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REGULAR MEETING
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
-. TUESDAY; AUGUST 4,2009-
215 NORTH TIOGA STREET
ITHACA, NEW YORK
Board Members Present: Fred Wilcox, Acting Chairperson; Kevin Talty, Hollis Erb,
George Conneman, Jon Bosak, Susan Riha, and Ellen Baer, Alternate.
Excused: Rod Howe
Staff Present: Jonathan Kanter, "Director of Planning; Bruce Bates, Director of Code
Enforcement; Susan Ritter, Asst. Director of Planning; Susan Brock, Attorney for the
Town; Paulette Terwilliger, Deputy Town Clerk, Darby Kiley, Environmental Planner
Call to Order
Chairperson Wilcox declared the meeting duly opened at 7:02 p.m., and accepted for
the record the Secretary's Affidavit of Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public
Hearings in Town Hall and the Ithaca Journal on July 27, 2009 and July 29, 2009,
together with the properties under discussion, as appropriate, upon the Clerks of the
City of Ithaca and the Town of Danby, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of
Planning, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Public Works, and upon the
applicants and/or agents, as appropriate, on July 29, 2009.
• Persons to be heard
Joel Harlan, Newfield
Mr. Harlan spoke in support of the Carrowmoor Project.
SEQR Determination and Public Hearing: Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site
Plan Approval and Special Permit for modifications to the proposed Cornell University
Water System Improvements project, Hungerford Hill Road, Caldwell Road, Ellis Hollow
Road, Palm Road, and Dryden Road. The proposed modification involves an
adjustment in the alignment of the section of pipe being installed under and adjacent to
Cascadilla Creek, shifting the location on the north side of the creek in an easterly
direction closer to the Cornell library annex building. The project modifications will take
place within the Town of Ithaca Low Density Residential Zone and Planned
Development Zone No. 9. Cornell, University, Owner /Applicant; Chris Bordlemay,
Agent.
Chris Bordlemay, Project Manager, addressed the Board, stating that the overall project
was presented and approved in .December 2008 and the modification is due to technical
issues that are causing challenges with boring through Cascadilla Creek. He described
the original bore -path and explained that the contractors bidding on the job brought
concerns to them and they would now like to bore under the bike path approximately
385'. The bike path would not have any equipment on it and very, very little foot traffic
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from the construction crew. The benefit of this change is they will be further away from
the UNA than before. He then took questions from the Board.
Board Member Erb asked about the fence to keep construction workers out of the UNA
as human nature is to take the shortest route possible. Mr. Bordlemay assured the
Board that there would be a chainlink fence with a gate to allow directed access to the
work site.
Board Member Erb was also concerned about the protection of the 18" walnut tree and
Mr. Bordlemay noted the fence around the tree on the map. She also asked about the
"width of the construction swath" and the use of the word "or" in describing the width.
Mr. Bordlemay stated that they would not need more than 40 feet to get there.
Board Member Talty asked what, specifically, were the technical difficulties, reminding
Mr. Bordlemay that the engineers stated in the .beginning that they do this all the time
and there would be no problem. Board Member Erb agreed, asking if it was financial.
Mr. Bordlemay stated that it was not, and the differing heights would make it difficult and
they were concerned about leakage also known as "frackage ". The initiative was the
technical issues and then there were some cost savings after the change was decided
on.
The Board moved the resolution with minor changes being approved.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO 2009 — 071 SEAR
Site Plan Aaaroval & Special Permit, Cornell University Water System
Project Modification Tax Parcel Nos. 64.-1 -1, 64.-1 -2, 62. -2 -2, & 62. -2 -3
Town of Ithaca Planning Board, August 4. 2009
MOTION made by Kevin Talty, seconded by George Conneman.
WHEREAS:
This action is consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval and
Special Permit for modifications to the proposed Cornell University Water System
Improvements project. The proposed modification involves an adjustment in the
alignment of the section of pipe being installed under and adjacent to Cascadilla
Creek, shifting the location on the north side of the creek in an easterly direction
closer to the Cornell library annex building. The project modifications will take
place within the Town of Ithaca Low Density Residential Zone and Planned
Development Zone No. 9. Cornell University, Owner /Applicant; Chris Bordlemay,
Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is acting
as Lead Agency in this uncoordinated environmental review, with respect to Site
Plan Approval and Special Permit, and
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3. The Planning Board, on August 4, 2009, has reviewed and accepted as
adequate a Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I, submitted by the
applicant; and- Part II prepared by Town- Planning staff, drawings prepared by
Stearns & Wheler Environmental Engineers & Scientists titled "Water
Transmission and Distribution System Plan & Profile Sta. 00 +00 -CO — 12+61 -
CO" (Sheet G- 05 -CO) with a current revision date of 7/6/09 and "Unique Natural
Area 128 Cascadilla Creek Crossing" (Sheet UNA -01) with a current revision
date of 7/1/09, and other application material and
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative determination of
environmental significance with respect to the proposed Site Plan Approval and
Special Permit;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination
of environmental significance in accordance with Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law and 6 NYCRR Part 617 New York State Environmental Quality
Review for the above referenced actions as proposed, based on the information in the
EAF Part I and for the reasons set forth in the EAF Part II, and, therefore, a Draft
Environmental Impact Statement will not be required.
