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TOWN OF ITHACA
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• TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
MAY 51 1987
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday , May 5 , 1987 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street , Ithaca ,
New York , at 7 : 30 p . m .
PRESENT : Chairman Montgomery May , William Lesser , James Baker , Robert
Kenerson , David Klein , Carolyn Grigorov , John C . Barney
( Town Attorney ) , Robert R . Flumerfelt ( Town Engineer ) , Susan
C . Beeners ( Town Planner ) , Andrew S . Frost ( Building
Inspector / Zoning Enforcement Officer , Mary S . Bryant
( Recording Secretary ) ,
ALSO PRESENT : Ruth Peter , Sam Peter , William D . Corbin , Karl Mount ,
E . L . Rose Gostanian Monkemeyer , Andrew Sciarabba ,
Herbert D . Brewer , Douglas Armstrong , Herbert Deinert ,
Robert F . Walpole , Glenn Munson .
Chairman May declared the meeting duly opened at 7 : 30 p . m . and
accepted for the record the Clerk ' s Affidavit of Posting and
Publication of the Notice of Public Hearings in Town Hall and the
Ithaca Journal on April 27 , 1987 and April 30 , 1987 , respectively ,
• together with the Secretary ' s Affidavit of Service by Mail of said
Notice upon the various neighbors of each of the properties under
discussion , as appropriate , upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of
Public Works , upon the Tompkins County Commissioner of Planning , and
upon the applicants and / or agent , as appropriate , on April 29 , 1987 .
SIGN REVIEW BOARD : CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING
BOARD OF APPEALS WITH RESPECT TO AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING SIGN IN A
RESIDENCE DISTRICT R- 15 AT THE ENTRANCE TO TOMPKINS COMMUNITY HOSPITAL
ON TRUMANSBURG ROAD , SUCH ADDITION TO BE APPROXIMATELY 10 SQUARE FEET
IN SIZE AND " TO IDENTIFY THE TOMPKINS COMMUNITY MEDICAL OFFICE
BUILDING . TOMPKINS MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING ASSOCIATES , APPLICANTS ,
WILLIAM D . COR:BIN , AGENT .
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SIGN REVIEW BOARD : CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING
BOARD OF APPEALS WITH RESPECT TO A SECOND ADDITION TO AN EXISTING SIGN
IN A RESIDENCE DISTRICT R- 15 AT THE ENTRANCE TO TOMPKINS COMMUNITY
HOSPITAL ON TRUMANSBURG ROAD , SUCH ADDITION TO BE APPROXIMATELY 10
SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND TO IDENTIFY THE TOMPKINS COUNTY BIGGS CENTER ,
TOMPKINS COUNTY BUILDING AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT , APPLICANT ; KARL J .
MOUNT , AGENT , ON BEHALF OF TOMPKINS COMMUNITY HOSPITAL .
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Chairman May opened discussion on the above - noted matters at 7 : 30
p . m . and read aloud from the Agenda as noted above .
Mr . Karl J . Mount appeared before the Board . and stated that one
of the proposed signs is for the Tompkins Community Medical Office
Building is to be located at the main entrance to the Hospital and is
74 " x 20 " x 9j " , and the other sign is for the Biggs Center , measuring
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• the same , and is also to be located on the Hospital sign .
Chairman May wondered if the print on all of the signs was going
to be the same , with Mr . Mount responding , yes , that is correct ,
adding that the County has asked permission to put a sign there too
with 'the condition that the color scheme and print is the same as the
present signage . Mr . Kenerson asked about available space on that one
sign if anything else should happen in this area . Mr . Mount stated
that there would not be any more space once the County puts their sign
there , adding that when the County approached him as to their sign ,
they stated that they would erect a sign temporarily pending what was
going to happen with Route 96 . Mr . Mount stated that , depending upon
the configuration once Route 96 is resolved , he did not think that the
signage would change anything at that point . Mr . Mount stated that
the Hospital sign is illuminated and the new signs are reflective .
Chairman May asked if there were any questions or comments from
the Board . There being none , Chairman May asked if anyone cared to
make a motion .
