HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB Minutes 1999-11-16TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOVEMBER 16. 1999
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The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on Tuesday, November 16, 1999, in Town
Hall, 126 East Seneca Street, Ithaca, New York, at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Fred Wilcox, Chairperson; Eva Hoffmann, Board Member; George Conneman, Board
Member; James Ainslie, Board Member; Tracy Mitrano, Board Member (7:36 p.m); Larry Thayer,
Board Member; Jon Kanter, Director of Planning; John Barney, Attorney for the Town (7:40 p.m);
Daniel Walker, Director of Engineering (7:59 p.m.); Susan Ritter, Environmental Planner; Mike Smith,
Planner,
OTHERS: Karen Wizevich, PRI; Bill Seldin, 120 Northview Road; Dale Stevens, 199 Prichard Street
Corning; Tom Bell, Trumansburg; Ryan Wilcox, 109 Juniper Drive; Dan Lane, Ithaca High School;
Amy Nettleton, Elemental Landscape; Tammi Aiken, TG Miller; Warren Allmon, PRI; Chris Ballentine,
PRI; David Herrick, TG Miller; Phil Pronjanski, PRI; Debbie Teeter, Cooperative Extension; Monika
Roth, Cooperative Extension.
Chairperson Wilcox declared the meeting duly opened at 7:32 p.m., and accepted for the
record the Secretary's Affidavit of Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public Hearings in Town
Hall and the Ithaca Journal on November 8, 1999, and November 10, 1999, together with the
properties under discussion, as appropriate, upon the Clerks of the City of Ithaca and the Town of
Danby, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Planning, upon the Tompkins County
Commissioner of Public Works, and upon the applicants and/or agents, as appropriate, on November
10, 1999. (Affidavit of Posting and Publication is hereto attached as Exhibit #1.)
Chairperson Wilcox read the Fire Exit Regulations to those assembled, as required by the
New York State Department of State, Office of Fire Prevention and Control.
AGENDA ITEM: PERSONS TO BE HEARD.
Chairperson Wilcox opened this segment of the meeting at 7:33 p.m., and asked if any
member of,the public wished to be heard. With no persons present to be heard, Chairperson Wilcox
closed this segment of the meeting at 7:34 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM: SEQR Determination, The Home Design & Build Center, 614 Elmira Road.
Chairperson Wilcox opened this segment of the meeting at 7:34 p.m.
Bill Seldin, 120 Northview Road, stated that this would be office space. It is subject to a more
restrictive zoning. There is no adverse affect. The offices and displays are for residential design and
construction. There is no retail sales or inventory. The building is going from a convenience store
with the traffic calculations at 78 trips in the morning and 87 in the afternoon. This business will
generate 4.3 trips in the morning and 4.2 trips in the afternoon.
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The current access configuration is noted as Adequate. In 1994, Tom Bell came before the
board to utilize the convenience store and the area behind the store. At that time the board approved
the use and suggested that it would only be approved for 3 years in light of anticipated changes by
the Department of Transportation. The Department of Transportation at that time was redoing Route
13. In 1996, Mr. Roscoe had gone bankrupt. They wanted to get a variance for a convenience store.
At that time the issue of access came up. The Planning Board suggested Mancini Drive to get rid of
one of the entrances on Route 13. John Vasse, Realtor, determined that the property could not be
used for industrial use and yield a reasonable return. Mr. Vasse was talking about the convenience
store area. The main reason was the 2,400 square feet and it would be hard to use for light industrial
or factory use. On that occasion the street access was discussed and the board, according to the
minutes, found that since the improvements to the road were going to be made by the Department of
Transportation the Planning Board would not be asking for any more southerly ingress because new
improvements would be made by the Department of Transportation. It was a condition in the minutes
of August 6, 1996 that the board would approve the present traffic configuration at that time subject
to receipt of a Department of Transportation letter that all improvements would be complete. The
letter was issued on August 20,1996. This project is decreasing the traffic. It is consistent with the
surrounding area. There is no controversy anticipated. None of the proposed modifications will
change the existing parking or circulation.
Mr. Seldin stated that the existing sign is a neon sign of 60 square feet. They are reducing it
to 48 square feet. It is within the permitted code. The existing illuminated lettering on the front of the
building will be removed. The directional lights will not have spillage. It will shine on the sign itself.
The security light will remain the same. The current sign is backlit. There were four halogen
spotlights lighting the sign. The halogen spotlights will be removed. The substitute sign will be 66
square feet. Fifty square feet is permitted. A variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals is needed.
Mr. Seldin asked the Planning Board to make a recommendation in favor of the site plan and
the variance to the Zoning Board of Appeals. Dale Stevens is the owner of the business.
Dale Stevens, 199 Prichard Avenue, Corning, stated that there will be four individual
businesses located at the site. They anticipate a staff of four people. After 3 to 4 years they
anticipate having as many as 12 employees working. Most of what they do will be in their client's
home. There will be kitchen and bathroom displays and other product materials for their clients to
view on the premises. They anticipate as many as 10 to 15 client visits per day. The traffic count
mentioned is 4. Most of the sales staff will be coming and going during the middle of the day and
evening. It will be spread out over the course of the day. The office hours are 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.,
Monday through Friday. There will be Saturday hours also.
Mr. Seldin stated that the hours of operation are a positive change from the convenience
store.
Board Member Ainslie stated that he is glad someone is making use of one of the vacant
buildings 011 Route 13.
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Chairperson Wilcox stated that the size of the sign has become smaller. They left 3 inches of
space between the posts and the sign.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that someone mentioned the figure of 66 square feet.
Mr. Stevens stated that it is a combination of the large sign and message board. When he
realized that they were not conforming, Mr. Stevens re- measured everything to be more accurate.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that it was mentioned that the four- halogen spotlights would
be removed. Would the sign still be backlit?
Mr. Stevens stated that the sign has internal florescent tubes. There is no need for external
lights to shine on the sign or parking lot. The sign will be lit at night and the security light will be on.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the sign would be lit the entire night.
Mr. Stevens stated that there is no need to have the sign lit all night. They will put the lights on
a timer.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that the store is not open after 5 p.m. Why would the lights
need to be on?
Mr. !'Stevens responded that the signs have advertising value. They would like to have the
lights shut -' off at 10 p.m. or 11 p.m.
Board Member Hoffmann asked when the current sign is lit and how it is lit. Is it lit internally?