A vote on the motion was as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Conneman, Bosak, Baer, Riha, Talty and Erb
Nays: None
Absent: Howe -
The resolution passed unanimously.
Chairman Wilcox opened the Public Hearing at 7:26 p.m.
A young Gentleman asked what a "bore pit' is? Mr. Bordlemay gave an excellent
explanation, describing and demonstrating what boring is and the bore pit would be the
starting point where the machine will sit.
Mr. Harlan spoke saying that it would be good for the City and the Town for water.
Chairman Wilcox closed the public hearing at 7:30p.m.
Chairman Wilcox reminded everyone that the plant would be providing backup to the
Town and the City which was discussed at the original presentation and approval. This
is a modification that will not affect those connections.
The Board moved the resolution. The Board decided not to put an additional condition
on the resolution regarding the "swath ", but rely on the assurances of Mr. Bordlemay
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and his statements on the record. The Board did add a condition regarding the chain -
link fence.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO PB 2009 - 072
Preliminary & Final Site Plan Approval & Special Permit, Cornell University Water
System Project — Modification Tax Parcel No. 64. -1 -1, 64.1-2, 62. -2 -2, and 62. -2 -3
Town of Ithaca Planning Board, August 4, 2009
Motion made by Susan Riha, seconded by Hollis Erb.
WHEREAS:
This action is consideration of Preliminary and Final Site .Plan Approval and
Special Permit for modifications to the proposed Cornell University Water System
Improvements project. The proposed modification involves an adjustment in the
alignment of the section of pipe being installed under and adjacent to Cascadilla
Creek, shifting the location on the north side of the creek in an easterly direction
closer to the Cornell library annex building. The project modifications will take
place within the Town of Ithaca Low Density Residential Zone and Planned
Development Zone No. 9. Cornell University, Owner /Applicant; Chris Bordlemay,
Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as
Lead Agency in the environmental review with respect to Site Plan Approval and
Special Permit has, on August 4, 2009, made a negative determination of
environmental significance, after having reviewed and accepted as adequate a
Full Environmental Assessment Form Part I, submitted by the applicant, and a
Part II prepared by Town Planning staff, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on August 4, 2009, has reviewed
and accepted as adequate drawings prepared by Stearns & Wheler
Environmental Engineers & Scientists titled "Water Transmission and Distribution
System Plan & Profile Sta. 00 +00 -CO — 12 +61 -CO" (Sheet G- 05 -CO) with a
current revision date of 7/6/09 and "Unique Natural Area 128 Cascadilla Creek
Crossing" (Sheet UNA -01) with a current revision date of 7/1/09, and other
application material,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:.
That the Planning Board hereby grants Special Permit for the modification of the Cornell
University Water Systems Improvement Project as described above, finding that the
standards of Article XXIV, Section 270 -200, Subsections A — L, of the Town of Ithaca
Code, have been met;
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AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
1 -. That the Town of Ithaca Planning- Board hereby-waives certain requirements for
Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval, as shown on the Preliminary and Final
Site Plan Checklists, having determined from the materials presented that such
waiver will result in neither a significant alteration of the purpose of site plan
control nor the policies enunciated or implied by the Town Board, and
2. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final Site
Plan Approval for modification of the Cornell University Water System
Improvement Project involving an adjustment in the alignment of the section of
pipe being installed under and adjacent to Cascadilla Creek as shown in the
drawings prepared by Stearns & Wheler Environmental Engineers & Scientists,
titled "Water Transmission and Distribution System Plan & Profile Sta. 00 +00 -CO
— 12 +61 -CO" (Sheet G- 05 -CO) with a current revision date of 7/6/09 and "Unique
Natural Area 128 Cascadilla Creek Crossing" (Sheet UNA -01) with a current
revision date of 7/1/09 and described in additional submitted materials subject to
the following conditions:
a. submission of a copy of the US Army Corps of Engineers' approval /confirmation
of the Nationwide Permit #33 for the temporary dewatering of the unnamed creek
adjacent to Cascadilla Creek, and
b. all other conditions of the original approval, as listed on "PB Resolution No. 2008-
112 ", shall remain in effect.
c.. submission of revised plans showing gate on chain link fence bordering the north
edge of the Recreation Way.
