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Final, Approved 2-15-11
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
January 25, 2011
Board and Staff Present: Bill Goodman, Nahmin Horwitz, Jim Weber, Mike Smith
Rich DePaolo arrived at 10:50
Ithaca Estates III – Larry Fabbroni gave an overview of the project. There have been
issues and discussions regarding the stormwater plans and changes have been made.
The current issue right now is to get Public Works approval of the infrastructure plan as
presented now. At issue is a missing easement from Mr. Monkmeyer to the Town for
maintenance of public utilities.
The location of the conceptual park land and infrastructure were reviewed and the
location of the missing easement was detailed.
Motion made and seconded to refer the matter to the Town Board with a
recommendation to approve the infrastructure as shown on the diagram, contingent on
the completion of an easement for the watermain. Passed unanimously.
Christopher Circle Water Tank – Paul Merrill from the neighborhood was present
The Committee had the petition from the Christopher Circle Neighborhood Group which
detailed concerns with staging of equipment and materials at the site and the
associated noise, traffic and danger due to the proximity of the school. Discussion
followed.
The water tank property is used for staging for emergency repairs and construction
projects. The most recent project is the Safe Walkways to School grant construction of
the Warren Road Walkway. The project has taken much longer than anticipated but
should be done this construction season. Discussion followed on the number of
emergencies and alternate possible sites.
Mr. Merrill was asked for his opinion. Mr. Merrill noted that he was expressing his
personal opinion, not necessarily the Neighborhood Group’s; he did not have an issue
emergency staging but felt that it was against Town Code in a number of ways to allow
construction staging to occur. Discussion followed. It was determined that the topic
would be researched by the Attorney for the Town and a report and discussion held at
the next Town Board meeting.
Discussion continued with Mr. Weber noting that there are no projects in the 10 year
span detailed in the Capital Projects Plan except the refurbishing of the water tank itself
and the unknown affiliated projects that may deal with the North East drainage issues.
Staging for those could be discussed and determined during the project planning. Mr.
DePaolo wanted to add a discussion on hours of operation also.
Final, Approved 2-15-11
Forest Home Wall
John Miller and Doug and Bruce Britain were present
There was a lengthy discussion about the wall and refurbishing of an area of road in
Forest Home. The wall is very close to the edge of the road and it is not there to
support the road, but to support the lawn of the property. There are a lot of legal
questions surrounding the wall and its ownership and whether the Town has the right to
do anything to or with it. In Mr. Weber’s opinion, neither the road nor the wall need work
done to them in the foreseeable future. Detailed history and locations were given and
what refurbishing would entail was discussed. There is nothing in any board resolutions
etc that commit the Town to doing anything at this point and the outstanding legal
questions need to be answered before any decisions or actions can be forwarded to the
Town Board for direction.
Mr. Brittain thought the impetus seems to be piggybacking with the County when they
close the road for the bridge and it has been perpetually put off
Walkway – Mr. Weber stated that it would be very costly to do anything except
temporary repairs. He was concerned about legality issues because the walkway does
not meet ADA standards etc. If the walkway is identified as Town owned, there are
many requirements that must be met. Mr. Horwitz asked for ballpark numbers and Mr.
Weber responded approximately $20K for reconstructing and $1-2K for the visual
concerns but that is without staff time for work or easements etc. Discussion followed
regarding what level of repair or construction would be needed to make it safe.
Discussion then came to liability and ADA requirements.
Discussion turned to who uses the trail and why do we want to maintain it. Give it to
Cornell. Discussion followed on the long-term plan.
Mr. Brittain gave a history of the area and the streets and how it came to the Town. He
thought the problems are in the right-of-way and mostly just fixing the railings and the
rope not extending to the top. There were four things identified; the rope not extending
to the top, the gravel being filled in, a broken handrail at the top and bottom. Mr. Weber
responded that they are looking into that, but there are liability issues.
Mr. DePaolo asked if we have to close the trail, we are acknowledging the trail is
dangerous and should it be closed while repairs happen. Discussion followed. Mr.
Weber was concerned about the larger question. Mr. Bruce Brittain stated that he
thinks it is safe as is and shouldn’t be closed.
In summary, Mr. Goodman said it sounds like some work is being done but a larger
discussion needs to happen regarding the larger, long-term questions. It was decided
that it would be reported at the Board study session and then discussed further at the
Public Works Committee again. Mr. Brittain also offered that FH residents could form
work groups to help with the work.
Final, Approved 2-15-11
Other issues:
Mr. Weber highlighted other projects that have been closed out.
Mr. Miller added that a survey will go out to FH residents re the traffic calming efforts
and he asked for traffic counts/studies the town will have. Mr. Weber did not guarantee
that he would be able to.
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The next meeting was moved to the 3 Tuesday, February 15 and Mr. Goodman
would like to make that rotation permanent.
Minutes –
Mr. DePaolo moved, and Mr. Horwitz seconded acceptance of the minutes and they
were approved with minor changes.