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FINAL
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
MARCH 1, 1994
FILED
TOWN OF ITHACA
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The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on Tuesday, March 1,
1994, in Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street, Ithaca, New York, at 7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairperson Robert Kenerson, Vice - Chairperson Stephen Smith, Virginia
Langhans, Eva Hoffmann, James Ainslie, Candace Cornell, Daniel Walker (Town
Engineer) , George Frantz (Assistant Town Planner), Louise Raimondo (Planner
I), John Barney (Town Attorney).
ALSO PRESENT: Elena Salerno - Flash, Noel Desch, Richard Couch, John Yntema, Ephraim
Tomlinson III, Carl Guy, Chuck Brodhead, Fred Noetscher, Mark Macera,
James & Kathleen Teeter, Wendy Skinner, Amy Desson, George Sheldrake,
Ephraim Mark Tomlinson, William Albern, David St. George, Ben
Minteer, Robert Russcon, Tammo Steenhuis.
Vice - Chairperson Stephen Smith declared the meeting duly opened at 7:40 p.m. and
accepted for the record the Secretary's Affidavit of Posting and Publication of Notice
of Public Hearings in Town Hall and the Ithaca Journal on February 21, 1994, and
February 24, 1993, respectively together with the Secretary's Affidavit of Service by
Mail of said Notice upon the various neighbors of each of the properties under
discussion, as appropriate, upon the Clerks of the Town of Ithaca and the City of
Ithaca, upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Planning, upon the Tompkins County
Commissioner of Public Works, and upon the applicants and /or agents,, as appropriate, on
February 24, 19946
Vice - Chairperson Stephen Smith read the Fire Exit Regulations to those assembled,
as required by the New York State Department of State, Office of 'Fire Prevention and
Control.
AGENDA ITEM: PERSONS TO BE HEARD.
There were no persons present to be heard. Vice - Chairperson Stephen Smith closed
this segment of the meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY AND FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR THE
PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 39 -1 -1.3 66.6 + /- ACRES TOTAL, INTO
TWO LOTS, 27.5 + /- ACRES AND 39.1 + /- ACRES RESPECTIVELY, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF
DANBY ROAD APPROXIMATELY 2,000 FEET SOUTH OF THE ENTRANCE TO ITHACA COLLEGE, SPECIAL
LAND USE DISTRICT AND INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS DISTRICT. ITHACA COLLEGE, OWNER; ITHACARE,
INC., APPLICANT; MARK MACERA. AGENT.
Vice - Chairperson Stephen Smith declared the Public Hearing in the above -noted
matter duly opened at 7:42 p.m. and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as
posted and published and as noted above.
Mark Macera addressed the Board and stated that he had no presentation to make,
but was prepared to answer any questions that the Planning Board may have.
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz stated that all of the necessary information
was received and that it was a 2 -lot subdivision, staff had done an Environmental
Assessment of the project, and made the recommendation of negative determination of
environmental significance for this subdivision. Mr. Frantz stated that Town staff
recommended approval of the subdivision.
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Vice - Chairperson Smith noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if anyone
from the public wished to speak.
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that the action before the Planning Board was
subdivision of the land not site plan approval.
John Yntema of 933 Danby Road, addressed the Board and asked when the site plan
hearing would be held. Mr. Yntema stated that since the land had already been specified
as a Special Land Use District (SLUD), what is the purpose of the subdivision hearing.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that the subdivision hearing was a legal
requirement.
Mr. Yntema stated that instead of reading a letter which he had submitted to the
Planning Board and Town of Ithaca Staff, he would consider it read by mention of it.
(Mr. Yntema's letters are hereto attached as Exhibit #1) Mr. Yntema stated that he was
opposed to the subdivision because of what Ithacare intends to do with the property they
want to subdivide.
Vice - Chairperson Smith noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if anyone
else present wished to speak. No one spoke. Vice - Chairperson Smith closed the Public
Hearing and brought the matter back to the Board for discussion.
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that there is a lot of concern in the
community regarding the potential visual impact. Ms. Cornell stated that it would be
fair if the possible visual impacts were tested, by going to the site and setting up
balloons that would show the dimensions and height of the building. Ms. Cornell stated
that another suggestion would be video imaging.
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz stated
that the site
.line does show some
obstruction of the view of the hospital westward
and
southward to just south of Coy
Glen. The bulk of the West Hill massif will still
Frantz stated that there would be a complete view
that the view of Cayuga Lake, in his opinion, was
be
of
the
visible over, the building. Mr.
Cayuga Lake. Mr. Frantz stated
key view to be preserved.
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The Board discussed possible obstruction of the views from the overlook on Route
Board Member Candace Cornell asked if the building's location could be moved if
necessary.
Mark Macera responded this was a subdivision process, not a site plan process
before the Board tonight. Mr. Macera stated that nothing was concrete and could not be
changed. Mr. Macera stated that from the onset of this project there were no questions
that there would "block some view ", the question is are the amount of view that are
blocked significant. Mr. Macera stated that the idea of floating the balloons in order
to see where the roof lines could be. Mr. Macera stated that the building could be
relocated five feet down the hill or the roofs could be changed, there is flexibility
on the part of Ithacare.
Town Engineer Daniel Walker stated that the SLUD has set down is maximum elevation
and a footprint for the building in which the site plan which protects the wetland
areas, wildlife, and protected areas on the site. Mr. Walker stated that the use is
appropriate for the proposed site, which is what the SLUD set forth.. Mr. Walker stated
that after Ithacare gets the final assurance for the subdivision, then Ithacare would
begin the final design phase.
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Board Member Eva Hoffmann stated that she understood what Mr. Walker had stated,
but that she wanted to know if there was flexibility within the constraints set forth
within the SLUR.
Mark Macera responded and stated definitely. Mr. Macera stated that Ithacare
needed the subdivision approval prior to going into the design development with the
architects.
Planner I Louise Raimondo stated that Ithacare has addressed the concerns
regarding steep slopes, stream corridors, wetlands, and the views, from the start of the
project.
There being no further discussion, the Chair asked if anyone were prepared to
offer a motion.
MOTION by Candace Cornell, seconded by James Ainslie:
WHEREAS:
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval for
the proposed subdivision of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 1.3, 66.6 + /- acres
total, into two lots, 28.0 + /- and 38.6 + /- acres respectively, located on the west
side of Danby Road approximately 2,000 feet south of the entrance to Ithaca
College, Special Land Use District and Industrial Products District. Ithaca
College, Owner; Ithacare, Inc, Applicant; Mark Macera, Agent,
2. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is
legislatively determined to act as Lead Agency in environmental review with
respect to Subdivision Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on March 1, 1994, has reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I submitted by
the applicant, a Part II prepared by the Town planning staff, a subdivision plat
entitled "Final Plat Showing Lands to be Subdivided by Ithaca College Located
Between Danby Road and Stone Quarry Road, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New
York" prepared by Allen T. Fulkerson, L.S., and dated November 15, 1993, and
revised February 8, 1994, and other application materials, and
4. The Town planning staff has recommended a negative determination of environmental
significance with respect to the proposed action.
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That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination of
environmental significance in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality
Review Act for the above referenced action as proposed and, therefore, neither a Long
Environmental Assessment Form, nor an Environmental Impact Statement, will be required.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Kenerson, Langhans, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Cornell, Smith.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
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MOTION by Virginia Langhans, seconded by Candace Cornell:
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March 1, 1994
1. This action is the Consideration of Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval for
the proposed subdivision of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 1.3, 66.6 + /- acres
total, into two lots, 28.0 + /- and 38.6 + /- acres respectively, located on the west
side of Danby Road approximately 2,000 feet south of the entrance to Ithaca
College, Special Land Use District and Industrial Products District. Ithaca
College, Owner; Ithacare, Inc, Applicant; Mark Macera, Agent.
2. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on March 1, 1994, has reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Short Environmental Assessment Form Part I submitted by
the applicant, a Part II prepared by the Town planning staff, a subdivision plat
entitled "Final Plat Showing Lands to be Subdivided by Ithaca College Located
Between Danby Road and Stone Quarry Road, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New
York" prepared by Allen T. Fulkerson, L.S., and dated November 15, 1993, and
revised February 8, 1994, and other application materials, and
3. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as
Lead Agency in environmental review, has, on March 1, 1994, made a negative
determination of significance.