A vote on the motion was as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Conneman, Bosak, Baer, Riha, Talty and Erb
Nays: None
Absent: Howe
The motion passed unanimously.
SEOR Determination and PUBLIC HEARING: McArdle Property Timber Harvest
Plan, Orchard Hill Road. Consideration of a forest - management plan for the proposed
timber harvest on the lands of Edward J. McArdle Trust, located off of Orchard Hill
Road, Tax Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.2, Conservation Zone, and Tax Parcel Number 22. -2-
2.9, Low Density Residential Zone. The proposal involves the harvest of approximately
300 trees with >14" DBH on 30 acres in "Stand 1," and includes temporary, portable
bridge(s) over stream crossing(s). Edward J. McArdle Trust, Owner; .Wagner
Hardwoods, LLC, Applicant; and James Wilkins III, CF, Agent.
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Jim Wilkins addressed the Board and gave a brief overview of the project. He gave his
credentials and stated that the property would remain a forest after the project. It will
have no adverse effect on water quality or the view: He went on to state that they would
and do work with highway superintendents in regards to the road; stating that the
logging trucks and equipment are no heavier than a snowplow in the winter.
Mr. Wilkins thought it would be easier to answer questions than review the whole
submission.
Board Member Riha was concerned that Wagner Hardwoods was representing both
sides; the owner and the company were the only two involved. In her experience, there
would or should be some independent agent overseeing that the right trees and sizes
are being cut. Mr. Wilkins stated that New York State does not have a regulation
regarding that and that Mr. McArdle interviewed 2 companies and vetted them.
Discussion followed and the Board was very concerned about the lack of independent
oversight. This was the first plan under the new law to come before the Board, and the
Town Board did not make a provision for this oversight. The Board went back and forth
asking about how and when and who could or should provide the oversight. Mr. Wilkins
said that other municipalities sometimes have the Code Enforcement Office do some
oversight. The Board asked questions about the marking of trees and stump removal
and Mr. Wilkins described the process.
Board Member Bosak was concerned about setting precedent and he was surprised
that the Town Board did not set guidelines for this. Susan Brock stated that the Board
could condition their approval on independent confirmation of the plan being carried out
as stated. The Board then discussed how that could be accomplished. Bruce Bates
stated that his department did not have the manpower to do this and Darby. Kiley and
Susan Ritter thought they could and they noted that the Engineering Department would
be doing Soil and Erosion visits.
Board Member Bosak stated that he went to the site and he is concerned because the
Board has not seen the land where the trees are to be removed. Darby Kiley stated that
she and Susan Ritter had toured the site. He was bringing it up as informational, not
necessary. Board Member Baer stated she was familiar with the property and Susan
Brock stated that the applicant gives permission for the Board to access the property
when they sign the application. Board Member Erb felt satisfied with Staff's
observations. Board Member Riha asked about the slope of the land and Darby Kiley
thought that it was a gentle slope with intermittent gorges with steep slopes. Board
Member Riha thought topographical maps would be helpful in the future.
Board Member Erb asked about the staging area and the DEC recommendation that
staging areas should be a minimum of 200 feet from streams. She pointed out the they
were much closer to some intermittent streams. Mr. Wilkins stated that you could not
get around being close to intermittent streams and Board Member Erb stated that the
DEC says "any" , they did not delineate between intermittent and not. Discussion
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followed about the definition of intermittent and what would be done to protect/minimize
adverse affects to the intermittent streams.
Board Member Erb then asked about the time line of the work and the number of truck
trips with 20 truckloads being stated as the norm. Mr. Wilkins stated they were looking
at 15 days of work. There would be a pickup truck daily and a lowboy to deliver
equipment at the start and remove it at the end with 2 loads of logs leaving the site a
day, dependent on weather. She then asked about bridges and Mr. Wilkins stated that
there would only be the one bridge over the permanent stream and they would not be
working when the intermittent streams were running.
Board Member Erb then asked about the invasive .species and how they would be
handled, quoting concerns from the Conservation Board. Mr. Wilkins said the most
important advantage 'of doing this timber harvest is the ability to add erosion to put in
structures to stop the erosion that is carrying the invasive species seeds downhill. The
'mechanical removal" is hand pulling and possibly some brushhogging that will help stop
the seeds from moving downhill.
Board Member Erb asked what the timeframe for the next harvest would be and was
told 10 years for hardwood. Mr. Wilkins also stated that there is a new market for bio
mass for use for energy so he could not state 10 years unequivocally, but it would be 10
years for hardwood. The pole wood could be thinned out before 10 years.
Board Member Bosak asked about the Conservation Board's comment about-how they
are going to manage the invasive species and he did not want a lot of chemicals used
as the DEC recommends. Board Member Riha argued that chemical control can be
less harmful than mechanical because of.the damage by heavy equipment.
