HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB Minutes 1994-11-15TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOVEMBER 15, 1994
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The
Town of
Ithaca
Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday,
Ithaca,
November
New York
15, 1994,
at 7 :30
in Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street,
p.m.
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOVEMBER 15, 1994
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The
Town of
Ithaca
Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday,
Ithaca,
November
New York
15, 1994,
at 7 :30
in Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street,
p.m.
PRESENT. Chairperson Robert Kenerson, George Bayer, Eva Hoffmann,
James Ainslie, Herbert Finch, Candace Cornell, Jonathan
Kanter (Town Planner) , Daniel Walker (Town Engineer) ,
George Frantz (Assistant Town Planner) , JoAnn Cornish -
Epps (Planner II), John Barney (Town Attorney).
ALSO PRESENT: Ed Hallberg, Mark Macera, John Yntema, Bruno
Schickel, Karen L. Smith, Bonnie VanAmburg,
Lawrence A. Hatzlien, Karen Knudson, Nancy Brown,
Greg Thomas, Mary & Bill Webber, Daryl Anderson,
Steve Gaarder, Jerry & Claudia Weisburd.
Chairperson Kenerson declared the meeting duly opened at 7:30
p.m. and accepted for the record the Secretary's Affidavit of
Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public Hearings in Town
Hall and the Ithaca Journal on November 7, 1994, and November 9,
1994, respectively, together with the Secretary's Affidavit of
Service By Mail of said Notice upon the various neighbors of the
properties under discussion, as appropriate, upon the Clerks of the
City of Ithaca and the Town of Ithaca, upon the Tompkins County
Commissioner of Planning, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of
Public Works, and upon the applicants and /or agents, as
appropriate, on November 9, 19940
Chairperson Kenerson read the Fire Exit Regulations to those
assembled, as required by the New York State Department of State,
Office of Fire Prevention and Control.
AGENDA ITEM. PERSONS TO BE HEARD.
There
were
no
persons
present
to
be heard. Chairperson
Kenerson closed
this
segment
of the
meeting.
AGENDA ITEM:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - November 1, 19949
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by James Ainslie:
RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning
Board Meeting of November 1, 1994, be and hereby are approved with
the following correction:
On Page 7, Paragraph 10, Sentence 1, which read as follows:
"It was agreed that the Board members and the Fires Residents'
Group should have an opportunity to further review the revised
SLUD....",
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Which was
revised to read
as follows:
"It was
agreed that the
Board members
and the First
Residents'
Group
should have an
opportunity to
further review
the revised
SLUD...."
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Kenerson, Bayer, Hoffmann,_ Ainslie, Finch, Cornell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION
AMENDING THE TOWN OF ITHACA SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE FOR
EXTINGUISHMENT OF SUBDIVISION APPROVALS OF ABANDONED SUBDIVISIONS
BY ADDING A NEW ARTICLE VII, SECTION 39..
Chairperson Kenerson declared the Public Hearing in the above -
noted matter duly opened at 7:35 p.m. and read aloud from the
Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted
above.
Town Attorney John Barney addressed the Board and stated that
over the years there has been a general effort to place into the
Zoning Ordinance and into other legislation of the Town of Ithaca,
automatic terminations of approvals where the action that the
approval contemplated was never taken. Attorney Barney stated
that the reason for this amendment is because the laws are always
changing and this would put in place a mechanism to terminate
subdivision approval if nothing is done on the subdivision or very
little is done on the subdivision after approval is granted.
Chairperson Kenerson asked if the termination was subject to
review before it is done.
Attorney Barney responded that termination would be automatic
if no action has been taken within a three year period, or if work
has not materially commenced. Attorney Barney stated that it takes
an affirmative act to terminate a subdivision because subdivisions
are more procedure bound than site plans due to the map being
signed and filed in the County Clerk's Office. Attorney Barney
stated that to put the County Clerk's Office and anyone who is
buying under that subdivision map on notice there has been a
termination, by a notice sent by the Town Planner for recording in
the County Clerk's office. Attorney Barney stated that anyone has
the right to come before the Board and apply for an extension of
time as long as they can show reason for the extension. Attorney
Barney stated that the extinguishment process would have an appeals
process, which would come before the Board. If the Town Planning
Board grants the extension, then an additional notice would be sent
to the County Clerk's office stating that the prior notice is not
applicable. Attorney Barney stated that if a termination occurs,
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the notice would be provided personally or by certified mail to the
developer or subdivider.
Chairperson
Kenerson
asked if
the land
reverted back to the
state which the
land was
in prior
to the
would
subdivision.
open or fair procedure.
Attorney Barney stated that if a subdivision is terminated the
zoning would be applicable to the majority of the perimeter of the
area subdivided.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter addressed the Board and stated
that because subdivisions are filed with the County Clerk's Office
and are created only through a Public Hearing, it would be a
possibility to include language in this amendment that would call
for a Public Hearing to extinguish a subdivision rather than being
done by the Town Planner as an administrative task. Mr. Kanter
stated that this might be a policy decision that the Planning Board
would need to make. Mr. Kanter stated that a Public Hearing would
be required if the extinguishment were challenged.
Chairperson Kenerson asked if the Planning Board concurred
with the proposed amendment and makes a recommendation to the Town
Board, who then enacts the amendment.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that the Planning Board
enacts the amendment to the Subdivision Regulations, and the
enactment needs to be approved by the Town Board. Attorney Barney
stated that the Town Board could not modify the amendment but they
could approve it or disapprove it.
Board Member Eva Hoffmann asked Town Planner Jonathan Kanter
what the reason for his suggestion of a Public Hearing would be
before terminating a subdivision approval.
Mr. Kanter responded
that it would make
it a
public event as
a matter of course for every
extinguishment
instead of just those
terminations which would
be contested which
would
make it a more
open or fair procedure.
Mr. Kanter stated
that
it would be an
action by the Planning
Board rather- than an
administrative
procedure.
