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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
SEPTEMBER 5, 1995
FILED
TOWN OF ITHACA
Date
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday, September 5, 1995, in Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street,
Ithaca, New York, at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairperson Stephen Smith, Eva Hoffmann, James Ainslie,
Herbert Finch, Robert Kenerson, Fred Wilcox, Gregory
Bell, Jonathan Kanter (Town Planner), Daniel Walker (Town
Engineer) , George Frantz (Assistant Town Planner) , JoAnn
Cornish (Planner), John Barney (Town Attorney).
ALSO PRESENT: Ryan Wilcox, Ron Scarofile, Ron & Bonnie Simpson,
Bob Chiang, Scott Whitham,
Chairperson Smith declared the meeting duly opened at 7:30
p.m. and accepted, for the record, the Secretary's Affidavit of
Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public Hearings in Town
Hall and the Ithaca Journal on August 28, 1995, and August 30,
1995, together with the Secretary's Affidavit of Service by Mail of
said Notice upon the Clerks of the City of Ithaca and the Town of
Ithaca, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Planning, upon the
Tompkins County Commissioner of Public Works, and upon the
applicants and /or agents, as appropriate, on August 31, 1995,
Chairperson Smith read the Fire Exit Regulations to those
assembled, as required by the New York State Department of State,
Office of Fire Prevention and Control.
AGENDA ITEM: PERSONS TO BE HEARD.
There were no persons present to be heard. Chairperson Smith
closed this segment of the meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL
SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF TOWN OF ITHACA
TAX PARCEL NO. 39 -1 -12.1, LOCATED AT 1048 DANBY ROAD, FOR THE
PURPOSE OF CONSOLIDATION WITH TAX PARCEL NO, 39 -1 -12.2, LOCATED AT
1046 DANBY ROAD, RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -9. JANETTE MCCORD AND RON
SCAROFILE, OWNERS /APPLICANTS.
Chairperson Smith declared the above -noted matter duly opened
and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and
published and as noted above.
Ron Scarofile
and a small parcel
of
1046 Danby
Road, addressed
the Board
and
stated that the
lot
was
originally
one lot and was
subdivided
into
an "L" shaped parcel
and a small parcel
with
the idea of putting
a
residence on the back part of
the lot.
Mr.
Scarofile stated
that
putting the home on
that part
of the lot
was
not allowed because
one of the neighbors
felt that
it would
block
his view of the
lake.
Mr. Scarofile stated
that he
wanted to
even
out the lots to
make
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them even.
Chairperson Smith noted that this was a Public Hearing and
asked if anyone from the public wished to speak. No one spoke.
Chairperson Smith closed the Public Hearing and brought the matter
back to the Board for discussion.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that the only thing that
becomes non - conforming about Parcel No. 39 -1 -12.1 appears to be
that the R -9 District requirement for lot width at the front yard
setback line is 75 feet and this lot, starting at the street line
and then going back to the house has approximately a 60 -foot width.
Mr. Kanter stated that it is an oddity because when the lot was
originally subdivided, the R -9 District did not have the 75 -foot
width at set back requirement. Now that it does, the lot should
conform to R -9 requirements.
Board Member Robert Kenerson asked how that would be done.
Mr.
Kanter
responded
that it would have to receive a variance
from the
Zoning
Board of
Appeals.
Barney stated
Board Member Fred Wilcox stated that there is 60 feet now, and
• if the subdivision was approved, there would still be 60 feet
there.
Town Planner Kanter
existing non - conforming
resubdivision by chang
technically creating two
with the requirements,
stated that it is currently a legal pre -
lot, but the Board would be creating a
ing part of the lot line, which is
new lots, one of which does not conform
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz asked Mr. Scarofile if he
had talked with Andrew Frost, the Town's Zoning Officer,
Mr. Scarofile stated that he had spoken with Mr. Frost, and
that Mr. Frost had stated that the Zoning Board did not feel that
a variance was necessary.
Town Planner Kanter stated that he did not think that the
Zoning Board had discussed this matter, that may be Mr. Frost's
interpretation only.
Attorney
would need the
Barney stated that he thought that Mr.
variance because the law says to alter or
Scarofile
enlarge a
non - conforming
use a special
approval
would be necessary.
Attorney
Barney stated
that in this
case you
ar altering what
is a non-
conforming lot
by making it
even smaller
than it currently is.
