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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
September 14, 1993
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday, September 14, 1993, in Town Hall, 126 East Seneca Street,
Ithaca, New York, at 7 :30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairperson Carolyn Grigorov, Virginia Langhans, James
Ainslie, Stephen Smith, Candace Cornell, Floyd Forman
(Town Planner), John Barney (Town Attorney).
ALSO PRESENT: David Auble, Nancy Goody, John Gutenberger,
Attorney Shirley Egan, Cathy Valentino,
Chairperson Grigorov declared the meeting duly opened at 7:39
p.m. and read the Fire Exit Regulations to those assembled, as
required by the New York State Department of State, Office of Fire
Prevention and Control.
AGENDA ITEM PERSONS TO BE HEARD.
There was no one present to be heard. Chairperson Grigorov
closed this segment of the meeting at 7:40 p.m.
AGENDA ITEM: DISCUSSION OF DGEIS TO ENSURE THAT ALL CHANGES
REQUIRED BY THE PLANNING BOARD TO BE MADE TO THE DOCUMENT PRIOR TO
A DETERMINATION CONCERNING WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENT AS
SATISFACTORY WITH RESPECT TO ITS SCOPE, CONTENT AND ADEQUACY FOR
THE PURPOSE OF COMMENCING PUBLIC REVIEW HAVE BEEN MADE.
Chairperson Grigorov declared the discussion in the above -
noted matter duly opened at 7:41 p.m.
Chairperson Grigorov asked the Town Planner what the
consultant had to say about the document.
Town Planner Floyd Forman addressed the Board and stated that
Ken Gordon (Project Consultant) had only positive things to say.
Mr. Gordon felt that the document was vastly improved and that
Cornell's staff did a good job. Mr. Gordon made a lot of positive
comments about the GEIS and the changes that have been made. Mr.
Forman suggested to the Board that the DGEIS is now ready for
public hearings. Mr. Forman stated that there was one question in
Appendix B, which reads "locations within the study area have been
outlined with a black border ", but there is no black border.
Virginia Langhans stated that most of the information
pertaining to Precinct 7 should have had a black border around it,
but it had been left off.
There appearing to be no further discussion or comments from
the Board, Chairperson Grigorov asked if anyone were prepared to
offer a motion.
Town of
Ithaca Planning
19, 1992,
Board
September 14, 1993
MOTION
by Candace
Cornell,
seconded by
Virginia Langhans:
WHEREAS, Cornell University ( "Cornell ") has requested the Town
of Ithaca to consider rezoning certain lands of Cornell in the
"Precinct 7" area off of Route 366 from Residence District R -30 to
a Special Land Use District or similar district; and
WHEREAS, the Town of Ithaca Planning Board has been designated
lead agency under the State Environmental Quality Review Act and
related local provisions and regulations; and
WHEREAS, Cornell offered to submit a Generic Environmental
Impact Statement ( "GEIS ") in view of all of the activity previously
undertaken, tentatively planned, and considered in the future in
and around the area proposed for rezoning, and the Planning Board,
with the consent and active encouragement of Cornell has found that
the all of such activity warrants the preparation and submission of
a GEIS; and
WHEREAS,
on May
19, 1992,
Cornell
submitted a Draft Generic
Environmental
Impact
Statement
( "DGEIS);
and
WHEREAS, there has been intense review by
Planning Consultant of the DGEIS pursuant to 6
the Town's staff
NYCRR Part 617
and
(the
"SEAR Regulations "), and particularly Sections
617.15 of the SEQR Regulations to determine its
adequacy for the purpose of commencing public
617.8, 617.14
scope, content,
review; and
and
and
WHEREAS,
and again on
this Board by resolution adopted on August 18, 1992,
March 30 1993 determined that the DGEIS was not
yet
adequate for submission to the public for review and enumerated the
reasons for this determination; and
WHEREAS, Cornell revised the DGEIS and resubmitted same to
this Board on May 18, 1993, and
WHEREAS, there was further review by the Town's staff and
planning consultant resulting in recommendations regarding the
adequacy of the DGEIS for submission contained in a memorandum of
the Town Planner to this Board; and
WHEREAS,
the Planning
Board
found
the
DGEIS
adequate for
public review
by resolution
adopted
June
1, 1993;
and
WHEREAS, subsequent to such finding the Planning Board and
Cornell, by mutual consent, agreed to supplement and amend the
DGEIS by including at draft of proposed legislation for a special
land use district, and
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WHEREAS,
the revised and
supplemented
DGEIS has been
resubmitted
to the Planning Boards
including filing a
THEREFORE,
IT IS RESOLVED,
that at this
time the Planning
Board finds
that the DGEIS as
so supplemented and amended is
satisfactory
with respect to its
scope, content,
and adequacy for
the purpose
of
commencing public
review; and
it
is
further
RESOLVED, that a Public Hearing on the DGEIS be held October
19, 1993, at Town Hall at 7:30 P.M.; and it is further
RESOLVED,
that the Town Planner and other
Town Staff are
requested and
directed to
take those steps,
including filing a
Notice of Completion of
Draft EIS with
the
New York State
Department of
Environmental
Conservation, as
may
be necessary or
appropriate to
commence the
public
review of
the
DGEIS.
