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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
MARCH 21, 1995
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TOWN OF ITHACA
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The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday, March 21, 1995, in Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street,
Ithaca, New York, at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairperson Stephen Smith, Robert Kenerson, Eva Hoffmann,
Gregory Bell, James Ainslie, Herbert Finch, Candace
Cornell, Fred Wilcox, Jonathan Kanter (Town Planner) ,
Daniel Walker (Town Engineer), John Barney (Town
Attorney).
ALSO PRESENT: Bill Hilker, Attorney Bill Seldin, Attorney Bruce
Wilson, Sally Schultz, Patricia Classen, Elizabeth
Classen, Michael Herzing,
Chairperson Smith declared the meeting duly opened at 7:30
p.m. and accepted for the record the Secretary's Affidavit of
Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public Hearings in Town
Hall and.the Ithaca Journal on March 13, 1995 and March 15, 1995.
Chairperson Smith read the Fire Exit Regulations to those
assembled, as required by the New York State Department of State,
Office of Fire Prevention and Control.
AGENDA ITEM: PERSONS TO BE HEARD.
There were no persons to be heard. Chairperson Smith closed
this segment of the meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION
AMENDING THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE FOR THE
EXTINGUISHMENT OF SUBDIVISION APPROVALS OF ABANDONED SUBDIVISIONS.
Chairperson Smith declared the Public Hearing in the above -
noted matter duly opened at 7:35 p.m. and read aloud from the
Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted
above.
At 7:36 p.m, it was determined to hold the Public Hearing open
until Attorney Barney was prepared to give a presentation on the
proposed amendment to the Subdivision Regulations.
AGENDA ITEM: APPROVAL OF MINUTES - FEBRUARY 28, 1995.
MOTION by Robert Kenerson, seconded by Herbert Finch:
RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning
Board Meeting of February 28, 1995, be and hereby are approved as
written.
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There being no further discussion,
March 21, 1995
the Chair called for a
Aye - Smith, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
Abstain - Hoffmann.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
AGENDA ITEM: APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MARCH 7, 1995.
MOTION by Eva Hoffmann, seconded by Herbert Finch:
RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning
Board Meeting of March 7, 1995, be and hereby are approved with the
following corrections:
2. That at the top of Page 8 it read: "The MOTION was
declared to be carried unanimously."
There were two abstentions, so this was changed to read: "The
MOTION was declared to be carried."
3. That on Page 13, Last Paragraph, which read: "Board
Member Fred Wilcox addressed the Board and stated that he had
visited the site on Sunday and sat in his car and watched the cars
come down Route 96 over the crest of the road..."
This was changed to read: "Board Member Fred Wilcox addressed
the Board and stated that he had visited the site on Sunday and sat
in his car and watched the cars come up Route 96 over the crest of
the road..."
4. That on Page 25, Paragraph 4, which read: "Mr. Kanter
stated that there was a set time for gml County review,..."
This was changed to read: "Mr. Kanter stated that there was
a set time for General Municipal Law (GML) County review,..."
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
• The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
1.
That on Page 7, Paragraph 8, which read: "The Planning
Board
decided not to require the subdivision and sale of
the access
strip
as
a condition of approval."
This
was changed to read: "The Planning Board
discussed
whether
or not to require the subdivision and sale of
the access
strip
as
a condition of approval."
2. That at the top of Page 8 it read: "The MOTION was
declared to be carried unanimously."
There were two abstentions, so this was changed to read: "The
MOTION was declared to be carried."
3. That on Page 13, Last Paragraph, which read: "Board
Member Fred Wilcox addressed the Board and stated that he had
visited the site on Sunday and sat in his car and watched the cars
come down Route 96 over the crest of the road..."
This was changed to read: "Board Member Fred Wilcox addressed
the Board and stated that he had visited the site on Sunday and sat
in his car and watched the cars come up Route 96 over the crest of
the road..."
4. That on Page 25, Paragraph 4, which read: "Mr. Kanter
stated that there was a set time for gml County review,..."
This was changed to read: "Mr. Kanter stated that there was
a set time for General Municipal Law (GML) County review,..."
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
• The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
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Chairperson Smith reopened the Public Hearing for
CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTIONS OF A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE SUBDIVISION
REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE FOR THE EXTINGUISHMENT OF SUBDIVISION
APPROVALS OF ABANDONED SUBDIVISIONS at 7:46 p.m.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter addressed the Board and stated
that there had been revisions made to the proposed resolution based
on the discussion at the February 28, 1995 Planning Board Meeting.
Mr. Kanter stated that Attorney Barney had made the revisions to
the proposals which was given to the Board for this meeting.
(Proposed amendment to the Subdivision Regulations to Provide for
the Extinguishment of Subdivision Approvals of Abandoned
Subdivisions is attached hereto as Exhibit #1)
Mr. Kanter stated that the time frame was changed from three
years as proposed in the draft presented at the February Meeting,
to ten years was requested by the Board at that same meeting.
Attorney Barney stated that a definition of "significant
hardship" was included on Page 2.
Mr. Kanter stated that the draft presented tonight gave
additional wording to determine whether or not there were
significant changes in the zoning, subdivision, and /or
environmental standards.
Board Member Fred Wilcox addressed the Board and asked, for
the record, a subdivision that was approved 10 or more years ago
would not be effected by this law for another 10 years.
Attorney Barney stated that Mr. Wilcox's statement was
correct.
Mr. Wilcox stated, for the record, that he was unhappy that
the Board could not do anything about the older subdivisions any
sooner than 10 years from the time this change goes into effect.
Ms. Hoffmann stated that she did not think that the Planning
Board had made a decision about that yet, but that there had been
discussion.
Attorney Barney asked if
his
recollection was correct of a
straw vote
among the Board members
to determine what time frame was
wanted by
Board was
the Board
the Planning Board,
for a 10 year time
could change that
and the will of the majority of the
frame. Attorney Barney stated that
time frame if they wanted at this
meeting, and if they chose
additional Public Hearing.
to do
so, the matter would need an
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Mr. Wilcox stated that his comment was not
time frame. Mr. Wilcox stated that his
subdivisions that have been there for 30 years
years. Mr. Wilcox stated that he would like 1
older abandoned subdivisions now.
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against the 10 year
concern was the
now have another 10
:o take care of the
Attorney Barney stated that
the Board could
said in
the form
of "an existing subdivision has
10 years from the
date
of its,
approval or 4 years (or what ever amount of time
the Board feels
adequate) from the adoption of
this amendment,
which
ever is
later." Attorney Barney stated
that the Board
could
make the
transition period less than 10 years.
Chairperson Smith asked
if there
was anyone else
that felt
that the time frame should be
shortened
from the 10 years
proposed.
Chairperson Smith stated that
he could
see the advantage
of putting
in a shorter time frame for
existing
subdivision approvals, but
that he was not sure if it were fair.
Attorney Barney stated that he thought that the draft
accurately reflected what the consensus of the Board wanted.
Attorney Barney stated that the Board could modify the amendment,
but if it were modified significantly, there would be the need for
another Public Hearing.
Board Member James Ainslie stated that if the Board leaves it
the way it is at this meeting that no one would feel discriminated
against.
