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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
JANUARY 23, 1996
FILED
TOWN OF ITHACA
Date
Clerk / 5'Ay
The
Town of
Ithaca
Planning Board met
in regular session on
Tuesday,
Ithaca,
January
New York
23, 1996,
at 7:30
in Town Hall, 126
p.m.
East Seneca Street,
PRESENT: Chairperson Candace Cornell, Vice - Chairperson Eva
Hoffmann, James Ainslie, Herbert Finch, Robert
Kenerson, Fred Wilcox, Gregory Bell, Jonathan Kanter
(Director of Planning), George Frantz (Assistant Town
Planner), John Barney (Town Attorney), Daniel Walker
(Town Engineer),
ALSO PRESENT: Bill Szabo, Jim Pu
David Marks, Allan
Yhamam ? ? ?, Shirley
Cimmino, Carl Guy,
Barbara Blanchard,
ng, Corinne Stern, Robert Stern,
Lentini, John Yntema, Elsie
Egan, Virginia Bryant, J.A.
Charles Brodhead, Anne Butler,
Noel Desch, Mark Macera.
Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann declared the meeting duly opened
at 7:38 p.m, and accepted, for the record, the Secretary's
Affidavit of Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public
Hearings in Town Hall and the Ithaca Journal on January 15, 1996,
and January 17, 1996, said Notice was served upon the applicants
and /or agents, as appropriate, on January 22, 1996 and January
23, 1996.
(NOTE: Due to the flooding on January 19, 1996, Notices for this
meeting were unable to be mailed to the adjoining neighbors.)
Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann read the Fire Exit Regulations to
those assembled, as required by the New York State Department of
State, Office of Fire Prevention and Control.
AGENDA ITEM: PERSONS TO BE HEARD
There
were
no
persons present
to be
heard. Vice - Chairperson
Hoffmann closed
this
segment of the
meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL
SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF TOWN OF
ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 72- 1- 1.178, 29,300 SQ, FT, IN AREA, INTO
TWO LOTS, ONE OF WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE CONSOLIDATED WITH THE
ADJACENT TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 72 -1- 1.177, OWNED BY DAVID
AND PAULINE MARKS, AND ONE OF WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE
CONSOLIDATED WITH TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO, 72- 1- 1.179, OWNED
BY ROBERT AND CORINNE STERN. THE PARCEL TO BE SUBDIVIDED IS
LOCATED AT 133 BURLEIGH DRIVE, RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -15. PAUL AND
CONNIE BATES, OWNERS; CORINNE STERN, AGENT.
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Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann declared the above -noted matter
duly opened and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as
posted and published and as noted above.
Corinne Stern of 135 Burleigh Drive addressed the Board and
stated that she and her husband own the property on one side of
the property to be subdivided, and that Mr. & Mrs. Marks own the
property on the other side of the property to be subdivided. Ms.
Stern stated that they would like to purchase and consolidate
half of the property at 133 Burleigh Drive to be consolidated
with her property, and the Marks would like to do the same thing
with the other half of the property to be consolidated as well.
Ms. Stern stated that they prefer the property remain wooded and
wild rather than be built on, so they have arranged to jointly
divide it. Ms. Stern stated that they are asking for the Board's
approval.
Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann stated that she had visited that
site earlier today and stated that she felt that was a nice area.
Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann asked if the Board had any comments or
questions at this time.
Town Attorney John Barney addressed the Board and stated
® that although it does not relate specifically to this project,
the Board needs to change the process slightly with respect to
the environmental findings and the holding of public hearings.
Attorney Barney suggested that, before the Board continues to
hold the Public Hearing, it make a determination of environmental
significance. Attorney Barney stated that under the law, as it
has been restructured, the Board is supposed to have a completed
application before commencing a Public Hearing, and under the
Town Law, the definition of a completed application is one in
which you have either made a determination of non - significance of
environmental issues, or have accepted for filing a draft
environmental impact statement. Attorney Barney stated that
technically, that determination is supposed to occur before you
even schedule a Public Hearing to consider the action. Attorney
Barney stated that the new law could mean that you have two
meetings for every matter that comes before this Board. Attorney
Barney stated that the procedure ought to be, now, if the Board
is going to make a negative determination of environmental
significance, make it before the Public Hearing is opened and
conducted. Attorney Barney stated that negative determination
could be filed with the Chairperson, and then conduct the
remainder of business for that project. Attorney Barney then
suggested that the Board make a determination regarding the SEQR
Resolution before moving on with this project or opening it to
the public.
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by James Ainslie:
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WHEREAS:
1. This action is the consideration of Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of Town of
Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 72- 1- 1.178, 29,300 +/- sq. ft, in
area, into two lots, one of which is proposed to be
consolidated with the adjacent Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.
72 -1- 1.177, owned by David and Pauline Marks, and one of
which is proposed to be consolidated with Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 72 -1- 1.179, owned by Robert and Corinne Stern.
