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126 East Seneca Street
Ithaca, New York 14850
Tuesday, February 6, 1996
AGENDA
7:30 P.M. Persons to be heard.
7:35 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of Preliminary and Final Subdivision
Approval for the proposed subdivision of that portion of Town of
Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 56 -3 -26.2 located on the south side of Park
Lane and comprising +/- 1.36 acres, into two lots, +/- 0.76 acres
and +/- 0.60 acres in size respectively, located on Park Lane
approximately 160 feet north of its intersection with NYS Route
79 /Slaterville Road, Residence District R -151 Barbara P. Quick,
Owner; Robert C. Quick, Agent,
7:55 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan
Approval for proposed interior renovations of +/- 4,000 square feet
of rentable office space previously used by the Southeast Asia
Program and the Nuclear Studies space, now referred to as Suite
201, located at East Hill Plaza on Judd Falls Road and Ellis Hollow
Road. Renovations to include 7 new offices, a conference room, a
kitchenette, a vestibule and a reception area. An existing exit
will be reconfigured to serve as a common corridor for two separate
tenants. Exterior renovations to include 21 feet of new window
space, the removal of an existing window and repair of the masonry
wall, and a new entrance door with canopy. Subject site is located
on Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 62 -2- 1.121, consisting of +/- 9.16
acres, Business District "C ". Cornell University, Owner; Bonnie J.
VanAmburg, Agent,
8:20 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of Preliminary Site Plan Approval for
the proposed Ithacare Center Senior Living Community (Alternative
B.3), proposed to consist of a +/- 115,000 square foot building
with 60 adult care units, 20 assisted living units, and 80
independent living units, located on the west side of Danby Road
approximately 2,000 feet south of the entrance to Ithaca College,
on that 28 +/- acre portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39 -1-
1.3 designated as Special Land Use District No 7. Ithacare Center,
Inc., Applicant; Mark Macera, Agent.
5. Consideration
of approval
of a resolution to
revoke Preliminary
Subdivision Approval for the
proposed subdivision of Town
of Ithaca
Tax Parcel No.
42 -1 -9.14, 1.43
+/- acres in size,
into two
parcels,
approximately
0.70 +/-
acres and 0.64 +/-
acres
in size
respectively,
located at 346
Coddington Road, Residence
District
R-
15. Estate
of Stephen
J. Raponi, Owner;
Frank J.
Raponi,
Applicant.
6. Approval of Minutes: November 7, 1995, November 21, 1995,
December 5, 1995, January 23, 1996.
7, Other Business.
8, Adjournment.
Jonathan
Director
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Kanter, AICP
of Planning
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
FEBRUARY 6, 1996
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The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday, February 6, 1996, in Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street,
Ithaca, New York at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairperson Candace Cornell, Eva Hoffmann, James
Ainslie, Herbert Finch, Robert Kenerson, Fred Wilcox,
Gregory Bell, Jonathan Kanter (Director of Planning),
George Frantz (Assistant Town Planner), JoAnn Cornish
(Planner), Daniel Walker (Town Engineer), John Barney
(Town Attorney).
ALSO PRESENT: R.C. Quick, Kristina Bartlett, E & D Blanpied,
Mark Macera, Fred Noetscher, John Yntema, J. A.
Cimmino, C. Feiszli, N. Desch, B. VanAmburg,
Michael A. Robinson, Ruth Newhall, Virginia
Bryant, Charles Brodhead,
Chairperson Cornell declared the
p.m. and accepted, for the record, the
Posting and Publication of the Notice
Hall and the Ithaca Journal on January
1996, said Notice was served upon the
as appropriate, on February 2, 1996,
Chairperson Cornell read the Fire
assembled, as required by the New York
Office of Fire Prevention and Control.
AGENDA ITEM: PERSONS TO BE HEARD
meeting duly opened at 7:38
Secretary's Affidavit of
of Public Hearings in Town
29, 1996, and January 31,
applicants and /or agents,
Exit
Regulations
to
those
State
Department
of
State,
There were
no
persons
present
to be heard. Chairperson
Cornell closed
this
segment
of the
meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL
SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF THAT PORTION
OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 56 -3 -26.2, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH
SIDE OF PARK LANE AND COMPRISING ±1.36 ACRES, INTO TWO LOTS,
±0.76 ACRES AND ±0.60 ACRES IN SIZE RESPECTIVELY, LOCATED ON PARK
LANE APPROXIMATELY 160 FEET NORTH OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH NYS
ROUTE 79 /SLATERVILLE ROAD, RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -15, BARBARA P.
QUICK, OWNER; RAYMOND C. QUICK, AGENT.
Chairperson Cornell declared
opened and read aloud from the Not
posted and published and as noted
Assistant Town Planner George
made an error in the Notices regar
agent's name is Raymond C. Quick,
the above -noted matter duly
ice as Public Hearings as
above.
Frantz stated that staff had
ding this Subdivision, the
• Planning Board Minutes 2 February 6, 1996
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Raymond Quick of 191 Landon Road, Brooktondale, New York,
addressed the Board and stated that he was requesting the two -lot
subdivision approval so that he may be able to sell those lots.
Chairperson Cornell
asked if
there were any
environmental
concerns regarding this
proposal
from anyone in
the public or
from the members of the
Planning
Board. There being
no comments
or concerns, Chairperson
Cornell
asked if anyone
were prepared to
offer a motion regarding
the environmental
significance
of this
proposal.
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by James Ainslie:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the consideration of Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of that
portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 56 -3 -26.2 located
on the south side of Park Lane and comprising +/- 1.36
acres, into two lots, +/- 0.76 and +/- 0.60 acre in size
respectively, located on Park Lane approximately 160 ft,
north of its intersection with NYS Rte, 79 /Slaterville Road,
Residence District R -15. Barbara P. Quick, Owner; Raymond
C. Quick, Agent.
• 2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board is legislatively determined to act as Lead
Agency in environmental review with respect to Subdivision
Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, on February 6, 1996, has reviewed and
accepted as adequate a
Short Environmental Assessment Form
Pt. I submitted by the applicant
the Town Planning Department, a
and a Part
plat entitled
II prepared by
"Subdivision
Plat -- R.C. Quick Subdivision"
Quick, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins
R. James Stockwin, P.L.S. dated
application materials, and
of the
County,
August
lands
New
10, 1995,
of Barbara P.
York prepared by
and other
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative
determination of environmental significance with respect to
the proposed subdivision;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a
negative determination of environmental significance in
accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality Review
Act for the above referenced action as proposed and, therefore,
an Environmental Impact Statement will not be required.
• There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
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Aye - Cornell, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to.be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Cornell declared the Public Hearing for the
proposed two -lot subdivision for the Quick Property duly opened,
and asked if anyone from the public wished to speak. No one
spoke. Chairperson Cornell closed the Public Hearing and brought
the matter back to the Board for discussion.
Board Member Fred Wilcox asked, referring to the Subdivision
Map, what a Slope Maintenance Easement meant.
Director of Engineering Daniel Walker stated that when Park
Lane was built there was significant cut there, to minimize the
impact on the Quick's property the Town did not take the right of
way to the top of the slope which is what would normally be done.
Instead the Town maintained trying to minimize the amount of
right of way that was being taken, the Town did want to make sure
that the slope could be maintained if it became unstable. Mr.
Walker stated that is why the Town has a easement to maintain
that slope. If in the process of constructing a home that slope
• is cut so that it is reduced so that there is less impact, then
the Town would consider reducing the amount of easement needed to
minimize the encroachment on the property.
Chairperson
Cornell asked Mr.
Walker if that meant that the
easement was a floating
easement.
Director of
Engineering Walker
responded, no,
but that the
Town would be open
to changing that
easement if the
slope were
regraded as part
of a construction
project, such as
building a
house.
Chairperson Cornell asked how the slope was maintained.
Director of Engineering Walker stated that it has been
seeded down to grass.
Board Member Wilcox stated that there was a error on the
Subdivision Map regarding the square footage of Lot B, which
reads 263,000 square feet.
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz stated that there was
some gas related fixtures that belong to NYSEG located on the
property, which are not shown on the survey. Neither he nor Mr.
Quick knew what the fixtures were used for, nor whether or not
• they were within an easement or right -of -way.
Director of Engineering Walker stated that the stage
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regulator could be relocated if that was a problem. Mr. Walker
stated that it should be showed on the subdivision plat. Mr.
Walker stated that the easement lines for NYSEG use should be
made clear on the subdivision plat. Mr Walker stated that the
square footage of Lot B should be 26,036 square feet, which
should also be corrected by the surveyor on the map. Mr. Walker
stated that the sewer easement and the manhole on the top of Lot
A is not physically there at this point, and asked that the plat
be revised to read "Proposed Manhole ".
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by Gregory Bell:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the consideration of Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of that
portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 56 -3 -26.2 located
on the south side of Park Lane and comprising +/- 1.36
acres, into two lots, +/- 0.76 and +/- 0.60 acre in size
respectively, located on Park Lane approximately 160 ft,
north of its intersection with NYS Rte. 79 /Slaterville Road,
Residence District R -15. Barbara P. Quick, Owner; Raymond
C. Quick, Agent.
• 2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board, acting as lead agency in environmental
review with respect to Subdivision Approval, has, on
February 6, 1996, made a negative determination of
environmental significance, after having reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form
Part I, prepared by the applicant, and a Part II prepared by
the Town Planning staff, and
3. The Planning Board,
at a Public
Hearing held on February 6,
1996, has
reviewed
and accepted
as adequate
a plat
entitled
"Subdivision
Plat
-- R.C. Quick
Subdivision"
of the
lands of
Barbara P.
