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DATE
REGULAR MEETING
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 2006
215 NORTH TIOGA STREET
ITHACA, NY 14850
PRESENT: Fred Wilcox, Chairperson; Board Members - Eva Hoffmann,
George Conneman, Tracey Mitrano, Larry Thayer, Rod Howe,
Kevin Talty
STAFF: Susan Brock, Attorney for the Town; Jonathan Kanter, Director of
Planning; Daniel Walker, Director of Engineering; Mike Smith,
Planner; Christine Balestra, Planner; Nicole Tedesco, Planner,
Paulette Neilsen, Deputy Town Clerk
EXCUSED: None
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Wilcox declares the meeting duly opened at 7:05 p.m., and accepts
for the record Secretary's Affidavit of Posting and Publication of the Notice of
Public Hearings in Town Hall and the Ithaca Journal on August 28, 2006 and
August 30, 2006, together with the properties under discussion, as appropriate,
upon the Clerks of the City of Ithaca and the Town of Danby, upon the Tompkins
County Commissioner of Planning, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of
Public Works, and upon the applicants and /or agents, as appropriate, on August
30, 2006.
Chairperson Wilcox states the Fire Exit Regulations to those assembled, as
required by the New York State Department of State, Office of Fire Prevention
and Control.
PERSONS TO BE HEARD
At 7:06 p.m. Chairperson Wilcox invited any member of the audience wishing to
address the Board on matters not on the agenda to come forward. There was no
one present wishing to address the Board. Closed at 7:06 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING
Consideration of a Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals
regarding sign variances for the proposed replacement sign for the St.
Catherine of Siena Church, 302 St. Catherine Circle, Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 71-1-10, Medium Density Residential Zone. The proposal
includes replacing the existing 24 square foot, six -foot tall sign with a new
+/- 32 square foot, seven -foot tall sign for the church. St. Catherine of
Siena Church, Owner; Patricia Cote, Applicant.
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Chairperson Wilcox — Is Ms. Cote here this evening, or someone else? Want to
come up an join us. Is this where they asked for volunteers and everyone took a
step back, and you were left? .
Patricia Cote, 302 St. Catherine Circle
Ms. Cote — Totally by default. I'm the one on the application, so I get it.
Chairperson Wilcox — We will try to make this as painless as we can. Name and
address please.
Ms. Cote -- Work address or home?
Chairperson Wilcox — I will take, a professional address, yes.
Ms. Cote — Patricia Cote, 302 St. Catherine Circle, Ithaca, New York,
Chairperson Wilcox — Can you provide a brief overview of what's being proposed
this evening.
Ms. Cote — We currently have a sign that is very old and kind of outdated and
we'd like to replace it with a new, larger, prettier sign as soon as possible. Is that
condensed?
(Laughter)
Board Member Mitrano — Let's give her an ward for the most concise....
Chairperson Wilcox — That will do. And you realize that you are coming before
the Planning Board for a recommendation to the Zoning Board and then at some
point you will go to the Zoning Board and actually apply for the appropriate
variance.
Ms. Cote — Yes, on the 18th
Chairperson Wilcox — Alright, questions to the applicant with regard to the
proposed sign.
Board Member Conneman — I'll admit that you have a sign that is sort of tired.
My question that I have is why a higher sign. This is the only sign that I could
find in this residential neighborhood that goes quite aways around this. Till you
get to the Village of Cayuga Heights, till you get to way up Warren Road.
Ms. Cote — Only because there is a little arch on the new sign that we are
proposing. It's a little bit higher where the current sign is flat across the bo...
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across the top. Because this one curves up, it gives it a little bit more height in
the center.
Board Member Conneman — How many items are you going to hang below? I
noticed that you had the on...
Ms. Cote — One. Just the one.
Board Member Conneman — Just the one.
Ms. Cote — Just one.
Board Member Conneman — Forever.
Ms. Cote -- For as long as we have the clothing drop -off box on our property,
yes.
Chairperson Wilcox — You're not planning on just rotating it with other signs?
Ms. Cote — No, actually there's a plaque on there for the times of the Mass
schedule that we can replace which just pops off and we can put another one on..
It will not take up any more space on the signage.
Board Member Conneman — I don't care if you replace it, the issue is whether
you hang another thing below it.
Ms. Cote — Yup. We're not going to hang any others but that one.
Chairperson Wilcox - And the used clothing sign is detachable it looks like?
Ms. Cote — Yes
Chairperson Wilcox —.Yes, so... should you not offer that you could put something
else there in its' place of the same size.
Ms. Cote — If we need to. Sure.
Board Member Conneman — Its' not going to be illuminated?
Ms. Cote — No, no it's not going to be illuminated.
Board Member Hoffmann— I was also. wondering why the increase in size
because its not that large an increase but now I understand it's because of that
thing on top. But you know, when I look at the photos, it looks like there is a
rather large tree with branches hanging
top of your new sign would be hidden.
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over the top of the existing sign so the
Ms. Cote — Fortunately that tree belongs to us and we can trim up that ... trim it so
it...trim it back so it is not a visual hazard for either the road or the sign.
Board Member Hoffmann— Is that part of the plan then? To trim some of the tree
branches?
Ms. Cote Possibly. It depends on... because the view ...when I park at the
corner to turn, the view is not obstructed of the current sign and pretty much the
top part of the sign is just going to be our little emblem for the icon of the church
so it's not going to be distracting from the major information on the sign, like the
Board Member Hoffmann -- Well I guess the reason that I raised it was if it's just
the content of the sign that you want to update, I don't see the need to increase
the size if the top might be hidden ... the top of the new sign... because then it
doesn't serve any person.
Ms. Cote — Well I don't think that ... the branches probably will be cut back so that
there will be no obstructed view. I'm sure that that is what we will do. But as far
as the design of the sign, I really didn't have much say on that, the boss did and I
just get to come here and fill out the paper work and ask you folks for permission
to do it.
Board Member Thayer— Do the posts enter into the square footage?
Ms. Balestra — Yes they do.
Chairperson Wilcox -- Chris is nodding her head
Ms. Balestra — Yes..
Chairperson Wilcox — Because of the way that we measure signs?
Ms. Balestra — Say again.
Chairperson Wilcox — Because of the way in which we measure signs?
Ms. Balestra —Yes,
Board Member Thayer— I don' think that's necessary. I have no problem with the
square footage or the height in this particular case.
Board Member Hoffmann —
wonder why is it necessary...
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No. I don't have a big problem, I just think... I just
Board Member Thayer— Well yeah, the branches definitely need to be trimmed,
especially if it's going to be higher.
Chairperson Wilcox — Kevin, I'm sorry, what was the question you asked?
Board Member Talty — The current signage vs, the new signage...I got the
square footage and the height, but what about the width? In other words, is it
going to utilize the same signposts or is it going to come out further? And the
only reason I am asking that is ... potential visibility concern pulling out into the
road.
Ms. Cote — It will ... we would have to replace the posts but we are going to start
from the current front existing post and work back.
Board Member Talty — Okay.
Ms. Cote — So it doesn't get any closer to the road.
Chairperson Wilcox — Other questions, discussion?
Chairperson Wilcox opened the Public Hearing at 7:12 p.m. and invited the public
to speak. There being no one, the Public Hearing was closed at 7:13 p. m.
Chairperson Wilcox — Any further discussion?
Board Member Hoffmann— Well the only thing that I would like to add has to do
with the next application too and that is; I think it would be very useful to have in
the Zoning Ordinance, if it were possible, or attached to it ... a couple of examples
of how to figure out the size of the sign for applicants when they try to design and
perhaps build the signs.
Board Member Thayer— And eliminate the posts ... as part of the sign..
Board Member Hoffmann — Well no. I just think the language has to be clearer
and a couple of examples given so that one could say; In this sign the posts are
included and then a sign with the posts behind or whatever then they are not be
included.
Board Member Thayer— Because if the posts were behind in this particular case,
the square footage would go down.
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Board Member Hoffmann— Right. I know. And this seems to cause a lot of
problems every time we have a sign. Certainly, in my mind, I am totally confused
until somebody on staff explains it to me and it was very well explained in one of
the applications and that's what ... I just thought I would like to suggest that we get
something like that for applicants, whether it's in the Zoning Ordinance or it's
something that we can hand to them as a separate sheet, with clarifications.
Mr. Kanter — We have actually talked about that and actually it would certainly
help if you jointly with Staff made a proposal to Codes and Ordinances that we
do something like that because we also think there are some clarifications in the
wording of the law that need to be made. I think illustrations is probably a great
idea to help with some of these kinds of things. But there are a few ... this one is
one of the vague wordings of the law that need to be addressed. It's a policy
decision as to whether you want to include the posts as square footage or not
when they are outside the sign but that's been the age old interpretation for many
years that the Town has taken. So, if we don't want to do that then we should
say so, and if we do want to do it then we should clarify it ... what it is. And there
are a couple of other provisions in the law that should probably similarly be
addressed.
Board Member Hoffmann — I don't want to propose it in the middle of another
resolution, but when we have voted on this one, maybe I can do it.
Mr. Kanter — Interestingly, we have been talking about that as well, so...
Chairperson Wilcox — Susan, are you comfortable with language?
Ms. Brock— I had some suggested additions to the,language.
Chairperson Wilcox — Okay.
Ms, Brock— In paragraph b ... that the replacement sign be installed in the same
location as the existing sign and its' appearance and construction conform to the
above referenced plans. So I would add the latter phrase there... Its' appearance
and construction conform to the above referenced plans. Add paragraph c ... that
the replacement sign no be illuminated and add paragraph d ... the applicant must
obtain a sign permit prior to installing the sign. Because the sign is not exempt, it
doesn't meet the requirements for an exempt sign, it is therefore a regulated sign
and regulated signs need site sign permits.
Chairperson Wilcox — Isn't that by ... since they have to go to the Zoning Board of
Appeals anyways, isn't that being redundant?
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Ms. Brock— No, they need to get the variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals
and once they have that they will be able to go to the enforcement officer and get
the permit.
Chairperson Wilcox — Tracey, and Kevin, changes acceptable
(Nods)
Board Votes.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 -082:
Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals, Sign Variance -
St. Catherine of Siena Church, 302 St. Catherine Circle, Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 71-1 -10
MOTION made by Board Member Mitrano, seconded by Board Member Talty.
WHEREAS.
1. This action is consideration of a Recommendation to the Zoning Board of
Appeals regarding a sign variance for the proposed replacement sign for
the St. Catherine of Siena Church, 302 St. Catherine Circle, Town of
Ithaca Tax Parcel No71 -1 -10, Medium Density Residential Zone. The
proposal includes replacing the existing 24 square foot, six -foot tall sign
with a new 32 square foot, seven -foot tall sign for the church. St.
Catherine of. Siena Church, Owner; Patricia Cote, Applicant, and
2. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on September 5, 2006, has
reviewed and accepted as adequate, plans entitled "St. Catherine of Siena
Sign/Two -Sided 48" x 72"", received on August 1, 2006, and other
application material, and
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED.
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as the Sign Review Board,
recommends to the Zoning Board of Appeals that the request for a sign
variance for a 32 square foot replacement sign for the St. Catherine of
Siena Church, be approved, subject to the following conditions:
a. granting by the Zoning Board of Appeals of the required sign
variance, and
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b. that the replacement sign be installed in the same location as the
existing sign, and
C, that the replacement sign not be illuminated, and
d. the applicant must obtain a sign permit prior to installing the sign.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Board Member Hoffmann — So may I make a proposal according to the wording
that Jonathan Kanter just suggested? That we request the Codes and
Ordinances Committee to look. into clarifications in the sign law.