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements for
Final Subdivision Approval, as shown on the Final Subdivision Checklist, having
determined from the materials presented that such waiver will result in neither
a significant alteration of the purpose of subdivision control nor the policies
enunciated or implied by the Town Board.
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval
for the proposed subdivision of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 39 -1 -1.3 into two
lots, 28.0 + /- and 38.6 + /- acres respectively, as shown on the subdivision plat
entitled "Final Plat Showing Lands to be Subdivided by Ithaca College Located
between Danby Road and Stone Quarry Road, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New
York" prepared by Allen T. Fulkerson, L.S., and dated November 15, 1993, and
revised February 8, 19940
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Langhans, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Cornell, Smith.
(Kenerson had left the meeting)
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
Vice - Chairperson Smith declared the matter of Preliminary and Final Subdivision
for Ithacare, Inc., duly closed at 8:11 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED
SUBDIVISION OF THOSE PORTIONS OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCELS NO. 31 -4 -1, 31 -5 -1, AND 31-
6-1.2 SHOWN AS PARCEL "D" ON THE SUBDIVISION PLAT ENTITLED "PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
SHOWING PARCELS TO BE CONVEYED BY TOMLINSON* BOSTWICK ROAD, CULVER. ROAD, & SEVEN MILE
DRIVE, TOWN OF ITHACA, TOMPKINS COUNTY, NY" GRANTED PRELIMINARY AND FINAL SUBDIVISION
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APPROVAL ON AUGUST 3, 1993, 55.74 + /- ACRES TOTAL, INTO 21 LOTS, A DEDICATION OF 8.3 +/-
ACRES FOR PUBLIC PARK AND OPEN SPACE PURPOSES, AND A 60 FT. BY 430 FT. STRIP FOR FUTURE
PUBLIC ROAD PURPOSES, AND FURTHER, FINAL APPROVAL OF A LOT LINE MODIFICATION FOR THE
BOUNDARY BETWEEN PARCEL "C" AND PARCEL "D" AS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD ON AUGUST
3, 1993. SUBJECT PARCELS ARE LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF BOSTWICK ROAD IN THE VICINITY OF
CULVER ROAD AND SEVEN MILE DRIVE, RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -30. EPHRAIM TOMLINSON III, AND
DAVID CLARKIN TOMLINSON, OWNERS; EPHRAIM TOMLINSON III, APPLICANT.
Vice - Chairperson Smith declared the Public Hearing in the above -noted matter duly
opened at 8:15 p.m. and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and
published and as noted above.
Ephraim Tomlinson addressed the Board and gave a brief summary of the preliminary
plat for the proposed subdivision request. (Hereto attached as Exhibit #2) Mr.
Tomlinson stated that Lot #1 is 8.10 acres and would be for public use as a Town park.
Mr. Tomlinson stated that Lot #2 what intended to be used for a church. Mr. Tomlinson
stated that the other 19 lots are for residential use. Mr. Tomlinson stated that Lots
#1 to 11 are served by public sewer and sewer. Mr. Tomlinson stated that Lots #12 to
19 can not be served by public water but can be served by public sewer. Lot #20 and #21
are in areas with steep terrain changes and heavily wooded, so they would exceed 5
acres. Mr. Tomlinson stated that the purpose of the requested boundary line change
would be to allow Lot #20 to exceed 5 acres.
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz stated that Lot #20 is 4.996 acres, and the
lot line would need to be moved in order to meet the County Health Department
Regulations. Mr. Frantz stated that the lot line change would add .008 acres to make
the lot 5.004 acres in compliance with the regulations.
The Board discussed the location of the sewer lines in that area and whether or
not there were intentions by the Town to extend the sewer lines further up into the
Bostwick Road area.
Town
Engineer Daniel
Walker asked Mr. Tomlinson
if
he
owned
:Lot
#20
and the lot
east of Lot
#20, and if he
had the permission of his
son
to
change
the
lot
line.
Mr. Tomlinson stated that the lot East of Lot #20 belonged
had written permission from his son to change the lot line. Mr.
he was asking the Board for preliminary approval for 56 acres at
the plat. Mr. Tomlinson stated that he would come before the Bo
on the 27 acres (Lots 1 through 11) which are served by public
later date if he receives preliminary approval at this time. Mr.
the balance of the 56 acres which is not serviced by public water
engineering work before he could come before the Board for final
lotse
to his son and that he
Tomlinson stated that
this time as shown on
and for final approval
water and sewer at a
Tomlinson stated that
and sewer require more
approval on the other
The Board discussed the potential impact on the highway system due to the number
of fairly large developments that are proposed. Staff answered many of the Board
members' concerns, and gave statistics on the possible impacts of traffic if the
developments go through the system successfully. The discussion was in response to the
State of New York Department of Transportation's letter, addressed to George Frantz, and
dated February 10, 1994. (Hereto attached as Exhibit #3) The Board felt that the issue
had been adequately addressed by the Town's staff.
Vice - Chairperson Smith noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if anyone
wished to speak.
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Tammo Steenhuis of Bostwick Road, addressed the Board and stated that he had not
received proper notification of this plan.
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz stated that because his property was
subdivided and purchased in August of 1993, that he name had not yet appeared in the tax
rolls that the secretary uses to get the names and addresses of the neighbors to notify
of the meetings that may concern them.
David St. George addressed the Board and stated that he was concerned with the
traffic impacts in the area.
Mr. Steenhuis addressed the Board and asked if the park could be relocated.
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz stated that the reason for the location of
the park, as shown on the plat, was because that site is extremely undesirable for house
lots because it is located across from the city bus garage and the public works. Mr.
Frantz stated that this site was the flattest portion of the parcel, which could be
developed at some time in the future. Mr. Frantz stated that there was evidence of a
correorgonel Town site in the lot that had been set aside for the park. Mr. Frantz
stated that the professor in charge of the archeological dig had written a letter
regarding the possible findings and progress of the archeological. dig, addressed to
George Frantz, dated March 1, 1994. (Professor Baugher's letter is hereto attached as
Exhibit #4)
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that the design for the park gives the maximum
amount open space with the least amount of frontage on the bus garage.
James Teeter of Seven Mile Drive, addressed the Board and asked if the Town staff
had considered the traffic that would be generated by the park usage and the church
usage.
Mr. Frantz stated that the traffic that would possibly be generated by the park
and church were considered when he reviewed the site.
There being no further discussion, the Chair closed the Public Hearing and brought
the matter back to the Board for further discussion.
The Board discussed several other contiguous subdivisions that have been proposed
in the Town of Ithaca.
There being no further discussion, the Chair asked if anyone were prepared to
offer a motion.
MOTION by Candace Cornell, seconded by James Ainslie:
i. This action is the Preliminary Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision
of those portions of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcels No. 31 -4 -1, 31 -5 -1, and 31 -6 -1.2
shown as Parcel "D" on the subdivision plat entitled "Preliminary Subdivision
Showing Parcels to be Conveyed by Tomlinson: Bostwick Road, Culver Road, & Seven
Mile Drive, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, NY" granted Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval on August 3, 1993, 55.74 + /- acres total, into 21 lots,
dedication of 8.3 +/- acres for public park and open space purposes, and a 60 ft.
by 430 ft. strip for future public road purposes, and further.;, Final Approval of
Planning Board
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March 1, 1994
a Lot Line Modification for the boundary between Parcel "C`I and Parcel "D" as
approved by the Planning Board on August 3, 1993. Residence District R -30.
Ephraim Tomlinson III, and David Clarkin Tomlinson, Owners; Ephraim Tomlinson
III, Applicant.
24 This is a Type I Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is
legislatively determined to act as Lead Agency in environmental review with
respect to Subdivision Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on March 1, 1994, has reviewed and
accepted as
adequate
the Long Environmental Assessment Form
Part I prepared by the
applicant, a Part II prepared by the Town Planning staff, a preliminary
subdivision plat entitled "Preliminary Plat, Glendale Farm Subdivision, Bostwick
Road, Culver Road & Seven Mile Drive, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York,"
prepared by David A. Herrick, P.E. and Allen T. Fulkerson, L.S. and dated January
25, 1994, and other application materials, and
4. The Town planning staff has recommended a negative determination of environmental
significance with respect to the proposed action, as proposed;
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination of
environmental significance in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality
Review Act for the above reference action as proposed and, therefore, no Environmental
Impact Statement will be required.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Langhans, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Cornell, Smith.
(Kenerson had left the meeting)
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried.
MOTION by James Ainslie, seconded by Virginia Langhans:
C.l.