Board Member Candace Cornell, referring to Page 1, Item 3(a)
of the proposed Resolution amending the Subdivision Regulations to
Provide for Extinguishment of Subdivision Approvals of Abandoned
Subdivisions, asked what would happen if something was materially
commenced 15 years ago and then stopped. (Said Resolution is
attached hereto as Exhibit #1)
Town Attorney John Barney stated that if that occurred, the
Town would revert to New York State Law which states that a lot
that is in an approved subdivision maintains vitality for 2 or 3
years and then is subject to any change in regulations that may
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occur.
Board Member Candace
should be a Public Hearing
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Cornell
stated
that
she felt that there
in the
event
of an
extinguishment.
wished to
Attorney Barney stated that he felt that not having the public
hearing shifts the responsibility to the developer or subdivider if
they want to preserve the project. Also, if the Public Hearing to
request an extension is the responsibility of the developer, the
cost would be that of the developer instead of the Town.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that the way the proposal
is worded, the notice being filed would be of extinguishment, not
of the intent to extinguish, which gets filed with the County Clerk
with the original plat, and the procedure says that if the
developer comes in with the request to override the extinguishment,
and the Planning Board approves that request, then the Town Planner
would need to send an additional notice to the County Clerk stating
that the previous notice is obsolete and that the original final
approval is okay. Mr. Kanter stated that this could cause a lot of
confusion, due to the necessary tracking.
Board Member Herbert Finch addressed the Board and stated that
he is also a member of the Codes and Ordinance Committee and that
he felt that the intent was to have the Ordinance set the policy
and that it then becomes an administrative matter to implement
based on that policy.
Town Engineer Daniel Walker addressed the Board and stated
that there would be a lot of work to administer this policy. One
is continuing monitoring of tax parcels and owners, one would be
tax deed searches for every parcel that has been subdivided before
we make the determination that the deed hasn't been transferred.
Mr. Walker stated that a 2 -lot subdivision would not be any
problem, but a large subdivision could cause a lot of problems if
not completed in 5 years. Mr. Walker asked Town Attorney John
Barney if the Town would have to file a plat consolidating lots
that are left undeveloped and /or unsold since it has been filed at
the Clerk's Office showing many lots.
Attorney Barney stated that as a practical matter, the Board
probably would not terminate that subdivision.
Chairperson
Kenerson
noted
that this
was a Public Hearing and
asked if anyone
from the
public
wished to
speak.
Ed Hallberg of 31 Judd Falls Plaza, asked Town Attorney John
Barney why the Town needed this amendment if there was already a
State Law.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that it was a State Law that
deals with an upzoning, and this law would be applied across the
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Board when there is an inactive subdivision.
Mr. Hallberg stated that this amendment puts a gun to a
developers head to complete a development whether it is financially
feasible or not.
Board Member Candace Cornell asked where the time of three
years came from.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that the majority of
subdivisions are completed within three years, and the three year
time limit starts at Final Approval.
Mr. Hallberg asked why the Town of Ithaca needs the amendment.
Board Member Candace Cornell responded that the Town needs to
keep the decision making current with the knowledge base of
building, zoning, and environmental issues that effect the Town and
its' residents. Ms. Cornell stated that she did not know if three
years was the right amount of time.
Board
Member Eva Hoffmann stated that
she
was under the
impression
that when a developer came to the
Board
with a request
for subdivision
approval that the request was
made
with the intent
to go ahead
and develop as soon as possible, and if
something comes
up that prevents
the proposed development,
it has
always been
possible to
come in and ask to change things.
Board Member Candace Cornell asked what the process for an
extension would be.
Town
Attorney
John
Barney
stated that Paragraph
6 of the
proposed
resolution
explains
the
procedure for an extension.
Ed Hallberg addressed the Board and stated that if he were
going to invest in the Town of Ithaca with the threat of the sunset
provision hanging over his head, he would do just the opposite of
what was in the Comprehensive Plan. People are buying existing
road frontage and cutting it into at -right subdivided lots with
minimum lot size. Scenic views will be gone, reasonable planning
will be gone, safe low traffic neighborhoods will be gone because
the sunset provision will exacerbate this. Mr. Hallberg stated
that three years is a very, very short time span.
Board Member Candace Cornell asked what sort of time frame Mr
Hallberg felt was fair.
Mr. Hallberg responded, 50 years..
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Board Member Eva Hoffmann asked Mr. Hallberg if he found
himself in a situation where he was unable to develop if he would
want to come before the Board with a new proposal layout.
Mr. Hallberg responded that if he came in to the Planning
Board with what he considers a hardship the Planning Board would
not necessarily consider his situation a hardship, and he could
then be turned down.
Mr. Hallberg asked that the Planning Board table the issue
until either the Codes and Ordinance Committee or the Planning
Board consulted with developers before taking any action to listen
to the people that will be most effected by the proposal.
Board Member Herbert Finch stated that the sunset provision
was intended to focus on subdivisions that have been abandoned, not
on a development where someone is attempting to do something with
its
Mr. Hallberg stated that he felt that three years was a
ridiculously short period of time.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that the Board could consider
a different number for the limitation period.
Chairperson Kenerson stated that if there was a real intent to
complete a development, then the Board would probably encourage it,
but if there is not real intent to complete the proposal then
revert the subdivision back to its prior state.
Bruno Schickel addressed the Board and stated that he was
strongly opposed to the proposed resolution. Mr. Schickel's
reasons for opposing the proposed resolution were due to the impact
on staff time and the cost to implement the proposal as discussed
earlier, and because he sees no need for the provision. Mr.
Schickel stated that this would allow for only small areas to be
developed at any given time. Mr. Schickel stated that the
intentions of the Planning Board now, versus the intention of a
future Planning Board could be very different 10 years from now.
Mr. Schickel stated that he did not feel that the Town of Ithaca
needed the sunset provision to accomplish what was intended with
the problem of abandoned subdivisions because the Town has the
mechanisms to deal with the problem.