• Mr. Scarofile stated that there was a variance with the
original subdivision.
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Board Member Kenerson stated that the Board was talking about
the setback requirements.
Town Planner Kanter stated that he did not think that a
variance was received for the setback requirement, because the lot
conformed since the dimension requirement did not exist at the time
this was originally subdivided.
Attorney Barney stated
is of a mind to grant t
resolution has a condition
other approval, be received
that he thinks that the Planning Board
he subdivision approval because the
that states that a variance, or any
prior to the signing of the plat.
Board Member Gregory Bell asked why there is such a large
parking area at the house.
Mr. Scarofile stated that there was, at one time, a day care
center in the house run by his wife.
Board Member Bell stated that since it is residential use now,
the Board should ask for the parking area to be reduced.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that the proposal before
• the Board tonight is a subdivision approval of two parcels and that
it is not a site plan approval.
There appearing to be no further discussion, Chairperson Smith
asked if anyone were prepared to offer a motion.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by Robert Kenerson:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of Town of
Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 -12.1, located at 1048 Danby Road,
for purpose of consolidation with Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 -12.2,
located at 1046 Danby Road, Residence District R -9, Janette
McCord and Ronald Scarofile, Owners /Applicants, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board is legislatively determined to act as Lead
Agency in environmental review with respect to Subdivision
Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, at
has reviewed and acce�
Assessment Form Part I
II prepared by the Town
• "Map of Survey Parcel
Ronald Scarofile, Town
a Public Hearing on September 5, 1995,
ited as adequate a Short Environmental
submitted by the applicant and a Part
Planning Department, a survey entitled
s of Land Owned by Janette McCord &
of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York"
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prepared by Robert S. Russler, Jr., L.S. dated April 26, 1994
and revised July 11, 1995, and other application materials,
and
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative
determination of environmental significance with respect to
the proposed subdivision;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative
determination of environmental significance in accordance with the
New York State Environmental Quality Review Act for the above
referenced action as proposed and, therefore, an Environmental
Impact Statement will not be required.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by James Ainslie:
• WHEREAS:
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval for the proposed
subdivision of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 -12.1, located at 1048 Danby Road, for
purpose of consolidation with Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 -12.2, located at 1046 Danby Road, Residence
District
R -9. Janette McCord and Ronald Scarofile, Owners /Applicants, and
2. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on September 5, 1995, has reviewed and accepted
as adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the applicant, a Part
II prepared by the Town Planning staff, a survey entitled "Map of Survey Parcels of Land Owned
by Janette McCord & Ronald Scarofile, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York" prepared
by Robert S. Russler, Jr., L.S. dated April 26, 1994 and revised July 11, 1995, and other
application materials, and
3. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as lead agency
in environmental review with respect to Subdivision Approval, has, on September 5, 1995, made
a negative determination of environmental significance.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements for Preliminary and
Final Subdivision Approval, as shown on the Preliminary and Final Subdivision Checklist, having
determined from the materials presented that such waiver will result in neither a significant
• alteration of the purpose of subdivision control nor the policies enunciated or implied by the Town
Board, and
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2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final Approval for the proposed
subdivision of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 -12.1, located at 1048 Danby Road, for
purpose of consolidation with Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 -12.2, located at 1046 Danby Road, as shown
on the survey entitled "Map of Survey Parcels of Land Owned by Janette McCord & Ronald
Scarofile, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York" prepared by Robert S. Russler, Jr., L.S.
dated April 26, 1994 and revised July 11, 1995, and other, application materials, conditioned upon
the following:
a. submission of the original
or mylar copy,
and four (4)
copies
of the plat to be signed by
the Planning Board Chair
prior to filing in
the County
Clerk's
Office;
b. the consolidation by deed of the +/ -.182 acre parcel with Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.
39 -1 -12.2;
C. the grant of any required variance or other approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals prior
to the signing of the plat by the Chairman of the Planning Board.;
Attorney Barney suggested that condition 2b. be amended to read as follows:
2b. "the consolidation by deed of the +/ -.182 acre parcel with Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No.