Chairman Wilcox asked Mr. Wilkins to describe the health of the lot now and after the
project. Mr. Wilkins said it is an old farm lot that is in the early stages of succession
moving into'the middle stage with many maple saplings that will not be touched. They
are looking to make the next stand a healthy stand of maples with the ash in question
because of the expected blight from an insect that is predicted to decimate the ash.
Sugar Maple and Hemlock will remain and move into old growth. He estimated that the
pole wood area was harvested around 40 years ago and the wooded area probably 60-
80 years ago.
The Board was in favor of sustainable use, but because of the property being in a
Conservation Zone, and near and/or part of a Unique Natural Area, it deserves an even
closer look. But again, the Board's major concern was who was going to oversee the
project and make sure it is done according to the Plan.
Chairman Wilcox asked the public to speak at this point because he felt their concerns
would be primarily SEOR focused.
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Judy Burns who lives on the lake side of the property asked what road would be used
for going in and out and she also wondered if she could look at the proposal. She was
worried about the- Black Diamond Trail- being used: Chairman- Wilcox- answered that the
State has authority over the Trail and the Town could not give them permission even if
they wanted to. He also assured .her the proposal was public record and Board Member
Erb gave her her copy. She went on to say that she was concerned about the
development of the land for residential use as it had been tried in the past and she was
concerned this was a stepping stone for development. Chairman Wilcox stated that this
did no preclude that and Susan Brock stated that they could and should ask the Agent
that since that would bring in the concept of segmentation. Chairman Wilcox noted that
the property crossed two zones, Conservation and Low Density Residential.
Susan Titas also addressed the Board. She was adamantly against the project and
wanted the Board to protect the trees which she felt needed the Town's protection and
should be everyone's project. She wanted to know if the company was environmentally
friendly and the invasive vines, insects and now gas drilling are killing our trees. She
gave statistics on gas drilling and the associated tree devastation. She asked if the
harvest would happen in the winter to protect the birds and the wildlife and help with
erosion. She repeated that our trees need our protection and she hoped the people
involved would change their minds. She handed out a copy of a recent article showing
the clear cutting for the gas drilling.
Board Member Erb asked her if she was aware of the actual number of trees to be
taken and their size. She wasn't, and Board Member Erb told her the counts and asked
if she believed in sustainable forestry harvesting. Ms. Titas responded that she did not
like the idea.
Chairman Wilcox brought the Board back. to the environmental review and Board
Member Erb asked Mr. Wilkins to address winter harvesting. He responded that if it
froze in the winter it is fine but sometimes the runoff is worse in the winter. He stated
that this summer would have been bad. He went on to say that they were looking at an
18- month window to hit a time when erosion will be minimized. Board Member Talty
asked what the optimal month would be and he responded that in a perfect world,
January- February frozen because the road would also be frozen; otherwise, they are
looking at July- August. Spring is bad because of bark slippage which occurs in the
tree's growth cycle.
Board Member Riha asked if he was aware of any other plans for the development of
this property and he responded that they had not communicated anything like that to
him. Board Member Erb asked if he was in line to do further work if this went well and
Mr. Wilkins said he was.
Chairman Wilcox noted that reasonable people could disagree whether you protect
trees by not cutting them, or by having a forest management plan. Some discussion
followed about "old growth" and management practices. Mr. Wilkins added that some of
the trees in the McArdle forest are 120 years old and some of those will be cut and
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some will be left. Some of the older trees are right near the permanent stream and will
not be cut.
Board Member Erb pointed out the buffer zone and Susan Brock asked Mr. Wilkins for
clarification of what they meant by "buffer zone." Mr. Wilkins stated it meant no cutting
and no equipment and they would be staying out of the buffer zone completely. He
added that the buffer zone was 80 feet wide.
Chairman Wilcox asked Susan Ritter to talk about the County and the Town's
discussion regarding buffer zones. Ms. Ritter gave a brief overview and stated that the
Town did not entirely agree with some of the recommendations of the County on the
basis of practicality. The Town felt a 50 foot buffer on some of the intermittent streams
was more than they should ask property owners to give. There were differences of
opinions on references used also. Board Member Erb asked about the largest stream
on the property, Indian Creek, and that runs along the property line and would have a
100 foot buffer meaning that 50 feet would be a no- disturbance area and 50 feet would
be a no- impervious surfaces would be allowed. That is what is in the proposed Stream
Setback Law.
Board Member Bosak wanted to make it clear that he was going to support this based
on his belief that the plans submitted will actually improve the health of this piece of
land.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION PB RESOLUTION NO 2009 073 SEOR
Forest Management Plan Approval Edward J. MCArdie Trust Timber Harvest
Tax Parcel Numbers 22. -2 -2.2 & 22. -2 -2.9 North and East of Orchard Hill Road
Town of Ithaca Planning Board August 4. 2009
Motion made by Hollis Erb and seconded by Kevin Talty.