Mr. Schickel stated that the value of the land would be much
greater with the subdivision approval because it has already gone
through the subdivision process.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that the Board wants to give
the developer a reasonable amount of time to use that investment
that they are making to accomplish what they set out to do,
however, it would not be unreasonable for a municipality to say
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that if at some point in time the developer is unable to proceed,
then reapply for a development that may be more possible. Attorney
Barney stated that although 3 years may not be enough, 50 years is
not a reasonable amount of time either. Attorney Barney stated
that according to the proposed amendment the infrastructure needed
to be completed within 5 years.
Mr. Schickel state that he felt there should be a minimum of
15 years.
Board Member Candace Cornell asked Mr. Schickel whether he
felt that completing infrastructure within five years may not be
enough time. Ms. Cornell then asked Mr. Schickel how much time he
felt he would need between final subdivision approval and breaking
ground to do something intent to complete.
Mr. Schickel stated that the Planning Board needed to discuss
this matter with some developers. Mr. Schickel stated that there
were a lot of repercussions that he does not feel the proposed
resolution would deal with.
Chairperson Kenerson again noted that this was a Public
Hearing and asked if there was anyone else present who wished to
speak.
Jerold Weisburd of 167 Calkins Road,
addressed
the Board and
stated that he felt that the Board was
discussing a situation
where
a development had already received final
approval,
and that the
Board could require a double- staged final
approval.
Mr. Weisburd
stated that the development would
not
be final. until the
infrastructure was completed.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter addressed the Board and stated
that the phased approval process gives preliminary approval to the
whole subdivision. A request for final approval on Phase 1 to
consist of a smaller number of lots would delay triggering the time
limitations on the overall development until the developer receives
final approval on a phase by phase basis.
Chairperson Kenerson asked if anyone else present wished to
speak on this matter. No one spoke. Chairperson Kenerson closed
the Public Hearing and brought the matter back to the Board for
discussion.
Chairperson Kenerson addressed the Board and stated that the
Board had several options: 1) Adjourn and refer back to the Codes
and ordinance Committee for further research to include developers,
who will be directly involved with the process, 2) Approve it as
presented to the Board, 3) Adjust the document and then approve it,
or 4) Decide that the Town does not need the sunset provision at
all.
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Board Member Candace Cornell stated
that
she
felt
that the
policy was needed, but that she did not
want
to
approve it as
presented to the Planning Board at this
meeting.
Ms.
Cornell
stated that she would like to speak with
developers
or
refer it
back to the Codes and Ordinance Committee
to
speak
to some
developers.
Chairperson Kenerson stated that the Board should express
which concerns needed to be further addressed.
Ms. Cornell stated that her concerns were the three year and
the five year limitations. Ms. Cornell stated that phasing allows
for long range planned development. Ms. Cornell stated that she
was not sure that three years was enough time, and that she did not
have enough evidence to vote on three years.
MOTION by Herbert Finch, seconded by George Bayer.
RESOLVED, that the Town of Ithaca hereby recommends that the
Proposed Resolution for the Amendment to the Town of Ithaca
Subdivision Regulations to Provide for Extinguishment of
Subdivision Approvals of Abandoned Subdivisions be referred back to
the Codes and Ordinance Committee for further research and review.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Ainslie, Finch, Bayer.
Nay - Hoffmann, Cornell, Kenerson.
The MOTION was declared to be denied.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that he did not feel that the
Codes and Ordinance Committee would have any greater expertise than
the Planning Board with regard to the timing issue. If the Board
is most concerned with the time frame involved they should defer
the action until they could meet with developers and discuss the
matter with the Planning Board at a public informational meeting.
MOTION by Candace Cornell, seconded by Eva Hoffmann.
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board hold an informational
meeting and invite developers, representatives from Homebuilders
Association, and builders from the area to discuss the Proposed
Resolution for the Amendment to the Town of Ithaca Subdivision
Regulations to Provide for Extinguishment of Subdivision Approvals
of Abandoned Subdivisions, by the end of January 1995.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
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Aye - Kenerson, Bayer, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Cornell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Kenerson declared the discussion of the Proposed
Resolution for the Amendment to the Town of Ithaca Subdivision
Regulations to Provide for Extinguishment of Subdivision Approvals
of Abandoned Subdivisions to be duly closed at 9:01 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL SITE
PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED MODIFIED SITE PLAN OF EAST HILL
PLAZA FOR THE PURPOSE OF RENOVATING AN INTERIOR SPACE OF
APPROXIMATELY 61000 + /- SQUARE FEET TO BE OCCUPIED BY CORNELL
UNIVERSITY'S PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER
OF JUDD FALLS ROAD AND ELLIS HOLLOW ROAD, TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL
NO. 62 -2- 1.121, 9.16 + /- ACRES TOTAL AREA, BUSINESS DISTRICT C.
CORNELL UNIVERSITY, OWNER /APPLICANT; BONNIE VANAMBURG, AGENT.
Chairperson Kenerson declared the Public Hearing in the above -
noted matter duly opened at 9:02 p.m. and read aloud from the
Notice of Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted
above.
Larry Hatzlien, architect for Cornell University, addressed
the Board and stated the request was for a 6,000 square foot office
space to be renovated to hold the Purchasing Department for Cornell
University, with no change in use or parking requirements. Mr.
Hatzlien stated that the proposal included the conversion of two
standard restrooms into handicapped restrooms. Mr. Hatzlien stated
that there would be a beautification of the back of the building to
include painting the building, improvement of entrance areas, and
enclosure of equipment areas and dumpsters.
Chairperson Kenerson asked if the building was equipped with
sprinklers.
Mr. Hatzlien responded, yes.
Chairperson Kenerson asked if there would be any signs for
consideration of the Board.
Mr. Hatzlien responded that there would be a sign identifying
the rear entrance to the Purchasing Department on the building
itself.