Board Member Gregory Bell stated that he did not have a
problem with 10 years because it makes everyone even. Mr. Bell
stated that no one would feel discriminated against. Mr. Bell
stated that the amendment was directed at a handful of subdivisions
anyway.
James Ainslie stated
that
the subdivider
must
still be paying
taxes on the property, or
they
would
not
have
the
land.
Chairperson
Smith noted
that
this
was a Public Hearing and
asked if anyone
from the public
wished
to speak.
Bill Hilker addressed the Board and stated that he strongly
opposed the amendment and that he had made his comments at the last
meeting.
Chairperson Smith stated that there was no one else present to
be heard and closed the Public Hearing.
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MOTION by Herbert Finch,
5 March 21, 1995
seconded by Gregory Bell
WHEREAS, this action is the adoption of a resolution amending the
Town of Ithaca Subdivision Regulations to Provide for
Extinguishment of Subdivision Approvals of Abandoned Subdivisions
by adding a new Article VII, Section 39; and
WHEREAS, this is an unlisted action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board is legislatively determined to act as Lead Agency in
environmental review with respect to the adoption or amendment of
the Town's Subdivision Regulations; and
WHEREAS, The Town Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on March
21, 1995, has reviewed and accepted as adequate the Short
Environmental Assessment Form, Parts I and II for this action;
RESOLVED, that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a
negative determination of environmental significance in accordance
with the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act for the
above - referenced action as proposed and, therefore, neither a Full
Environmental Assessment Form, nor an Environmental Impact
Statement will be required.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Wilcox, Kenerson, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Board Member Gregory Bell stated that the input from the
public that spoke at the last meeting had changed the minds of some
of the Board Members to use 10 years as the time frame in the
provision.
MOTION by Eva Hoffmann, seconded by Candace Cornell
BE IT RESOLVED that the
Subdivision
Regulations for
the Town
of
Ithaca as adopted by the Town Planning Board on March 24, 1956
approved by the Town Board on March 24, 1956, as amended by
Planning Board on several subsequent occasions, the most recent
being March 2, 1993, as approved by the Town Board on March
1993, be further amended by adding a new Article VII, Section
reading as follows:
and
the
8,
39,
"ARTICLE VII
• EXPIRATION OF SUBDIVISION APPROVAL
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Section 39. Expiration of Subdivision Approval.
1. In addition to any other provisions of law governing expiration of subdivision approvals,
including those provisions which provide the subdivision approval expires if the approved
subdivision map is not filed with the Tompkins County Clerk within a specified time of approval,
a subdivision approval will also terminate under the circumstances set forth below.
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2. If the proposed subdivision requires construction of any facilities such as roads, drainage courses,
water or sewer lines, or other similar facilities, unless within ten years of the date the Planning
Board gave final subdivision approval
(a) work has materially commenced on such facilities in accordance with the finally approved
subdivision plat, or
(b) one or more lots have been transferred from the developer and the deeds for same duly
recorded in the Tompkins County Clerk's Office,
the subdivision approval (both final and preliminary) shall expire and the permissible uses and
construction on the property shall revert to those that would otherwise be in effect in the absence
of such subdivision approval. Notwithstanding the foregoing, if final subdivision approval was
granted prior to April 1, 1995, the time for work to materially commence or lots to be sold shall
be extended to April 1, 2005.
3. For the purposes of this Section 39
(a) work will not have "materially commenced" unless, at a minimum, (i) a building permit,
if required, has been obtained for at least one structure in the subdivision; and (ii)
construction equipment and tools consistent with the size of the proposed work have been
brought to and been used on the site; and (iii) significant construction of roads or
utilities, or significant framing, erection, or construction of a material structure, has been
started and is being diligently pursued; and
(b) a lot will not have been "transferred" unless conveyed by a deed, duly executed and
recorded in the Tompkins County Clerk's Office, to (i) a person unrelated to the
subdivider in a bona fide transaction for value, or (ii) a person related to the subdivider
or for less than reasonable value in accordance with circumstances related to the Planning
Board as part of the subdivision approval (e.g. a subdivision where the intention is to
convey a lot to a relative or to convey a lot to an adjacent landowner for less than full
value).
4. If the proposed subdivision does not require the construction of any facilities, the subdivision
approval (both final and preliminary) shall expire within the time limits set forth above with the
consequences set forth above and subject to the ability to obtain extensions as set forth below,
unless at least one lot of the subdivision has been transferred.
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5. In addition to the foregoing, a subdivision approval for a subdivision requiring construction of
facilities shall likewise terminate as to any untransferred lots in the event that the facilities are
not substantially completed within ten years of the date of final subdivision approval.
6. The Planning Board, upon request of the subdivider, after a public hearing, may extend the time
limits for such additional periods and upon such conditions as the Planning Board may reasonably
determine. An application for such extension may be made at the time of filing of the original
application or at any time thereafter up to, but no later than, six months after the expiration of
the time limits set forth above. The Planning Board shall grant the request for such extension
if the Board finds:
(a) The imposition of the time limits set forth above in paragraphs 2, 4 and 5 would create
significant hardship on the subdivider; and
(b) There has not been a significant change in zoning, subdivision, engineering,
environmental, or other relevant review requirements or standards since the initial
approval or any subsequently granted extensions.
For the purposes of this section, a "significant hardship" includes, but is not limited to
(i) a significant economic loss that the subdivider would suffer if an extension were
not granted; or
(ii) the subdivider's inability to timely proceed because of
(A) a generally adverse economic climate, or
(B) the subdivider's own economic circumstances have changed
detrimentally, or
(C) an adverse event or events in the subdivider's personal affairs.
7. In the event of any termination of subdivision approval pursuant to these provisions, the Planning
Board or Town Planner shall cause a notice of such termination to be delivered personally to the
subdivider, or forwarded by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the subdivider at the last
address for the subdivider on file at the Town of Ithaca Planning Department and shall cause a
copy of such notice, together with an affidavit of service (personally or by mail) to be recorded
in the Tompkins County Clerk's Office in Miscellaneous Records or other appropriate location.
8. Any subdivider who believes the termination of approval pursuant to this section is not warranted
may file an application for a hearing before the Planning Board. Such application shall be filed
within 30 days of the delivery of the notice referred to above (for this purpose "delivery" shall
be deemed to occur on the date the notice is personally delivered or the day it is delivered to the
postal service for mailing). The Planning Board shall hold a public hearing on such application
on at least five days prior notice given in the same manner as required for public hearings on
subdivision approvals, within 60 days of receipt such application. The burden of establishing that
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the approval should not be terminated shall rest upon the applicant. If the Planning Board
determines that the approval was improperly terminated, it shall render a decision so stating and
shall cause a notice to that effect to be forwarded to the Tompkins County Clerk's Office for
recording in the same location as the notice previously effecting such termination. Any
determination of the Planning Board regarding such termination may be reviewed by a proceeding
brought pursuant to Article 78 of the Civil Procedure Law and Rules. Such proceeding shall be
commenced no later than 30 days after the decision being reviewed has been filed by the Planning
Board with the appropriate Town Clerk.
