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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
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JULY 18, 1995
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday, July 18, 1995, in Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street,
Ithaca, New York, at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairperson Stephen Smith, Candace Cornell, Eva Hoffmann,
Herbert Finch, James Ainslie, Robert Kenerson, Gregory
Bell, Jonathan Kanter (Town Planner), George Frantz
(Assistant Town Planner), John Barney (Town Attorney).
ALSO PRESENT: Mark Macera, Winsome Worthen, Ruth Newhall,
Virginia Bryant, Joseph A. Cimmino, Alan D.
Stewart, ? Seitz (Illegible), Anne Butler, Jeff
Stimpson, Attorney Susan Brock, Nancy J. Stage,
Martha Stage, John Confer, Nancy Frank, David
Cowan, Fred Noetscher, Jeffrey Spenard, Noel Desch,
Michael A. Robinson, Tony Lister, Emma Schutz, CB
Ganoung, Ronda Engman, John A. Krout, Edward
Hershey, Barbara Blanchard, Tom Niederkorn, John
Yntema, Chris Pelkie, Peter Voorhees, Allyn Ley,
John Whitcomb, Kara Hogedorn, Dave Rumsey, David ?
(Illegible), Carl Guy, Charles Brodhead, Nancy
Brown, Claudia & Jerry Weisburd, Kate Benjamin, Liz
Walker, CD Smith, Jared Jones, Monty Berman, Steve
Gaarder, Sara Pines, Arthur Goodin, Sue Bissell,
David Anderson, Unknown, Joan Bokaer, Jay Jacobson,
Pamels Carson, Doug Shire, Robert Wheeler, Lonnie
Wheeler, Alan Pytcher.
Chairperson Smith declared the meeting duly opened at 7:30
p.m. and accepted for the record the Secretary's Affidavit of
Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public Hearing in Town
Hall and the Ithaca Journal on June 19, 1995 and June 21, 1995,
respectively, together with the Secretary's Affidavit of Service by
Mail of said Notice upon the Clerks of the City of Ithaca and the
Town of Ithaca, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Planning,
upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Public Works, and upon the
applicants and /or agents, as appropriate, on June 21, 1995.
(Affidavits of Posting and Publication is attached hereto as
Exhibit #1)
Chairperson Smith read the Fire Exit Regulations to those
assembled, as required by the New York State Department of State,.
Office of Fire Prevention and Control.
AGENDA ITEM: PERSONS TO BE HEARD.
There were no persons present to be heard.
closed this segment of the meeting.
Chairperson Smith
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July 18, 1995
PUBLIC HEARING: STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT HEARING
ON THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT FOR THE PROPOSED
ITHACARE CENTER SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY, TO CONSIST OF A 115,000+
SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH 60 ADULT CARE UNITS, 20 ASSISTED LIVING
UNITS, AND 80 INDEPENDENT LIVING UNITS, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF
DANBY ROAD APPROXIMATELY 2,000 FEET SOUTH OF THE ENTRANCE TO
ITHACARE COLLEGE, ON THAT 28± ACRE PORTION OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX
PARCEL NO, 39 -1 -3, DESIGNATED AS SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT NO, 7,
ITHACARE CENTER, APPLICANT; MARK MACERA, AGENT.
Chairperson Smith declared the Public Hearing in the above -
noted matter duly opened at 7:35 p.m, and read aloud from the
Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted
above.
Chairperson Smith stated that this is a Public Hearing on the
SEQR and asked how many members of the public wished to speak.
Approximately 20 people raised their hand and indicated that
they would like to speak.
Chairperson Smith stated that the Board will set a ten minute
time limit for those that wish to speak on this matter to be sure
that everyone has a change to speak. Chairperson Smith stated that
if time permits, additional time would be allowed for further
comments.
Winsome
Worthen, a
resident
of Ithacare and the
president of
beginning.
On July
11, 1995 I looked
at all the photographs
provided at
the Resident
Council at
Ithacare,
stated that she had
been asked to
present the
Board with
a petition
which has been
signed by 75
residents in
support of
a new senior
living center on South Hill.
(Petition
the original proposal do
not
is
attached
the building
would severely compromise
the
hereto
as
Exhibit
#2)
John Yntema of 993 Danby Road, addressed the Board and stated
that he wanted to read a letter from Deborah Martin who also lives
on Danby Road.
Mr. Yntema read Ms. Martin's letter as follows:
"I am scheduled to be out of town for the July 18th meeting so
I have asked John Yntema to share my letter with the Planning
Board.
I have
followed
the progress of
the Ithacare proposal from
the
beginning.
On July
11, 1995 I looked
at all the photographs
provided at
the site
on Danby Road,
Although I am (in) full favor
of Ithacare
building
a new facility,
I remain unconvinced that
the
site on which they
are proposing
to build is acceptable.
the
compromises
that have
been made in
the original proposal do
not
change the
fact that
the building
would severely compromise
the
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view from the scenic viewpoint. Even more disturbing is the lack
of concern for the safety of the residents and their visitors given
the heavy traffic on 96B.
I would fully support a new Ithacare facility at another
location. The site could still have the advantages of a short
commute for Ithaca College students and beautiful scenery, and at
the same time could be built without losing one of the most
beautiful views in the area and causing a serious traffic hazard."
(Ms. Martin's letter, dated July 14, 1995, is attached hereto as
Exhibit #3)
Mr. Yntema stated, "I want to give you (the Board) a little
history if you'd bare with me. There was a lawsuit, as you know,
and the lawsuit came about because the judge determined, we
determined, the judge determined that you (the Board) had not given
it (the Ithacare proposal) a hard look. And I think two of the
reasons why the hard look was not given, and it's not just the
view, this is a hard look at everything, was that much of the
original EAF was prepared by the Assistant Town Planner (George
Frantz) who subsequently said on many many occasions the Board
doesn't need to consider this, you don't need to consider that,
that's already been decided, you approved this, this didn't
matter,' and so on. And it happened many, many times. He (Mr.
Frantz) is also the person who submitted an affidavit in the trial,
the only person on the staff that I know of. Secondly, about a
year ago I was not allowed to give my testimony on the EAF because
Ms. Cornell (A Board Member) stated that this was not the proper
time or forum to debate analysis of environmental fact and this
topic was discussed already by the Board. This was a public
hearing, no public input was allowed, so you (The Board) didn't get
the opportunity to say here is some other viewpoints. Secondly, in
the EAF on the, what I guess is the Town Planner's (Jonathan
Kanter) recommendations in Part III, were ignored. And I noticed
that in his memo to you (The Planning Board) dated June 15th, he's
listed a number of other things and the Board ignored those also,
both the alternatives and the mitigation measures. Now, what I
really would like to discuss, because I did mention some of the
other things, and I have to praise Mr. Wilcox for bringing it up,
is that the Board did not discuss, at least in public presence what
the public had brought up, they only discussed the view. I did not
bring that up and would like to discus that view now.
This (Appeared to be
a newsletter)
is
from the Ithacare
building bulletin, no date
a couple years
ago,
it's a picture of a
tree by the scenic overlook
outlet next to the
macadam. I wrote a
letter to Mr. Macera because it says the
view
from the South Hill
site is arguably Tompkins
County's most
breath taking panoramic
vista of Cayuga Lake. And
then this was
their
calendar head for
1994, "A thing of beauty is a joy forever ". Quite true. "Cayuga
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Lake as seen from Ithacare's future South Hill site" This (photo)
is on the overlook, this is not where the site is. And I said gee,
it's too bad you didn't include the building in the picture. And
Mr. Macera wrote back to me and said I'd be delighted to know that
standing here next to the street, 200 feet away, you can't see the
building. These are the kinds of things that are really concerns
to me. There is also something in the DEIS, a couple of letters
and also comments that the Chamber of Commerce, the Vistor's
Bureau, the Finger Lakes Association basically don't really care
about the view. They don't promote it, they don't get any
inquiries and so on. I's like to give you (The Board) a few
counter perspectives. Mr. Toomey testified December last year,
"Historic Ithaca's concern is to preserve the spectacular historic
trademark view of Ithaca that one has from the overlook on 96B for
the taxpaying public who's dollars paid for that overlook." From
the Finger Lakes Land Trust executive director, "The view from the
overlook is indeed spectacular and deserves to be protected." So
there's been a lot of negative comments about the view and it just
was happenstance I ordered a book from the National Geographic,
which as ,you know must be a national publication. And it's called
"Scenic Highways and Byways" There is a section on New York, there
is a section on Cayuga Lake, and low and behold, where did they
take the picture of Cayuga Lake from? The overlook. It's a
spectacular view.
Mr. Yntema showed an enlarged copy of the picture of Cayuga
Lake from the above - mentioned book. Mr. Yntema then showed another
enlargement of the same picture with a cut out of the proposed
Ithacare building taped to it and stated, "This is what part of the
building 'is going to do to it (the view shown in the picture). I
think that's a tragedy."
Board Member Gregory Bell asked if Mr. Yntema would pass the
photos around so that the Board could see them.
Mr. Yntema stated that the Board could view them but that he
would like them back because they were expensive. Mr. Yntema
continued, by stating, "I'm a private individual, I don't have $8
million in my budget and I think Ithacare's protestations that
everything is too expensive and the Planning Board accommodating
them in every way, well they don't have to do that because it's
expensive, indicates that Ithacare gets special dispensation when
it comes to environmental problems and I don't think that's fair."
Mr. Yntema asked if there were any questions.
Board Member Gregory Bell asked Mr. Yntema if that was the
extent of his testimony.
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Mr. Yntema stated
that
he
would
submit written testimony later
on because he did not
want
to
take
up a lot of time tonight.
Board Member Bell asked if Mr. Yntema was going to make
specific comments in his written testimony.
Mr. Yntema responded, yes.
Chairperson Smith stated that even at the close of the Public
Hearing, there will be at least a ten day period in which the
public can submit written comments.