Board Member Herbert Finch asked if the plans included
landscaping.
Mr. Hatzlien responded that there would be landscaping plans,
but not as part of this approval process. He also indicated that
they would be coming back to the Board with plans to improve the
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rear parking area in the future.
Chairperson Kenerson noted that this was a Public Hearing and
asked if anyone from the public wished to speak. No one spoke.
Chairperson Kenerson closed the Public Hearing and brought the
matter back to the Board.
There being no further discussion, Chairperson Kenerson asked
if anyone were prepared to offer a motion.
MOTION by Candace Cornell,
WHEREAS:
seconded by Herbert Finch.
14 This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site
Plan Approval for the proposed modifications to 6,000 +/-
square feet of interior office space so that Cornell can move
its Purchasing Department from 120 Maple Ave. to space
currently being occupied by the Lab of Nuclear Studies at East
Hill Plaza corner of Judd Falls Road and Ellis Hollow Road,
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 62 -2- 1.121, Business District C,
Cornell University, Owner; Bonnie J. VanAmburg, Agent.
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board is legislatively determined to act as Lead
Agency in environmental review with respect to Site Plan
Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on November 15,
1994, has reviewed and accepted as adequate the Short
Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the
applicant, a Part II prepared by the Planning staff, and a
site plan entitled "East Hill Plaza," dated November, 1994,
prepared by Cornell University, and additional application
materials, and
4. The Town Planning staff have recommended a negative
determination of environmental significance with respect to
the proposed site plan, as proposed;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED.
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative
determination of environmental significance in accordance with
the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act for the
above referenced action as proposed and, therefore, neither a
Full Environmental Assessment Form nor an Environmental Impact
Statement will be required.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
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Aye - Kenerson, Bayer, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Cornell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
MOTION by Candace Cornell,
WHEREAS:
seconded by James Ainslie:
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final Site
Plan Approval for the proposed modifications to 6,000 +/-
square feet of interior office space so that Cornell can move
its Purchasing Department from 120 Maple Ave. to space
currently being occupied by the Lab of Nuclear Studies at East
Hill Plaza corner of Judd Falls Road and Ellis Hollow Road,
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 62 -2 1.121, Business District C,
Cornell University, Owner, Bonnie J. VanAmburg, Agent.
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board, acting as Lead Agency in environmental review,
has, on November 15, 1994, made a negative determination of
environmental significance, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing on November 15, 1994,
has reviewed and accepted as adequate the Short Environmental
Assessment Form Part I prepared by the applicant, a Part II
prepared by the Planning staff, and a site plan entitled "East
Hill Plaza," and dated November, 1994, prepared by Cornell
University, and additional application materials.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
16 That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain
requirements for Preliminary and Final Site Plan Approval, as
shown on the Preliminary and Final Site Plan Checklist, having
determined from the materials presented that such waiver will
result in neither a significant alteration of the purpose of
site plan control nor the policies enunciated or implied by
the Town Board, and
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final
Site Plan Approval for the proposed site plan modification
entitled "East Hill Plaza ", and dated November, 1994, prepared
by Cornell University, subject to the following condition:
Submission of an original and two copies of the final site
plan, revised to include the conditions shown on the Final
Site Plan Checklist attached, for approval by the Town
Engineer and Town Planner.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
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Aye - Kenerson, Bayer, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Finch, Cornell.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Chairperson Kenerson declared the matter of Preliminary and
Final Site Plan Approval for East Hill Plaza Interior Modifications
to be occupied by Cornell University's Purchasing Department duly
closed at 9:15 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM. DISCUSSION OF CONCEPT BY THE PALEONTOLOGICAL
RESEARCH INSTITUTION (PRI) TO SET UP A TEMPORARY OUTDOOR DISPLAY BY
DINAMATION OF DINOSAUR REPLICAS DURING THE SUMMER OF 1995,
INCLUDING MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE REGARDING ACCESS, PARKING,
CIRCULATION, AND A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE FOR SOUVENIR /GIFT SALES,
LOCATED AT 1259 TRUMANSBURG ROAD, TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 24-
3-3.1, APPROXIMATELY 6.35 + /- ACRES TOTAL AREA, RESIDENCE DISTRICT
R -30. PALEONTOLOGICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTION, OWNER /APPLICANT;
WARREN ALLMON. AGENT.
Chairperson Kenerson declared the above -noted matter duly
opened and read aloud from the Planning Board agenda.
Board Member George Bayer asked how big the replicas would.be.
Warren Allmon, representative for the Paleontological Research
Institution, responded that the replicas would be life- sized.
Board Member Candace Cornell asked what the surface would be
for parking.
Mr. Allmon responded that the vehicles would park on the grass
so that the grass could grow back. Mr. Allmon responded that the
gift shop and the exhibits would be inside a building. In
responding to a question about whether the replicas would be on
display outdoors, Mr. Allmon stated in past years, that the skin of
the dinosaurs would be damaged by the sun's UV radiation, but that
the skins have now been improved so that they could be displayed
outside without any damage.
Board Member James Ainslie asked if the dinosaurs would have
voices or make noise.
Mr. Allmon responded that the dinosaurs would roar.
Board Member George Bayer asked if the replicas would be
visible from the road.
Mr. Allmon responded that they would be visible from the road
as they are life -size. Mr. Allmon stated that the only conceivable
problem was the speed limit and that there would be a gravel pull -
off to make it safer pulling into and out of the PRI driveway. Mr.
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Allmon indicated that he had spoken with Mr. Joseph Ciaschi about
using his exit drive during the temporary exhibit, and that Mr.
Ciaschi was agreeable to this.
The Board discussed parking requirements, location, and
adequacy.
Mr. Allmon stated that the site has room for parking 75 - 100
cars and that a person would be paid to direct
cars to appropriate
parking spaces, and that there would be guards
on the premises 24
hours a day as required by Dinamation. Mr.