MOTION by Mr . Robert Kenerson , seconded by Mrs . Carolyn Grigorov :
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board , in its capacity
as Sign Review Board , recommend and hereby does recommend to the Town
of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals that a variance from the
• requirements of Section 4 . 01 - 1a of the Town of Ithaca Sign Law be
granted to permit the addition of two ( 2 ) sign panels to the existing
sign owned by Tompkins Community Hospital reading " Tompkins Community
Hospital " , located at 1285 Trumansburg Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel
No . 6 - 24 - 3 - 2 . 1 , Residence District R- 30 , as proposed and presented to
said Planning Board on May 5 , 1987 , by Karl L . Mount , Agent for the
Tompkins Community Hospital , on behalf of both Tompkins Medical Office
Building Associates and Tompkins County Buildings and Grounds , with
said two additional sign panels reading and sized as follows .
1 . " Tompkins Community Medical Office Building " , 10 . 28 sq . ft .
( Tompkins Medical Office Building Associates , Applicant , William
D . Corbin Agent . ) ,
2 . " Tompkins County Biggs Center " , 10 . 28 sq . ft . ( Tompkins County
Building and Grounds , Applicant ; Donn A . Williams , Agent . ) ,
said Planning Board having found that the above - described sign panels
to be added to said existing Tompkins Community Hospital sign are :
a . compatible with the surroundings and appropriate to the
architectural character of the sign on which they are to be
placed ,
be appropriate to the type of activity to which they pertain ,
co legible in the circumstances under which they are seen , and
do expressive of the identity of individual enterprises but not
out of character with the community .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
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• Aye - May , Grigorov , Klein , Kenerson , Baker , Lesser .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Chairman May declared the matter of the two additional sign
panels for the Hospital sign duly closed at 7 : 41 p . m .
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW : CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF TOWN
OF ITHACA TAX :PARCEL N0 . 6 - 27 - 1 - 20 . 2 , 57 . 04 ACRES TOTAL , LOCATED IN AN
AGRICULTURAL ZONE AT 1440 MECKLENBURG ROAD , INTO TWO PARCELS OF 42 ±
ACRES AND 15 ± ACRES , EDNA B . SCHILLING ET AL , OWNERS , ROBERT F .
WALPOLE , MUNSON REALTY , AGENT ,
Chairman May opened discussion on the above - noted matter at 7 : 42
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Mr . Robert Walpole of Munson Realty appeared before the Board ,
appended a drawing to the bulletin board , and stated that , basically ,
they are offering this property at public auction . Mr . Walpole
explained that there are four parcels and three tax parcels involved
- - one that is called the tenant house , which is the small parcel
measuring 185 feet by 227 feet [ Parcel No . 6 - 27 - 1 - 211 . Mr . Walpole
stated that there is another parcel behind the tenant house consisting
of 12 acres [ Parcel No . 6 - 27 - 1 - 22 . 2 ] , and the 57 - acre parcel under
• discussion , which contains the main farm and the main house with 430
feet of road frontage at one point and 222 feet of frontage at another
point . Mr . Walpole , commenting that the property is going to be
disposed of in four different ways , and indicating on the map , stated
that they will offer the " blue section " , Parcel 1 on the map , which is
classified as a. tenant house and which has a separate tax parcel . Mr .
Walpole stated that the " yellow section " is proposed Parcel 2 which
contains the main house and main barn and is proposed to be
approximately 15 acres in size with the 430 feet of frontage . Mr .
Walpole stated that proposed Parcel 3 is the " pink section " which has
the 222 feet of frontage and will contain approximately 42 acres . Mr .
Walpole stated that Parcel 4 , the " green section " , is the separate tax
parcel containing 12 acres . Mr . Walpole indicated that the property
will also be offered as an entire package . Mr . Walpole stated that
this meeting is to inform the Planning Board as to the plans at this
point in time , adding that if the property is sold as individual
parcels , Parcel 4 will not be landlocked , and further adding that if
there are not any bids on parcel 4 , it will be tied in with Parcel 3
and sold as a unit .
Chairman May asked if anyone had any questions or comments .
Dr . Lessen- wondered about access to Parcel 4 and asked Mr .
Walpole if he would consider a right of way through Parcel 1 as a
means of separation . Mr . Munson responded that at this point he would
not give a right of way through Parcel 1 , adding that the creek is
• right there .