Joseph Cimmino addressed the Board and stated that he is a
retired Air Force Officer residing at 1306 Oberon Drive in King
Ferry, New York. Mr. Cimmino stated that he was representing his
elderly mother -in -law, a resident of Ithacare, under her Power -of-
Attorney. Mr. Cimmino read a prepared statement to the Planning
Board. Part of Mr. Cimmino's statement included ten photographs,
and two maps that he had attached to poster boards which can be
reviewed in the Planning Department at Town Hall. (Mr. Cimmino's
statement is attached hereto as Exhibit #4)
Board Member Gregory Bell stated that Photograph Number 1
shows two signs.
Mr. Cimmino stated that there are two signs shown in
Photograph Number 1, one sign says "Parking Area" and below that
sign is another one that shows an image of a camera.
Board Member Bell asked Mr. Cimmino what the image of the
camera meant?
Mr. Cimmino responded that the image of the camera meant that
there is a photographic opportunity available from the parking
area.
Board Member
Bell
asked if
that indicated
only a safety turn
off area or does
that
indicate
something about
view.
Mr. Cimmino stated that it indicates that one could use their
camera, if this site was a scenic overlook designated by the State,
it would say so, the sign has a very specific designation.
Board Member Bell asked if Mr. Cimmino was indicating that the
camera sign does not indicate that it's a scenic overlook no matter
what its designation.
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Mr. Cimmino responded, that he is saying that it is a safety
parking area with photographic opportunity. Mr. Cimmino stated,
yes, there is a view from that site, there is no question. The
sign that the community developed with the State says "Cayuga Lake
City of Ithaca Overlook constructed with community support by the
New York State Department of Transportation maintenance forces ".
Mr. Cimmino stated that he had been to the site and watched people
with cameras get out of their vehicles and get back into their cars
because the lake was so hazy one could not get a decent photograph.
Mr. Cimmino stated that there is a view that is possible, but he
thinks that the evidence suggests that is not the primary purpose
of that site. Mr. Cimmino stated that his evidence, looking at
cars coming in and using the site, and the majority of cars use it
for the purpose for which it was intended by the State, a safety
parking area.
Board Member Bell asked if observation of cars in December,
January and March, when the place isn't even plowed, are
appropriate for determining the use as a view.
day,
Mr. Cimmino stated that he was there at various times
and some very beautiful days as indicated by his testimony,
of the
there
cars
are many
out of 30
variables
on various
that need to be considered. But,
days, some of which were very fine
only 6
days,
took
a
look
at
the
view.
Nancy Frank of 206 Klinewood Road addressed the Board and
stated that she was a member of many national conservation groups,
one of which is the Nature Conservancy which has a chapter in New
York State, Ms. Frank stated that she is more than happy and
pleased that Ithacare has done such a tremendous job in looking at
the environment and changing their plans and bending over backwards
to meet the needs of the requirements put upon them. Ms. Frank
stated that she is also pleased that residents now and in the
future can enjoy nature and all of its beauty which lends so much
to their mental and physical health as they are in their
twilight /golden years. Ms. Frank stated that she was a member of
the Board of Ithaca ten years ago and she was the chairman of the
Long Range Planning Committee when the dream was started to find a
suitable place for Ithacare. Ms. Frank stated that there were
numerous site visitations while looking for a place for the
residents to live. Ms. Frank stated that the association with
Ithaca College is exciting and she knows that it will be a benefit
to Ithaca, Ithacare, the future residents and the community. Ms.
Frank stated that her mother -in -law had spent approximately 4 years
at Ithacare while she was in the middle stages of Alzheimer's
Disease before she was transferred to Lakeside Nursing Home, Ms.
Frank stated that the care and the love that she had received at
Ithacare is indescribable. Ms. Frank stated that even after her
mother -in -law had moved to Lakeside, staff from Ithacare still took
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the time to visit
okay and that she
that Ithaca cared
for the residents
Michael Robi
statement to the
her
was
for
nson
Plan
there and make sure th
comfortable. Ms. Frank
Ithacare the way that I
of 248 Floral Avenue,
ping Board:
at the transition was
stated that she hoped
thacare's staff cares
read from a prepared
"Mr. Chairman. Members of the board. My name is Michael A.
Robinson. I live at 248 Floral Avenue, Ithaca, New York 14850.
I am a writer and a professional consultant. I might add, at one
point in life, I worked as a professional environmentalist with the
organization that spearheaded the "Clean Water Act ", the "Clean Air
Act ", New Jersey's "Clean Water Enforcement Act" and numerous other
laws, policies and practices that have played extremely important
parts in staving off environmental disasters. Were that
organization, "Clean Water Action" active in Tompkins County, it
would be appalled that you could possibly consider the Ithacare
proposal of the DEIS under consideration with any level of
seriousness. As I stated to you at an earlier meeting, Ithacare is
a bad proposal and it's draft DEIS is woefully lacking and fails to
meet the scoping outline and other requirements in numerous ways.
As a matter of fact, it is so totally lacking in its obligations to
meet specific requirements, it is beyond me how this board could
have considered it acceptable for the basis of this hearing.
Having said the aforementioned, I will now be specific. The
DEIS mandates the inclusion of a wildlife census. What has been
tendered by Ithacare is an insult to the intelligence of this
board, the Town of Ithaca and the people of the State of New York.
In listing Mammalia, the only creature I found listed was deer.
Now, this does more than challenge one's intelligence. It is a
direct violation of the spirit and the letter of the law and a
demonstration of cavalier arrogance that should have led almost
everyone in this room, apparently with the exception of Ithacare
and its people, to be aware to the existence of rabbits, field
mice, chipmunks, muskrats, woodchucks, squirrels and any number of
other mammals maintaining a presence on that property. No reptiles
are mentioned. This is thoroughly amazing, insofar as the property
in question is the home of garter snakes, milk snakes, turtles,
lizards and who knows how many more. The only way we'll ever know
is for a legitimate assessment to be conducted by a professional
firm with environmental credentials. Since I've already
demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that Ithacare cannot be
relied upon to conduct a comprehensive study of this kind. To
further add insult to injury, Ithacare let us believe there are no
amphibians existing on the property, when in reality it is the home
to frogs, toads and eastern newts, as well as other creatures
Ithacare intentionally failed to catalogue. Ithacare's bird census
fails to mention the vast majority of the more than forty species
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of birds that have been documented by area bird watchers on that
property, and equally as bad, there's no mention of other creatures
that live there and play important ecological roles in both animal
and human food chains. The bees that harvest pollen on that
property were certainly worthy of mention and two (2) threatened
insect species that have been found on that property received no
mention, either as a result of cunning or ignorance. For the
record, those insects are the Praying Mantis and the Walking Stick.
Suffice it to say, the board is totally justified and obligated to
reject Ithacare's DEIS for failing to property inventory the
wildlife that `lives on, uses and depends on that property for its
existence.
As I mentioned to this board on an earlier date, when WTKO
Radio sought to construct its towers on King Road in the Town of
Ithaca in the early 70's, the board said no, that the open-air -
latticed- structures would constitute "visual pollution ". Today,
that property is covered with single- family homes and the towers,
less than 1,000 feet from those homes, in the Town of Danby, in no
way impair the visibility of the new residences that have been
built. Still, this board chose to be safe rather than sorry, and
it amazes me under the circumstances, how you (the Board) can
possibly consider allowing a 115,000 square foot structure to
devastate the existing views of adjacent and area homeowners and
ruin their property values in the process. More germane to the
DEIS, although Ithacare has attempted to obfuscate the real facts
of what it wishes to perpetrate upon the property, the area, the
Town of Ithaca and the State of New York, the truth is this project
will totally disrupt the glorious view of West Hill, a portion of
the Enfield Hills and have a major impact on the spectacular view
of Cayuga Lake that led the State of New York to create a scenic
overlook adjacent to the property in question.
In addressing this, I might add, that there are signs there
that say scenic overlook. I have viewed the signs that say scenic
overlook and unless somebody has removed the signs that say scenic
overlook, which is always possible, it was designated as a scenic
overlook in addition to being a rest stop. I might also add that
I can understand that comments of the former officer mentioning
those things. If we take a look at the military's horrendous
record of protecting the environment the almost $50 Billion in
clean up of closed bases that is now being required by the
environmental protection agency will understand the total disregard
for nature that comes from that area.
If my reading
of the DEIS
is correct, Ithacare
suggests it may
leave a slight
view of
the
top
of Enfield Hills and
only infringe
a little
bit on
the
view
of
Cayuga Lake. In
many ways this
proposal
reminds me
of
the
suggestion that you can
be a little bit
pregnant,
or that
you
can
cut
the lips and nose
out of the Mona
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Lisa and still have most of the beautiful painting left to enjoy.
The documentation presented is misleading at best and maybe even
criminal. In addition to permanently altering the visibility from
the State designated scenic view, the spectacular views from
automobiles heading north on Route 96B will forever be impaired by
this development. From the point on the highway where the full
vista comes into view, at forty miles an hour a passenger has
approximately 32 seconds to luxuriate in the spectacular panorama.
Where the proposed structure to be erected as suggested, that
viewing time could be cut to as little as five seconds or less.
These observations were made by me personally, and I believe they
will pass any scrutiny. Figures lie and liars figure, and the
figures and photos offered certainly fail in that category. The
proposed lighting would undoubtedly detract from the beauty of the
night time view of the lights outlining the lake and the long -range
effect could cost our area untold sums as a result of marring this
uncommon view of natural beauty. The only way to prevent this from
happening is to tell Ithacare that in spite of its willingness to
wreck nature, ruin homeowner's property values, and devastate
potential tourism, to save the cost of pumping sewage up the hill,
it will have to more this development 800 to 900 feet west of its
intended site. Ithacare tells this board that without this
development it could go out of business. It suggests it is some
kind of special public service organization, and as such it should
receive favored treatment no commercial developer could ever get.
Let's set the record straight, Ithacare has presented no financial
documentation of these statements. It has failed to address what
it intends to do with the remaining portion of this prime property
site. It is not a registered charity. Though it chose of
incorporate as a not - for - profit corporation, it generates positive
cash flow, and it might be added that some of the most successful
corporations in America are incorporated as "not- for - profit ".