Quick,
Town of Ithaca,
Tompkins
County,
New York
prepared
by R. James
Stockwin, P.L.S.
dated
August
10, 1995,
and other
application
materials,
and
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain
requirements for Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval,
as shown on the Preliminary and Final Subdivision Checklist,
having determined from the materials presented that such
waiver will result in neither a significant alteration of
the purpose of subdivision control nor the policies
• enunciated or implied by the Town Board, and
• Planning Board Minutes 5 February 6, 1996
ADOPTED 2/20/96
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of that
portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 56 -3 -26.2 located
on the south side of Park Lane and comprising +/- 1.36
acres, into two lots, +/- 0.76 and +/- 0.60 acre in size
respectively, as shown on the plat entitled "Subdivision
Plat -- R.C. Quick Subdivision" of the lands of Barbara P.
Quick, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York prepared
by R. James Stockwin, P.L.S. dated August 10, 1995, and
other application materials, subject to the following
conditions:
a. revision
of the plat
to show natural
gas line fixtures
located
in the southwesterly corner
of Lot B, and any
easements
associated
with said fixtures,
and to correct
the figure
for the square footage of
Lot B.
b, revision
of the plat
to show manhole
along northerly
property
boundary as
being proposed.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
• Aye - Cornell, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Cornell
duly closed
the matter
of
the two -lot
subdivision of Barbara P.
Quick duly
closed at
7:53
p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL SITE
PLAN APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED INTERIOR RENOVATIONS OF ±4,000 SQUARE
FEET OF RENTABLE OFFICE SPACE PREVIOUSLY USED BY THE SOUTHEAST
ASIA PROGRAM AND THE NUCLEAR STUDIES SPACE, NOW REFERRED TO AS
SUITE 210, LOCATED AT EAST HILL PLAZA ON JUDD FALLS ROAD AND
ELLIS HOLLOW ROAD. RENOVATIONS TO INCLUDE 7 NEW OFFICES, A
CONFERENCE ROOM, A KITCHENETTE, A VESTIBULE, AND A RECEPTION
AREA. AN EXISTING EXIT WILL BE RECONFIGURED TO SERVE AS A COMMON
CORRIDOR FOR TWO SEPARATE TENANTS. EXTERIOR RENOVATIONS TO
INCLUDE 21 FEET OF NEW WINDOW SPACE, THE REMOVAL OF AN EXISTING
WINDOW AND REPAIR OF THE MASONRY WALL, AND A NEW ENTRANCE DOOR
WITH CANOPY, SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON TOWN OF ITHACA TAX
PARCEL NO. 62- 2- 1.121, CONSISTING OF ±9.16 ACRES, BUSINESS
DISTRICT "C ". CORNELL UNIVERSITY, OWNER; BONNIE J. VANAMBURG,
AGENT.
Chairperson Cornell declared the above -noted matter duly
• opened and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as
posted and published and as noted above.
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Bonnie VanAmburg addressed the Board and stated that she was
going to let the architect speak for the project
Chuck Feiszli of Resource Associates in Cortland, New York,
addressed the Board and stated that he had prepared the plan that
was presented to the Planning Board, and that he was currently
preparing the construction drawings for the site in anticipation
of receiving approval from this Board. Mr. Feiszli stated that
the project consists of a 4,000 square foot open space, that they
will be cutting a new entrance into for an aluminum glass door.
Mr. Feiszli stated that there would be a 21 -foot long window
placed in the front, and 7 new offices and a conference room will
be constructed within the space. Mr. Feiszli stated that two of
the offices will be for the comptrollers and the remaining will
be for rental space to an unknown tenant, although the tenant
will be a department of Cornell University. Mr. Feiszli stated
that the walls will be finished, new lighting and new ceilings
throughout, but that the flooring will remain unfinished so that
the tenants can select their own carpeting or whatever they want
in their own space.
Chairperson Cornell asked if there were any comments
regarding the possible environmental significance of this
• project. No one spoke.
Chairperson Cornell asked if there were any questions from
any member of the Planning Board regarding the environmental
significance of this project.
Board Member Wilcox stated that question number 6 was not
answered on the Short Environmental Assessment Form, which asked
how much land would be effected by this project.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that the amount of land
that would be effected by this project would be 4,000 square
feet, or ±.10 acres.
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that the description of the
windows were not very detailed, and asked for a more detailed
description.
Mr. Feiszli stated that the windows would be thermal pane,
aluminum store front type similar to what is existing in the
Purchasing Department next door to this site, which was put in
last year. Mr. Feiszli stated that the windows would be 21 feet
long.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the windows would be one
continuous space.
Mr. Feiszli stated that it would be one continuous space, 21
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feet long, approximately 4 feet high.
Town Attorney John Barney asked how far above the floor
level the windows would be located.
Mr. Feiszli stated that the windows would be approximately
three feet.
Chairperson Cornell asked if anyone were prepared to offer a
motion regarding the environmental significance of this project.
MOTION by Gregory Bell, seconded by Robert Kenerson:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final
Site Plan Approval for the proposed interior renovations to
41000 +/- square feet of rentable office space previously
used by the Southeast Asia Program and Nuclear Studies, now
known as Suite 210, located at East Hill Plaza corner of
Judd Falls Road and Ellis Hollow Road, Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 62- 2- 1.121, Business District C, Cornell
University, Owner; Bonnie J. VanAmburg, Agent.
• 2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board is legislatively determined to act as Lead
Agency in environmental review with respect to Site Plan
Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, on February 6, 1996, has reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form
Part I prepared by the applicant, a Part II prepared by the
Planning staff, a floor plan entitled "Proposed Floor Plan,
Suite 210," date stamped January 10, 1996, prepared by
Resource Associates, and additional application materials,
and
4. The Town Planning staff have recommended a negative
determination of environmental significance with respect to
the proposed site plan, as proposed;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a
negative determination of environmental significance in
accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality
Review Act for the above referenced action as proposed and,
therefore, neither a Full Environmental Assessment Form nor
an Environmental Impact Statement will be required.
• There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
• Planning Board Minutes 8 February 6, 1996
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Aye - Cornell, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Cornell declared the public Hearing in the
matter of Preliminary Site Plan approval for Suite 210 at East
Hill Plaza to be duly opened, and asked if there were any member
of the public that wished to speak. No one spoke. Chairperson
Cornell closed the Public Hearing and brought the matter back to
the Board for discussion.
Board Member Hoffmann stated, from the drawing submitted for
tonight's meeting, the internal corridor looked like it was only
for access to offices within the building, not as an entrance or
exit.
Mr. Feiszli stated that the corridor that is shown is an
existing corridor that serves the rear of the offices that are
there, but that there was an exit at the east side of the Suite
as shown in the drawing.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that meant that there was only
one door that exists to the north of the building.
Mr. Feiszli stated that was correct, and that it was a 44-
inch wide door.
Planner JoAnn Cornish stated that she had compiled some
figures regarding parking and traffic flow and distributed them
to each of the Board Members, Ms. Cornish stated that there was
not a significant increase in the demand for parking taking the
worse -case scenario for general office space. Ms. Cornish stated
that traffic could be impacted somewhat if there were a more
intensive use in that space, but she did not think it is
extremely significant. Ms. Cornish stated that parking at East
Hill Plaza seems to be adequate for most uses that are there, the
rear lot is, according to the square footage of this space,
almost filled to capacity, but is adequate.
Chairperson Cornell stated that she was not sure that it is
appropriate for the Planning Board to be reviewing projects
dealing with interior design. Chairperson Cornell stated that
the parking issue is probably the reason why the Board is seeing
this. Chairperson Cornell stated that the thresholds that
mandate Planning Board review should be reviewed and possibly
updated. Chairperson Cornell stated that she also feels that
signs could be reviewed by a different Board or by staff as well,
• and that these were issues that should be considered.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that one of her concerns, when
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Planning Board Minutes 9 February 6, 1996
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considering traffic, is that from the back of the building, there
are a number of driveways right next to one another. Ms.
Hoffmann stated that it is hard to turn south because of the
speed of traffic coming north, and to increase the number of cars
using these access points could cause problems.
Planner Cornish stated that she did not feel that this
specific project would cause such an increase in traffic that
problems would be generated from this change.
Board Member Wilcox asked if there were any deficiencies, in
terms of actions this Board has approved that have not been
completed yet, on this property.
Director of Planning Jonathan Kanter stated that P &C is
proposing to expand, which will be on an upcoming agenda, and the
landscaping and parking improvements that were approved awhile
ago were never completed, but will be addressed when they return
to the Board with a proposed action.
Planner
Cornish stated that Cornell
University has
submitted
to the Town,
a letter of commitment for
those landscape
and
parking lot
improvements, as part of the
P &C Expansion
project.
Assistant
Town
Planner Frantz
stated, in response to Ms.
Hoffmann's
concerns
about
traffic,
that one
aspect of this
proposal
is that users
of
this area
have two
ways of getting to
and from
the Plaza,
from
Judd Falls
Road, or
around East Hill
Plaza to
the Ellis
Hollow
Road entrance.
Mr.
Frantz stated that
the use is a fairly low traffic generator and there are two
points of access.
Board Member Wilcox
stated, for the
record, that
he was at
Andree's gas station at
East Hill Plaza
and was using
the most
northern pump and it was
wide enough for
two lanes of
cars, and
there were cars going in
and out of the
gas station as
a
shortcut, and it was a mess.
Chairperson Cornell stated that she had been going by the
same gas station and stated that would be addressed when the P &C
Expansion project comes before the Board.