9. Nothing in this section 39 is intended to
alter the effect
of Town Law Section 265 -a on lots in
a subdivision when
zoning is changed
to increase lot
sizes or other requirements thereby
rendering an existing
subdivision's lots non - conforming.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this amendment to the Subdivision Regulations take
effect upon approval of same by the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Bell, Kenerson, Cornell.
Nay - None.
Abstain - Wilcox.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Board Member Fred wilcox stated that he agreed with the concept and that he expressed
his concerns earlier.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Smith declared the consideration of the
extinguishment of subdivision approvals of abandoned subdivisions duly closed.
OTHER BUSINESS.
1. Wal -Mart - Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that the Planning Board
Members was provided with a copy of the letter addressed to David Kay of the City of Ithaca
Planning and Development Board, and dated March 7, 1995, which was signed by Chairperson
Smith. Mr. Kanter stated that the letter incorporated the comments that were made by the
Planning Board at the February 28, 1995 meeting. (The above - referenced letter is attached
hereto as Exhibit #2)
2. Eco Village - Mr. Kanter stated that the Board also received copies of a letter to
Jerold Weisburd of House Craft Builders, which indicated the remaining material needed for Eco
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Village to come to the Board on April 4, 1995. Mr. Kanter stated that all of the material had
not been received as of this day.
Board Member Fred Wilcox stated that it was a good letter, forceful but stating that the
Town wants to be cooperative and work with them.
Board Member Gregory Bell stated that it was a good letter and asked what had prompted
it.
Mr. Kanter stated that it was because of the discussion at the last meeting regarding the
time frames for submission of materials prior to the subsequent meeting, and we still had these
things missing, and wanted it to be on record.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION
AMENDING THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO MODIFY THE PROVISIONS FOR
PARKLAND RESERVATIONS AND PAYMENT IN LIEU OF SAME, AND
CONSIDERATION OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TOWN BOARD ON 1)ENACTING
A LOCAL LAW AMENDING THE TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE TO
PROVIDE FOR OPEN SPACE RESERVATIONS IN MULTIPLE RESIDENCE DISTRICTS,
AND 2)ENACTING A LOCAL LAW AMENDING TOWN OF ITHACA LOCAL LAW
NUMBER 10 FOR THE YEAR 1994 TO ESTABLISH AMOUNTS TO BE PAID IN LIEU OF
OPEN SPACE RESERVATIONS IN ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
Chairperson Smith declared the Public Hearing in the above -noted matter duly opened
at 8:00 p.m. and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as
noted above.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that in the Public Hearing Notice all three items
were listed, but that the Subdivision Regulation amendment to modify the existing provisions for
parkland reservations and payment in lieu of same. Mr. Kanter stated that the other two items
would be recommendations to the Town Board and the Town Board would be holding Public
Hearings on those two items on April 10, 1995. Mr. Kanter stated that since they were all
related to one another, they were advertised under one uniform heading for the Public Hearing.
Mr. Kanter stated that the rewording of the Subdivision Regulations was to comply with the new
conditions of New York State legislation, which put in some additional requirements that
Planning Boards must consider in requiring open space reservations.
Town Attorney Barney addressed the Board and stated that the Commission on Rural
Resources is a body that has undertaken to rewrite a lot of the New York State zoning and
planning legislation for a number of types of municipalities. Attorney Barney stated that they
rewrote the portion of the Town Law which relates to open space and to bring it into conformity
with a number of cases which held at the top court of the State that a Board can not demand a
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park unless you determine there is a need for a park by virtue of what that subdivider is doing.
Attorney Barney stated that language has now been implemented in a statute by the legislature
and the Town has carried it into the subdivision regulations proposal. Attorney Barney stated
that in Paragraph 3, the Planning Board has to make a finding that there is a proper case for
requiring a park.
Mr. Kanter distributed copies of the rewritten Section 277 of the Town Law to each of
the Planning Board Members. (Attached hereto as Exhibit #3)
Chairperson Smith noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if anyone from the
public wished to speak. No one spoke. Chairperson Smith closed the Public Hearing and
brought the matter back to the Board for further discussion.
There being no further discussion, the Chair asked if anyone were prepared to offer a
motion.
MOTION by Candace Cornell, seconded by Eva Hoffmann:
WHEREAS, this action is the adoption of a resolution amending the Town of Ithaca Subdivision
Al Regulations to Modify the Provisions for Parkland Reservations and Payment in Lieu of Same
by amending Article IV, Section 22; and
WHEREAS, this is an unlisted action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is
legislatively determined to act as Lead Agency in environmental review with respect to the
adoption or amendment of the Town's Subdivision Regulations; and
WHEREAS, The Town Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on March 21, 1995, has
reviewed and accepted as adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form, Parts I and II for
this action;
RESOLVED, that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination
of environmental significance in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality
Review Act for the above - referenced action as proposed and, therefore, neither a Full
Environmental Assessment Form, nor an Environmental Impact Statement will be required.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell,
Cornell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
• MOTION by Fred Wilcox, seconded by Eva Hoffmann:
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BE IT RESOLVED that the Subdivision Regulations for the Town of Ithaca as adopted by the
Town Planning Board on March 24, 1956 and approved by the Town Board on March 24, 1956,
as amended by the Planning Board on several subsequent occasions, the most recent being March
21, 1995, pending approval by the Town Board, be further amended by amending Section 22
thereof to read as follows:
Section 22. Reservations of Parks and Recreational Land.
1. Before the Planning Board may approve a subdivision plat containing residential units, such
subdivision plat shall show, when required by the Planning Board, a park or parks suitably
located for playground or other recreational purposes. The amount of land to be so reserved is
normally, subject to the provisions below, in the amount of ten (10) percent of the gross area of
the subdivision. The area shall be shown and marked on the final plat "Reserved for Park and /or
Playground Purposes."
2. Land for park, playground or other recreational purposes shall not be required until the Planning
Board has made a finding that a proper case exists for requiring that a park or parks be suitably
located for playgrounds or other recreational purposes within the Town. Such finding shall
include an evaluation of the present and anticipated future needs for park and recreational
facilities in the Town based on projected population growth to which the particular subdivision
plat will contribute. Such evaluation may also include reference to any current Parks, Recreation
and Open Space Plan existing in the Town.
3. In the event the Planning Board makes a finding pursuant to paragraph 2 of this section that the
proposed subdivision plat presents a proper case for requiring a park or parks suitably located
for playgrounds or other recreational purposes, but that a suitable park or parks of adequate size
to meet the requirement cannot be properly located on such subdivision plat, the Planning Board
may require a sum of money in lieu thereof in an amount to be established by the Town Board.
In making such determination of suitability, the Planning Board shall assess the size and
suitability of lands shown on the subdivision plat which could be possible locations for park or
recreational facilities, as well as practical factors including whether there is a need for additional
facilities in the immediate neighborhood. Any monies required by the Planning Board in lieu of
land for park, playground or other recreational purposes, pursuant to the provisions of this
section, shall be deposited into a trust fund to be used by the Town exclusively for park,
playground or other recreational purposes, including the acquisition of property.