Chairperson Wilcox — Can we do that?
Board Member Hoffmann — I just thought that we would do it now so I won't
forget it.
Board Member Conneman — If it involves a motion and a second then do it know.
That seems quite simple. Do it now. I don't know.
Chairperson Wilcox — Would somebody like to make the motion.
Board Member Conneman — I'll make the motion.
Chairperson Wilcox — I'm sorry I was doing something else. I'm sorry ... did you
say you wanted to do it or did you actually make a motion?
Board Member Conneman — She made a motion.
Chairperson Wilcox — I'm sorry. I was reading something...
Board Member Hoffmann — I did it in a very informal way.
Chairperson Wilcox -- I have a ... since I didn't listen... since I didn't hear it ... I want
to make sure I have a valid motion. I have a second from George Conneman.
Would you repeat it for my benefit, please.
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Board Member Hoffmann — I said I would like to make a motion that based on the
wording that Jonathan Kanter just used, that we make a recommendation to the
Codes and Ordinance Committee... Ordinances Committee to look into updating
and clarifying the language of the sign law and I didn't say but I will add now; and
perhaps including some examples and diagrams of how signs are to be
measured. Does that do it?
Chairperson Wilcox — So moved by Eva, George you second that as revised?
Board Member Conneman — Yes.
Board Votes.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 — 083, Proposal to
the Codes and Ordinances Committee Regarding Clarification of Sign Laws
MOTION made by Eva Hoffmann, seconded by George Conneman
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board recommends that the
Codes and Ordinance Committee consider updating and clarifying the Sign Law
to eliminate confusion caused by vagueness and conflicting guidelines, in
particular, with regard to determining the permitted area of freestanding signs,
among other subjects,
And,
that the Town Planning Board recommends the addition of illustrations, pictures
and /or diagrams to help applicants understand the differences in sign
measurements.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson opens the next Agenda Item at 7:20 p.m, and reads the public
announcement.
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PUBLIC HEARING
Consideration of a Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals
regarding sign variances for the proposed installation of one sign on each
parcel for The Overlook at West Hill complex, located at the intersection on
Trumansburg Road and West Hill Circle, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.'s
24 -4 -14.23 and 24 -4- 14.24, Multiple Residence. The proposal includes
installing two +/` 28 square foot signs at the entrance from Trumansburg
Road. Overlook at West Hill LP, Owner; Stacey Whitney, Agent.
Stacey Whitney, 200 West Hill Circle with the Overlook at West Hill
Mr. Whitney — I have the same problem as the previous applicant. We
purchased two signs, 24 square feet by code ... I was given the code by Kristie
Rice and the code says "One free - standing sign not exceeding 24 feet in area
identifying a multiple residence. The maximum height of the sign should be 6-
feet." And then it says ...it gives a definition of a free - standing sign and the
area... it says " the area of the smallest rectangle, triangle or circle, whichever
results in the smallest area calculation, circumscribing one face of the sign panel
or sign symbol, grouped panels or symbols, inclusive of decorative appendages,
but exclusive of supports." So I purchased two signs, 24- square feet and put the
signs up with two posts on the side and was told that I was out of code. That the.
signs would either have to be taken down or made smaller or come before the
Board for a variance. I have copies of the code, the code is very vague. I also
have a copy of the e-mail from Kristie Rice, I also met with Jon Kanter. on site
and Kristie on site and everybody in the Code Enforcement office is... has said
that the sign law is very, ,very vague and that they are ... this is Kristie's words.."
the policy of this department has long been described to you previously regarding
the measurement of signs. " It's their policy, it's not the code. The code is very
clear, the code says "exclusive of posts" but their policy means ... includes the
posts.
Board Member Mitrano — Did you approach any of the Staff for clarification
before you made the purchase?
Mr. Whitney — I did. I talked to Kristie Rice and her explanation was ... take this,
follow this, and you will have no issues. I followed this to the letter and I have
issues. I have a copy for everybody if you want to see the code.
Board Member Mitrano — Alright. I. recommend that pursuant to the fact that we
are going to look into this and recognizing that the code is vague, that we allow
this recommendation, allow this motion.
Chairperson Wilcox — Can I get you closer to the microphone,
Board Member Mitrano — I'd like to move this motion.
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(Laughter)
Board Member Conneman— I have a question. Do you really need two signs?
You know once you get the Overlook at West Hill full, it seems to me that you
don't need two signs.
Mr. Whitney — Well you need two signs because heading north and south on 96,
there's no way to position the sign for to see traffic north and south. You have to
put one at one entrance and one at the other end so you can see one coming
north and one coming south on 96. Because there's trees and a barn and as
doctor's office and high growth grass on both sides so we needed one
heading... one facing north and one facing south on each parcel.
Board Member Hoffmann — I had the same question George when I ... then I went
up there and looked at it and I realized that because of the topography and the
plants around that it might not be safe to have just one sign placed
... (inaudible) ... to the road...
Mr. Whitney — You'd have to place...
Board Member Conneman — My question... because I would have looked at it
too, is well maybe if you positioned it differently but I didn't...
Mr. Whitney — Well there is also the signal poles
Board Member Conneman — That's right. That's true.
Mr. Whitney — The electric poles there that wouldn't allow us to bring it closer to
the road.
Board Member Talty — Just clarification... Who's Kristie Rice?
Mr. Walker— Senior Code Enforcement Officer.
Board Member Talty — It says its' to be illuminated but I didn't see any
illumination items in here like what type of bulbs, fixtures...
Mr. Whitney — Its' not to be illuminated. No illumination.
Board Member Talty — Oh, I'm sorry ... not... I misread it. I'm sorry
Chairperson Wilcox — Much better right.
Board Member Thayer— It does say exclusive of supports.
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Mr. Kanter — It's pretty clear.
Mr. Kanter — Except when there considered decorative appendages, that's where
the problem comes in.
Ms. Balestra — It's very subjective.
Board Member Thayer -- We're right back where we were.
Mr. Whitney — Anything that you put on the outsides of the ...whether it be wood
whether it be brick whether it be anything...wood is not decorative if you ask me,
it's a simple 44. 1 didn't put something decorative up. 'I mean... brick or brass or
anything. I put a 44 post up and anything more simple than that...I...I don't see
it.
Board Member Thayer— I agree with him.
Chairperson Wilcox — Any other questions. Can you take a seat so we can give
the public a chance. Oh, before you go ... again you realize that you're here for a
recommendation ... we'll make a recommendation either positive or negative and
then you'll take that and go to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Mr. Whitney — Yes right.
Mr. Whitney — Just one more quick thing. I'm here because... I mean we could
have just let it go through but I'm here because I don't want the next guy to have
this problem. The problem is we purchased two signs at a total of $8,000 that we
were told that we may not be able to use because of the posts. It's not clear in
the law ... well it is clear... it says
Board Member Mitrano — That's why we've already voted on that.
Mr. Whitney -- ,.it says posts but I just want to make sure that the next guy
doesn't have to go through this. The signs are within the letter of the law, or
within the letter of the code, its' the posts that don't. I just want to make sure that
other people don't have to go through the thing that we're going through. Okay.
Thank you.
Chairperson Wilcox — Thanks.
Chairperson Wilcox opens the Public Hearing at 7:26 p:m. There being no one,
Chairperson Wilcox closes the Public Hearing at 7:27 p.m.
Motion made by Board Member Howe, seconded by Board Member Kevin Talty.
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Board Member Hoffmann— I have a question about the motion. Why does it say
28- square feet in the first whereas, and 30- square feet in the Resolved A?
Mr. Kanter — Not to exceed 30...
Board Member Hoffmann— Oh, it's for measuring errors.
Chairperson Wilcox — Susan. You all set?
Ms. Brock— I do not have anything.
Chairperson Wilcox — I don't see any scribbles on your copy of the proposed.
Board Member Hoffmann— Again, I see that I have a scribble here which. I should
have raised when I made the motion. The question is; If a penalty, I mean if an
applicant does not obtain a sign permit before installing a sign, what is the
penalty, if any?
Board Member Thayer— You have to remove the sign.
Board Member Hoffmann— Is that stated anywhere?
Ms. Brock— the sign law has enforcement provisions in it. So all those provisions
would apply to any violations of the law.
Board Member Hoffmann— Okay. Well maybe that's something we should look
at too. When we look at the sign law.
Mr. Kanter — It's all in there. It's basically, what we try and do is work with
applicants and get them to conform rather than immediately try to impose
penalties which really requires going to court to have a court proceeding to
impose the fines.
Chairperson Wilcox — That's true with any... if not any, most instances where an
applicant has done something which requires a variance and after the fact they
can apply for a variance and should the variance not be granted, presumably the
offending structure or whatever has to be removed, whether that's a house, a
garage or a shed or whatever.
Ms. Brock— Or it has to just be brought into performance with the code. The
condition that required the variance has to be removed.
Chairperson Wilcox — Probably the most notorious case around here was that
large house in Manlius built by a lawyer about ten years ago which I
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believe ... Skaneatles ...thank you, which was torn down because it was in
violation. I believe he might have been a little arrogant about...
Board Member Conneman— Cayuga Heights where they made them move the
garage.
Chairperson Wilcox — Alright. I have a motion and a second. Any further
discussion.
Board votes.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 — 084
Recommendation to Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals
Sign Variance - Overlook at West Hill, West Hill Circle,
Tax Parcel Nos. 24-4 -14.23 and 244- 14.24, Sign Review Board (Planning
Board) September 5, 2006
MOTION made by Board Member Rod Howe, seconded by Board Member Kevin
Talty
WHEREAS:
2. This action is consideration of a Recommendation to the Zoning Board of
Appeals for sign variances for two identical identification signs, to be
installed on opposite sides of the Overlook at West Hill apartment complex
entrance, at the intersection of Trumansburg Road and West Hill Circle,
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel Nos. 24 -4 -14.23 and 244-14.24 (each sign
located on a separate parcel), Multiple Residence Zone. The signs will
each have an area of +/- 28 square feet and a height of +/- 5.8 feet.
Overlook at West Hill, Owner; Stacey Whitney, Applicant, and
2. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on September 5, 2006, has
reviewed and accepted as adequate, a drawing showing the dimensions
of the Overlook at West Hill sign, date stamped August 21, 2006, and
other application material, and
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as the Sign Review Board,
recommends to the Zoning Board of Appeals that the request for sign
variances for two +/ -28 square feet signs, each less than six feet in height,
for the Overlook at West Hill development, be approved, subject to the
following conditions:
a. Each of the proposed
sign area, nor six feet
Sign Law, and
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signs shall not exceed +/ -30 square feet
in total height, as defined in the Town of
b. The proposed signs shall not be illuminated, and
c. The applicants must obtain sign permits prior to installing signs.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
in total
Ithaca
Chairperson Wilcox — Representatives of T- Mobile are here I presume ... or,.. is
anybody here representing T- Mobile or... (no one is present) ... interesting. I
gotta be careful about next because I know the Brainards are not here yet. I'm
sorry what?
(Audience member states that they are here.)
Chairperson Wilcox — Where's Linnette?
(Audience members states that she's home)
Chairperson Wilcox — Where's Michael ?... No... alright. Unfortunately your
Public Hearing is scheduled for 7:45 p.m. so legally I can not open the Public
Hearing until then.
Board Member Mitrano — Well, can we hear the case?
Chairperson Wilcox — We can receive and discuss it.
(Board Members agree to do that.)