Allmon stated that
there would be some electrical wiring as well as a compressor since
the dinosaurs' movements are hydraulic. Mr.
Allmon stated that
there had been discussions with Mr. Joseph
Ciaschi regarding
overflow parking and that he could discuss the possibility of using
his lot for that purpose on the weekends. Mr.
Allmon stated that
they would be charging admission and that they
would be asking the
Board for special approval for temporary use on
that site.
Ms. Cornell indicated that it would be important to explore
other options for overflow parking.
Mr. Allmon indicated that he may propose off -site signs to
direct people to the exhibit from surrounding areas.
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz pointed out that he did
not think that the Town Sign Law allows off premises advertising
signs.
Chairperson Kenerson declared the matter of the Concept by the
Paleontological Research Institution for a temporary Dinamation
display to be closed and directed Mr. Allmon to come back to the
Board with a Preliminary Site Plan and application for Special
Approval.
AGENDA ITEM. CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD
WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED REZONING OF A 30 +/- ACRE PORTION OF
TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 28 -1 -26.2, THE NORTH LINE OF SAID
AREA BEING LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 21150 FEET SOUTH LINE OF
MECKLENBURG ROAD (NYS ROUTE 79), THE EAST LINE BEING LOCATED
APPROXIMATELY 1,500 FEET WEST OF WEST HAVEN ROAD, THE SOUTH BEING
LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 800 FEET NORTH OF ELM STREET EXTENSION. SAID
PROPOSAL WOULD CHANGE THE ZONING FROM RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -30 TO
SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT (SLUD). ECOVILLAGE AT ITHACA, INC.
OWNER; FIRST RESIDENTS' GROUP, APPLICANT; CLAUDIA AND JEROLD
WEISBURD, AGENTS.
Chairperson
Kenerson
declared
the
above -noted matter duly
opened and read
aloud from
the
Planning
Board agenda.
Jerold
Weisburd
of 167 Calkins Road,
addressed the Board
and
stated that
they were
distributing comments
on the November 4,
1994
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draft of the SLUD for EcoVillage, and asked that the Board review
the comments with them at this meeting.
The Planning Board
discussed the issue of
home occupations
and
limitations. The First
Residents Group felt
that 4 offices in
the
Common House were too few, and asked that they
be allowed 30 in
the
common house and /or in
the individual homes.
The consensus of
the
Board seemed to be that
30 offices would make the Common House
into
an office complex, and
that 30 offices were too many.
Daryl Anderson, a member of the First Residents' Group,
addressed the Board and stated that he wanted to have the option at
some point in the future to have an office in the common house and
limiting them to 4 offices gives no future flexibility.
Frank Thomas, a member of the First Residents' Group,
addressed the Board and stated that he felt that being able to
combine resources with other residents would be for the greater
good of the community. Mr. Thomas stated that the 4 allotted
offices have already been reserved by potential residents.
chairperson Kenerson asked what the Residents' Group felt
would be fair.
Mr. Thomas responded that he wanted the option to come in if
any modifications were necessary, with 30 total either in houses or
in the Common House.
Jerold Weisburd suggested that there be up to 15 offices in
the Common House with no more than 15 in the homes themselves.
Claudia Weisburd stated that if this were a traditional
subdivision, there would be no limit on the number of home
occupations you could have.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that 30 would be the limit
with only one home occupation allowed per household. Attorney
Barney stated, "What bothers me about this is that every time you
(First Residents' Group) come in here, all of a sudden we are being
asked to move a little further away from what the zoning, planning,
and everything else was. We are now looking at a piece of land
that is 2,000 feet away from the road, stretching the rules a great
distance to allow that to happen. Now you are saying that you want
the opportunity to put up to 15 offices, without any limiting
factors, in a building in the middle of what is supposed to be a
residential project. We would never even consider that at all in
other residential communities. And you don't have the limiting
factor of kids in the room next door making it impossible to
communicate on the telephone. So, I have a great deal of
difficulty with constantly pushing against the envelope because the
basis on which this is sold to this board is because it is going to
be an Ecovillage, we need small houses, it will be ecologically
Planning Board Minutes 15 November 15, 1994
sound, residential
only a residential
community.
community but
Now you are
it is also
as well.
Fifteen
offices are a
is
lot."
saying that it is not
a multi - office facility
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that if this were a
standard subdivision, 30 individual offices would be allowed within
30 individual dwellings, but several people together pooling
resources, it changes things, because offices in an individual home
is self limited. Thirty offices in one building is an office
building.
Assistant Town Planner
George
Frantz
stated that it is
important to remember
that the Board
is
dealing
with home
occupations, as defined
in the Town's
Zoning
Ordinance,
which is
one person working out
of their home
with the
ability
to hire no
more than three non - resident
persons.
This comes
to 4
employees
per office.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that he wanted to urge
people not to underestimate the number of parking spaces that will
be needed. The number of trips coming in for employees and
customers could be high impacting types of uses that could be in
there. Mr. Kanter stated that there was a need to put some caps on
what is allowed in the Common House.
Board Member James Ainslie stated that he thought that the
agreement, as far as parking is concerned, was that the cooperative
would take care of that and put additional spaces in if and when
needed.
Board Member Candace Cornell
restrictions and requirements built
no leverage if they decide they
additional parking spaces in.
stated that if we don't have
into the law, then the Town has
do not have the money to put
Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that she feels a great deal
of conflict at these meetings because things keep changing from the
original presentation.
Board Member George Bayer stated that the Board should ask the
Residents' Group to limit the type of occupations that would be
allowed.
Ms. Weisburd stated that the Residents' Group was asking for
what was permitted in an R -30 zone, and that they be allowed to be
clustered together. Ms. Weisburd stated that she wanted to find a
number between the 4, which the Residents' Group feels is too low,
and 15, which the Board feels is too high. Ms. Weisburd suggested
6 offices be allowed in the Common House.