There being no further discussion, the Chair called for a
vote.
Aye - Grigorov, Langhans, Ainslie, Smith, Cornell.
Nay - None.
The
MOTION was
declared
to
be carried unanimously at the September
14,
1993 Town
of Ithaca
Planning
Board meeting.
Board member Candace Cornell stated that the DGEIS was an
excellent document.
Chairperson
Grigorov
stated
the
Public
Hearing would be held
on October
19, 1993
at the
Town
Hall,
126
East Seneca Street.
Board member Candace Cornell asked where the document would be
available for public review.
Nancy Goody responded that there would be two copies available
at the Town Hall, Tompkins County Library, Mann and Olin Libraries.
All of the official agencies that have to be notified will be,
along with a Transmittal Notice.
John Barney asked that Nancy Goody provide an Affidavit
showing to whom the Notice of Completion of Draft EIS was sent to.
Nancy Goody responded that she would do that.
Chairperson Grigorov asked if anyone had any further comment
regarding the DGEIS, no one spoke. Chairperson Grigorov duly
closed the discussion of the DGEIS.
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Ithaca Planning Board
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1993
AGENDA
HEARING
ITEM: DISCUSSION OF COMMENTS MADE AT
AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF DRAFT
AUGUST 31,
COMPREHENSIVE
PUBLIC
PLAN.
Chairperson Grigorov declared the public meeting in the above -
noted matter duly opened and read aloud from the agenda as noted
above. Chairperson Grigorov stated that there was some additional
information since the meeting on August 31, 1993 and it was not
included in the mailout that the Board Members received.
Town Planner Floyd Forman asked Chairperson Grigorov if he
could move on to Other Business and then return to the
Comprehensive Plan comments.
Chairperson
Grigorov
replied
that it would be alright to
proceed to Other
Business
at this
time.
AGENDA ITEM: OTHER BUSINESS - ZONING MAP
Town Planner Floyd Forman addressed the Board and stated that
the Zoning Map had only a couple of changes made to it. The
Hospicare parcel was previously zoned for Multiple Residence and is
now R -30 and R -15. The Sapsucker Woods Road area that was shown as
S -2, are the apartments owned by Rocco Lucente. The area is not a
Special Land Use District, it is actually an R -15 District, with up
to four units allowed in each building.
NOTE: The Zoning Map was not for discussion at this meeting
because a Public Hearing is scheduled for the Planning Board on
September 21, 1993 to recommend to the Town Board that the map be
approved. The map was distributed so that Board Members would have
ample time to review the map for possible errors.
Town Planner Floyd Forman concluded by stating that those were
the only changes made to the map. Mr. Forman asked the Board
Members to review the map, then bring it back to the next meeting.
There being no further discussion regarding the Zoning Map,
the Chair closed this part of the meeting and gave the Board
Members 10 minutes to review the comments regarding the
Comprehensive Plan.
AGENDA ITEM: DISCUSSION OF COMMENTS MADE AT AUGUST 31, PUBLIC
HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
(CONTINUED FROM EARLIER)
Chairperson Grigorov asked if there were any comments
regarding the information reviewed.
Board Member Virginia Langhans asked if the Board had heard
from the League of Women Voters before.
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Town Planner Floyd Forman responded that they had heard from
Mary Russell (a member of the League of Women Voters) regarding the
Comprehensive Plan before, but not specifically from the League.
Dooley Kiefer is also a member of the League and the Board had also
heard comments from her.
