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MAY 6. 1997
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on Tuesday, May 6, 1997, in Town
Hall, 126 East Seneca Street, Ithaca, New York at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairperson Fred Wilcox, James Ainslie, Herbert Finch, Robert Kenerson, Eva
Hoffmann, Gregory Bell, Jonathan Kanter (Director of Planning), John Barney
(Attorney for the Town), Daniel Walker (Director of Engineering), JoAnn Cornish
(Planner), Geri Tierney (Planner).
ALSO PRESENT: Charles Pomada, Peter Demjanec, Andrea Coby, Tom Salm, Peter
Trowbridge, Larry Hoffman, Tom Hoard, John Yntema, Chris Gulick,
Evan Monkemeyer, Terrence Roswick, Roy Esnard, David Herrick, Paul
Vidovich, Jamal Rossi, Katie Donovan.
Chairperson Wilcox declared the meeting duly opened at 7:36 p.m., and accepted, for the
record, the Secretary's Affidavit of Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public Hearings in Town
Hall and the Ithaca Journal on April 28, 1997, and April 30, 1997, together with the Secretary's
Affidavit of Service by Mail of said Notice upon the various neighbors of the properties under
discussion, as appropriate, upon the Clerks of the City of Ithaca, Town of Danby, and the Town of
•Ithaca, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Planning, upon the Tompkins County
Commissioner of Public Works, and upon the applicants and /or agents, as appropriate, on May 2,
1997. (Affidavit of Posting and Publication is hereto attached as Exhibit #1.)
Chairperson Wilcox read the Fire Exit Regulations to those assembled, as required by the
New York State Department of State, Office of Fire Prevention and Control.
AGENDA ITEM: PERSONS TO BE HEARD
There being no one present to speak, Chairperson Wilcox closed this segment of the meeting.
AGENDA ITEM: SEQR DETERMINA
LOCATED AT 120 EAST KING ROAD
Chairperson Wilcox duly opened the above - mentioned matter at 7 :38 p.m., and read aloud
from the Agenda.
Peter Demjanec, Architect, stated that the Montessori School would like to build an addition
to their existing facility at 120 East King Road. The proposed addition is located on the northeast
corner of the existing structure in an area that is flat and covered with stone. This area contains two
play structures that would be relocated to the south of the building on another flat graded area.
• Mr. Demjanec stated that in terms of the environmental issues, there is no vegetation in the
proposed area, so the plantings would not be changed in the area. The drainage on the site is a
small swale which is shown on the site plan labeled A2. A series of spot elevations tracked the
swale into an existing 15 inch culvert under the parking area to an outfall drainage ditch at the
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northwest corner. On the adjacent property uphill there is a drainage swale intercepting water
coming to the property to the east. The drainage would remain as is and untouched. The area
where the addition would be located is approximately 2 '/2 feet higher than the nearest drainage
swale. Water on the roof would be gathered in gutters and taken to the existing footing drains, which
enters the 15 inch culvert under the parking area.
Chairperson Wilcox asked if the drainage is sufficient on the property right now.
Mr. Demjanec stated that the Town Engineer has asked for additional grading information in
order to evaluate that. Mr. Demjanec stated that, in his opinion, the drainage for this area would
always be a problem. The drainage mechanisms are the swales located on the Monkemeyer
property, which intercepts water from the east and diverts it around the existing parking lots. The
drainage swale on the Montessori property sits at the toe of the slope by the Monkemeyer property,
and that takes care of any residual water to the east and diverts it into the 15 inch culvert.
Mr. Demjanec stated that the spot elevations show an area which is approximately flat. The
inverted swale is actually 105. The next point uphill is 105.2 and then the next point beyond that is
also 105.2. The third point is 105.3. Between the three points, 105.2, 105.2, and 105.3, it is dead
flat. There is standing water in this drainage ditch on occassions. This is a matter that could be
rectified. Some local grading could take care of one flat spot. Mr. Demjanec stated that he does not
• perceive any drainage problems in this specific area.
Charles Pomada, General Contractor, stated that he has done projects for the Montessori
School in the past, and has added several truck loads of gravel, stone, and various perforated solid
pipes to drain water around the rest of the building, except for the area east of the new addition. A
new drain has been installed to intercept water around the rest of the building, and they flow into a
gutter on East King Road. The addition that was done on the north side for storage, has large footer
drains and stone that brings a lot of water to the north parking lot. The flow is continuous at this
point, and is well maintained. There has been a lot of improvements in the past few years,
considering the South Hill clay conditions and the various springs and ponds that lie under South Hill.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that it might be an improvement, but it is still a problem. He visited
the site three different times. At the east side of the site there was standing water, and there was
green matter growing in the standing water. Chairperson Wilcox stated that he was not pleased to
see the standing water with green stuff in it, especially in and around a school. The drainage needs
to be dealt with and would be further addressed as part of the proposed resolution.
Planner Geri Tierney stated that she visited the site twice, and both times there was standing
water in that ditch. The standing water appears to be there a significant percentage of the time.
According to the drawings, it appears that the culvert is low enough for water to actually drain, but
it does not appear to be that way. The culvert appears to be too high to take the water from the
•ditch. This is something the Board should consider to look at. The culvert in question is located
under the basketball court that appeared to be higher than the ditch.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by Robert Kenerson:
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED•
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination of
environmental significance in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality Review
Act for the above referenced action as proposed and, therefore, an Environmental Impact Statement
will not be required.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Wilcox called for a vote.
AYES - Wilcox, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Bell, Hoffmann.
NAYS - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
(NOTE: The adopted resolution is hereto attached as Exhibit #2.)
Chairperson Wilcox duly closed the SEQR Determination for the addition to the Montessori
School at 7:46 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND
• RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS REGARDING SPECIAL
APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A 1 180 +/= SQUARE FOOT ADDITION
PETER DEMJANEC R.A AGENT
Chairperson Wilcox declared the above -noted matter duly opened at 7:47 p.m., and read
aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted above.
Mr. Demjanec stated that the Board was supplied with a site plan, a floor plan of what the
proposed addition will contain, and elevation drawings for the exterior of the building. The site plan
was generated from a plan that was approved by the Town when the Montessori School was
originally built. Some of the things from that period of time, such as the position of the building and
the tax parcel number were part of the original plans.
Mr. Demjanec stated that putting an addition on the proposed structure was contemplated at
that period of time. Looking at the site plan from the King Road side, there are dashed areas
marking future expansions. The Montessori School is now working on that future expansion. Some
things have changed in regards to the location that everyone had contemplated when the building
was built. It no longer seems desirable.
•Mr. Demjanec stated that the two classrooms fronting on East King Road love the exposure
and the exterior patios. This is also part of how they conduct their classes. Blocking and blinding
them by these additions is not particularly delightful. As an alternative, the school is asking to build
the addition on the east side behind the multi - purpose room.
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Mr. Demjanec stated that the additional classroom would be for nine to 12 year olds. The
classroom addition would be 782 square feet, and would be smaller than the classroom contained
in the main body of the building. It also has two small lesson rooms, kitchen, and an exit hall that
that connects to the main circulation through the building.
Mr. Demjanec stated that the exterior elevations are developed to be the same in detail and
proportioned as the main body of the existing building, such as the exterior finish materials, the
slopes of the roofs, gabbling of the roof, etc. When the addition is built the entire footprint would be
approximately 11,360 square feet, which is a bit more than the permissible coverage.
Mr. Demjanec stated that the Montessori School is scheduled for a variance hearing with the
Zoning Board of Appeals, both for excessive coverage and for the 22 foot side yard rather than the
40 foot the school would be required. A line across the plan parallel to the east boundary shows the
40 foot line. The school received the required variances from New York State for the fire areas.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she is puzzled to hear that this new classroom would
be for nine to 12 years old. She thought that age group was going to be in the building across the
road.
Andrea Coby, Administrator of the Montessori
• would be for 12 to 14 year olds.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she has
folk dancing in the multi use room. She assumed the
is nice because there is cross ventilation on both
eliminate this ventilation.
School, stated that the house across the street
visited the site several times in the evening for
multi use room used as a gym for the children
sides of the room. The addition walls would
Mr. Demjanec stated that Ms. Hoffmann was right. He made the same observations that the
two classrooms on East King Road apply to the gym as well. The teachers who teach in the school
and the students at the school, to them their homes are their classrooms. The multipurpose room
is a place used for specific activities on occassions. There would be less of a penalty to the users
of the building to change the character and the nature of the multipurpose room than there would
be to change one of the classrooms.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the school would be doing something else for the ventilation
being lost, such as fans.
Mr. Demjanec stated that nothing has been thought of at this time.
Chairperson Wilcox opened the Public Hearing.
Evan Monkemeyer, 132 East King Road, stated that the addition to the Montessori School
would be great for the Town, and the Planning Board should move forward to help the school grow.
It should also be great for the neighborhood. Mr. Monkemeyer stated that the Board should discuss
the further expansion possibilities of this site, and discuss the issue of the 1.5 acres of land that was
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proposed as a Town park. Whether or not the school purchases the land, he believes the school
has a bigger interest in it. This would be meeting some of the Town's requirements for expansion
in the future. Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he whole heartily supports this expansion, and he thinks
it is a terrific idea.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that he is very bothered by the expansion because of the coverage
on the property. The children need areas to play outside and areas to run. He was looking at areas
for the children to play and have fun. While walking around the site in the front of the school there
is an island of trees and a path for walking around it, but do children have fun there. There are trees
and shrubbery that children.cannot play in. There is poor drainage on the back side of the existing
building, so it is not usable for a play area. There is a small hole in the ground where the water
drains to the northwest, and there is a large depression in the ground that is dangerous.
Chairperson Wilcox pointed out on the map entitled "Montessori School - Site Plan, Drawing
A2" prepared by Peter Demjanec dated March 27, 1997 and revised April 28, 1997, the areas of
concern to him. Chairperson Wilcox stated that he visited the site on three different occasions. The
third site visit he took his ten year old son, and asked where would the children want to play at the
school. A flat area was identified by the existing trees, but that was not good because the children
would be on both sides of the road. Another area was identified, but it was too close to the road.
If two boys or two girls wanted to play catch with a baseball, there would be no place to do it. There
is no place for children to go outside and be kids. Chairperson Wilcox stated that this bothers him
tremendously, enough for him not to be in favor of the addition unless the situation could be
mitigated some how.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that Mr. Monkemeyer mentioned the proposed park area is in
discussions right now, between being a Town of Ithaca Park or possibly sold to the Montessori
School. If the 1.5 acres could be consolidated with the Montessori School property then his
concerns would be solved for an area where children could run and play. Another possibility could
be to turn the 1.5 acres into a Town Park for the children to play on also.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that besides the coverage, areas for children to play, and the
drainage issues, there are other issues that need to be resolved. Chairperson Wilcox stated that this
bothers him enough to be against the resolution as proposed unless there are mitigations done.