The parcel to be subdivided is located at 133 Burleigh
Drive, Residence District R -15. Paul and Connie Bates,
Owners; Corinne Stern, Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board is legislatively determined to act as Lead
Agency in environmental review with respect to Subdivision
Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, on January 23, 1996, has reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form
Part I prepared by the applicant, a Part II prepared by the
Town Planning staff, a survey entitled "Survey Map, No. 133
Burleigh Drive, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York"
prepared by Lee Dresser, L.S. dated December 7, 1995, and
other application materials, and
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative
determination of environmental significance with respect to
the proposed subdivision;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a
negative determination of environmental significance in
accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality Review
Act for the above referenced action as proposed and, therefore,
an Environmental Impact Statement will not be required.
Board Member Gregory Bell stated that, procedurally, he had
a question about what Attorney Barney stated earlier. Mr. Bell
asked how could the Board consider a SEQR until the Members have
heard the applicants tell them what they want to do.
Attorney Barney stated that it could be done with the papers
presented and the Board could also ask the applicant questions
prior to the conduct of the formal Public Hearing as to what
additional information you would want prior to making the SEQR
O determination. Attorney Barney stated that he is puzzled by the
way the law was changed, it sounds to him as though two different
groups were working on the revision of the environmental
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regulations, Part 617 of the New York State Code of Regulations.
Attorney Barney stated that a different group, the Commission on
Local Resources, which is an adjunct group of the State
Legislature, revised the Town Law, among other Laws. Attorney
Barney stated that it was the combination of putting the two
together that created this type of interesting situation, because
one would want to hold the Public Hearing before making the SEQR
determination, to get the benefit of the input from the public as
to whether or not there is a significant environmental issue
involved. Attorney Barney stated that the way it is structured,
it is not the case. Attorney Barney stated that in a more
elaborate matter, such as Ithacare, the Board could elect to hold
two public hearings, one of the issue of whether there is
environmental impact, and then a second Public Hearing on the
actual merits of the proposal itself.
Board Member Robert Kenerson stated that the changes will
slow things down and make them more complicated.
Vice - Chairperson Eva Hoffmann stated that the biggest
problem that she has with this change is that the Board would not
have the benefit of comments from the public while trying to make
this determination.
• Attorney Barney stated that under the SEQR Regulations, as
additional information comes to the Board, you can go back and
revisit the SEQR determination. Attorney Barney stated that if
the Board makes a negative determination, and in the course of
the Public Hearing additional information comes forth that would
suggest that the Board may want to change that determination, you
could do that. Attorney Barney stated that before the Public
Hearing the Board should make the determination, negative or
positive.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Hoffmann, Finch, Ainslie, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Vice Chairperson Hoffmann declared the Public Hearing opened
and asked if anyone from the public wished to speak. No one
spoke. Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann asked if there were any
comments from the Board.
Board Member Fred Wilcox stated that he had spoke to one of
Is the neighbors to this project, the Hathways, and they are pleased
that this area will be staying wooded. Mr. Wilcox stated, for
the record, that one of the sellers of the property is involved
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in a possible transaction with the Town. Mr. Wilcox stated that
Paul Bates is principal of OB -GYN Associates and the Town has
that property under contract.
Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann asked if there was any further
discussion. There being none, Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann closed
the Public Hearing and asked if anyone were prepared to make a
motion to approve the subdivision resolution.
MOTION by Fred Wilcox, seconded by Gregory Bell:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the consideration of Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of Town of
Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 72 -1- 1.178, 29,300 +/- sq. ft. in
area, into two lots, one of which is proposed to be
consolidated with the adjacent Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.
72- 1- 1.177, owned by David and Pauline Marks, and one of
which is proposed to be consolidated with Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 72- 1- 1.179, owned by Robert and Corinne Stern.
The parcel to be subdivided is located at 133 Burleigh
Drive, Residence District R -15. Paul and Connie Bates,
eOwners; Corinne Stern, Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board, acting as lead agency in environmental
review with respect to Subdivision Approval, has, on January
23, 1996, made a negative determination of environmental
significance, after having reviewed and accepted as adequate
the Short Environmental Assessment Form part I, prepared by
the applicant, and a Part II prepared by the Town Planning
staff, and
3. The Planning Board, at a
1996, has reviewed and a
entitled "Survey Map, No
Ithaca, Tompkins County,
L.S. dated December 7, 1
materials.
Public Hearing held on January 23,
ccepted as adequate a survey
133 Burleigh Drive, Town of
New York" prepared by Lee Dresser,
995, and other application
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain
requirements for Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval,
as shown on the Preliminary and Final Subdivision Checklist,
having determined from the materials presented that such
waiver will result in neither a significant alteration of
® the purpose of subdivision control nor the policies
enunciated or implied by the Town Board, and
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2. That the Planning Board hereby grants
Subdivision Approval for the proposed
Preliminary
subdivision
and Final
of Town of
Ithaca
area,
consolidated
Tax Parcel
into two lots,
with
No,
the
72- 1- 1.178, 29,300
one of which is proposed
adjacent Town of
+/- sq,
to
Ithaca Tax
ft, in
be
Parcel No.