Mr. Seldin responded that it is lit internally. The sign was lit until 10:30 p.m.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the security light is shielded.
Mr. Seldin stated that it is a halogen light and it would stay on all night for security purposes.
Mr. Kanter stated that it has a glass enclosure around it.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that they do not want lights that produce glare. If there is
glare, another glass cover should be put on it.
Mr. 'Seldin stated that it is an amber light. It does not give off a lot of glare. The location of the
light does not pose any of the kinds of problems as with bank lights.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that there is a pay phone on the current fagade. Will the pay
phone rem''ain?
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Mr. Stevens stated that the pay phone would be removed.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the metal roof is existing or will it be new.
Mr. Stevens responded that the roof is existing. They plan no changes to the building except
for the addition of a portico and a fresh coat of paint.
NOTION made by George Conneman, seconded by Larry Thayer.
WHEREAS:
10 This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the proposed
conversion of a former convenience store to The Home Design & Build Center, located at 614
Elmira Road on Town of Ithaca Tax parcel No. 33 =3 -2.42, LI Light Industrial District. The
proposed project would include offices and displays for residential design and construction.
There will be no retail sales or inventory stored at this site, and no site changes are proposed.
Only minor exterior changes to the building are proposed, including the addition of a portico at
the entrance. The building is currently vacant, and previously contained the Valley Korners ll
convenience store. Thomas A. Bell, Owner; Dale Stevens, Evergreen Home Services,
Applicant, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is legislatively
determined to act as Lead Agency in environmental review with respect to Site Plan Approval,
and
30 The Planning Board, on November 16, 1999, has reviewed and accepted as adequate a Short
Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the applicant, a Part 11 prepared by the
Town Planning Staff, and an application packet that includes, among other information, a Site
Plan, Floor Plan and Building Elevations, all entitled "The Home Design & Build Center, 614
Elmira Road', and dated October 25, 1999, and
4. The Town Planning staff have recommended a negative determination of environmental
significance with respect to the proposed site plan;
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination of
environmental significance in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality
Review Act for the above referenced action as proposed and, therefore, neither a Full
Environmental Assessment Form nor an Environmental Impact Statement will be required.
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Ainslie, Mitrano, Thayer.
NAYS: None.
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The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the
proposed conversion of a former convenience store to The Home Design & Build Center, and
a recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding a sign variance to replace the
panels on an existing freestanding sign, located at 614 Elmira Road on Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 33 =3 -2.42, LI Light Industrial District. The proposed project would include offices
and displays for residential design and construction. Minor exterior changes to the building
are proposed, including the addition of a portico at the entrance. The building is currently
vacant, and previously contained the Valley Korners II convenience store. Thomas A. Bell,
Owners Dale Stevens, Evergreen Home Services, Applicant.
Chairperson Wilcox opened the public hearing at 7:52 p.m., and asked if any member of the
public wished to be heard. With no persons present to be heard, Chairperson Wilcox closed the
public hearing at 7:54 p.m.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that there is a chimney indicated on the drawings, but on the
floor plan nothing is shown. What is the purpose of the chimney?
Mr. Stevens stated that there is a fitting in the building for a wood stove. It is currently vacant.
MOTION made by Tracy Mitrano, seconded by George Conneman.
WHEREAS.
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site plan Approval for the proposed
conversion of a former convenience store to The Home Design & Build Center, and a
recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding a sign variance to replace the
panels on an existing freestanding sign, located at 614 Elmira Road on Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 33 -3 -2.42, LI Light Industrial District. The proposed project would include offices
and displays for residential design and construction. There will be no retail sales or inventory
stored at this site, and no site changes are proposed. Only minor exterior changes to the
building are proposed, including the addition of a portico at the entrance. The building is
currently vacant, and previously contained the Valley Korners ll convenience store. Thomas
A. Bell, Owner; Dale Stevens, Evergreen Home Services, Applicant, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as Lead Agency
in environmental review with respect to Site Plan Approval, has, on November 16, 1999 made
a negative determination of environmental significance, after having reviewed and accepted as
adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form Part 1, prepared by the applicant, and
Part ll prepared by the Town Planning staff, and
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3. Thel;Planning Board, at a Public Hearing on November 16, 1999, has reviewed and accepted
as adequate an application packet that includes, among other information, a Site Plan, Floor
Plan and Building Elevations, all entitled `The Home Design & Build Center, 614 Elmira Road,"
and;dated October 25, 1999, and other information related to the application.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED.
7. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements for Preliminary
and Final Site Plan Approval, as shown on the Preliminary and Final Site Plan Checklist,
having determined from the materials presented that such waiver will result in neither a
significant alteration of the purpose of site plan control nor the policies enunciated or implied
by the Town Board, and
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the
proposed conversion of a former convenience store to The Home Design & Build Center,
located at 614 Elmira Road on Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 33 -3 -2.42, LI Light Industrial
District, as shown on a Site Plan, Floor Plan and Building Elevations, all entitled `The Home
Design & Build Center, 614 Elmira Road," and dated October 25, 1999, and other information
related to the application, subject to the following condition:
a. Obtaining of any necessary variances from the Zoning Board of Appeals prior to the
issuance of any building permits.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
1. That the Planning Board, acting as the Sign Review Bard, does hereby recommend that the
Zoning Board of Appeals approve the sign variance for The Home Design & Build Center for
the!, replacement of two panels on the existing freestanding sign, as proposed by the applicant,
subject to the following condition:
a. That the main sign panel shall not exceed 51 square feet in area, and that the message
board panel shall not exceed 15 square feet in area as shown on the revised design
submitted to the Planning Board at the November 16, 1999 meeting.
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Ainslie, Mitrano, Thayer,
NAYS: None,
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM: Consideration of a Sketch Plan for the proposed Museum of the Earth at the
Paleontological Research Institution, located at 1259 Trumansburg Road on Town of Ithaca
Tax Parcel No. 24- 3 -3.1, Residence District R -30. The new museum will be an 18,000 square
foot, two expansion, partially below grade. New parking areas will accommodate
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approximately 65 cars. The Museum is expected to attract up to 50,000 visitors per year,
including both schools and the general public. Paleontological Research Institution,
Owner /Applicants Tammi Aiken, TG Miller, PC and Weiss/Manfredi Architects, Agents.
Chairperson Wilcox opened this segment of the meeting at 7:57 p.m.