Board Member Herbert Finch asked if the administrator of the school could explain how they
handle the recreation.
Mr. Demjanec stated that he wanted to make a few observations. The school would be going
to the Zoning Board of Appeals for an 11.1 percent lot coverage variance. The situation should be
mitigated by the fact that it is an open area with adjacent land contemplated as a park land sometime
in the future.
Mr. Demjanec stated that he would suggest since this was approved some time ago with the
thought and the intent of putting an addition onto the building, that the owner is not here seeking
anything that was not already contemplated originally in 1987. At that point and time the owner was
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approved for an 11,300 square foot footprint excluding the two additions. What the owner is asking
for is in fact the 11,300 square foot footprint. The coverage issue is a Zoning Board of Appeals
issue, but relevant to planning.
Attorney for the Town John Barney asked Mr. Demjanec when the Montessori School came
in the last time, if the site plan approved was for 11,000 square feet.
Mr. Demjanec stated that the approved site plan contained 11,300 square feet and two
additions. The elevation drawings show future expansion that was approved at that point and time.
Attorney Barney stated that they were only shown as future expansions, so they were not
approved as part of the site plan.
Mr. Demjanec stated that it is unclear to him, because the approval says 11,300 square feet.
He and Mr. Kanter spent time going through the school file finding the tally of what was approved
in 1987.
Attorney Barney asked Mr. Demjanec if the addition had been placed on the south side of the
building, it could have *been done without any action by this Board.
• Mr. Demjanec stated that the owner is asking for permission to put this addition in a different
place other than what was originally contemplated.
Attorney Barney asked if the site plan that was provided to the Board, minus the addition
shown, was given final site plan approval with the words "future expansion" on it.
Mr. Demjanec responded, yes.
Attorney Barney stated that is a misinterpretation of the law. The previous site plan would be
the one that received final approval. The location, siting of a new addition, and the expansion, would
not be approved until this was shown on a site plan and that site plan was approved.
Director of Planning Jonathan Kanter stated that he does not believe there was a reference
to the 11,300 square foot in the original resolution. There was a listing or tabulation of space, but
it was not linked to any resolution or any official approval. It was just a piece of paper in the file. He
could not say what the approved resolution says other than what the site plan shows.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if this was the approval that was done in 1987.
Mr. Demjanec responded, yes. On the issue of playground, he identifies this in a slightly
different fashion. He attends meetings at the Montessori School during recess, which means that
• his car is often parked in the area that the children are playing in. The faculty puts orange cones
across the road to indicate that this is play time and they can not drive in the drive way. Mr.
Demjanec stated that in the back where the existing play structures are located is a very modest
area. The size of the classroom that is contemplated is the same size as the Town's board room.
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It is not a viable play area for outdoor ball games for the group. It is a viable play area for play
structures, but a play structure does not need a large area. The issue of finding a large play area
is one that the site has whether or not this addition is built. He believes the school is working on that.
Ms. Coby stated that when the school moved to this property, they assumed they would need
a play structure. The site was such that there were not a lot of places appealing for children to play,
so they purchased a very expensive play structure. The older children never use the play structure,
which is where the proposed addition would be. The pre - school children use the play structure.
Through the trees in the front there are a lot of paths the children love taking. While thinking about
this proposed addition, we are thinking of moving the play structure to another area for the children
to still use it, so it would not create any loss of recess time for the children. The issue of more space,
it would be the hope to purchase the .Monkemeyer property.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that he saw the limitations of playing through his ten year old son's
eyes.
Ms. Coby stated that some of the wonderful things that the property has to offer is that it has
a great sledding hill, and they have also used Mr. Monkemeyer's field to the west for cross country
skiing during the winter. There are things that the property offers in terms of recess that other
schools do not have, but certainly a real soccer field would be great.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that a full size soccer field is, not what he is going after. He just
wanted room for the children to run and kick a ball.
Ms. Coby stated that the children currently play soccer in the front grassy area between the
driveways. Soccer is a hot sport at the Montessori School, and the children play soccer everyday.
Ms. Coby stated that this is what they have had since the beginning, and they use cones and saw
horses to block off the driveway.during recess. This has worked, but obviously more space would
be better.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that Mr. Monkemeyer would be presenting a sketch plan review
for a nursery next to the school later in the meeting. There might be a possibility that the secondary
road between the school and the proposed nursery may become a secondary access road to the
nursery. This would change the dynamics again creating more traffic here, and he does not want
children chasing balls into the road.
Attorney Barney stated that prior approvals of this property do not make any reference to the
11,000 square feet. It makes reference to the map, but there is nothing on the map.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that there was a separate listing in the file, not dated or
•referring to anything, which had the total listing of the floor area. He can not say that this was part
of the approved site plan.
Attorney Barney stated that in 1987, at the time of the prior approval, this might pre -date the
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time when the Planning Board was required to review site plans as part of special approvals. This
was an amendment to the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance in 1990. There was no formal site plan
approval at that time, it was just a subdivision approval and a recommendation to the Zoning Board
of Appeals for a special approval for a school use.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that in the years since then, the Board has become more
sensitive to wet lands and drainage problems associated with them. She does not know if it is fair
to compare the conditions under the earlier approval with the proposal at this time.
Board Member Bell stated that on the elevation drawing A3, the proposed new structure is
located on the left side of the drawing, and behind that there is a shadow of another roof line. He
is not sure what the other roof line is.
Mr. Demjanec stated that would be the roof line of the existing classroom gable. On the
proposed east elevation the end gable of the existing classrooms, what is seen in the shadow.
Board Member Bell asked if the new roof line would look better if the angles were the same.
Mr. Demjanec stated that the angles would be the same. The roof lines would not be parallel.
. Chairperson Wilcox stated that this is a Public Hearing, and asked if anyone else from the
public wished to speak. No one spoke. Chairperson Wilcox closed the Public Hearing, and brought
the matter back to the Board for further discussion.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that he does not know what decision the Board would make. The
Board could vote on the proposed resolution with some minor changes to the site plan such as the
parcel number. The marking of the fire lane is an issue. If the sense of the Board is not to approval
the resolution, he could offer some verbiage that would make him happy.
Board Member James Ainslie asked what is the status of the proposed park land area.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that the issue is still in negotiations. The details have not
been worked out yet, and future meetings with Mr. Monkemeyer would be arranged.
Board Member Ainslie stated that Mr. Monkemeyer mentioned he was in favor of what the
Montessori School was going to do, and he does own the other land. Mr. Ainslie asked if there is
a lot of differences.
Attorney Barney stated that the difference is 50 feet.
Board Member Ainslie asked if there would be any resolution of this issue.
0 Attorney Barney stated that Mr. Monkemeyer's attorney suggested to meet next week for
further discussions.
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Mr. Pomada asked if the land becomes a Town park or becomes free to be sold, would this
solve Mr. Wilcox's problems.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that it would solve his objections.
Attorney Barney stated that this land sits in limbo. At this point, the land can not be conveyed
to the Montessori School because the subdivision map shows the land would be conveyed to the
Town. There needs to be a resolution one way or other as to making this a Town park or not. Until
this is resolved completely, there is a little reluctance on the Town's part to take too much on faith
anymore.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by James Ainslie:
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED•
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements for
Preliminary Site Plan Approval, as shown on the Preliminary Site Plan Checklist,
having determined from the materials presented that such waiver will result in neither
a significant alteration of the purpose of site plan control nor the policies enunciated
or implied by the Town Board, and
• 2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary Site Plan Approval for the
proposed building of a 1,180 +/- square foot addition to the Montessori School, as
shown on the site plan entitled "Montessori School, 120 East King Road, Ithaca, New
York 14850" prepared by Peter Demjanec, revised April 28, 1997, and other
application materials, conditioned upon the following:
a. The applicant submit, prior to Final Site Plan Approval, a record of application
for and approval status of all necessary permits from County, State, and /or
Federal agencies;
b. The applicant receive, prior to Final Site Plan Approval, variances from the
Town Zoning Board of Appeals for insufficient side yard setback and exceeding
the maximum permitted building coverage in an R -30 Residence District, as well
as Special Approval;
C. The applicant submit, prior to Final Site Plan Approval, .sufficient information
describing existing and proposed site topography, a grading plan if any grading
is to occur, and a drainage plan, all subject to review and approval by the Town
Engineer;
• d. The applicant submit, prior to Final Site Plan Approval, information describing
construction details of all proposed structures, walkways, and other
improvements.
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AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
1. That the Planning Board, in making its recommendation to the Zoning Board of
Appeals, determines the following:
a. There is a need for the proposed use in the proposed location, as demonstrated
by the applicant;
b. The existing and probable future character of the neighborhood will not be
adversely affected as a result of the proposed project;
C. The specific proposed change in land use as a result of the proposed projects
is in accordance with a comprehensive plan of development for the Town of
Ithaca.
2. That the Planning Board reports to the Zoning Board of Appeals" its recommendation
that the aforementioned request for Special Approval be approved.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that site plan A2 needs correction of the tax parcel number. Site
visits to the school showed cars parked on one side of the entry way in the fire lane. He would like
• more signage or markings on the ground for fire lanes.
Board Member Bell asked if there are any signs marking the fire lane.
Planner Tierney stated that there is a sign in front of the building stating bus unloading and
loading. There is a sign at the corner that says no parking to corner, but there is no explanation of
what it is referring to. There is no signage indicating a fire lane.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that the entrance to the Montessori School is not on their
property; it is on the Monkemeyer property.
Director of Planning Kanter asked if the Montessori School has an easement across the
Monkemeyer property for access.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that the school has a right -of -way.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that the reference to future expansion on the south side
of the building on the original site plan should be deleted from the current site plan. If the Board is
approving this new addition that already exceeds R -30 requirements, the Board does not want to see
future additions in this area. The words "future expansions" and outlines should be deleted from the
site plan.
• Director of Engineering Daniel Walker stated that condition 2c should include "adequate
drainage around the proposed building site and the existing drainage outlet that drains under the
northeast corner", between the drainage plan and all subject to the review and approval by the Town
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• Engineer. Mr. Walker asked if the addition would be a slab on 9 rade structure.
Mr. Demjanec stated that the addition would be a slab on grade which is the same
construction as the adjacent multi - purpose room. The classroom wing closer to East King Road is
a crawl space structure, but that is not what is proposed.