39 -1 -12.2 within six months of the signing of the plat by the Chairman of the Planning
• Board;"
Attorney Barney suggested that a new condition 2d. be added as follows:
2d. "any transfer of
1046
Danby
Road to be subject to an easement for the benefit of 1048
Danby Road to
maintain
the existing sewer line serving 1048 Danby Road from the
existing line on
1046
Danby
Road; and any transfer of 1048 Danby Road to include an
easement across
1046
Danby
Road to maintain the sewer lines serving 1048 Danby Road
and connecting to the
line on
1046 Danby Road."
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Smith called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Smith declared the matter of Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval for 1048
Danby Road duly closed at 7:49 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD
OF APPEALS WITH RESPECT TO A REQUEST FOR SPECIAL APPROVAL PER ARTICLE XIII,
SECTION 70 OF THE TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED
EXTRACTION AND DEPOSIT OF +15,250 CUBIC YARDS OF FILL MATERIAL BY CORNELL
• UNIVERSITY ON PORTIONS OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NOS. 64 -1 -1 AND 64 -1 -2, FOR
THE PRECINCT 7 SOILS STABILIZATION AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROJECT,
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LOCATED OFF NYS ROUTE 366 AND GAME FARM ROAD, RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -30.
CORNELL UNIVERSITY, OWNER/APPLICANT; SCOTT WHITHAM, AGENT.
Chairperson Smith declared the above -noted matter duly opened at 7:50 p.m. and read aloud from
the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted above.
Planner JoAnn Cornish explained the location of the project under discussion tonight to those
assembled.
Scott Whitham, Project Manager at Cornell University, addressed the Board and stated that Cornell
is doing considerably less work than originally proposed for this project. Mr. Whitham stated that Pond
12 was not actually a pond, but a grassed compression area which used to contain storm water runoff, the
grass would be mowed and maintained. Mr. Whitham stated that the intent is to make that area larger to
contain more stormwater.
Board Member Eva
Hoffmann stated that she
remembered
that the compression
area was originally
created to serve as a safety
runoff area in case there
was a spill
or something.
Mr. Whitham stated that was correct, and that there was still a gate there which could be closed
in case of a spill, and contained. Mr. Whitham stated that it still serves the same purpose.
• Board Member Hoffmann asked what the reason was for deepening the compression.
Mr.
Whitham
stated that
in terms of a general look at stormwater in Precinct 7, it was felt that
there should
be more
capacity in
that area.
Bob Chiang, Civil Engineer for Cornell University, addressed the Board and stated as a result of
development that has gone on in the area and to prepare for possible future expansion of a parking lot in
that area, the runoff is greater from the impervious roofs and parking lots than what was originally there.
Mr. Chiang stated that this stormwater retention will return all of that to its original condition.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if the retention area was planned to have water in it.
Mr. Whitham stated that what is labeled as Pond 12 in the drawing would be a dry area that would
be mowed and maintained.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if it would be more appropriate to call it something other than
a pond.
Mr. Whitham stated, as this project has changed he has been using the word pond for a number
of different possibilities, but it should be renamed.
Town Engineer Daniel Walker suggested calling it a detention area.
It was agreed by the Board and Mr. Whitham that the area would be renamed as a detention area,
• and that the plans would be revised to reflect said change.
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Mr. Whitham stated that an additional part of the project, which is called FRDS (Former Refuse
Dump Site). Mr. Whitham stated that this location was the Cornell dump for years and closed in 1972.
Mr. Whitham stated that the grade is quite steep and just to the north of the recreation trail. Mr. Whitham
stated that there has been fill on top of the FRDS site for a number of years and the proposal is to take
the excess fill that is on the FRDS site and push it over to lessen the steepness of the slope. Mr. Whitham
stated that they intend to lessen the slope, stabilizing the slope, vegetating with natural material for the
area. Mr. Whitham stated that to the east of the FRDS area, there is an additional small wet area, which
is being called Pond 8 although it is another inundation area because there is rarely standing water there.
Mr. Whitham stated that the toe is going to have to go out and the slope is going to have to go out to
cover FRDS and make that slope less. Cornell wishes to open up that area for stormwater capacity, and
stabilize currently the berm along the recreation ways and do some plantings.
Mr. Whitham stated that he was advised today that the Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting that this
project has to go to has been changed from September 13, 1995 to September 27, 1995, which gives
Cornell a very tight window to get this project completed this fall.
Chairperson Smith noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if anyone from the public
wished to speak. No one spoke. Chairperson closed the Public Hearing and brought the matter back to
the Board for discussion.