Warren Allmon, Paleontological Research Institution, stated that PRI has existed for 68 years.
They hope to attract more public interest with the Museum of the Earth. The planning for this
museum began about 4 years ago. There has been a great deal of effort put into trying to make a
plan for an institution that will bring the resources of PRI and its collections as well as interpreting the
regional natural history for the residents. They are excited about working with Cornell University,
Ithaca College, State Parks and the other institutions in Town. They would like to tell the Planning
Board about their site plan.
Michael Manfredi, Weiss Manfredi Architects, stated this is an opportunity to have a museum
telling a story about how the earth evolved. This is one of the most geologically interesting areas in
this country. The museum is an opportunity to celebrate the landscape and geology of this area.
There is an existing historical building on the site. They have been in close communication
with State Historic Preservation Office. The building is important historically. One of the tasks is to
preserve the building as much as possible. There is also a wetland. It is important to preserve it and
build around it. It has ecological value. They would like to use it as a very important component in
discussing the relationship between biology and geology.
Mr. ii Manfredi stated that they took a thorough look at the geology in the area. They started
with the Finger Lakes. It is clear that this was an area of a very intense glaciation. The pattern is
seen in the configuration of Cayuga Lake and the various canals. The presence of ground water is
evidence of a man made structure. They had an obligation of showing PRI their various options.
The building is currently 18,000 square feet. Initially they discussed a larger building. Different areas
of the site were looked at. It was deemed that the area along Trumansburg Road was inappropriate.
It would block the existing building and was difficult in terms of functioning. One the things that the
museum needed was access from the existing building to the new museum. What started to evolve,
as a way of massing the building was to break it in two. This way the pieces would be much more
commensurate in scale with the existing building. It would have less impact on the site. The site also
slopes. There is a ten -foot change of grade. They are looking at nestling the building into the site. It
will make it a more efficient building thermally. The sight lines will be improved. There will be less
impact relative to the existing building. There is an attempt to push the building down to develop a
gentler relationship to the new building.
From that came the idea of breaking the parking into a series of smaller areas rather than one
large parking lot. It would also shield the parking by a series of berms. They also want to make use
of the fact that there is ground water and manage the water in such a way that there is a water
detention area. It is an attractive landscape element year round. There is the development of a
wetland area. They would like to turn that into a more significant feature. The building is broken into
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two pieces. The building is connected below grade. The sense is that the building has become a
gorge. The building can start to frame smaller more intimate views. They have also tried to position
the building so that there is a very large viewshed along Trumansburg Road.
Mr. Manfredi stated that they are beginning preliminary ideas of how the plan should be
configured. They are trying to preserve the spruce tree. There is a plaza area that will be shared by
both buildings. They took a section from Trumansburg Road to the edge of the site. They are
starting to look carefully about how to shield the parking and how to berm it. There is a drop in the
topography, and the way in which the parking is shielded. They are beginning to think about
establishing height lines to the existing building. There will be material to make it more evident. As it
is looked at from different views, the new museum is shielded by a berm. They are trying to develop
alignments and relationships with the existing building in terms of materials, coloration and massing.
The model has been photographed so that the board could get a sense of how it would look.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that the view shown is not at eye level.
Mr. Manfredi stated that it does give an idea of how it would look. They are looking at ways of
developing the length below grade. They propose removing some of the non - historic elements in the
existing building.
Chairperson Wilcox asked Mr. Manfredi to explain picture number 3.
Mr. Manfredi responded that it is a great shot of the dedication on June 26th, 1927. Mr. Herrick
is here to talk about the site issues.
David Herrick, TG Miller, stated that the idea is to keep the entrance at Trumansburg Road
consistent with its current location. They would like to make the intersection a 90- degree angle.
There have been discussions with Gordon Rymles, the regional engineer in Cortland. He did not
have any objections at this time. There is a one way circulation pattern. The idea is to drive in to the
plaza which helps you to focus on the museum as you are coming in. The opportunity is to go into
the parking lot or walking in along the adjacent sidewalks to the plaza. There is a parking area
designated for bus parking and overflow parking. The parking will allow for a better feel of how the
grading will work to mask the parking. The slopes will be worked back into the pavements in an
adverse manner so that they have the front of the cars buried against the highest portions of the
berms. This minimizes the view of the parking areas from Trumansburg Road.
They are looking at gravel parking surfaces. It could be asphalt in the future. They are
looking for more natural materials for the parking. The entrance and exit drives would be asphalt
pavement.
Mr. Herrick stated that they are looking at constructing grass lined swales adjacent to the
parking areas. They will be providing other amenities. One would be for filtering out sediment and it
would provide some level of storm water detention. The balance of detention would come from an
area that may be expanded.
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Water and sewer services will be manipulated on the property in order to accommodate the
new building. There will be some relocation of utilities. This will be worked out with Mr. Walker.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that access of service vehicles to the rear seems circuitus as a
result. The existing building narrows the access drive.
Mr. Herrick stated that large tractor - trailer vehicles would need to pull forward on the exit drive
and back their way in. They recognize that it would be a concern given the location of the building
annex and the existing shed. There will be ample room in the back for the loading dock area.
Board Member Ainslie stated that the board was given a note from the Tompkins County
Planning Department that mentioned that Harris Dates Drive might be worked into the site. The
Planning Board took a site walk. It did not seem that it would work.
Mr. Manfredi stated that they did look at it. The existing facilities and buildings are in the path
of what would be a connector. Moving to the east means going onto the private drive of the hospital.
He stated that they wanted to keep the existing trees. They were concerned about cutting into it.
Mr. Allmon stated that they are projecting about 50,000 visits per year to the museum. A very
busy day at this museum would be 1,000 people in one day. It would happen only with a special
event or a rainy day in August. The average visitors per day would be 200 to 300. It would be
spread out over the hours of operation. The hours of operation have not been decided. They would
be similar to most museums. The peak times at the museum will not coincide with the rush periods
on Route 96. They do not think it will generate a lot of additional traffic during peak time on
Trumansburg Road. The visitors that they are anticipating are 50% within 50 miles and 50% outside
50 miles. They are anticipating about 10% of the visitors being school groups. They will have buses,
but it will not be most of their traffic. The general idea about visitorship is that it would never be
extremely crowed. They do hope that at least one or two days a year it would be extremely crowed.
Board Member Mitrano asked when they would expect to open.
Mr. 'Allmon responded that the tentative opening is 2001.