Board Member Bell stated that the drawing A2 shows the driveway loop with parking spaces
mapped out. The issue of having enough play. space comes from the sweeping driveway that
gobbles up too much land. If the school was sited further towards East King Road that would solve
more of the problems of the play area. It would be more feasible to deal with the configuration of the
driveway. This might help eliminate Mr. Wilcox's concern by eliminating the parking in this area and
add it to the end of the main parking area and eliminating the loop of the driveway itself.
Mr. Demjanec stated that the immediate response to Mr. Bell's
wonderful idea, but the owners reminded him of two things. One thing is
buses onto and off the property. School buses do not turn around in a
thing is that unfortunately parking on those occasions when they have
those few places for parking that are there are used more often than the
to take that area for additional play area, but it would not be possible.
idea is that it sounds like a
that they need to get school
very small area. The other
groups does over flow, and
it. It seems like a good idea
Director of Engineering Walker stated that school buses can not legally back up unless there
is a supervisor outside the bus. Mr. Walker asked if there is adequate parking for the use of the
facility.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that they meet the parking requirements in the Zoning
Ordinance.
Director of Engineering Walker asked what are the parking requirements in the Zoning
Ordinance.
Planner Tierney stated that there should be two parking spaces per classroom.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that he counted 26 delineated parking spaces.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that the Codes and Ordinances Committee is looking at
the standards of parking spaces needed for facilities.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Wilcox called for a vote.
AYES -Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Bell.
NAYS - Wilcox.
• ABSTAIN - Hoffmann.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
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• (NOTE: The adopted resolution is hereto attached as Exhibit #3.)
Chairperson Wilcox duly closed the matter of Preliminary Site Plan Approval for the
Montessori School at 8:35 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM.
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Chairperson Wilcox duly opened the above - mentioned matter at 8:37 p.m., and read aloud
from the Agenda. At the last meeting the Board thoroughly discussed the two parking lot additions
and drainage patterns. The Board did not discuss the addition to Ford Hall and the effect it would
have on J -Lot. The SEAR discussion should be kept to the issues that were not discussed before.
The Board received additional material on the drainage on the Raponi property. The Board also
received a revised drawing of the fill site.
Larry Hoffman, HOLT Architects, stated that he is the project architect for Ford Hall. The
addition of Ford Hall is a non growth project. They currently have approximately 500 students, and
they would like to continue with that amount. They have approximately 75 faculty and staff people,
and it would remain the same. They have approximately 350 performances a year in this building.
Most of these performances take place in the Ford Hall Auditorium of 730 seats with the addition
•adding 250 for the recital hall. The remainder of the building would be classrooms, offices, studios,
etc. that the school of music desperately needs. The number of concerts and recitals in the building
may go up slightly, because student recitals are given in the chapel currently. The effect on the
overall use of the building would not be substantial. Many of the student recitals are not highly
attended.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the footprint of the proposed building has been changed to be a little
bit smaller. The area of the building would be a bit larger than before. It was previously advertised
as 55,000 square feet, but in fact it is 65,000 square feet. The footprint of the building is actually
getting smaller, not bigger.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the other change that was made was the location of the bridge that
connects J -Lot to Ford Hall. These are two separate projects that Ithaca College is asking for one
action on. The buildings being proposed later on would eliminate current parking areas used for
Ford Hall. Ithaca College needs to make changes for parking arrangements, the vehicular
circulation, and pedestrian circulation to and from the building. Most of this discussion would be
addressed by Peter Trowbridge. Patrons coming to recital performances would have the option of
entering the building from the west to a new traffic circle. There would be a new paved plaza beyond
that traffic circle. Beyond the traffic circle there is a service route. This would provide access to the
loading dock to the library and for Ford Hall. One of the things at Ford Hall now which is less than
satisfactory is that there is no good access to the building for someone in a wheel chair. For people
to enter Ford Hall at the present time, they would immediately go down a flight of stairs. The new
access to the building would be level for wheelchairs.
Mr. Hoffman stated that parking would need to be provided for people to attend performances.
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• The plan to expand J -Lot would permit this to happen. There would be stairs and an elevator P e ator to
arrive at the entrance at the plaza level, or they could get off at the third level in the back of the Ford
Hall auditorium.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the pedestrian bridge would provide access from residential halls to
lower campus. A student in a wheelchair could come across the bridge to the elevator at grade, and
then continue through to central campus. The addition would be on four levels. There would be a
new grade level entrance on the northwest corner. There would be a new main entrance to the
building on the southwest corner of the building that would provide a major entrance to the main
level. The bridge would be constructed in a way for large vehicles such as fire trucks to go under.
The basic materials for the buildings, and the expression that Ithaca College wants to create for
Ford Hall, would be red brick and glass. Ithaca College thinks the addition would fit into the rest of
campus, and it would certainly provide the needed facilities that are already being offered as well as
providing wheelchair accessibility.
Peter Trowbridge, Landscape Architect, stated that there are large horseshoe stairs on the
hill side immediately south of Ford Hall. As Mr. Hoffmann stated, the current entrance comes in
between floors. Driving by Ford Hall at the the present time, there is a mound in front of the existing
building. In order to correct that, approximately seven feet of grade would be taken away. The
stairs would no longer function once the grade is modified. Subsequently, once the stairs are
demolished there would be replantings on the slope. There would be regrading to a minor degree
and replanting in all those highly unstable places at the toe of the slope, and they would be hydro
seeding the remaining part that has been left somewhat natural. Mr. Hoffmann mentioned the
parking associated with Ford Hall. There is no net parking increase. There would be new parking
spaces, but the parking spaces being built would replace parking that currently exists on campus
covered by other building programs, as well as moving some parking spaces back across from
Axiohm. The parking used by patrons for performances at Ford Hall would utilize space permitted
by staff and faculty. The assumption that staff and faculty would leave between 5:00 p.m. and 6:00
p.m. with a performance at 7:00 p.m.. There would not be new spaces for the building itself.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the current path that goes between Ford Hall and the Health Center
has a whole series of steps in it. With this change those steps go away.
Planner Cornish asked what would be the grade of the new walk.
Mr. Trowbridge stated that the steepest part of the walk would be approximately 12 percent.
Along Hill Center near the gym it is less than eight percent, but they are trying to retain a tree in that
area.
Board Member Bell asked Mr. Trowbridge to point out on the map the route people in
wheelchairs could take to get from J -Lot to central campus.
aMr. Trowbridge pointed out on an enlarged map the route they could take.
Tom Salm, Vice President of Business at Ithaca College, stated that right now the only
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accessible way out of the Towers is actually on the north side
a great improvement for Ithaca College.
MAY 6, 1997
The addition to Ford Hall would be
Board Member Bell stated that since the last meeting the bridge has been moved, and asked
why the bridge was moved.
Mr. Hoffman stated that by moving the bridge this would provide access to central campus
and Ford Hall. Having the bridge in the previous proposed location made it difficult to get emergency
vehicles under. The further the bridge is moved to the east the more clearance it gives for
emergency vehicles.
Mr. Salm stated that in the handing off of this project from one architectural firm to another,
there was a re- evaluation of a number of things within the building as well as the site. That is what
has happened in the moving of the bridge. The dean and the assistant.dean of the School of Music
approved these changes.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the reconfiguration of the road would change the access
to the library for students.
Mr. Salm stated that students spend a lot of time in both buildings. The pedestrian access
• will not change at all. All the entrances to the library would stay the same. There would be one
additional connection between the Ford Hall building into the library. This would be another
improvement as far as Ithaca College is concerned because it involves the ability for wheelchairs to
be in Ford Hall and able to cross into the library. Ithaca College plans to move music periodicals to
the library so it would be contiguous to the new space where recitals would be occurring. Vehicular
access would remain the same, except there would be better access in terms of the bridge. There
is approximately 20 parking spaces behind the library and Ithaca College plans to eliminate most of
them, but a few would be retained.
Planner Cornish asked Mr. Salm if he could clarify the parking behind the library. Would
Ithaca College be eliminating most of the parking spaces used for service vehicles.
Mr. Salm stated that it would be used for service vehicles for the main loadin dock to the
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library. This access could also be used for fire truck accessibility, and service trucks to service the
building. The new Ford Hall addition would have a new loading dock in back of the building, and the
intent is for a larger truck to load and unload for bigger concerts.
Planner Cornish asked if the ballisters that are on the music plaza are for pedestrian
protection against any vehicle traffic.
Mr. Salm stated that they would try to discourage as much traffic as they can except for
• service traffic.
Director of Planning Kanter asked if the description of the current square footage of Ford Hall
would be 65,000 square foot from 55,000, and further asked if this would change the SEQR. There
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is one part of the Full Environmental Assessment Form that would need to be changed. The
description of action states 55,000 square feet for construction.
Chairperson Wilcox asked what the increase of the footprint would be that the SEAR refers
to.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the building footprint is virtually unchanged. There used to be 45
degree angle stairways on the northwest corner of the building that took up more area than what
they currently had. The building has not grown. It had to do with the way the square footage was
taken off.
Attorney Barney asked Mr. Hoffman how they got 55,000 additional square feet without
changing the footprint.
Mr. Hoffman stated that there would be more space on the third level of the building than there
was previously. The footprint only described how much ground is covered, but there is more space
on the upper floors.
Tom Hoard, HOLT Architects, stated that the 51,000 square foot increase shown on the
footprint is probably a mistake on the document. The actual footprint would actually increase by
25,000 square feet. What Mr. Hoffman was referring to is the footprint is not increasing over what
we were talking about last time, but it is increasing over the existing building.
Attorney Barney asked if the correct figures should be increased by approximately 25,000
square feet.
Mr. Hoard stated that was correct, and that the accumulation of several floors would be
65,000 square feet.
Mr. Hoffman stated that 65,000 square feet is the correct number. One of the major features
of this building is a large atrium that is inside the building. Looking at the western facade there is
a whole series of rooms behind it, but those rooms do not abut directly up against the building behind
it.
Director of Engineering Walker stated that the Engineering Department usually tries to go for
gross square footage.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the addition to Ford Hall should be 65,000 gross square feet.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that the Planning Board received a revised document of where the
fill would be placed. The document shows the placement of the fill and location.