72- 1- 1.177,
which
owned
is proposed
by
to
David and Pauline Marks and
be consolidated with Town of
one of
Ithaca Tax
Parcel
subject
No. 72- 1- 1.179,
to the following
owned by Robert
conditions:
and Corinne
Stern,
a, the subdivided parcels be consolidated with the parcels
adjoining them on each side as proposed by the
applicant; and
b, within six months of this approval, conveyance of the
northerly portion of the parcel being subdivided to the
owners of Tax Parcel No. 72 -1- 1.179, and delivery to
the Town Planner of a copy of the recorded deed to such
owners and a copy of the communication from such owners
to the Tompkins County Division of Assessment
requesting consolidation of said northerly portion with
Tax Parcel No. 72 -1- 1.179; and
C, within six months of this approval, conveyance of the
southerly portion of the parcel being subdivided to the
owners of Tax Parcel No. 72- 1- 1.177, and delivery to
the Town Planner of a copy of the recorded deed to such
owners and a copy of the communication from such owners
to the Tompkins County Division of Assessment
requesting consolidation of said southerly portion with
Tax Parcel No. 72- 1- 1.177.
There being no further discussion, Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann
called for a vote.
Aye - Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Wilcox, Kenerson, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann declared
the matter
of
the 2 -lot
subdivision at 133 Burleigh Drive duly closed
at 7:54
p.m.
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AGENDA ITEM: CONSIDERATION OF A SKETCH PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED
CONVERSION OF BLDG. NO, 14 IN THE CORNELL UNIVERSITY PLEASANT
GROVE APARTMENTS COMPLEX INTO A SATELLITE MAINTENANCE FACILITY
PROPOSED TO CONSIST OF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, LUNCH /MEETING
ROOM, AND CARPENTER, ELECTRICAL, PAINT, LOCK, GLASS, AND PIPE
MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SHOPS, AND PARKING FOR UP TO 20 VEHICLES;
THE PROPOSED CONVERSION OF BLDG, NO, 12 INTO OFFICES AND STORAGE
FACILITY FOR HOUSEKEEPING STAFF; AND CONVERSION OF BLDG. NO. 1
AND BLDG. NO, 2 INTO TEMPORARY OFFICES FOR GRADUATE STUDENTS
DURING THE COURSE OF RENOVATIONS TO SIBLEY AND TJADEN HALLS. THE
SITE IS LOCATED ON TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCELS NO. 67 -1 -1.1 AND
67- 1 -3.21 MR - MULTIPLE RESIDENCE DISTRICT. CORNELL UNIVERSITY,
OWNER; SCOTT WHITHAM, AGENT.
Vice - Chairperson Hoffmann declared the above -noted matter
duly opened at 7:55 p.m. and read aloud from the Planning Board
agenda and noted above.
Scott Whitham, landscape architect, addressed the Board and
stated that from the Pleasant Grove Apartments, they were
requesting modifications for building numbers 1, 2, 12, and 14.
Mr. Whitham stated that there are basically two projects
contained in this sketch plan. Mr. Whitham stated that he had
® brought with him the Project Manager, Jim Pung; Shop
Superintendent, Bill Szabo; and from the Department of Space
Management and Planning, Alan Lentini. Mr. Whitham stated that
Sibley and Tjaden Halls are going to be renovated, and during the
course of those renovations, they are hoping to move graduate
planners and architects into Building Nos. 1 and 2. Mr. Whitham
stated that Building No. 14 would be a satellite maintenance
shop, and Building No. 12 would be for housekeeping.
Jim Pung, Architect at Planning and Design at Cornell
University, addressed the Board and stated that there are 12
buildings, and the students are heavily occupied, mainly
internally on the North Campus which includes the Pleasant Grove
Apartments, Mr. Pung explained where various sections of Cornell
University are located as he showed them on a drawing that was
presented to the Board. Mr. Pung stated that the thought was
that it would be good for the students to share some buildings
while the Sibley and Tjaden Halls are being renovated.. Mr. Pung
stated that they would offer them buildings close to the outside
edge of Pleasant Grove where the traffic would not infringe so
much on the interior buildings where the students live. Mr. Pung
stated that Buildings 1 and 2 selected are a mix of one bedroom
and two bedroom units. Mr. Pung stated that Cornell's plan, as
stated in the proposal is that housekeeping, which serves
Hasbrouck, Pleasant Grove, and a few others would be located in
• Building 12 and would also constitute storage for furniture and
items to make the students more comfortable. Mr. Pung stated
that Building 14 is intended for satellite shops for campus life
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maintenance, which does minor repairs such as fixing toilets,
sinks, and other small daily repair. The shop located in
Building 14 would not be for remodeling or large scale repairs.
Mr. Pung stated that the shop located here would be on an as
needed basis. Mr. Pung stated that in the long range plan
Cornell would maintain housekeeping and satellite shops in
Buildings 12 and 14 on the outside perimeter of the group of
buildings, so that temporarily Art and Architecture and Planning,
in Buildings 1 and 2 would be on the perimeter of this group of
buildings without penetrating into the student housing areas.