WHEREAS:
This action involves consideration of Forest Management Plan Approval for the
proposed timber harvest on the lands of Edward J. McArdle Trust, located to the
north and east of Orchard Hill Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel Number 22. -2-
2.2, Conservation Zone, and Tax Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.9, Low Density
Residential Zone. The project involves the harvest of approximately 300 trees
with >14" diameter at breast height on approximately 30 acres in "Stand 1," and
includes temporary, portable bridge(s) over stream crossing(s). Edward J.
McArdle Trust, Owner; Wagner Hardwoods, LLC, Applicant; and James Wilkins
III, CF, Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is acting
in an uncoordinated environmental review with respect to Forest Management
Plan Approval, and
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3. The Planning Board, on August 4, 2009, has reviewed and accepted as
adequate a Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I, submitted by the
applican a proposal -- and-
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addendum, dated June 18, 2009, a Forest Stewardship Plan, dated June 18,
2009, an aerial photo of the site, and other application materials, and
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative determination of
environmental significance with respect to the proposed Forest Management
Plan Approval,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination of
environmental significance in accordance with Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law and 6 NYCRR Part 617 New York State Environmental Quality
Review for the above referenced actions as proposed, based on the information in the
EAF Part I and for the reasons set forth in the EAF Part II, and, therefore, a Draft
Environmental Impact Statement will not be required.
A vote on the motion was as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Conneman, Bosak, Baer, Riha, Talty and Erb
Nays: None
Absent: Howe
The resolution passed unanimously.
Chairman Wilcox opened the public hearing at 8:17p.m. and asked if the Board had any
other questions or concerns.
Board Member Riha had an issue with using the word "approximately". She was
concerned that was too vague and would allow too much to be taken.
Chairman Wilcox summarized by saying that "...the question for each of us to decide
right now, subject to independent verification is; Do we think this is a ruse to go in and
clear cut? Or do we think that, based upon the application materials presented and the
applicant himself and the agent for the applicant, do we believe that they truly want to
protect the land? And whether it's 290, or 300 or 320, they are going to do the right
thing or, as you said, are they going to ask for 300 get 300, and go suddenly cut 450."
Discussion followed. The Board decided to add plus or minus 10% to the resolution.
Mr. Wilkins thought that was fine.
Chairman Wilcox asked Mr. Bates if the Code Enforcement Office would be willing to
provide the independent verification that the Planning Board wants. Mr. Bates asked
how the Board thought that would be done; counting tagged trees before and then cut
trees as they go? The Board liked that idea, and Mr. Bates responded that that is a lot
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of time and his department does not have the manpower. He also asked what the
penalty was and how it would be enforced. Discussion followed.
Board Member Riha noted that there would be a SWPPP involved and somebody would
be checking that out. Mr. Kanter stated that that would be different from counting trees.
Board Member Riha stated she was more concerned about the erosion and
sedimentation plan than the number of trees, which she felt was more of an owner
issue. Board Member Erb was concerned about the buffer zone and wanted notice of
the start date for Staff to inspect. Chairman Wilcox cautioned how much they thought
Staff was going to and/or able to monitor. Board Member Talty noted that this
Conservation Zone requirement and having monitoring could be costly and he
wondered who would be paying for this. The taxpayers? The landowner? He did not
feel it was fair to the owner. Discussion followed. Mr. Wilkins noted that most
municipalities only require that a forester is .involved to protect the land. Susan Brock
asked if he was a certified forester and what the certifying body was. He responded
that it was the Society of American Foresters (SAF) and there were ethical standards.
Susan Brock asked if there was a mechanism for reporting using a hypothetical
scenario in which a cut was not done to specifications and Mr. Wilkins answered that he
was not sure of the ramifications. He stated that SAF was the usual sanctioning body
and there were ramifications, he just wasn't sure what they were. Discussion followed.
The Board brought their attention back to the monitoring of the SWPPP and the buffer
zone. It was felt that the monitoring of the SWPPP would include some of that type of
monitoring. Bruce Bates suggested that the Board suggest the Town Board add a
requirement and details to provide for the monitoring. Susan Ritter stated that it was not
going to be hard to monitor the buffer and the streams. She felt anyone could check the
streams at the Black Diamond Trail and the more important check would be the
reclamation, process. She felt 30 acres was not a large area. Board Member Talty
asked the applicant what the normal notice was and Mr. Wilkins replied 2 weeks. Board
Member Talty wanted that put in the resolution. Jonathan Kanter stated that the
Planning Department could monitor the delineated buffer areas and any areas the
Board decided needed protection. He added that they could not'do the monitoring of
what was and was not cut. He suggested that the certified forester submit a signed and
certified report that it met the plan. The Board liked that plan of action.