Chairperson Cornell asked if there were any further comments
regarding Suite 210 at East Hill Plaza. No one spoke.
Chairperson Cornell asked if anyone were prepared to offer a
motion regarding approval of the proposed site plan.
MOTION by Fred Wilcox, seconded by Herbert Finch:
WHEREAS:
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1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final
Site Plan Approval for the proposed interior modifications
to 4,000 +/- square feet of rentable office space previously
used by the Southeast Asia Program and Nuclear Studies, now
known as Suite 210, located at East Hill Plaza corner of
Judd Falls Road and Ellis Hollow Road, Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 62- 2- 1.121, Business District C, Cornell
University, Owner; Bonnie J. VanAmburg, Agent.
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board, acting as Lead Agency in environmental
review with respect to Site Plan Approval, has, on February
61 1996, made a negative determination of environmental
significance, after having reviewed and accepted as adequate
the Short Environmental Assessment Form part I, prepared by
the applicant, and a Part II prepared by the Town Planning
staff, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Publ
has reviewed and accepted as
"Proposed Floor Plan - Suite
1996, prepared by Resource As
10, 1996, and additional appl
• NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
is Hearing on February 6, 1996
adequate a floor plan entitled
210," and dated January 15,
sociates, date stamped January
ication materials.
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain
requirements for Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval,
as shown on the Preliminary and Final Site Plan Checklist,
having determined from the materials presented that such
waiver will result in neither a significant alteration of
the purpose of site plan control nor the policies enunciated
or implied by the Town Board, and
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final
Site Plan Approval for the proposed interior modifications
entitled "Floor Plan - Suite 210 ", and dated January 15,
1996, prepared by Resource Associates, subject to the
following condition:
a. Submission of an original and two copies of the final
floor plan, revised to include the conditions shown on
the Preliminary and Final Site Plan Checklist attached,
for approval by the Town Engineer and Town Planner.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
is Aye - Cornell, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
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The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
The Board noticed that there was a reference throughout the
various documentation to both Suite 201 and Suite 210, and asked
Mr. Feiszli which number was correct.
Mr. Feiszli indicated Suite 210 was the correct number.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Cornell
declared the matter of Site Plan Approval for Suite 210 at East
Hill Plaza duly closed at 8:15 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM: APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JANUARY 23, 1996.
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by James Ainslie:
RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning
Board Meeting of January 23, 1996, by and hereby are approved
with the following changes:
That on Page 12, Paragraph 3, Last Sentence, which read:
"Ms. Hoffmann stated that if the traffic is moving from inner
• campus to other areas of the Town, it is a concern, and maybe
there would be increased traffic in other areas of the Town."
This was changed to read: "Ms. Hoffmann stated that if the
traffic is moving from inner campus to other areas of the Town,
it is a concern, and maybe there would be increased traffic in
residential areas of the Town."
That on Page 17, Fifth Paragraph, which read: "In the Full
Environemtnal Assessment Form mentioned by Ithacare to the
Planning Board and the Town Board...."
This was changed to read: "In the Full Environemtnal
Assessment Form presented by Ithacare to the Planning Board and
the Town Board...."
That on Page 19, First Paragraph under Other Business, which
read: "Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that while she was at
East Hill Plaza, she saw a half a dozen vehicles cut through the
gas station to avoid having to sit through the intersection."
This was changed to read: " "Board Member Eva Hoffmann
stated taht while she was at the East Hill Plaza gas station, she
saw a half a dozen vehicles use the gas station as a short cut
while exiting East Hill Plaza itself."
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Cornell
called for a vote.
• Aye - Cornell, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell
Nay - None.
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The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN
APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED ITHACARE CENTER SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY
(ALTERNATIVE B /3), PROPOSED TO CONSIST OF A +115,000 SQUARE FOOT
BUILDING WITH 60 ADULT CARE UNITS, 20 ASSISTED LIVING UNITS, AND
80 INDEPENDENT LIVING UNITS, LOCATED ON TEH WEST SIDE OF DANBY
ROAD APPROXIMATELY 2,000 FEET SOUTH OF THE ENTRANCE TO ITHACA
COLLEGE, ON THAT 28 ± ACRE PORTION OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL
N0, 39 -1 -1.3 DESIGNATED AS SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT N0, 7.
ITHACARE CENTER, INC., APPLICANT; MARK MACERA, AGENT,
Chairperson Cornell declared the above -noted matter duly
opened at 8:20 p.m. and read aloud from the Notice of Public
Hearings and posted and published and as noted above.
Mark Macera, representative for Ithacare Center, addressed
the Board and stated Ithacare had put together materials
consistent with the Planning Board's checklists of required items
for Preliminary Site Plan review and approval. Mr. Macera stated
that all of the required documents were submitted and the
material that was submitted includes additional details that in
• his estimation goes beyond the requirements for Preliminary Site
Plan review.
Director of Planning Jonathan Kanter stated that the Adopted
Statement of Findings fulfills the SEQR requirements for this
Site Plan. '
Chairperson Cornell
stated that
this was
a Public Hearing
and asked if anyone from
the public
wished to
speak.
John Yntema of 993 Danby Road, addressed the Board and
stated
that if he
were associated with Ithacare,
the
Board would
not care
where he
lived. Mr.
Yntema stated that
no
one else has
to give
their street
address
except people from
the
public. Mr.
Yntema
read from
a statement
he had prepared.
(Mr.
Yntema's
written
comments
are
hereto
attached
as Exhibit
#2)
Mr. Yntema added to his statement that the fireworks display
at Ithaca College should be considered as well, because it is
very loud and would probably bother the elderly residents of
Ithacare.
Mr. Yntema stated that it seems to be out of order that the
Planning Board is considering a Site Plan Approval when the
applicant still has to go to the Town Board to get approval to
• use this site. Mr. Yntema asked the Attorney Barney if that was
the correct procedure or if it did not matter which came first.
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Attorney Barney responded that it could be handled either
way, and the decision was made to determine whether this site
plan would be approved by this Board and then taken to the Town
Board to determine whether they will amend the Special Land Use
District to permit this site plan. Attorney Barney stated that
the original SLUD laid out a specific variation for the building,
which was somewhat closer to the road than this site plan.
Attorney Barney stated that without knowing whether the Planning
Board would approve this site plan, the Town Board would be
acting somewhat in a vacuum. Attorney Barney stated it was a
question of which should be done first, and the recommendation of
staff was to do the preliminary site plan review prior to the
Town Board amending the SLUD.
Chairperson Cornell stated that it was her understanding
that there would not be any additional building beyond the
proposed project on this property. Chairperson Cornell stated
that the free - standing condos were taken out of the project.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that they were taken
out of the project very early on primarily because the Town had
indicated to Ithacare that there were major environmental
concerns regarding the development of the lower end of the
property.
Chairperson Cornell asked
anywhere that this is the only
location.
if there was a limitation stated
building that will occur at this
Attorney Barney
stated that this
is the only building
that
could occur because
the SLUD indicates
that this is the
only
authorized building
in the previous
footprint, and if
modified,
then this building in
this location
will be the only
construction
to occur within the
SLUD. Attorney
Barney stated even
if there
was an absolute prohibition
placed in
the record now,
saying
there
shall
be no
building other
than this building, a future
Board
could
amend
that provision
of the law.
Chairperson Cornell stated that there should be some
language that ensures the continued use of the overlook for the
members of the public. Chairperson Cornell asked if it had been
decided who would maintain the overlook.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated, as of now, the State
does not maintain the overlook. Mr. Frantz stated that he had
spoken with a member of their staff in Cortland, which has
jurisdiction over the overlook, who stated that Ithaca College
maintains the overlook at this time.
Michael
Robinson of
248 Floral
Avenue, addressed the Board
and read from
a prepared
statement
as follows:
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"About 500 years ago, when the proud Cayuga Nation tracked
from its winter quarters near Lansing to its upland summer home
near Upper Buttermilk, the land that they called The Place of the
Tall Trees, the people could gaze from the very top of South Hill
and see the big waters, the lake that bears their name. For
several decades in this century motorists have marvelled as they
approach the crest of the hill just south of Ithaca College on
Route 96B and gaze at the incredible panorama the Cayugas beheld
with awe. Now, this evening, you are being asked to sully this
natural treasure by allowing Ithacare to obstruct that view.
Ithacare says it has to be that way, any other way is too
expensive, but that's not so. They raised the money to build
what they want to build, and had they cared at all about the
people of this area and the people of the state of New York and
the others that have enjoyed that beautiful site, they would have
raised the money to site the building properly. But you see,
it's money we are talking about, we are not talking about the
elderly, we're talking about money, and they don't care to spend
the money to preserve our environmental treasures. If any other
type of business, and yes Ithacare is a business, tried such a
thing the outrage would be universal. But Ithacare provides
facilities for the elderly and therefore is considered special.
If it is special, it's not special because it's going to sully a
• site, it's special because it provides a needed service. It
comes out and talks about all the time, well we're not really a
business, we're a not - for - profit business, and that implies that
they are some kind of charity, well they are not a charity, they
are not non - profit, they are not for profit, and there is a major
difference which I think you would all do well to have John
Barney explain to you. But the wealthiest corporation today in
the State of California is Fair Lawn Cemetery, which happens to
be a not - for - profit business. Had they raised the money to move
further down the hill and make some adjustments, they would not
have to really worry about pumping sewage uphill because that's
what this is all about. They could have just continued their
sewage lines down over until they hit Stone Quarry Road and tied
in there and everything could have operated on a gravity flow
system. But that meant getting easements and right of ways and a
lot of other work and that is something no one wanted to encumber
because they wanted to build the edifice in the most expedient
way possible. In the Environmental Impact study there was no
inventory or survey of wildlife and potentially endangered
species. Maybe some people don't think that's very important,
but it is the law, it is required, and it has not been included.