Mr. Trowbridge stated that at the last meeting there were concerns about the relationship to
the abutting properties. This document shows the distance between the fill area and the neighboring
properties. The original proposal was high schematic, and the second generation shows a much
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Planner Cornish stated that there was some concerns about the visual look of the fill site. The
new document shows a softer looking slope.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by Robert Kenerson:
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED•
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination of
environmental significance in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality Review
Act for the above referenced action as proposed and, therefore, an Environmental Impact Statement
will not be required.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that the 55,000 +/- square foot addition should be changed to
65,000 +/- square foot addition in the first whereas. Also, in the third whereas, April 15, 1997 should
be added next to May 6,1997.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Wilcox called for a vote.
• AYES - Wilcox, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Bell, Hoffmann.
NAYS - None.
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The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
(NOTE: The adopted resolution is hereto attached as Exhibit #4.)
Chairperson Wilcox duly closed the SEQR
College at 9:14 p.m.
Determination for the Ford Hall Addition at Ithaca
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND
RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS REGARDING SPECIAL
APPROVAL FOR: 1) A PROPOSED +/- 55,000 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO FORD HALL TO
HOUSE ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS PRACTICE STUDIOS REHEARSAL ROOMS A +/- 250
SEAT RECITAL HALL AND OTHER FACILITIES FOR THE ITHACA COLLEGE SCHOOL OF
MUSIC; 2) A PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING "J LOT" PARKING LOT FROM 160
SPACES TO 354 SPACES: AND 3) A PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING "M LOT"
PARKING LOT FROM 198 SPACES TO 230 SPACES LOCATED ON THE ITHACA COLLEGE
CAMPUS TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NOS. 41 -1 -30.2 -30.5 AND -30.6 RESIDENCE
DISTRICT R45, ITHACA COLLEGE OWNER; ROBERT O'BRIEN HOFFMAN O'BRIEN LOOK
TAUBE. & CHIANG P.C., AGENT (NOTE: THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS POSTPONED FROM
THE APRIL 15 1997 PLANNING BOARD MEETING .1
Chairperson Wilcox duly opened the above -noted matter at 9:15 p.m., and read aloud from
the Notice of Public Hearings as posted, published, and as noted.
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Chris Gulick, Ithaca College Student, stated that he is representing a number of concerns
from students concerning these proposals with the parking lots. The students have brought these
concerns to Student Government and President Whelan. They have joined together in the concerns
of these parking lots. The M -Lot is proposed to be in front of Boothroyd Hall, which has the first year
programs. They have opposed this proposal for a number of reasons because of invasion of green
space, the lack of space for first year programs, etc., as well as the expansion of more asphalt. The
students understand that there is going to be a new fitness center there, but they do not think the
parking lot needs to be right in front of the fitness center. They think some alternatives could be
reached. In a memorandum sent to the administration, they listed six alternatives. The
memorandum is from the Student Government, Resident Hall Association, and the Environmental
Society. They also have concerns with the J -Lot expansion. If there was any way that the Axiohm
parking lot could be left for a couple more years that would be preferable. Another goal of theirs is
the development of a Transportation Plan while construction is being done. The Transportation Plan
would be made up of students, faculty, administration, and staff. They recognize that there is
already a traffic committee, but maybe a special committee could be developed especially for the
Transportation Plan.
Chairperson Wilcox asked if the goal is to change the policy of Ithaca College.
Mr. Gulick stated that was correct.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that this is a step forward by Ithaca College to expand their campus,
and he thinks this would put South Hill on the map. It is going to mean more jobs would be made
available. There are some concerns about parking, and he thinks the campus needs to be more
centralized. The parking needs to be on campus rather than off. The plan presented by Ithaca
College looks beautiful, and the Planning Board should move forward swiftly and give their
approvals.
Chairperson Wilcox asked Mr. Monkemeyer if this would benefit him personally.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he thinks it would benefit everyone on South Hill.
Director of Planning Kanter asked if the Board could have an actual height figure on the Ford
Hall addition.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the ground floor of the building is at the elevation of 549. The fourth
floor of the building would beat 602. That particular floor would have a roof 22 feet above it to bring
it to 624. If people are standing on J -Lot they would be able to look over the roof of the building.
Chairperson Wilcox asked if the height of the addition would 75 feet.
Mr. Hoffman stated that was correct.
Attorney Barney asked if the first floor would be partially on grade or below grade.
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Mr. Hoffman stated that there is a ground floor to the building. The lower level of the building
is accessed directly at grade from the northwest corner.
Chairperson Wilcox asked, assuming the Planning Board approves this motion, if Ithaca
College would be going to the Zoning Board of Appeals on May 14, 1997.
Mr. Hoffman responded, yes.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she is concerned about the number of parking spaces
especially in J -Lot expansion. She thinks it would be a good idea to try and encourage less cars on
campus, so .there would not be so many parking spaces needed.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that this is a Public Hearing, and asked if anyone else from the
public wished to speak. No one spoke. Chairperson Wilcox closed the Public Hearing, and asked
if anyone was prepared to offer a motion.
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by Herbert Finch:
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board grants Preliminary Site Plan Approval for
Drawings labeled "Ithaca College School of Music Addition ", Sheet No. L1 entitled
"Landscape Plan" dated 3/17/97, revised 4/25/97, Sheet No. L2 entitled "Grading Plan"
dated 3/17/97, revised 4/28/97, Sheet No. L3 entitled "Landscape Details ", Sheet No.
C1 entitled "Utility Plan ", and Sheet No. C2 entitled "Utility and Pavement Details ", all
dated 3/17/97, Drawings labeled "Ithaca College J -Lot & M -Lot Parking Expansion ",
Sheet Nos. C01 & CO2 entitled "J -Lot Layout and Demolition Plan ", Sheet Nos. CO3
& C04 entitled "J -Lot Grading & Utility Plan ", Sheet No. C05 entitled "J -Lot Striping
and Signage Plan", Sheet No. C06 entitled "M -Lot Plans ", Sheet No. C07 entitled
"Utility and Pavement Details, all dated 3/17/97, Sheet No. L1 entitled "Landscape &
Lighting Plan" dated 3/17/97„ revised 4/25/97 and Sheet No. L2 entitled "Landscape
& Lighting Plan and Details", dated 3/17/97, and a plan entitled "Proposed Ithaca
College Fill Site" dated 4/28/97, subject to the following conditions, all to be submitted
prior to final site plan approval:
a. Submission of construction details of all proposed structures including, but not
limited to, curbing, including granite curbs, and mountable curbs, retaining
walls, ramps, including ramps with guard rails, sidewalks, stairways, and
pavement.
b. Submission of a detailed sediment and erosion control plan to be approved by
the Director of Engineering for the Town of Ithaca.
C. That any required variances, including a height variance, be obtained_from the
Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals.
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d. Revision of the site plan for the School of Music, J -Lot & M -Lot parking
expansion to show the limits of disturbance.
e. Revise all drawings so that they are presented as one project package. In
particular, revise page numbering to avoid duplication of page numbers and
consolidate details to avoid duplication.
f. Revise sheet C04, J -Lot Grading and Utility Plan to show symbols of drainage
inlets.
g. Revise sheet L -1, J -Lot & M -Lot Parking Expansion, Landscape and Lighting
Plan to: distinguish between Buffer plantings and Barrier plantings. Both are
referred to in the planting schedule, but only barrier plantings are referred to on
the plan. Indicate on plan slope stabilization and planting for area to be
regraded on the south side of J -Lot extension.
h. Revise Sheet L -2, label as M -Lot Parking Expansion. Revise planting schedule
to reflect actual number of plant materials as shown on the plan. Planting
Schedule lists 19 Primrose Spirea, plan shows 13, Planting Schedule lists 12
Broadmore Junipers, plan shows 6. Correct labeling of Shrub Planting Detail
• (labeled as Light Pole Footer).
I. Revise all drawings to show location of pedestrian bridge and associated walk
from J -Lot, the reconfiguration of the Music Plaza, and the revised building
footprint.
j. Add note to Sheet L -1, J -Lot and M -Lot Parking Expansion, revised Landscape
and Lighting Plan, indicating areas to be hydro seeding with erosion control
netting and allow vegetation to regenerate. (Shown on reduced maps, not
shown of full scale drawings.) Label all barrier and buffer plantings.
k. Revise School of Music Addition Sheet
materials are labeled. Indicate erosion
Planting Schedule to reflect changes in
Addition. Cross reference Landscape PI;
Landscape Details.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
L -1, Landscape Plan, so that all plant
control in appropriate areas. Revise
the north west corner of the Ford Hall
3n and Planting Schedule on Sheet L -3
1. That the Planning Board, in making its recommendation to the Zoning Board of
Appeals, determines the following:
• a. There is a need for the proposed use in the proposed location , as demonstrated
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b. The existing and probable future character of the neighborhood will not be
adversely affected as a result of the proposed project,
C. The specific proposed change in land use as a result of the proposed project
is in accordance with a comprehensive plan of development for the Town of
Ithaca.
2. That the Planning Board reports to the Zoning Board of Appeals its recommendation
that the aforementioned request for Special Approval be approved.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that another provision should be added about showing the bike
rack locations on the sites.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Wilcox called for a vote.
AYES - Wilcox, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Bell, Hoffmann.
NAYS - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
• (NOTE: The adopted resolution is hereto attached as Exhibit #5.)
Chairperson Wilcox duly closed the matter of Preliminary Site Plan Approval for Ithaca College
at 9:35 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM.
WE I I n /MeA IAA rAKIaL NU. 43- 1-3.Z BUSINESS "C"
OWNER; TERRENCE ROSWICK AGENT
Chairperson Wilcox duly opened the above - mentioned matter at 9 :36 p.m., and read aloud
from the Agenda.
Terrence Roswick, Ryan Survey, stated that Mr. Monkemeyer provided two photographs of
the area in question. Mr. Roswick pointed out on photographs supplied by Mr. Monkemeyer the
property in question is located at the corner of East King Road and Route 96B. He also pointed out
there are pine trees from the corner along East King Road and along Route 96B. Mr. Roswick stated
that there is an existing entrance off of Route 96B to the property a short distance from the
intersection. This would include a drive entrance as a loop road to help the circulation for vehicles.
tThe main structure would be in the middle of the loop. In back of the site there would be more
greenhouses, which would be part of Mr. Monkemeyer's long term plan. After discussions with the
Planning Staff, they suggested that the sketch plan show what they envision for the entire site.
Initially there would be one or two greenhouses in the back of the site. The greenhouses would
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probably be constructed before the main structure is added. A service circular drive would go along
the hedge row of trees and wind around the structures back to Route 96B. Mr. Roswick stated that
the types of products that would be sold on this site would include vegetables, plants, shrubs, etc.