Board Member Bosak brought the Board's attention back to the road and stated that it
was not a large road and his concern for the maintenance of it. Darby Kiley had
addressed that issue and there is a proposed condition for a performance bond to be
added to the resolution.
Chairman Wilcox invited the public to, address the Board.
Ms. Titas asked about the size of the logs, feeling that 14" is too small.
Ms. Burns noted that there is a College of Environmental Science and Forestry in
Syracuse for questions the Board may have.
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Chairman Wilcox asked Mr. Wilkins about the diameter and he responded that there is a
market for bio fuel. Fourteen inches is the cutoff for timber trees versus chip trees. It is
- the industry standard.- He- added that very few-trees between 14 "and 18" will be taken in
this lot. The goal is to save most of those and only those in danger, such as the ash
and those which needed to be thinned to allow other trees better growth would be cut.
It is not cost effective to cut them now.
Chairman Wilcox closed the public hearing at 9:12p.m. Board Member Erb thought the
setbacks on the intermittent streams still needed to be addressed. Mr. Wilkins said they
would not be crossing streams except for the bridge and the intermittent up top would
be crossed but only when there was no water and only in one spot. Board Member
Bosak asked about the County's recommendations and the Board discussed them.
The Board drafted a condition to add to the resolution.
The Board then asked about the road and truck traffic and Mr. Wilkins explained the
process and the trips.
Motion was made and seconded with conditions added and approved by the motioners.
Board Member Talty thanked the Mr. Wilkins for being such a cooperative and patient
applicant. He noted that this was the first Plan they had to approve and the Board was
muddling through and he thanked him for his professionalism.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION PB RESOLUTION NO 2009 - 074
Forest Management Plan Approval Edward J. McArdle Trust Timber Harvest
Tax Parcel Numbers 22. -2 -2.2 & 22. -2 -2.9 North and East of Orchard Hill Road
Town of Ithaca Planning Board August 4. 2009
Motion made by Kevin Talty, seconded by George Conneman.
WHEREAS:
1. This action involves consideration of Forest Management Plan Approval for the
proposed timber harvest on the lands of Edward J. McArdle Trust, located to the
north and east of Orchard Hill Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.2,
Conservation Zone, and Tax Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.9, Low Density Residential
Zone. The project involves the harvest of approximately 300 trees with >14"
diameter at breast height on approximately 30 acres in "Stand 1," and includes
temporary, portable bridge(s) over stream crossing(s). Edward J. McArdle Trust,
Owner; Wagner Hardwoods, LLC, Applicant; and James Wilkins III, CF, Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is acting
in an uncoordinated environmental review with respect to the project and has, on
August 4, 2009, made a negative determination of environmental significance, after
having reviewed and accepted as adequate a Short Environmental Assessment
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Form Part I, submitted by the applicant, and a Part II prepared by Town Planning
staff, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on August 4, 2009, has reviewed
and accepted as adequate application materials, a proposal and addendum, dated
June 18, 2009, a Forest Stewardship Plan, dated June 18, 2009, an aerial photo
showing project components, and other application materials,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby grants Forest Management Plan
Approval for the proposed timber harvest on the lands of Edward J. McArdle
Trust, located to the north and east of Orchard Hill Road, Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.2, Conservation Zone, and Tax Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.9,
Low Density Residential Zone, as described in the proposal and addendum,
dated June 18, 2009, a Forest Stewardship Plan, dated June 18, 2009, an aerial
photo showing project components subject to the following conditions:
a. submission of a Simple Sediment and Erosion Control Plan, which shall
include, among other things, details of how the buffer areas will be delineated
and marked, and include a requirement for 14 -days prior notification to Town
Engineering Staff before timber harvesting activities or disturbance to the site
begins, for review and approval by Town Engineering staff, and
b. submission of details indicating the size and configuration of the portable
bridge, and
c. harvesting of timber and other disturbance shall not occur in, and equipment
shall not enter, the areas shown as buffers on the aerial photo submitted, and
d. the number of trees harvested shall not exceed 330, and
e. to the extent practicable, minimize damage to stream beds and stream banks
from harvesting operations, and
f. Submission of a performance bond, in a form and amount to be specified by
the town of Ithaca Director of Public Works or his /her designee, to resurface
and/or repair Orchard Hill Road in the event that the road is damaged by
trucks hauling timber or equipment, or by equipment, during the course of the
timber harvest operation, and
g. Within 60 -days after timber harvesting activities are completed, the
applicant's certified forester shall submit a signed report to the Director of
Planning stating whether the approved Forest Management Plan was
followed in its entirety, and if not; details of any deviations to the Plan.
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A vote on the motion was as follows:
AYES : - -- Wilcox, Conneman; Bosak, Baer, Riha, Talty and Erb
Nays: None
Absent: Howe
The resolution passed unanimously.