You know, I've travelled all over the world and I've seen some
beautiful sites, I've seen Angel Falls in South America, I've
seen the great planes of Africa, and I've seen the falls at
Yellow Stone and none of those sites is any more spectacular or
• more beautiful than the site we're talking about impinging upon
right now, and it should not be allowed. Killing out environment
piece by piece is just an exercise that leads to killing it all,
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and this is an environmental treasure we're talking about. This
is an environmental treasure. That view is something our grand
children aren't going to get to see, not the way it exists today.
Oh, they will get a corner of it here and a corner of it there,
and that will probably disappear, because in the name of progress
or profit, in five years time there will be somebody back here
saying well we have to go up another 30 feet because there are
all of these elderly people that really don't have no place to go
right now, and it is incumbent upon you, not to use your heads
but to use your hearts, and just deprive everybody else that's
ever going to drive by there of the opportunity to view what's
left. If you give an inch, the mile is gone. Recently, the City
of Ithaca Planning Board had to consider whether or not to
benefit to the tune of $500,000 a year in new taxes from a Wal
Mart store and have a couple of hundred jobs come in with it, and
whether I agreed with them or not does not matter, because they
said no. And the first thing they listed when they said no, was
the protection of the viewshed from the property entirely in the
Town of Ithaca It would seem to me, this Board could sort out
fact from fiction, and tell the applicants to go back and do it
the right way. I don't want to cause them a lot of problems, I
think they do a great job in doing what they do. It's just that
they don't care about the people being hurt in this process. The
property owners in that area, a lot of the value of their homes
is based on the view from their homes up there and you know what,
I've talked to several of those property owners and not one
person from Ithacare has shown up and said, hey we realize we're
going to cut the value of your property in half, you're going to
have to go down and ask for a reassessment of your house and we
would like to do the right thing to see that you are compensated
for that because there is not sense of equity coming from the
proponents here. The only sense of equity is coming from the
opponents who say, hey listen, the facility is great but move it
down the hill and site it in such a way that is not going to
cause a problem. Part of the, if we move it down the hill we'll
mess up the wetlands, is a smoke screen to stop from going down
the hill because the property can be sited there, it has been
studied by several people. If we tear apart our environment and
this environmental treasure piece by piece by piece, you'll have
to accept the responsibility of doing exactly what our great
nation did in Vietnam when we tried killing for peace. That
didn't work and this isn't going to work because in the long run
everyone will be hurt. If passed, they'll come back and it will
go on and on and on, and Ithacare should not be in a position to
dictate to future generations that will benefit from that
glorious site. And if you pass this, and I beg you not to, if
you pass this, you will all be able to say I have met the enemy
and we are it. Thank you."
• Ruth Newhall, resident of Ithacare and Vice - President of the
resident council, addressed the Board and stated, "as an elected
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representative of the 80 residents and their many family members,
I encourage the Planning Board to grant Ithacare Preliminary Site
Plan approval. The environmental impact statement has addressed
all of the significant issues and has made two very important
findings. They include confirming the need for and benefits to
Ithacare's senior living community, and determining ,that building
Ithacare on the South Hill Site will not have a significant
adverse impact on any aspect of the environment. Please help up
us to move forward in a timely manner and avoid unnecessary
delays which deny the elderly the housing and the supportive
services they require. Thank you for your consideration.
Joseph A. Cimmino,,addressed the Board and read from a
prepared statement. (Mr. Cimmino's statement is attached hereto
as Exhibit #4)
Board Member Hoffmann stated that Mr. Cimmino was
referencing the comments she had made at the last meeting, and
she simply compared the figures that were given in the original
Environmental Assessment Form with the numbers that are in the
Alternative B3, and there was a big difference between them.
Mr. Cimmino asked if Alternative B3 was higher than the
• original proposal.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that he thought, from his
own recollection, the original Short Environmental Assessment
Form, meaning not the one associated with this Environmental
Impact Statement, but the ones that were completed previous to
site plan, in many ways should not even be considered because the
numbers only can confuse the current process. Mr. Kanter stated
that he did not think it was appropriate to include that
reference in Ms. Hoffmann's statement regarding the current
Findings Statement,
Board Member Hoffmann stated that her comments were based on
the documents approved by the Planning Board and passed on to the
Town Board at the time the SLUD was being considered, and that is
why she made that comment.
Mr. Cimmino stated that it was confusing to-him because he
understood that there were three alternatives for consideration.
Mr. Cimmino stated that Ms. Hoffmann's figures were from
documents that were not part of this SEQR process. Mr. Cimmino
asked if Alternative B3 is taller than the three alternatives
considered in the SEQR process.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that Mr. Cimmino would have to
• look at those figures himself.
Chairperson Cornell asked if there was any validity that
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Alternative B3 was higher than the original action.
Attorney Barney stated that he remembered there being
confusion of what datum was being used, which showed some
discrepancy in the figures used.
Mark Macera addressed the Board and stated that in October
1993 a development review application, which included an
environmental assessment form before any significant studies that
were done on the site and any architectural designs done, we
supplied information that was accurate and complete information
at the time that indicated that there were approximate numbers
regarding the building design. Mr. Macera stated that it
indicated, as Ms. Hoffmann had identified in her comments, that
the building height would be approximately 591 feet, if he
remembers correctly. Mr. Macera stated that the issue became,
that the zoning for this property was not going to accommodate
this project, so the zoning needed to be amended to provide a
Special Land Use District, Mr. Macera stated that at the same
time, it was required of Ithacare to put together more detailed
information of what the building was going to look like. The
submission that was made in December of 1993 included L. Robert
Kimball designs dated December 10, 1993, it included high roof
• ridges of 601 feet and all the details associated with the
building, which was in the environmental impact statement, which
identified the original action as 601 feet. Mr. Macera stated
that everything since then has gone down hill, to 597 feet since
the documentation, that was part of the application for amendment
of the SLUD. Mr. Macera stated that the EAF, which was
considered as part of the environmental assessment, is being used
and stated as being the definitive figure, it was never submitted
as such, was never interpreted as such, but has been used to
suggest that the building height has gone from 591 to 597, which
is not an accurate account of what has occurred. Mr. Macera
stated that the reduction from the original plan of 601 feet, has
gone down four feet to 597 feet.
Mr. Cimmino thanked the Board for the clarification, their
time and their attention.
Chairperson Cornell noted that this was a Public Hearing and
asked if there was anyone else present that wished to speak. No
one spoke. Chairperson Cornell closed the Public Hearing and
brought the matter back to the Board for discussion.
Chairperson Cornell stated that she feels very strongly that
this should be the only building on this lot. Chairperson
Cornell stated that she understood that it could be changed in
. the future, but if the Planning Board agreed that this should be
the only building and that future buildings should not be
allowed, and that is made a condition in the decision, at least
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it would be in the record for future Planning Boards and Town
Boards in the event that they do come to the Town with another
proposal.
Board Member Gregory Bell stated that he did not see the
necessity for doing that because the SLUD specifies only one
building be placed on that lot anyway.
Board Member James Ainslie stated that the biggest problem
with this proposal has been the view and if anything further was
built on this lot, it would be down back of the proposed building
which would absolutely have nothing to do with the view.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that there would still be the
restraints that the Board has been given as reasons why this
building could not be moved, which is because of the cost of
excavation because of the steep slopes, the amount of rock in the
ground, erodible soils, and the proximity to the wetland.
Board Member Ainslie
stated
that smaller
buildings would not
need the foundation of
the
large
proposed
building.
Attorney Barney stated that he
• Planning Board should prejudge this
the future. Attorney Barney stated
the issues as they are presented to
other project or property,
does not feel that the
parcel because we do not know
that the Board should judge
them, just as they would any
Mark Macera stated that when Ithacare came to the Town,
discussing the long term plans, the issue became what was
included in this continuum of care. Mr. Macera stated that the
possibility of a skilled nursing facility, cottages or separate
units was discussed, but at that time it was made clear to
Ithacare representatives that without very definitive plans, that
those issues could not be considered as part of the SLUD as well
as part of the Preliminary Site Plan approval. Mr. Macera stated
that there are no detailed plans and therefore it had to be
withdrawn. Mr. Macera stated that the plans exist, if and when
that time comes, the issues will be addressed at the time that
the proposal is made to the Town. Mr. Macera stated that he
would encourage the Board not to preclude Ithacare from
approaching the Board.
Board Member Ainslie asked if he had heard one of the
members of the public stated that Ithacare had threatened the
Planning Board, Mr. Ainslie stated that he does not like that
kind of statement. Mr. Ainslie stated that he has not been
threatened, and he felt that statement should be stricken.
• Board Member Herbert Finch asked for clarification to be
sure that he understands the procedure. Mr. Finch stated that
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the Planning Board is
considering
Preliminary
Site Plan tonight
with the recommendation
that goes
to the Town
Board,
Attorney Barney stated that if the Planning Board finds this
plan approvable, then any approval has to be conditional on the
Town Board amending the SLUD to allow this particular site plan
to be the final plan. Attorney Barney stated if approved by the
Town Board and the SLUD modified, then Ithacare will appear
before the Planning Board for Final Site Plan approval.
Board Member
Finch
asked
if
a Public Hearing would be
involved with the
Final
Site
Plan
approval.