Mr. Pung stated that there is a hope that when Tjaden Hall
remodeling is completed, in case they are still in need of space,
they have offered Building 12 to them. Mr. Pung stated that this
is not mentioned in the information submitted for this meeting,
he mentions it only because it is possibility, not a condition.
Mr. Pung stated that the buildings would be used for the students
affected by the remodeling for a year and a half to possibly two
years, at which time it would revert back to graduate student
housing.
Alan Lentini, Director of Space Management and Planning,
addressed the Board and stated that the students that are
intended to occupy the two buildings, and possibly three would be
® comprised of approximately 30 PHD students, 30 Masters students
in City and Regional Planning, and 20 fifth year grad students in
architecture. Mr. Lentini stated that the functions that would
be involved in these buildings would be office functions; the
architects would have their drawing tables, and the PHD and
masters students in City and Regional Planning would probably
have computers and a telephone, and that would be about it. Mr.
Lentini stated that they would be displaced mostly from the third
floor of west Sibley and some of the basement area of Sibley
Hall,
Bill Szabo, shops supervisor, addressed the Board and stated
that the shops are currently in Clara Dixen Hall and are not part
of the large shops that Cornell has. Mr. Szabo stated that they
are, and have been, a small emergency maintenance team that takes
care of individual apartments and student dorms, small jobs. Mr.
Szabo stated that there are a few plumbers, carpenters, who do
small repairs. Mr. Szabo stated that they do not take any large
deliveries, and should there be a time that they needed to, they
would take delivery at the job site, not to Building 14,
Chairperson Candace Cornell arrived at the meeting and
expressed apologies to those assembled on her tardiness.
Chairperson Cornell stated that she was familiar with the Cornell
Project and was ready to continue.
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Assistant Town Planner George Frantz stated that there was
one change, which is the possibility that they may request
partial use of building 12 for graduate students offices due to
remodeling.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if Buildings 3 through 13 are
currently occupied.
Mr. Lentini stated that there is one tenant in building 1,
and that the rest are less than 50 percent occupied.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if buildings 1 and 2 were for
temporary use of grad students and would then revert back to
residential use. Ms. Hoffmann asked what would happen to
buildings 12 and 14.
Mr. Lentini stated that Building 12 would be permanent
placement for housekeeping. Mr. Lentini stated that building 14
would be for the satellite shops.
Board Member Robert Kenerson stated that he remembered from
older meetings that Pleasant Grove Apartments were going to be
torn down, and asked if that is what would be happening with them
® now. l
Mr. Lentini stated that the long range plan for this site is
beyond 10 years to look at heavier density, these are currently
single story buildings with 8 units per building, they would look
at a new layout to try to maximize the density. Mr. Lentini
stated that the long range campus plan shows undergraduate
housing.
Board Member Kenerson asked how long was temporary.
Mr. Lentini stated a maximum of two years.
Chairperson Cornell asked what the plans for this site was
for after the two year period.
Mr. Lentini stated that they would continue as graduate
student housing. Mr. Lentini stated that the long range plan is
to have new under graduate housing.
Board Member
James Ainslie
asked
if
Cornell
is expecting
more undergraduate
students
over
the
next
five to
ten years.
Mr. Lentini stated that they are trying to attract more
students into the community.
• Board Member Robert Kenerson asked if they had considered
parking needs.
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Mr. Whitham stated that the existing parking area will take
what is needed for the proposed facilities. Mr. Whitham stated
that although the plans are all conceptual, they estimate 25
vehicles.
Chairperson Cornell asked what activities would be taking
place in the satellite shops.
Mr. Szabo stated that there is one electrician, there would
be small repairs done on a bench, they may repair motors, the
carpenters may repair cabinets, counter tops, build small
cabinets, make signs, only small maintenance.
painting.
Chairperson Cornell stated that she was trying to determine
if the activities that would go on in the maintenance building
• would conflict with residential use, especially children.
Chairperson Cornell asked if there were provisions for trucks
coming in for supplies.
Mr. Szabo stated that there are no large trucks making
deliveries, everything is either pick up trucks or a small van.
Mr. Whitham
Chairperson Cornell
asked
if the repairs would involve
painting.
for the shop was
because
it had a separate
drive,
Mr. Szabo responded
that
there would be very little
painting,
if any, in the
shop.
Mr. Szabo stated that most of the
painting
that is needed
would
be done as on site maintenance
painting.
Chairperson Cornell stated that she was trying to determine
if the activities that would go on in the maintenance building
• would conflict with residential use, especially children.
Chairperson Cornell asked if there were provisions for trucks
coming in for supplies.
Mr. Szabo stated that there are no large trucks making
deliveries, everything is either pick up trucks or a small van.
Mr. Whitham
stated
that one reason for
choosing
Building 14
for the shop was
because
it had a separate
drive,
which could be
used as a service
drive,
and the main part
of the
residential use
would remain unaffected
stated
by the change in use.
Mr.
Whitham stated
that there
is a
substantial
landscaped distance buffer between
building 14
and
the residential
units.