10 This action is the Preliminary Subdivision Approval for the proposed subdivision
of those portions of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcels No. 31 -4 -1, 31 -5 -1, and 31 -6 -1.2
shown as Parcel "D" on the subdivision plat entitled "Preliminary Subdivision
Showing Parcels to be Conveyed by Tomlinson: Bostwick Road, Culver Road, & Seven
Mile Drive, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, NY" granted Preliminary and Final
Subdivision Approval on August 3, 1993, 55.74 + /- acres total, into 21 lots,
dedication of 8.3 +/- acres for public park and open space purposes, and a 60 ft.
by 430 ft. strip for future public road purposes, and further., Final Approval of
a Lot Line Modification for the boundary between Parcel "C" and Parcel "D" as
approved by the Planning Board on August 3, 1993. Residence District R -30.
Ephraim Tomlinson III, and David Clarkin Tomlinson, Owners; Ephraim Tomlinson
III, Applicant,
2. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on March 1, 1994, has reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Long Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the
applicant, a Part II prepared by the Town Planning staff, a preliminary
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subdivision plat entitled "Preliminary Plat, Glendale Farm Subdivision, Bostwick
Road, Culver Road & Seven Mile Drive, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York,"
prepared by David A. Herrick, P.E. and Allen T. Fulkerson, L.S. and dated January
25, 1994, and other application materials, and
3. This is a Type I Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as
lead agency in environmental review with respect to Subdivision Approval, has, on
March 1, 1994, made a negative determination of environmental significance.
1. That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements for
Preliminary Subdivision Approval, as shown on the Preliminary Subdivision
Checklist, having determined from the materials presented that such waiver will
result in neither a significant alteration of the purpose of subdivision control
nor the policies enunciated or implied by the Town Board.
29 That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary Subdivision Approval for the
proposed subdivision of those portions of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcels No. 31 -4 -1,
31 -5 -1, and 31 -6 -1.2 shown as Parcel "D" on the subdivision plat entitled
"Preliminary Subdivision Showing Parcels to be Conveyed by Tomlinson: Bostwick
Road, Culver Road, & Seven Mile Drive, Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County, NY"
granted Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval on August 3, 1993, as shown as
Lots 1 - 21 (with a slight deviation of the east line of Lot 20 to enlarge Lot 20
to slightly in excess of 5 acres) on the plat entitled "Preliminary Plat, Glendale
Farm Subdivision, Bostwick Road, Culver Road & Seven Mile Drive, Town of Ithaca,
Tompkins County, New York," prepared by David A. Herrick, P.E. and Allen T.
Fulkerson, L.S. and dated January 25, 1994, with the following conditions:
a. Approval by the Town Board of the location of the proposed street
reservation and other facilities proposed for dedication to the Town,
including the location of the proposed 8.3 acre public park site,
b. Approval by the Tompkins
County Department of Health of
onsite
sewer
facilities for those lots
which will not be served by public
sewer,
and
c. No building permit shall be issued for construction on any of the lots until
the area denominated as a Park and reserved for the road are transferred in
fee simple absolute to the Town, and
d. Prior to issuance of any building permit on any lot, stormwater management
and erosion control plans, conforming to New York State guidelines for
reducing the impacts of stormwater runoff in new developments be approved
by the Town Engineer.
3. In making the above decision, the Planning Board acknowledges receipt of the
letter of the Tompkins County Department of Planning dated February 25, 1994, but
grants preliminary approval notwithstanding the concerns expressed in such letter,
finding that:
1. While there are several curb cuts, the large size of the lots minimizes the
amount of additional traffic to be generated, and based on visits by members
of the Board and a report of the Assistant Town Planner who showed on a map
the approximate sight distances, all of which exceed 350 feet;
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® 2. In this instance, contrary to the usual case, clustering the subdivision
would require construction of substantially more infrastructure (in
particular roads) than the present plan, and would also result in diminished
amenities obtained by large lots;
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3. Because the lots are large, and the typical construction would be one
building per lot, the open spaces would continue to be large, thus there is
little impact on the scenic quality of the area;
4. The Town has several traffic studies which, together with recognized traffic
generation manuals, suggest the additional traffic of the proposal,
particularly when compared to other potential uses, would not result in a
significant deleterious effect;
50 Drainage calculations by the Town Engineer indicate there does not appear
to be a problem with potential stormwater runoff;
6. Bill Dress Woods has not yet been declared a Unique Natural Area, and is,
in any event, some 500 feet northwest of the proposed subdivision,
7. Lot 20 has sufficient space for the location of a house;
8. Lot 2 may be subsequently subdivided, although its present intended use is
for a church, but any subdivision in the future would be subject to further
review by this Board at the time of any such proposed subdivision. The
existence of the school bus garage and highway facility in and of themselves
cannot preclude subdivision of other lands in the vicinity.
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That the Planning Board hereby grants Final Apl
Modification for the boundary between Parcel "C"
Planning Board on August 3, 1993, as shown on the
Glendale Farm Subdivision, Bostwick Road, Culver
Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York," prepared by
T. Fulkerson, L.S. and dated January 25, 1994.
)roval for the proposed Lot Line
and Parcel "D" as approved by the
plat entitled "Preliminary Plat,
Road & Seven Mile Drive, Town of
David A. Herrick, P.E. and Allen
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Kenerson, Langhans, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Cornell, Smith.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
Board Member Candace Cornell read portions of the Environmental Review Committee's
comments regarding the Glendale Farm subdivision. (Hereto attached as Exhibit #5)
Vice - Chairperson
Smith declared
the
matter of the Glendale Farm Subdivision for
Ephraim Tomlinson III
duly closed at
9:18
p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION
THROUGH 32 OF THE PROPOSED "SAP(
AND INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 4,800
AND OPEN SPACE DEDICATION, AND
ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO. 33- 3 -1.2,
OF PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR LOT NOS. 1
)NI MEADOWS" SUBDIVISION, PROPOSED TO BE 53 LOTS TOTAL,
FT. OF PROPOSED PUBLIC ROADS, AN 8.4 +/- ACRE PUBLIC PARK
PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER FACILITIES, LOCATED ON TOWN OF
80 +/- ACRES TOTAL, ON THE EAST SIDE OF SEVEN MILE DRIVE
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APPROXIMATELY 700 FT. SOUTH OF BOSTWICK ROAD, RESIDENCE DISTRICT R -30. EDDY HILL, INC.,
OWNER; WILLIAM F. ALBERN, P.E., AGENT.
Vice - Chairperson Smith declared the Public Hearing in the above -noted matter duly
opened at 9:20 p.m. and read aloud from the Notice of Public Hearings as posted and
published and as noted above.
William Albern addressed the Board and stated that the configuration of the
project is the same as shown to the Board in the sketch plan phase of the project, with
only minor changes. Mr. Albern stated that he and his clients had the potential of
subdividing up to 52 lots, but that they were looking for preliminary approval for Lots
#1 through #32 only. Mr. Albern stated that the erosion problem was addressed in the
engineering drawings for this project. Mr. Albern stated that the South Section and the
park are waiting for the outcome of the archeological study that is being conducted
there by Cornell University students and George Frantz. ( Saponi Meadows Map is hereto
attached as Exhibit #6)
Assistant Town Planner George Frantz reviewed the comments made by Professor
Sherene Baugher regarding the archeological study that was conducted on the Saponi
Meadows site.
Town Engineer Daniel Walker stated that there are significant improvement that
need to be made to the roads and water and sewer construction. Mr. Walker stated that
construction of this site would fall under the federal regulations for stormwater
management and sediment erosion control plan, which states that any construction site
that exceeds five acres must have a blanket permit from the EPA. The requirements for
the permit are that a sediment erosion control plan be prepared and be available on site
before the construction begins.
Tammo Steenhuis addressed the Board and stated that he was not against development
but that he was very upset and that South Hill would turn into one big mess. Mr.
Steenhuis stated that the octopus could only handle so much traffic.
The Board discussed the matter of the traffic and the proposed subdivisions around
the octopus area with Mr. Steenhuis,
Board Member Candace Cornell read portions from the Environmental Review Committee
regarding the Saponi Meadows subdivision. (Hereto attached as Exhibit #7) Board Member
Candace Cornell stated that she would suggest a vegetative buffer near the streams.
Mr. Albern stated that the development of the project would not have an impact on
the stream because they would be protected by the homes.
Planner I Louise Raimondo stated that a lawn would be preferable to agricultural
fields for a buffer area and that the mature trees should be preserved as an additional
buffer area.