Board Member Stephen Smith addressed the Board and stated that
under Rural Residential Use, Page 4 -11, the Comprehensive Plan
reads "a minimum of one housing unit per acre ". Mr. Smith
wondered if that was correct. It should read "a maximum of one
housing unit per acre ".
Board Member Candace Cornell asked about the deadline for
submitting typos to the Planning Department.
Town Planner Floyd Forman responded that any corrections or
typos would need to be in within the next few days.
Dave Auble addressed
some additional time to
zoning has been changed f
which really effects his
stated that he has water
Rural Residential on. the
the Board and stated that he would like
submit comments, because his property's
rom Multiple Family to Rural Residential
understanding of the Plan. Mr. Auble
and sewer and that his land is shown as
colored map.
Ms. Cornell reminded Mr. Auble that this is not a Zoning Map,
that it is an Antici=pated Land Use Patterns Map. Mr. Auble stated
that it was an anticipated preface to the rezoning process, which
is the way he reads and understands the Comprehensive Plan.
Town Planer Floyd Forman st
Auble was saying and that this is
problem. Mr. Forman went on to
area is shown as Rural Resident
water and sewer. Mr. Forman
Regulations in that it will not
his area has water and sewer.
ated that he understood what Mr.
nothing more than a typographical
say that the reason most of the
ial is because they do not have
mentioned the Board of Health
effect Mr. Auble because most of
Mr. Auble responded that the definition of Rural Residential
is not really needed, the Board could just say "the land where you
don't have water and sewer you would be controlled by the Board of
Health ".
Ms. Cornell asked what Stuart Brown's comments were.
Town Planner Floyd Forman responded that there were some
comments on SEQR and the SEQR process in one of the letters, and in
one of the presentations made at the Public Hearing on August 31,
1993, and Mr. Forman felt it was necessary for a response as it
related to SEQR.
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Ms. Cornell asked if the Board would approve the SEQR at the
same time the document was approved. Town Planner Floyd Forman
stated that the SEQR approval would come first, then the
resolution.
Board member James Ainslie stated that Mr. Auble still feels
that he should be able to use the land the way he feels it should
be used. Mr. Ainslie stated that he thought the planners feel that
they would like some industrial development there, which would be
about the size of East Hill Plaza. Mr. Ainslie further stated that
Ithaca College is not going to expand, private schools are in
trouble. If the Board could convince Mr. Auble that this was not
being done against him, maybe it would help him out.
Chairperson Grigorov stated that she understood that it was
done because that is what the Town expects to see there in the
future. This is just what we anticipate, no zoning has been
changed or will be changed simply because of this map.
Mr. Ainslie asked that Mr. Auble be able to read the letter
from John Whitcomb, if that was alright with the Board. (Hereto
attached as Exhibit #1)
Board member
Virginia
Langhans asked if
there were any other
section of the map
that had
been changed from
the existing zoning
map. Town Planner
Floyd Forman
responded, yes,
there had been, and
to remember that
this is
anticipated use.
People should not
compare
this
to
the
zoning
map, but to the 1990
and the 1968 land
use maps.
Mr. Auble, referring to potential investors, said that they
look at the map and say that they are not going to get involved in
a problem with a Town that wants to change the zoning for a lesser
density. This map raises a red flag in their minds, and makes it
impossible to negotiate with potential investors. This is the only
major down - zoning Mr. Auble sees in the entire Comprehensive Plan,
which contradicts the principals that the Plan states that dense
zoning should take place where you have infrastructure. Mr. Auble
stated, "I have infrastructure ". Mr. Auble feels that he has been
put at a real disadvantage and feels that he has been penalized.
Chairperson
Grigorov
stated
that there is nothing to keep Mr.
Auble from using
his land
as it
is zoned now.
Town Attorney John Barney stated that the Board held three
neighborhood meetings at which Mr. Auble made his comments and the
Board had the forma]. public hearing at which Mr. Auble also made
his comments. The Board is well aware of Mr. Auble's position,
however, the issue tonight is what this Board wants to do with the
Plan. Mr. Barney stated that the discussion be limited to the
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
September 14, 1993
Board and the issues that are in front of it tonight.
Mr. Ainslie then asked the Board if there was anything to stop
Mr. Auble from developing his property.
Attorney Barney responded, as of today, that is correct.
Town Planner Floyd Forman stated that they are anticipating
development of 4,000 new housing units in the Town over the next
20 years and the purpose of the plan is to accommodate those
people, to accommodate them where we have existing infrastructure,
and where we plan future infrastructure. Mr. Forman stated that we
will accommodate them in an environmentally sensitive way. Mr.