In addition to the aforementioned failure of Ithacare to meet
the minimum requirements of this DEIS, there are two more areas
where it has offered little more than token recognition of what
could develop into extremely serious problems. Namely, the handling
of its sewage and the property displacement creating the potential
for flooding of Stone Quarry Road and other areas to the west and
north of the proposed facility. Much more detail should have been
provided and it should have been prepared by top -notch hydrologists
and engineers. No doubt, others will be able to address these
questions with more knowledge than I, but it is imperative they be
answered. To date, they have not be adequately answered and
certainly not in the draft DEIS tendered by Ithacare.
There is one other potential impact on the Town of Ithaca that
I have not mentioned. Insofar as the State designated scenic view
I
s concerned, its obstruction is tortious; a wrongful act against
all the people of the State of New York and it is incumbent upon
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the Town of Ithaca, its boards, agents and nominees to not allow it
to be diminished in any way. Rather than me address the possible
consequences, I have noted that one of the most famous litigators
in the United States, CNN legal consultant J. Michael Kelly of Los
Angeles, is present here this evening. Mr. Kelly, whose legal
exploits include successfully arguing the first legal divorce of
children from their parents, a $12,000,000.00 award for children
abducted, and his work for Childhelp U.S.A., along with publishing
three or four books, is a property owner immediately adjacent to
the property in question. I will leave those areas to him. I
thank you for your time and consideration and implore you to
require Ithacare to meet both the spirit and the letter of the law.
This board will eventually make a final determination, and in doing
so I ask you to stop Ithacare from running roughshod over its
proposed new neighbors, the people of the State of New York or
anyone else. This can best be accomplished by notifying them if
they want to build, they'll have to consider all interests, not
just their own, and they can accomplish this by moving their
proposed facility 800 to 900 feet due west. I thank you. If you
have any questions, I'll try my best to answer them."
Board Member James Ainslie asked Mr. Robinson if the Ithacare
building obstruct the view of Cayuga Lake as one would come down
Route 96 heading north.
Mr. Robinson responded, partially.
Board Member Ainslie stated that he had never seen a picture
that shows that this building intrudes anything on the view of
Cayuga Lake,
Mr.
Robinson stated that
Mr. Ainslie
needed
to place
himself
"to the
south of the proposed
Ithacare
facility,
drive up
toward
a
two story building with other
would find that you now have an
a portion of the lake view but
and all but the very tops of th
visible from that side."
extensions of lighting, etc., one
obstruction. Not only cutting off
cutting off almost all of West Hill
e Enfield Hills which are now fully
Board Member Ainslie stated that he lives on West Hill and
that what Mr. Robinson said was not a true statement.
Mr. Robinson stated that he "lives at the bottom of West Hill
but he went to Ithacare's proposed site to check it."
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Board Member Ainslie stated, as
farms out Danby way, Newfield way,
an old farmer, there were
and those fields were all
many
cut
off, but now with no farming the fields are growing up and there is
great haven there for every type of species there that has been
mentioned. Mr.
little imprint of
Ainslie asked why
Ithacare going to
Mr. Robinson felt that
destroy everything.
this
Mr. Robinson responded, "Because of its proximity to so much
development already existing. The deer can't play in the court
yards at Ithaca College. The other animals residing there aren't
going to find safe haven in the old NCR building."
A member of the audience asked Mr. Robinson to repeat his last
statement.
Mr. Robinson repeated that the deer can't play in the court
yards at Ithaca College,
Town Attorney Barney stated that one person speaks at a time
and there is not going to be a debate, this is to receive comments
from the public only.
Chairperson Smith stated that unless it is for clarification,
the Board members points for discussion can be held until after the
Public Hearing is closed.
Mr. Robinson stated, "I will complete his (Mr. Ainslie's)
question by saying, and Stone Quarry Road would not be a very safe
place for them."
Nancy Stage of 39 Hillcrest Road, addressed the Board and
stated: "I appreciate the opportunity to come before you this
evening. I come wearing three hats, but as I've sat here, I have
acquired a few more, and I will try to address those also." Ms.
Stage then read from a prepared statement:
"Dear Sir and Board Members:
I implore the
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
to permit Ithacare
to build a new senior
living center as
proposed
on the identified
South Hill site.
I speak to you from
three perspectives: as a
former resident of
South Hill, as a new
resident
to Ithaca, and as
an impassioned relative
of an Ithacare
resident.
I was born and raised in Ithaca and spent my happiest
childhood years growing up on Hudson Street. I have witnessed many
changes to this neighborhood. Ithaca College is a very positive
aspect of 30 years of transitions on South Hill. The economic
development that has occurred as a result of its relocation from
downtown has encouraged numerous small businesses to emerge and
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flourish. The attractive physical plant, landscaping, and
community resources developed by Ithaca College more than offset
the effects of any additional traffic or student housing. I can't
imagine the Fourth of July without the benefit of real fireworks
displays. I can't imagine a more beautiful setting for my wedding
20 years ago. Consider the youth, productive adults today, that
have passed through the nationally recognized Ithaca College
programs. I want those studying in its Gerontology Institute to
have the benefits programmatic ties and hands on experience that
Ithacare can provide if situated on South Hill. This relationship
will set Ithaca College students apart in the increasingly
competitive health care professions. It will set Ithaca apart as
a community where senior citizens are encouraged to contribute.
South Hill can benefit again through the establishment of a
symbiotic relationship between Ithaca College and Ithacare.
Many seniors in the 1990's do not have the benefit of extended
family and are faced with living longer. I remind you that we will
be walking in these moccasins sooner than we realize. I see a lot
of gray hair in this room. Most of us will be approaching this
from the perspective of low or middle income persons who cannot
afford the opportunity that a place such as Kendall offers. Yet,
we are responsible caring citizens who deserve dignity, security
and caring relationships in our prolonged frail old age. I have
seen the difference that Ithacare has made in my own family. My 91
year old grandmother was an isolated, depressed, senior citizen
unable to cope with her dying husband. She was fortunate in that
she lived in a single family home in Belle Sherman and had nearby
family to assist her with transportation, shopping and health care.
Yet she and her only child (who herself is in her seventies) both
found their respective caretaker demands overwhelming, as they
waited for an opening in Ithacare. The demand exists in Ithaca and
the surrounding communities for such a facility and the site that
it deserves to have is South Hill,
Today, Ruth, my grandmother, is an optimistic, engaged and
very busy lady who continues to thrive physically, intellectually,
"relationally" and spiritually. She is the product of her new
environment, even as inadequate and as obsolete as it is. She is
using her mind in new challenges as an Ithacare Board member and as
a guest lecturer at Ithaca College. She is in charge of her
dignity and secure in her knowledge that she is more independent at
Ithacare than she was in her home. She has more stamina for daily
activities, a better diet and friends who have common memories and
life experiences. My mother is more confident about her mother's
living arrangements and less overwhelmed herself. They now have
quality time with and for each other. Our collective regret is
that Ithacare did not have facilities to accommodate Ruth and her
beloved husband. They would not have had to suffer the indignity
of separation that so emotionally drained them the last six months
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of my grandfather's life had the new facility, as proposed,
existed.
The construction of the Ithacare facility on the South Hill
site is a necessity in our community. The planned residential
style senior housing is the best use of the rezoned land. It is in
accordance with the Town of Ithaca's Comprehensive Plan. Any other
type of approved construction by the Planning Board would adversely
affect density and substantially increase negative impacts. The
proposed architectural plan and site development plan have met and
mitigated all measurable impact, including any perceived impact on
"scenic views ". On July 5th, I made a specific research trip up
South Hill to see the site for myself, and I used the parking
turnoff that is there evidently for safety purposes. When I
approached from the North, the,,signage for the site was right on
top of the driveway. Had I been -doing the speed limit, I would not
have been able to negotiate the turn. A tourist would have to be
clairvoyant to take advantage of the overlook. I went one step
further and took a walk around. While there was a scenic view of
the lake valley, my foreground viewing spoiled the effect of the
entire experience. I collected just a small portion of the waste
that was under foot and in plain view. I question the purpose and
use of this site when I see fast food garbage, spent cigarette
butts and beer bottle caps. It is incomprehensible to me how
Ithacare could devastate this site in such a comparable manner.
Turkey, deer, backyard birds, wetland, reptiles, amphibians and
human beings will all be accommodated and benefit from the approval
of the Ithacare proposal before you. The minimally interrupted
view will more than be offset by the enhanced landscaping and
presence of caring senior citizens who take pride in their
surroundings.
Actions are worth a thousand words. I question the true
motivation of the few opponents to Ithacare 's proposed construction
on South Hill. It is a conscientious proposal and the only
sensible alternative to Ithaca's dire need for senior living.
Ithaca's Planning Board has an opportunity to put itself in the
forefront of communities addressing the challenges of the aging and
its demanding demographics. I fully expect you to meet the
challenge on behalf of the Greater Ithaca Community.
And, in closing, I had not intended to do this, but I'm a good
old girl scout and
I have
been
taught to pick up trash.
On my July
5th research trip to
this
site,
I picked up this trash,
(Ms. Stage
showed the Board a
box of
trash she had collected.) and
I bring it
here tonight as an
example of
what the view is like.
I will be
glad to remove it,
but,
for
the record, I would like
you (the
Board) to view it.
Thank
you
for your time."
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NOTE: At the close of the meeting, the box of trash Ms. Stage
had shown the Board was left in the Board room with a
note written on the box which read, "Left as fact."
Board
Member Gregory
Bell
asked if
Members
the
Board
members were
allowed to
ask questions of
the
members
of
the
public
that speak.
Chairperson Smith stated that if the questions specific to
clarify something, but we do not want this to become a debating
session.
Board Member Bell stated that there has been a string of
concertions which are clearly false, and he thinks that if these
comments are allowed to stand on the record, there should be an
opportunity to be able to question what these people mean and let
them stand behind their statements. Otherwise, I think we should
strike them from the record.