The Board discussed and made a motion to send a resolution to the Town Board.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION PB RESOLUTION NO. 2009 — 075
Recommendation to the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca regarding the
Conservation Zone Law Planning Board, July 4. 2009
MOTION made by Jon Bosak, seconded by Hollis Erb.
RESOLVED that this Board recommends that the Town Board amend the Conservation
Zone Law to provide for independent verification of compliance with Forest
Management Plans as approved by the Planning Board.
A vote on the motion was as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Conneman, Bosak, Baer, Riha, Talty and Erb
Nays: None
Absent: Howe
The resolution passed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of a Recommendation to the Town of Ithaca Town
Board for the proposed local law regarding fences and walls.
Chris Balestra noted that the passage in bold in her memo was the actual fence
provision in the current Town Code. Very vague. Discussion followed.
Board Member Bosak was not happy with the limitations on placement and height,
specifically, why are people prohibited from gardening in the front yard? Board Member
Talty felt strongly that that was needed. Some gardens are monstrosities and very
offensive. Board Member Bosak disagreed, thinking that people should be encouraged
to turn useless lawns into gardens. He suggested a compromise of taking the
restriction out of low density residential. Board Member Talty strongly disagreed saying.
Susan Brock stated that they were not prohibited, but needed a special permit from the
Zoning Board of Appeals.
He then asked about needing a permit for a fence over 6 feet. Bruce Bates responded
that it is a State Code. He also asked if gardening was a lawful farm operation. Susan
Brock read the definition from the Code. The key was "3 acres in size" not monetary.
Board Member Talty asked about maintenance and what happens if a garden becomes
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overgrown. Bruce Bates responded that the Department would need to receive a
complaint and then determine it was not a garden and then the State sets the limit at
10" in height: --- ----
Board Member Bosak asked about the underground provision and the Board made a
minor change to the wording. The idea was to cover the invisible fences.
Board Member Bosak thought that electric fences should be allowed and at the least,
delineate zones. Discussion followed.
Chairman Wilcox opened the public hearing at 9:51 p.m. There was no one present and
he closed the public hearing at 9:52p.m.
The Board made one recommended change to the law.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO 2009 — 076 Recommendation to
the Town Board Regarding a Proposed Local Law Amending Fence and Wall
Requirements and Adding Related Definitions in Chapter 270 (Zoning) of the
Town of Ithaca Code Town of Ithaca Planning Board August 4, 2009
MOTION made by Susan Riha, seconded by George Conneman.
WHEREAS: The Town of Ithaca Codes and Ordinances Committee has drafted a
proposed local law amending the Fence and Wall Requirements and Adding Related
Definitions in Chapter 270 (Zoning) of the Town of Ithaca Code, for the Town Board's
consideration, and
WHEREAS: The purpose of this local law is to clarify and expand the elements of the
fence and wall provisions, due to interpretation problems that the current provisions
pose for Code Enforcement staff and the Zoning Board of Appeals; and
WHEREAS: Among other revisions, the proposed amendments would include
definitions, height, and location requirements for fences, deer fences, retaining walls,
and other walls; and
WHEREAS: The Town Board has referred the proposed local law to the Planning
Board, Zoning Board of Appeals, and Conservation Board for review and
recommendations; and
WHEREAS: The Town of Ithaca Planning Board held a public hearing on this matter
and has reviewed and discussed this proposed local law at its meeting on August 4,
2009,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED: That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board
hereby recommends that the Town Board adopt the proposed local law amending the
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Fence and Wall Requirements and Adding Related Definitions in Chapter 270 (Zoning)
of the Town of Ithaca Code with the following recommended revision:
Page 3, Paragraph 9b should read: "Electrification may be used for fences installed
wholly underground that are designed to keep pets in yards. (replace "constructed or
erected" with "installed ")
A vote on the motion was as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Conneman, Baer, Riha, Talty and Erb
Nays: Bosak
Absent: Howe
The resolution passed.
Approval of Minutes: July 7, 2009 and July 21, 2009
ADOPTED RESOLUTION PB RESOLUTION NO. 2009 — 077 Adopt Planning-
Board Minutes Minutes of July 7. 2009 Planning Board, August 4. 2009
Motion made by Hollis Erb, seconded by Susan Riha
WHEREAS, the Town of Ithaca Planning Board has reviewed the draft minutes
from the meeting on July 7, 2009,
Now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED, that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board approves the minutes, with
corrections, to be the final minutes of the meetings on July 7, 2009.
A vote on the motion was as follows:
AYES: Conneman, Talty, Erb, Riha and Baer
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Wilcox, and Bosak
ABSENT: Howe.