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that she thought that there would be a report from the
Environmental Review Committee (ERC) a this meeting regarding this project.
Planner JoAnn Cornish stated that she had reviewed the resolution with Mary Russell, Chair of
the ERC, and that Ms. Russell felt that the way the resolution was worded, that it reflected what the ERC
concerns were, and was comfortable with the drafted resolution.
Board Member Fred Wilcox asked if that could be taken as an explicit agreement with what is
being done with this project.
Planner Cornish stated that could be taken to mean that the ERC was in agreement with the
resolution with its conditions, and felt that they adequately addressed the concerns they may have had.
Board Member Gregory Bell asked what the trees were that were on the surface, and stated that
he had seen 6 feet of soil to be placed there.
Mr. Whitham
stated that there
would be
two feet
of soil,
and
that
there are
some existing sumacs,
which are not all that
valuable, but are big and
already
grown,
and
they
chose
to
save the trees.
Mr. Bell stated that the proposal is for two feet of dirt to be put on them.
Mr.
Chiang
stated that there
is a comment on the drawings that states there is a six inch maximum
soil buildup
within
the drip line of
the trees.
Mr. Whitham stated that the trees were boxed out to protect them, the dirt will gradually taper
. from two feet to six inches to save the trees.
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Board Member Hoffmann asked Mr. Whitham what the existing pond, which is mentioned as Pond
13 was for.
Mr. Whitham stated that Pond 13 is an existing pond. Mr. Whitham stated that Cornell will be
putting an outlet pipe and construct a weir just to strengthen and stabilize the edge of that pond.
Board Member Hoffmann asked what a weir is.
Mr. Chiang stated that its function is for stormwater detention. Mr. Chiang stated that as
stormwater
comes
into the pond
it will build up until it reaches
the level of an overflow, which is set
lower than
the rim
of the berm,
and it will then be able to flow
out at a controlled rate.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that there was a area marked Pond 7 which does not look like
a pond any more and asked what has happened to that area.
Mr. Chiang stated that as Cornell retained a consultant to do a hydrological analysis of the area
and as they went through their investigations, it was determined that Pond #7 was not needed and so it
was dropped from the project. Mr. Chiang stated that it may show up on some of the older drawings.
Board Member Hoffmann asked if Pond 8 would be sufficient.
Mr. Chiang stated that he felt that pond 8 would be sufficient and that they had submitted
hydrologic reports to Mr. Walker which shows that it would be sufficient.
Town Engineer Walker stated that he felt that Pond 8 would be sufficient without any further
development. Mr. Walker stated that as Cornell builds buildings they will need additional stormwater
management.
Board Member Herbert Finch stated that this continues what was approved when the SLUD was
set up.
Town Planner Kanter stated that process -wise, this is the first fill permit that has come to the
Planning Board. Mr. Kanter stated that at this level of fill, it requires a recommendation from the
Planning Board, and the Zoning Board of Appeals is the approval board giving Special Approval, which
is the way this process is set up. Mr. Kanter stated that this is all done at the recommendation of the
Town Engineer, and is largely a technical review in terms of the drainage and grading aspect.
Board Member Bell asked what the number of cubic feet or yards of material will be moved. Mr.
Bell stated that within the information distributed to the Board Members, one document says 10,000, one
says 15,200, and one says 20,000 cubic yards.
Town Engineer Walker stated that discrepancy was noted by staff as well. The plan as presented
represent the impacts on the land use in the are quite well and is consistent with the SLUD. Normally,
Mr. Walker stated, he would have asked for more detail at this point, but they have changed the amount
of work several times, and the critical approving Board is the Zoning Board of Appeals. Mr. Walker
stated that what is shown on the drawings is consistent with the Draft Environmental Impact Statement
that was prepared for Precinct 7, and does not create or preclude any mayor planning issues. Mr. Walker
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stated that he feels very comfortable in recommending that the Planning Board recommend this to the
Zoning Board of Appeals.
Planner
Cornish
stated that there is a
condition on
the resolution which asks
them
to clarify the
amount as they
continue
on with the project
because there
is some question as to the
exact
amount.
Board Member Bell stated that Cornell should be able to give the Board a number so that they
know what exactly they are approving or recommending.