Attorney Barney asked if the project is funded.
Mr. Allmon stated that it is not fully funded. They have received several large leadership gifts.
Mr. Kanter asked Mr. Allmon to explain the role of the State Dormitory Authority.
Mr. Allmon stated that one of the lead commitments to the campaign came from the State. It
came in a member item from Senator Seward, Natural Heritage Trust, through the Community
Facilities Enhancement program. Two separate pieces came from Jim Seward and Marty Luster.
One came through the Empire State Development Corporation and the other was from the Dormitory
Authority. The total is $1.7 million. The total cost of the project is $7 million to $8 million.
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Board Member Thayer stated that he is concerned about the parking lot. It was mentioned
that there is a narrow entrance road. If someone drives to the first parking lot near the museum and
it is full, they will need to drive around the loop to get to parking lot 2. Has any thought been given to
a back road to the parking lot? If someone goes in one parking lot, they will be able to get into
another parking lot.
Mr. Herrick responded that they have not considered any connectivity between the lots.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that each parking bay has a driving area and another area to
park. Therefore, four different parking bays are needed. There could be an equal amount of parking
in two or three bays. There is a lot of driving area for parking space. The board does not like a lot of
asphalt.
Mr. Herrick stated that they are trying to develop a view that is masked. Keeping the parking
against the hillside so that you are not looking at a flat area of parking.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that it might be possible to cut down on the disturbed area.
Mr. Manfredi stated that they are trying to balance breaking the parking into smaller modules
so that there are larger areas of grassed surface between parking bays. It also allows the parking to
be terraced more effectively without an imbalance of cut and fill. They are less efficient in one sense.
The efficiencies are in lessening the visual impact of the parking and allowing the cars to be shielded
more effectively. It is a trade off. There is a little bit of a downside.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that the visual barriers are from the east and west. What
about a barrier from the south as one drives along Trumansburg Road?
Mr. Manfredi stated that the berming is wrapping around. There is some shielding. One of the
challenges is that if the building were close to Trumansburg Road, the natural reaction would be to
put the parking in the back. They are unable to do so. It would have a negative impact on the
existing building.
Board Member Ainslie asked if parking spaces have been designated for the handicapped.
Mr. , Herrick stated that there is a possibility of having it close to the existing building. Another
possibility was having it close to the first parking bay.
Board Member Ainslie asked what the percentage needed to be.
Mr. Herrick stated that they need 2% of the parking to be for the handicapped.
Mr. Manfredi stated that the whale skeleton would be reassembled and positioned in the
lobby.
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Chairperson Wilcox stated that they would like some figures on the cut and fill and the issues
with the sloping terrain of the front yard. They would also like to see why what has been proposed is
a reasonable balance to mitigate all the potential factors. What is the benefit? A traffic analysis will
be required.
Mr. Allmon stated that they would be open six days a week. The days will not be determined.
During the summer they were open Monday through Saturday. They would not open before 10:00
a.m., and they would not stay open more than one or two evenings a week. It would be 10:00 a.m. to
5 or 6:00 p.m. The peak hours are not early in the morning or late in the afternoon. Midday is the
peak time for school groups. Weekends are peak times for families. Saturday will be our busiest
day. Holidays and rainy days are also busy.
Mr. Kanter asked if a dinamation display would be something that they will be getting back
into.
Mr. Allmon stated that part of the interior plan includes a 1500 square foot temporary exhibit
space. There will be regularly changing exhibits.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she thinks it is wonderful to have this museum available
to the public. She knows that they are trying to do something that is visually exciting. She does like
the idea of splitting the building. It has a lot of possibilities. Board Member Hoffmann stated that she
does have questions. In addition to the space that needs to be paved or graveled in the parking
area, they have created a new driveway when there is one already. The proposed one leads into the
space between the two buildings. She wonders if it is necessary except for visually. It does give an
exciting look to the place. Board Member Hoffmann stated that she questions why they are putting it
the way that they are when they are leaving the spruce tree. The spruce tree is in the middle of the
view as seen from the proposed new entrance drive.
Mr. Manfredi stated that they would be limbing some of the spruce tree. They did want to
keep the spruce tree. They do need a significant loop. It made sense to extend the grass area and it
was a natural progression to see the road. It did give them a chance to look at this as something that
has grown out of the landscape.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she is sorry to hear that they are thinking of cutting the
limbs off the spruce in order to open up the view.
Mr. Manfredi stated that there would be a lot of grading that occurs, so it does need to be done
a little.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that the tree is beautiful the way it is. It would be a shame to
alter it. She thought that the distance between the gable wall of the existing building and the wall of
the new building is very close. The wall will be seen from the new building, but not the same from
elsewhere. Would not it create a nicer space if the northern most building were pivoted to the east?
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There would be a wider interior courtyard space. It would create two distinct outdoor spaces that
could have exciting things happening. The view of the wall would not be blocked.
Mr. Manfredi stated that they debated it at length with the State Historic Preservation Office.
They want to keep the loading to the rear. The more that they shift this, the more difficult it will be to
access the loading area. The loading dock is essential to have in the back. They are trying to have a
balance.
Board Member Ainslie asked if they were trying to expand the wetland.
Mr. Manfredi stated that they would like to extend the grass areas around the wetland. It
would give° it more impact. The areas that are wet would predominately remain cattails and shrubs
that like wet areas. They would then have grasses that are occasionally wet. Then closer to
Trumansburg Road would be smaller grasses. They would like to think that this is an opportunity to
learn about various ecosystems and how they respond to different soil conditions.
Board Member Thayer asked if the roof of the new building would be the same as the old
building. It is a beautiful shale roof.
Mr. Manfredi stated that they would be looking at a metal roof that has a coloration that
matches the slate. Slate would require a steep pitch and it would bring it into conflict with historic
issues. The model is never quite what will be seen. In some places the roof will not be seen.
Mr. Kanter stated the possibility of a shared parking arrangement with one of the adjacent land
owners have been discussed. Where have those discussions gone at this point?
Mr. Allmon stated that they have good relations with their neighbor. They have shared the
parking lot on occasion for overflow on special events. If the peak days are not work days, he
anticipates that they would be able to use it. They also have a good relationship with the hospital,
but it is more complicated. The pedestrian access from PRI to the hospital could be developed in the
future.
Mr. Kanter stated that the board should have received a letter and correspondence from the
State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO). Those discussions are underway.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that the board likes to question everything and find out that the
alternatives have been thought about and can explain what was chosen.