There being no further discussion, the Chair asked if anyone were prepared to
offer a motion.
MOTION by Candace Cornell, seconded by James Ainslie:
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Planning Board 11 March 1, 1994
10 This action is the Preliminary Subdivision Approval for Lot Nos. 1 through 32 of
the proposed "Saponi Meadows" subdivision, proposed to be 53 lots total, and
include approximately 4,800 ft. of proposed public roads, an 8.4 +/- acre public
park and open space dedication, and public water and sewer facilities, located on
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 33- 3 -1.2, 80 +/- acres total, on the east side of
Seven Mile Drive approximately 700 ft. south of Bostwick Road, Residence District
R -30. Eddy Hill, Inc., Owner; William F. Albern, P.E., Agent.
2. This is a Type I Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board is
legislatively determined to act as Lead Agency in environmental review with
respect to Subdivision Approval, and
3. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on March 1, 1994, has reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Long Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the
applicant, a Part II prepared by the Town Planning staff, a subdivision plat
showing Lot Nos. 1 through 32 entitled "Plat - Middle and North Sections Saponi
Meadows, Saponi Meadows Subdivision, Seven Mile Drive, Ithaca, New York," prepared
by Robert S. Russler, Jr., L.S., and dated January 14, 1994, a plan of the entire
subdivision entitled "Saponi Meadows" prepared by William F. Albern, P.E. and
dated February 24, 1994, showing 52 proposed residential and 1 light industrial
lots, and a proposed 8.4 acre public park dedication, and other application
materials, and
4. The Town planning staff has recommended a negative determination of environmental
significance with respect to the proposed action, as proposed;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby makes a negative determination of
environmental significance in accordance with the New York State Environmental Quality
Review Act for the above referenced action as proposed and, therefore, no Environmental
Impact Statement will be required.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Kenerson, Langhans, Ainslie, Hoffmann, Cornell, Smith.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
MOTION by Eva Hoffmann, seconded by James Ainslie.
10 This action is the Preliminary Subdivision Approval for Lot Nos. 1 through 32 of
the proposed "Saponi Meadows" subdivision, proposed to be 53 lots total, and
include approximately 4,800 ft. of proposed public roads, an 8.4 +/- acre public
park and open space dedication, and public water and sewer facilities, located on
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 33- 3 -1.2, 80 +/- acres total, on the east side of
Seven Mile Drive approximately 700 ft. south of Bostwick Road, Residence District
R -30. Eddy Hill, Inc., Owner; William F. Albern, P.E., Agent.
2. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing held on March 1, 1994, has reviewed and
accepted as adequate the Long Environmental Assessment Form Part I prepared by the
applicant, a Part II prepared by the Town Planning staff, a subdivision plat
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March 1, 1994
showing Lots No. 1 through 32 entitled "Plat - Middle and North Sections Saponi
Meadows, Saponi Meadows Subdivision, Seven Mile Drive, Ithaca, New York," prepared
by Robert S. Russler, Jr., L.S., and dated January 14, 1994, a plan of the entire
subdivision entitled "Saponi Meadows" prepared by William F. Albern, P.E. and
dated February 24, 1994, showing 52 proposed residential and 1 light industrial
lots, and a proposed 8.4 acre public park dedication, and other application
materials, and
3. This is a Type I Action for which the Town of Ithaca Planning Board, acting as
lead agency in environmental review with respect to Subdivision Approval, has, on
March 1, 1994, made a negative determination of environmental significance.
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10 That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements for
Preliminary Subdivision Approval, as shown on the Preliminary Subdivision
Checklist, having determined from the materials presented that such waiver will
result in neither a significant alteration of the purpose of subdivision control
nor the policies enunciated or implied by the Town Board.
2. That the Planning Board hereby grants Preliminary Subdivision Approval for Lot
Nos. 1 through 32 of the proposed "Saponi Meadows" subdivision, as shown on the
subdivision plat showing Lots No. 1 through 32 entitled "Plat - Middle and North
Sections Saponi Meadows, Saponi Meadows Subdivision, Seven Mile Drive, Ithaca, New
York," prepared by Robert S. Russler, Jr., L.S., and dated January 14, 1994, with
the following conditions:
a. Approval by the Town Board of the location of all proposed streets and other
facilities proposed for dedication to the Town, including the initial
location of the proposed 8.4 acre public park site;
b. Submission for consideration and approval
modified plat for final approval showing the
by the Planning Board of a
location of the park as part
of the final approval of this
conveyance to the Town, the
information is developed that
phase with the
location may
would warrant
understanding that, prior to
be altered if archeological
such change;
c. Transfer to the Town of Ithaca of the proposed public park prior to the
issuance of building permits for construction on more than ten lots;
d. No building permits shall be issued for construction of any structures or
any lots fronting on proposed roads until the roads are conveyed to the Town
and, if not constructed, adequate financial security as determined by the
Town Engineer is provided to the Town to assure construction of same in a
timely fashion;
e. Modification
of
the width
of the proposed
pedestrian right of way between
lots 26 and
27
to increase
its size to 20
feet or more;
f. Before any building permit is issued for any construction on each lot there
shall be submitted a sedimentation and erosion control plan satisfactory to
the Town Engineer for such lot;
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March 1, 1994
g. Prior to final subdivision approval there shall be presented to this Board
a plan acceptable to this Board for buffering the water courses crossing the
subdivision.
3. In making the foregoing decision, the Board acknowledges receipt of the letter
dated February 25, 1994, from the Tompkins County Department of Planning, but
grants approval notwithstanding the concerns expressed in said letter, finding
that:
a. Based upon reports of the Assistant Town Planner, the sight distances are
more than adequate, with the minimum sight distance being 400 feet;
b. Relocating the road to avoid the possible occasional illumination of a house
on the opposite side of Seven Mile Drive would be nearly impossible as it
would require lots that would not meet minimum frontage, and could also
conflict with the 600 -foot separation requirement between road entries on
Seven Mile Drive;
c. Lots 4 and 27 are adequate in size to permit location of a house on the lot
in a manner so as to avoid the problem of lights shining into houses on
these lots;
d. Based on existing traffic studies and nationally recognized traffic
generation manuals, the impact of traffic on the Route 13 /Seven Mile Drive
intersection will not be significant;
e. Preliminary drainage calculation, by the project's engineer and by the Town
Engineer, indicate storm water runoff will be adequately controlled. Final
drainage calculations will be required before final approval to confirm the
conclusions derived from the preliminary calculations;
f. The EAF reference to insufficient utility capacity was an error. Based upon
a report of the Town Engineer there exists adequate utility capacity for
this project.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Kenerson, Langhans, Ainslie, Hoffmann, Cornell, Smith.
Nay - None.
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
The Board discussed the archeological study being conducted in the area of the two
subdivisions passed by the Planning Board at the beginning of the meeting. The Board
also discussed the Park and what could change if something was found during the
archeological study. The board decided that the Park should be shown on a map as its
own lot, the Light Industrial section of the property as a lot, the South section as one
lot, and then the 32 lots that approval is being sought for. To summarize what is
needed, is a final subdivision plat with 35 lots.
Vice- Chairperson Smith declared the matter of Preliminary Subdivision approval for
Saponi Meadows duly closed at 10:32 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM: STAFF REPORT ON CORNELL UNIVERSITY FINAL G /EIS.
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Planning Board 14 March 1, 1994
Planner I Louise Raimondo addressed the Board and stated that Cornell University
representatives, Town staff members, and various Planning Board Members met and revised
the latest draft of the Final Generic Environmental Impact Statement. Ms. Raimondo
asked that each of the Planning Board members review the statement and let her know if
there were any changes that they felt were necessary. Ms. Raimondo stated that there
would be an additional meeting with Cornell representatives on March 8, 1994. Ms.
Raimondo stated that she would bring the Final GEIS back to the Board at the next
meeting (March 15, 1994) for discussion.
OTHER BUSINESS
Planner I Louise Raimondo addressed the Board and stated that she had given each
of the Board Members a copy of the Final Impact Statement regarding the Peregrine Hollow
Subdivision located in the Town of Dryden from the Town of Dryden Planning Board.
Board Member Candace Cornell stated that the Town of Dryden Planning Board did not
address the Town of Ithaca Planning Boards' comments in the Final Impact Statement. Ms.