Town
Attorney John Barney
stated that the
Board
Members
have
the right
to ask them any questions
you want if
you
choose to
ask
them. Attorney Barney stated that in terms of the way the process
will be, is that these comments are accepted and then the Planning
Board has the obligation to consider those comments and respond to
them as part of the final Environmental Impact Statement. In the
response one can make the point as to whether the points have any
validity or they are representing erroneous desertions of the fact.
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that she did not feel it
would be constructive to try to set the record straight.
Board Member Bell responded that he did not want the people
that are making false statements to go away thinking that the Board
is just accepting them all.
Attorney Barney stated that he thought that the final proof of
that would be when the final document comes out. Attorney Barney
stated that he did not want to deter the Board Members from asking
questions as to a point of information, which is proper, but he did
not
feel that
debating
the
issue
between Board
Members and people
of
the public
is going
to
advance
the process
very much.
Board Member
Bell stated that he
agreed and
that was why he
was not asking all
realize that some
of his questions, but he wants
of the statements are not true.
the public to
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated.that if the Board members
needed a member of the public to clarify something that they have
said, they should ask for that clarification.
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Board Member
Cornell
asked
if
Board
Member Bell
was
thinking
of responding to
comments
made,
or
asking
for clarification.
anybody
views on
could
Board Member Bell responded that he wanted to
find out if they
really believe
what they are saying.
For example,
Ms. Stage stated
that wildlife
will be benefited
by the construction
of this
project. Mr.
Bell stated that he
found it hard
to believe that
anybody
views on
could
project and
the view.
defend
once said
that
that
statement,
but she
made
it.
Attorney Barney stated that he had found the prior speaker's
statement to be somewhat impassioned, people have a lot of
emotional feelings about these issues. Attorney Barney stated that
he did not feel that debating each particular point is going to
advance the process very much. Attorney Barney suggested that the
Board let the people speak and if there is a question for
clarification ask it, otherwise let them speak.
Chairperson Smith stated that there were a number of written
comments received from the public over the last few weeks, and read
a list of the names of the people that made written submissions. (A
copy of said list is attached hereto as Exhibit #5)
Ronda Engman of Danby, addressed the Board and stated, I had
just intended to step up and say that my statement of June 20th
stands, and that I feel that the EIS is inadequate. But sitting
back here in the audience, I'd like to make one other comment and
that is that I'm a little bit disappointed in the way that the
proceeding have been conducted because I think that some of the
comments have been totally irrelevant to the issue at hand, which
is the Draft DEIS, and a lot of the comments are based on emotional
issues, particularly by people who have relatives at Ithacare or
themselves are thinking of living at Ithacare some time in the
future. I don't think anybody is asking Ithacare to disappear off
the face of the earth, it's simply a matter of location. I would
like to request of the Board that the Board instruct those people
who are going to make further comments to keep their comments to
the issue at hand, which is the draft DEIS. I would hope that when
the Board makes its decision that it will make its decision based
strictly and solely on the matter of facts and what has been
presented in a factual manner rather than by some sort of emotional
issue. Thank you."
Chairperson Smith stated that the Board should stick to what
is included the DEIS as much as possible.
Edward
Hershey of
1156 Danby Road, addressed
the Board
and
stated, "I
come here in response to a leaflet that
was left in
my
mailbox urging me to
come. It didn't say anything about
DEIS
statement,
it urged me
to come and please state my
views on
this
project and
the view.
And I'm doing so. Somebody
once said
that
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you can judge a society by the way it treats its prison inmates.
Based on what I have heard and seen in this debate, in the Ithaca
Journal and on the air waves, since coming to Ithaca, I would add:
You can judge a community in the 1990s by the way it treats its
elderly. I visited Ithacare in its present location with a friend
1who was visiting someone she knows, and I came prepared for the
worst looking at the outward condition of that elderly building,
and knowing from my days as a newspaper reporter covering the
nursing home, elderly facilities, and adult home scandals of 15 to
20 years ago and what goes on inside. For once I was shocked for
a positive and knowing something about the proposal, I thought to
myself, if this facility can operate at this level of efficiency
and care and clear love where it is, my goodness, what will it be
like where it wants to go ?. I enjoy the view, I drive every day
down that hill. I can tell you it's more refreshing than my first
cup of coffee. I can tell you there's one view that I think I and
all of us would enjoy a lot more, and it may be emotional, but it's
real. The view of the kind of people we're talking about, who if
we're lucky enough we will all one day become, enjoying that view
themselves as productive residents in the final years of their
life. I urge you to support this proposal. It sounds like a very
good idea. And it sounds like Ithaca. Thank you."
John Krout, a resident of Ithaca and the Director of the
Gerontology Institute at Ithaca College, addressed the Board and
stated, "I just want to reiterate that the location of Ithacare is
strategically placed to enhance the intergenerational caring and
education that is going to go on between Ithacare and Ithaca
College students, and that particular location is very important to
that. I also value views, I consider myself an environmentalist
and I think Ithaca is a beautiful place and I think it has many
beautiful views. To my mind the most beautiful part of that view
is of the Lake which will not be, as I can determine from the data,
impacted by the building of Ithaca. I also believe that driving
down Route 96B, if you look at that view for 40 seconds, you're
probably a dead person, cause you haven't been paying attention to
the traffic. I drive down that road a lot and I seriously do not
believe that people spend that much time looking at it. And, I
also believe that it is true the view will be changed, you can not
build a building and not change the view. The question is will it
be destroyed? I do not think so. Will there be environmental and
economic ruin to this area because of the building of the building?
No, I do not think so. Will there have been an accommodation to
the building? Yes. Will people have to change the way they view
West Hill from that location? Yes. There is going to be a change,
but I think, when looking at an environmental impact statement, we
do have to take into consideration the relative nature of that
change, the relative impact of that structure on that view and in
that whole environmental setting. In my opinion, since we have
basically heard statements of opinion with some fact, in my opinion
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there will still f
area and I think
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gaining something
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a very breathtaking view of the
people should keep that in mind
the beautiful views of that ar
very valuable. Thank you."
lake from that
We are not
�a and we are
Board Member Bell asked Mr. Krout as the Director of the
Gerontology Institute, is the gerontology program at Ithaca Collage
accredited.
Mr. Krout responded that no where in the nation are
gerontology programs accredited.
Board Member Bell asked what its status was academically.
Mr. Krout responded that the Gerontology Institute is itself
an administrative unit operates college wide. There are two
gerontology courses of study at IC, there is gerontology minor
which any student at Ithaca College can take regardless of major
course of study, and there is a gerontology concentration for
community health education majors. We also have in preparation to
go to the State Education Department for what is called review and
registration because they do not use the word accreditation or
approval, a gerontology certificate for continuing education
students. IC will soon have three courses of study for students
both traditional and "non- traditional" in gerontology; all of whom
would benefit from the proximity of Ithacare and, in addition, we
have many students that may not take that degree of interest in
gerontology.
Board Member Bell stated
that much
of the discussion about
location deals with the location in terms
of view. Mr. Bell
asked
Mr. Krout what he thought of the proposed
location in terms
of the
lack of pedestrian access that
residents
would have to any
sort of
community, and whether it is
hazardous
to the students
to be
walking across Route 96B,
Mr., Krout sta
connection between
discussion about an
service available i
currently cross the
ted that
the two
underpaE
f needed
highway
it is difficult to gage where the
facilities would be. There has been
�s, there would be some kind of shuttle
Mr. Krout stated that the students
all the time anyway.
John Confer stated that he has had some professional
involvement with the Draft Impact Statement and would like to
respond to some of the criticisms of that Draft Impact Statement.
Mr. Confer stated that he "would like to preface his remarks by
contrasting this evening with other parts of the world where, when
people disagree, they quite literally kill each other. I have
found this evening and other meetings to be truly and really
wonderfully inspiring. I think it's really a wonderful tribute to
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our civilizat
disagreeing as
disagree with t
is inadequate,
remarks."
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ion to have people strongly
civilly and elegantly as they can.
-.he characterization that the Draft
and I would like to comment on
July 18, 1995
disagreeing and
I very strongly
Impact Statement
several specific
Board Member Cornell stated that in Mr. Confer's letter
contained in the DEIS, there was a statement which said, unusual
species are found in unusual habitats. Ms. Cornell asked Mr.
Confer could explain what that meant, it may help people understand
the basic principle.
Mr. Confer stated that "Tompkins County, at the turn of the
century was 95o active agriculture, it is now about 40o agriculture
and abandoned farm land has gone through the stages of succession
where there is shrubby habitat as seen at the proposed site. There
is still much farmland which is being abandoned in Tompkins County.
It is a very common kind of a habitat in Tompkins County. It might
almost the most common-type of habitat in Tompkins County and the
plants and animals that depend on patches of grass and shrubs and
trees coming in are widely distributed in Tompkins County, Upstate
New York, and throughout most of eastern North America. This is
not an unusual site. It is a dirt common kind of habitat and the
great majority, every animal and plant species that I know of there
occurs widely throughout Tompkins County. Addressing specifically
the amphibians which use the pond, the first proposed map of the
parking area encroach a little bit on the existing pond there. I
spoke with Tom Niederkorn, I spoke with the site engineers, I spoke
with Mark Macera, and from all of them I have had assurances, in
fact the revised map of the parking area has moved back from its
encroachment on the pond. The amphibians are safe, I would say.
The drainage from the pavement which was once routed into that pond
and which in a storm would cause great "pulsatile" rises and
dropping of the water level which could kill some of the frogs and
toads, and larval stages of the Walking Stick, has been re- routed
to the downstream portion of the pond. The parking area has been
removed. Some of the nicest wildlife features on that site had
some assurance that their particular habitat would be protected.