Mr. Anderson addressed the Board and stated that all they were
asking for was some flexibility for the future.
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Mr. Weisburd asked the Board to consider 6 offices or up to
150 of floor space of the Common House.
Board Member Candace Cornell asked if that was with or without
changing or limiting the occupations.
Mr. Weisburd responded, without changing occupations.
Ms. Cornell suggested tabling this discussion to a future
meeting to allow the Board time to review the points raised in the
Weisburd's letter of November 15, 1994, a copy of which is attached
to these minutes. (See Exhibit #2)
Mary Webber, a member of the First Residents' Group, addressed
the Board and stated that her main concern was that they were
expected to finish the infrastructure before building their homes.
Ms. Webber stated that the First Residents' Group are the
developers, and she felt that the Planning Board should leave it to
the certificates of occupancy to control. when they could move into
the homes.
Town Engineer Daniel Walker stated that the road needed to be
built so that there would be access, there must be a gravel road
for entrance to the property during construction. Mr. Walker
stated that before he would approve anything, as Town Engineer, he
would want to see a definite, complete construction plan, full
funding mechanisms, escrow accounts, and controls on that.
Ms. Weisburd stated that she felt that everyone needed to take
the time to read the new material and then get together again to
try to come to an agreement.
Chairperson Kenerson declared the discussion regarding the
Special Land Use District for the proposed EcoVillage project duly
tabled until a future Planning Board meeting, and asked staff to
schedule a meeting with the First Residents' Group to finalize the
details of the SLUD for the Board's consideration.
AGENDA ITEM. CONSIDERATION OF (A) DRAFT RESOLUTION REGARDING
POSITIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANCE AND (B)
PRELIMINARY DRAFT SCOPING OUTLINE TO DETERMINE CONTENT OF DRAFT
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT FOR THE PROPOSED ITHACARE SENIOR
LIVING COMMUNITY. PROPOSED TO CONSIST OF A 1151000 + /- SQUARE FOOT
BUILDING WITH 60 ADULT CARE UNITS, 20 ASSISTED LIVING UNITS, AND 80
INDEPENDENT LIVING UNITS, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF DANBY ROAD
APPROXIMATELY 2,000 FEET SOUTH OF THE ENTRANCE TO ITHACA COLLEGE,
ON THAT 28 +/- ACRE PORTION OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 39 -1-
1.3, DESIGNATED AS SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT NO. 7. ITHACARE,
INC., APPLICANT; MARK MACERA., AGENT.
- Chairperson Kenerson declared the above -noted matter duly
opened at 10:51 p.m. and read aloud from the Planning Board agenda.
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Town Attorney John Barney stated that he had drafted a
resolution regarding Positive Declaration of Environmental
Significance in accordance with the Court decision. Attorney
Barney stated that a notice of appeal was filed on November 14,
1994, so there is technically an appeal pending. Attorney Barney
suggested that the Board review the proposed resolution of Positive
Declaration and the Preliminary Draft Scoping outline for the
Environmental Impact Statement, and consider the matter at the
Board's December 6, 1994 meeting, at which time action can be
taken. Attorney Barney stated that in the meantime, several
representatives from the Town will meet with representatives from
Ithacare to discuss the two documents referred t above. The
Planning Board could hold a Public Scoping Hearing at the December
20, 1994 meeting, and then approve it at the January 3, 1995
meeting. Attorney Barney stated that the reason the resolution was
drafted this way was to preserve the Town's ability through the
course of the appeal to say if the judge has his decision
overruled, then this resolution is rescinded by virtue of the
overruling. But in the meantime, pending the appeal, we will
proceed with the EIS process and do it by the book.
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that she felt that there
should be a Public Hearing for the Scoping.
Attorney Barney stated that public input was not mandatory,
but given the nature of this proposal, it would make sense to have
one.
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that she felt that when
ever there is a positive declaration there should be public input.
Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that using the scoping
checklist as the basis for the Preliminary Draft Scoping Outline
gives the Board an idea of what the fullest Environmental Impact
Statement could have if it were going to cover all subjects. Mr.
Kanter stated that the Board needed to narrow down the subjects to
be covered by the EIS and to expand within each of those subjects
exactly what that means, what would be covered, and how it would be
covered. Mr. Kanter stated that he wanted to set up a meeting with
the applicants to discuss the scoping outline, refine it, and then
bring it back to the Board.
Chairperson Kenerson declared the discussion of Ithacare duly
adjourned until December 6, 19940
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AGENDA ITEM. OTHER BUSINESS.
Chairperson Kenerson stated that there was
the annual
meeting
of the Association of
Towns in New York City on
February 19
through
February 22, 1995,
and asked if anyone felt
that they
may be
interested in going
to let Town Planner Jonathan
Kanter
know so
that he may check the
budget to verify that the
funds were
there to
send
those
interested
in attending.
Board Members Candace Cornell and George Bayer expressed an
interest in attending. Town Planner Jonathan Kanter stated that he
would like to try to attend as well.
Chairperson Kenerson stated that Board Member Candace
Cornell's term on the Planning Board expired on December 31, 1994
and that there needed to be an interviewing committee to fill that
position on the Board.
Chairperson Kenerson appointed Herbert Finch and Stephen Smith
to the Interviewing Committee as representatives for the Planning
Board.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon Motion, Chairperson Kenerson declared the November 15,
1994 meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board duly closed at
11:11 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
StarrRae Hays,
Recording Secretary,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board.
11/18/94.
C,
TOWN OF ITHACA
RESOLUTION AMENDING THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS
TO PROVIDE FOR EXTINGUISHMENT OF SUBDIVISION APPROVALS OF
ABANDONED SUBDIVISIONS
BE IT RESOLVED that the Subdivision Regulations for the Town of Ithaca as adopted by the
Town Planning Board on March 24, 1956 and approved by the Town Board on March 24, 1956,
as amended by the Planning Board on several subsequent occasions, the most recent being _
, 1993, as approved by the Town Board on
, 1993, be further amended by adding a new Article VII, Section
39, reading as follows:
"ARTICLE V11
EXPIRATION OF SUBDIVISION APPROVAL
Section 39. Expiration of Subdivision Approval.