Cornell stated that she would suggest that the Planning Board prepare a statement to the
Town of Dryden Planning Board. Ms. Cornell read a statement that she had prepared as
a draft to send to the Town of Dryden Planning Board.
The Board unanimously decided to send a letter to the Town of Dryden Planning
Board in regards to the Peregrine Hollow Subdivision.
There being no further discussion, the Chair asked if anyone were prepared to
offer a motion.
MOTION by Eva Hoffmann, seconded by Candace Cornell:
WHEREAS:
1. The Town of Dryden Planning Board has prepared a Final Environmental Impact
Statement for Peregrine Hollow and requested comments from interested parties, and
2. The Town of Ithaca Planning Board has some concerns about the adequacy of the
Environmental Impact Statement, and
3. The Town
of Ithaca
Planning Board has
reviewed comments drafted by Candace
Cornell,
comments
member of
expressing
the Planning Board, and feels that they are appropriate
the Town's concerns about the Peregrine Hollow proposal;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the Town of Ithaca Planning Board authorizes the Chairman, Robert Kenerson,
to sign a letter incorporating the comments to Barbara Caldwell, Chairperson of the Town
of Dryden Planning Board, and, that this letter be mailed to the Town of Dryden prior
to the deadline of March 3, 1994 at 3:00 p.m. [Letter addressed to Barbara Caldwell,
Chair, Town of Dryden Planning Board, from the Town of Ithaca Planning Board Chair,
Robert Kenerson, dated March 2, 1994, attached hereto].
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a vote.
Aye - Kenerson, Langhans, Hoffmann, Ainslie, Cornell, Smith.
Nay - None.
Planning Board
ON
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously.
(The above -noted letter is hereto attached as Exhibit #8)
March 1, 1994
Vice - Chairman Smith declared the matter of the Peregrine Hollow Subdivision duly
adjourned.
Vice - Chairperson Smith asked if there were any further business to be discussed
at this meeting.
Town Engineer Daniel Walker stated that the Little's Subdivision resolutions had
been sent to the Town Board and is on the agenda for the park land issue. Mr. Walker
stated that Mr. Little had meeting with Supervisor John Whitcomb and Mr. Walker, and Mr.
Little stated that he had talked with the land trust about dedicating a conservation
easement to the land trust in the area around the wetlands that were identified in the
24 acre parcel. Mr. Walker stated that included in the easement was access to both
Ridgecrest Road and Troy Road. Mr. Walker stated that Mr. Little had offered to
contribute $200.00 per lot to a fund for the Park and Open Space Acquisition Fund, which
is reasonable.
Chairperson Kenerson stated that he had drafted a memorandum regarding Planning
Board project assignments and asked if the Board members felt that it was an idea worth
pursuing. (Memorandum from Chairperson Kenerson, dated March 2, 1994, is hereto
attached as Exhibit #9)
The Planning Board decided that they did not wish to have project assignments.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon MOTION, Chairperson Smith declared the March 1, 1994 meeting of the Town of
Ithaca Planning Board duly adjourned at 10:53 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
StarrRae Ha s, Recording Secretary
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
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993 DANBY ROAD
ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850 -5719
22 February 1994
Re: Ithacare's proposal at Rte. 96B scenic overlook
Dear Town Planning Board Member:
The enclosures relate to a matter that should be of immediate concern and
importance to all local town, county, and city officials, representatives, and business
people; to several state departments, as well as to South Hill residents and the
estimated 200,000 people who use the overlook annually.
I believe this matter deserves your immediate attention and early intervention. The
Ithaca Town Board has already passed a special land use law permitting Ithacare's
project. The next public hearing, on the matter of sub - dividing the parcel of land on
which Ithacare proposes to build, is scheduled only days away -- for March 1 st, before
the Ithaca Town Planning Board. If the sub - division is approved, only a soon -to- follow
site plan hearing is needed before Ithacare's huge structure could become reality.
The differences expressed in the enclosed letters depend on definitions and facts;
they definitely do not favor Ithacare's plans. Whether by intent or not, Ithacare's pro-
posal for a three -story building, 48 ft. high, spanning 600 ft., and adjacent to the over-
look would forever degrade what they, themselves, describe as "Tompkins County's
most breathtaking, panoramic vista ". Also, there is at least one very serious
question about Ithacare's documentation accuracy (my 2/19 letter, page 5).
If allowed to occur, the proposed development can only be considered as
seriously detrimental to the local environment and quality of life, and to our tourist -
oriented economy. It also is bound to have an additional negative effect on the
already- serious traffic hazards in the area.
Please give this matter your prompt attention. If you have any questions about the
enclosures, please do not hesitate to call me at any time: (607) 272 -7864.
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Sincerely,
Jo n A. Yntema
Exhibit #1
3/1/94 Minutes
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DANBY
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ITHACA,
NEW
YORK
14850
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19 Jaaarq 1994
Mr. Mark A. Macera, Executive Director
Ithacare
115 South Quarry Street
Ithaca, NY 14850
Dear Sir:
This will acknowledge receipt of your letter of 4 February 1994.
In view of your tone and your many unsupported statements, I sincerely doubt that
any response will alter your position or feelings. However, since you chose to
distribute your comments to so many people, a rather lengthy reply seems warranted.
First and foremost, you should be made aware that I (a senior citizen, by the way)
and everyone I have spoken with about the matter are totally in favor of an Ithacare
expansion, per se. The controversy has arisen from the unfortunate site selection, your
absolute intransigence about any alternative locations or any design modifications to
the structure, and an obvious ultra- defensive position concerning the public's alarm at
your choices and stance.
You may find the following responses and comments interesting:
(1) The Planning Board agendas, for both the 7 December and its subsequent
hearing, refer to "a 115,000 sq, ft, building"; that is about three acres. The EAF, page 3,
item B.1.b., states that the "Project acreage to be developed [is] ± 7.0 acres initially." I
used those figures in my letter to the Ithaca Journal because those were the figures
provided in the documentation. I did not invent these numbers.
(2) The wing -span -- of a bird, a plane, or a building -- is customarily measured
between the outstretched tips. The distance between the tips of the two main wings of
your proposed structure, on Preliminary Site Plan LS -2, scales out to about 600 feet ,
which is why I used that number. Your attempt to redefine "span" in terms of only one
wing is novel, but incorrect.
(3) Regardless of how you choose to alter definitions to suit your argument, the fact
• remains that the design on Schematic Section & Elevation Sheet LS -3 shows, and
even states, that there are three "floors" (lower, first, and second), clearly defining that
the structure is, indeed, a "three -story building", as I stated in my Journal letter.
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(4) Simple subtraction of the elevation numbers on Sheet I'_S -2 (i.e., 607 minus
559) clearly shows that the proposed building is, indeed, 48 feet high, as I stated (not
the 38 feet you suggested). This far exceeds the 30/34 feet elevations permitted
elsewhere in the town of Ithaca. I did not invent the numbers or make the drawing, but
merely used the figures Ithacare provided on the drawing.
(5) 1 am impressed with your high sensitivity, relative to the size and dimensions of
the proposed structure. It certainly seems that you are willing to re- invent definitions
and arithmetic to make it seem the building is going to be far smaller than it is
proposed to be. This suggests that you are indeed concerned about how the public
now perceives the visual impact of the proposed Ithacare building. However, you
have repeatedly given the impression that your concern will evaporatfl once (and if)
the various approvals are obtained. One can only wonder why this is so.
(6) 1 have no general objection to special land use district designations,
particularly when they don't permit obstruction of scenic views from public overlooks.
However, the details of this particular SLUD are truly unfortunate.
It is worth noting that your EAF indicates that 200,00 people annually would be
subjected to an obstructed scenic overlook view if the proposed project goes through.
Your (undated) Ithacare Building Bulletin shows a view from the overlook (N.B., from
the extreme north, or lower, end) and describes it as "Tompkins: County's most
breathtaking, panoramic vista ". It does not escape me that the picture, which also
appears on your 1994 calendar, rather cleverly does not show where your proposed
development to the west would be or how it would affect the view.
Of course it would be nice for the proposed 180 Ithacare residents to have a lovely
view (or is it only 90 on the inner part of the main wings who would have lake views ?),
but at the expense of degrading the view for 200,000 other people every year? That is
a most peculiar balancing of human "priorities ". The plans can hardly be said to show
even the slightest "sensitivity to neighbors" which Town Supervisor Whitcomb
recommends in his remarks which appeared in today's Journal..