Forman said that it is impossible to please everybody, but the
purpose of the Plan is to be environmentally sensitive and to be
sensitive to peoples pocketbooks so we do not waste money on water
and sewer projects that may not be needed.
Board member Candace Cornell stated that there are issues in
the Comprehensive Plan that she did not feel were strong enough,
and other issues that she believes might be too strong. Although
it may not be perfect, it is a Plan; when the time comes to
implement the Plan that is the time to make points stronger or
weaker. This document does not have the scope to solve everyone's
problems, that is the beauty of the plan, because it enables the
Planning Board to start addressing those problems in a cohesive and
planned fashion. Ms. Cornell stated that by passing the Plan, the
Board opens the door to begin the process of working on these
issues and solving them. Ms. Cornell stated that without the Plan
the Board does not have any mechanism to approach these issues.
Chairperson Grigorov asked the Board about the League of Women
Voters and Dooley Kiefer's idea that a philosophical statement for
the Plan be included within the Plan.
The Board unanimously decided that a philosophical statement
was not wanted or needed.
Board member Candace Cornell
stated that
she was looking
forward to working on
the Comprehensive Plan and
to begin work on
everyone's particular
problems and
the problems
we have with the
Town and the community.
Ms. Cornell
further stated that she would
like to ask the Board
to consider
passing the
Plan so that the
Board could begin work
on it.
Board member Virginia Langhans addressed the Board and stated
that she had spoken with Board Member Robert Kenerson, (Mr.
Kenerson was unable to attend this meeting) prior to the meeting.
Mr. Kenerson asked Ms. Langhans to mention to the Board that he is
concerned that the Board is passing the Plan too quickly, and would
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like to know why the rush to pass it. Ms. Langhans also stated
that Mr. Kenerson felt that the Town of Ithaca should have given
neighboring Towns and Villages more time to look at the
Comprehensive Plan,
Town Planner Floyd Forman stated that the City and County were
given copies of the Comprehensive Plan when the Planning Board
initially received their copies, which was at the beginning of the
year. Anyone who wished to see a copy of the Plan and wanted to
comment have had ample opportunity to do so.
Ms. Langhans stated that she would like to wait until Mr.
Kenerson and Mr. Finch were present to vote on the Comprehensive
Plan.
The Planning Board decided to wait until all participating
members were present: to vote on the adoption of the Comprehensive
Plan.
Board member James Ainslie stated that some of the letters
received from the public were simply confirmation of what was said
publicly at the meeting on August 31, 19936
Chairperson Grigorov stated that the comments made by David
Nutter regarding terminology referring to bicycles should be looked
at and corrected.
Mr. Ainslie stated that he had a concern about bike use within
the Town, the Town controls only a small number of the highways
that go through the Town, so the Town cannot change the County
roads and State roads and put bikeways there.
Attorney John Barney stated the Town of Ithaca could put in a
bikeway with County or New York State Department of Transportation
(NYSDOT) consent because they own the right of way.
Chairperson Grigorov stated that the Town would have to pay
for its construction.
Chairperson Grigorov asked if there were any further comments.
Board member James Ainslie stated that he had a question
regarding comments made by Mr. Stotz at the August 31, 1993 Public
Hearing. Mr. Stotz had mentioned the agricultural land on West
Hill. and did not see why there could not be a lot more development
there and that the octopus would make this a very desirable place
to live. However, Mr. Ainslie added that one of the big problems
is that there is no water up there. There is no need for
development up there.
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
September 14, 1993
Town Planner Floyd Forman asked if the Board wanted him to
come to them with a list of the typo's for their approval or would
the Board prefer that the Planning staff just take care of the
changes and then report to the Board what has been done.
The
Board
concurred
that the
changes could be done by the
Planning
staff
without their
prior
approval.
AGENDA ITEM: REPORT OF THE TOWN PLANNER.
There was
not
a report
from the Town Planner at this time.
This portion of
the
meeting
was closed.
AGENDA ITEM: ADJOURNMENT.
Upon Motion, Chairperson Grigorov declared the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board meeting of September 14, 1993 duly closed at 9:42
p.m.
12/13/93
Respectfully submitted,
"JA �/ e-
StarrRae Hays,
Town of Ithaca
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Recording Secretary
Planning Board