Board Member Hoffmann asked what is the opinion of SHPO.
Mr. Kanter stated that Mr. Lord is in agreement with the current concept design of the building.
It is outlining some thoughts on how things should proceed.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that this structure and the neighboring structures are important.
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Mr. Manfredi stated that they have done historic work. This should be a tremendous asset to
the community.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if there was a photograph showing how the roof lines would
look against the trees from Trumansburg Road.
Mr. Manfredi stated that the model could show the view from Trumansburg Road. Elevations
are always deceptive because you never really see things in true elevation.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that the right most corner of the new building is almost to the
top of the trees on the model. The drawings do not show it that way; it is shown much lower.
Mr. Manfredi stated that the trees are quite a bit higher than the model is indicating.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the photographs or the drawings were more realistic.
Mr. Manfredi stated that the photograph is more realistic.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that the photographs do not show the new buildings.
Mr. Manfredi stated that the model is less realistic because the trees are not as high. They
are closer to the elevation drawing.
Mr. Kanter stated that he would like to discuss the traffic analysis so that the applicants would
have a better idea of what the board is looking for. The environmental review will be coordinated with
the other involved agencies. They have heard concerns from the County Planning Department about
traffic on Trumansburg Road. The board may want to see a fairly detailed traffic study of some kind.
At some point guidance will need to be given to the applicant. The board has heard a lot about the
hours of operation and the anticipated number of visitors. It will be very important in terms of setting a
magnitude of what types of traffic will be coming to the site. Overall volumes over a period of time
will be significant. We need to get an idea of where they are coming from. The types of vehicles and
how many buses could be expected over certain periods of time.
Mr. Allmon stated that the first step would be to see how museum generated traffic would
affect the area. This would tell if there would be the traditional commercial retail implications.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that the capacity on Route 96 and the existing load would need to
be looked at.
Mr. Kanter stated that the nearby intersection of Dates Drive with the hospital would need to
be looked at. He is concerned about the wording of the County Planning Department's letter that
was implying a preconceived notion that there would be a significant impact on Trumansburg Road
without seeing a traffic study. The response was not to prejudge the project.
Board Member Ainslie asked if there is an accurate traffic count at this time.
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Mr. Allmon stated that PRI has 10,000 to 12,000 visitors
people per car. This does not mean much for the new museum.
known where the visitors come from and that the summer is busy,
space, they had 5 times more buses than before.
per year. There are at least two
The scale will be different. It is
Since they have opened the new
Mr. Herrick stated that the function of the museum needs to be looked at and how the traffic
generated by the museum may or may not be an impact.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the board could hear the landscaping ideas.
Amy Nettleton, Elemental Landscaping, stated that the primary landscape areas are the drives
that come with the site. The grass berms shield the parking grounds on the other side by the wedge
with wetland at the base. The idea of the space is to develop it with vegetation and tiering it with
wetland plants. The slope would be stepped up with bands of various grasses. They are in the early
stages of design and they have not made any specific plans at this point. They are also looking at a
more intimate garden area in the back of the museum. They are in the early stages of developing
ideas for it.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that there are two spruces in the drawings. The second
spruce is not shown.
Ms., Nettleton stated that it is much smaller than the larger spruce that is being preserved. It is
not thriving. They are looking at if the tree will be saved or removed.
Mr. Manfredi stated that they would like to save it. It looks like it is dying. They need to
determine whether it is beyond being able to be saved. It is unclear what can be done with it.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that if it cannot be saved it is all the more reason to keep the
large spruce in its natural state.
Chairperson Wilcox asked what would happen with the willow tree.
Mr. Manfredi stated that they did look at trying to save the willow tree. They tried to determine
whether the tree was part of the original landscaping plan. More than likely, it was not. The conifer
trees were a preferred tree type. The spruce trees were planted symmetrically around the building.
They do need to increase the water detention area. It would be difficult to do. Once the water
detention area is increased, it is likely that it will be too wet for the willow to survive. They are trying
to work around an existing building and a series of trees that they would like to save.
Chairperson Wilcox closed this segment of the meeting at 9:06 p.m.
MOTION made by Fred Wilcox, seconded by Larry Thayer.
WHEREAS:
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7. The' Paleontological Research Institution is proposing to expand its current facilities with the
construction of an 18,000 square foot two -story building, to be known as the Museum of the
Earth, with parking to accommodate approximately 65 cars, on a portion of Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 24- 3 -3.1, totaling 6.35 ± acres in size, located on Trumansburg Road, R -30
Residence District, and
2. The proposed project is an Unlisted Action pursuant to the State Environmental Quality
Review Act, 6 NYCRR Part 617, and Town of Ithaca Local Law No. 5 of the Year 1988
Providing for Environmental Review of Actions in the Town of Ithaca, and
3. A Full Environmental Assessment Form (EAF), Part 1, will be submitted by the applicant for the
above - described actions, along with other application materials, and
4. A letter, dated November 9, 1999, was sent by the Planning Department to involved and
interested agencies indicating the Planning Board's intent to act as lead agency with respect
to the above - referenced actions, and requesting concurrence with said designation.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby proposes to establish itself as lead agency to
conduct a coordinated environmental review of the proposed Paleontological Research Institution's
Museum of the Earth project, located on Trumansburg Road. Town of Ithaca approvals include site
plan approval by the Planning Board and special approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby requests the concurrence of all involved agencies on
this proposed lead agency designation, said concurrence to be received by the Town of Ithaca
Planning Department within thirty days from the date of the above - referenced November 9, 1999
letter.
AYES: Wilcox, Hoffmann, Conneman, Ainslie, Thayer.
NAYS: None.
ABSENT: Mitrano.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
AGENDA ITEM: Presentation and discussion regarding Agricultural District #2 Eight Year
Review — Monika Roth and Debbie Teeter, Cornell Cooperative Extension.
Chairperson Wilcox opened this segment of the meeting at 9:09 p.m.
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Monika Roth, Cornell Cooperative Extension, stated that the Town has a small section of land
i n Agricultu'llral District #1. The western portion of the Town is in Agricultural District #2. They are
visiting every town to inform them that the Agricultural District is under review. Every eight years the
Ag. District comes under review to determine the level of agricultural activity and its continuation in
the district.0 The other is to determine the non - agricultural impacts. The responsibility for doing the
review is joint. The Agricultural and Farmland Protection Board and the County Planning Board do
the review jointly. The County Board of Representatives will approve the district. During the review
period is the time that property owners can decide to remove their property out of the district or
others can ask to have their land added to the district. They go through a process of identifying and
looking at the map to find out if there are areas that are no longer agricultural. They would like to
take those lands out. This is where the help of towns is needed.