(7) Your assertion that Ithacare's SLUD will "protect" the land, because it obviates
the industrial development there, is amusing. Ithacare is an "industry" (long -term care)
in every sense, except, perhaps that you don't intend to manufacture anything besides
an eyesore and traffic problems. It's unfortunate that no one was allowed to respond to
this "protection" theory espoused by Board member Karl Niklas, and which you are
now claiming as a "very important fact ".
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It would be far more appropriate if those 28.01 acres were used instead for private
family homes, in keeping with the neighborhood, rather than to see it used to poorly
site a huge building with a 600 foot wing -span.
Ideally, of course, Ithaca College would donate the 28.01 acre section (or even
better, the entire parcel) to a suitable government entity for preservation in its current
scenic state. Considering that the College paid only about $84,000 for the 66.6 acres
in 1976, and, being tax - exempt, has presumably paid no taxes on the property since
then, it would be a gift that would not "break their bank ". Perhaps the town or county
could even purchase the whole parcel, at the same price Ithacare would have paid, to
save this "most breathtaking, panoramic vista" for all time.
would like to acknowledge George Frantz's comment that the proposed siting of
the proposed Ithacare structure is fine, from a landscape architectural standpoint
(emphasis mine). But from the viewpoint of the neighboring community, the scenic
overlook, and the 200,000 people using the overlook, the location is a catastrophe.
(8) Your comments about the relative elevations of the proposed building and the
overlook are amazing, in that I think you must believe them. Perhaps you should visit
the overlook and see for yourself.
First of all, no one stands at the Kelly property line (elevation "601.00 ") at the south
end of the overlook to see the view. Invariably, people are at or very near the north
end. Why else do you suppose the overlook sign was moved from the north end? The
elevation at the north end is "594.00 ", and the high roof rigde (sic) elevation is
14601.0011, not to mention the peak at "607.00 ". What this means, quite simply, is that a
person at or near the invariably -used north end of the overlook would have to have an
eye level of seven (7) feet, or a height of perhaps 7 ".6 ", just to see over the roof!
For your edification, I am enclosing a map on which I have sited the proposed
building as accurately as I can, and have indicated the very broad sweep of obstructed
view of West Hill to an approximate elevation of 980 feet above sea level, which the
proposed building would cause. This hardly correlates with your insistence that there
would be an "unobstructed view of West Hill with the exception of the view at the base
of the valley " (emphasis mine) . Your claim is patently incorrect.
If I have not sited the building correctly (a good possibility on a map of this scale),
there is every chance that more of the west shore and the lake would also be
obstructed from view at the overlook.
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With reference to siting, it seems appropriate to mention that on both maps which
follow the L. Robert Kimball & Associates letters of October 1993, after Appendix 6 in
the EAF, the "SITE" is incorrectly shown to be about 500 feet north of its correct
location. I cannot help but wonder why this error occurred.
(9) Your reference to a siting analysis raises questions, but answers none. That the
proposed Ithacare site "mitigates developing larger portions of Rand to the north" is a
cute oxymoron.
What indication is there that putting the Ithacare building at the north end of the IC
parcel, near the NCR parking lot, would cause "direct obstruction of views" (which you
state is avoided by the south location) -- or are you referring to views from the
proposed building?
Today I stood at the north end of the lookout, and I have some interesting news: if
the proposed Ithacare building were put at the other end of the Ithaca College parcel,
near the NCR parking lot, it would not be an eyesore from the lookout. In fact, it would
be nearly invisible. What a delightful discovery!
Since Ithacare presented absolutely no data on the "birds, deer and other resident
and migratory animals" on the proposed site by the overlook, where did you get the
data to support your contention that a more northerly site is "more productive habitat "?
(10) In my letter which the Journal published, "...some extra earthmoving..." refers
to volume, and not to surface area, since wherever the proposed structure were to be
built, there would be the same disturbance of the same surface area, by bulldozing or
grading.
There is no contradiction between my concern for the view from the lookout and the
environment. Your conclusion to the contrary has no merit. I did not express a concern
about the "size of the budget although you should get some kind of points for trying to
attribute to me words that weren't mine. I suggest you read my letter more carefully.
(11) That the DEC said "their information indicated ... no endangered or protected
animals on, or anywhere near the site" (emphasis mine) is no proof that a survey was
not warranted. A certain truism in the field of science can be utilized in other fields as
well: no studies or surveys can be considered unnecessary or unwarranted until after
they have been done. Even then, if nothing was found, the investigator has learned
something he did not know before. Assuming something on the basis of "indications" is
a form of prejudice, which is forming an opinion without determining the facts.
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• Saying that basically there aren't any indications of something doesn't rule out the
possibility that there could be something: it's a way of avoiding the work of on -site,
multi- season investigations. In light of your proposed S8 million budget, that avoidance
is unconscionable.
would refer you to the EAF, page 3, item A.1 1., which responds negatively to a
question about threatened or endangered plant and animal life, and to the Kimball
Meeting Notes #6, included in the EAF. The Notes give rather alarming evidence that
your EAF response and your letter both seriously misquote the DEC representative. I
quote from those Notes, where the underlining is not mine, but the italics are:
"Ms. March stated that the site is outside the
Managed Area. However, some species
to zones of interest, (see attached [note: no
EAF I inspected]). She did not know the full
state that if Endangered Species were
no development would be allowed in
Endangered Species
ma occur on the site due
attachments were seen in the
ramifications of this, but did
found on the site, perhaps
that specific location."
Your apparently intentional misrepresentation of the DEC position, which is
something I consider an extremely serious error on Ithacare's part, should be enough,
in and of itself, to at least postpone the proposed project until an appropriate series of
year -long seasonal inventories have been made on the site.
What is clear to me is that you have not corrected any misunderstandings or
misleading information which you attributed to me. I had none and had made none,
respectively, but it appears that you have supported a number of both.
In no way can it be truthfully said that your proposed development is "protecting
wildlife habitats and maintaining scenic views ". Such a claim is so preposterous that I
can hardly believe you made it.
If any characterizations are to be made, they would seem to apply to the proposed
development, such as:
(A) There has been a total lack of concern for, and interest in, public opinion or
wildlife, with a displayed unwillingness to consider any criticism as possibly being
accurate or constructive.
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(B) On Ithacare's part, there has been a notable lack of interest in any alternatives,
either in design or location. I don't recall any Ithacare offers -- or even a suggestion of
willingness -- to even consider possible changes or alternatives. Every Ithacare
response has been defensive, rigidly insisting that there is a need to do exactly what
Ithacare has proposed, and that it must be done immediately, no matter what concerns
have been raised.
Must the building be 48 ft, high, have a 600 ft. wing -span, and be sited
immediately adjacent to the county's "most breathtaking" view'? Are the needs of long-
term care really that rigid? Perhaps you should check the Kendal -at- Ithaca site and
architectural plans, to see what can be done with a little thought and consideration.
While Kendal's project is larger in both size and budget, the design is sensitive and
tasteful, words that can't be used to describe the Ithacare proposal.
I don't believe I " [inaccurately] described [your] development", nor was the
"information [1] shared with the public ... misleading ". It is at least peculiar that you
would expect me to have the responsibility to "reflect the breadth and depth of [your]
efforts to carefully balance.,. in fact, I think you have made almost no such
efforts; only the plant survey would qualify for that terminology. (Incidentally, Dr.
Wesley did an apparently masterful and thorough job on that survey.)
I want to point out that your intent has always seemed to be to tell people what
Ithacare is going to do, which despite your invitation of questions and comments,
never seems to deviate the proverbial "one iota" from your original plan. That is not
what I consider a "carefully balanced" approach; it is extremely narrow and one - sided.
In closing, I repeat that everyone favors an Ithacare expansion, but the proposed
site and structure are about as inappropriate as they could be. I hope you will modify
both, and come up with a proposal everyone can support. Surely there is some other
more appropriate site in Tompkins County. How about a location near the proposed
Hospicare facility on King Road? That's still quite close to Ithaca College.
Sincerely,
John A. Ynh (na
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Mr. John Yntema
993 Danby Road
Ithaca, New York 14850
Dear Mr. Yntema.
ITHACARE
... a home ... a community ... a way of life
I read your letter published in the January 17,
column, "Our Readers Write." Quite frankly, I TA
and sadden by your characterizations of Ithacare'
Hill senior living community. Unfortunately,
shared with the public was misleading. It
described our development nor did it reflect the
February 4, 1994
1994 Ithaca Journal
ras disappointed with
s proposed new South
the information you
neither accurately
depth and breadth of
our efforts to carefully balance the needs of providing desperately
needed care and housing for the elderly while protecting wildlife
habitats and maintaining scenic views.