Town Engineer Walker stated that the Local Law that created the ordinance basically says
anything over 2,500 cubic yards needs to come before this Board for a recommendation to the Zoning
Board of Appeals before a special approval can be granted by the Zoning Board of Appeals. Mr. Walker
stated that in this particular case, he is comfortable that there is plenty of material and plenty of spoil areas
on this site, which is quite large, which is the primary reason for looking at the quantities. Mr. Walker
stated that he is very comfortable at this time with the level of detail we have assuming that the Town
would receive the final quantities so that the construction process works better, after the special approval
is granted.
Town Planner Kanter stated that the EAF would have to be accepted by the Zoning Board, as the
Lead Agency, when they get it. Mr. Kanter stated that staff could get a more specific number into that
when it is given to the Zoning Board for their review.
• Board Member Hoffmann stated that she thought that it was too vague to have it read "in excess
of 10,000" with no upper limit.
Attorney Barney asked Mr. Whitham what the number of cubic yards of material would be.
Mr. Whitham stated that it would be in excess of 10,000 but less than 20,000.
Planner Cornish stated that it would have to be less than the 15,250 cubic yards that was originally
proposed, because they are doing less work than what was originally proposed.
Mr. Whitham stated that they could ask for 15,000.
Attorney Barney stated that the resolution should read not to exceed 15,000 cubic yards of
material, which was agreed to by Mr. Whitham and the members of the Planning Board.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that on the Short Environmental Assessment Form, Question 10
should be changed to include "Park/Forest/Open Space" as a type of land use in the vicinity because of
the trail.
The Board concurred with Ms. Hoffmann's statement.
Board Member Bell stated that in Part II of the Short Environmental Assessment Form, which was
prepared by staff, Paragraph C2 says, "The proposed fill of approximately two feet to cover exposed
• refuse, in conjunction with the re- vegetating of a currently eroding slope, may be beneficial to the site."
Mr. Bell stated that the Board should know if it is going to be beneficial to the site or is not going to be
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beneficial to the site.
Planner Cornish stated that she did not want to say conclusively that this was going to be
beneficial, although she assumes it will be beneficial, if there are torrential rains at the time they are doing
the work, then that would not be beneficial. Ms. Cornish stated that she did not feel comfortable saying
conclusively that it was beneficial, but it is at the discretion of the Board.
Board Member Bell stated that the wording could be changed so that it did not seem like a
question, but a statement.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that it has been the practice of staff not to use definitive
words in doing an environmental assessment, because there is a wide range of variables in the environment
that could effect any project. Mr. Frantz stated that this is the Board's environmental assessment and if
the Board wants to revise it, it is their prerogative.
The Board agreed to change Paragraph C2 to read, "The proposed fill of approximately two feet
to cover exposed refuse, in conjunction with the re- vegetating of a currently eroding slope, is intended to
be beneficial to the site."
Board Member Hoffmann asked how much of the fill was intended to be top soil.
Mr. Whitham stated that it is pretty clean soil. Mr. Whitham stated that it not prime grade garden
soil, it is good clean construction soil.
Town
Engineer Walker stated
that it is good mineral
soil, which with the proper fertilization and
mulching will
be a good medium for
growth
of grasses and
other vegetation.
Ms. Hoffmann stated that her concern is whether it is sufficient to establish some vegetation on
it.
Town Engineer Walker stated that with the proper fertilization and mulching will be a good
medium for growth of grasses and other vegetation.
Board Member Wilcox asked what the Department of Army permit was for.
Mr. Whitham responded that was a wetland permit because it is not a high grade wetland
according the their standards.
Town Planner Kanter stated that since the wetland area will be dug out and cleaned out to some
degree, where are the spoils from that going to go.
Mr. Whitham stated that the spoils were going to be used for the embankment which needs to be
built up and stabilized.
Town Planner Kanter asked if that had been checked for any possible contaminates that may have
• gotten into that pond /wetland area.
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Mr. Chiang stated that Bob Bland, from Cornell's environmental group, had monitored the water
that flows into that area and there were no chemicals found, including runoff from the Former Refuse
Dump Site.