Attorney Barney stated that Final Site Plan does not
require a Public Hearing, the Board may or may not hold a Public
Hearing.
Board Member Finch asked if the Town Board decision would
have a Public Hearing,
Attorney Barney stated that the Town Board decision will be
subject to a Public Hearing,
Board Member Fred Wilcox asked what the difference was
between a trail and a path, because they were identified
differently on the trails plan (Drawing L5) provided by Ithacare.
Mr. Macera stated
that
the trails as indicated on that
drawing to the left of
the
building itself are
the nature trails.
Mr. Macera stated that
the
"path" referenced on
the drawing is to
allow the residents to
walk
all the way around
the building. Mr.
Macera stated that it
would
not be concrete or
asphalt.
Fred Noetscher, Architect from L. Robert Kimball &
Associates, stated that the path around the building could be a
crushed stone walk.
Mr. Macera stated that the concept is to permit residents to
move completely around the building unobstructed, a path.
Assistant
Town
Planner Frantz
stated,
for the purpose of
this plan,
the
path
will then be
more developed
in terms of its
surface.
Mr.
Frantz
stated that
the detailed
drawings regarding
the trails
and
path
state that they would
be made of the same
material,
which
is
indicated
as "Granular
trail and path ".
Mr. Noetscher addressed the Board and stated that he has
been involved with this project for the last two and one half
® years. Mr. Noetscher stated that the path Ithacare is trying to
describe would be, as requested by Mr. Macera, a path at five
percent grade or less and would connect hard surfaces, such as
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walkways, which would be to the east of the building with the
back of the building so that their clients could walk around the
entire facility. Mr. Noetscher stated that the trail itself,
which is the nature trail was calculated at a half mile in
length, which would run west of the building and through the
meadow and wooded areas and be open for public use.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she felt that the drawings
they received were hard to look at because they were so small,
and asked for a presentation by Mr. Noetscher.
Mr. Noetscher stated that he assumed that everyone knew why
the building is in its current location because of all of the
work that has been done in the SEQR review. Why the building is
in its current configuration, once again, as a mitigating factor
for the SEQR review. Mr. Noetscher stated, referring to Map SK-
L1J, shows the configuration of the building. Mr. Noetscher
stated, in order to reduce the overall width of the building a
garden level apartment has been added that would run along the
west face of the building. Grading is such that there is a five
percent slope down to the western area, which is not only for
client /patient use, but also for possibly emergency vehicles.
Mr. Noetscher asked that everyone bare in mind that when this
• particular project went through its problems a year ago, Ithacare
and Kimball were in contact with the Town Engineers, the Fire
Department, and was negotiating different things in order to move
the project forward. Because of the legal problems, those
negotiations were stopped, so the Fire Department has been
contacted, but he has not received official approval on Fire
hydrant placement, the water loop, or access to the west of the
building at this point. Mr. Noetscher stated that the parking
arrangements are basically the same as was shown on the original
proposed action. The parking has been changed between the
building and the pond trying to add a little more parking and to
allow deliveries from semi - tractor trailers to be more
convenient. Mr. Noetscher stated that the sewage is shown with
connection off -site, an easement or right -of -way will be received
from Ithaca College for that connection. Mr. Noetscher stated
that discussions have been stopped with the utilities as well.
Mr. Noetscher stated that Ithacare would be getting gas and power
connections off Route 96B to the Building. The storm drainage
system is set up as shown on the proposed action, A storm system
run around the building to the south, and empties out below the
outlet of the pond. There is a smaller storm system that will
empty out on grade along the north end of the property. Mr.
Noetscher stated that this will also be designed to handle any
mitigating circumstances for no increase in runoff in that area.
• Mr. Noetscher stated, referring to Drawing L4, which is the
Planting Plan, stated that Ithacare had contacted Bob Wesley and
John Confer, who suggested plant materials that would be added to
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the site
and would
attract
birds and small animals,
and placed
along the
western side
of
the building and along the
embankment.
Mr. Noetscher
stated
that
there would be more formal
plantings
along the
front of
the building,
there would be lawn,
and smaller
flowering
trees and
shrubs.
Mr. Noetscher stated, referring to Drawing L5, which shows
the trail system that is being proposed. Mr. Noetscher stated
that in the Findings Statement the Town said that they would like
to see parking in the northern parking lot for access to the
trail system, and through out this process, Ithacare has proposed
parking in the southern -most parking lot in direct connection to
that trail at that point. Mr. Noetscher stated that the trail
comes out at the northern parking lot, but because of the
proximity to the building, Ithacare assumes their clients will be
parking in the northern parking lot, with overflow parking,
visitor parking, and employee parking will occur in the southern
parking lot, therefore, it would be a logical place to assign a
specific number of spaces for people that may wish to use the
trail system.
Mr. Noetscher stated, referring to Drawing A6R, that in the
process of developing this building Ithacare has limited funds
• and before developing the building, he would need to know what
type of action that would be approvable by this Planning Board,
so what was submitted was one front elevation drawing, which
should be considered typical of all other views of the building.
Mr. Noetscher stated, that he means typical from the standpoint
of materials, finishes and textures. Mr. Noetscher stated that
there are panels of brick interrupted by panels of siding, which
will be the overall character of the building from basically any
viewpoint.
Board Member Gregory Bell asked if the section of the
elevation drawing was just the front wing.
Mr. Noetscher stated that it was the entire front of the
building.
Board Member Bell stated that it does not represent the
actual view of what one would look at if standing there because
there are wings that reach out on both sides and would be visible
from the point at which the drawing was taken from.
Mr. Noetscher stated that this was an orthographic
projection of the front of the building, it is not a perspective,
it is not intended to show things behind it or on the side of it.
Board Member Bell stated that he understood that and wanted
to be sure that the Board understood that. Mr. Bell stated that
the building would, in fact, be 50 percent longer than shown in
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Drawing A6R.
Mr. Noetscher stated that how much longer it appeared would
depend on how much closer one was to the building. i
Board Member Hoffmann asked what would be seen from the
northern -most corner of the overlook. I
Mr. Macera stated that was shown in the computer generated
images submitted in the EIS, on Page IV.H.2.b.
Mr. Noetscher stated that in satisfying the requirements for
Preliminary Site Plan approval there was no requirement for a
perspective of the building showing any information, I but simply
elevations of the building which is shown on this drawing.
Board
Member Bell
stated that if
the
Board does
not
understand
the
distinction,
this
could
be
misleading.
Mr. Noetscher asked if the
trying to misrepresent anything
form, textures, and materials of
Board understood that he was not
to them, other than to show the
the building with this image.
• Assistant Town Planner showed the Board what amount of the
wings would be visible to someone standing on the northern end of
the overlook by placing a file folder on that spot on the
overlook, which showed that the amount of the northeast wing that
would be visible would be very little. Mr. Frantz stated, doing
the same thing with the west wing, which showed that none of the
west wing should be visible from the midwest point of the parking
area to the 590 mark on the drawing. Mr. Frantz stated, from the
southern end of the overlook, from the number 600 mark on the
drawing, you would see from the edge of the lower roof line, you
would see approximately half of that wing, using the higher roof
line, you would see most of the wing.
Chairperson Cornell asked if the materials that were
submitted were enough for the Board to be considering Preliminary
Site Plan Approval.
Director of Planning Kanter responded that his opinion is
that the items that have been submitted were more than adequate
for what we would normally want to see for Preliminary Site Plan
review. Mr. Kanter added, referring to the building elevations,
additional building elevations that the Town would like to see
submitted as part of Final Site Plan Approval that would include
elevations through each of the wings from all angels, as
mentioned in the draft resolution provided to the Planning Board
• at this meeting. Mr. Kanter stated that the Board could ask for
some kind of a bird'seye perspective view of the building as
viewed from the overlook:
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Chairperson Cornell stated that if the Board felt strongly
about that it could be asked for.
Mr. Noetscher
bird'seye view or a
asked if Mr.
perspective
Kanter was
view from
referring to a
the overlook as one
would actually view
the building
from that
area.
location.
Chairperson
Cornell
asked if people would
be looking out at
the cars located
on the
south - westerly parking
area.
Mr. Macera stated that the parking lot will be located well
above this level, and it would be graded in such a way that the
residents would be seeing an embankment that would be properly
landscaped so that the view would not be of vehicles.
Board Member Bell stated, referring to the elevation
drawings, on each of the unit drawings shown in A6R, it appears
that each one has a large expanse of something, is that a patio,
sliding glass door.
Mr. Noetscher stated that they will probably be sliding
glass doors, at grade, they would be all around the building in
any unit that is at grade.
Board Member Bell asked if there would be a patio in front
of those doors.
Mr. Noetscher stated that they would probably provide a
small concrete pad.
Board Member Bell asked if they open into living rooms in
the units.
Mr. Noetscher stated that the doors would open into the
living space of each unit.
Mr. Macera stated that any living units at grade would have
patios, living units on second level would have balcony or porch
of some sort. Mr. Macera stated that the reason that is not
shown on the front of the building is because the highest level
of care is located directly over the top of the common area to
reduce travel distances between high level need,and the support
area to meet the needs of that population.
Board Member Bell stated that it would seem to him that
having this huge expanses of glass would be an invasion of
privacy, and he would be surprised that people that live there
would want something like that.
Mr. Macera stated that the elderly seniors are no different
than the rest of us in regard to wanting as much open area and
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lighted window spaces as possible. Mr. Macera stated that in
open session groups, it was determined that they prefer as many
windows and wide open space as possible.
Planner Cornish asked if there was security on the grounds
of Ithacare.