4. If the Town Board, by resolution or local law has established the amounts, or a formula by which
amounts payable in lieu of land reservation may be determined, the amounts payable pursuant to
this section shall be as set forth in, or determined by, such local law.
5. If the Planning Board, upon the findings set forth above, requires a reservation of parkland or
recreational land, such reservation shall be of suitable size, dimension, topography, and general
character and shall have adequate road access for the particular purposes envisioned by the
Planning Board. The Board may require that the recreation area be located at a suitable place
on the edge of the subdivision so that additional land may be added at such time as the adjacent
land is subdivided. The subdivider may dedicate all such recreation areas to the Town.
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6. Land reserved for use as playgrounds or playfields shall be of a character and location suitable
for such use. This land shall be relatively level and dry and shall be improved by the subdivider
to the standards required by the Planning Board.
7. The provisions of this section are minimum standards. None of the paragraphs above shall be
construed as prohibiting a subdivider from reserving other land for recreation purposes in
addition to the requirements of this section.
AND, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this amendment to the Subdivision Regulations take
effect upon approval of same by the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Wilcox, Cornell, Kenerson, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Smith stated that the second item for consideration
was the ENACTMENT OF A LOCAL LAW AMENDING THE TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING
ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE FOR OPEN SPACE RESERVATIONS IN MULTIPLE
RESIDENCE DISTRICTS.
Attorney Barney stated that at present, the Town Law provides that the Planning Board
can require open space reservations in site plan approvals, but had never formally adopted any
legislation in the Town of Ithaca allowing that. Attorney Barney stated that this Amendment
allows the Planning Board to require open space in a Multiple Residence zone, which Section
274 -a of the Town Law permits the Planing Board to do as part of the site plan review process.
The Planning Board must make findings that what is being done requires or creates the need for
a park, and that if the Board requests payment in lieu of parkland that there is no appropriate
on the land for a park to be located.
Chairperson Smith asked if anyone from the Public wished to speak on this subject. No
one spoke.
MOTION by Candace Cornell, seconded by Herbert Finch:
THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Planning Board recommends and
hereby does recommend to the Town Board the adoption of the Proposed Local Law Amending
the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance to Provide for Open Space Reservations in Multiple
Residence Districts, as proposed and as the same is attached hereto.
Attorney Barney suggested that the resolution be modified by adding the following:
• "RESOLVED, that the Planning Board finds that the proposed Local Law is in
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accordance with a comprehensive plan of development of the Town of Ithaca,"
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that a goal of the Comprehensive Plan was to
provide adequate recreation space for all of the Town residents and to provide recreational areas
for the future Town residents.
The modification suggested by Attorney Barney was found to be acceptable to Board
Member Candace Cornell, who made the MOTION, and Board Member Herbert Finch, who
seconded the MOTION.
Attorney Barney asked that an official vote on the resolution as modified be taken.
Chairperson Smith called for a vote on the modification of the proposed resolution with
the following results:
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell,
Cornell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Smith closed this segment of the Public
Hearing.
Chairperson Smith stated that the third item for consideration was the
ENACTMENT OF A LOCAL LAW AMENDING TOWN OF ITHACA LOCAL LAW
NUMBER 10 FOR THE YEAR 1994 TO ESTABLISH AMOUNTS TO BE PAID IN LIEU OF
OPEN SPACE RESERVATIONS IN ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that this was a fee provision which allows the
planning Board to assess fees in lieu of the park set aside if it were determined that setting aside
open space land on a particular site was not appropriate. Mr. Kanter stated that there was never
a provision in the Subdivision Regulations, Zoning Ordinance or in any other Local Law which
told the Planning Board how that fee should be determined, which is the overall intent of this
provision which is to establish amounts to be paid in lieu of open space reservations when that
determination is found to be necessary by the Planning Board. The Town Board had in
December of 1994 taken all of the fee provisions from everything where the Town charges a fee
and put it into a new Local Law Number 10 for the Year 1994. Mr. Kanter stated that the new
provision sets amounts that the Planning Board could charge in lieu of setting aside open space
or park land.
Mr. Kanter stated that the Planning Committee and the Codes & Ordinance Committee
41 spent a lot of time reviewing this issue and trying to determine how to establish the amounts,
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and that staff had prepared a procedure for how those fees should be set. The fees were based
largely on an evaluation of land values in different parts of the Town. Staff reviewed each of
the different zoning districts in the Town, the recent land sales records at the County Assessment
Office and for each zoning district tried to determine average values for land so that we could
make some fair determinations of amounts for those particular zoning districts. Mr. Kanter
continued by stating that the fee amounts were based on actual land sales transactions, the R -5
District, which is the Mobile Home District, and the Multiple Residence (MR) District, there
was no recent sales information, so staff had to look at assessed value in the Assessment rolls.
Mr. Kanter stated that the formula was to take the value of the land for each building lot which
is determined by the minimum lot size of that district and then taking 10% of that amount which
results in the fee schedule in the proposed Local Law. Mr. Kanter read the proposed fee
schedule on a per district basis.
Board Member Candace Cornell asked when the determination for the fee is made if the
proposal involves accessory apartments.
Attorney Barney stated that it would depend on the circumstances. Attorney Barney
stated that at the time the developer creates a subdivision, they may not know how many units
are going to be one unit, how many would have secondary apartments in them. Attorney Barney
stated that you do know the number of lots at the time of subdivision approval. At that point
in time, the developer would be assessed and pay the fee multiplied by the number of lots being
requested, the number of dwelling units would be irrelevant. Attorney Barney stated that if it
were a site plan for a multiple residence then it would be different because it would be figured
on a dwelling unit basis, whereby a subdivision is based on the number of lots.
Attorney Barney stated that the other choice would be to asses the fee when they go for
a building permit, but the problem with that would be that you would want to get the money for
the park when the approval occurs, not several years later when they apply for a building
permit. The recommendation of the Codes & Ordinance Committee was to collect the fee at the
time the development is granted or approved.
Ms. Cornell asked what would stop a developer from putting in the plans that there was
not going to be any accessory apartments.
Attorney Barney responded that it did not matter because they would be paying by the
number of lots.
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that a developer that says from the beginning that
40 he is planning on building 50 two - family homes would have to pay twice as much as if he says
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he is going to build on 50 lots without knowing if they will be two - family homes or not. Ms.
Hoffmann stated there was a little bit of unfairness in that.
Ms. Cornell stated that the proposal specified per dwelling unit.
Attorney Barney stated that per dwelling unit would be used only when it could be
calculated, and that the minimum charge would be based on the number of lots.
Ms. Cornell stated that she saw a flaw in the proposal. If the Board had a way of
limiting the number of accessory apartments being built on any given development, then she
could see how the proposal would work. Ms. Cornell stated that without the mechanism in
effect, it would make no business sense for any developer to come in and say that they are going
to have accessory apartments.
Attorney Barney stated that in a R -15 zone you might get that, because it is the most
expensive zone. Attorney Barney stated that in the grand scheme of things, Mr. Barney was not
sure that it would make that much difference to a developer whether they declare one or two
units if they have a particular type of plan that they want to build. In today's construction costs,
an additional $2,800 would not make that much difference to a project of that size.