Chairperson Wilcox — The next item this evening is a State Environmental Quality
Review Determination for the proposed telecommunication facility located at 756
Dryden Road.
Interesting because this is a project that was previously approved...
Ms. Balestra — Oh yes.
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Chairperson Wilcox -- ...but its just, .. the time limit for beginning construction has
elapsed.
Ms. Balestra — Right. The Zoning Board... Under the old ordinance, applicants
were required to get Site Plan Approval from the Planning board and then
Special Approval from the Zoning Board and any variances and they didn't need
any variances for this but they required Special Approval. The Special Approval
expired. Then the Zoning Ordinance changed, which required applicants to get
Site Plan Approval and Special Permits from the Planning Board and just
variances from the Zoning Board if necessary. So now the applicant needs
Special Permit from the Planning Board.
Chairperson Wilcox — Because they did not begin construction in the ...
Ms. Balestra — Correct... 18 months.
Board Member Talty — But it's really the same proposal...
Ms. Balestra — The only change to this proposal is that they want to further
minimize aesthetic impact by covering the antennae cables with a cover that
matches the tower which is white. Otherwise it is the exact same proposal that
both Boards approved three years ago.
Board Member Hoffmann -- I was wondering, because I have been looking at
that tower over the years, and I recognized right away that the photo that was
given to us was an old one where those black cable don't show up.
Ms. Balestra — Right.
Board Member Hoffmann— And the antennae aren't there either. I took some
photos before I came tonight but they are in my camera which I can pass along if
anyone needs to see, but maybe you all have seen... and there are... It's not just
one cable that you barely see, there are lots of these black cables coming out
from this post and then going around the middle I guess, of the water tower itself,
and they are very obvious and it wasn't clear to me if this company would cover
only their own cables or would they cover the existing cables too?
Ms. Balestra — No. They would cover their own. The cables that are existing
either belong to Cingular Wireless or Verizon Wireless and actually I visited the
site yesterday and noticed that they were not painted to match the tower, neither
were any of the antennae and those were both conditions of the Planning Board
approval for those proposals as well.
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Board Member Hoffmann— I thought that I remembered that we had asked
something like that, but I wasn't sure. So can we go back and insist that they do
it now if they have not lived up to the ... agreement.
Ms. Balestra — Yes. It's something I noticed today and I meant to speak with
Susan Brock about it and I hadn't gotten to it yet. I think that...I think that makes
them in violation of the site plan approval and I think that we can make them go
back and paint them to match the tower like they were supposed to but that's not
T- Mobile, that was Cingular and then Verizon.
Board Member Hoffmann— It's just, it would make sense if work was going to be
done and they need to put up scaffolding and whatever that they coordinate with
each other and make it less expensive for each other.
Chairperson Wilcox — I'm sorry ... You expect them to coordinate with each other?
(laughter)
Chairperson Wilcox — They're in competition with each other.
Board Member Hoffmann— I expect them to be smart about it.
Mr. Kanter — Well actually the coordinator would be Cornell who owns the tower
and is leasing these ... the site to these now three different developers.
Board Member Hoffmann— I expect Cornell to be smart about it too.
Board Member Thayer— Christine is it clear whether these are going to be higher
and stick up. higher than the current ones?
Ms. Balestra — No, they're going to be at 74 -feet tall and I believe the water tank
is 96- feet.
Board Member Thayer— Okay, fine.
Ms. Balestra — They'll be on the level with...
(inaudible)
Board Member Thayer— It show a simulation.
(inaudible)
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Board Member Conneman— Well the issue is that water towers are not pretty, I
mean they never are pretty. We are fortunate to have one there we can hang
everything on. It's a great asset.
Chairperson Wilcox — I am trying to think ... three of the national providers would
be on this tower and then down the road we approved one on a telephone pole.
Ms. Balestra — yeah, that was Nextel.
Chairperson Wilcox — Was that Nextel? So they are closer to the power plant. In
fact there's two allowed near the existing poser plant, both on telephone poles.
All co- located.
Board Member Talty — There's two things Fred... Like... how bout with the
existing that we already passed, seems they're in violation... that's question
one...
Chairperson Wilcox — Well of the ... of the two other applicants. This Board does
not have enforcement power. Enforcement is something we are not able to do
and shouldn't do. So we leave enforcement to the Enforcement Officer, The
Zoning Enforcement Officer and we leave it to the attorney to provide the
appropriate advise. In terms of this applicant, we have pre ... we have a project
which we approved once that failed to build within the 18- months that was given
by the Zoning Board so now they're back here for the project to be essentially
again ... and the only change is one that seems to mitigate environmental impact
which is the unsightly cables which run from the equipment on the ground to the
antennae up above on the water tower.
Board Member Mitrano — So procedurally, can we still call for a Public Hearing
now?
Chairperson Wilcox — Absolutely. If we're comfortable proceeding without the
applicants and /or an agent...
Ms. Brock— On the SEQR I read some language one way, I don't know if
anybody else did but, in the first whereas it says "the proposal includes attaching
nine panel antennas approximately 75 plus or minus feet high on the existing
water tank." And that to me when I first read it sounded like the antennas where
going to be 75 -feet high, in other words, in length as opposed to 75 -feet above
the base of the existing tank. So I thought we could change that language to
read ' approximately 75 plus or minus feet above the base of the existing water
tank.' Just to clarify that language. I also could not find the size of the
panels... I'm sure they're in here, in the drawings but I just didn't see that and it
seemed to me we should make sure that the size is listed in the drawings and
then the resolution itself won't have to set out the size because the Town, the
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Planning Board would be requiring the panels be constructed as shown in the
drawing but I don't know if Christine, maybe you or Dan could just show us where
in the drawing the exact dimensions of the panels are shown.
Ms. Balestra — On page ... on drawing 3c, it says antennae and coaxil cable
schedule, the chart, chart antennae marked Al, it tells you I'm guessing the
brand of the antennae and then in parenthesis the dimensions of the antennas.
Ms. Brock— Okay. So then that information is in here so you won't need to add
anything to your resolutions specifically about size. So then for the SEQR
resolution I would just have that one change that I have already mentioned.
Chairperson Wilcox — Would you repeat the change again please Susan.
Ms. Brock -- Yes. The second paragraph in the first Whereas clause reads "The
proposal includes attaching nine antennas approximately 75 plus or minus feet
above the base of the existing water tank" and then the sentence continues as
shown in your drafted resolution.
Chairperson Wilcox — Approximately 75- feet plus or minus above the base of the
existing water tank.
Chairperson Wilcox — Any further discussion in regard to the environmental
review?
Board votes.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 -085
SEQR - Special Permit, T- Mobile Telecommunication Antennas on Water
Tank, Dryden Road /Route 366, Tax Parcel No. 65- 1 -5.2, Planning Board,
September 5, 2006
MOTION made by Board Member Thayer, seconded by Board Member Howe.
WHEREAS.
1. This action is Consideration of Special Permit for the proposed wireless
telecommunication facility on the existing water tank at the Cornell
University McConville Barn, 756 Dryden Road /NYS Route 366, Town of
Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 65- 1 -5.2, Low Density Residential Zone. The
proposal includes attaching nine panel antennas approximately 75 +/- feet
above the base of the existing water tank, and installing three base
transmitter stations on a concrete pad near the base of the tank. This
project originally received Site Plan Approval from the Planning Board and
Special Approval from the Zoning Board of Appeals in 2003. The Zoning
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Board Special Approval expired in 2005. The Telecommunications Law
was updated in 2004 to require Special Permit from the Planning Board
rather than Special Approval from the Zoning Board. Therefore, the
applicant is required to obtain Special Permit for the project. Cornell
University, Owner; T- Mobile, Applicant; Matthew T. Kerwin, Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is
acting as Lead Agency in this uncoordinated environmental review with
respect to Special Permit, and
3. The Planning Board, on September 5, 2006, has reviewed and accepted
as adequate a Full Environmental Assessment Form Part I, submitted by
the applicant, and Part II and Visual Addendum, prepared by the Town
Planning staff; plans entitled "Site I.D. Number 3TOS216D, Cornell WT,
756 Dryden Road; Ithaca, NY 14853," including Title Sheet T -1, Site Plan
and Detail sheets C -1 through C -5, and Electrical Detail sheets E1 and
E2, all prepared by DDS Engineers, revised and date stamped August 25,
2006, and other application materials, and
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative determination of
environmental significance with respect to the proposed Special Permit;
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination
of environmental significance for the reasons set forth in the Environmental
Assessment Form Part 11 and Visual Addendum, in accordance with the New
York State Environmental Quality Review Act for the above referenced action as
proposed and, therefore, an Environmental Impact Statement will not be
required.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Wilcox announces the next item on the Agenda at 7:40 p.m. and
reads the announcement.
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PUBLICE HEARING
Consideration of Special Permit for the proposed wireless
telecommunication facility on the existing water tank at the McConville
Barn of Cornell University, 756 Dryden Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.
65- 1 -5.2, Low Density Residential Zone. The project involves installing 9
panel antennas on the walkway handrail of the existing water tank and 3
base transmitter stations on a concrete pad near the base of the tank. This
proiect originally received Site Plan Approval from the Planning Board and
Special Approval from the Zoning Board of Appeals in 2003. The Zoning
Board Special Approval expired in 2005. The Telecommunications Law
was updated in 2004 to require Special Permit from the Planning Board,
rather than Special Approval from the Zoning Board. The applicant is
therefore required to obtain Special Permit from the Planning Board for the
project. Cornell University, Owner; T- Mobile, Applicant; Matthew T. Kerwin,
Agent.
Chairperson Wilcox — For the record ... is Mr. Kerwin here? Mr. Kerwin is not
here this evening. For the record, is anyone else representing Cornell or T-
Mobile in the audience this evening. For the record no one is here representing
Cornell, T- Mobile with regard to this applicant.
Chairperson Wilcox — Do we still wish to continue?
(Board all says yes)
Chairperson Wilcox — Okay. Bear with me just a second. Discussion?
Board Member Hoffmann -- I have another question having to do with the cables
being covered or painted... it wasn't clear to me which and that is... in your
introduction you say that the antennae cables painted to match the water tank
and located along one of the water tank's supports. Does that mean that just the
vertical cables would be covered and color matched to the water tower or would
the they also go around a circle to hook up to the antennae also be covered and
painted.
Ms. Balestra — It is my understanding that all of the cable will be covered.
Vertical and ..
Chairperson Wilcox — Sounds like a condition to me. Just to make sure but I
would assume that we want all of cable to be the same color as the tower.
Board Member Hoffmann— And it did say that the cabinets would also be painted
to match so I would also think that they would do it to all of them, I just wanted to
be sure.
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Chairperson Wilcox — Are you going to modify C Susan?
Chairperson Wilcox — Any further disussion?
Board Member Hoffmann— And I noticed in the last, in the very last paragraph of
this resolution, it's marked C, ii says " in order to minimize potential negative
aesthetic impacts the cellular anntenas and equipment cabinets are to be the
same color but it doesn't mention the cables so maybe you should add that.
Ms. Balestra — Yes, that's a good idea.
Chairperson Wilcox — Let me give the public a chance to voice there opinions.
Chairperson Wilcox opens the Public Hearing at 8:02 p.m. There being no one,
Chairperson Wilcox closed the Public Hearing at 8:02 p.m.
Chairperson Wilcox — Any other questions? ... discussion? ... Does the Board feel
comfortable proceeding to a vote without the applicant or an agent being here?
Board states they are.
Chairperson Wilcox — Susan you all set with those changes? First whereas....