Board
Member
Fred
Wilcox
stated that he
had a question
regarding
Map SP2
which
shows
a loading
zone
located in front of
a hydrant.
Mr. Wilcox
stated
that space
#24
needs to be
eliminated
because
it does
not
look like
the
road is wide enough
to sustain
traffic
and
that space.
Mr.
Wilcox
questioned the
placement
of a loading
zone in
from of a
fire
hydrant.
Mr. Whitham stated that in terms of actual measurements for
spaces there is enough width to the road to sustain the space as
indicated. Mr Whitham stated that this is only a sketch plan for
a conceptual scheme Whitham stated that the point of having
® the loading zone by the fire hydrant is well taken, and perhaps
the loading zone could be switched to the opposite end of the
building. Mr. Whitham stated that they will check into that.
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Jim Pung addressed the Board and stated that he believed
that from a planning standpoint, switching the location of the
loading zone is entirely possible.
Mr. Whitham stated that in terms of topography, the
alternate location works out better than the location shown on
the sketch plan because the land is fairly flat. Mr. Whitham
stated that Chairperson Cornell had referred to separation
between the residential areas and the shops, and that Cornell was
concerned about this as well. Mr. Whitham stated that there was
a large space between the residential units and Buildings 12 and
14.
Chairperson Cornell asked if there were security provisions
for those buildings on the weekends and evenings.
Mr. Szabo stated that the door would, of course, be locked,
and the only extra provision would be for the lock shop, which
would be more secure than the rest of the area. Mr. Szabo stated
that a cabinet for supplies would also be locked up.
Chairperson Cornell asked if there would be any type of
outdoor storage.
is Mr. Szabo responded, no.
Chairperson Cornell asked how they could guarantee that the
offices in Buildings 1 and 2 would be only temporary.
Attorney Barney stated that he thinks that issue would be
dealt with when the site plan modification comes before the
Board, by putting a time limit on that use.
Director of
Planning
Jonathan Kanter
stated that it appears
that use variances
will need
to be sought
for some,
or all, of
this proposal since
this is
in a Multiple
Residence
District.
Mr. Kanter stated
that the
temporary use as
student
offices could
be done on a time
limited
basis, and would
need use
variances as
well.
Chairperson Cornell stated that she personally feels that
this is a valuable area for residential use and should be kept as
such.
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Board Member Hoffmann stated that for that reason, she feels
that outside storage should be considered off limits in the
future. Ms. Hoffmann asked why Building 14 was scheduled to
serve Maplewood Apartments and all the other residential
facilities that are south, when those areas are closer to both
the Humphrey's Service Building and the Orchards area. Ms.
Hoffmann asked why they could not be served out of the areas
closer to them.
Mr. Pung responded that the people that do the work would be
near most of the people that would need the services. Mr. Pung
stated that the centroid of the 6800 students is in the north end
of the campus, and the trade people are dedicated to campus life.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the crews could be divided up
so that they were closer to the areas south with headquarters
closer to those areas.
Mr. Szabo
stated that
this
is
the
way it works, and it would
be a switch of
services one
way
or
the
other.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that in the documents, this is
presented as something that would help save space in the inner
campus, and also possibly take away some traffic from the inner
campus. Ms. Hoffmann stated that if the traffic is moving from
inner campus to other areas of the Town, it is a concern, and
maybe there would be increased traffic in residential areas of
the Town.
Chairperson Cornell stated that it would be increasing
traffic in the Forest Home area which is already overburdened,
and recognized as a problem situation.
Mr. Szabo stated that the only time the crew goes through
Forest Home is to go to the store. Mr. Szabo stated that
approximately 20 people report to work, which way they travel he
is unsure.
Chairperson Cornell stated that she was concerned about
truck traffic, and was also concerned about the dangerous
intersection of the driveway with Pleasant Grove Road,
Mr. Szabo responded that there are only pick up trucks and
vans, that there are no large trucks.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz asked Mr. Szabo where the
trucks and vans were parked at night.
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Mr. Szabo responded that they are parked at the Humphrey's
Service Building, one is a natural gas, clean air vehicle. Mr.
Szabo stated that those that drive work vehicles, park their
personal cars at Humphrey's,
Board Member Hoffmann stated that, although this
is
just a
sketch plan, it would be a good
idea for Cornell to
consider
the
impact on traffic in the Town.
Ms. Hoffmann stated
that
since
the cars are parked at Humphrey's,
maybe the plans could
be
switched around so that some of
the crews go out of
Humphrey's
instead
of the
proposed
location.
Mr.
Szabo
stated that
there are only four
Cornell vehicles,
and the
rest of
the workers
use personal vehicles.
Board Member Wilcox stated that he was in support of Ms.
Hoffmann's suggestion that any plan should not allow storage of
any materials outside of Building 14. Mr. Wilcox stated that
given the proximity to the gorge, he is worried that vandals
might kick items left outside into the gorge.
Chairperson Cornell stated that the proximity to the
children was of some concern as well.