Ms. Roth stated that it is a 300 -day review. They would like to have most of the major
changes identified in time for the public hearing on January 18, 2000 at the County Board of
Representatives. It will be easy to work with the Town because the town has designated their
Agricultural Districts. They would like to look at where the Town's Agricultural Zones and the
Agricultural District match or do not match. Then identify why they do not match. If there are areas
that need to be removed they want to look at it. If a property owner wants to be in the Ag. District
they have 'a right to be in the district. People have asked to have land taken out of the district and
those requests have been honored as well. The main limitation that they have run into is that there is
a limitation on the extension of public water and sewer. There maybe restrictions placed on the
extension of water and sewer. In the Town of•Lansing, when the water line was installed there was a
restriction on the number of laterals. The water line could be present, but new dwellings could not be
hooked up. It does keep land in agricultural. They would like to identify potential infrastructure and
development.
Chairperson Wilcox asked what the benefits are to having land included in the Agricultural
District.
Ms. Roth responded that the main benefit for an active farmer is that they can receive an
agricultural exemption. They need to apply every year. In order to receive the exemption, there
needs to be 10 or more acres in agricultural production for two years. It has to be generating at least
$10,000 worth of Agricultural Sales. Most farmers feel that it is a significant benefit. Many feel that
they could not hold onto the land if they had to pay the taxes at the full rate. If a farmer has a 50=
acre field 'and 500 feet of road frontage, the assessment would be restricted to a one -acre parcel. It
would be equivalent to what other property owners that only have a house would be assessed.
Keeping an area predominately agricultural is a benefit to farmers. It does create an agricultural
neighborhood. It helps farmers to operate more effectively and efficiently.
Board Member Mitrano asked Board Member Ainslie what his thoughts are on this.
Board Member Ainslie stated that it does help a lot. His son rents two farms from the widow of
his second cousin. He works the land so she qualifies because the farm grosses over $10,000. It
was a $132,000 reduction in her tax assessment.
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Ms. Roth stated that a lot of farmers are owning less land and renting. As long as they can
rent land from neighbors, the neighbor can qualify for the agricultural assessment also. The State
requires that 50% of the land in the Ag. District is active agricultural land. Last time they were at
51 %. They do want to make sure that they do take out parcels that are clearly not agricultural. It
does encompass areas that are not agricultural. When they first drew up the districts, they decided
not to have the Swiss cheese effect. If there was a small parcel that was not actively farmed, but
completely'surrounded by farms, they included it in the district.
Board Member Ainslie stated that there is a restriction that if you have land in an Ag. District
and you have taken the reduction in the assessment, the discount needs to be paid back when the
land is sold.
Ms. Roth stated that the person who makes the conversion pays the penalty.
Chairperson Wilcox asked if Ms. Roth needed anything from the Planning Board.
Ms. Roth replied that she wanted to make sure that the Town gives them any information that
they need before the end of the year. This would enable them to incorporate it into the public
hearing.
Board Member Ainslie stated that Mr. Frantz has been promoting the Purchase of
Development Rights to save farm land. One parcel was appraised and the appraiser did not
understand the program, and the difference between the agricultural value and the development
value. The appraiser did not understand the program and only assessed $500 per acre. The Town
Board is still working on the Purchase of Development Rights program.
Mr. Kanter stated that it will be talked about at the November 18, 1999 Town Board meeting.
There are some obvious properties that can be removed from the Ag. District. Part of Ceracche,
Perry Lane, Linderman Creek on Mecklenburg Road, and the Sterling House Sterling Cottage portion
of Perry farm can all be removed. The Town has acquired several large pieces of parkland that need
to be removed. The Vasse farm on Sandbank Road could be included. The owner needs to agree
with it.
Ms. Roth stated that they have talked with the owner previously and will discuss it with them
again.
Mr. Kanter stated that parts of the Ceracche and Perry farms are being farmed, but will
probably be developed at some point.
Ms. Roth stated that the Ecovillage area has also been considered.
Mr. Kanter stated that they already have their first residence group developed. They have the
second group proposed. They are farming part of the area.
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OTHER BUSINESS.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that he received a letter at home regarding the Cornell University
North Campus Residential Initiative project. See Attachment #1.
Board Member Conneman asked what is going to happen at the November 30th Planning
Board meeting.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that they have to hold a public hearing because the original public
hearing was advertised with a recommendation to rezone to a Recreational District. He will ask that
the public and applicant restrict their comments to any new information or any information that is
different as a result of the proposed R -30 zoning. The applicant knows that the board only needs to
(near new information. Scott Whitham from Historic Ithaca will be present. The Planning Board has
been deliberating at length. He hopes that after the public hearing they can move into review and
approval of the Statement of Findings. Then see if there are four votes for or against the project.
Board Member Conneman asked if the board could convince Cornell University not to bring up
the irrelevant issues. It is irrelevant for Ms. Egan to bring up the lawsuit with Union College and
Schenectady. There are many irrelevant items that they keep bringing up. If the board can get those
out of the way a decision can be made.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that it is difficult to decide when the public does not address the
issue. The public does have the right to speak.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that it is very important that the applicant has the opportunity
to present the project just in case there is someone in the audience who was not there the time
before. When Cornell University or any other applicant takes advantage of it, it is contrary to how the
meeting should go. They are only supposed to supply information about the project. If there is a
second meeting on an issue, the applicant should do a brief overview of the project. One could also
ask if anyone is unfamiliar with the project, and if everyone present is familiar with it, there would be
no need for the applicant to do a presentation.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that if there is someone present that is not familiar with the project
he would not ask the applicant to do the entire presentation for one person.
Board Member Conneman stated that he also feels that if there are nine people that want to
comment on traffic, let one comment. Then the next one can state that they agree. If they have a
different point to make, he is willing to listen. At the last public hearing, each athlete made the same
point.
Board Member Mitrano stated that people of Forest Home have made the same comments as
well. It is hard for the chair to know if they are going to make a different comment.