Ms. Brock— First Whereas make the same change that we made in the SEQR
resolution so ... the phrase "approximately 75 plus or minus feet high on th
existing water tank" will be revised to read It approximately 75 plus or minus feet
above the base of. the existing water tank. Second page paragraph C, add at the
end of that paragraph after the words "as indicated on the submitted plans" add
the following it comma and all the antennae cable shall be covered with a cover
that is painted to match the water tank.' ,
Chairperson Wilcox - George and Larry ... those changes acceptable.
(they agree)
Ms. Brock— and then I also have a suggestion to add a new paragraph D, the
telecommunications facility shall comply will all requirements of section 270 -219
of the Town Code, except those requirements waived above. And the reason I
would like to add that language is that the Telecommunications Facility Provision
in the Code has certain requirements such as the facilities not be lit unless the
FAA requires it, you shall hang no signs or banners from the facility... things like
that and I want to make sure that all these other requirements that are in our
code are incorporated into your approval. You did in your resolution, you do
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waive a few of the requirements such as the dimensional standards and so I am
excepting those out. .
(Someone new enters the room)
Chairperson Wilcox — Are you Mr. Kerwin?
Unknown — No I am a collegue of Mr. Kerwin's. Forgive my delay but I am here
on behalf of T- Mobile.
(Laughter and jokes)
Chairperson Wilcox — Come on up here please. I won't chastise you any more
than we already have. If you would pull the microphone over and just for the
record your name and a professional address will work fine.
Andrew Leja, Hiscock & Barclay, 300 South State Street, Syracuse, 13210
Chairperson Wilcox — Very good. We have already make SEQR determination.
WE have already discussed the application in front of us. We held a Public
Hearing, no one spoke, we closed the Public Hearing and we were just
discussing some revisions to the resolution as drafted for us. That's where we
are so... Susan.
Ms. Brock— I was finished with all the changes.
Chairperson Wilcox — Do you have any questions?
Mr. Leja — I have none sir.
Chairperson Wilcox — I think that probably the only substantive change that we
have made to the resolution is the wording that requires explicitly that all the
wires be painted to match.
Mr. Leja — Understood.
Ms, Brock— Well actually that they be covered and that the cover be matched...
Chairperson Wilcox — I'm sorry... that they be covered to match and that's all
cables, both the vertical and the horizontal cables.
Mr. Leja —Yes, understood.
Chairperson Wilcox — Thank you, I was thinking of the other two. I think that is
the only substantive change we've made to the resolution.
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Mr. Leja — I would note.that in the language of the draft that .I received it
mentioned nine antennas to be located but I think that was picked up from a prior
application, its actually only six antennas will be involved here.
Ms. Balestra — The original approval was for up to nine.
Board Member Hoffmann— We did talk a little bit about the black cables that have
been put up by the other applicants and that were supposed to have been
painted by them but haven't been and I would like to see coordination between
them and you so that that work could be done efficiently and expeditiously and in
a smart was .so that there is not a doubling of effort, but I don't know how you do
any of this so how that is going to happen, I don't know. But it would be nice to
see some cooperation if possible and I have no idea when we can get the other
applicants to do what they were supposed4to have done.
Mr. Walker— Right now Cornell is benefiting from the leases. We will contact
Cornell... Code Enforcement will contact Cornell and tell them they are not in
compliance with the Planning Board and the approvals that they previously
received and ask them to come into compliance. We will work from there.
Chairperson Wilcox — I want to go back to the number of antennas. We have a
SEQR motion which says nine...
Board Member Thayer— does it say nine or does it say...
Ms. Balestra — It says up to...
Ms. Brock— No it says nine...
Chairperson Wilcox — Everybody pull your SEQR motions... It says attaching nine
panel antennas is what it says in the first Whereas. Susan, opinion. I get to do
that.
Ms. Brock— Well, I think because the actual proposal is for fewer antennas and
this Board gave a negative determination of environmental significance to the
nine, I don't think that we need to go back and change the SEQR motion. I do
think that for the Special Permit Resolution we can fix the motion and say the
proposal includes attaching six panel antennas.
Chairperson Wilcox — Okay. George and Larry the changes ...
Board Members Conneman and Thayer state that the changes are fine
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Board Member Hoffmann— Maybe the minutes could reflect that the applicant
came in between the time that we voted on the SEQR motion and this one and
corrected this and that's why we have corrected it.
Chairperson Wilcox — The minutes will reflect that. That's why I wanted you to
come up and for the record state that you were here. Susan you're still looking...
Ms. Brock— I just want to make sure that the reference to the number nine was
only in one spot... and it is.
Chairperson Wilcox— Okay. Any further discussion.
The Board votes.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 - 086
Special Permit, T- Mobile Telecommunication Antennas on Water Tank
Dryden Road /Route 366, Tax Parcel No. 65A1 5.2, Planning Board,
September 5, 2006
MOTION made by Board Member Conneman, seconded by Board Member
Thayer.
WHEREAS.
1. This action is Consideration of Special Permit for the proposed wireless
telecommunication facility on the existing water tank at the Cornell University
McConville Barn, 756 Dryden Road /NYS Route 366, Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 65- 1 -5.2, Low Density Residential Zone. The proposal includes
attaching six panel antennas approximately 75 +/- feet above the base of the
existing water tank, and installing three base transmitter stations on a
concrete pad near the base of the tank. This project originally received Site
Plan Approval from the Planning Board and Special Approval from the Zoning
Board of Appeals in 2003. The Zoning Board Special Approval expired in
2005. The Telecommunications Law was updated in 2004 to require Special
Permit from the Planning Board rather than Special Approval from the Zoning
Board. Therefore, the applicant is required to obtain Special Permit for the
project. Cornell University, Owner; T- Mobile, Applicant; Matthew T. Kerwin,
Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting
as lead agency in environmental review with respect to Special Permit, has,
on September 5, 2006, made a negative determination of environmental
significance, after having reviewed and accepted as adequate a Full
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Environmental Assessment Form Part I, submitted by the applicant, and a
Part II and Visual Addendum, prepared by Town Planning staff, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on September 5, 2006, has
reviewed and accepted as adequate plans entitled "Site I.D. Number
3TOS216D, Cornell WT, 756 Dryden Road, Ithaca, NY 14853," including Title
Sheet T -1, Site Plan and Detail sheets C -1 through C -5, and Electrical Detail
sheets E1 and E2, all prepared by DDS Engineers, revised and date stamped
August 25, 2006, and other application materials.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Planning Board waives the following requirements of Section 270 -219
of the Town Code, relating to Telecommunication Facilities:
a. The dimensional standards, indicating the fall zone having a radius
equal to the height of attached antennae, pursuant to Subsection F (1),
and
b. The agreement to negotiate with subsequent applicants seeking to co-
locate telecommunication facilities on the initial applicant's structures,
pursuant to Subsection M (4).
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Special Permit, provided for in the
Town of Ithaca Code §270 -219 (Telecommunication Facilities), to allow the
proposed wireless telecommunication facility on the existing water tank at the
Cornell University McConville Barn, 756 Dryden Road /NYS Route 366, Town
of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 65- 1 -5.2, as shown on the submitted revised plans
date stamped August 25, 2006, finding that the standards of §270 -200,
Subsections A — L and §270 -219, Subsection C (1 -7) of the Town of Ithaca
Code have been met. Said Special permit is granted with the following
conditions:
a. Submission of a financial security bond in the amount of $50,000 for
removal of the telecommunications facility and property restoration as
required by Town Code Section 270- 2191, in a form acceptable to the
Attorney for the Town,
b. Submission of a copy of the negotiated lease agreement between the
applicant and the property owner (Cornell University), for the location
of telecommunication antennas on the water tank, for the approval of
the Attorney of the Town,
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c. In order to minimize potential negative aesthetic impacts, the cellular
antennas and equipment cabinets are to be the same color as the
existing water tank and additional vegetative screening in the form of
evergreens shall be planted along the north and west corners of the
proposed equipment cabinets, as indicated on the submitted plans,
and all antenna cables shall be covered with a cover that is painted to
match the water tank, and
d. The telecommunications facility shall comply with all requirements of
Section 270 -219 of the Town Code, except those requirements waived
above.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Wilcox announces the next Agenda item at 7:45 p.m.
SEQR DETERMINATION: BRAINARD 2 -LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT
132 PINE TREE ROAD
Chairperson Wilcox invites the applicant and /or agents to approach.
Chairperson Wilcox — for the record, I worked with Michael's wife Linnette until
she had their firstborn child at Claritas, that's why I was hoping to see Linnette
come back.
Michael, name and address please.
Michael Brainard, 132 Pine Tree Road.
Mr. Brainard — We are actually proposing splitting one residential parcel into two
creating a vacant second parcel to develop a residential building on. To my
knowledge...
Chairperson Wilcox — The intent is to sell the lot?
Mr. Brainard — Possibly. I am considering developing it myself.
Chairperson Wilcox — Questions with regard to the environmental review?
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Board Member Hoffmann— When you say develop it into a residential lot, do you
mean doing something to the lot other than having the. line put there to create
another lot?.
Mr. Brainard — Actually that is pretty much what we are looking at today. Is
creating a... that separate lot by itself. As far as the reference to developing it, it
would be, you know, putting, you know, a family residence.
Board Member Hoffmann— A single family residence is what you are talking
about. Are you planning on putting in an apartment in that ...
Mr. Brainard — No.
Board Member Hoffmann — It would just be for one family with no apartment?
Mr. Brainard — That's right.
Board Member Thayer— I think the table you made, Nicole, was very helpful.
Ms. Tedesci — Thank you. That was Jon's idea. I give credit where its due.
Board Member Conneman— The map was marvelous.
Ms. Tedesci - Oh, the map was me.
(laughter)
Chairperson Wilcox — While we're on the subject. Two weeks ago, when you
were not here at the meeting, we did the South Hill Business Office Campus and
there was a chart in there that you made and we found that we didn't know you
made it but we found out later and you weren't here, but thank you very much for
that one. You can't deflect this one to someone else.
Ms. Brock Well I just had a question on the SEQR Part II under Paragraph c4,
it says " a second dwelling unit on the current parcel will be permitted under
Section 270 -66b of the Town Zoning Code" and I think what that really means is
that a second dwelling unit in the current parcel be permitted as part of a two -
family dwelling. I just-Wanted to make sure that you understood that, that two
separate detached dwellings would not be permitted but a two- family dwelling
could be.
Chairperson Wilcox — That's right.
Ms. Brock— Okay, I just wanted to make sure that you understood that. And the
Planning Board was just having this discussion what would the development
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plans be for the new lot and Applicant's indicated that he's planning on putting a
single family without an apartment, but in fact anything that's permitted under the
zoning code for a lot in the Zoning District would be allowed. So you can not
condition your approval on it being only a single family.
Chairperson Wilcox - By right, he could build a two- family dwelling...
Ms. Brock- Right...
Board Member Hoffmann— I was assuming that he knew that already...
Mr. Brainard — Right, but that's not the intention.
Board Member Hoffmann... when I asked the question that I asked.
Board Member Hoffmann— And the reason I asked it is that I know that Pine Tree
Road is a very busy road and it's not going to make a huge difference but if it's a
building with two apartments in it and Mr. Brainard is not the owner, someone
else could rent it out to students... that sould be many more.
Board Member Talty — It doesn't matter though. It's irrelevant.
Board Member Hoffmann— Well in some ways ... but l think that it's preferable ..
Board Member Talty — Eva, we can't do that... right... right....