Board Member Herbert Finch stated that he had read in a
letter from Mr. Pung, dated December 12, 1995, that there was
mention of a four -foot dividing wall to be put in, separating the
children's area from the work shops.
Mr. Pung responded, yes, in discussions with the planners,
it was determined that a fence would help buffer both buildings
12 and 14 from the playground. Mr. Pung stated that it would be
very easy to install a four -foot fence in front of the sidewalk
in the back of the building actually separating children from the
building, and would prohibit people from taking this route. Mr.
Pung stated that the plan, however, as far as the students
traffic is concerned, is to keep access in the center of the
complex.
Chairperson Cornell asked if the Board shared her feelings
that this area should remain residential.
Board
Member Gregory Bell
stated that immediately adjacent
to this project
Moore, and
that in its
the 8 year
is a historic farmhouse which was
asked if Cornell University planned on
historic state. Mr. Bell asked if this
plan would impact the farmhouse.
owned by Dr.
maintaining
project or
® Mr. Pung responded that the current plan is to renovate it
and use it for a faculty residence program, and to have it ready
by August of 1996.
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Assistant Town Planner Frantz suggested that a study be done
to show the use of each building, and a breakdown of maintenance
visits by Mr. Szabo's staff over the past couple of years. Mr.
Frantz stated that information would show the Board what
percentage of trips would essentially stay at north campus, what
percentage would go to west campus, Maplewood, etc. Mr. Frantz
stated that the Board would also need to know what type of fence
would be used, whether it is a simple chain -link fence, or would
it be better to have a solid board fence, which, especially with
children playing nearby, would possibly be more appropriate since
that type of fence can not be seen through or climbed over by
children. Mr. Frantz stated that a solid fence would not only
serve as a way to keep the children out, but also as a screen.
Chairperson Cornell reviewed the comments submitted by the
Conservation Board regarding their concerns about this project.
Chairperson Cornell then summarized those comments for those
assembled. (Copy of Conservation Board comments is attached
hereto as Exhibit #2
Chairperson Cornell stated that the Unique Natural Area
(UNA) is a concern to everyone, and asked how the applicants
would address grading of parking places.
® Mr. Whitham stated that in the next submittal would be
provided a detailed grading and site plan with dimensions to show
exactly how that slope works, how far it is from the UNA, where
drainage will flow, and turn around area. Mr. Whitham stated
that with preliminary plans, it seems to Cornell that there is
enough room for a turn around for that number of vehicles to fit
in that area safely.
Chairperson Cornell stated that she was at the site
yesterday and was surprised to see how narrow the driveway was
and how close to the slope it was located.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she had visited the site
today, and that there seemed to be a continuing problem with
parking there. Ms. Hoffmann stated that there were five cars
parked in the parking spaces, and seven cars parked along the
road.
Mr. Whitham addressed the Board and stated that it seems to
be quite a free - for -all around there and some organization for
those parking spaces is certainly in order.
Chairperson Cornell asked if there were any further comments
or questions regarding this project. There being none,
is Chairperson Cornell duly closed the sketch plan discussion for
the Pleasant Grove Apartments at 8:46 p.m.
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Chairperson Cornell stated that with regard to the Planning
Board Minutes, there is a backlog of minutes, the recording
secretary is back to work after a prolonged illness, and we hope
that the minutes will be caught up shortly. The Board received
as handout tonight two sets of minutes from November 7, 1995, and
November 21, 1995. Chairperson Cornell stated that the rest of
the minutes will be forth coming.
Town
Planner Kanter stated
that
the recording secretary will
be trying
to keep current with
the most
recent meeting minutes to
prevent falling
further behind.
Mr.
Kanter stated that for the
next meeting
we are hoping that
the
Board can approve the
November.7,
1995, November 21,
1995,
December 5, 1995, and
hopefully
the minutes from this
meeting,
at the February 6, 1996
Planning
Board Meeting,
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz stated that Ms. Hays
has also been having to deal with the many, many questions and
problems that piled up during her absence.
Chairperson Cornell stated that Ms. Hays has been seriously
ill, so we have to be patient. Chairperson Cornell stated that
she did not realize that there was a State Law that the minutes
• have to be drafted within 10 days of the meeting.
AGENDA ITEM: CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF STATEMENT OF FINDINGS
FOR THE PROPOSED ITHACARE CENTER SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY SITE
PLAN TO CONSIST OF A 115,000 + SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH 60 ADULT
CARE UNITS, 20 ASSISTED LIVING UNITS, AND 80 INDEPENDENT LIVING
UNITS, TO BE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF DANBY ROAD APPROXIMATELY
2,000 FEET SOUTH OF THE ENTRANCE TO ITHACA COLLEGE ON THAT 28 +
ACRE PORTION OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO, 39 -1 -1.3 DESIGNATED
AS SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT NO, 7. ITHACARE CENTER, APPLICANT;
MARK MACERA, AGENT, ALSO CONSIDERATION OF SETTING A PUBLIC
HEARING FOR FEBRUARY 6, 1996, TO CONSIDER PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN
APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED ITHACARE CENTER SENIOR LIVING
COMMUNITY.