We have heard reference to the rarity of Walking Sticks and Praying
Mantis. You can buy Praying Mantis commercially by the thousands,
they are not rare. If we are to take the statement that every
place that has a Praying Mantis is no longer open for development,
there wouldn't be a house, road, parking lot, or building built in
Tompkins County because once in a while, this rather commonly
distributed animal is going to occur there. It is not a rare
organism. You can buy it commercially, I have seen a advertisement
for that this year. I don't believe that it receives any
protection. The Walking Stick is an aquatic organism most of its
life, it emerges to terrestrial flying for a brief time. The
longest part of its life cycle would be protected in the pond area.
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I am not all that familiar with mammals, I have seen deer tracks
there, the mice, the rodents, the woodchuck, that would occur
there. I have spent 15 trips of one to five hours walking around
that site. I get paid to be an environmentalist. I write articles
in professional journals. I have received a number of
internationally juried research grants. I have never seen anything
that is unusual there. I do environmental studies as my profession
and when I don't get paid for it, I spend weeks doing it, I spend
nights doing it, I spend weekends doing it. My vacations are
canoeing and camping in wilderness areas to look, in their actual
environment. The species that occur in this habitat are widely
distributed and common. I am absolutely confident of that with
regards to the birds which I have identified. That is certainly my
professional opinion with regard to the other organisms, some of
which I have not identified. We have to make a balance, you (the
Board) have to make a balance, you have to come up with some kind
of solomon -like decision. It is absolutely true that if you build
a parking lot, and a roof, and a building, you're going to kill
some green photosynthetic stuff that provides food and habitat for
organisms and you are going to decrease the number of wild
organisms living in Tompkins County. Against that, we have to
weigh things of different kind and degree and value and talk about
Ithacare providing housing for the elderly. In weighing these two
different criteria, two different kinds of value situations, please
keep in mind that we live in a world and a country where the
demography says we are going to have far more elderly people
shortly: We live in a county and in a state where this kind of a
shrub habitat is very common and we are trading the ability or
inability to build housing for the elderly against protection or
non - protection for a very common type of habitat."
Board Member Cornell asked if inference could be used to
assume that a certain animal could exist on a site based solely on
the habitat that is observed, even without seeing the species
itself.
Mr. Confer stated that one could
be leery of lists because "lay people"
makes that site really unique for a
Ithacare site is a dirt common site,
rare plant or a rare bird, I would not
use inference, but he would
would assume that the list
common site. The proposed
and "if I wanted to find a
spend a minute there."
Jay Mattison of 985 Danby Road, addressed the Board and
stated, "First off I'd like to thank the lady (Ms. Stage) that
picked up the trash, we live across the street from there and
generally every Monday morning at six o'clock when I put our trash
out for Superior Disposal, I go over and pick up most of the refuse
that's left there. I've been doing that for about four years, so
I appreciate the once you did that. Thank you."
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Ms..Stage responded, "Thank you."
July 18, 1995
Mr.
Mattison stated, "Ithaca
College doesn't take care of it
(The overlook)
.
I have questions
which I would like to ask as
part
of the DEIS
and
what we have seen
and heard. I guess what I'd
like
to do is
start
last Tuesday, it
was July 11th, they (The
Town
Planning
staff)
had the viewing of the pictures over at
the
overlook
and I'd
like to start by
asking both Jim Ainslie and
Mark
Macera a
question
to respond to,
and that is: "Why aren't you 17
feet tall
?"
Board Member James Ainslie responded that he did not
understand that inference.
Mr. Mattison stated, "We were looking at the skyline and
looking at the trees, and I believe that between the two of you
(Mr. Ainslie and Mr. Macera) you made the comment, I think Mark
said, that the trees grow about six inches a year. Is that fairly
accurate in depicting what you said ?"
Mr. Macera responded that he deferred that to Mr. Mattison
because he had quoted him several times. Mr. Macera stated that he
did indicate that trees grow.
Mr. Mattison stated that "Harry made the same comment to us,
that trees would grow up and.."
Board Member Ainslie stated that he did not believe that he
had said anything. Mr. Ainslie stated that he did not talk to Mr.
Macera on the site.
Mr. Mattison stated that "this was separate, you were talking
to several people and you were talking about the trees, your wife
was there and I was there. Mr. Ainslie stated that George Frantz
had pointed out that one of the trees in the picture was that tree
over there. Mr. Ainslie stated that he did mention anything about
trees growing.
Attorney Barney stated that Mr. Mattison needed to make a
statement and make a point without trying to engage us in a
question and answer session.
Mr. Mattison stated, "What I am trying to have understood is
that it was some type of an inference that the trees would grow up
and continue to grow to a height and continue to grow forever. But
I think we know that there are genetic, and metabolic and biologic
constraints."
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Board Member Ainslie stated that he took exception to that, he
is a farmer and he knows that things stop. Mr. Ainslie stated that
he never said anything about trees growing forever.
Mr. Mattison responded, "Then'I misunderstood you. So, the
trees are not an issue and will not grow any more."
Mr. Mattison stated that he would like to refer to his letter
of June 20, 1994, where I make the statement that "I strongly feel
that there is not enough accurate and credible data available" for
the Town Planning Board to make an informed decision on this
project. "It is my opinion that (this) considerable misinformation
has been presented or information based on innuendo has been
presented as fact." Mr. Mattison stated, "that was a year ago and
I just want to reiterate that. I'd like to have the pictures
brought up because I have a question about those." (A copy of Mr.
Mattison's letter, which is actually dated December 20, 1994, is
attached hereto as Exhibit # 6)
Mr. 'Mattison directed everyone's attention to photo IV.H.2.c.
and asked on what date the photos were taken? Mr. Mattison asked
if they were they taken the day of the balloon test?
Mr. Macera responded that he was unsure of the date that the
photos were taken, but most of the photos were taken the day of the
balloon test, but some were not.
Mr. Mattison stated that the day of the balloon test, the
parking area was full of cars, however, in the photos in question
the parking spaces are empty. Mr. Mattison asked how the photos
were generated, who generated them and on what dates they were
taken on, and how they were prepared, because I think there is a
credibility issue here, neither good nor bad, but just wanting to
know the methodology. I think is part of the information and the
data collection process and the discovery process that we are using
to make judgements on. If we take timed series or start putting
things together from different sites, different days, I am
questioning if we (the public) are seeing the real accurate and
precise information. Mr. Mattison continued and stated that he
"had a question of good Esquire Barney, and that is when we talk
and we have the affidavits that were submitted as part of the
litigation, the lawsuit - those are I want to have clarified and
those are just statements and all that the sworn part means is that
they are sworn at a certain time and place by a notary public. The
accuracy and information that's contained on them has not been
judged for accuracy, preciseness or credibility. It's just a
statement made by an individual."
Attorney Barney responded that is typically what happens.
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Mr. Mattison stated that he believed that if we read those
affidavits there are several things that, particularly Mr. Frantz
and Mr. Macera, have stated that would have to come into question
about the context and the content of them. That, again, is part of
the DEIS, and what we have before us and what his being reviewed by
the public and the Town Planning Board. Mr. Mattison stated that
he thought that we need the facts, we need accurate information and
that we can sit down and meaningfully review it, and I'm
questioning, as I did a year ago, whether that has really been
presented to the Town Planning Board.
Mr. Mattison stated "if we need to have litigation to test it,
that may be where things go, but I think it needs to be fair and
accurate to all sides. We have a responsibility to the public. We
have a responsibility to the folks at Ithacare. We have a
responsibility to the neighbors, and we have a responsibility as a
government and the regulatory agents. I think that we need to take
that very seriously."
John Yntema addressed the Board and stated, on behalf of Mr.
J. Michael Kelly, an attorney who was here to testify, had to leave
because of an emergency and will be in contact with the Town staff.
Tony Lister the Chaplin of Ithacare, addressed the Board and
stated that one of his major jobs is to help transplant people from
their home of many years and /or from other states. People are
often like plants, in that if the environment is not favorable,
they begin to wilt. Mr. Lister stated that when Ithacare first
started talking about possible locations for new facilities, there
were two sites mentioned in his hearing. One was near the hospital
and one was near Ithaca College. Mr. Lister stated that he is glad
that Ithacare chose to try to locate near the college. The people
who come to Ithacare might be encouraged to keep their minds
growing rather than gazing out toward the hospital. Mr. Lister
stated that viewing the hospital would be diminishing to look at
because it would not encourage their minds to grow as viewing
beauty and the college. Mr. Lister stated that he would encourage
that, as we are looking at environments, we think of the human
environments that Ithacare is trying to give to the citizens that
it seeks to serve.
Board Member Bell
asked Mr. Lister
if
only a small
portion
of
residents at Ithacare
are Tompkins
County
residents to
begin
with.
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Mr. Lister stated that he had no numerical idea. Mr. Lister
stated that certainly there are people who have lived in Ithaca all
of their lives who come to Ithacare, but there are also many people
who come from Pennsylvanian,Michigan, and places like that. When
they are asked why they come to Ithacare they normally say that
their children or family are in this community and they want to
spend their golden years with their families.
Mr. Macera stated that he cou-
Mr. Macera stated that in the DEIS
gives very specific figures over an
identifies, not only the state, but
_d answer Mr. Bell's question.
under Resident Origin Studies
extensive period of time that
the townships as well.
Chairperson Smith asked if there was anyone else from the
public that wished to speak tonight. No one spoke.
Attorney Barney stated that the official comment period would
end no earlier than July 28, 1995 if the Public Hearing is closed
at this meeting.
Nancy Frank asked how the Board would determine who the view
belongs to, whether it be to the current landowners, the future
landowners, or to the public.
Attorney Barney responded that the lawsuit was a procedural
question
and was resolved
in
favor
of the
applicants
of
the
lawsuit.
The question Ms.
Frank
has
raised
is really
sort
of
indirectly
the issue that
has
to be
decided
by this Board
is
whether
the impact to the view
is adverse and
whether it
can
be
mitigated
in some fashion.
That
really
does not relate to
who
has
a right to the view.