Board and staff agree they can not and it's a moot point.
Board Member Hoffmann— I suppose it is but in some ways there is some
relevance to me, on a street where there is a lot of traffic.
Mr. Walker— We could change the zoning.
Board Member Hoffmann— right.
Chairperson Wilcox — Or Eva, you could decide that the subdivision is
inappropriate for that reason, because the existing traffic on Pine Tree Road...
Board Member Hoffmann— That's not how I'm thinking... I'm just trying to find out
what the plans are.
Chairperson Wilcox — Both
dimensional requirements...
Mr. Walker— They're over size.
lots meet the existing ". both lots meet the
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Chairperson Wilcox — Fifteen thousand square feet is what's required....
Chairperson Wilcox — Any other discussion with regard to the environmental
review?
Board votes.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 -087 - SEQR
Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval, Brainard 2 -Lot Subdivision
132 Pine Tree Road, Tax Parcel 58 -2 -15, Town of Ithaca Planning Board
September 5, 2006
MOTION made by Board Member Kevin Talty, seconded by Board Member Rod
Howe
WHEREAS.
1. This is consideration of Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval for the
proposed 2 -lot subdivision located at 132 Pine Tree Road, Town of Ithaca
Tax Parcel 58 -2 -15, Medium Density Residential Zone. The proposal
involves the subdivision of the existing +/- 1.12 acre lot into two parcels .of
+/ -0.587 acres and +/ -0.533 acres, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is
acting as Lead Agency in this uncoordinated environmental review with
respect to Subdivision Approval, and
3. The Planning Board on September 5, 2006, has reviewed and accepted
as adequate a Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I, submitted by
the applicant, and Part II prepared by the Town Planning staff, a survey
map entitled "Subdivision Map, No, 132 Pine Tree Road, Town of Ithaca,
Tompkins County, New York," prepared by T.G. Miller, P.C., Engineers &
Surveyors, dated 7/25/2006, and other application materials, and
4. The Town planning staff has recommended a negative determination of
environmental significance with respect to the proposed Subdivision
Approval;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED.
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination
of environmental significance for the reasons set forth in the Environmental
Assessment Form Part 11 referenced above, in accordance with the New York
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State Environmental Quality Review Act for the above referenced action as
proposed, and, therefore, an Environmental Impact Statement will not be
required.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Wilcox — You can stay right there. We've got two of them tonight for
you. Because, unlike some of the others that we didn't have to do a SEQR but
now we've just done the environmental review. We've made the determination
there is no significant environmental impact. So now we'll move onto the Public
Hearing.
Chairperson Wilcox opens the next agenda item at 8:01 p.m. and reads the
Public Hearing announcement.
PUBLIC HEARING
Consideration of Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval for the
proposed 2-lot subdivision located at 132 Pine Tree Road, Town of Ithaca
Tax Parcel No. 58 -2-15, Medium Density Residential Zone. The proposal
involves subdividing the +/- 1.12 acre lot into two parcels with Parcel A
being +/- 25,549 square feet (containing the existing house) and Parcel B
being +/- 23,220 square feet. C. Michael Brainard & Lynette K. Dean,
Owners /Applicants.
Chairperson Wilcox — Discussion with regard to the subdivision as proposed.
There is none. Michael if you take a seat, we'll give the public a chance to voice
their opinions and concerns.
Chairperson Wilcox opens the Public Hearing at 8:02 p.m. and invites the public
to speak. There being no one, Chairperson Wilcox closes the Public Hearing at
8:02 p.m.
Mr. Kanter — Fred, do you want to just refer to the e-mail message from Hollis
Erb where she did address this...
Chairperson Wilcox — Good point. Hollis sent me an e-mail with a statement
about this particular subdivision which was provided to each of you when you
came in. (Chairperson Wilcox read the e-mail)
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I think that, as I look over at the staff, when and if a building permit is applied for
some consideration will be given to the location of the curb cut. Presumably.
Staff nods
Ms. Brock— And the sewer line.
Chairperson Wilcox — And the location of the ... the right of way of the sewer line
which goes behind the property line.
Mr. Walker— And the curb cut permit has to be issued from the County.
Chairperson Wilcox — It is a County road, Pine Tree is a County road, thank you.
Susan, changes?
Ms. Brock— I have no changes.
Board Votes
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 -088
Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval, Brainard 2 -Lot Subdivision
132 Pine Tree Road, Tax Parcel 58 -2 -15, Town of Ithaca Planning Board
September 5, 2006
MOTION made by Board Member Thayer, seconded by Board Member
Conneman.
WHEREAS.
1. This is consideration of Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval for the
proposed 2 -lot subdivision located at 132 Pine Tree Road, Town of Ithaca
Tax Parcel 58 -2 -15, Medium Density Residential Zone. The proposal
involves the subdivision of the existing +/- 1.12 acre lot into two parcels of
+/ -0.587 acres and +1-0.533 acres, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board,
acting as lead agency in environmental review with respect to Subdivision
Approval, has on September 5, 2006, made a negative determination of
environmental significance, after having reviewed and accepted as
adequate a Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I, submitted by
the applicant, and Part II prepared by the Town Planning staff, and
3. The Planning Board on September 5, 2006, has reviewed and accepted
as adequate a Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I, submitted by
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the applicant, and Part II prepared by the Town Planning staff, a survey
map entitled "Subdivision Map, No. 132 Pine Tree Road, Town of Ithaca,
Tompkins County, New York," prepared by T.G. Miller, P.C., Engineers &
Surveyors, dated 7/25/2006, and other application materials;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED.
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain
requirements for Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval, as shown on
the Preliminary and Final Subdivision Checklists, having determined from
the materials presented that such waiver will result in neither a significant
alteration of the purpose of subdivision control nor the policies enunciated
or implied by the Town Board, and
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final Subdivision
Approval for the proposed 2 -lot subdivision located at 132 Pine Tree
Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel 58 -2 -15, Medium Density Residential
Zone, as shown on the survey map entitled "Subdivision Map, No. 132
Pine Tree Road, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York," prepared
by T.G. Miller, P.C., Engineers & Surveyors, dated 7/25/2006, subject to
the following conditions:
a. Prior to the signing of the plat by the Chairman of the Planning
Board, submission to the Town Engineer the deeds for Parcels A
and B, both of which must reference the existing Town sanitary
sewer easement, and
b. Submission for signing by the Chairman of the Planning Board of
an original or mylar copy of the final subdivision plat, and three
dark -lined prints, prior to filing with the .Tompkins County Clerk's
Office, and submission of a receipt of filing to the Town of Ithaca
Planning Department prior to issuance of any building permit on
Parcel B.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
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Chairperson Wilcox — So Michael your job is to make sure that the appropriate
number of copies are here. They have to be signed before you go to the County.
Thank you gentlemen.
Chairperson Wilcox announces the next Agenda item.
SEQR
Determination for the proposed Confection Connection located at 823
Danby Road.
Chairperson Wilcox — One or all of the Rogan's and /or their agents are welcome
to come forward.
Unknown — Good evening.
Chairperson Wilcox — Can I interrupt you for a minute. We will not be
considering the Big AI's /Manley Mart item this evening. We have an Agenda
Item coming up at 8:15 p.m. which is ... has to do with the Big AI's now Manly
Mart, The Applicant has requested a postponement to a later date. It's not ... we
are not exactly sure when but my guess at this time would be the first meeting in
October. Notice would go back out, we will re- publish the Public Hearing. I
believe that this Board will probably cancel its meeting scheduled for the 19th and
as a result that particular application will come back before this Board in the first
meeting October, the first Tuesday. That's my guess at this point, we should
know better at the end of this meeting when we get to it. So, for Mr. Auble's
benefit and sir I am not sure why you're here, but if you are waiting for that...
Unknown — I am a new Alternate Board
wanted to see how things ran...
Member on the Zoning Board and I just
Chairperson Wilcox — Very good. Thank you for being here. I wanted to get that
out of the way. If you will, please start again.
Kevin Sullivan, 415 North Albany Street
Chairperson Wilcox — If you could give us a brief overview.
Mr. Sullivan — Proposing operating a take -out style delivery service out of a
existing location at 821 Danby Road, I think it is at 823 on here which is the
address of the Plaza, I have found out since then that the actual address is 821
Danby Road. Essentially we are trying to change a storage space, which is
currently used as a storage space, into a small bakery which will primarily
provide desserts for delivery.
Board Member Mitrano — Any thoughts of adding bread to that?
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(Laughter)
Chairperson Wilcox — Speaking as a South Hill resident.
Board Member Mitrano — A nice loaf of French bread...
Mr. Sullivan — I can refer you to a woman who is doing an excellent job in her
new bread venture, but myself, give me about 10 years and maybe. Takes very
tuned skills to make a good bread.
Chairperson Wilcox — This is the facility on the side of the building that has been
a used book store, sort of at the end of the year occasionally. Other assorted
purposes.
Board and audience member determine it is not, it is the other side.
Chairperson Wilcox — Questions.... Delivery vehicles will be entering and leaving
the site as they do now for pizza delivery?
Mr. Sullivan — That is correct.
Chairperson Wilcox — What do you see as your primary delivery area?
Mr. Sullivan — Ithaca College, Cornell as well, downtown Ithaca. I don't go much
further than that because of the gas. prices.
Chairperson Wilcox — And students can get sweets at 10 o'clock at night or
11 o'clock.... What's your idea of how this work out?
Mr. Sullivan — Well the theory is that after you've eaten dinner and your in the
mood for dessert, if you don't have something around and you don't feel like
baking and a lot of the time people don't feel like making a dessert but they have
a craving for one, so the idea is that I don't have much competition in this area as
there are 20 something pizzerias in the area but nobody provides dessert.
Board Member Mitrano — Here here. You will be very successful.
Chairperson Wilcox — Will you be baking in the facility?
Mr. Sullivan — Yes I will.
Board Member Mitrano — Especially if you put in bread.
(laughter)
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Chairperson Wilcox -- The facility next to Italian Carry-out is open.
Board Member Mitrano — Oh don't worry... I have already spoken to the
gentleman about his olive oil selection.
(laughter)
Chairperson Wilcox — Alright, but there is no bread available there?
Board Member Mitrano — The usual selections ... but no fresh made, puffy....
Mr. Sullivan —You ) re the 3`d person who's asked me so there's obviously a
market for it.
Board Member Mitrano — Why don't you hook up with this woman and have her
deliver some there. .
Chairperson Wilcox — Do you miss Clever Hans or ....
Board Member Mitrano — Very much so.
Chairperson Wilcox — Susan.....
Ms. Brock— I have a question. Mr. Sullivan's letter say the only exterior
construction will be running duct work for the oven head system and mounting a
mushroom fan on the rear side of the 18 ... I'm sorry... 16 foot roof. The SEQR
resolution says... Except for a new awning over the door, there are no exterior
changes to the site or building proposed. And I wasn't sure how this duct work
and mushroom fan installation fit in with that. Are the duct work and fan going to
be exterior changes?
Mr. Sullivan — The mushroom fan will be an exterior change on the rear side of
the building where there are already multiple vents running through the roof.
Ms. Brock— So I think we need to change the SEQR resolution to say; Except for
a new awning over the door and installation of a fan on the rear side of the roof,
there are no exterior changes to the site or building proposed. Would that be a
correct statement?
Mr. Sullivan — That's correct.
Chairperson Wilcox — Tracy and Rod, those changes acceptable?
(yes)
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Board Member Talty - What are your hours going to be?