There appearing to be no further discussion Chairperson Smith asked if anyone were prepared to
offer a motion.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by James Ainslie:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the Consideration of a Recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals with
respect to a request for Special Approval for the proposed extraction and deposit of not more
than 15,000 cubic yards of fill material by Cornell University on portions of Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No's. 64 -1 -1 and 64 -1 -2, for the Precinct 7 Soils Stabilization and Stormwater Management
project. Project area is located off NYS Route 366 and Game Farm Road, Residence District R-
30. Cornell University, Owner /Applicant; Scott Whitham, Agent, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals will act as
Lead Agency in environmental review, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing on September 5, 1995, has reviewed and accepted as
adequate a Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I submitted by the applicant and a Part
II prepared by the Town Planning Department, a site map entitled "Site Map - Former Refuse
Disposal Site Additional Cover" dated 28 May 1995, and revised 29 August 1995, Drawing No.
D -3416, prepared by Cornell University Planning, Design and Construction, and other application
materials.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Planning Board, in making recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals, determines
the following:
a. there is a need for the proposed use in the proposed location, as
demonstrated by the applicant;
b. the existing and probable future character of the neighborhood will not
be adversely affected as a result of the proposed project;
C. the specific proposed change in land use as a result of the proposed
project is in accordance with a comprehensive plan of development for
the Town of Ithaca.
2. That the Planning Board reports to the Zoning Board of Appeals its recommendation that the
aforementioned request for Special Approval be approved, subject to the following conditions:
• a. That the maintenance of Pond No. 8 be addressed and monitored on a regular basis to
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maintain its adequacy as a sediment trap and to avoid spillage of sediment into Cascadilla
Creek, all to the reasonable satisfaction of the Town Engineer.
b. That sediment and erosion control methods, approved by the Town Engineer, be practiced
throughout the construction phase of the proposed project and that permanent vegetation
be established in accordance with the proposed plans.
C. Submission of
an original or mylar
copy
of the final site
map to
be retained by the Town
of Ithaca, with
the addition
of the
latest
date of revision
on the
site map.
d. Applicant shall provide construction /phasing schedule, showing quantities and types of
materials for each phase, to the Town Engineer for review and approval prior to granting
of Special Approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals. .
Board Member Hoffmann she would like to change the first Whereas statement in the proposed
resolution to read that Cornell "...deposit not more than 15,000 cubic yards... ", Ms. Hoffmann stated that
there was a revision date missing on the resolution as well.
Planner Cornish stated that they had revised the drawings and had not provided a revision date
on those drawings. Ms Cornish stated that the date will be provided, and be listed in the adopted
resolution.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM: CONSIDERATION OF A SKETCH PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED
SUBDIVISION OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 66- 3 -3.25 4.5+ ACRES IN SIZE, INTO
TWO LOTS, 0.36+ ACRES AND 4.14+ ACRES IN SIZE RESPECTIVELY, LOCATED AT 130 CREST
LANE, RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -15. ERICKSON, LOUCKS, KOPLINKA -LOEHR PARTNERSHIP,
OWNER/APPLICANT; EUGENE ERICKSON, AGENT.
Chairperson Smith declared the above -noted matter duly opened at 8:28 p.m.
Eugene Erickson
addressed the Board and stated that the purpose of the
proposal is to divide the
property and to associate
one parcel with the house and make that a reasonable
house lot.
Mr. Erickson
stated that they intended
to eventually gift the remaining land to the Cornell Plantations.
Mr. Erickson
stated that Cornell Plantations already owns the land adjacent to this property,
and they have expressed
a great deal of interest in
having it available for educational purposes because it
has one of
the best fields
of goldenrods available within walking distance to campus. .
• Board Member Kenerson asked if the property was steep sloped.
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Mr. Erickson stated that the property is essentially flat above the goldenrod field, once you come
down from there toward the Cornell University property there is a very very deep drop off.
Board Member Kenerson stated that there was only 45 feet for access on Crest Lane.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that there was actually 65 feet of road frontage on Crest
Lane,
because the Crest
Lane
right -of -way comes to the
corner
of the Loucks' property, jogs 20
feet
south,
and then east 45
feet.
Mr. Frantz stated
that they
do not
have the required 100 feet front
yard
setback, so there may be the need for a variance from that aspect.
Attorney Barney stated that the minimum width at the street line is 45 feet, so it would need a
variance.
Chairperson Smith asked what the slope of the driveway was.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that the driveway is level.
Board Member Wilcox asked what the square footage of the smaller subdivided parcel would be,
the parcel with the house on it.
Board Member Kenerson stated that it complies with the R -15 District requirements.