The retail space would be consolidated into the built structure. The greenhouses would be mainly
used for storage and growing of plant materials to be sold. The greenhouses would not be used for
retail space for direct sales. Mr. Roswick stated that he is not sure if this would impact the parking
because the real retail space the Planning Staff based the parking calculations on would be
exclusive of the greenhouse. Mr. Roswick stated that this is a brief overview of the proposal, and
he would like to receive some feed back from the Planning Board.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the driveway that is shown on the far right of the drawing
is the driveway to the Montessori School.
Mr. Roswick responded, yes. Mr. Monkemeyer thought of exiting further up by the secondary
road from the Montessori School, but decided to have the entrance /exit drive on Route 96B.
Board Member Kenerson asked how far would the entrance /exit driveway be from the
intersection of East King Road and Route 96B.
Mr. Roswick stated that it would be approximately 400 feet or less.
• Planner Cornish stated that the Environmental to Review Committee (ERC) had a lengthy
discussion about this proposal. Members of the ERC felt that reguiring the location of the main
entrance off of East King Road was not a reasonable request as additional turning movements would
be required to enter the site. However, a secondary access road off of East King Road was
suggested and agreed upon by the ERC.
Board Member Kenerson stated that he thinks Route 96B should not be curb cut anymore
than it has to be.
Board Member Ainslie stated that he would feel better if the turn off for East King Road was
back further so it would accommodate that driveway, but it does not. Mr. Ainslie pointed out on the
photographs where a turn off is for East King Road off of Route 96B, and asked if the turn off lane
could be extended back to the entrance /exit driveway for the site.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that the proposal has the advantage of not requiring additional curb
cut into Route 96B.
Mr. Roswick stated that discussions with the New York State Department of Transportation
(NYSDOT) mentioned that they seem to be agreeable with this because the turning radius would be
minimal.
• Board Member Finch asked if there would be any p 9 planting areas on the site.
Mr. Roswick stated that the site would always be retail and not growing spaces, except for
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some of the growing in the greenhouses. Nothing would be grown outside.
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Board Member Ainslie asked Mr. Monkemeyer when the photographs were taken.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that one photograph was taken in 1984 and the other photograph was
taken in 1994.
etc.
Chairperson Wilcox asked what would be sold at this facility.
Mr. Roswick stated that produce and garden type plants such as shrubs, perineal, annuals,
Chairperson Wilcox asked if fertilizers and equipment such as shovels or rakes would be sold.
Mr. Roswick stated that the facility would be like an old fashion general store that would
service the home gardener.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he would like the main building to have a country store effect.
The plans for the facility indicate one end of the building to be produce and the other end would be
seasonal plantings.
• Planner Cornish asked Mr. Monkemeyer if he anticipates customers entering Y p g the
greenhouses.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that the customers may wonder through the greenhouses when they
are attached to the main structure.
Planner Cornish asked if, in essence, this would be retail space.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that it may be used for retail space later on. The greenhouses could
be considered retail space. If the parking spaces need to be calculated for more spaces, there could
be more parking behind the greenhouses.
Attorney Barney asked what would the storage trailers at the east end of the building be used
for.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that there would be one trailer that would be used for refrigeration for
produce. He would be modifying an existing trailer that would be taken off wheels and dropped
down t9 building height level. This trailer would be fixed to look like a building structure rather than
a trailer. The other storage trailers would be used for materials such as fertilizers and chemicals
away and out of the main building for temporary storage.
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Attorney Barney asked if the sketch plan showed three potential storage trailer sites plus the
refrigeration unit.
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Mr. Monkemeyer responded, yes.
Board Member Ainslie asked if these trailers would be 50 feet long.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that the trailers would be 40 to 50 feet in length.
Board Member Bell asked if the main structure would be a building.
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Mr. Monkemeyer stated that the main structure would be enclosed. The building would be
a year round building, however, the business would only be operating for nine months (March to
December). The inside of the main building would have the rustic look with wood, open ceilings,
rafters, and a metal roof. There would be things hanging from the rafters.
Board Member Bell asked what type of building would the hard good storage be.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that would be a fenced in area with no structures there.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the hard good storage would include any large equipment.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he would not be selling lawn mowers. He would like to have a
• garden center that would act like a home center. He would like to carry items that would serve the
needs of the community.
Board Member Kenerson asked what is the zoning for this corner property.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that currently it is zoned business.
Board Member Ainslie stated that he is concerned about storage trailers, such as West Hill
Fire Station has a storage trailer outside the new building. Gallagher Electric has a storage trailer
along Meadow Street. He thinks the trailers are convenient, but they detract from the area. He is
surprised that the City Planning Department allows Gallagher Electric to have a storage trailer along
Meadow Street.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that the Planning Board has control of that to a certain
degree. Certainly in terms of screening, if they chose to use storage trailers and the Board felt that
it might have an impact on the surrounding neighborhood it could certainly require additional
landscaping that the Board should work out during the review process.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he could put roof and siding on the storage trailers. He is looking
at these trailers for a short term use for the storage facilities. The storage trailers would be off of
wheels and be on cement blocks.
• Board Member Kenerson asked Mr. Monkemeyer if he would be separating this lot out of the
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Mr. Monkemeyer responded, no. This is an unique piece of ground that is evolving as a
planned unit development. There are mixed uses occurring on the site, and there are buildings he
would be proposing other changes to. This garden center and home center would be inviting for the
patrons for both facilities, and it would have seasonal use that would be attractive for all the
seasons. He intends to sell plants to students, Christmas ornaments and wreaths, and the seasons
of the fall. It would be a nice use for the frontage as well as it allows us to maintain the existing trees
he planted 30 years ago.
Board Member Kenerson asked Mr. Monkemeyer if he would be maintaining the loop road
as a private road.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that eventually the connector road from East King Road to Route 96B
would become a Town Road. Eventually this would take care of any traffic problems with the
intersection. There would be an access road that these current proposals could even be terminated
or eliminated in the future, and all the access could be off the loop road that continues around. In
both cases, the distance from that point to the intersection is well over 500 feet, and it is probably
600 to 700 feet down Route 96B. The entrance drive onto Route 96B would probably be better off
with a light to handle traffic flows.
Board Member Bell stated that he does not have a problem with the basic idea, but the loop
• road is the main concern he has. College Circle Apartments has a cul -de -sac, and he thinks that the
loop road should connect to College Circle Apartments. It should look something like a city block.
This would allow people living at the apartments to get to East King Road easier than going to Route
96B. One of the problems traffic planners consistently have to deal with is the whole issue of feeding
traffic onto main arteries. This would allow an alternate route. If there was some type of extra
linkage from East King Road to College Circle Apartments with the loop road, and this would also
open up access to other pieces of land in the area.
Board Member Ainslie asked if Ithaca College students that live at College Circle Apartments,
would travel away from the City.
Board Member Bell stated that this would provide an alternate route for people to use.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that this is in a commercial area, if there was something that
the students from College Circle were interested in, they would want to get there.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that there is a group of buildings to the left called Ithaca Solar
Townhouses. He would be coming in with a proposal to convert these townhouses into a retail
center. As part of that proposal, it would show tying into that loop road as well as tying into the road
to College Circle Apartments for both lanes coming and going. He would need to get their approval
also. This would answer Mr. Bell's question in terms of linking the system together for pedestrian
and vehicular traffic. Mr. Monkemeyer stated that when he meets with the Town next week in
regards to the park issue, he has a proposal that shows the loop road that would come off East King
Road with a road proposal for connection to Ithaca College.
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Board Member Hoffmann asked if these plans would be shared with the Montessori School
d riveway.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that the original proposal, when he sold the land to the Montessori
School, that this would be a public right -of -way some day. He gave them a right -of -way on his land
at this point and time because he did not have enough of this plan. A lot of the growth had not
occurred when the school was developed, and the college was still smaller as a campus. Now that
things are growing, he thinks that the school would need to recognize at some point that they may
need to put a fence around their building and property. Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he thinks the
school should have the 1.5 acres that was proposed as a park for the Town. This would help all their
needs for expansion and play fields.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that Mr. Monkemeyer is talking about the park land to the
east of Montessori School. She is talking about the whole driveway configuration to the west of the
school.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that one problem that the Montessori School has is the topography
of the land. They have a building that sits on the hill side which is 20 feet in elevation higher than
the right -of -way. They do need the two roads, and they need the sweeping road to get in and out
of. He thinks the circulation is fine for the school, but they need to expand their operations to the
rear of the school instead of the front. If they are given the land and the opportunity in the back to
do that, it would make the school operate more efficiently. The Planning Board's concern is to take
the children off the street, so why not put the children in the back of the building. Ms. Coby stated
that she would help lend the support to help work the details out with the Town for the park. The
school would like to have this land.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that it would have been nice to hear of these future plans of
Mr. Monkemeyer before the Montessori School development discussion.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that it would have been nice, but he is not sure if it would have
been practical given that there are discussions and negations going on. There are issues that the
Town and Mr. Monkemeyer would like to get settled.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he is letting the Town know everything he is doing, and all the
cards are on the table. The Town would be receiving a donation because he is not asking for any
money for this land. He is giving the land to the Town up -front without any approvals.
Chairperson Wilcox asked Mr. Monkemeyer if he received copies of the Conservation
Advisory Board (CAB) comments.
Mr. Monkemeyer responded, yes.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that the CAB recommended that landscape or other barrier be
installed between the Montessori School and the garden center to provide a visual barrier and
prevent access to the garden center by the children.
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Board Member Hoffmann asked if the storage trailers would be installed temporary.
Mr. Monkemeyer responded, yes.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if there would be plantings around the trailers.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he could do that. He could either transplant the plantings or put
up a barrier of fencing. He is trying to get the garden center started with the least amount of money
up -front to make it work economically. The landscaping would be an inexpensive thing to do or to
put some sort of screening up to the rear that might block some of the view to it from the east. There
is already screening from the roads on either side. If the trailers needed to moved at some point in
time he would be willing to have a limited time use of five years or so.
Board Member Ainslie asked if the storage trailers would have specific items in each of the
trailers, such as one for fertilizers and one for peat moss.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he was thinking of storing fire wood in one of the trailers for retail
use. The other trailers would be to separate pesticides and the fertilizers from the other items.
Board Member Ainslie asked if there would be steps into these trailers.
• Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he would be taking the trailers off h
Y g the wheels and putting them
on cement blocks.
Board Member Ainslie asked if these trailers would be new or used.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that they would be used trailers.
Mr. Roswick stated that the Montessori School would be using the garden center as part of
their lesson plans in the classrooms. The children would be visiting the garden center for lessons.