Board Member Herbert Finch stated that this would be in lieu of a land set aside, so the
need for the park is not effected by the dwelling unit. This is an alternative only for a time for
when the Planning Board would not expect a land set aside.
Ms. Cornell stated that the land set aside was always based on lots.
Attorney Barney stated that this was based on straight acreage.
Board Member Fred Wilcox stated that whether they were building one -unit or two -unit
structures, it would be 10% of the land set aside. Mr. Wilcox stated that with a set fee, it
would be consistent.
Attorney Barney stated that the values that were determined were figured on the average
number of dwelling units per acre. Attorney Barney stated that it was a choice of when the
Board wanted to require payment.
Ms. Cornell asked why "proposed dwelling unit" was used in the proposed Local Law
to establish amounts to be paid in lieu of open space reservations.
Attorney Barney stated that the Town would know what the dwelling units are going to
be. In Multiple zones the Board would be approving specific building on a specific site, you
do not know how many units there will be in a particular subdivision. Attorney barney stated
40 that in R -30, R -15 and R -9 zones, approximately 30 percent of the homes have a second unit
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Ms. Cornell suggested changing the language to be based on a "per building lot" basis.
Board Member Herbert Finch, a member of the Codes & Ordinance Committee,
addressed the Board and stated that the Committee found the Multiple Residence District the
most difficult to determine the best way to address the situation. Mr. Finch stated that the other
districts are straight forward.
Ms. Cornell suggested that for Multiple Residence Districts and the R -5 District remain
on a per dwelling unit basis, but for the remaining districts zoned as, R -30, R -15, R -9 and AG
Districts be calculated on a per building lot basis.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter addressed the Board and stated that the Board could have
each zoning district description written to read, "for each proposed lot or dwelling unit as
defined ".
Attorney Barney stated that language regarding the dwelling unit is already in the
ordinance and defined in the definition portion of those ordinances.
Ms. Cornell stated that the Board would be encouraging a developer to come in and say
that they will not be building accessory apartments when they do intend to do that.
Chairperson Smith stated that they usually say that to increase their density.
Attorney Barney stated that Ms. Cornell's solution says automatically that whether or not
there is a accessory apartment, they pay the same amount for the lot.
Ms. Cornell stated that it seemed to her that the Town would be setting up a situation
where people would cheat.
Attorney Barney stated that the developer would need to count the number of units for
the density permitted in that zone.
Ms. Hoffmann stated that the number of people that would need the park land is
determined by the number of units rather than by the number of lots. Ms. Hoffmann stated that
she would keep the language as presented in the proposed resolution.
units.
Ms. Cornell stated that there seemed to be no way of enforcing the number of dwelling
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Ms. Cornell stated that the proposal could be enacted, and amend it in the future if it
does not work out.
Board Member Robert Kenerson asked what the rational was for putting fixed amounts
for fees in the law, as opposed to by a schedule.
Attorney Barney stated that the Local Laws would be revised regularly as opposed to
leaving it in separate various statutes. Attorney Barney stated that the Town has a thorough
Town Clerk and about once a year she goes through the fees and suggests revisions.
Chairperson Smith noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if anyone wished to
speak.
Bill Hilker addressed the Board and read a letter that was addressed to the Planning
Board, written by Jim Hilker. (Letter from James Hilker dated March 21, 1995, is attached
hereto as Exhibit #4)
Mr. Hilker stated that he had reviewed the proposal thoroughly and there are a few points
that he would like to address. Mr. Hilker stated that when the developer comes before the
Planning Board they have no control, according to this legislation, as to whether they can set
aside land or whether they will be required to set aside fees because it says that it is at the
discretion of the Planning Board as to whether this will or will not happen. Mr. Hilker stated
that he heard the discussion of how the fees were derived. Mr. Hilker stated that he felt that
the fees were extremely excessive. Mr. Hilker stated that they were based on fully developed
lots on an individual lot basis, 10% of that value or more. Mr. Hilker stated that when a
developer develops a piece of property, he buys a large section at $2,000 to $3,000 per acre
which relates to about 3 lots per acre in an R -15 zone. Mr. Hilker stated that in an R -15 zone,
the park land would cost the developer approximately 10% of $3,000. In the proposal, the R -15
would be charged 3 x $2,800 for park land. Mr. Hilker stated that there is something grossly
wrong in the formula. The set aside was based on raw land because the park land is not
developed. Mr. Hilker stated that this proposal would be like a 30% surcharge against the lots.
Mr. Hilker stated that he has heard that the developer pays the fees. Mr. Hilker stated
that he would like the Board to keep in mind that the developer never pays, the cost goes
directly to the customer or the homeowner. Mr. Hilker stated that proposal would make it
unaffordable for the middle class and affordable housing people to live in the Town of Ithaca.
Mr. Hilker asked how the Town would track who paid the fee and who had not yet paid
the fee in lieu of five or ten years from now since the fee is not paid until the lot is sold. Mr.
Hilker stated that there was no cost - effective way to track those lots that the fees were paid on
and those lots that the fees were not paid on.
Ms. Cornell asked if the fees were based on developed land prices or undeveloped land
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Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that the fees were not based on developed land.
There was a mixture of the types of parcels looked at which varied largely by zoning district
because in R -15 and R -9 there are mainly small lots left because many of the larger parcels have
been developed already. Mr. Kanter stated that in the larger lot size districts primarily most of
what was found was large undeveloped vacant lots largely removed from infrastructure services.
In the R -15 and R -9 zones, there were some that were served by infrastructure and some that
were not, but most were. Overall, Mr. Kanter felt it fair to state that many of the parcels that
were looked at would have to be considered vacant, non - developed parcels.
Mr. Hilker stated that vacant lands in an R -15 and R -9 districts are priced at
approximately $3,000 per acre of land. When a developer buys land, he buys 5 to 15 acres to
make the development work. The value would be less than $1000 per building site for raw
value of land that a cost of $3,000 per acre to purchase. Then to consider $2,800 for a fee in
lieu of park land set aside makes that value even less.
Town Engineer Daniel Walker addressed the Board and stated that he thought that Mr.
Hilker's numbers were low for the raw value of land in R -15 zones. Mr. Walker stated that a
fair value for raw land would be between $5000 and $10000 per acre for 5 to 10 acre parcels.
Attorney Barney stated that he had a little trouble with the concept that the value should
be based on raw land. When a developer is done with a project the park, by subdivision
requirements, will sit on a road, and that road will be put in by a developer. It is no longer an
undeveloped, raw piece of land. Attorney Barney stated that the property will have water, sewer
and a road built there, which will give the land a higher value.
Ms. Cornell stated that the Town was updating a Park and Open Space Plan that will
show where the Town is in need of parks, and what type of parks exist and where they are
located.
Attorney Barney stated that the Town of Ithaca can require a fee, but they must first
make a finding showing that there is a need for a park generated by the proposal. And it must
also be shown that the park can not be put on a property. It is only in that circumstances that
the fees in lieu of comes into play. This proposal gives a schedule to let the developer know
exactly what will be expected.
Mr. Hilker stated that he hoped that Attorney Barney's statement is correct. Mr. Hilker
stated that there are two affordable housing project that have been proposed recently, and would
not be able to stand this kind of fee and still remain as affordable housing.