I would like to address each of your points specifically.
You stated: "The building itself would cover almost three
acres - with the extensive roadways and parking areas
adding another four acres to the facility."
Response: The total area covered including buildings, roads and
all other paved surfaces is limited to approximately
2.75 acres.
You stated: "It has two wings spanning about 600 feet."
Response: Ithacare's residence includes four wings, the shortest
of which is approximately 140 feet and the longest,
approximately 200 feet. These wings are in many ways
distinct residences that are separate from the
congregate community. However, they are physically
attached to common areas to offer elderly residents
protection from extreme weather conditions that could
be threatening to their health and safety.
115 South Quarry St. • Ithaca, New York 14850 . 607 -273 -4080
Mr. John Yntema -2- February 4, 1994
You stated: "Because the three story building height of 48 feet and
other features of the project e:xceed the allowable
legal restrictions, special legislation has been
proposed to make many exceptions for this facility."
Response. All building portions are two stories. Building
heights will range from 25 to 32 feet in height. The
only exception is a narrow peak over the building
entrance that reaches a height of 313 feet. The
"special legislation," known as special land use
district #7 (SLUD) stems from the fact that existing
zoning descriptions do not include residential care
facilities. Consequently, the SLUD was proposed to
recognize such an entity. This type of "special
legislation" would be required regardless of the
location of Ithacare's community.
Please, let's also not forget that this site was zoned
heavy industry until Ithacare received approval of its
application for a special land use district. In
effect, Ithacare has protected the land and the
neighbors from industrial development. Certainly, you
can appreciate this very important fact.
You stated: "...would
include permitting obstruction of the
view
from
the
overlook. Even without the obstruction,
the
facility
would be a three story eyesore underlying
and
detracting
from the entire view of the lake, the
city
and
West
Hill blocking out the view of woods which
make
up
the rest
of the scenery now visible from
the
overlook."
Response: The elevations proposed for the new senior community
place the complex at, or below, the highest level of
the overlook. The only exception is the modest peak
over the entrance, standing six feet above the highest
overlook elevation. Consequently, people standing at
the overlook will look over the senior residence and
continue to enjoy an unobstructed view of West Hill
with the exception of the view at the base of the
valley. There will be no obstruction of city and lake
views. Some views of the woods behind the building
will be obstructed. However, views of the woods to the
south and north of the complex will not be blocked by
the complex's profile.
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Mr. John Yntema
You stated.
"... one can
that portion
furthest from
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only wonder why the site is proposed for
of IC's 66 acres in the area which is
the college ..."
Response: Our site analysis determined that placing the complex
in its currently proposed location maintains the
continuity of the balance of the college's 66.6 acre
parcel of land. It also avoids direct obstruction of
views of the city and the lake. What's more, it
mitigates developing larger portions of land to the
north, which incidentally, is a more productive habitat
for birds, deer and other resident and migratory
animals than is the current location. Your suggestion
that a location further to the north could have been
chosen resulting in a more auspicious location with
only modest cost increases due to "... some extra earth
moving ..." contradicts your statements expressing
concern for the views, environment and size of the
budget.
You stated: "... although Ithacare had a survey done on the plants
they have not indicated any concern or interest in
checking on the resident or migratory animals that
utilize the proposed site."
Response: Your statement is not supported by Ithacare's actions.
We carefully examined the possible environmental impact
associated with developing a project on this site.
Ithacare contacted the New York State Department of
Environmental Conversation for help reviewing the
project: They indicated that due to "zones of
influence" associated with the Buttermilk Falls
wildlife preserve, a survey of flora on the site may be
warranted. Ithacare took the initiative and proceeded
to conduct such a study with the assistance of an
independent botanist. Our investigation determined
that there were no protected plant species on this
property. With respect to animals, the New York State
Department of Environmental Conservation responded to
our inquiry by stating their information indicated
there were no endangered or protected animals on, or
anywhere near, the site. Consequently, no detailed
survey or inventory of animals was warranted.
Certainly you can appreciate our interest in avoiding
the expense of conducting unnecessary and unproductive
studies, particularly in light of the fact that these
resources can more appropriately be used to provide
housing and care for the elderly.
Mr. John Yntema -4- February 4, 1994
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Thank you for the opportunity to address the points contained in your
letter to the Ithaca Journal and correct any misunderstandings
that may exist regarding our project.
We will continue to keep you and other residents of South Hill
apprised of our progress. We invite your questions and comments. I
encourage you to accept our invitations to meet )periodically with us
to discuss our project. I will contact you personally in the next
few days and inquire about your interest in meeting with me to
discuss this matter further.
S
Mark A. Macera
Executive Director
cc: Ithacare Board of Directors
South Hill Residents
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Pkegarding Ithacare • 1 loca ' plans t*
Your Dec. 18 article about the 160 -unit
facility Ithacare plans to build on Danby
Road 96B, was a bit misleading. The site is
not "across from the college." since there is an
almost continuous row of private: residences
on the east side of 96B opposite the site. Thc
only part of the campus to the cast of' those
residences consists of soccer fields.
Describing the proposed building size and
location more fully would have helped explain
the impact this project would have. The build-
ing itself would cover almost three acres —with
the extensive roadways and parking areas
adding another four acres to the facility. It has
two wings, spanning about 6(X) feet.
The location selected is adjacent to rest -
ential properties; as well as to the Cayuga
ke scenic overlook. Because the three -story
wilding height of 413 feet and other features of
the project exceed the allowable legal restric-
tions, special legislation has been proposed to
make many exceptions for this facility.
These exceptions would include permitting
obstruction of the view from the overlook.
Even without the obstruction, the facility
would still be a three -story eyesore, underlying
and detracting from the entire view of the
lake, the city, and West Hill, blocking out all
view of the woods which make up the rest of
the scenery now visible from the overlook.
. Considering that Ithacare's plans include
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purchasing the land from Ithaca College. one
can only wonder why the site is proposed for
that portion of IC's 66 acres in the area which
is furthest from the college and closest to the
overlook and neighboring residences.
With the S8.5 million budget, it would
seem that a location further to the north could
have been chosen. Even if sonic extra earth -
moving might he rcyuired in tt site Llosct' to
NCR, surely its cost Wendel he minor in com-
parison to the huge hudget. Ane) the huge
building would he it lesser eyesore, or maybe
none at all, much as the large Emerson -Morse
building at the north end of Danby Road is
not even visible from 96B.
Another notable oddity of this application
for so many exceptions is that. although
Ithacarc has had a survey clone on the plants,
they have not indicated any concern or inter-
est in checking on the resident or migratory
animals that utilize the proposed site.
John A. Yntema
Town of Ithaca
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REGIONAL DIRECTOR
February 10, 1994
STATE OF NEW YORK
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
333 EAST WASHINGTON STREET
SYRACUSE, N.Y. 13202
Mr. George R. Frantz
Assistant Town Planner
Town of Ithaca
126 East Seneca Street
Ithaca, New York 14850
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JOHN C. EGAN
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Dear Mr. Frantz. j
RE: SEQR - LEAD AGENCY DESIGNATION
GLENDALE FARM SUBDIVISION &
SAPONI MEADOWS SUBDIVISION
We have received the material on each of the above projects. It
appears neither project will require a permit from the Region.
In both cases we are therefore an "interested agency" for SEQR
purposes and not a party to the lead agency determination
process.
While the projects, either alone or together, do not appear to
affect the State highway system, the impact on both the town
road, Seven Mile Drive, and the county road, Bostwick Road, may
require closer examination.
We appreciate the opportunity
these projects. If you have
my staff, at (315)428 -4409.
Very truly yours,
to
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in the
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contact
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CORNELL
U N I V E R S I T Y
Department of City and Regional Planning
•106 West Siblev Hall
Ithaca, NY 11853
Nlarch 1, 1994
George Frantz.
Planning Department, Town of Ithaca
126 East Seneca Street
Ithaca, New York 14850
Dear Mr. Frantz:
Telephone: (607) 255 -1332
Fax: (607) 255-6681
We are working on the analysis of the material from the Inlet Valley archaeological
excavation. The New York State required Phase I report for the Inlet Valley Project will be
completed by the end of April 1994. However, for the April 5, 1994 Planning Board
meeting I will be able to provide a map showing the exact locations where additional
archaeological testing will be needed. As we discussed on the phone today I will outline
our preliminary findings.