Board Member
Hoffmann asked
if the
Board Members comments were
to be considered
as part of the
Public
Hearing.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that the issue he had
raised in his memo to the Board was that if Board Members had
specific comments or questions that a Board Member wanted to be
part of the record or to be answered by the applicant, this should
be the time to bring those concerns up before the hearing is
closed. Mr. Kanter stated that tonight's hearing will result in no
specific action, except for closing the hearing and going on with
the process of completing the final environmental impact statement.
The preparation of the Final Environmental Impact Statement should
have a complete record to work from.
Planning Board Minutes 24 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
Town Attorney John Barney stated that if someone has comments
on the Draft EIS that they wish to make they could either make it
now, or within the next ten days, in written form, after closing
the Public Hearing, Attorney Barney stated that if it was a matter
of discussing what was heard tonight and reacting to those
statements, that can not be started until the ten day period is
over.
Town Planner Kanter stated that if there was something that
needs to be addressed specifically in preparation of the Final
Environmental Impact Statement, those points would need to be made
now or within the next ten days.
Board Member Bell stated that there were a number of issues in
the Draft EIS that he would like to discuss with either the
applicant or the consultant. Mr. Bell stated that he did not feel
that now was the appropriate time with further hearings scheduled.
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that she had discussed the
possibility of moving the layout of the building in a different way
and instead of moving it westerly as much as proposed in one of the
alternatives, to move it just slightly. Ms. Hoffmann stated that
she brought a copy of a composite plan, which is in the DEIS, of
steep slopes, soils, wetlands, and waterways. Ms. Hoffmann stated
that on this plan was a layout of the original proposed building
(which is marked in yellow). On top of that layout, Ms. Hoffmann
drew in the alternative B3 layout as indicated in drawings in the
DEIS, (which is marked in green) . Ms. Hoffmann stated that she had
also prepared a cut out of the B3 layout. Ms. Hoffmann stated that
if one were to use the B3 layout and put it on the plan just
slightly west of the B3 proposal, that was received from the
applicant, about 30 feet or the approximate width of the front part
of the building. Ms. Hoffmann stated that she believe that the
applicant could thereby lower the whole building by 6 to 8 feet
without encountering a lot of other problems. Ms. Hoffmann stated
that it would encroach a little more on the steep slopes that the
B3 proposal that is in the DEIS. Ms. Hoffmann stated that she
would like to look at the possibility she had described because she
is wondering if one could not handle the construction on the steep
slopes without much problems and one would gain a widened view and
by lowering the building would make the impact of the building less
disturbing on the view. Ms. Hoffmann stated that she would like
the Board Members to look at her proposal and consider it for this
project.
Board Member Cornell stated that she was not sure this was the
appropriate time to discuss this matter.
Planning Board Minutes 25 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
Board Member Bell stated that it is
part of
determining the
adequacy
that the
of the DEIS regarding the alternatives.
Board already ruled that it was adequate,
Mr. Bell
but that
stated
it did
not mean
that the Board needs to accept
everything
that is
in the
document. Mr. Bell stated that Alternatives were
things that were required under law to consider.
one of the
major
Board Member Cornell stated that tonight's meeting is to
decide whether we have allowed the public enough time to review the
DEIS.
Town Planner Kanter stated that it was more than that.
Kanter stated that it is closing the hearing and preparing
Mr.
the
Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS)
Kanter stated that Ms. Hoffmann has raised a
Board wants to consider it and address it,
the address it. Mr. Kanter stated, if not,
of the public record that it was discussed
for this
question
the FEIS
then it
and the
project. Mr.
which, if the
is the place
could be part
Board decided
not to do that.
Board Member Cornell stated if the Board Members submit their
comments within the next ten days, would those comments be
incorporated into the Final Environmental Impact Statement.
Town Planner Kanter responded, yes,. those comments would be
incorporated into the FEIS.
Board Member Cornell asked what the difference was between the
10 day written comment period and discussing Ms. Hoffmann's
suggestion at this meeting.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that she did not feel that it
needed to be discussed any further now, but that she would like to
bring it up as something that the public should hear and see about
at this Public Hearing and that the Planning Board members,
Planning staff, and the applicant would look into it further,
because she thinks that her proposal would lessen the environmental
impact without having too great an impact on the construction of
the building.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that he thought it would be
prudent to make the suggestion to the applicant and let the
applicant provide a response to Ms. Hoffmann's suggestion, to be
made a part of the FEIS.
Chairperson Smith asked if there were any further comments
regarding the Ithacare Draft Environmental Impact Statement.
Attorney Barney suggested that the Board vote on closing the
Public Hearing.
Planning Board Minutes 26 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
Board Member Bell asked if comments made by Board Members have
to be in writing in order to be considered, because he had found
lots of little typos and some bigger things in the DEIS.
Chairperson Smith stated that substantive things need to be
addressed by the Board.
Attorney Barney stated that when the EIS is finalized, will be
this Board's document, in the course of discussing what the
document is going to look like. Attorney Barney stated that if
there are substantive comments, such as what Ms. Hoffmann. had
raised, it would be wise to put those into some sort of format so
that they are properly addressed and responded to as part of the
FEIS. Attorney Barney stated that this document will probably be
this draft, comments received during the comment period, responses
(either specifically or summarized) to all of those comments, and
then that becomes the Final EIS and from that the Board will derive
some Findings. Attorney Barney stated that the only reason for
suggesting the substantive issues be brought up tonight is because
that can be discussed when the responses to all of the comments
rather than raising a new issue the day before the Board votes on
the document.
Chairperson Smith called for a motion as to whether or not to
close the Public Hearing,
Board Member Herbert Finch made a MOTION to closed the Public
Hearing regarding the proposed Ithacare Draft Environmental Impact
Statement; which was Seconded by Candace Cornell.
There being no further discussion the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Cornell, Hoffmann, Finch, Ainslie, Kenerson, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Attorney Barney stated, in conjunction with the motion just
made, the setting of July 28, 1995, or whatever date the Board
chooses, as the final date for receipt of public comment.
Chairperson Smith asked if anyone were prepared to offer a
motion.
Board Member Candace Cornell made a motion to set the final date
for receipt of written comments on the Draft Environmental Impact
Statement to be no later than July 28, 1995; which was Seconded by
Herbert Finch.
There being no further discussion the Chair called for a vote.
Planning Board Minutes 27 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
Aye - Smith, Cornell, Hoffmann, Finch, Ainslie, Kenerson, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Town Planner Kanter stated that adopting the above -noted
Motions sets the clock in motion for the 'preparation and acceptance
for the Final Environmental Impact Statement; 45 days from the
today unless the Board needs more time, in which case additional
time can requested it.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Smith declared
the matter of the public hearing for the proposed Ithacare Draft
Environmental Impact Statement duly closed at 9:29 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL
SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF A PORTION OF
TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO, 22 -1 -1.30, LOCATED AT 3 EVERGREEN
LANE, FOR CONSOLIDATION WITH TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO, 22 -1 -3,
LOCATED AT 210 DUBOIS ROAD, AND FURTHER, MODIFICATION OF THE
CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE PLANNING BOARD RESOLUTION OF OCTOBER 4,
1988 GRANTING FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL OF THE "POYER CLUSTER
SUBDIVISION" TO ALLOW FOR FURTHER SUBDIVISIONS OF LOTS IN CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES. RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -30. JEFFREY J. AND JODY D.
BORONKAY, OWNERS; ROBERT WHEELER, APPLICANT.
Chairperson Smith declared the Public Hearing for the above -
noted matter duly opened at 9:31 p.m. and read aloud from the
Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted
above.
Robert Wheeler of 210 DuBois Road, addressed the Board and
stated that he wanted to extend his back yard by consolidating a
portion of the property at 3 Evergreen Lane with his property.
Assistant Town
subdivision portion of
the problem being that
the "foyer Cluster Sub
be no further subdivis
Planner George Frantz stated that the
this proposal was fairly straight forward,
in the original Planning Board approval for
division," there was a condition that there
ion of any of the lots.
Attorney Barney stated that he thought that there was either
no parkland or less than the amount required for parkland setaside,
and the condition of no further subdivision was to assure that
there be an ample amount of open space.
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that she had trouble finding
the trail on the map.
Planning Board Minutes 28 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
Assistant Town Planner Frantz stated that the trail was not
included on the map because it is not adjacent to the parcels that
are being subdivided.
There appearing to be no further discussion, Chairperson Smith
asked if anyone were prepared to offer a motion.
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by James Ainslie:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of a portion
of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 22 -1 -1.30, located at 3
Evergreen Lane, for consolidation with Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 22 -1 -3, located at 210 DuBois Road, and further,
modification of the conditions set forth in the Planning Board
resolution of October 4, 1988 granting Final Subdivision
Approval to the "foyer Cluster Subdivision" to allow for
further subdivisions of lots in certain circumstances.
Residence District R -30, Jeffrey J. and Jody D. Boronkay,
Owners; Robert Wheeler, Applicant, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board is legislatively determined to act as Lead
Agency in environmental review with respect. to Subdivision
Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing on July 18, 1995, has
reviewed and accepted as adequate a Short Environmental
Assessment Form Part I submitted by the applicant, and a Part
II prepared by the Town Planning Department, a survey entitled
"Survey Map of a Lot on Evergreen, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins
County, New York," prepared by Howard Schlieder, P.E., L.S.
and dated April 20, 1995, and other application materials, and
4. The Town Planning staff has recommended a negative
determination of environmental significance with respect to
the proposed subdivision;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative
determination of environmental significance in accordance with the
New York State Environmental Quality Review Act for the above
referenced action as proposed and, therefore, an Environmental
Impact Statement will not be required.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Planning Board Minutes
WE
Approved August 15, 1995
Aye - Smith, Cornell, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch,
Nay - None.
July 18, 1995
Kenerson, Bell.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
MOTION by Eva Hoffmann,
WHEREAS:
seconded by Gregory Bell:
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision of a portion
of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 22 -1 -1.30, located at 3
Evergreen Lane, for consolidation with Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 22 -1 -3, located at 210 DuBois Road, and further,
modification of the conditions set forth in the Planning Board
resolution of October 4, 1988 granting Final Subdivision
Approval to the "foyer Cluster Subdivision" to allow for
further subdivisions of lots in certain circumstances.