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Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that tax payers pay for the maintenance of the parks
in the Town of Ithaca, not just the developer.
Chairperson Smith asked if there was anyone else from the public that wished to speak.
No one spoke. Chairperson Smith closed the Public Hearing and brought the matter back to the
Board for discussion.
Chairperson Smith noted that there was no further discussion, and asked if anyone were
prepared to offer a motion.
MOTION by Candace Cornell, seconded by Eva Hoffmann:
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board finds that the proposed Local Law is in accordance with
the comprehensive plan of development of the Town,
THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Planning Board recommends and
hereby does recommend to the Town Board the adoption of the Proposed Local Law Amending
Local Law Number 10 for the Year 1994 to Establish Amounts to be Paid in Lieu of Open
Space Reservations in All Residential Districts, as proposed and as the same is attached hereto.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Cornell.
Nay - None.
Abstain - Bell.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
Chairperson Smith declared the matter of the Recommendation to the Town Board to
Enact a Local Law Amending Town of Ithaca Local Law Number 10 for the Year 1994 to
Establish Amounts to be Paid in Lieu of Open Space Reservations in all Residential Districts
duly closed at 9:01 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM: CONTINUATION OF CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY AND
FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL, AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD
OF APPEALS WITH RESPECT TO A REQUEST FOR A SIGN VARIANCE, FOR THE
PROPOSED USE OF SUBJECT PREMISES AS ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES FOR
CLASSEN HOME HEALTH ASSOCIATES, INC., IN AN R -15 RESIDENCE DISTRICT,
TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 26- 3 -8.2, 1212 TRUMANSBURG ROAD.
DENMARK DEVELOPMENT, INC., OWNER; PATRICIA CLASSEN, APPLICANT.
® ACTION WAS TABLED FROM MARCH 7. 1995 PUBLIC HEARING.
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Chairperson Smith declared the above -noted matter duly opened at 9:02 p.m. and read
aloud from the Planning Board Agenda.
Board Member Fred Wilcox asked if the proposed sign was done in conjunction with the
neighbors prior to the Board Meeting tonight.
Elizabeth Classen of Classen Home Health Associates, responded that it was a collective
decision made with the neighbors, and that the proposed sign would be agreeable to everyone.
Mr. Kanter stated that his secretary did receive a phone call in which they stated that they
were happy with the sign at 9 square feet.
Ms. Classen stated that the neighbors were pleased with the revisions to the size of the
sign and also reviewed the placement of the sign on the property. Ms. Classen stated that the
new sign would be placed in the same location that Dr. Goodfriend had his sign.
Board Member James Ainslie asked if the sign was going to be two - sided.
Patricia Classen responded, yes.
Board Member Herbert Finch stated that if the Classens are happy and the neighbors are
happy then the changes should be acceptable to the Board as well.
Chairperson Smith asked if the sign would interfere with the vision for the vehicles
leaving the property.
Patricia Classen stated that the sign was far enough away from the road not to obstruct
the vision of the road.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that a revised site plan would be needed to be
supplied to the Town staff if the sign was not going to be located as noted on the revised Site
Plan Map dated February 20, 1995, if approval was granted.
Attorney Bruce Wilson stated that a revised site plan could be added to the resolution as
a condition of approval, and that a revised copy would be given to the Town.
There was discussion of the coloring and visibility of the sign as proposed.
There being no further discussion, the chair asked if anyone were prepared to offer a
motion.
MOTION by Fred Wilcox, seconded by Candace Cornell:
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RESOLVED, that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as the Town of Ithaca Sign
Review Board, recommend and hereby does recommend to the Board of Zoning Appeals that
the request for a sign variance for one free standing sign be granted, conditioned upon the
following:
1. That the size of the sign not exceed nine (9) square feet in area, and that the height of
the sign not exceed six (6) feet above ground level.
There being no further discussion the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Cornell, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Smith stated that the Board would address the issue of the site plan proposal,
and asked if the applicants wished to give a brief description of the plan.
Attorney Bruce Wilson addressed the Board and stated with regard to the secondary
access, that there was an easement created in 1949, but they have not been able to determine the
exact location of that easement. Attorney Wilson stated that he had drafted an easement
agreement to provide the easement needed for the secondary access, but that it was found to be
unacceptable to Ms. Sally Schultz, the neighbor to the north. Attorney Wilson stated that he and
the Classens wanted the Planning Board to approve the site plan with both ingress and egress
through the existing driveway that was used by the Doctors office. Attorney Wilson stated that
the only other option would be to created a roadway through the hedges, which would eliminate
the hedge altogether.
Board Member Candace Cornell mentioned a horse -shoe driveway, and asked if it would
be too close to the Ms. Schultz's driveway.
Attorney Wilson responded that a horse -shoe shaped driveway would be very close to the
neighbors driveway. Attorney Wilson stated that he felt it would be safer to use the existing
driveway rather than create a second access onto Route 96. Attorney Wilson stated that the only
request made by the Planning Board was to research the easement for a second access, which
was explored, the neighbor to the north is not receptive to that. Attorney Wilson stated that he
deferred to the Board on what they thought the Classens should do at this point. Attorney
Wilson stated that he would prefer not to get into a litigation at the request of the site plan.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that he agreed with Attorney Wilson and that he
would prefer not to have a new access point onto Route 96 because of the proximity to the
driveway to the north and the number of driveways along Trumansburg Road. Mr. Kanter
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RESOLVED, that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as the Town of Ithaca Sign
Review Board, recommend and hereby does recommend to the Board of Zoning Appeals that
the request for a sign variance for one free standing sign be granted, conditioned upon the
following:
1. That the size of the sign not exceed nine (9) square feet in area, and that the height of
the sign not exceed six (6) feet above ground level.
There being no further discussion the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Cornell, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Smith stated that the Board would address the issue of the site plan proposal,
and asked if the applicants wished to give a brief description of the plan.
Attorney Bruce Wilson addressed the Board and stated with regard to the secondary
access, that there was an easement created in 1949, but they have not been able to determine the
exact location of that easement. Attorney Wilson stated that he had drafted an easement
agreement to provide the easement needed for the secondary access, but that it was found to be
unacceptable to Ms. Sally Schultz, the neighbor to the north. Attorney Wilson stated that he and
the Classens wanted the Planning Board to approve the site plan with both ingress and egress
through the existing driveway that was used by the Doctors office. Attorney Wilson stated that
the only other option would be to created a roadway through the hedges, which would eliminate
the hedge altogether.
Board Member Candace Cornell mentioned a horse -shoe driveway, and asked if it would
be too close to the Ms. Schultz's driveway.
Attorney Wilson responded that a horse -shoe shaped driveway would be very close to the
neighbors driveway. Attorney Wilson stated that he felt it would be safer to use the existing
driveway rather than create a second access onto Route 96. Attorney Wilson stated that the only
request made by the Planning Board was to research the easement for a second access, which
was explored, the neighbor to the north is not receptive to that. Attorney Wilson stated that he
deferred to the Board on what they thought the Classens should do at this point. Attorney
Wilson stated that he would prefer not to get into a litigation at the request of the site plan.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that he agreed with Attorney Wilson and that he
would prefer not to have a new access point onto Route 96 because of the proximity to the
driveway to the north and the number of driveways along Trumansburg Road. Mr. Kanter
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ishedges would significantly effect the residential character of the neighborhood.