Mr. Sullivan — Hours are planned 11:00 am to 2:00 am seven days a week.
may end up closing earlier or opening later depending on how I hold up with that
kind of schedule.
Board Member Talty — How about minimum order?
Mr. Sullivan — Minimum order ... I actually don't have one, we toss on a small
delivery charge of a dollar for any order under $101
Chairperson Wilcox — What hours is Rogan's currently open?
(Audience member states approximately 7 am to 2 am)
Chairperson Wilcox — So you would close at 2:00 the same time the pizza
facility ... the convenience store with pizza currently closes.
Ms. Brock— We should also change Part II of the EAF ... Section II says no
exterior changes are proposed to the building.... Add the text except for a new
awning and installation of a new fan on the roof.
Board votes.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 — 089 - SEQR
Preliminary & Final Site Plan Approval, The Confection Connection, 823
Danby Road, Tax Parcel No. 404-2, Town of Ithaca Planning Board,
September 5, 2006
MOTION made by Board Member Mitrano, seconded by Board Member Howe.
WHEREAS:
1. This action is consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for
the proposed "The Confection Connection" to be located in an existing
building at 823 Danby Road ( Rogan's Corner), Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel
No. 40 -4 -2, Neighborhood Commercial Zone. The proposal involves
converting the former storage space ( +/- 806 sq. ft.) into a dessert delivery
service for items such as cookies, brownies and ice cream. Except for a
new awning over the door and installation of a fan on the rear side of the
roof, there are no exterior changes to the site or building proposed. This
would be a modification of the site plan previously approved for the
Rogan's Corner development
Sullivan, Applicant, and
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James & Julie Rogan, Owners; Kevin
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is
acting as Lead Agency in environmental review with respect to Site Plan
Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, on September 5, 2006, has reviewed and accepted as
adequate a Short Environmental Assessment Form (EAF) Part I, submitted by
the applicant, and Part II prepared by Town Planning staff, a letter from the
applicant (August 3, 2006), and other application materials, and
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative determination of
environmental significance with respect to the proposed Site Plan
Approval;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED.
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination
of environmental significance based on the information in the EAF Part I and for
the reasons set forth in the EAF Part II in accordance with the New York State
Environmental Quality Review Act and Chapter. 148 Environmental Quality
Review of the Town of Ithaca Code for the above referenced action as proposed,
and, therefore, neither a Full Environmental Assessment Form nor an
Environmental Impact Statement will be required.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Wilcox announces the next Agenda item and reads the Public
Announcement.
PUBLIC HEARING
Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the proposed
"The Confection Connection" to be located in an existing building at 823
Danby Road ( Rogan's Corner), Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 404-2,
Neighborhood Commercial Zone. The proposal involves converting the
former storage space ( +/- 806 sq. ft.) into a dessert delivery service for
items such as cookies, brownies and ice cream. Except for a new awning
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over the door, there are no exterior changes to the site or building
proposed. James & Julie Rogan, Owners; Kevin Sullivan, Applicant.
Chairperson Wilcox — Questions for the applicant with regard to the Site Plan.
Chairperson Wilcox opens the Public Hearing at 8:15 pm. There being no one,
Chairperson Wilcox closes the public hearing at 8:15 p.m.
Chairperson Wilcox — Discussion?
Board Member Mitrano — All set.
Chairperson Wilcox — Would someone like to move the motion as drafted?
Board Member Thayer — I will.
Chairperson Wilcox — So moved by Larry. Seconded by the Chair. Susan?
Ms. Brock — Make the same changes before in the first whereas clause so that
the sentence reads, "except for a new awning over the door, installation of a new
fan on the roof, there are no exterior changes to the site or building proposed."
Chairperson Wilcox — Are those changes...
Board Member Hoffmann — Oh. I just realized I changed the address, too, to
821 ... from 823 to 821. 1 did that in the SEQR, too, and I forgot to bring it up
when we were talking about it. Isn't that appropriate?
Chairperson Wilcox — Mr. Rogan? Can
second? We are going to deal with this
brought it up. Thank you for coming up.
you are here.
you come up and help us out for a
address issue because Mr. Sullivan
I need a name and address now that
James Rogan, 14 Ladoga Park Road, Lansing New York
Mr. Rogan - James Rogan, 14 Ladoga Park Road, Lansing New York.
Chairperson Wilcox — What is the address of your facility known as Rogan 's
Corners?
Mr. Rogan — Well, it was originally 823. to 825, but according to Kevin, they have
changed ... the Post Office changed it from 821 to 825.
Chairperson Wilcox — Okay.
Mr. Kanter — Is the 821 assigned to
particular building in the development?
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a particular part of the development? A
Mr. Rogan — I can't tell you. I think what they did is they took the Laundromat
and his building... there are three buildings there. They changed the address on
that particular building. The restaurant was 823 and the convenience store was
825: 1 think what the Post Office is when he went down they changed that
building to 821.
Board Member Mitrano — So that is interesting. The United States Post Office is
what controls addresses? Is that how addresses are assigned?
Mr. Walker — It is done in conjunction with the Code Enforcement Offices
because addresses... house numbers are generally based on the number of
numbers you can get in a block. So you may have odd on one side and even on
the other is normal and usually you might skip a series. You might have 1, 59 91 if
you have wider lots in case a 2- family home is put or something you can get an
address in there. This is kind of a weird configuration.
Chairperson Wilcox — Lets just step back quickly. One, is there a flaw in the
public hearing notice because this says 823? 1 don't think so. It. identifies it as
Rogan's Corner. 823 is one of the addresses in the range associated with it. I
don't think that we have a problem with the public hearing notice. Susan?
Ms. Brock — I agree.
Chairperson Wilcox — Okay. Having said that, then the next question is, what
address do we want to reflect in the resolutions? The understanding now is that
this particular building will be given the number 821 and that is new information.
Previously the three buildings were 823 — 825.
Mr. Rogan — Correct.
Chairperson Wilcox — Okay.
Board Member Hoffmann — But also the application says 823.
Ms. Brock — I think everything says 823.
Mr. Walker — But it also indicates that it is a single tax parcel.
properties are on one tax parcel.
Mr. Rogan — That is correct.
Mr. Walker — That is really the key identifier as far as the site.
All these
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Chairperson Wilcox - That's right. The tax parcel is correct in the public hearing
notice.
Board Member Mitrano — If it were up to me I would just put parens, "according to
applicant, address is newly assigned as ", close parens and leave it at that.
[laughter]
Board Member Mitrano — Because all we have, with all due respect, Mr. Sullivan
is just the allegation that it has been changed. We don't know any more. Why
don't we just put down what we know in this hearing...
Chairperson Wilcox — Don't you love lawyers? This is a technical thing we just
go into. We just got to work our way through it, that's all.
Mr. Walker — Basically you are going to have four businesses on this site now.
Correct?
Mr. Rogan — Correct. We had four businesses there at one time.
Mr. Walker — One time... but then it was sort of combined into... or one was...
Chairperson Wilcox — We had the hair salon there.
Mr. Rogan — Tracy's Hair Salon was there.
Mr. Walker — Did it have a common address with one of the others?
Mr. Rogan — It was the same, 823 -825.
Mr. Walker — I think the Post Office is trying to identify individual properties so
they can... (not audible)...
Chairperson Wilcox - ...individual units. Susan...
Mr. Kanter — Let's call it 821 based on the new information we have?
Board Member Talty — Yeah, that's fine.
Chairperson Wilcox — We gotta go back to the SEQR motion, then. That's the
only thing. We have to go back to the SEQR motion.
Ms. Brock — Right.
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Board Member Mitrano — Call it 825.
Ms. Brock — We should revise the SEQR motion before we vote on the
resolution.
Chairperson Wilcox — Absolutely. Should we withdraw the motion in front of us?
Yes.
Ms. Brock —You could just...
Mr. Kanter — Table it.
Chairperson Wilcox — Table it?
Ms. Brock — Lay it on the table and bring it back.
Chairperson Wilcox — So we'll table the motion, we'll go back and reconsider the
SEQR.
Chairperson Wilcox — Do we have to...
Ms. Brock — You have to vote on tabling the motion..
Mr. Kanter — I don't think you want to say you want to reconsider the SEQR, I
think you want to say you want to amend the resolution for the correct address.
Ms. Brock — But I think you should vote on tabling the other motion first.
Board Member Talty — I make the motion to table...
Board Member Mitrano — I second that motion.
Ms. Brock — I think Larry already did and Fred already seconded it, right?
Chairperson Wilcox — Well, we have a motion and a second... have fun with this
one. Larry moved the original motion and I seconded it. Who has moved the
motion to table it? Kevin has moved that we table the motion and who seconded
it?
Board Member Mitrano — I seconded it.
Chairperson Wilcox — You seconded it. Tracy seconded it. All in favor?
Board — Aye.
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Chairperson Wilcox — Any opposed? Good. There are no abstentions.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 — 090
TABLE: PRELIMINARY AND FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE
CONFECTION CONNECTION, 823 DANBY ROAD, PLANNING BOARD
MEETING, SEPTEMBER 5, 2006
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board has Brought Back to
the Table Agenda Item Preliminary and Final Site Plan for the Confection
Connection at 823 Danby Road.
MOTION made by Board Member Talty, seconded by Board Member Howe.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Board Member Thayer — It would have been easier to withdraw.
Chairperson Wilcox — Now we will go back to SEQR...
Board Member Conneman — Now, Fred, wait a minute. If you table something,
that means you have got to have three - quarters of the people to bring it back. So
you always postpone or withdraw, you don't table according to parliamentary
rules.
Ms. Brock — Well, you've done it.
Board Member Conneman — You get yourself in trouble sometimes on that.
Seriously.
Board Member Mitrano — Good point.
Mr. Kanter — Hopefully that won't happen.
Board Member Conneman — Its okay because no one is going to ... (not
audible)...
Chairperson Wilcox — Not what we want to do it...
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Ms. Brock — Move to revise the SEQR resolution.
Chairperson Wilcox — Now we will move to revise the SEQR resolution and
change the address from 823 to 821. So moved by the Chair. Seconded by
Kevin Talty.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 — 091
AMEND PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 -089, SEQR DETERMINATION: THE
CONFECTION CONNECTION, 823 DANBY ROAD, PLANNING BOARD
SEPTEMBER 5, 2006
MOTION made by Chairperson Wilcox, seconded by Board Member Talty.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning Board Resolution No. 2006 -089 entitled
SEQR Determination: The Confection Connection be revised to reflect the
address change of: replace the existing 823 Danby Road with 821 Danby Road
as the true postal address as expressed to the Applicant, Kevin Sullivan, by the
United States Post Office.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Board Member Hoffmann — I'm sorry I brought it up.
[laughter]
Board Member Conneman — Its appropriate.
Chairperson Wilcox — Its appropriate. All those in favor of revising the SEQR
motion please signal by saying, "aye "?
Board — Aye.
Chairperson Wilcox — All those opposed? Anybody abstains? So moved. We
have now revised the SEQR motion to read 821 Danby Road. All right. Kevin
moves to reconsider...
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ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 - 092
SEAR — REVISED, Preliminary & Final Site Plan Approval, The Confection
Connection, 821 Danby Road, Tax. Parcel No. 40 -4 -2, Town of Ithaca
Planning Board September 5, 2006
MOTION made by Board Member Mitrano, seconded by Board Member Howe.