1. In addition to any other provisions of law governing expiration of subdivision approvals,
including those provisions which provide the subdivision approval expires if the approved
subdivision map is not filed- with the Tompkins County Clerk within a specified time of approval,
a subdivision approval will also terminate under the circumstances set forth below.
2. If the proposed subdivision requires construction of any facilities such as roads, drainage courses,
water or sewer lines, or other similar facilities, unless within thirty -six months of the date the
Planning Board gave final subdivision approval
(a) work has materially commenced on such facilities in accordance with the finally approved
subdivision plat, or
(b) one or more lots have been transferred from the developer and the deeds for same duly
recorded in the Tompkins County Clerk's Office,
the subdivision approval (both
final and preliminary) shall expire and
the permissible uses
and
construction on the property shall revert to those in effect prior to the granting of any subdivision
approval. Notwithstanding the
foregoing, if final subdivision approval
was granted prior to
July
191 1994, the time for work to
materially commence or lots to be sold
shall be extended to
July
19, 1997.
3. For the purposes of this Section 39
(a) work will not have "materially commenced" unless, at a minimum, (i) a building permit,
if required, has been obtained for at least one structure in the subdivision; and (ii)
construction equipment and tools consistent with the size of the proposed work have been
brought to and been used on the site; and (iii) significant construction of roads or
utilities, or significant framing, erection, or construction of a material structure, has been
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started and is being diligently pursued; and
(b) a lot will not have been "transferred" unless conveyed by a deed, duly executed and
recorded in the Tompkins County Clerk's Office, to (i) a person unrelated to the
subdivider in a bona tide transaction for value, or (ii) a person related to the subdivider
or for less than reasonable value in accordance with circumstances related to the Planning
Board as part of the subdivision approval (e.g. a subdivision where; the intention is to
convey a lot to a relative or to convey a lot to an adjacent landowner for less than full
value).
40 If the proposed subdivision does not require the construction of any facilities, the subdivision
approval (both final and preliminary) shall expire within the time limits set forth above with the
consequences set forth above and subject to the ability to obtain extensions as set forth below,
unless at least one lot of the subdivision has been transferred.
5. In addition to the foregoing, a subdivision approval for a subdivision requiring construction of
facilities shall likewise terminate as to any untransferred lots in the event that the facilities are
not substantially completed within five years of the date of final subdivision approval.
6. The Planning Board, upon request of the subdivider, after a public hearing, and upon a finding
that the imposition of the time limits set forth above in paragraphs 2, 4 and 5 would create an
undue hardship on the subdivider, may extend the time limits for such additional periods as the
Planning Board may reasonably determine. An application for such extension may be made at
the time of filing of the original application or at any time thereafter up to, but no later than, six
months after the expiration of the time limits set forth above.
7. In the event of any termination of subdivision approval pursuant to these provisions, the Planning
Board or Town Planner shall cause a notice of such termination to be delivered personally to the
subdivider, or forwarded by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the subdivider at the last
address for the subdivider on file at the Town of Ithaca Planning Department and shall cause a
copy of such notice, together with an affidavit of service (personally or by mail) to be recorded
in the Tompkins County Clerk's Office in Miscellaneous Records or other appropriate location.
80 Any subdivider who believes the termination of approval pursuant to this section is not warranted
may file an application for a hearing before the Planning Board. Such application shall be filed
within 30 days of the delivery of the notice referred to above (for this purpose "delivery" shall
be deemed to occur on the date the notice is personally delivered or the day it is delivered to the
postal service for mailing). The Planning Board shall hold a public hearing on such application
on at least five days prior notice given in the same manner as required for public hearings on
subdivision approvals, within 60 days of receipt such application. The burden of establishing that
the approval should not be terminated shall rest upon the applicant. If die Planning Board
determines that the approval was improperly terminated, it shall render a decision so stating and
shall cause a notice to that effect to be forwarded to the Tompkins County Clerk's Office for
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recording in the same location as the notice previously effecting such termination. Any
determination of the Planning Board regarding such termination may be reviewed by a proceeding
brought pursuant to Article 78 of the Civil Procedure Law and Rules. Such proceeding shall be
commenced no later than 30 days after the decision being reviewed has been filed by the Planning
Board with the appropriate Town Clerk,
9. Nothing in this section 39 is intended to alter the effect of Town Law Section 265 -a on lots in
a subdivision when zoning is changed to increase lot sizes or other requirements thereby
rendering an existing subdivision's lots non - conforming.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this amendment to the Subdivision Regulations take
effect upon approval of same by the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca.
Residents Group
c/o House Craft Builders
PO Box 640
Ithaca, New York
November 15, 1994
Mr. Jonathan Kanter
Town Planner
Town of Ithaca
Ithaca, New York
Dear Jonathan:
We just received a copy of what is marked Final Draft for the SLUD. There are some
major items that we still feel need significant attention.
1. Office space in the Common House. For reasons already explained, people want to be able to
locate their home offices in the Common House rather than in their private dwelling. Since this
location latitude has no effect on the number of home occupations otherwise permitted in the
zoning, but simply allows them to more efficiently `clustered', we see no rationale for limiting the
number permissible in the common house. We request that Section 3 (page 5) be changed as
follows:
Offices or occupations as set forth in paragraphs 1 and 2 above may be conducted IN
THE DWELLING OR IN THE COMMON HOUSE provided:
(a) (no change)
(b) DELETE
(c) DELETE
(d) - (g) (no change)
2. The provisions on the primary and secondary road referring to distance to dwellings are not
accurate. The primary road does not go to within 100' of all dwelling units. Neither does the
secondary road go to within 100' of all dwelling units. Rather, emergency access will be provided
to within 100' of each building by either the primary or the secondary access road. We suggest
Sections K and L (page 9) be modified as follows:
K. 1. GOOD AND MARKETABLE FEE TITLE .... FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A
ROAD FROM ROUTE 79 (MECKLENBURG ROAD) AS SHOWN ON THE FINAL SITE
PLAN.