Mr. Macera stated that they would incorporate the necessary
apparatus that will meet the needs for seniors, the issue of
emergency call systems will be located in all critical common
areas as well as individual units so there can be emergency
response 24 hours a day. Beyond that, the potential for
"security" with regard to personnel, other than the staff that is
there 24 hours per day. Mr. Macera stated that there will be no
formal security apparatus. Ithaca College may have their
security drive through the property several times a day as part
of the relationship with the college.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that it sounds to her as though
this is all very fluid because the sliding glass doors were
described as sliding glass doors with a possible small concrete
pad in front of it, so it sounds as if there may not be sliding
glass doors.
• Mr. Macera stated that Ms. Hoffmann was correct, there could
be atrium doors, french doors; the question of which type of
doors will be there is unknown, but there will be some sort of
large doors.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz
stated
that in the
half dozen
retirement /elderly communities
that
he has
been to in
the last
five years, this type of door seems
to be
very common.
Mr.
Frantz stated that just having
an area
for
the elderly
to have an
individual area where they can
take
care of
plants or
what ever
they prefer to do as a personal
activity
is
considered
good
therapy.
Mr. Noetscher stated that the trails will start at the
southern parking lot and wrap around to the west. Mr. Noetscher
stated that this is being designed to the ADA requirements of
five percent grade or less. As a side note, Mr. Noetscher stated
that this will make an excellent cross - country skiing trail.
There also will be placed along the trails to take advantage of
site features with rest stops. Mr. Noetscher stated that it
would come back to the parking lot on the south end of the
building. Mr. Noetscher stated that the surface would be a layer
compacted crushed stone with literally stone dust sprinkled on
top of it. It becomes a very durable surface, it is still a
granular surface, it will drain well and last for a long time.
It creates a very sturdy surface to walk on. Mr. Noetscher
stated that the pathway will run along the west side of the
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building allowing the clients to walk completely around the
building unobstructed.
Mr. Macera requested that the issue of the northern parking
area not be included for visitor parking due to the proximity of
the back side of the building and living spaces, as it could
infringe upon their privacy and rights.
Board Member James Ainslie asked if the path that goes
around the building would be able to have snow removal done with
a small plow.
Mr. Noetscher stated that the surface would be very durable
and one could run a small tractor over it or a snow blower over
it without any problems.
Mr. Macera stated that in their prior experiences, the
likelihood of someone using the path in bad weather is probably
unlikely. Paths outside of the entrances and exits, and
emergency exits are left untreated during the winter because they
are not used.
Board Member Hoffmann asked what the surface of the pathways
• would be.
Mr. Noetscher stated that, at this point in time, it is
planned to be the same as on the trails.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that he would have no
problem recommending changing condition 2.a.4 in the drafted
resolution regarding the northern parking area as long as the
Board receives a clear indication of the number and location of
spaces in the southern lot for visitors. Mr. Kanter stated that
there should be an indication of how many spaces are being
proposed.
Board Member Bell stated there is a drawing of the sign that
will be built in front of the building, which says Ithacare
Center, Danby Road. Mr. Bell asked if the road number would be
shown on the sign.
Mr. Macera stated that the sign is not accurate, only for
visual review purposes.
Mr. Noetscher stated th
sign conforming to Town of I
bigger of smaller than what
stated that Ithacare has not
• phrasing, or logo.
Mr. Macera stated that
at the sign being shown is a legal
thaca Sign Ordinance. It is not
is allowed by law. Mr. Noetscher
determined the exact terminology,
the location of the sign has been
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determined and is shown on the site plan.
Board Member Bell suggested that the road number be included
on the sign.
Virginia Bryant of Community Relations, stated that Ithacare
had spoken with Ed Gatch, who is the head of the post office, and
he stated that the Town establishes the numbers and after that
was done they would set up for delivery with Ithacare.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she felt it would be
interesting to know the eventual height of some of the trees
that would be planted. Ms. Hoffmann asked which were the tall
growing trees and how high do they get.
Mr.
Noetscher
stated that the
maples
and
the oaks do get
fairly
large; for
final
site plan
review,
he
could include the
average
mature height
of
the trees
on the
planting
schedule or
drawing.
Mr. Noetscher
stated that
he tried
to move the largest
trees on the site
to be
used as a
buffer
for
the parking areas
that
are
there.
Chairperson Cornell stated that the Board wants more detail
• on the plantings and the heights that may reach for final site
plan review.
There appearing to be no further discussion, Chairperson
Cornell asked if anyone were prepared to offer a motion.
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by Herbert Finch:
WHEREAS, this action is the consideration of Preliminary
Site Plan Approval for the proposed Ithacare Center Senior Living
Community, proposed to consist of a ±115,000 sq, ft. building
with 60 adult care units, 20 assisted living units, and 80
independent living units, located on the west side of Danby Road
approximately 2,000 feet south of the entrance to Ithaca College,
on that 28± acre portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39 -1-
1.3 for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board granted
Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval on March 1, 1994,
Special Land Use District No. 7, Ithacare Center, Inc., and
WHEREAS, this is a Type I Action for which the Town of
Ithaca Planning Board, acting as Lead Agency in environmental
review, as directed by the Supreme Court of the State of New
York, did make a positive declaration of Environmental
Significance on December 9, 1994, and directed Ithacare Center to
prepare a Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS), and
• WHEREAS, Ithacare Center had a DEIS prepared which has
thoroughly examined possible adverse environmental impacts of the
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proposed Senior Living Community and has proposed mitigating
measures to minimize such impacts, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Ithaca Planning Board held a public
hearing on July 18, 1995, in order to solicit public comment on
the DEIS, and received substantial public comment, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca, as Lead
Agency, after substantial public comment on the DEIS, on December
19, 1995, accepted a Final Environmental Impact Statement for the
Ithacare Center Senior Living Community incorporating, among
other information, revisions to the DEIS, substantive public
comments received regarding the proposed action, and responses to
said substantive comments, for filing, having duly considered the
potential adverse environmental impacts and proposed mitigating
measures as required under 6 NYCRR 167 (the SEQR Regulations),
and
• WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca has filed
a Notice of Completion of Final EIS, issued the FEIS as required
under 6 NYCRR 617.10 and 617.21, and distributed the FEIS to
involved and interested agencies and to the public, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca, as Lead
Agency, on January 23, 1996, did adopt the Statement of Findings
for the Final Environmental Impact Statement for the proposed
Ithacare Center Senior Living Community Site Plan, and as part of
that Statement of Findings, as indicated that the site plan
identified as Alternative B.3 is the alternative which minimizes
the adverse environmental effects of the proposed project to the
maximum extent practicable, and
WHEREAS,
61 1996, has
Preliminary
WHEREAS,
the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board,
as Lead Agency,
with
the assistance
of Town
Staff,
reviewed the
DEIS submitted on
May
31, 1995,
and on June 20,
1995,
adopted a resolution
finding
the
DEIS to
be satisfactory
with
respect to its
scope, content,
and
adequacy
for the purpose
of
public review,
and
WHEREAS, the Town of Ithaca Planning Board held a public
hearing on July 18, 1995, in order to solicit public comment on
the DEIS, and received substantial public comment, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca, as Lead
Agency, after substantial public comment on the DEIS, on December
19, 1995, accepted a Final Environmental Impact Statement for the
Ithacare Center Senior Living Community incorporating, among
other information, revisions to the DEIS, substantive public
comments received regarding the proposed action, and responses to
said substantive comments, for filing, having duly considered the
potential adverse environmental impacts and proposed mitigating
measures as required under 6 NYCRR 167 (the SEQR Regulations),
and
• WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca has filed
a Notice of Completion of Final EIS, issued the FEIS as required
under 6 NYCRR 617.10 and 617.21, and distributed the FEIS to
involved and interested agencies and to the public, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca, as Lead
Agency, on January 23, 1996, did adopt the Statement of Findings
for the Final Environmental Impact Statement for the proposed
Ithacare Center Senior Living Community Site Plan, and as part of
that Statement of Findings, as indicated that the site plan
identified as Alternative B.3 is the alternative which minimizes
the adverse environmental effects of the proposed project to the
maximum extent practicable, and
WHEREAS,
61 1996, has
Preliminary
the Planning Board, at a Public Hearing on February
reviewed and accepted as adequate for purposes of
Site Plan Approval a submission entitled "Preliminary
Site Plan, Ithacare
Community,"
(Preliminary
Materials Plan),
Center, Ithaca, New
consisting of a series of
Site Plan - Alternative
L -5 (Trail Plan), L -6
York,
drawings
B.3), L -4
and L -7
Senior Living
numbered SK -L1J
(Planting &
(Details), and A-
6R (Elevations), prepared by L. Robert Kimball & Associates, and
dated January 30, 1996, and other application materials.
• NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
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1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby finds that the
proposed reduction in the number of parking spaces from the
required minimum of 107 to 86 spaces will not adversely
affect the traffic circulation on the project site, will
result in an adequate amount of parking for all the
reasonably anticipated uses or occupancies in the project,
and at this time will not adversely affect the general
welfare of the community, and accordingly, subject to the
conditions set forth in Section 38 of the Town of Ithaca
Zoning Ordinance, hereby permits a reduction in the number
of required parking spaces from 107 to 86 spaces.
2. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby grants
Preliminary Site Plan Approval to the proposed Ithacare
Center Senior Living Community, proposed to consist of a
±115,00 sq. ft. building with 60 adult care units, 20
assisted living units, and 80 independent living units,
located on the west side of Danby Road approximately 2,000
feet south of the entrance to Ithaca College, on that 28±
acre portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 -1.3 for
which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board granted Preliminary
and Final Subdivision Approval on March 1, 1994, Special
Land Use District No, 7, Ithacare Center, Inc., and further
• described in additional application materials, subject to
the following conditions:
a, prior to Final Site Plan Approval, revision of the
preliminary site plan to: 1) more clearly show the
location of all proposed parking spaces; 2) to identify
any spaces to be reserved for handicap parking; 3) to
identify the area or areas to be reserved for future
parking if conditions warrant, as per provisions of
Section 38 of the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance; and
4) to clearly designate the number and location of
visitor parking spaces including those to be available
for trail users, in the southern parking area;
b, submission of building elevations for the proposed
structure as viewed from the southeast (toward Main
Entrance), from the northwest, from Danby Road at
approximately the entrance to the site, and from the
southerly property line, said elevations to show the
locations of architectural features such as windows,
doors, gables, and chimneys, and types, color, and
texture of proposed exterior cladding, as well as
submission of an eye -level perspective view of teh
proposed building as viewed from the overlook as part
of the Final Site Plan;
• c, submission to the Planning Board of a completed
landscaping plan and planting schedule for
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consideration as part of the Final Site Plan Approval,
said landscaping to be designed to soften the effect of
the proposed building upon maturity without further
blocking views from the overlook, Danby Road or the
surrounding area, said planting schedule to include
typical average heights of proposed plantings;
d, submission to the Planning Board information on the
size, location, design, and construction materials of
all proposed signs and lighting fixtures for
consideration as part of Final Site Plan Approval, said
fixtures to be designed in a manner that avoids adverse
visual effects on surrounding properties by
incorporating appropriate heights, wattage, and
orientation;
e. revision, where deemed necessary upon further site
investigation, of the design and location of the
proposed internal pathways, walkways, rest areas, and
other facilities that shall be available for public
use, together with a declaration committing the use of
such facilities to the public use in a form approved by
the Town Planner, Town Engineer, and Attorney for the
• Town, prior to the granting of Final Site Plan
Approval;
f* submission to and approval by the Town Engineer of a
stormwater management plan to ensure that there shall
be no net increase in the rate of stormwater runoff in
comparing existing and post development conditions, and
to include specifications for the use of riprap or
other techniques to reduce stormwater velocity where
appropriate, prior to Final Site Plan Approval;
g1 submission to the Planning Board of a detailed
sedimentation and erosion control plan as part of Final
Site Plan Approval, to ensure that impacts to the pond,
wetlands, and stream are minimized and to prevent
downstream flooding;
h, submission of construction details of all proposed
structures, roads, water /sewage facilities, and other
improvements, including a loop connection under Danby
Road to connect the existing 6 inch and 8 inch water
mains, and approval by the Town Board of all required
infrastructure improvements, prior to Final Site Plan
Approval;
i. receipt from the Town of Ithaca Town Board of any
required approvals related to the modifications to the
original Preliminary Site Plan (Drawing LS -2) made by
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Kimball Associates, dated October 4, 1993, which was
submitted to and approved by the Town Board in
conjunction with the approval of Special Land Use
District (SLUD) No. 7, that have resulted from the
completion of the Draft and Final Environmental Impact
Statements for the project, and subsequent Findings
adopted by the Planning Board on January 23, 1996,
prior to further consideration of a Final Site Plan by
the Planning Board;
j. obtaining, if necessary, a temporary construction
easement from Ithaca College to allow encroachment on
its property to the north during site grading
operations prior to Final Site Plan Approval;
k, submission of a site map of the entire Ithacare
property showing the location of the proposed
structure, driveways, parking lots, streams, and other
natural features of the site;
1. submission of an instrument guaranteeing continued
public access and use of the existing overlook and
ensuring ongoing maintenance of said overlook, subject
• to review and approval of the Attorney for the Town and
the Director of Planning, prior to Final Site Plan
Approval.
AND, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THAT:
1) The Planning Board has made a finding that Alternative B.3
is the alternative which minimizes
adverse environmental
impacts to the extent practicable,
and hereby recommends
that the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca modify the
provisions of SLUD No. 7 to permit
the Final Site Plan to
incorporate the building footprint
and configuration of
Alternative B.3 as described in the
EIS, and as shown in the
Preliminary Site Plan submission of
January 30, 1996, and
the necessary site improvements to
implement that
alternative, to be subject to Final
Site Plan Approval by
the Planning Board, subject to the
conditions specified
above, and any other conditions which
the Planning Board may
determine to be appropriate during
the Final Site Plan
review process; and
2) The Planning Board hereby finds that the provisions of SLUD
No. 7 are still appropriate for the subject site, if
modified as recommended above, and that the general
provisions of SLUD No. 7 are still consistent with the
• recommendations of the Town of Ithaca Comprehensive Plan
(September 1993), which designate the site as a combination
of "Urban Residential" and "Suburban Residential," which are
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anticipated to accommodate the higher residential densities
in the Town and generally have the necessary services to
support those uses.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Cornell, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox.
Nay - Hoffmann, Bell.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
Director of Planning Kanter suggested the following changes
to the draft resolution:
That condition 2.a. - change "northern" to "southern" in
that condition, and add clearly designate number and location of
visitor parking spaces.
That in Part B - ask for a perspective of the view of the
building from the overlook.
Part 2.c. - add planting schedule to include typical average
heights of plantings.
Attorney Barney stated the he would like to add, in the
• Second Line of the Second WHEREAS statement the words "as
directed.by.the Supreme Court of the State of New York ",
The Planning Board concurred with the suggested revisions to
the proposed resolution, which have been incorporated into the
Final Adopted Resolution as shown above.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Cornell, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox.
Nay - Hoffmann, Bell.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
AGENDA ITEM: CONSIDERATION
REVOKE PRELIMINARY
OF APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO
SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED
SUBDIVISION OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO, 42
ACRES IN SIZE, INTO TWO PARCELS, APPROXIMATELY
0.64± ACRES IN SIZE RESPECTIVELY, LOCATED AT 346
RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -15, ESTATE OF STEPHEN J.
FRANK J. RAPONI, APPLICANT.
-1 -9.14, 1/43±
0.70+ ACRES AND
CODDINGTON ROAD,
RAPONI, OWNER;
Board Member Herbert Finch asked if there was any response
from Mr. Raponi from Mr. Kanter's letter advising that the
preliminary subdivision approval would be revoked.
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Director of Planning Kanter stated that there had been no
response to date.
There
being no
discussion,
Chairperson Cornell asked if
anyone were
prepared
to offer a
motion.
MOTION by Fred Wilcox, seconded by Gregory Bell:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the consideration of Revocation of
Preliminary Subdivision Approval for the proposed
subdivision of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 42 -1 -9.14, 1.43
+/- acres, into two parcels, approximately 0.70' + /- acres
and 0.64 +/- acres in size respectively, located at 346
Coddington Road, Residence District R -15. Estate of Stephen
J. Raponi, Owner; Frank J: Raponi, Applicant; and
2. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on August 2,
1994, has review and accepted as adequate the Short
Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the
applicant, a Part II prepared by the Town Planning staff, a
subdivision plat entitled "Survey Map, No 346 Coddington
• Road, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York," prepared
by T.G. Miller, P.C. Engineers and Surveyors, and dated June
2, 1994, and other application materials; and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on August 2,
1994, did grant, with conditions, Preliminary Subdivision
Approval for the above - referenced subdivision, and at a
meeting held on August 16, 1994, did re -adopt the resolution
for Preliminary Subdivision Approval of the above - referenced
subdivision; and
4. Section 276 (5)(h) of the Town Law states that ... "within
six months of the approval of the preliminary plat the owner
must submit the plat in final form. If the final plat is
not submitted within six months, approval of the preliminary
plat may be revoked by the planning board. "; and
5. The Planning Board has not received a final plat for the
above - referenced subdivision; and
6. The Director of Planning sent a letter, dated October 30,
1995, to Frank Raponi, indicating that if the Town did not
hear from Mr. Raponi by November 30, 1995, the Town would
assume that Mr. Raponi was not interested in pursuing the
subdivision; and
• 7. No response to the October 30, 1995, letter was received
from Mr. Raponi;
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Planning Board hereby revokes the Preliminary
Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of Town of
Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 42 -1 -9.14, 1.43 +/- acres, into two
parcels, approximately 0.70 +/- acres and 0.64 +/- acres in
size respectively, located at 346 Coddington Road, Residence
District R -15. Estate of Stephen J. Raponi, Owner; Frank J.
Raponi, Applicant.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Cornell, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM: APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NOVEMBER 21, 1995.
MOTION by James Ainslie, seconded by Robert Kenerson:
RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the November 21, 1995 Meeting
is of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board be and hereby are approved
with the following corrections:
That on Page
bedrock between a
between 12 and 20
This was cha
depth of 20 to 40
and 20 inches."
2, Last Paragraph, which read: "...the ORB has
depth of 20 to 40 inches, and the LTB soil is
inches."
nged to read: "...the ORB has bedrock between a
inches, and in the LTB soil it is between 12
That on Page 11,'Second Paragraph, which read: "Board
Member Hoffmann asked why the excavation costs are so much
greater for that alternative,..."
This was changed to read: "Board Member Hoffmann asked why
the excavation costs are so much greater for the Modified
Alternative B3,1.111
.
That
on Page
18, Last Paragraph, which read: "...as
well as
from the
overlook
because she
felt that
this was equally
important,
it is
a place where
the public
sees the road,
as well
as the overlook."
This
was changed
to read:
"...as
well as from the overlook
because she
felt
that this was
equally
important, it is a
place
where the
public
sees the view
from the
road, as well as
from the
overlook.