WHEREAS:
2. This action is consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for
the proposed "The Confection Connection" to be located in an existing
building at 821 Danby Road ( Rogan's Corner), Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel
No. 40 -4 -2, Neighborhood Commercial Zone. The proposal involves
converting the former storage space ( +/- 806 sq. ft.) into a dessert delivery
service for items such as cookies, brownies and ice cream. Except for a
new awning over the door and installation of a fan on the rear side of the
roof, there are no exterior changes to the site or building proposed. This
would be a modification of the site plan previously approved for the
Rogan's Corner development. James & Julie Rogan, Owners; Kevin
Sullivan, Applicant, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is
acting as Lead Agency in environmental review with respect to Site Plan
Approval, and
4. The Planning Board, on September 5, 2006, has reviewed and accepted as
adequate a Short Environmental Assessment Form (EAF) Part I, submitted by
the applicant, and Part II prepared by Town Planning staff, a letter from the
applicant (August 3, 2006), and other application materials, and
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative determination of
environmental significance with respect to the proposed Site Plan
Approval;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED.
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination
of environmental significance based on the information in the EAF Part I and for
the reasons set forth in the EAF Part II in accordance with the New York State
Environmental Quality Review Act and Chapter 148 Environmental Quality
Review of the Town of Ithaca Code for the above referenced action as proposed,
and, therefore, neither a Full Environmental Assessment Form nor an
Environmental Impact Statement will be required.
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A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Ms. Brock - Well to take off the table...
Chairperson Wilcox — To take it off- the table and reconsider the motion for site
plan approval. Do we have a second for that? Rod Howe seconds that. All
those in favor?
Ms. Brock — Wait. Wait. Lets make it clear that in addition to the other change I
gave that we are also changing the address from 823 and...
Chairperson Wilcox — Wait a minute. We can't do that yet because we haven't
voted to consider it yet.
Ms. Brock — Oh, I'm sorry.
Chairperson Wilcox — We are voting to bring it back on the table.
Ms. Brock —Okay. I'm sorry.
Chairperson Wilcox Kevin, you moved the motion and Rod seconded. This is
to untable ... to bring it off the table. All those in favor?
Board - Aye.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 - 093
BRING BACK TO THE TABLE AGENDA ITEM 7; PRELIMINARY AND FINAL
SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THE CONFECTION CONNECTION, 823 DANBY
ROAD, PLANNING BOARD MEETING, SEPTEMBERER 5, 2006
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board has Brought Back to
the Table Agenda Item Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval: The Confection
Connection at 823.Danby Road.
MOTION made by Board Member Talty, seconded by Board Member Mitrano.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
l
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AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Chairperson Wilcox — Anybody opposed? There are no abstentions. Thank you.
All right. Now we are back to the motion moved by Larry and seconded by the
Chair.
Board Member Thayer — Okay.
Chairperson Wilcox — Yes, one change that I am aware of.
Ms. Brock — Well, there were two. So we are changing the 823 address to 821
and also saying, "except for the awning over the door and installation of a new
fan on the roof'.
Chairperson Wilcox — Okay. Larry, is that change acceptable?
Board Member Thayer — Yeah.
Chairperson Wilcox — Its acceptable to me. You wonder why things take so long.
Board Member Thayer — Next time we'll just withdraw.
Chairperson Wilcox — Is there any further discussion? There being none, all
those in favor please signal by saying aye.
Board — Aye.
Chairperson Wilcox — Anybody opposed? Nobody, is opposed. There are no
abstentions. The motion is passed.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 -094
Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval, The Confection Connection, 821
Danby Road, Tax Parcel No. 404-2, Town of Ithaca Planning Board,
September 5, 2006
MOTION made by Board Member Thayer, seconded by Chair Person Wilcox.
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WHEREAS:
1. This action is consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for
the proposed "The Confection Connection" to be located in an existing
building at 821 Danby Road ( Rogan's Corner), Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel
No. 40 -4 -2, Neighborhood Commercial Zone. The proposal involves
converting the former storage space ( +/- 806 sq. ft.) into a dessert delivery
service for items such as cookies, brownies and ice cream. Except for a
new awning over the door and installation of a new fan on the roof, there
are no exterior changes to the site or building proposed. This would be a
modification of the site plan previously approved for the Rogan's Corner
development. James & Julie Rogan, Owners; Kevin Sullivan,. Applicant,
and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board,
acting as lead agency in environmental review with respect to Site Plan
Approval has, on September 5, 2006, made a negative determination of
environmental significance, after having reviewed and accepted as
adequate a Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I, submitted by
the applicant, and a Part II prepared by Town Planning staff, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on September 5, 2006, has
reviewed and accepted as adequate, a letter provided by the applicant
(dated August 3, 2006), a floor plan and key to the equipment, and a map
showing the location of proposed space (titled "Boundary Map
8/3/06), and other application materials,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements
for Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval, as shown on the Preliminary and
Final Site Plan Checklists, having determined from the materials presented
that such waiver will result in neither a significant alteration of the purpose of
site plan control nor the policies enunciated or implied by the.Town Board,
and
2. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final
Site Plan Approval for the proposed "The Confection Connection" located at
821 Danby Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 40 -4 -2, Neighborhood
Commercial Zone, as described in a letter provided by the applicant (dated
August 3, 2006), a floor plan and key to the equipment, and a map showing
the location of proposed space (titled "Boundary Map ", updated 8/3/06), and
other application materials.
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A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Board Member Mitrano — Yeah.
Chairperson Wilcox — Thank you very much. Don't you just want to tell Kevin to
keep his mouth shut next time?
[laughter]
Chairperson Wilcox — I thank you for bringing the address issue to our attention.
It's just that the remedy was ... the remedy was ... (not audible)... For the record,
the next item this evening is consideration of modification of special permit
approval for the Big AI's convenience store, now known as the Manley's Mighty
Mart. At the request of the applicant and or their agent, they have requested that
we not consider this item this evening as no one will be able to attend to
represent the convenience store.
Mr. Kanter — That is correct and I did speak with the representative on the phone
and told them that we may not get to it until October 3` and that is fine with them
and they would be available for October 3rd if that is when we decide to schedule
it for.
Board Member Conneman — Before we cancel the October 19th meeting, I have
lots of things to do beside go to meetings, but the question is, will that be a long
discussion that we should have in a separate meeting and are there other issues
that this board wants to discuss on the 19th because we end up sometimes
crowding the agenda in other meetings when we shuffle things around. It seems
to me that there are a couple of things that we could talk about. One is the
training that supposedly the State Legislature has said we must do as a
Planning Board and the second thing is I keep hearing little items about how the
Town Board perceives the Planning Board and whether think there are some
items that they should be doing that we do. It seems to me that that is a very
serious thing and I don't know what is going on, but you know, I know a lot of
people who are saying... is it really true. You don't have to comment, but it
seems to me that maybe this is a meeting where we could catch up on a lot of
other things. Yes?
Planning Board
September 5, 2006
Final - Page 50
Mr. Kanter — Could I respond to George's:..) think they were questions, weren't
they?
Chairperson Wilcox — Yes. Go ahead.
Mr. Kanter — Two points. One, the Governor has not yet signed the bill on
training.
Board Member Conneman — Okay.
Mr. Kanter — There is no indication that he won't, but he hasn't yet.
Board Member Conneman — I didn't know that.
Mr. Kanter — I would say that is premature to discuss it because it may or may
not happen, but I'm sure it will, but we can't prejudge that. As to the second
point, all I would say is the Town Board is actually trying to schedule a session
that would include speakers from the Department of State, which would be
regarding the Town Board's role in planning and zoning matters. That ... we are
trying to work on scheduling a date. We are having some difficulty in getting a
date, but we think it is going to be in November, but I will definitely let you know
when we have a definite date, but that's pretty much... it sounds .like the kinds of
things they would be discussing at that session. We will certainly invite not only
Town Board, but Planning Board and Zoning Board members and municipal
officials from all of the other towns and villages throughout the County. In fact,
that will probably cosponsored by the County Planning Department as well as the
Cortland County Planning Department. So it will be kind of more of a regional... it
won't be just the Town of Ithaca issues, it will be a wide range of different
subjects, but basically focusing on what the Town Board's roles and
responsibilities are in planning and zoning matters. I think that is going to cover
a lot of things that you were mentioning.
Chairperson Wilcox — Why is the Town Board interested in such a discussion,
presentation?
Mr. Kanter — For educational purposes.
Board Member Conneman — Educational purposes? Very clever. Thank you,
Jonathan.
Chairperson Wilcox — Thank you, Jonathan.
Mr. Kanter — You are welcome.
Planning Board
September 5, 2006
Final - Page 51
Board Member Conneman — My basic question is, is this going to be a long
discussion with Big AI's or whatever it is called now?
Mr. Kanter — Well, I was
tonight about it because
imposing restrictions on
and if we do that, first of
to seek advice from the
might actually expedite
actually discuss it. So th(d
going to ask Susan if she wanted to discuss with you
there are some questions about case law dealing with
hours of operation in conjunction with special permits
all, we could do that if you wanted to in closed session
Attorney for the Town and secondly, if we did that, it
some of the conversation at the meeting where we
)t's for your consideration. Otherwise...
Chairperson Wilcox — Do I need to do anything official with regard to the
scheduled public hearing? Have I sufficiently, for the record, stated that the
applicant has requested that it be postponed to a later date?
Ms. Brock — I think that is sufficient.
Chairperson Wilcox — Okay. Jonathan, go ahead.
Mr. Kanter — We have no other actions scheduled for the September 1 g'h
meeting and as of right now, there are very few items confirmed for October 3rd
Unless there are any updates that you found today, Mike, in looking through the
schedule.
Mr. Smith — There was one lot line modification that was on my desk today that
probably is not on your sheet yet.
Chairperson Wilcox — Is that a lot line modification for the Planning Board or the
Director of Engineering?
Mr. Smith — It has been submitted as a Planning Board project.
Chairperson Wilcox — Okay.
Mr. Kanter — So other than that, nothing else is even confirmed for October 3rd
yet. So we are not going to have a long agenda.
Board Member Conneman — I was just asking.
Chairperson Wilcox — So the question is, as a reasonable question, do we want
to spend some time hearing from the Town Attorney on some of the case law on
the issue of hours of operation?
Board Member Talty — Now or at a different meeting?
Planning Board
September 5, 2006
Final - Page 52
Chairperson Wilcox — Either now or... if we do it now, then...
Board Member Thayer — Then we don't have to do it then.
Chairperson Wilcox - ...we don't have to do it then. It is up to this board. If we
do it now we may revisit it in 4 weeks anyways. I mean we all have seen the
memo that Susan wrote.
Board Member Talty — I don't believe I saw it.
Ms. Brock — I sent it to Fred and Jonathan.
Mr. Kanter — We did not copy it or forward it to other board members.
Board Member Hoffmann — But we got something by email recently.
Board Member Thayer — Yeah, we did.
Mr. Kanter — You did get an email from me saying that the applicant had request
postponement.
Board Member Conneman — It seems to me...
Board Member Hoffmann — That was here tonight on the table. There was an
email, too, from you Susan, that was about something else.
Board Member Conneman — It seems to me we make better decisions when we
have some time to think about it rather than...
Board Member Howe — Is it pretty straight forward, what the case law has to say?
Ms. Brock — I think we should probably discuss this in closed session.
Board Member Howe — I'm willing...
Board Member Hoffmann — I'm willing to do it now. It is early and it would be
better probably to cancel a meeting than to have a meeting for something we
could do now.
Board Member Howe — Is it something we can do in like half an hour?
Ms. Brock — Yes.
Mr. Kanter — Or less.
Planning Board
September 5, 2006
Final - Page 53
Ms. Brock — It will just be closed session to seek advise of counsel. So you can
control how long that goes.