Board Member James Ainslie asked if two cars could pass each other in the existing
driveway.
Patricia Classen responded, yes, that they do it all of the time.
Town Attorney John Barney asked Attorney Wilson what the deed that the Classens have
said about the easement.
Attorney Wilson stated that effectively it gives to the property that is presently owned
by his clients a 12 foot easement for access across that property to enter 96. It was created in
1949, he was not aware that it had ever been used, although the site plan does show an
abandoned gravel driveway. The description of the easement is very difficult. It was a common
grantor of both properties, and then one property came out and it reserved the right of access
out. It was in the succeeding deeds of property that is presently owned by the Classens, but it
was not carried forward in the reference to the deeds which is presently owned by Mrs. Schultz.
Town Attorney Barney asked if the easement was reserved or granted to the Classen.
Attorney Wilson responded that the conveyance of the Classen property took with it an
easement to the north. Attorney Barney stated that an easement was granted to Doctor
Goodfriend. Attorney Wilson requested that the Planning Board approve the site plan without
the additional drive.
Ms. Hoffmann stated that even though there had not been a problem with the traffic in
and cout of this property when Dr. Goodfriend used it, the increased traffic on Route 96 was
of concern now.
Attorney Bill Seldin addressed the Board and stated that he was here representing Sally
Schultz, the neighbor to the north in the discussions for this project. Attorney Seldin stated that
when Ms. Schultz purchased the property in 1992, and when she did she got a warranty deed
that was not subject to this easement. The updated survey map appended to the deed,did not
show an easement. Consequently, Ms. Schultz did not learn about this reported easement until
this issue came about because of the application for site plan approval. Attorney Seldin traced
the history of this for the planning Board, in 1949 there was an easement. There is no way you
can match the description of this easement with anything on either Ms. Schultz' map or the
Classen map. Attorney Seldin stated that it is their opinion that this easement has been
terminated legally because it has not been used for a long time, there is no way to locate that
easement, and it has gone into disuse because there has been a method of ingress and egress
devised for this property (the Classen Property) that has come about since the granting of this
easement. Attorney Seldin stated that Ms. Schultz does not want her driveway being used by
anyone other than herself. Attorney Seldin stated that Ms. Schultz supports the sign and the
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business, but not the easement.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that the requirement for a second access was a
condition of approval for the doctors office.
Board Member Fred Wilcox stated that he felt that Attorney Wilson had made his good
faith effort to locate the easement as requested, but was unable to do so.
Attorney Wilson addressed the Board and stated that there would be no adult day care
given on that site without appearing before the Planning Board for approval.
There was a brief discussion about monitoring the access problems at that site for a set
period of time, but it was determined that there was no feasible way for the monitoring to be
accomplished.
Town Engineer Daniel Walker stated that the driveway would be adequate as shown, if
any expansion of this site was proposed, then the Board would need to worry about the access.
Mr. Walker recommended that the Planning Board approve the site plan as submitted.
Ms. Hoffmann stated that she wished to make an amendment to the Environmental
Assessment Form. Item 10 asked the question of what the present land use was in the vicinity
of the proposed project, the applicants responded, "Professional Offices Only ". Ms. Hoffmann
stated that "residential" and "open space" should be marked as well, and that "professional
offices only" should be deleted from the answer as well.
The Board concurred with the changes suggested by Ms. Hoffmann.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by James Ainslie:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the
proposed use of subject premises as administrative offices for Classen Home Health
Associates, Inc., located at 1212 Trumansburg Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 26-
3-8.2, Residence District R -15. Denmark Development, Inc., Owner; Patricia Classen,
Applicant, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is legislatively
determined to act as Lead Agency in environmental review with respect to Site Plan
Approval, and
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3, The Planning Board, at a public meeting held on March 21, 1995, has reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the
applicant, a Part II prepared by the Planning staff, and a site plan entitled "Classen Home
Health Associates, Inc.," dated January 30, 1995, and revised February 20, 1995,
prepared by Manzari and Reagan, Land Surveyors, and additional application materials,
and
4. The Town Planning staff have recommended a negative determination of environmental
significance with respect to the proposed site plan, as proposed;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination of
environmental significance in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality
Review Act for the above - referenced action as proposed and, therefore, neither a Full
Environmental Assessment Form nor an Environmental Impact Statement will be required.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell, Cornell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
MOTION by Eva Hoffmann, seconded by Candace Cornell:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval for the
proposed use of subject premises as administrative offices for Classen Home Health
Associates, Inc. , located at 1212 Trumansburg Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 26-
3-8.2, Residence District R -15. Denmark Development, Inc., Owner, Patricia Classen,
Applicant, and
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as Lead
Agency in environmental review, has, on March 21, 1995, made a negative
determination of environmental significance, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on March 7, 1995, and at a subsequent
meeting held on March 21, 1995, has reviewed and accepted as adequate the Short
Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the applicant, a Part II prepared by
the Planning staff, and a site plan entitled "Classen Home Health Associates, Inc.," dated
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January 30, 1995, and revised February 20, 1995, prepared by Manzari and Reagan,
Land Surveyors, and additional application materials.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements for
Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval, as shown on the Preliminary and Final Site
Plan Checklist, having determined from the materials presented that such waiver will
result in neither a significant alteration of the purpose of site plan control nor the policies
enunciated or implied by the Town Board, and
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval to the
proposed site plan entitled "Classen Home Health Associates, Inc.," dated January 30,
1995, and revised February 20, 1995, prepared by Manzari and Reagan, Land Surveyors,
subject to the following conditions:
a. That the final site plan be revised to show the location of the new sign to be at
the location of the existing sign reading "1212 Trumansburg Road ", and
b. That a variance for
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nine (9) square feet
if such variance is
plan, and
the proposed sign shall
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in area, nor exceed six
granted, and that such
be obtained from the Town of Ithaca
of the proposed sign shall not exceed
(6) feet in height above ground level,
notation be revised on the final site
C. That the site plan referred to above includes Classen Home Health Associates
administrative office use only, and does not include adult day care or any other
use. Any additional use will require review and approval of a revised site plan
by the Planning Board, and
d. Submission of an original or mylar copy and two copies of the final site plan, as
revised above.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell, Cornell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that he wanted to add an observation about the
process of granting use variances that the Town currently has does not require site plan
approval, does not require even a recommendation from the Planning Board to the Zoning Board
• for a use variances granted. Mr. Kanter stated that the thought that was something that the
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Town should look at. In this particular case because these access issues were raised at the time
use variance request came from the Classens to the Zoning Board. The Zoning Board did say
that there are some parking and access issues that need to be addressed, and sent them to the
Planning Board for site plan review. That was not a formal Town process, it was just a
condition of the use variance. Mr. Kanter stated that he thought, not saying whether in this case
it would have been any different, that the process where use variances require some kind of
recommendation from the Planning Board might be appropriate. Mr. Kanter asked that the
Planning Board think about what he had just stated.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Smith closed the matter of the Classen
Home Health Associates, Inc. Site Plan Approval and Recommendation to the Zoning Board of
Appeals for a Sign Variance duly closed at 10:02 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION TO THE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS WITH RESPECT TO A REQUEST FOR SIGN
VARIANCES, AND CONSIDERATION OF SKETCH PLAN FOR SITE PLAN
MODIFICATIONS FOR BIG AL'S HILLTOP QUICKSTOP, TOWN OF ITHACA TAX
PARCEL NO. 43 -2 -1 AND 43 -2 -21 1103 DANBY ROAD. BUSINESS DISTRICT C.