1) Field Number 3 on the Saponi Meadows property. Most of this field has little or no
archaeological potential. The artifacts from this field are primarily very small fragments of
Middle flint that are probably flakes from stone tools. There are a few spots where we would like
Section to put in about 10 additional shovel tests to determine if these artifacts are just "stray finds"
rather than evidence of a. village site. I do not think we will find evidence of a village on
this field, but the SHPO archaeologists will probably require this additional testing just to
be sure.
21 Field Number 1 on the Saponi Meadows property. Most of this field has little or no
archaeological potential. The artifacts from this field are primarily very small. fragments of
Sow
Section flint that are probably flakes from stone tools. However, a hearth was found near the road
and will require further excavation. In addition,there are a few spots where we would like
to put in additional shovel tests to determine if these flint flakes are just "stray finds" rather
than evidence of a village site.
3. Field Number 2 on the Saponi Meadows property. Most of this field has moderate to
South excellent archaeological potential. Four roasting pits (that may be 2,000 years old) were
n found near the road and will require further excavation. A potential house foundation was
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located near the stream and an additional potential house foundation was located in a corn
field. The artifacts from this field are primarily very small fragments of flint that are
probably flakes from stone tools plus burnt animal bones. This field requires extensive
testing to determine the boundaries of this potential village site. The archaeological field
work can be completed during the five week Cornell archaeological field school scheduled
for May 23 -June 24, 1994.
4) Tomlinson Property. The corn field has little or no archaeological potential. The minute
amount of artifacts from this field are primarily very tiny fragments of flint that could be
human -made or naturally occurring material. However, we will need to undertake testing
in the alfalfa field and on the low hill in order to determine the archaeological potential of
these other two sites.
I do think that the additional archaeological work in Fields 1 and 3 on the Saponi Meadows
property can be undertaken without any burdens to the planned construction schedule. If
you have any further questions please feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
Sherene Baugher,
Assistant Professor
Cornell University
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To. Mr. Robert Kenerson and Town of Ithaca Planning Board
From: Janet E. Hawkes, Acting Chairperson Environmental Review
Committee, Town of Ithaca Conservation Board
Re: Glendale Farm /Tomlinson Subdivision, Project No. 9401126
The Environmental Review Committee (ERC) evaluated the possible
environmental impacts of subdividing the Glendale Farm/Tomlinson parcel
"D", Tax Parcel No. 31 -4 -1, 31 -5 -1, and 31- 6 -1.2, into 21 lots and
park/open space. The committee supported Preliminary Subdivision but
recommends contingencies for approval.
The ERC recommends that final approval of the subdivision be conditional
upon written confirmation of an archaeologist that development would
have no archaeological impact.
® For the identified streams on the property the ERC recommends that the
applicant use best management practices during construction. It is further
recommended that the applicant preserve a buffer area of the existing
native vegetation around any streams on the property to protect water
quality and to act as a visual separation between land uses.
The ERC was concerned about the steep slopes on the property and
recommends that best management practices be followed to prevent
erosion.
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To. Mr, Robert Kenerson and Town of Ithaca Planning Board
From. Janet E. Hawkes, Acting Chairperson Environmental Review
Committee, Town of Ithaca Conservation Board
Re: Saponi Meadows Subdivision, Project No. 9312122
The Environmental Review Committee
environmental impacts of subdividing
No. 33- 3 -1.2, into 54 pieces including
an area zoned Light Industrial.
(ERC) evaluated the possible
the Saponi Meadow site, Tax Parcel
52 building lots, one Town park and
Our comments, outlined below, focused on the archaeological significance
of the site, preserving water quality, and preserving wetlands on the
property. The committee supported Preliminary Subdivision but
recommends contingencies for approval.
The ERC recommends that final approval
upon completion of further study of the
contain artifacts and a full report of an
F. Albern, dated 11/4/93).
of the subdivision be conditional
areas identified to potentially
archaeologist (see letter from W.
For the four identified streams on the property the ERC recommends that
the applicant use best management practices during construction. It is
further recommended that the applicant preserve a buffer area of the
existing native vegetation around the four streams to protect water
quality and to act as a visual separation between land uses. To the extent
possible, the ERC would urge the applicant to preserve the wetland
associated with the stream going through lots #37 and #38 as identified
on the Site Plan dated November 30, 19930
The ERC strongly encourages the preservation of the 1.3 acres wetland in
the Southeastern corner of the property. Although there was no specific
development plan for this section of the property indicated on the January
77 1994 Site Plan, the applicants proposed reducing the wetland by one
acre, with the resulting wetland being .3 acre. The ERC recommends
preservation of this wetland for several sound reasons: 1) this particular
wetland is essential to the drainage of the area; 2) No culvert or other
drainage exists under Route 13 to drain the area if the wetland was
reduced; 3) the wetland is a classic example of a glacial kettle and is a
unique feature and should be preserved intact; 4) this feature has
educational value and because of its close proximity to the road, has been
used by Cornell and other classes to demonstrate an ice age feature.
cc: D. Walker, Town Engineer
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TOWN OF ITHACA
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TOWN CLERK 273 -1721 HIGHWAY 273 -1656 PARKS 273 -3035 ENGINEERING 273 -1747 PLANNING 273 -1747 ZONING 273 -1747
March 2, 1994
Barbara Caldwell, Chair
Town of Dryden Planning Board
65 East Main Street
Dryden, New York 13053
Dear Ms. Caldwell:
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board
appreciates this
second
opportunity
to comment on the proposed
Peregrine Hollow
Cluster
Development
the supplemented
(Town of Dryden Tax Parcel No
Final Environmental
69- 2 -3.2). We reviewed
Impact Statement
dated
February 18,
completeness.
address the
1994 and found it difficult to ascertain
Specifically, the FEIS does not satisfactorily
Town's concerns outlined in Carolyn Grigorov's
its
letter
of December
10, 1993.
The Town of Ithaca requested review and approval authority for
all site drainage considerations on watershed areas flowing into
the Town of Ithaca. There has been no response to this petition.
The EIS establishes all impact analyses on 225 proposed units.
In reality, there could be as many as 327 possible units if all 98
single family houses (As shown on Page 27 of the Environmental
Impact Statement dated June 1993) build their allowed accessory
apartments. This is a 45% increase in density not considered in
calculating potential impacts on community services such as
schools, traffic, water and sewer demands, recreation facilities,
public transportation, garbage service, mail delivery, and
emergency services. Many of these impacts, especially the
increased use of the Town's roads and neighborhood park, will
directly affect the Town of Ithaca residents and taxpayers.
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board urges greater intermunicipal
cooperation with the hope that our concerns will be satisfactorily
addressed before the granting of final approval for the Peregrine
Hollow Development.
Sincerely,
• Robert L. Kenerson, Chair
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Planning Board Members
FROM: Robert L. Kenerson, Chair
DATE: March 15, 1994
RE: Planning Board Member Project Assignments
As we discussed at a Planning Board meeting several weeks ago, it would be helpful
members of the Planning Board to become more involved in projects earlier in the review
process. For many projects, we do not get to pass judgement until after all the groundwork
has been completed by staff for our approval. The sketch plan phase helps to give applicants
informal feedback from the Board, but often much time elapses between the sketch plan and
preliminary phases, during which staff and applicant discuss the project independently of the
Board. Getting Board members more involved in the sketch plan and preliminary phases of
the process would make us a more pro - active Board. This need not involve significant
additional time on the part of the Board. For the FGEIS, Candace and Steve met with
Planning Staff for about 2 hours once per week for a period of three weeks. Most projects
will require significantly less time over a longer time period.
I propose that Board Member project assignments be made using a team approach,
using our official Town of Ithaca Roster (attached). Since Steve and Candace were involved
in the FGEIS, the next two Board Members on the list are Herb and Virginia. The next
project on our agenda is Sanctuary Woods, and I propose that these two Board Members take
on this project. Staff can send you the appropriate information as it becomes available, and
consult with you on appropriate times to meet to discuss the project as fits everyone's
schedules. The next two Board Members on the list are Eva and Jim. One of the next items
of note on our agenda is the Ithacare site plan. I propose that they take on this project.
For future project assignments, we can begin with myself, at the top of the roster.
We can evaluate this system in a few month's time to see how it is working. I would
appreciate feedback from Board Members and staff on this system.
PC: Planning and Engineering Staff
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