Planner Cornish stated that the ERC did have concerns about the Montessori School because
the school is sufficiently higher than the garden center site. The ERC thought that the storage
trailers need to be visually blocked from the school, and would like to have it screened from the
school. The other concern was if there was going to be pesticides or chemicals used that if there
were any drifts from those. The understanding is that the garden center would be selling them and
would not be used on the site.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that some pesticides or chemicals may be used in the greenhouses.
Planner Cornish asked Mr. Roswick if he could explain the utility connections to the site.
• Mr. Roswick stated that there is existing sanitary lines and water lines to the site, and they
would like to connect into them. Electric would be connected from the building to the northwest.
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Mr. Monkemeyer stated that the building to the northwest has an existing older well from an
old farm house, and he would be connecting to that well also.
Director of Engineering Walker asked if he would be connecting to public water service.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he is not planning to connect to public water. The main building
would need to be connected to the Town's sewer for sanitary reasons. The greenhouses would
have drainage in them to direct any pesticides or chemicals into the sewer.
Director of Engineering Walker stated that he would need to get an Industrial Waste
Discharge Permit for any chemicals like that. Floor drains are not allowed for that, except for toilet
rooms and kitchens. Floor drains in greenhouses would not be connected to the sanitary sewer.
If chemicals are used they need to be treated on site. If the drainage does go into the sanitary
system then he would need a pre- treatment system. There are a number of DEC requirements for
treating pesticides.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that the project would be phased over a period of one year.
Board Member Ainslie asked if the storage trailers would be installed before the main
structure is installed.
• Mr. Monkemeyer stated that one of the trailers might be installed before the main structure
is built.
Board Member Bell asked if there are any ordinances that the Board needs to consider in
regards to storage trailers.
Attorney Barney stated that there are some questions as to whether the storage trailers are
permitted for accessory use in Business District "C ". There is a prohibition against outside storage
in this business zone.
Mr. Roswick asked if nursery stocks would fall into this category.
Attorney Barney stated that nursery stock probably would not be considered outside storage.
It would be more of the hard goods stored outside the center.
Mr. Roswick asked if fencing for the enclosing the hard good storage would be prohibited.
Attorney Barney stated that there would need to be a variance granted for the prohibited use.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he could see storage trailers being a problem, but they are
is inexpensive way to store things.
Mr. Roswick asked the Planning Board what they would like to see on the modified sketch
plan.
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Chairperson Wilcox stated that Mr. Roswick would be able to get a copy of the minutes of
tonight's meeting after the May 20, 1997 meeting if they are approved.
Mr. Roswick asked what would be the first opportunity for them to return to the Planning
Board.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that the next available opportunity would be the middle of
June.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that storage trailers are an issue as to whether they are allowed
by zoning or if they are needed. Details of water and sewer connections have been mentioned.
Planner Cornish stated that additional landscaping for screening has been mentioned, along
with parking spaces.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that there are some questions as to whether the greenhouses are
considered retail space or not.
Mr. Roswick asked what is the best resolution for that.
Attorney Barney stated that if there is going to be customers wandering through the
greenhouses and buying things it would be considered retail space.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that if they want to keep the number of parking spaces to
a reasonable level they would need to apply for a parking variance. The Planning Board can
authorize 20 percent reduction from the required parking, but that does not help too much. This
Board may want to recommend an upper limit on the number of parking spaces. The Board does
not like to see more parking spaces than is necessary in terms of covered area.
Mr. Roswick asked if they apply for a variance would that delay the project.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that they would need to come for a preliminary approval
and then a final approval. If a variance is needed they would be able to fit a meeting in for the
Zoning Board of Appeals.
Mr. Monkemeyer asked if there is something in the ordinance that defines paving or parking
as a structure.
Attorney Barney responded, yes.
Mr. Monkemeyer asked if all the unpaved roads would need to comply with the ordinance
• even if the road is stone or gravel.
Attorney Barney stated that a structure includes specifically parking space as a definition
except in a residential zone.
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Mr. Monkemeyer asked what is the building area coverage that is permitted in a Business "C"
District.
Attorney Barney stated that 30 percent of the lot area, but that is related to building coverage
structures not paved areas. Any plans that are submitted to the Town should show any zoning lines
and location.
Director of Planning Kanter asked Mr. Monkemeyer if he plans any selective clearing for some
visibility of the facility or would he try and rely on signs for the garden center.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he would probably rely on signage because he would be putting
a flag pole at the intersection corner.
Planner Cornish stated that there is also an outside display area shown on the road side of
the hedge.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that was correct.
Board Member Ainslie asked Mr. Monkemeyer what the height of the trees are at this time.
• Mr. Monkemeyer stated that the trees are approximately 25 to 30 feet high.
Board Member Ainslie stated that a high hedge like that would more or less hide the
establishment.
Mr. Monkemeyer responded, yes. He is counting on the display areas proposed on the road
frontage sides to show the plant materials. There are existing breaks in the trees to see the center.
Board Member Finch stated that the frontage is not along the main road, and gives enough
space for displays to show what is at the center. The trees would block the area off so it would not
just be a pull in area such as a road side stand.
Board Member Ainslie asked Mr. Monkemeyer how much work does he need to do on the
loop road to bring it up to the Town's standards.
Mr. Monkemeyer stated that he would need to do a lot of work, it is just a dirt road.
Chairperson Wilcox duly closed sketch plan presentation for 1059 Danby Road at 10:31 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM: APPROVAL OF MINUTES - APRIL 15 1997.
• MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by James Ainslie:
RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the April 15, 1997 Meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning
Board be and hereby are approved with amendments.
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There being no further discussion, Chairperson Wilcox called for a vote.
AYES - Wilcox, Finch, Kenerson, Ainslie, Bell, Hoffmann.
NAYS - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM: OTHER BUSINESS.
MAY 611997
Chairperson Wilcox stated that the Tompkins County Planning Federation would be holding
a workshop on May 13, 1997. The workshop is entitled "Municipal Planning and Project
Development Review: A Discussion of the Implications for Flooding, Drainage, Streams, and Lakes ".
Chairperson Wilcox stated that he encourages the members of the Planning Board and the Planning
Staff to attend this workshop.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that he noticed that Cayuga Vista was dropped from the Planning
Board's Pending Reviews list.
Chairperson Wilcox stated that Planner Geri Tierney did a great job on the review for the
Cornell University Lake Source Cooling Project's DEIS, and a letter was sent to Michael Barylski,
Deputy Regional Permit Administrator for NYSDEC.
AGENDA ITEM: ADJOURNMENT.
Upon MOTION, Chairperson Wilcox declared the May 6, 1997, Meeting of the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board duly adjourned at 10 :35 p.m.
Prepared by:
Deborah Kelley,
Keyboard Specialist/Minutes Recorder
Mary Bryant,
Administrative Secretary for the
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
126 East Seneca Street
Ithaca. New York 14850
• Tuesdav, May 6. 1997
AGENDA
7:30 P.M. Persons to be heard.
7:35 P.M. SEQR Determination, proposed addition, Montessori School, located at 120 East King
Road, as further described below.
7:45 P. I. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of Preliminary Site Plan Approval and
Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding Special Approval for the
proposed construction of a 1.180 + /- sq. ft. addition to the Montessori School, located
at 120 East King Road. on Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 43- 1 -3.5, Residence
District R -30. Montessori School, Owner; Peter Demjanec, R.A., Agent.
8:15 P.110. SEQR Determination, proposed Ford Hall addition and expansion of "J Lot" and "M
Lot" parking lots, Ithaca College.
8:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of Preliminary Site Plan Approval and
Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding Special Approval for: 1) a
proposed +/- 55,000 sq. ft. addition to Ford Hall to house additional classrooms,
practice studios, rehearsal rooms, a +/- 250 seat recital hall, and other facilities for the
• Ithaca College School of Music; 2) a proposed expansion of the existing "J Lot"
parking lot from 160 spaces to 354 spaces: and 3) a proposed expansion of the
existing "M Lot" parking lot from 198 spaces to 230 .spaces, located on the Ithaca
College campus, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel Nos. 41 -1 -30.2, -30.5 and -30.6,
Residence District R -15. Ithaca College, Owner; Robert O'Brien, Hoffman, O'Brien,
Look, Taube & Chiang. P.C.. Agent. [Note: This public hearing was postponed
from the April 15, 1997 Planning Board meeting.]
9:15 P.M. Consideration of a Sketch Plan for the proposed construction of a retail garden center
proposed to consist of a +/- 41320 sq. ft. store, +/- 4,550 sq. ft. greenhouses, outside
nursery storage and display areas, parking and other appurtenances, to be located at
1059 Danby Road. Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 43- 1 -3.2, Business "C" District.
Evan Monkemever, Owner; Terrence Roswick, Agent.
7. Approval of Minutes: April 15, 1997 (in packet)
8. Other Business.
9. Adjournment.
Jonathan Kanter. AICP
Director of Planning
273 -1747
NOTE: IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD IS UNABLE TO .ATTEND, PLEASE NOTIFY MARY
• BRYANT AT 273 -1747.
(A quorum of four (4) members is necessary to conduct Planning Board business.)
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ADOPTED RESOLUTION:
SEQR
Addition to Nlontessori School
130 East King Road
Planning Board, May 6, 1997
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by Robert Kenerson:
WHEREAS:
This action is the consideration of
with regard to Special Approval fc
the Montessori School, located at
43- 1 -3.5. Residence District R -30.
Agent.
Preliminary Site Plan Approval and recommendation
)r the proposed building of a 1,180 +/- sq. ft. addition to
120 East King Road on Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.
Montessori School. Owner: Peter Demjanec, R.A.,
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is legislatively
determined to act as Lead Agencv in environmental review with respect to Site Plan
Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, on May 6. 1997, has reviewed and accepted as adequate a Short
Environmental Assessment Form Part I submitted by the applicant and a Part II prepared
by the Town Planning Department, a site plan entitled "Llontessori School, 120 East King
Road, Ithaca, New York 148 .50" prepared by Peter Demjanec, revised April 28, 1997, and
other application materials, and
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative determination of
environmental significance with respect to the proposed action:
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination of
environmental significance in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality Review
Act for the above referenced action as proposed and, therefore, an Environmental Impact
Statement will not be required.
AYES - Wilcox, Hoffmann. Finch. Kenerson. Ainslie. Bell.
NAYS - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Mary Bryn,
Administrative SecreYarv.
Town of Ithaca Planning Board.
5/7/97.
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ADOPTED RESOLUTION: Preliminary Site Plan Approval and Recommendation for
Special Approval
Addition to Montessori School
120 East King Road
Planning Board, May 6, 1997
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by James Ainslie:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the consideration of Preliminary Site Plan Approval and recommendation
with regard to Special Approval for the proposed building of a 1,180 +/- sq. ft. addition to
the Montessori School, located at 120 East King Road on Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.