Residence District R -30. Jeffrey J. and Jody D. Boronkay,
Owners; Robert Wheeler, Applicant, and
2. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on July 18, 1995,
has reviewed and accepted as adequate the Short Environmental
Assessment Form Part I prepared by the applicant, a Part II
prepared by the Town Planning staff, a survey entitled
Survey Map of a Lot on Evergreen, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins
County, New York" prepared by Howard Schlieder, P.E., L.S.
and dated April 20, 1995, and other application materials, and
3. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board, acting as lead agency in environmental review
with respect to Subdivision Approval, has, on July 18, 1995,
made a negative determination of environmental significance.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain
requirements for Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval,
as shown on the Preliminary and Final Subdivision Checklist,
having determined from the materials presented that such
waiver will result in neither a significant alteration of the
purpose of subdivision control nor the policies enunciated or
implied by the Town Board, and
2. That the
Town of Ithaca
Planning Board
hereby
consents
to
amending
Paragraph 4 of
the "Declaration
of
Restrictive
Page 818, to allow the
Covenants"
for the " Poyer Cluster
Subdivision" for which Final
Subdivision
Approval was granted by the Planning Board on
October
1989 at
4,
the
1988, dated April 28,
County Clerk's Office
1989, and recorded May 17,
in Liber 33 of Miscellaneous
Records
at
Page 818, to allow the
subdivision as proposed, and
Planning Board Minutes 30 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
3. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final
Approval for the proposed subdivision of 0.248 + acres from
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 22 -1 -1.30, located at 3
Evergreen Lane, for consolidation with Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No. 22 -1 -3, located at 210 Duboise Road, as shown on
the survey entitled "Survey Map of a Lot on Evergreen, Town of
Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York" prepared by Howard
Schlieder, P.E., L.S. and dated April 20, 1995, and other
application materials, subject to the following condition(s) :
a. Submission of the required Surveyor's Certificate signed
and sealed by the applicant's surveyor prior to signing
of the approved plat by the Planning Board Chair;
b. Submission of the original or mylar copy, and four (4)
copies of the plat to be signed by the Planning Board
Chair prior to filing in the County Clerk's Office,
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED
That the Planning Board hereby approves the modification of
Paragraph 4 of the "Declaration of Restrictive Covenants" for
the "foyer Cluster Subdivision" for which Final Subdivision
Approval was granted by the Planning Board on October 4, 1988,
dated April 28, 1989 and recorded May 17, 1989 at the County
Clerk's Office in Liber 33 of Miscellaneous Records at Page
818, to allow subdivisions of properties within the
subdivision in those instances where such subdivision involves
only the modification of lot lines between adjoining parcels
of land, and no creation of additional lots, for building or
any other purposes would result, conditioned upon Town Board
approval of such modification.
Attorney Barney suggested the following three modifications to
the proposed resolution:
1. That a new 3.c. be added as follows:
C, The 248 acre parcel be conveyed only to the owner of Tax
Parcel No. 22 -1 -3 and that such owner take all necessary
steps to consolidate such .248 acre parcel with said Tax
Parcel No. 22 -1 -3.
2. The modification of the Declarations of Restrictive Covenants
requires Town Board approval because they approved the
declarations of the original approval. Attorney Barney stated
that a third "And be it further resolved" needed to be added
as follows:
Planning Board Minutes 31 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED
That the Planning Board hereby recommend to the Town Board
that it approve the modification to the above - referenced
"Declaration of Restrictive Covenants" to allow subdivision of
properties within the "Poyer Cluster Subdivision ".
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Smith, Cornell, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Smith declared the matter of Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval for 3 Evergreen Lane /210 DuBois Road duly
closed at 9:40 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE ECO VILLAGE COHOUSING COOPERATIVE,
PROPOSED,TO CONSIST OF 30 DWELLING UNITS IN 15 DUPLEXES, A COMMON
HOUSE AND OTHER SITE IMPROVEMENTS, AND LOCATED OFF MECKLENBURG ROAD
(ROUTE 79) JUST WEST OF WEST HAVEN ROAD, SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT
(SLUD). ECO VILLAGE AT ITHACA, INC., OWNER; FIRST RESIDENTS'
GROUP, APPLICANT; HOUSE CRAFT BUILDERS, AGENTS.
Chairperson Smith declared the Public Hearing in the above -
noted matter duly opened at 9:42 p.m. and read aloud from the
Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted
above.
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that one of the plants listed
to be used on the site was the current, and it used to be that any
of the Rhebus family plants could not be planted where there were
White Pines because both plants would be needed as co -hosts for
insects which would kill both plants eventually, and asked if the
applicants were aware of that.
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that it depended on the
proximity of the two plants.
Board Member Hoffmann stated that the applicants may want to
check into that and omit the plants from that family.
Board Member Gregory Bell stated that Utility Plan notes a gas
main asked if there was going to be 5 meters or 30 meters.
Planning Board Minutes 32 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
Jerry Weisburd stated that. there would be five meters. Mr.
Weisburd stated that they intended to bring the gas line in along
the emergency access road instead of along the entrance road
because it reduces the amount of gas main by approximately 800
feet, and there is someone on the existing access that has a house
and is willing to share the cost with the First Residents' Group to
have gas service to his house.
Board
Member Bell asked
if
gas would be used to heat the
buildings
before the alternative
energy ideas are implemented.
Mr. Weisburd stated that each single meter goes to an energy
center, and in that energy center there would be a district heating
plant that heats six or eight houses. Mr. Weisburd stated that the
equipment runs more efficiently that way, and if they want to
switch to a biomass fuel, it can be done more easily.
Board Member Bell asked if, at this point, they were going to
be heated by gas.
Mr. Weisburd responded that they would be heating with gas.
,
Town Attorney John Barney asked if five of six houses would
share the cost because there would be no separate metering system.
Mr. Weisburd stated that there would be separate metering,
which would be administered by the cooperative as part of the
maintenance cost.
Board Member Cornell stated that the houses were going to be
super- insulated.
Mr. Weisburd stated that Ms. Cornell was correct and that the
anticipated annual heating bill is $125.00 to $150.00.
Board Member Bell asked, referring to drawing AF3, what the
exterior building material would be.
Mr. Weisburd stated that the drawings were meant only to
supplement what had been submitted- earlier, and there were
specification and cross - section in the set of amended drawings
provided to the Town at an earlier date. Mr. Weisburd stated that
the exterior building materials would be either wood siding,
horizontal bevelled siding, or wood composite horizontal bevelled
siding, vertical board and batten siding, fiberglass reinforced
asphalt shingles, except the steep roofs which are all metal roofs
designed to accept solar panels. Mr. Weisburd stated that where
there are cedar poles and there would be PVC pipe to hold the
shades.
Planning Board Minutes
33 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
Town Attorney John Barney stated that the First Residents'
Group had requested that they be allowed to construct the carports
ahead of time. Attorney Barney stated that the SLUD is very
specific, so the Planning Board would recommend that the Town Board
or the Zoning Board of Appeals that permission be granted to do
that. Attorney Barney stated that the Planning Board does not have
legal authority to grant permission to start construction contrary
to what the SLUD is specifying.
Town Planner
resolution shows a
to revise the SLUD
from the SLUD prov
ahead of schedule.
Jonathan Kanter stated that the proposed
recommendation of either going to the Town Board
or to the Zoning Board of Appeals for a variance
isions to get permission to start the carports
Board Member Cornell asked why they wanted to construct the
carports first.
Town Attorney Barney stated that they had submitted a memo
which said that it would be helpful for them, instead of building
the houses first and then attaching a carport to it, and they
wished to use the carports to store and protect the building
materials. Attorney Barney stated that the SLUD specifically
states no Building Permits for any structures will be issued until
certain things occur.
Ms. Weisburd stated that
the SLUD reads
that there will
be no
Building Permits issued until
certain conditions
are met, and
the
only condition that she feels
that would be
pending would be
"b ",
which says "Construction of the road to the
extent of creating
a
usable, serviceable base."
Ms. Weisburd stated that they
would
create a useable, serviceable
base right away in order to get
into
and out of the site.
Attorney Barney stated that if they feel that they felt that
they meet the requirements set forth in the SLUD, then no
permission is needed for the construction of the carport, but if
they do not meet the requirements the Planning Board does not have
the authority to waive that process.
Chairperson Smith asked if anyone were prepared to offer a
motion.
Planning Board Minutes 34 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by Gregory Bell
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the Consideration of Final Site Plan Approval
for the proposed development of the Eco Village Cohousing
Cooperative, to be located on a portion of Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel 28 -1 -26.2 designated Parcel B on the Eco Village
subdivision map given final approval by this board at its
meeting on June 27, 1995, which parcel is to be conveyed to
the First Residents Group and which project is proposed to
consist of 30 dwelling units in 15 duplexes, a Common House,
+/- 4,800 linear feet of roads and driveways, parking for 52
+/- vehicles and other site improvements; Special Land Use
District (SLUD) and Residence District R -30; Eco Village at
Ithaca, Inc. Owner; First Residents Group, Applicant; House
Craft Builders, Agent, and
2. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on April 18,
1995, granted Preliminary Site Plan Approval with conditions
for the proposed Eco Village Cohousing Cooperative, and
3. This
is a Type
I Action for which the Town of
Ithaca Planning
Board,
acting
as Lead Agency in environmental
review, has, on
April
18, 1995,
made a negative determination
of environmental
significance,
and
4. The Town of Ithaca Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on
July 18, 1995, has reviewed and accepted as adequate drawings
prepared by House Craft Builders numbered and labeled AF1
Final Site Plan - Whole Neighborhood, dated June 14, 1995,
revised July 5, 1995, AF2 Grading and Drainage Plan - Whole
Neighborhood, AF3 Elevations - Neighborhood North Section, AF4
Miscellaneous Drawings - Whole Neighborhood, (includes
drawings: Cut /Fill, Soils, Erosion Control, Utilities Plan,
Pond Profiles @ Section D - F, each dated June 14, 1995 and
Drawings prepared by T.G. Miller P.C. Engineers and Surveyors
entitled: Final Plat, Dated May 19, 1995, signed by Allen T.