Board Member Wilcox asked if Lot #14 was landlocked, and also the lot to its left.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that Lot # 14 is landlocked, and was approved by the Town
of Ithaca and granted a variance for that property.
Attorney Barney stated that it has a right of way to get out of the property.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that Lot #14 has an easement across the existing Hertel
driveway.
Board
Member Wilcox
stated that on the
sketch
plan
there was
indications of a 20 -foot right of
way at the top
of Lot #14, and
a 30 -foot right of
way at
the
bottom of
Lot #14.
Town
Engineer Walker stated
that the
20 -foot easement was for access from the Hertel house back
to the shed on
the left parcel, but the
shed is
gone now.
Chairperson Smith asked if the parcel that the shed was located on was to be retained when the
parcel is sold.
Board Member Kenerson asked if that parcel was landlocked as well.
Mr. Erickson stated that the shed is not longer there.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that the drawing that the Board is using is an old subdivision
plat to make the process easier for Mr. Erickson.
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Attorney Barney stated Koplinka -Loehr owns lot #14, but that he was not sure if they purchased
the lot with the shed as well.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that the Koplinka -Loehr parcel, Lot #14, is completely
landlocked, with a 30 -foot wide right of way to Crest Lane. Mr. Frantz stated that the Planning Board
approved the subdivision on 6/20/85, and the Zoning Board of Appeals granted a Special Approval in July
1985.
Chairperson
Smith stated that the real
question is does
any member of the Board have a problem
with a pan - handle
lot. Chairperson Smith
asked if there
would be restrictions to prevent further
subdivisions on the
remaining Hertel land once transferred to
Cornell.
Mr. Erickson stated that Cornell would be willing to do that, and as far as he was concerned, he
would like to preserve that as open space.
Mr.
Frantz
stated that he would
recommend that the
remaining Hertel land be consolidated with
the Cornell
owned
lot that is adjacent to
the property under
discussion.
Chairperson
Smith
stated that
the
Board may want
to place
heavier restrictions on this property
than there is on the
Cornell
property,
and
Cornell may not
want to
accept the Town's restrictions.
• Attorney Barney stated that the Board could put restrictions on this piece of land and if it is
consolidated for tax purposes, all it would mean is that this portion of land is covered by the restrictions
implied.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that another thing for the Board to keep in mind is that on
the aerial photograph, being consolidated with the Cornell parcel that is adjacent to the Hertel property,
which is worse than landlocked because it has no access because it is on the north side of Fall Creek. Mr.
Frantz stated that, right now as Crest Lane exists, the only combination for the Town's snowplows to turn
around is the driveway of the Loucks', which they have graciously allowed the Town to use for many
years. Mr. Frantz stated that he had visited the site with Mr. Noteboom, the Town Highway
Superintendent, and he would like the Town to request an easement extending 50 feet from the corner of
the Loucks' property into the Hertel property and 45 feet east to the proposed lot line, so that the Town
would be able to at some point in the future construct a hammer head cul -de -sac that would allow the
snowplows an official turnaround location on Crest Lane.
Town Engineer Walker stated that he does not think an easement is the right way to go, but that
fee - simple title to the Town would be the better alternative. Mr. Walker stated that he and Mr. Noteboom
should take a look at the layout for a possible cul -de -sac in a little more detail, then make a
recommendation to the Board as far as the width of the right of way that is needed there. Mr. Walker
stated that it may be beneficial for the Town to take an easement to the end of the flag and make a cul -de-
sac at the end so that both lots have legal frontage, but Mr. Noteboom may not .want to maintain that
much more road. Mr. Walker stated that would solve two problems, the landlocked parcel and the
frontage problem.
• Mr. Erickson asked if the easement would need to be 60 feet wide.
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Mr. Walker stated that normally the Town requires 60 feet, but he would have to look at the site
to determine the need.
Mr. Erickson stated that one of the problems with additional width on that is that the Plantations
needs access to that hillside in order to keep it from growing up into trees, and in order for them to have
that access they can not go on other peoples property.
Board Member Ainslie asked if the Town's snowplow stops at the Loucks' driveway, how does
the now get cleaned out the rest of the way on Crest Lane.
Mr. Walker stated that he thinks they push the snow straight through then try to keep it out of the
way of the other driveways.
Board Member Hoffmann asked how one gets into the Hertel house.