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Board Member Conneman stated that if one talks about traffic in Forest Home and' another
traffic in front of Helen Newman, that is fine. The board does not need nine people to tell them about
going past Helen Newman. He feels it is fair to let everyone talk, but the same point does not need
to be made repeatedly.
Board Member Mitrano asked if Board Member Conneman was upset about the athletes who
spoke.
Board Member Conneman stated that he was upset because the petitions handed in by the
athletes were signed in a dorm and many places where no one knew anything about the project.
They were given the petitions without being told about the issues.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that the exact same points were made. The athletes focused
on needing all three fields. She believes that one board member may at sometime have suggested
eliminating "one field. They focused on that comment as if that was the only thing that they had heard
about the project.
Board Member Ainslie stated that after a Cornell University football game, he ran into George
Bayer. He was on the Planning Board previously and lives in Forest Home, Mr. Bayer commented
that if Cornell University said that they are going to put a road from Pleasant Grove Road, make them
do it. There are some things that do not get followed through.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that he spoke with one member of the Cornell contingent who
asked him about the petitions. Chairperson Wilcox explained that they were not worth the paper that
they were written on as far as he was concerned. The fact that a segment of the public signs
petitions indicating that they are opposed or in favor of some thing does not have any bearing on how
he makes his decision. The board is present to make good land use decisions not to make the
majority happy. This gentleman was not happy to hear that after they went through all the work to
gather the petitions.
Board Member Conneman stated that there were two letters from that meeting from faculty
members. These letters had the exact identical paragraph in them. Cornell University gave them the
paragraph and these two people copied the same paragraph. It is plagiarism.
Mr. , Kanter stated that in discussions with Kathy Wolf, she mentioned that Cornell University
has listened to the suggestion that the parking areas might be reconfigured. They are coming up
with a modified parking arrangement as an alternate. The plan will be ready Friday, November 19,
1999 if any member of the board would like to look at the plan in the Planning Department.
AGENDA ITEM: ADJOURNMENT:
Upon MOTION, Chairperson Wilcox declared the November 16, 1999 Meeting of Town of
Ithaca Planning Board duly adjourned at 9:38 p.m.
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P epared by
Carrie L. Coates,
Keyboard Specialist/Minutes Recorder
November 9, 1999
Mr., Fred Wilcox III
109 Jun_ iper Drive
Ithaca, NY 14850
Dear Mr. Wilcox,
My name is Adam Lindenbaum and I'm a sports columnist for the Cornell Daily Sun. My column
appears every other Tuesday this semester, and this week's topic of discussion was the Cradit-
Moore house and its future effects on Cornell Intramural and Club sports.
I was in attendance during the November 2, 1999 Town Planning Board meeting, where you
briefly introduced the possibility of moving the Cradit -Moore house to the comer of Jessup and
Pleasant Grove Roads. This proposal, in my mind, is a fantastic middle ground between the needs
of the University and Historic Ithaca. At a minimal loss of two basketball courts, historical
integrity and a safe playing field can be achieved.
My interest in your brief proposal was strong enough to cite your idea in my November 9 column.
My intent for this column was to get student voices heard, and assuming your idea is proven
architecturally feasible, I hope it can gather student support.
I have included a copy of my column, and hope you find my perspective on the issue an insightful
one. Please contact me with any concerns or questions you may have. Regardless, I will see you
on November, 30, 7:30 p.m.
Sincerely,
Adam Lindenbaum
Cornell Daily Sun
ajl23 @comell.edu
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Nei man' Hull currently. . serves . the :mend and .Moore .I those ut favor of g1 . the house r II
{ >intact feel' that movuig it: away:frora Forest
vyorrir3n s, rug bx teams, iitrariiural softtiali. games,
grid new student recreation. TWo dorms aiid a would reduce its> iistorical sigiu%ican ;
student center will be built in'the middle of taus
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field, evicting these, atfiletic activities. froth their The evidence is overwhelming that Cor el
h'orne 0 should move this; house. Besides t}ie fact that it .is
theirs to : move,. the offer made - is genemjs :.and
The Qbvious. responso is to =put the displaced res tfitl of the house and its S ibrts on .tessup Meld wliich very often appears to I.
be empty Jessup is alreaciyrused for intramural sort- I'm againsf moving; the site northbood on
cep`s football,, softball: and various . summer sport Pleasant Grove Road because I agree a „site's'loca-
cwnps; and needs rest periods between =seasons to ttOn has much to do with its histancal significance.
ensure the, peril al growth. A Cayuga Heights B mot *`the 'xadit11!Ioore.house away froin its
ordinance also pro- tiiginal ration; it is reduced to being an old build -
h;ibits . iritercollegiate trig without history
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athletic activity on My. family has
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Campus where the
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Road (Fl & 2 on the .v "y_
Campus Map). The
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Planning Board has
already recommend-
ed to the Town
Board that the land
be zoned as recre-
ational land; this would proride adequate field
spare for all club. intramural and general recreation
ery of
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years.
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is, try to see the big
picture. Just because
this old house does-
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The Hillier Group /Dagit Saylor Architects tectural styles of pro -
posed modem build-
ings; just because no
one is living in the
house now; and just
because a current
concrete need for the house cannot be found does-
n't mean that these needs will not surface in the
future.
My Proposal. The Cradit -Moore house, cur- rently
located at 'A ", should be moved to "B" rather than
building new basketball courts there.
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t is dief problem?
Cradit Moore house stands on Pleasant
Grove Road, dust off the comer of �f6W.p Road and
dangerously close to the proposed northeast.cotiier .
of one field, A proposed .plan by' Assistan# Town
Pr George Frantz to both Build. the field and
kip the house intact reveals several risks to athlet- .
io participants
t'Arst, the northwest corner oftle field will only.
hve five feet of space from thy, fields proposed
pgrkin.g 16t. Not much runniri' --room f or confer
kick,, is there? .
Sadbrid, the field in question' has a change in
Bade in the direction of play While many fields are
§(aped across the direction of ;play„ the. proposed
site will provide an unfair, advantage -for the feain
going downhill
My family could
gogue, but 141
cover a.tieed for this
What should be c
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.pair. of outdoor l ash
Jessup and Pleasant
nice? Certainly Are 1
The four outdoor
be intact afEer cons
outdoor court -pact
Newman. Hall =bass
where along with Bs
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play: how ' many . a
enough to:play outdo
Third, lecatise'of the steep grade change, a 1_2 the
kJ'high retaining wall will be iieeded'approxi- ings
ely 20 feet from the northeast corner. Also; . itig
ntial residents of •the Cradit -Moore house
1d have a 12 foot cliff in their ttiac kY and only 35;1 wou
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-- - - from the house:
In a word, dangerous
What albeiives�have, been proposed?