Chairperson Cornell declared the above -noted matter duly
opened at 8:48 and read aloud from the Planning Board Agenda as
noted above.
Chairperson Cornell asked what the date was that the SLUD
would have to be reconsidered by the Town Board.
Director of
Planning Jonathan Kanter stated that the
date
referred to in the
Town Board resolution was
February 1, 1996,
to
revisit the SLUD.
Mr. Kanter stated that the
date was not
that
it need to go to
the Town Board on February 1st,
but that
if
® construction has
not substantially commenced
by February 1st,
then it should go
back to the Town Board for
evaluation.
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Chairperson Cornell stated, obviously, that construction by
that date is not possible.
Board Member Finch stated, having read the revised Statement
of Findings thoroughly, he was prepared to offer a motion to
approve them as presented at this meeting.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by Robert Kenerson:
WHEREAS, Ithacare Center has requested
from the Town of Ithaca Planning Board for
Site Plan Approval
the proposed Senior
Living Community to consist
with 60 adult care units,
independent living units,
Road approximately 2,000
College on that 28 +/- acre
of a 115,000
20 assisted living
to be located
feet south of
portion of
+/-
on
the
Town
square foot
units, and
the west side
entrance to Ithaca
of Ithaca Tax
building
80
of Danby
Parcel
No. 39 -1 -1.3 designated
as Special Land
Use
District No.
7, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca made a
positive declaration of Environmental Significance on December 9,
1994, directing Ithacare Center to prepare a Draft Environmental
Impact Statement (DEIS), and
® WHEREAS, Ithacare Center had a DEIS prepared which has
thoroughly examined possible adverse environmental impacts of the
proposed Senior Living Community and has proposed mitigating
measures to minimize such impacts, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board held a public hearing on July
18, 1995 in order to solicit public comment on the DEIS, and
received substantial public comment, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board and Ithacare Center agreed to
extend the date for filing of the FEIS in order to allow more
time to adequately prepare it, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board as Lead Agency, has responded in
the FEIS to all substantive public comments received, and on
December 19, 1995, accepted in substance the proposed responses
to comments received on the DEIS, and
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WHEREAS, the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board,
as Lead Agency,
with
the assistance of Town
Staff,
reviewed the
DEIS submitted on
May
31, 1995, and on June 20,
1995,
adopted a resolution
finding
the
DEIS to be satisfactory
with
respect to its
scope, content,
and
adequacy for the purpose
of public
review,
and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board held a public hearing on July
18, 1995 in order to solicit public comment on the DEIS, and
received substantial public comment, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board and Ithacare Center agreed to
extend the date for filing of the FEIS in order to allow more
time to adequately prepare it, and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board as Lead Agency, has responded in
the FEIS to all substantive public comments received, and on
December 19, 1995, accepted in substance the proposed responses
to comments received on the DEIS, and
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WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca, as Lead
Agency, on December 19, 1995, accepted the Final Environmental
Impact Statement for the Ithacare Center Senior Living Community
for filing, having duly considered the potential adverse
environmental impacts and proposed mitigating measures as
required under 6 NYCRR 617 (the SEQR regulation), and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town &E Ithaca has filed
a Notice of Completion of Final EIS, issued the FEIS as required
under 6 NYCRR 617.10 and 617.21, and distributed the FEIS to
involved and interested agencies and the public, and
NOW,
WHEREAS, in a letter
dated December 22, 1995, Ithacare
Center,
Inc., has agreed to extend the
timeframe for the
preparation
and adoption of a
Statement
of Findings for the
Ithacare
Center Senior Living
Community
project until January 23,
1996, or
thereabouts;
Senior Living
Community Site Plan,
NOW,
THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED,
that the Planning Board
of the Town of
Ithaca, as Lead
Agency,
on January 23, 1996, does
hereby adopt the
Statement of
Findings
for the Final
Environmental
Impact Statement
for the
proposed Ithacare Center
Senior Living
Community Site Plan,
Chairperson Cornell asked if there were any comments from
the Board regarding the Statement of Findings.
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that the wording was
changed on pages 4, 5, and 6, and asked that the wording be made
consistent.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that the reason for the
rewording was to make them more as findings instead of
conjectural statements.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she had a prepared
statement that she wished to read which explains why she will be
voting against the Statement of Findings. Ms. Hoffmann read as
follows:
"I strongly disagree with the finding in point IV.A.1.,
about visual impact that `construction of the Ithacare facility
will result in a moderate impact on views from South Hill.' In
my opinion the impact would be a significant one and an adverse
one. I would like to remind everyone that although we have seen
improvements in the design and layout of the proposed building
more recently, and those improvements have lessened the negative
impacts of the bulk and the height of it on the panoramic views
from South Hill, the height is still 6 feet higher than the 591
feet of the proposed structure that was presented with the
request to rezone the parcel and create the SLUD No. 7 in Dec.