Board Member Talty — So why don't we do that right now.
Chairperson Wilcox — As Chair, I move that this board go into Executive
Session...
Ms. Brock — Closed session.
Chairperson Wilcox — That we move into closed session for the purpose of
receiving advise of our counsel. I need a second.
Board Member Conneman — Second.
Chairperson Wilcox — Seconded by George Conneman. All those in favor?
Tracy's not here. All those in favor please signal by saying aye?
Chairperson Wilcox, Board Member Hoffmann, Board Member Conneman,
Board Member Thayer, Board Member Howe, Board Member Talty — Aye.
Chairperson Wilcox — Anybody opposed? No one is opposed. There are no
abstentions. Susan?
The Planning Board entered into closed session. Upon motion by Board Member
Thayer, seconded by Board Member Talty, the board returned to regular. session.
ADOPTED. RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 — 095
ENTER CLOSED SESSION TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING
LIMITING HOURS OF OPERATION, PLANNING BOARD, SEPTEMBER 5,
2006
BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca enter into
closed session at 8:20 p.m. to receive legal advice regarding limiting hours of
operations of a business.
MOTION made by Chair Person Wilcox, seconded by Board Member
Conneman.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Planning Board
September 5, 2006
Final - Page 54
Motion carried unanimously.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 — 096
RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION, PLANNING BOARD, SEPTEMBERS, 2006
MOTION made by Chairperson Wilcox, seconded by Board Member Talty.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board return to regular
session at 8:45 p.m.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSTENTIONS: None
Motion carried unanimously.
Board Member Talty — I will not be here for the October meeting
Chicago.
Board Member Thayer — The first one?
Board Member Talty — The first one.
MINUTES OF AUGUST 15, 2006
I will bein
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 -097, APPROVAL OF
MINUTES: AUGUST 15, 2006
MOTION by Chairperson Wilcox, seconded by Board Member Thayer.
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board does hereby approve and adopts the
August 15, 2006 minutes as the official minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning
Board for the said meeting as presented.
The vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Conneman, Thayer, Talty, Mitrano and Howe
NAYS: None.
ABSTAIN: Hoffmann.
Planning Board
September 5, 2006
Final - Page 55
The motion was carried.
OTHER BUSINESS
The board considered cancellation of the September 19th Planning
meeting. Board Member Thayer moved to cancel the meeting and
Member Talty seconded. Board cancelled September 19th Planning
Meeting.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION: PB RESOLUTION NO. 2006 — 098
CANCELATION OF THE SCHEDULED SEPTEMBER 19, 2006 PLANNING
BOARD MEETING
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board cancel its Regular
Meeting scheduled for September 19, 2006.
MOTION made by Board Member Thayer, seconded by Board Member Talty.
A vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Mitrano, Thayer, Howe and Talty
NAYS: None
ABSENT: None
Motion carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion, Chairperson Wilcox
Paulette Neilsen
Deputy Town Clerk
adjourns the meeting at 8:55 p.m
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
215 North Tioga Street,
Ithaca, New York 14850
Tuesday, Septtember 5, 2006
AGENDA I.
7:00 P.M. Persons to be heard (no more than. -five minutes).
7:05 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of a Recommendation to the Zoning Board of
Appeals regarding sign variances for the proposed replacement sign for the St. Catherine
of Siena Church, 302 St. Catherine Circle, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 71 -1 -10, .
Medium Density.Residential Zone. The proposal includes replacing the existing 24 .
square foot, six -foot tall sign with a new +/- 32 square foot, seven -foot tall sign for the
church. St. Catherine of Siena Church, Owner; Patricia Cote, Applicant.,
7:15 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of a Recommendation to the Zoning Board of .
Appeals regarding sign variances for the proposed installation of one sign on each parcel
for The Overlook at West Hill complex, located at the intersection on Trumansburg Road
and West Hill Circle, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.'s 24 -4 -14.23 and 24 -4- 14.24,
Multiple Residence: The proposal includes installing two +/- 28 square foot signs at the
entrance from Trumansburg Road. Overlook at West Hill LP, Owner; Stacey Whitney,
Agent.
7:30 P.M. SEQR Determination: Telecommunication Facility, 756 Dryden Road.
7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration'of Special Permit for the proposed wireless
telecommunication facility on the existing water tank at the McConville Barn of Cornell
University, 756 Dryden Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No, 65- 1 -5.2, Low Density
Residential Zone. The project involves installing 9 panel antennas on the walkway
handrail of the existing water tank and 3 base transmitter stations on a concrete pad near
the base of the tank. This project originally received Site Plan Approval from the
Planning Board and Special Approval from the Zoning Board of Appeals in 2003. The
Zoning Board Special Approval expired in 2005. The Telecommunications Law was
updated in 2004 to require Special Permit from the Planning Board, rather than Special
Approval from the Zoning Board. The applicant is therefore required to obtain Special
Permit from the Planning Board for the project. Cornell University, Owner; T- Mobile,
Applicant; Matthew T. Kerwin, Agent,
7:45 P.M. SEQR Determination: Brainard 2 -Lot Subdivision, 132 Pine Tree Road.
7 :45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval for
the proposed 2 -lot subdivision located at 132 Pine Tree Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel
No. 58 -2 -15, Medium Density Residential Zone. The proposal involves subdividing the
+/- 1.12 acre lot into two parcels with Parcel A being +/- 25,549 square feet (containing
the existing house) and Parcel B being +/- 23,220 square feet. C. Michael Brainard &
Lynette K. Dean, Owners /Applicants.
8:00 P.M. SEQR Determination: The Confection Connection, 823 .Danby Road.
8:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the
proposed "The Confection Connection" to be located in an existing building at 823
Danby Road (Rogan's Corner), Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 40 -4 -2, Neighborhood
Commercial Zone. The proposal involves converting the former storage space ( +/- 806
sq. ft.) into a dessert deliveryy service for items such as cookies, brownies and. ice cream.
Except for a new awning over the door, there are no exterior changes to the site or
building proposed. James & Julie Rogan, Owners; Kevin Sullivan, Applicant. .
8:15 P.M
8:15 P.M.
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SEQR Determination: Manley's Mighty -Mart, 1103 Danby Road.
PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration to modify a Special Permit Approval for the Big
Al's Convenience Store (Manley's Mighty -Mart) located at 1103 Danby Road, Town of
Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 43- 2 -2.2, Vehicle Fuel and Repair Zone. The proposal involves
modifying the previously granted approval to allow the store to operate 24 hours per day,
7 days per week. A Special Approval was granted by the Zoning Board of Appeals for
the convenience store on January 14, 1998, which restricted the hours of operation to
6:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m., Friday and Saturday, and 6:00 a.m. to midnight, Sunday through
Thursday. Pursuant to the current Town of Ithaca Code, Section 270 -138, convenience
stores with gasoline sales are now regulated.by Special Permit from the Planning Board,
Manley's Mighty -Mart, LLC, Owner /Applicant; Dwight R. Ball, Esq., Agent.
Persons to be heard (continued from beginning of meeting if necessary).
Approval of Minutes: August 15, 2006.
Other Business:
Adjournment.
Jonathan Kanter, AICP
Director of Planning
273 -1747
NOTE: IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD IS UNABLE TO ATTEND, PLEASE NOTIFY
SANDY POLCE AT 273 -17470
(A quorum of four (4) members is necessary to conduct Planning Board business.)
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS
Tuesday, September 5, 2006
By direction of the Chairperson of the Planning Board, NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that Public Hearings
will be held by the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca. on Tuesday, September 5, 2006; .at 215 North Tioga
Street,. Ithaca, N.Y., at the following times and on the following matters:
7:05 P.M. Consideration of a Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding sign
variances for the proposed replacement sign for the St. Catherine of Siena Church, 302
St. Catherine Circle, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 71 -I -10, Medium Density
Residential Zone. The proposal includes replacing the existing 24 square foot, six -foot
tall sign with a new +/- 32 square foot, seven -foot tall sign for the church. St. Catherine
of Siena Church, Owner; Patricia Cote, Applicant,
7:15 P.M. Consideration of a Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding sign
variances for the proposed installation of one sign on each parcel for The Overlook at
West Hill complex, located at the intersection on Trumansburg Road and West Hill
Circle, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.'s 24 -4 -14.23 and 24 -4- 14.24, Multiple Residence.
The proposal includes installing two +/- 28 square foot signs at the entrance from
Trumansburg Road. Overlook at West Hill LP, Owner; Stacey Whitney, Agent.
7:30 P.M. Consideration of Special Permit for the proposed wireless telecommunication facility on
the existing water tank at the McConville .Barn of Cornell University, 756 Dryden Road, .
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 65- 1 -5.2, Low Density Residential Zone. The project
involves installing 9 panel antennas on.the walkway handrail of the existing water tank
and 3 base transmitter stations on a concrete pad near the base of the tank.. This project
originally received Site Plan Approval from the Planning Board and Special Approval
from the Zoning Board of Appeals in 2003. The Zoning Board Special Approval expired
in 2005. The Telecommunications Law was updated in 2004 to require Special Permit
from the Planning Board, rather than Special Approval from the Zoning Board. The
applicant is therefore required to obtain Special Permit from the Planning Board for the
project. Cornell University, Owner; T- Mobile, Applicant; Matthew T. Kerwin, Agent.
7:45 P.M. Consideration of Preliminary. and Final Subdivision Approval for the proposed 2 -lot
subdivision located at 132 Pine Tree Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 58 -2 -15,
Medium Density Residential Zone. The proposal involves subdividing the +/- 1.12 acre
lot into two parcels with Parcel A being +/- 25,549 square feet (containing the existing
house) and Parcel B being +/- 23,220 .square feet. C. Michael Brainard & Lynette K. .
Dean, Owners /Applicants.
8:00 P.M. Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the proposed "The
Confection Connection" to be located in an existing building at 8.23 Danby Road
(Rogan's Corner), Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 40 -4 -2, Neighborhood Commercial.
Zone. The proposal involves converting the former storage space ( +/- 806 sq. ft.) into a
dessert delivery service for items such as cookies, brownies and ice cream. Except for a
new awning over the door, there are no exterior changes to the site or building proposed.
James & Julie Rogan, Owners; Kevin Sullivan, Applicant.
8:15 P.M. Consideration to modify a Special Permit Approval for the Big Al's Convenience Store
( Manley's Mighty -Mart) located at 1103 Danby Road, Town of Ithaca.Tax Parcel No.
43- 2 -2.2, Vehicle Fuel and Repair Zone. The proposal involves modifying the previously
granted approval to allow the store to operate 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. A
Special Approval was granted by the Zoning Board of Appeals for the convenience store
on January 14; 1998, which restricted the hours of operation to 6:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m.,
Friday and Saturday, and 6:00 a.m. to midnight, Sunday through Thursday. Pursuant to
the current Town of Ithaca Code, Section 270 -138, convenience stores with gasoline sales
are now regulated by Special Permit from the Planning Board. Manley's Mighty -Mart,
LLC, Owner /Applicant; Dwight R. Ball, Esq., Agent.
Said Planning Board will at said times and said place hear all persons in support of such matters or objections
thereto. Persons may appear by agent or in person. Individuals with visual impairments, hearing
impairments or other special needs; will be provided with assistance as necessary, upon request. Persons
desiring assistance must make such a request not less than 48 hours prior to the time of the public hearings.
Jonathan Kanter, AICP
Director of Planning
273 -1747
Dated: Monday, August 28, 2006
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