® There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
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Aye - Cornell, Hoffmann,'Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM: APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NOVEMBER 7, 1995.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by James Ainslie:
RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the November 7, 1995 Meeting
of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board be and hereby are approved
with the following corrections:
That on Page 18, Second Paragraph, Second Sentence, which
read: "Mr. Macera stated that he had met with the
representatives of Ithacare on October 16th,..."
This was changed to read: "Mr. Kanter stated that he had
met with the representatives of Ithacare on October 16th,..."
That on Page 29, the following was added to the end of the
Fourth Paragraph: "Ms. Hoffmann stated that there was a dental
office at Community Corners, Dr. Patrick's office, and that
office was not lit up like Dr. Thompson's office is."
• There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Cornell, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM: OTHER BUSINESS.
Chairperson Cornell
stated that in
the packets copies of
the
revised changes to the
SEQR regulations.
Ms. Cornell stated
that
the Planning Federation
is organization
which is going to be
held
on March 20, and March
21, 1996 in the
evening, which will be
to
discuss these changes.
Ms. Cornell will
forward additional
information when it gets
closer to that
date.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that staff had also
distributed an outline prepared by Attorney Barney of how and why
the Town is changing the SEQR and Public Hearing procedures, and
asked that the Board Members review that when they can.
Mr. Kanter stated that the Buttermilk Valley DEIS will be on
40 the Agenda for February 20, 1996 agenda. The Board has 30 days
from the receipt of the DEIS to determine whether it is complete
for review of the Public.
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Mr. Kanter stated that Andrew Frost, Building Inspector,
Zoning Officer for the Town of Ithaca had mentioned that Cayuga
Medical Center on Trumansburg Road is setting up a large sign,
and the Town has not jurisdiction over that sign. Mr. Kanter
stated that the hospital would be willing to display a cut out of
what the sign would look like and would be willing to set it up
tomorrow if the Town advised them of what time they would be
viewing that sign, if interested.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon MOTION, Chairperson Cornell declared the February 6,
1996, Meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board duly adjourned
at 10:48 p.m.
DRAFTED: 2/15/96.srh
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Respectfully submitted,
a Hays,
Recording Secretary,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board.
Z12
Mary nt,
Administrative Secretary,
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Testimony of John Yntema Re: Ithacare - Preliminary Site Plan Hearing
1. Although the Planning Board used a very strict interpretation of the SEQR regulations
paragraph 617.14(f)(5), about what alternative sites Ithacare should be required to consider
in their preparation of the EIS, those regulations say (emphasis mine):
"The range of alternatives must include the no- action alternative..... [and] ..... for private
applicants .... site alternatives may be limited to parcels owned by, or under
option to, a private applicant."
A. With respect to the no- action alternative: I have not attended all the Planning Board
meetings about the Ithacare project, but I do not recall any at which the "no action"
alternative was discussed by the Planning Board. However, I do recall a few instances in
which Ithacare seemed to be indirectly threatening the Planning Board with rather dire
consequences if it did not accede to Ithacare's wishes to construct on the 9 acre portion of
the 28t acre site being considered for their current project. This is hardly an admirable
approach. One example appears on the bottom of page VII -1 of the DEIS.
•
B. At one of the Ithacare hearings, one of their representatives said they would supply
information on the "Site Analysis Study Report" prepared for them in 1990 by Planning/
Environmental Research Consultants. What appeared in the DEIS were only the first six
pages of the 22 page report. A comment on page 6, with respect to the chosen site, is
interesting: "A serious concern with S -1 is the possible loss of the best view in Ithaca."
The Planning Board apparently was not afforded the chance to examine the details of the
other 16 pages, which give some details about each site in the study. Now that the Planning
Board has gone through the SEQR process, this might be a good time to revisit the
"Alternate sites" possibility. Depending on how one interprets "ties scores ", the site Ithacare
chose was #5 or #6 on the list. Is this still the best site for this project?
2. 1 have some trouble believing the FEIS speculation that the selected site would have
been #1, if the College's Gerontology Program had been in place in 1990, and I wonder
who wrote that speculation. One reason for my concern about this is that the Director of the
Gerontology Institute, in a letter included in the FEIS states, " ... the proximity of Ithacare to
Ithaca College is crucial ... [it] will allow students to walk to the facility and Ithacare residents
walk to the campus.,..". This same proximity /walking argument was set forth by another
Ithaca College official in a hearing many months ago.
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This assertion about walking to and from the campus by the elderly is ridiculous. I
..challenge all members of the Planning Board and the Board of Ithacare to make that trek,
both ways. It would be instructive for all concerned to walk along 96B, with its 50 mph speed
limit, particularly in winter weather when the snow is piled high on the highway shoulders.
Let me know how many people finish that round trip.
3. Of serious concern is what will happen to the remaining 19± acres, on a 28 ± acre parcel
of land ALL of which was originally zoned to accommodate this building which would
occupy only the easternmost 9 acres. As the Planning Board must remember vividly, there
were repeated references to Ithacare's inability to build farther to the west because of the
"steep slopes, wetland(s), and stream corridors ". I cannot help but note that it has never
been made clear why the stream corridors are not part of the wetlands.
Be that as it may, one can only wonder why Ithacare, in its original plans outlined to the
public at NCR in the fall of 1992, subsequently at a presentation to business people at
Ithaca College, and in both its EAF and DEIS, and again in the FEIS, mentions free-
standing condominiums and a skilled nursing facility, first as plans, then as possibilities it •
will investigate, and in the FEIS as "complementary to the currently proposed project."
Ithacare seems to be maintaining the position that, although the steep slopes, wetlands,
and stream corridors prevent their building on the western 19± acres AT THE PRESENT
TIME, they expect that the Planning Board, the Planning Department, and the Town Board
will allow them to build there in the future. It would seem appropriate for the Planning Board
to establish NOW what the parameters are for future use of the western 19± acres of this
parcel; this would seem to be an important part of the final site plan Ithacare intends to
submit.
4. At one time in its considerations, the Planning Board
done about requiring open spaces designation, either in
larger 66t acre parcel of which the 28± acre parcel was
the Planning Board indicate to Ithacare just what it expei
open spaces question. Will the so -far unspecified "trails"
be?
was contemplating what should be
the 28± acre parcel itself, or in the
a part. I would like to suggest that
its the applicant to do about this
be sufficient? If not, what would*
5. Although one Ithacare supporter has repeatedly insisted that the overlook is not an
"overlook ", it has been so identified on most of the Planning Board's and Ithacare's
documents. What it is called is not so important as what it provides to the New York •
taxpayers who paid for it. Of some particular concern is that the parking spaces on the
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overlook are actually part of the Ithacare parcel, not part of the "overlook" proper. What are
Ithacare's plans for these parking spaces or the entire overlook? In the FEIS, page 19, is
the statement that: "Ithacare's plans call for no changes to the.existing public use of the
overlook." Having "plans that calf for no changes" is not the same as "plans that provide
absolute assurance that there will be no changes" to the present uses of the overlook and
the parking spaces. I urge the Panning Baord to consider this.
6. It has always been an interesting feature of the proposed location of this building that is
is so close to the overlook. In an exchange of correspondence with Ithacare's Executive
Director, he wrote to me that the proposed building would not be visible from the north end
of the overlook. How could this be possible? Did the Executor Director expect me to believe
this statement, or was he just misinformed?
It seems unrealistic that a building over 50 feet tall and which was then over 500 feet long
'could not be seen from a distance.of about 280 feet. In fact the building would be so'visible
` that anyone at the overlook would be looking into numerous bedrooms. Is this a desirable
feature for elderly residents ?
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PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ITHACARE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN
FEBRUARY 6, 1996
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Madam Chair - Members of the Town of Ithaca Planning Beard :
My name is Joseph A. Cimmino. Thank you for allowing public
coaement in your consideration of the preliminary site plan for the
Ithacare Center Senior Living Community. Firstly, I would like to
commend the Board for having approved the Final Environmental
Impact Statement for the Ithacare facility in a lengthy, but
obviously fair and democratic process.
I now urge the Board to grant Ithacare a preliminary site
plan approval . While I personally support the original building
site plan, the alternative before you appears to be a reasonable
compromise, based on the SEUR, and should be accepted.
Since appearing before you last July, I have discussed the
Ithacare issue with many individuals that I interact with in the
larger Ithaca area. The great majority support the Ithacare
project, fully recognizing that it would have some impact on the
view shed , as would any building. A number expressed grave
concerns about the process, pointing out that the Ithacare Center
is a far more favorable use of the land than its original Master
Plan zoning as heavy industrial .
Unfortunately, the new Ithacare Center will now be too late
for my needs. My 91 year old mother-in-law is noir a resident of
the flak Hill Manor Nursing Horne. Following hospitalization over
the holidays, she could no longer meet the requirements of inde-
pendent living at the present Ithacare. The psychological impact
of another major change in her life style has led to serious
depression. Had we had the new Ithacare facility, she could have
simply been moved to another part of the same building . She would
have maintained the same familiarity with her surroundings, her
same friends, and the same caring and compassionate staff.
On behalf of the many friends that I have made at Ithacare,
and the many community minded residents and activists that I have
discussed this issue with, I urge you to move quickly forward.
In closing, I have a question. During the January 23rd
meeting , I heard figures indicating that the design Alterna-
tive 8.3 would present a higher building profile that the original
design. I do not understand how the building could grow taller by
being moved down hill . Could someone please clarify this issue
for mel
I again thank you for your time and your kind attention.
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