1993. In the Full Environmental Assessment Form presented by
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Ithacare to the Planning Board and the Town Board at that time it
was stated in Appendix 4 that `The proposed project will have
little, if any, impact on the vista from 96B.' It continues,
`The top of construction for the proposed structure will be
approximately 5911,' and `The structure will be a foreground
element; allowing an unobstructed view to the valley, City, West
Hill, and the lake. "'
"I have weighed all the considerations in my own mind all
along, including the social and economic ones, as I am sure all
the Planning Board members have, and I am fully aware of them as
well as the environmental and other impacts."
"To me the significance of the view in question here is not
just environmental and aesthetic. This view which many have
described as the best one, or one of the best in Ithaca, also has
social and economic significance to me and I believe to the whole
community."
"Ithacare's facility could be located in a number of places
in the Town of Ithaca with great benefits to both its residents
and the community as a whole. The view is where it is and can
not be moved. To me the view is much more important than these
findings reflect."
"I have decided after long and careful consideration that I
can not vote for the adoption of these findings as they stand."
® Board Member Bell stated, for the record, that he made it
clear two meetings ago that he would be voting against the
adoption of the Statement of Findings as well, and that.he had
given a rather detailed statement of why.
There appearing to be no further discussion, the Chair
called for a vote.
Aye - Cornell, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox.
Nay - Hoffmann, Bell,
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
Chairperson Cornell stated that the next item of business
would be to set a Public Hearing date for Preliminary Site Plan
Approval for this project.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that staff had prepared a
proposed resolution to set a Public Hearing for Preliminary Site
Plan Approval. Mr. Kanter stated that since the Board now has
adopted the findings statement, the Board has designated
Alternative B3 as the approvable action, which is why staff has
prepared this resolution to set a Public Hearing to review the
Preliminary Site Plan for that Alternative. Mr. Kanter stated
O that Alternative B3 has not been given any official status as of
this time, other than through the EIS process.
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Chairperson Cornell stated that this would preceed the Town
Board's review of this project.
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Director of Planning Kanter responded, yes.
Chairperson Cornell asked if anyone were prepared to offer a
motion.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that for the Board's
discussion the Board should give Ithacare and staff direction as
to what exactly should be brought to that meeting so that
everyone is in agreement about what is expected and is going on
regarding this project.
MOTION by Fred Wilcox, seconded by Gregory Bell:
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorizes a Public Hearing to be scheduled at 7:35 p.m. on
February 6, 1996, at the Town of Ithaca Town Hall, 126 East
Seneca Street, Ithaca N.Y., to consider Preliminary Site Plan
Approval for the proposed Ithacare Center Senior Living
Community, to consist of a 115,000 +/- sq. ft. building with 60
adult care units, 20 assisted living units, and 80 independent
living units, to be located on the west side of Danby Road
approximately 2,000 feet south of the entrance to Ithaca College
on that 28 +/- acre portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39-
1-1.3 designated as Special Land Use District No. 7.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Cornell
called for a vote.
Aye - Cornell, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
Abstain - Hoffmann.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
The Board discussed items that they would like to see appear
at the meeting for Preliminary Site Plan. It was decided that
the Board would want to see lighting specifics, water and sewer
details adequately addressed, information regarding placement of
potential trails and the availability of those trails to the
public, landscaping, drainage plans, architectural details, and,
of course, footprint-and location of the building.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that staff would meet
with Ithacare representatives to discuss exactly what is to be
submitted and will have the materials prepared for presentation
to the Planning Board at the February 6, 1996 Meeting.
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Chairperson Cornell declared the matter of setting the
Ithacare Public Hearing for Preliminary Site Plan review of
Alternative B3 duly closed at 9:23 p.m.
OTHER BUSINESS
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that while she was at the
East Hill Plaza gas station, she saw a half a dozen vehicles use
the gas station as a short cut while exiting East Hill Plaza
itself. Ms. Hoffmann stated that one of the vehicles was a City
bus, which came out of the parking lot at East Hill Plaza, went
through the gas station, and came out on Ellis Hollow Road and
then turned toward the City.
Barbara Blanchard of the Operations Committee /Transit
Center, addressed the Board and stated that she would notify the
appropriate people about the City bus.
Chairperson Cornell asked what the Planning Board,could do
about this problem.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that the landscaping
and traffic improvements have not been completed to date.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that Cornell has come to
the Town with the request for a P &C Expansion approval, and that
approval could be conditioned upon completion of the landscaping
and improvements being completed.
Town Attorney Barney stated that a Town representative could
write a letter both to Bob Andree and to Cornell advising them of
this problem and seeing if there is some action that can be taken
to stop it. Attorney Barney stated that Mr. Andree may not even
be aware of this problem.
Director of Planning Kanter stated that he may call or visit
the site to try to notify Mr. Andree that way.
There being no further business, Chairperson Cornell closed
this segment of the meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT
Upon MOTION, Chairperson Cornell declared the January 23,
1996, Meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board duly adjourned
at 9:28 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
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Starr Hays, Recor ing Secretary,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board,
Mary BWnt,rdministrative Secretary.