Fulkerson, Licensed Land Surveyor, Main Roadway Plan & Profile
Sheets C01, CO2 and CO3, Emergency Roadway Plan & Profile
Sheets CO4, CO5, CO6, Sanitary Sewer Main Plan & Profile
Sheets CO7, CO8, Water Line Plan CO9, Roadway Cross Sections
Sheets C10, C111 C12, C13, C14, Typical Details Sheet D01 and
D03, Detail Sheet D02, Pump Station Site Plan and Details
Sheet D04, Culvert Plan and Detail D05 all dated June 16,
1995, and other application materials.
Planning Board Minutes 35 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby grants final site
plan approval for the plans referred to in paragraph 4 above
subject to the following conditions:
1. Submission to and approval by the appropriate Town
authorities, of all of the items marked as "condition of
approval," as set forth on the copy of the final site plan
checklist attached to this resolution, including:
a. Record of application for and approval status of all
necessary permits from county, state, and /or federal
agencies. Submit copies of all permits or approvals so
granted.
b. Record of approval for the water and sewer connection by
the County Health Department and by the Town Engineer.
C, Submission of final construction documents including
drawings and specifications for approval by the Town
Engineer.
d. Original or mylar copy of the final site plan to be
retained by the Town of Ithaca.
2. Submission of proof from the County Clerk's Office of filing
of the Final Subdivision Plat that was approved by the
Planning Board on June 27, 1995.
3. In accordance
with the local law establishing the Special
Land
Use District,
no building permit shall
be issued for
the
construction
of any structures within
the Special Land
Use
District until
the following actions
have occurred,
that
include, but
are not limited to, the following
as outlined in
Section 3, sub - section J and sub - section K:
a. Marketable title,
satisfactory
to the Town Attorney, has
been obtained
to
the
entrance
road.
b. Construction of the entrance road is completed to the
extent of providing, in the opinion of both the Town
Engineer and Town Highway Superintendent, a useable,
serviceable base for ingress and egress of emergency and
service vehicles.
Planning Board Minutes 36 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
C. Submission to, and approval by, the Town Planning Board,
upon advice of the Attorney for the Town, copies of any
cooperative proprietary leases, condominium or homeowners
association documents, or other agreements among property
owners containing suitable provisions to assure
maintenance of the road to a standard which will allow
unimpeded passage of emergency vehicles at all times and
all seasons.
d. A sign is posted at the intersection of the private road
and Route 79 indicating that the road is not a Town Road.
4. In accordance with the local law establishing the Special Land
Use District, no certificates of occupancy shall be issued and
no permits shall be issued for the construction of more than
ten dwelling units within the Special Land Use District until
the following actions have occurred, that include, but are not
limited to, the following as outlined in Section 3, sub-
section K -2.:
a. The entrance road has been completed in accordance with
the applicable Town of Ithaca highway specifications
except if the specifications require paving, the paving
may be omitted.
b. Adequate access, in the opinion of the Town Engineer and
Town Highway Superintendent has been constructed and
completed for fire and other emergency vehicles from the
terminus of the road as so constructed to the dwelling or
other
structure for which a certificate of occupancy is
requested.
5. Approval by the Attorney for the Town of marketable title and
easement for the emergency access road before issuance of
Building Permits for any structure, and in addition,
compliance with the following in accordance with Section 3,
sub - section L. 1 & 2.:
a. In accordance with the local law establishing the Special
Land Use District, no certificates of occupancy shall be
issued within the Special Land Use District until the
construction of a road with a surface at least ten feet
wide over the easement running from West Haven Road is
completed in a manner to provide an adequate road, as
determined by the Town Engineer and the Town Highway
Superintendent, for emergency vehicles access including
fire truck and emergency medical vehicles sufficient to
provide year round access for emergency vehicles.
Planning Board Minutes 37 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
b. Submission to, and approval by, the Town Planning Board,
upon advice of the Attorney for the Town, copies of any
cooperative proprietary leases, condominium or homeowners
association documents, or other agreements among property
owners containing suitable provisions to assure
maintenance of the road to a standard which will allow
unimpeded passage of emergency vehicles at all times and
all seasons.
6. Elimination of the Cul -de -Sac no later than six years from the
date of issuance of the first Certificate of Occupancy with
the construction of an internal loop road and construction of
a divided road to provide two means of access to and from
public roads or construction of a secondary access road to
assure that no dwelling is more than 1200 feet from a point
providing two means of access to and from public roads, built
to Town specifications, subject to approval by the Planning
Board for a modified site plan.
7. All the open space shown on the site plan will be owned,
maintained and controlled by the residents association or duly
formed cooperative housing corporation for the purpose of
recreation or agriculture for the residents of the Special
Land Use District,
8. No certificates of occupancy will be issued, and no permits
for construction of more than ten dwelling units within the
Special Land Use District shall be issued until all Provisions
of Sewer Facilities as listed in the local law for the Special
Land Use District Section 3, sub - section R. have been met.
9. No certificates
of occupancy
will
be issued, and
no permits
for construction
of more than ten
dwelling
units
within
the
Special Land Use
District shall
be
issued
until all
Provisions
Special Land use
of Adequate Water
Facilities
as listed
permit shall
in the local law
for
the Special Land
Use District
Section 3,
sub - section
S.
have
been met.
10. Any change in the site plan as finally approved by the Town
Planning Board shall not be made until an application for a
modification of site plan is provided to and approved by the
Planning Board,
11. Unless work has materially commenced
in accordance with
the
final site plan
within one year of the issuance of
the
building permit,
or within thirty -six months of the date
of
final approval by
the Planning Board,
or within four years
of
the effective date of Local Law No.
1 for the Year 1995
establishing this
Special Land use
District, whichever
is
earlier, any building
permit shall
lapse, the site plan
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approval shall expire and the zoning change effected by the
local law shall terminate and the zoning shall revert to that
in effect prior to the adoption of the local law in accordance
with Section 4. of the local law entitled'Reversion.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
That the Planning Board finds a reduction in the required number of
parking spaces will not adversely affect traffic flow on the
proposed site, will leave adequate parking for all of the
reasonably anticipated uses or occupancies on the site, and will
not otherwise adversely affect the general welfare of the community
and accordingly such Board hereby authorizes the minimum number of
parking spaces to be reduced by 25% thereby requiring there be
shown 52 spaces. The reduction permitted by this resolution is
subject to the following conditions:
a. The conditions permitting increasing the required number
of parking spaces set forth in the Zoning Ordinance
provisions relating to business district parking
reductions.
b. There be .left adequate space in the vicinity of the
parking lots for increasing the number of parking spaces
to the minimum normally required in the event the
Planning Board finds such increase is necessary after
experience is obtained from the number of parking spaces
authorized by this resolution.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:
That the Planning Board recommends to the Zoning Board of
Appeals and /or the Town Board that, not withstanding the conditions
set forth above and the terms of the Special Land Use District
legislation, the developer be allowed to construct accessory
carports and be granted Building Permits for same, prior to the
completion of the entrance roads.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Bell.
Nay - None.
Excused - Cornell.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
Chairperson Smith declared the matter of Final Site Plan
approval for the proposed Eco Village Cohousing Cooperative duly
closed at 10:00 p.m.
Planning Board Minutes 39 July 18, 1995
Approved August 15, 1995
AGENDA ITEM: APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JUNE 20, 1995.
There was no action
the Board had not had an
on the Minutes of June
appropriate amount of
20,
time
1995, because
to review the
draft provided to them
prior to the meeting.
The
minutes were
tabled until the August
1, 1995, Planning Board
Meeting,
AGENDA ITEM: OTHER BUSINESS.
Board Member Gregory Bell stated that there was some
discussion at the meeting of June 27, 1995, while dealing with the
Classen's Home Health modifications to the "Old 100" building. Mr.
Bell stated that there was some people on the Board that were
focusing on the historic preservation aspects of it. Mr. Bell
stated that he thinks that the issue raises that the Board should
look at the whole issue of historic preservation legislation and
make sure that issue does not come up blindsiding the Board that
way ever again. Mr. Bell stated that this issue had been lost in
the shuffle of other priorities because the Town of Ithaca does not
have a huge number of historic buildings, but it has some fairly
significant ones and the "Old 100" is one of them. Mr. Bell stated
that he did not know what the process was to get things proactively
on the agenda for discussion. Mr. Bell stated that it seems that
the Board is forced by urgency of applicants proposals to review
them quickly. Mr. Bell stated that there is no procedure at all to
protect the historic buildings in the Town of Ithaca. Mr. Bell
stated, for the record, that he is totally convinced that there is
going to be significant damage to that building because of the Code
requirements, and the Classen's don't know it.
Board Member James Ainslie stated that to do that one would
have to think far enough ahead to protect that area, and not allow
the City of Ithaca to put a bus garage with 40 buses going around
that corner twice a day, and the County Highway Department and all
their heavy equipment to drive through the protected area.
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that it is because things
like that have happened in the past that it is important to come up
with some legislation for the future.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that Historic Ithaca has
offered to help the town to work on a basic survey of historic
structures. Mr. Kanter stated that if the town could have some
assistance in developing an inventory of historic properties with
members of town staff, then at least there is a base of information
available to make some decisions on what to do.
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Approved August 15, 1995
ADJOURNMENT
Upon MOTION, Chairperson
Meeting of the Town of Ithaca
at 10:38 p.m.
7/27/95.
Smith declared
the
July
18,
1995,
Planning Board
to be
duly
adjourned
Respectfully submitted,
>�J � ` ' Z V
Starr Hays,
Recording Secretary,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board,
Mary Bryant,
Administrative Secretary.