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TOWN OF ITHACA
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
July 17, 2011, 10:00 a.m.
Public Works Facility
Board and Staff Present: Bill Goodman, Nahmin Horwitz, Rich DePaolo, Jim Weber, Herb
Engman, Bruce Bates, Creig Hebdon
Guests Present: Kathy Edmondson, Cathy Emilian, George McGonigal – residents of West
Haven Drive and Elm Street
1. Approval of Minutes:
There were some minor wording changes to the May minutes. Mr. DePaolo motioned to
accept. Mr. Goodman seconded. Approved.
2. Member Comments / Concerns:
Mr. Horwitz commented that he was concerned about the Sand Bank Road parking
situation and the State Parks policy for parking lot closure. Mr. Goodman added that the
Town Board can pass a resolution to request that the State Park open the lot. Mr. Horwitz
would like to talk to the appropriate Assemblyperson. Mr. Goodman also offered Tim
Joseph, Head of Parks in this region, as a contact.
Mr. Engman reported on two noise requests received. LaTourelle had an event with
amplified sound with no noise permit. They have been informed that a permit is needed in
the future for amplified sound. Also, a complaint about Six Mile Creek Vineyard setting off
a loud booming noise in the early morning hours was received. They do this to scare the
birds away, which is allowed under the Agriculture District Law.
Mr. DePaolo reported that Ithaca College has started up their ventilation/chilling system
which he is sure will produce complaints as it is very loud.
a. Consider modification to agenda:
Mr. DePaolo requested the status of Pine Tree Road. This will be discussed under
project updates.
3. West Haven Road Drainage –
Mr. Goodman has received emails from Kathy Edmondson and Cathy Emilian about
drainage issues causing erosion from West Haven Road to the Elm Street Extension
caused by development around their properties by Mark Mecenas. Information from the
Town Staff is needed in regard to rights and responsibilities regarding the situation. Mr.
Weber indicated that the situation arises out of a subdivision of property on Elm Street by
the landowner/developer. The original driveway plan was not followed by the owner, as
construction was completed to the standard requested by the Fire Department. A second
issue is that the current building permit for a single-family home has limits as to what we
can require, as outlined in Storm Water and State Law. We have responded to concerns
within our limits. Mr. Hebdon explained some Simple SWPPP rules around erosion
control which consists primarily of silt fencing, rock dams, and vegetation and said that the
State does not even require a Simple SWPPP for a single-family home. Mr. Hebdon
explained that NYS Law was changed in March, 2010 to require municipalities to look at
properties as a whole rather than in pieces. Mr. DePaolo asked about the status of
discussion with Mr. Mecenas. Mr. Hebdon explained that he has been doing inspections
of the property and has had discussion with Mr. Mecenas about mitigation ideas such as
downspouts and culvert pipe/bio-swale along the contour line to help water to soak in. A
rain garden is another idea after construction is completed. Mr. DePaolo asked about any
current mitigation to which Mr. Hebdon replied that there is a silt fence and mulch.
Diversion mitigation above his lot was not wanted by residents. Mr. Weber added that Mr.
Mecenas’s ideas need to be substantiated in order to avoid further loss of documentation.
Ms. Edmondson showed pictures of drainage damage. Ms. Emilian suggested the option
of approaching the issue from a legal “effluent” and environmental aspect. Mr. Goodman
informed the residents that they are within their rights to sue the land owner. Mr. DePaolo
suggested that Mr. Mecenas be present at our next meeting. Mr. Bates said that he
would check for any updated maps that have been filed.
4. Project Updates – Mr. Weber
Ridgecrest Road Water Tank – The tank was down for approximately four weeks. The
tank is back online now. The latest testing for VOCs met requirements. More testing will
be done next week.
Pine Tree Road – Update requested by Mr. DePaolo. Mr. Weber reported that the
County is still moving forward on this project. There have not been any additional
meetings or discussions relative to project changes.
118 Eastern Heights Drive – Mr. Weber provided a summary of costs for the project.
The Town Board approved up to $60,000.00 to complete the repairs. The Town’s cost
came to $48,377.00 less final licensing agreements. He will have the summary available
at the next Town Board meeting.
East Shore Drive Water Main – Work began this week. Phase I Remington Road PRV
needs to be done before the contractor can get in to start Phase II work at Route 13 & 34.
Snyder Hill Road – Service connections are being completed. The paving contractor
should be able to start within the next three weeks.
Hungerford Hill – Waiting on control components and contractor concrete quality issues.
Town Hall Roof – No contractors showed for the mandatory pre-bid meeting. Several
plans are out, so the bid opening and pre-bid were extended by a week. An update was
provided regarding the pre-bid meeting.
Town Hall Air Quality - Bids are due tomorrow. There have been at least three
consultant responses with more interested.
Warren Road Walkway – The last section of the concrete walk should be poured today.
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The ribbon cutting ceremony is July 20 at 5:00 pm in the DeWitt Middle School parking
lot.
5. Road Preservation
Mr. Weber provided a list of Town road conditions and said that we could evolve the
report to have a numerical rating system. Mr. Engman reported that a road cut law can be
established very easily, but a road preservation law is more difficult. Since the cost for
producing a law was approximately $16,000.00, he offered the suggestion of waiting until
the Town of Danby adopts their Preservation Law formatted by Delta Engineering and
then taking a closer look to see if theirs reflects our needs for legal authority to establish
road use laws. Another suggestion is to look at the County’s approach of looking into
requests for proposals to engineering firms to provide data of damage to roads as
evidence. He suggested working on a road preservation law and road use agreement
now and leaving the road condition data gathering open for review. He stated that, under
a road use agreement, developers pay for road repairs. Taxes will not be increased to
pay for damaged roads used by developers.
Next Meeting: August 16, 2011 at 10:00 a.m.
Motion to adjourn by Mr. Goodman at 11:42 a.m. Seconded by Mr. DePaolo. Carried.
Future Agenda Items:
Road Preservation – Delta Law analysis and approach
West Haven Road Drainage
Forest Home Wall / Sidewalk Work
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