With these unaVotdalle liabilities for the pro-
posed plan; .Cornell: is °offering up to $4000 to
Historic Ithaca tai �ove the Cradit =Moore house
approximately 1% c>f' a mile north on Pleasant
Grove Road, With ,the house moved, .the parking
lot, retaining wall and grade changes could all be
ameliorated.
�vtiy are the reside nts,of. Forest Home and his=
tart
and Forest Home settler Isaac Cradit's home, a
model of Greek Revival architecture, was built in
1816 - long before Cornell University was a
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
126 East Seneca Street
r Ithaca,New York 14850
Tuesday,November 16, 1999
AGENDA
7:30 P.M. Persons to be heard(no more than five minutes).
7:35 P.M. SEQR Determination,The Home Design and Build Center, 614 Elmira Road.
7:40 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING:Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the
proposed conversion of a former convenience store to The Home Design&Build Center,and a
recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding a sign variance to replace the panels
on an existing freestanding sign,located at 614 Elmira Road on Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.33-
3-2.42,LI Light Industrial District.The proposed project would include offices and displays for
residential design and construction. There will be no retail sales or inventory stored at this site,and
no site changes are proposed. Minor exterior changes to the building are proposed, including the
addition of a portico at the entrance.The building is currently vacant,and previously contained the
Valley Korners 11 convenience store. Thomas A Bell, Owner,Dale Stevens,Evergreen Home
Services, Applicant.
8:00 P.M. Consideration of a Sketch Plan for the proposed Museum of the Earth at the Paleontological
Research Institution,located at 1259 Trumansburg Road on Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 24-3-
3.1,Residence District R-30. The new museum will be an 18,000 square foot, two-story
expansion,partially below grade. New parking areas will accommodate approximately 65 cars.
The Museum is expected to attract up to 50,000 visitors per year, including both schools and the
general public. Paleontological Research Institution, Owner/Applicant; Tammi Aiken, T.G.
Miller, P.C. and Weiss/Manfredi Architects, Agents;
8:45 P.M. Presentation and discussion regarding Agricultural District#2 Eight Year Review -Monika Roth
and Debbie Teeter, Cornell Cooperative Extension.
6. Persons to be heard(continued from beginning of meeting if necessary).
7. Approval of Minutes: (None available at time of mailout).
8. Other Business.
9. Adjournment.
Jonathan Kanter, AICP
Director of Planning
273-1747
NOTE:IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD IS UNABLE TO ATTEND,PLEASE NOTIFY MARY BRYANT AT
273-1747.
(A quorum of four(4)members is necessary to conduct Planning Board business.)
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
Tuesday,November 16, 1999
By direction of the Chairperson of the Planning Board, NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a Public Hearing will be
held by the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca on Tuesday, November 16, 1999, at 126 East Seneca Street, Ithaca,
N.Y.,at the following time and on the following matter:
7:40 P.M. Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the proposed conversion of a former
convenience store to The Home Design& Build Center, and a recommendation to the Zoning Board
of Appeals regarding a sign variance to replace the panels on an existing freestanding sign, located
at 614 Elmira Road on Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 33-3-2.42, LI Light Industrial District. The
proposed project would include offices and displays for residential design and construction. There will
be no retail sales or inventory stored at this site,and no site changes are proposed. Only minor exterior
changes to the building are proposed, including the addition of a portico at the entrance. The building
is currently vacant, and previously contained the Valley Komers H convenience store. Thomas A.
Bell,Owner, Dale Stevens,Evergreen Home Services,Applicant.
Said Planning Board will at said time and said place hear all persons in support of such matter or objections thereto.
Persons may appear by agent or in person. Individuals with visual impairments, hearing impairments or other special
needs, will be provided with assistance as necessary, upon request. Persons desiring assistance must make such a
request not less than 48 hours prior to the time of the public hearing.
Jonathan Kanter, AICP
Director of Planning
273-1747
Dated:Monday,November 8, 1999
Publish:Wednesday,November 10, 1999
The Ithaca Journal
Wednesday, November 10, 1999
TOWN OF ITHACA
PLANNING BOARD
NOTICE OF
PUBLIC HEARING
Tuesday, Nov. 16, 1999
By dlrertion of the
Chairperson of the Planning
fidord, NOTICE 6 HEREBY
GIVEN that a Public Heoring
will be heldb the Planning
Board of the Town of Ithaca
on Tuesday, November 16,
1999, at 126 East Seneca
Street, Ithaca, N.Y., at the
following time and on the
following matter.
7.40 p.m. Consideration of
Preliminary and Final Site
Plan Approval for the pro,
posed conversion of a former
convenience store to The
Home Design&Build Center,
and a recommendation to the
Zoning Board of Appeals re-
garding ❑ sign variance to
replace the poneis on an ex-
isting freeslandtng sign, lo-
cated at 614 Elmira Road on
Town of Ithoca Tax Parcel
No,33-3-2.42,11 light indus-
trial District. The proposed
Mwould include offices
displays for residential
design and construction.
There will be no retail sales
or inventory stared _':o
t this
site, and no site changes are
proposed. Only minor ex-
terior changes to the building
are proposed, including the
addition of a portico at the
entrance.The building is cur
rently vacant, and previously
contained the Volley Korner
llconvenience store. Thomas',,
A.Bell,Owner,Dole Stevens,
Evergreen Home Services,
Applicant.
Said Plannin Board will at
said time and said place hear
all persons in support of such
matter or objections thereto.
Persons may aPPear by
ogant or in person,
Individuals with visual impair-
ments
mpair
ments, hearing impairments
or other special needs, will
be provided with assistance 1
as necessary, upon request.
Persons desiring assistance
must make such o request nal
less than 48 hours prior to the
time of the public hearing
Jonathan Kanter, AICD.
Director of Planning
273-1747
November 10.199-9
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
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DATE: November 16 1999
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Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York, that the following Notice has been duly posted on the sign
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The Ithaca Journal.
Notice of Public Hearings to be held by the Town of Ithaca Planning Board in the Town of Ithaca
Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street, Ithaca, New York, on Tuesday, November 16, 1999
commencing at 7:30 P.M., as per attached.
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Town of Ithaca.
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