The motion declared to be carried.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION PB RESOLUTION NO. 2009-078 Adopt Planning
Board Minutes Minutes of July 21, 2009 Planning Board, August 4, 2009
Motion made by Fred Wilcox, seconded by Kevin Talty
WHEREAS, the Town of Ithaca Planning Board has reviewed the draft minutes
from the meeting on July 21, 2009,
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Now, therefore, be it
- RESOLVED, that the Town of Ithaca Planning- Board approves the minutes, with
corrections, to be the final minutes of the meetings on July 21, 2009.
A vote on the motion was as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Talty, Baer, Riha
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Conneman, Bosak, Erb
ABSENT: Howe
The motion declared to be carried.
Other Business:
Board Members Wilcox and Bosak will be absent the next meeting.
Board Member Bosak would like a discussion regarding minutes at meeting.
Employee picnic Friday.
Next agenda was reviewed.
Adiournment.
Meeting was adjourned. at 9:57 p.m.
Res p u itted
Paulette Terwilliger, Deputy Town Clerk
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
215 North Tioga Street
Ithaca, New York 14850
Tuesday, August 4, 2009
AGENDA
7:00 P.M. Persons to be heard (no more than five minutes).
7:05 P.M. SEQR Determination: Cornell University Water System Improvements Project -
Modifications, Hungerford Hill Road, Caldwell Road, Ellis Hollow Road, Palm Road, and
Dryden Road.
7:05 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval and
Special Permit for modifications to the proposed Cornell University Water System
Improvements project. The proposed modification involves an adjustment in the alignment
of the section of pipe being installed under and adjacent to Cascadilla Creek, shifting the
location on the north side of the creek in an easterly direction closer to the Cornell library
annex building. The project modifications will take place within the Town of Ithaca Low
Density Residential Zone and Planned Development Zone No. 9. Cornell University,
Owner /Applicant; Chris Bordlemay, Agent.
7:15 P.M. SEQR Determination: McArdle Property Timber Harvest Plan, Orchard Hill Road.
7:15 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of a forest management plan for the proposed timber
harvest on the lands of Edward J. McArdle Trust, located off of Orchard Hill Road, Tax
Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.2, Conservation Zone, and Tax Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.9, Low
Density Residential Zone. The proposal involves the harvest of approximately 300 trees
with >14" DBH on 30 acres in "Stand 1," and includes temporary, portable bridge(s) over
stream crossing(s). Edward J. McArdle Trust, Owner; Wagner Hardwoods, LLC, Applicant;
and James Wilkins III, CF, Agent.
7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of a Recommendation to the Town of Ithaca Town
Board for the proposed local law regarding fences and walls.
7. Approval of Minutes: July 7, 2009 and July 21, 2009.
Other Business:
9. Adjournment.
Jonathan Kanter, AICP
Director of Planning
273 -1747
NOTE: IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD IS UNABLE TO ATTEND, PLEASE NOTIFY
SANDY POLCE AT 273 -1747.
(A quorum of four (4) members is necessary to conduct Planning Board business.)
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS
Tuesday, August 4, 2009
By direction of the Chairperson of the Planning Board, -NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that Public Hearings will be
held by the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca on Tuesday, August 4, 2009, at 215 North Tioga Street, Ithaca,
N.Y., at the following times and on the following matters:
7:05 P.M. Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval and Special Permit for modifications
to the proposed Cornell University Water System Improvements project. The proposed
modification involves an adjustment in the alignment of the section of pipe being installed
under and adjacent to Cascadilla Creek, shifting the location on the north side of the creek in an
easterly direction closer to the Cornell library annex building. The project modifications will
take place within the Town of Ithaca Low Density Residential Zone and Planned Development
Zone No. 9. Cornell University, Owner /Applicant; Chris Bordlemay, Agent:
7:15 P.M. Consideration of a forest management plan for the proposed timber harvest on the lands of
Edward J. McArdle Trust, located off of Orchard Hill Road, Tax Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.2,
Conservation Zone, and Tax Parcel Number 22.- 2 -2.9, Low Density Residential Zone. The
proposal involves the harvest of approximately 300 trees with >14" DBH on 30 acres in "Stand
1," and includes temporary, portable bridge(s) over stream crossing(s). Edward J. McArdle
Trust, Owner; Wagner Hardwoods, LLC, Applicant; and James Wilkins III, CF, Agent.
7:30 P.M. Consideration of a Recommendation to the Town of Ithaca Town Board for the proposed local
law regarding fences and walls.
Said Planning Board will at said times and said place hear all persons in support of such matters or objections
thereto. Persons may appear by agent or in person. Individuals with visual impairments, hearing impairments or
other special needs, will be provided with assistance as necessary, upon request. Persons desiring assistance must
make such a request not less than 48 hours prior to the time of the public hearing.
Jonathan Kanter, AICP
Director of Planning
273 -1747
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