MICHAEL HERZING, OWNER /APPLICANT.
Chairperson Smith declared the above -noted matter duly opened at 10:03 p.m. and read
aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings and posted and published and as noted above.
Michael Herzing addressed the Board and stated that he was proposing to keep signs for
his convenience store. Mr. Herzing showed the Board some pictures of the signs he wished to
keep. He stated that there were three convenience stores in the Town of Ithaca and his is the
only one that is a full service gas station and without the signs advertising what was available
in the store, most of the customers would never get out of their cars. Mr. Herzing stated that
Sunoco requires all of the signs that are showed in the photos. Mr. Herzing stated that he was
hoping to move the diamond shaped Sunoco Sign in the future.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that Page 1 of the Environmental Assessment Form
has a summary of the variances requested. Mr. Kanter gave a brief summary of what the sign
law allows. The Sign Law allows one wall sign on each building facade, a free standing sign
has a maximum allowance of 50 square feet, and the one Mr. Herzing has is calculated at 63 +/-
square feet as determined by Mr. Frost. Mr. Kanter also stated that Mr. Frost had stated that
under the gasoline canopy there were two separate free standing small signs, which were also
non - conforming according to the sign law as well. Mr. Kanter stated that Mr. Frost had also
pointed out that there were too many window signs at the store.
Board Member Fred Wilcox stated that Mr. Herzing had already removed several of the
signs that he used to have displayed.
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Building and Zoning Inspector, Andrew Frost.
March 21, 1995
Board Member Herbert Finch addressed the Board and stated that Mr. Herzing had made
the corner on which his store is located quite a lot more attractive that what the corner looked
like when the store was first purchased.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that Mr. Herzing is allowed to maintain one permitted
wall sign, and there are two wall signs on the north end, and on the west end there are four wall
signs, and only one would be permitted. Mr. Frost feels that Mr. Herzing would only be
allowed two. The signs on the north side of the building could be consolidated and be within
the allowable amount of square footage. On the west side, Mr. Herzing would exceed the 60-
foot square footage that would be permitted by approximately 10 feet.
Ms. Hoffmann stated that there are also window signs on the north wall and the west
wall, one window sign on each.
Mr. Herzing stated that the signs referred to by Ms. Hoffmann are the luminous beer
signs that was made mention to.
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that it seemed to her that Mr. Herzing could
reduce the number of signs he had and use them more efficiently. Ms. Cornell asked Mr.
Herzing if the ICE signs could be removed.
Mr. Herzing responded that the ice machine had been moved to the back of the building
and was not really visible, and that without the sign no one would know that they had ice
available at the store.
The Board Members discussed alternatives for the signs that Mr. Herzing wanted to keep.
Mr. Herzing offered explanations of why each sign was needed and the benefit for keeping each
sign.
Mr. Herzing stated for the Board to tell him what they wanted him to do and that he
would comply with what the Board asked.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that the variances could be granted for a specific
amount of time on the condition that the signs be reduced or removed by the end of that time
frame.
There being no further discussion Chairperson Smith asked if anyone were prepared to
offer a motion.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by James Ainslie:
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RESOLVED, that the Planning Board, acting as the Town of Ithaca Sign Review Board,
recommend and hereby does recommend to the Zoning Board of Appeals that the request for
sign area variances for ten signs (four prohibited wall signs, three prohibited free - standing signs,
a Sunoco logo sign on the gasoline canopy and two exposed luminous tubing window signs) be
granted with the condition that no additional signs be allowed on the premises unless signs at
least equal in size be simultaneously removed, and in any case unless approval is obtained from
the Sign Review Board (Planning Board) and the Zoning Board of Appeals, and further
RESOLVED, that it is further recommended that any variance be subject to the following
conditions to be complied with no later than two years from the date of the variance:
1. The north wall have no more than one wall sign.
2. The west wall have no more than two wall signs.
3. The luminous tube signs be brought into conformity with the sign law.
4. There be no more than two free - standing signs.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Wilcox, Bell, Cornell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
Mr. Herzing stated that he had purchased the land around the gas station and was hoping
to present a sketch plan for subdivision to the Planning Board to expand his business within the
next few months. He was considering a car wash and an expansion of the store itself, but there
are additional possibilities available at that location. He wants to move the store back on the
property and add some additional parking spaces. Mr. Herzing stated that they were considering
nine additional spaces and that if more than that was needed in the future, they would be
provided at that time. Mr. Herzing stated that he had drafted rough draft of what he has
proposed. (Copies of the drawings submitted are hereto attached as Exhibit #6)
Mr. Kanter stated that the proposal would come to the Board in the future after the
details of a site plan have been discussed with the Town Planning staff.
There being no further discussion Chairperson Smith declared the recommendation to the
Zoning Board of Appeals regarding sign variances for Big Al's Hilltop Quickstop to be duly
closed at 10:58 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM: CONSIDERATION OF RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD
ON ENACTING A LOCAL LAW TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE, OF THE TOWN
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OF ITHACA TO PROVIDE FOR EXPIRATION OF PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN
APPROVAL.
Chairperson Smith declared the above -noted matter duly opened and read aloud from the
Planning Board Agenda.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that the reason for this Local Law was that the Town
currently has for subdivision approvals a provision which says that if you don't apply for your
final subdivision plat within 18 months of the preliminary subdivision approval. If you don't,
then you lose the preliminary approval. Attorney Barney stated that there are no provisions for
site plans and this is to require that action be taken within 18 months of received preliminary
site plan approval to receive final site plan approval. This gives an applicant 18 months to file
for final approval and 24 months to receive final site plan approval. Attorney Barney stated that
there was an escape clause which says that if there is a hardship the time frame could be
extended. (A copy of the recommended local law is hereto attached at Exhibit #7)
There being no discussion, the Chair asked if anyone were prepared to offer a motion.
MOTION by Eva Hoffmann, seconded by James Ainslie:
is RESOLVED, that the Planning Board finds that the proposed Local Law is in accordance with
the comprehensive plan of development of the Town,
THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Planning Board recommends and
hereby does recommend to the Town Board the adoption of the Proposed Local Law Amending
the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance to Provide for Expiration of Preliminary Site Plan
Approval, as proposed and as the same is attached hereto.
There being no further discussion the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Smith, Ainslie, Hoffmann, Finch, Kenerson, Wilcox, Bell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon MOTION, Chairperson Smith declared the March 21, 1995 Meeting of the
Planning Board duly adjourned at 11:16 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
March 21, 1,095
Starr Hays,
Recording Secretary,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board.