L. 1. GOOD AND MARKETABLE TITLE ... FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN
EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD FROM WEST HAVEN ROAD, AS SHOWN ON THE FINAL
SITE PLAN.
ADD: EMERGENCY VEHICLES WILL HAVE ACCESS TO WITHIN 100' OF ALL
BUILDINGS EITHER VIA THE PRIMARY ACCESS ROAD OR VIA THE SECONDARY
ACCESS ROAD.
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3. Section M (page 10) refers to `Elimination of Cul de Sac.' As mentioned previously, we do
not want to get into differences of interpretation of the meaning of cul de sac. We suggest you
eliminate the title, and modify as follows:
M. ADDITIONAL ROADWAY. NO LATER THAN SIX YEARS FORM .... THE
OWNER OR OWNERS OF THE SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT SHALL, AT THEIR
COST AND EXPENSE, CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL ROADWAY ACCESS BY ANY OF
THE FOLLOWING MEANS:
1 ..... OR
2.....
3.....
No building permits shall be issued for more than 30 dwelling units and one community
center, PLUS PERMITTED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, in the Special Land Use District,
until the conditions 1., 2., OR 3. above have been met, or have been waived by the Town of
Ithaca Town Board.
4. You have received a letter from the residents about the hardships created by the permitted
schedule you have outlined in the SLUD: that the road be completely financed prior to issuance
of any permits at all, and that water and sewer be finished prior to issuing more than 10. You
have responded to the concerns of the residents somewhat with respect to the sewer and water,
but not as far as the road. Unfortunately, the conditions you have laid out in the present draft still
cause the following problems for the group:
(a) Significant delay to start of house construction, if need to wait until road is finished.
This makes it more difficult to get bridge loans, for those who need to sell houses in order to buy
their Eco Village home, and more difficult and costly to get construction financing for the houses;
(b) Delaying move -in dates for residents, especially difficult for people who are in
`temporary' quarters;
(c) Significantly restricts ability of contractor to move quickly and cost efficiently,
essential to keeping the houses affordable. Aim is to have a group of houses and the
infrastructure ready together, with the rest of the houses in various stages of construction ranging
from early to almost complete. At issue is the time gap between when the peak outlay of cash is
made by the group (completion of infrastructure) and the time they can get a. mortgage from the
bank and move in. The shorter this time is, the more affordable it is for the group.
This is not like an ordinary subdivision, where a developer could sell lots based on
infrastructure, then not complete the infrastructure, and leave the owners high and dry (so to
speak), who then appeal to the Town. This is an unusual situation. The developer is the future
residents who will be moving in, themselves. They can't `disappear'. These are their own homes
that they are building.
Therefore, we suggest that Section K.2. (page 9) read:
Construction of a road is COMMENCED in accordance with the applicable Town of
Ithaca highway specifications in effect at the time. (DELETE: prior to the issuance of ...)
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Section R. Provision of Sewer Facilities (page 12 -13)
We request that no limits be placed on the number of building permits, provided that
(1) no change
(2) no change
(3) no change
If you want to retain the waiver language, we would request that the number permitted
prior to needing a waiver be ten plus the Common House. It is very important to this group that
the Common House be built along with the earliest units to be moved into, and it would provide
temporary shop space for residents to work on aspects of house construction.
In addition, we request that the escrow amount for the sewer work be based on actual
contracts for the construction work; that is, that the residents can demonstrate that they have the
money to cover the cost of the work contracted, with a contract in hand for that amount.
Section R. 2. (d) (page 12) There is proof provided to the Town Engineer and Planning
Board that there is adequate financial support available to the developer to complete the line,
BASED UPON CONTRACT PRICES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, such proof being in the
form of....
With respect to Section R.2.(e): The Town Engineer will be called upon to verify that
construction has commenced and is progressing with sufficient rapidity. In addition, the Town
Engineer will verify the financial status. If these items, plus the other conditions have been met,
we do not see on what grounds the Town Engineer would deny recommendation of the waiver.
To streamline the process, to avoid more administrative work, and to avoid potential disputes
about unspecified areas of judgment, we suggest that this item (e) be deleted, especially since the
Planning Board, when confronted with a request, can take into account recommendations by the
Town Engineer and impose additional conditions.
5. With reference to Section S. Provision of Adequate Water Facilil
arguments are the same as for the sewer, outlined above. As above,
placed on permits, with the same provisions as above. Again, if you
language, we ask that the group be allowed permits for ten dwelling
House.
ies (page 13), the hardship
we would ask that no limit be
choose to keep the waiver
units plus the Common
In addition, Section S.2. (page 13): The water line is a private line. We were under the
impression that it had already been agreed that the water line need not be built to Town specs
because it is private, and because Town specs would pose a significant financial hardship.
We ask that this section 2 be deleted, with `water line' added to Section 3. That way, the
water lines and the pump station would be developed with the same parties, with commensurate
specifications. Section 3 would then read, "A pump station AND SUCH WATER LINES to be
owned and maintained..."
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As with the sewer, we ask that for Section (d) the adequacy of financial support be based
on the prices for which the group has contracted the work.
As with the sewer, we ask that Section (e) be deleted.
You have been very helpful in working through these details. However, because the
project is so very different from projects the Town has seen previously, it is demanding somewhat
different thinking. The uniqueness of the housing form - co- housing - coupled with the
uniqueness of the `developer' being the future residents themselves, coupled with the
environmental and planning principles being attempted, results in some complex points. We hope
we can work them through in a way that is satisfactory to all.
Sincerely,
Claudia Weisburd
House Craft Builders
for the Eco Village
Residents Group
El