43- 1 -3.5, Residence District R -30. Montessori School, Owner; Peter Demjanec. R.A.,
Agent.
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as lead
agency in environmental review with respect to Site Plan Approval, has on May 6, 1997
made a negative determination of environmental significance, after having reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I, prepared by the
applicant, and a Part II prepared by the Town Planning. staff, and
3. The Plannina Board, at a Public Hearing on May 6, 1997, has reviewed and accepted as
adequate a site plan entitled "Montessori School, 120 East King Road, Ithaca, New York
14850" prepared by Peter Demjanec, revised April 28, 1997, and other application
materials;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements for
Preliminary Site Plan Approval, as shown on the Preliminary Site Plan Checklist, having
determined from the materials presented that such waiver will result in neither a significant
alteration of the purpose of site plan control nor the policies enunciated or implied by the
Town Board, and
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary Site Plan Approval for the proposed
building of a 1,180 +!- sq. ft. addition to the Montessori School, as shown on the site plan
entitled "Montessori School, 120 East Kin` Road, Ithaca. New York 14850" prepared by
Peter Demjanec, revised April 28, 1997, and other application materials, conditioned upon
the following:
a. the applicant submit,
prior to Final Site Plan Approval, a
record
of application for and
approval status of all necessary permits from Countv, State,
and/or
Federal agencies;
b. the applicant receive, prior to Final Site Plan Approval, variances from the Town
Zoning Board of Appeals for insufficient side yard setback and exceeding the maximum
permitted building coverage in an R -30 Residence District, as well as Special Approval;
c. the applicant submit, prior to Final
existing and proposed site topography.
drainage plan, including showing adeq
northeast corner, all subject to review
Site Plan Approval, sufficient information describing
a grading plan if anv grading is to occur, and a
uate drainage around the new addition and across the
and approval by the Town Engineer:
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Preliminary Site Plan Approval and Recommendation for
Special Approval
Addition to Montessori School
120 East King Road
Planning Board. Mav 6. 1997
d. the applicant submit. prior to Final Site Plan Approval, information describing
construction details of all proposed structures. walkways and other improvements.
e. the site plan be amended to show the correct tax parcel number.
f. the site plan be amended to provide markings satisfactory to the Town Planner showing
the existence of a fire lane.
g. the final site plan delete the reference on the south side to "future expansion and the
related building outlines.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
1. That the Planning Board, in making its recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
determines the following:
a. there is a need for the proposed use in the proposed location, as
demonstrated by the applicant;
b. the existing and probable future character of the neighborhood will
not be adversely affected as a result of the proposed project:
C. the specific proposed change in land use as a result of the proposed
project is in accordance with a comprehensive plan of development
for the Town of Ithaca.
2. That the Planning Board reports to the Zoning Board of Appeals its recommendation that
the aforementioned request for Special Approval 'be approved.
AYES - Finch, Kenerson, Ainslie, Bell.
NAYS - Wilcox.
ABSTAIN - Hoffmann.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
Mdr Bry t,
Administr tive Secretary.
Town of Ithaca Planning Board.
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PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN CHECKLIST
• PROJECT NAME
PROJECT NUMBER
PREPARER �'-
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V = ITEM SUBMITTED
N/A = NOT APPLICABLE
W = WAIVE
COND = CONDITION OF APPROVAL
1. `/ Completed and signed Development Review Application_.
a. Development Review Escrow Agreement and Back -up
Withholding Form (if required) (Only one (1) copy
each.)
21 V Payment of review fees.
Deposit of escrow.
3. �_ Fully completed and signed Short Environmental
Assessment Form, Part I (SERF), or Long Environmental
Assessment Form, Part I (LEAF). (See Town Planner as
to which to submit.)
is 4. Proposed preliminary site plan, with the following
information, must be filed in the office of the Town
Planner at least thirty (30) calendar days prior to the
Planning Board meeting at which preliminary approval is
requested. Information may be supplied on more than
one drawing if necessary.
a. Vicinity Map showing the general location of the
property and proposed project at a scale of 1" =1000' or
1"= 2000'.
b. Natural features within and immediately adjacent to the
site including but not limited to streams, lakes,
floodplains, ponds, wetlands, woodlands, brushlands,
significant natural habitats or other features
pertinent to review of the proposed project,
C, y' Exact boundary lines of the tract, indicated by a heavy
line, showing location and description of all
monuments, giving property metes and bounds to the
nearest one - tenth, angles to the nearest minute, and at
least one bearing.
d. !.:' Size, location, and use of all existing structures,
parking areas, access drives, off - street loading areas,
signs, lighting, pedestrian facilities, landscaping,
and other existing features pertinent to plan review.
e. Size, location, proposed use, design, and construction
materials of all proposed structures.
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f. t`IiP Location, design, and construction materials of all
proposed parking areas, access drives, and off - street
loading areas.
g. "!r' Size, location, design, and construction materials of
all proposed signs and lighting.
h. Location, design, and construction materials of all
proposed pedestrian and bicycle facilities.
i. Landscaping plan and planting schedule including
location and proposed design of buffers.
Location, design, and construction materials of all
proposed water and sewage facilities.
k. Location of any existing or proposed fire and other
emergency zones, including the location of fire
hydrants.
1. Location, name, and dimensions of each existing or
proposed street and alley and each existing or proposed
utility, drainage, or similar easement within,
abutting, or in the immediate vicinity of the proposed
project.
m. Existing and proposed site topography represented by
contour lines with intervals as required by the
Planning Board, but not to exceed 5 (five) feet,
including a grading plan describing the volumes of cut
and fill materials and their composition, and including
elevations of proposed buildings, signage, lighting,
and other features.
n. Drainage plan which includes a description of method
'used for analysis, the calculation of drainage area
above point of entry for each water course entering or
abutting the site, and proposed method of on -site
retention if required.
o. V Border lines bounding site plan sheets one inch from
the left edge and one -half inch from each of the other
edges. All required information, including signatures,
seals, dates and such information shall be within the
border,
P, y Map scale in bar form, and north point.
q. V Name of proposed project.
Name of Town, County, and State
S, V Date of Site Plan, including any applicable revision
dates.
t. n''F Key map (when more than one sheet is submitted).
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U, ;\ Name and seal of the registered land surveyors) or
. engineer(s) who prepared the topographic and boundary
survey and the date of survey.
61 Name(s) and address(es) of all property owners and
persons who have an interest in the site and of parcels
abutting the site, or within 5;001 of the site,
including easements or rights -of -way, plus the tax
parcel numbers.
71 `' Estimate of the cost of improvements (excluding the
purchase cost of land) to be prepared (preferably) by a
licensed professional engineer.
8. �'V� Three (3) dark -line prints of the proposed Site Plan
and 25 copies of all sheets of the proposed Site Plan
in reduced format (no larger than 11" x 1711) and copy
of all other items required above (Except Development
Review Application and escrow forms).
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I, Mary Bryant, being duly sworn, depose and say that I am a Secretary for the Town of
Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York: that the following Notice has been duly posted on the sign
board of the Town of Ithaca and that said Notice has been duly published in the local newspaper, The
Ithaca Journal.
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PLANNING BOARD NASCA
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>mpkins PUBLIC HEARINGS seats.
1 Dates Tuesday, May 6, 1997 Stone
Ithaca, By direction of the
ter than Chairperson of the Planning
needay, Board, NOTICE IS HEREBY IM
rich time GIVEN that Public Hearings PRE -Elk
publicly will be held by the Planning BUIII
the "x- Board of the Town of Ithaca
ding A. on Tuesday, May 6, 1997, at co"
126 East Seneca Street, open
accom- Ithaca, NY., at the following potenti
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to be matters:
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construction of a 1,180± sq:
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King Road, on Town of Ithaca I i c a t
C E Tax Parcel No. 43- 1 -3.5, P -800 -;
Residence District R -30, Mw
RS tessori School, Owner; Peter
Demjonec, R.A., Agent.
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Police preliminary Site Plan Ap- BUFFAI
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le Clerk Robert O'Brien, Hoffman, .Ithaca.
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Chiang, P.C., Agent. [Note:
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS
Tuesday, May 6, 1997
By direction of the Chairperson of the Planning Board, NOTICE IS HEREBY
GIVEN that Public Hearings will be held by the Planning Board of the Town of
Ithaca on Tuesday, May 6, 1997, at 126 East Seneca Street, Ithaca, N.Y., at
the following times and on the following matters:
7:45 P.M. Consideration of Preliminary Site Plan Approval and Recommendation
to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding Special Approval for the
proposed construction of a 1,180 + /- sq. ft. addition to the
Montessori School, located at 120 East King Road, on Town of
Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 43- 1 -3.5, Residence District R -30.
Montessori School, Owner; Peter Demjanec, R.A., Agent.
8:30 P.M. Consideration of Preliminary Site Plan Approval and
Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding Special
Approval for: 1) a proposed +/- 55,000 sq. ft. addition to Ford
Hall to house additional classrooms, practice studios, rehearsal
rooms, a +/- 250 seat recital hall, and other facilities for the
Ithaca College School of Music; 2) a n�sed expansion of the
existing "J Lot" parking lot from 160 spaces to 354 spaces; and
3) a proposed expansion of the existing "M Lot" parking lot from
198 spaces to 230 spaces, located on the Ithaca College campus,
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel Nos. 41 -1 -30.2, -30.5 and -30.6,
Residence District R -15. Ithaca College, Owner; Robert O'Brien,
Hoffman, O'Brien, Look, Taube & Chiang, P.C., Agent. [Note: This
public hearing was postponed from the April 15, 1997 Planning
Board meeting.]
Said Planning Board will
support of such matters or
or in person. Individuals
other special needs, will
request. Persons desiring
48 hours prior to the time
Lt said times and said place hear all persons in
objections thereto. Persons may appear by agent
with visual impairments, hearing impairments or
be provided with assistance as necessary, upon
assistance must make such a request not less than
of the public hearings.