Mr. Erickson stated that there is a gravel driveway that goes off the end of Crest Lane, which is
privately plowed.
Town Engineer Walker stated that he did not hear any objections of the two lots and dedicating
the remaining land to Cornell. Mr. Walker stated that he would like to discuss the configuration and any
possible improvements that could be made to the end of the highway including maybe a circular arc at
• the end, or some configuration that leaves more room, and to work with the applicant within the next
couple of weeks to put together an actual subdivision plat to bring in for preliminary.
Chairperson Smith asked what Mr. Erickson's time frame was on the project.
Mr. Erickson stated that they want to do it fairly quickly to get the survey done.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she was concerned with Lot #14 and the lot to the north of
it, to be retained by Hertel and how this all effects those two lots.
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated, for the record, that the Planning Board approved the
subdivision on June 4, 1985. The Zoning Board of Appeals granted Special Approval for the Loehr's to
develop Lot #14 on June 12, 1985. Mr. Frantz stated that Lot #14 received the required Planning Board
and Zoning Board of Appeals approvals back in 1985.
Town Planner Kanter stated that staff would check the tax maps to see if the lot to the left of Lot
#14 had been consolidated.
Town Engineer Walker asked Chairperson Smith if it was alright for Mr. Erickson to order a
survey for the property.
Chairperson Smith stated that it would be appropriate, since there have been no objections by
those present.
• There being no further discussion, Chairperson Smith declared the discussion of the Sketch Plan
of 130 Crest Lane duly closed at 8:57 p.m.
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AGENDA ITEM: APPROVAL OF MINUTES - August 1, 1995.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by Robert Kenerson:
September 5, 1995
RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Meeting of August 1, 1995,
be and hereby are approved with the following corrections:
That on Page 1, Paragraph 3, the time in the first sentence be changed to reflect that Chairperson
Smith declared the meeting to be duly opened at 7:30 p.m. This was amended.
That on Page 25, Paragraph 2, which reads: "Mr. Ainslie stated that they displayed it for several
house and then wheeled it back out of view for an event that was occurring at the church."
This was amended to read: "Mr. Ainslie stated that they displayed it for several hours and then
wheeled it back out of view for an event that was occurring at the church."
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
Abstain - Hoffmann.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
AGENDA ITEM:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - August 15, 1995.
MOTION by James Ainslie, seconded by Robert Kenerson:
RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Meeting of August 15, 1995,
be and hereby are approved as written.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote. .
Aye - Smith, Ainslie, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
Abstain - Hoffmann, Finch.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
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OTHER BUSINESS.
Town Planner Kanter stated that in advance of the September 19, 1995 Planning Board Meeting,
staff has provided copies of proposed refinements to the Cornell University Special Land Use District
(SLUD), which will be back before the Planning Board for a new recommendation to the Town Board
on the changes. Mr. Kanter stated that there were no major changes to the SLUD, however there was one
change to the mapped area for the SLUD where they identified a scenic view area. Mr. Kanter stated that
he and Ellen Harrison had drafted a memo which summarizes the changes, and that Ms. Harrison will try
to be present at the September 19, 1995 Meeting to answer any questions the Board may have. Mr.
Kanter stated that if there are any questions the Board Members should feel free to contact Attorney
Barney or himself.
Town Planner Kanter stated that Ithacare had been scheduled for tonight's meeting and was pulled
from the schedule because they did not have all of the necessary material ready for the Board to review.
Mr. Kanter stated also, in part, because the Town Board will be discussing the Ithacare DEIS at their
September 11, 1995, Meeting as a result of the Planning Board referral to the Town Board specifically
as an involved agency.
Board Members were asked to review material given to them and to bring it with them to discuss
the proposed Ithacare project at the September 19, 1995, Planning Board Meeting.
Board Member Herbert Finch asked if anyone had attended the ground- breaking ceremony for Eco
Village. Mr. Finch stated that he had attended the ground- breaking ceremony and found it to be very
interesting.
There being no further business to be discussed at this meeting Chairperson Smith closed this
segment of the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon MOTION, Chairperson Smith declared the September 5, 1995, meeting of the Town of
Ithaca Planning Board duly adjourned at 9:18 p.m.
1
Starr Hays,
Recording Secretary,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board.
M=ary
Administrative Secretary.
D- 9/8/95.
A- 9/19/95.