Dated:
Monday, April 28,
1997
Publish:
Wednesday, April
30,
1997
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Director
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of Planning
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ADOPTED RESOLUTION: SEQR
Preliminary Site Plan Approval and F I INAL
Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for
Ithaca College, Ford Hall Addition, J Lot Expansion, M Lot Expansion
953 Danbv Road
Planning Board, May 6, 1997
MOTION by Herbert Finch. seconded by Robert Kenerson:
WHEREAS:
1• This action is the Consideration of Preliminary Site Plan Approval and further, a recommendation to the
Zoning Board of Appeals regarding Special Approval for: 1) a proposed 65,000± square foot addition to
Ford Hall to house additional classrooms. practice studios. rehearsal rooms, a 250± seat recital hall, and
other facilities for the Ithaca College School of Music; 2) a proposed expansion of the existing "J Lot"
parking lot from 160 spaces to 354 spaces. and 3) a proposed expansion of the existing "M Lot" parking
lot for an increase in parking from 198 spaces to 230 spaces, located on the Ithaca College campus, Town
of Ithaca Tax parcel Nos. 41 -I -30.3, -30.5, and -30.6, Residence District R -I5, Ithaca College, owner:
Robert O'Brien - Hoffman, O'Brien, Look, Taube & Chiang, P.C., Agent, and v
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2• This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is legislatively determined to act
as Lead Agencv in environmental review with respect to Site Plan Approval, and
3• The Planning Board, on April 15, 1997 and on May 6, 1997, has reviewed and accepted as adequate a Full
Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the applicant, a Full Environmental Assessment Form
Part II and Part III prepared by Planning Staff. Drawings labeled "Ithaca College School of Music
Addition ", Sheet No. L I entitled "Landscape Plan" dated 3/17/97, revised 4/25/97, Sheet No. L2 entitled
"Grading Plan" dated 3/17/97, revised 4/38/97, Sheet No. L3 entitled "Landscape Details ", Sheet No. CI
entitled "Utility Plan ", and Sheet No. C2 entitled "Utility and Pavement Details ", all dated 3/17/97,
Drawings labeled "Ithaca College J -Lot & 1vI -Lot Parking Expansion ", Sheet Nos. CO l & CO2 entitled "J-
Lot Layout and Demolition Plan ", Sheet Nos. CO.') & C04 entitled "J -Lot Grading & Utility Plan ", Sheet
No. C05 entitled "J -Lot Striping and Signage Plan ", Sheet No. C06 entitled "M -Lot Plans ", Sheet No. C07
entitled "Utility and Pavement Details ", all dated 3/17/97, Sheet No. L entitled "Landscape & Lighting
Plan" dated 3/17/97, revised 4/25/97 and Sheet No. L2 entitled "Landscape & Lighting Plan and Details ",
dated 3/17/97, and a plan entitled "Proposed Ithaca College Fill Site" dated 4/28/97, all prepared by Holt
Architects, T.G. Miller P.C. Engineers and Surveyors, and Trowbridge and Wolf Landscape Architects and
Planners, and additional application materials. and v
4• The Town Planning staff have recommended a negative determination of environmental significance with
respect to the proposed site plan; v
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board
significance in accordance with the New York State
action as proposed and, therefore, an Environmental
AYES - Wilcox, Hoffmann, Bell, Finch, Kenerson.
NAYS - None.
hereby makes a negative determination of environmental
Environmental Quality Review Act for the above referenced
Impact Statement will not be required.
kinslie,
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimousiv.
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Ma Bryan
Administra e Secretary
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
5/7/97
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ADOPTED RESOLUTION: Preliminary Site Plan Approval and
Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for
Ithaca Colleae, Ford Ha
Expansion ll Addition, J Lot Expansion, M Lot
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953 Danbv Road
Planning Board, May 6, 1997
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by Herbert Finch:
WHEREAS:
1 This action is the Consideration of Preliminary Site Plan Approval and further, a recommendation
to the Zoning Board of Appeals regarding Special Approval for: 1) a proposed 65,000 square
foot addition to Ford Hall to house additional classrooms, practice studios, rehearsal rooms, a
250± seat recital hall, and other facilities for the Ithaca College School of iviusic; 2) a proposed
expansion of the existing "J Lot" parking lot from 160 spaces to 354 spaces: and 3) a proposed
expansion of the existing "M Lot" parkin_ lot for an increase in parkin, from 198 spaces to 230
spaces, located on the Ithaca College campus, Town of Ithaca Tax parcel Nos. 41 -1 -30.2, -30.5,
and -30.6, Residence District R -15, Ithaca College, owner; Robert O'Brien - Hoffman, O'Brien.
Look, Taube & Chiang. P.C., Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as Lead Agencv
in environmental review, has, on May 6, 1997, made a negative determination of environmental
significance with regard to Site Plan Approval, and
�• The Planning Board, on April 15, 1997, and at a Public Hearing on May 6, 1997, has reviewed
and accepted as adequate a Full Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the applicant,
• a Full Environmental Assessment Form Part II and Part III prepared by Planning Staff, Drawings
labeled "Ithaca College School of Music Addition ", Sheet No. L I entitled "Landscape Plan" dated
3/17/97, revised 4/25/971 Sheet No. L2 entitled "Grading Plan" dated 3/17/97, revised 4/28/97,
Sheet No. L3 entitled "Landscape Details ", Sheet No. CI entitled "Utility Plan ", and Sheet No.
C2 entitled "Utility and Pavement Details ", all dated 3 /17/97, Drawings labeled "Ithaca College
J -Lot & M -Lot Parking Expansion ", Sheet Nos. COI & CO2 entitled "J -Lot Layout and
Demolition Plan ", Sheet Nos. CO3 & C04 entitled "J -Lot Grading
C05 entitled "J -Lot Striping and Signage Plan ", Sheet No. C06 entitled "M1Lot Plans ", Sheet No.
C07 entitled "Utility and Pavement Details ", all dated 3/17/97, Sheet No. L1 entitled "Landscape
& Lighting Plan" dated 3/17/97, revised 4 /25/97 and Sheet No. L2 entitled "Landscape & Lighting
Plan and Details ", dated 3/17/97, and a plan entitled "Proposed Ithaca Collese Fill Site" dated
4/28/97, all prepared by Holt Architects, T.G. Miller P.C. Engineers and Surveyors, and
Trowbridge and Wolf Landscape Architects and Planners, and additional application materials.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1• That the Planning Board hereby °rants Preliminary Site Plan Approval for Drawings labeled
"Ithaca College School of Music Addition ", Sheet No. L I entitled "Landscape Plan dated 3/17/97,
revised 4 /25/97, Sheet No. L2 entitled "Grading Plan" dated 3/17/97, revised 4/28/97, Sheet No.
L3 entitled "Landscape Details ", Sheet No. C I entitled "Utility Plan ", and Sheet No. C2 entitled
"Utility and Pavement Details ", all dated 3/17/97. Drawings labeled "Ithaca College J -Lot & NI-
Lot Parking Expansion ", Sheet Nos. COI & CO2 entitled "J -Lot Layout and Demolition
Plan ", Sheet Nos. CO3 & C04 entitled "J -Lot Grading & Utility Plan ". Sheet No. C05 entitled
"J -Lot Striping and Signage Plan ", Sheet No. C06 entitled "M -Lot Plans ", Sheet No. C07 entitled
• "Utility and Pavement Details ", all dated 3i 17.'97, Sheet No. L I entitled Landscape & Lighting
Plan" dated 3/17/97. revised 4/25/97 and Sheet No. L2 entitled "Landscape & Lighting Plan and
Details ". dated 3/17/97, and a plan entitled "Proposed Ithaca College Fill Site" dated 4/28/97.
subject to the following conditions, all to be submitted prior to final site plan approval:
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Preliminary Site Plan Approval and
Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for
Ithaca College, Ford Hall Addition, J Lot Expansion, VI Lot Expansion
is 953 Danbv Road
Planning Board, Mav 6, 1997
a• Submission of construction details of all proposed structures including. but not limited to.
curbing, including granite curbs, drop curbs, and mountable curbs, retaining walls, ramps.
including ramps with guard rails. sidewalks. stair%vays, and pavement.
b. Submission of a detailed sediment and erosion control plan to be approved by the Director
of Engineering for the Town of Ithaca.
C. That any required variances. including a height variance, be obtained from the Town of
Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals.
d. Revision of the site plan for the School of iNlusic, J Lot & M Lot Parking Expansion to
show the limits of disturbance.
e. Revise all drawings so that they are presented as one project package. In particular,
revise page numbering to avoid duplication of page numbers and consolidate details to
avoid duplication.
f. Revise sheet C04, J Lot Grading and Utility Plan to show symbols of drainage inlets.
g• Revise sheet L -1, J Lot & NI Lot Parking Expansion, Landscape and Lighting Plan to:
• distinguish between buffer plantings and barrier plantings. Both are referred to in the
planting schedule, but only barrier plantings are referred to on the plan.
Indicate on plan slope stabilization and planting for area to be regraded on the south side
of J Lot extension.
h. Revise Sheet L -2, label as VI Lot Parking Expansion. Revise planting schedule to reflect
actual inumber of 'plant materials as shown on the plan. Planting Schedule lists 19
Primrose Spirea, plan shows 13 Planting Schedule lists 12 Broadmore Junipers, plan
shows 6. Correct labeling of Shrub Planting Detail (labeled as Light Pole Footer).
i• Revise all drawings to show location of pedestrian bridge and associated walk
from J -Lot, the reconfiguration of the Music Plaza, and the revised building
footprint.
j• Add note to Sheet L -1, J -Lot and M -Lot Parking Expansion, revised Landscape and
Lighting Plan, indicating areas to be hvdroseeded with erosion control netting and allow
vegetation to regenerate. (Shown on reduced maps. not shown on full scale drawings.)
Label all barrier and buffer plantings.
k. Revise School of Nlusic Addition Sheet L -1, Landscape Plan. so that all plant materials
are labeled. Indicate erosion control in appropriate areas. Revise Planting Schedule to
reflect changes in the north west corner of the Ford Hall Addition. Cross reference
Landscape Plan and Planting Schedule on Sheet L -3 Landscape Details.
• I• The appropriate drawings to be revised to show location of bike racks.
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Preliminary Site Plan Approval and
Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals for
Ithaca College, Ford Hall Addition. J Lot Expansion. M Lot Expansion
953 Danby Road
Planning Board, Mav 6, 1997
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
I That the Planning Board, in making its recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
determines the following:
a. there is a need for the proposed use in the proposed location. as demonstrated by the
applicant,
b. the existing and probable future character of the neighborhood will not be adversely
affected as a result of the proposed project.
C. the specific proposed change in land use as a result of the proposed project is in
accordance with a comprehensive plan of development for the Town of Ithaca.
2. That the Planning Board reports to the Zoning Board of :appeals its recommendation that the
aforementioned request for Special Approval be approved.
AYES - Wilcox, Hoffmann. Bell, Kenerson, Finch, .Ainslie.
NAYS - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Macy Bryant IkZ77e
Administrative Secretary ,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
5/7/97.