Town Attorney Barney stated that , technically , the offering is in
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• violation of the law without having a subdivision . Mr . Munson noted
that the proposal before the Board is not just for the sale itself , it
is not advertised . Mr . Walpole responded that it will be in the
purchase offer if it is sold that way , adding that any purchase can
have a contingency on it , such as , subject to the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board approval of subdivision .
Chairman .May asked if anyone else had any questions . There being
none , Chairman May declared the matter of the Edna B . Schilling et al
Sketch Plan Review duly closed at 7 : 52 p . m .
PUBLIC HEARING : CONSIDERATION OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF PROPOSED
SECOND - STORY ADDITION TO SAM PETER TV , FURNITURE , AND APPLICANCES ,
INC . , LOCATED IN A BUSINESS " C " DISTRICT , AT 1083 DANBY ROAD , TOWN OF
ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 43 - 1 - 5 . SAM PETER , OWNER / APPLICANT .
Chairman May declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted
matter duly opened at 7 : 55 p . m . and read aloud from the Notice of
Public Hearings as posted and published and as noted above . Mr . Peter
was present .
Chairman May invited Mr . Peter to address the Board . Mr . Peter
stated that he was proposing a 30 feet by 90 feet second floor to be
built on part of his existing store to be used for storage . Mr . Peter
stated that the proposed addition would be used strictly for furniture
• storage , adding that a six - foot ramp would be erected which will be
almost level . Mr . Peter stated that the building will be of an A- Roof
design and will join the other existing A- Roof .
Chairman May wondered what the height of the proposed addition is
going to be , with Mr . Peter responding , 20 feet . Mr . Peter stated
that there will not be any signs on the building .
Chairman May noted that this was a Public Hearing and asked if
anyone wished to speak to this matter .
Mrs . E . L . Rose Gostanian Monkemeyer , 1058 Danby Road , spoke from
the floor and ;stated that she did not think there was going to be any
room for parking . Mrs . Monkemeyer stated that she thought Mr . Peter
should improve the appearance of his garbage dump and also the shed in
the back .
Mr . Peter responded that he did not think this proposal had
anything to do with the " dump " which Mrs . Monkemeyer was referring to
and , furthermore , he has never had a parking problem .
Chairman May asked if anyone else wished to speak . No one spoke .
Chairman May closed the Public Hearing at 8 : 00 p . m . and brought the
matter back to the Board for consideration .
Dr . Lesser stated that he lives in the area and has never
• observed any parking problems . Town Attorney Barney if . Mr . Peter ' s
business including this proposal is in compliance with the parking
requirements , with Ms . Beeners responding , yes . Chairman May asked
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• Mr . Frost if he knew of any parking problems at this site . Mr . Frost
responded , no , adding that he has travelled past the area many times
and had never observed any problem . Dr . Lesser wondered if the
proposal is approved as presented , would the use of the second story
be limited to storage , noting that there is a mention of this as
storage on the Short EAF , Mr . Frost stated that there would be some
very specific code limitations , adding that the permit application and
plans as shown would not be acceptable for other than storage .
There being no other questions or comments , Chairman May asked
for a motion .
MOTION by Mrs . Carolyn Grigorov , seconded by Mr . James Baker :
WHEREAS :
1 . This action is the consideration of Site Plan Approval for a
proposed second- story addition to Sam Peter TV , Furniture , and
Appliances , Inc . , located in a Business " C " District at 1083
Danby Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 43 - 1 - 5 , to be used
for storacre .
2 . This is an Unlisted action for which the Planning Board has been
legislatively determined to act as Lead Agency for environmental
review , and for which the Town Planner has recommended a negative
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determination of environmental significance , subject to approval
of final building plans by the Town of Ithaca Building Inspector ,
THEREFORE , IT IS RESOLVED :
That the Planning Board make and hereby does make a negative
determination of environmental significance for the action .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - May , Grigorov , Baker , Klein , Kenerson , Lesser .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously :
MOTION by :Mrs . Carolyn Grigorov , seconded by Mr . James Baker :
WHEREAS :
1 . This action is the consideration of Site Plan Approval for a
proposed second - story addition to Sam Peter TV , Furniture , and
Appliances , Inc . , located in a Business " C " District at 1083
Danby Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 43 - 1 - 5 , to be used
for storage .
2 . This is an Unlisted action for which the Planning Board , acting
• as Lead Agency for environmental review , has made a negative
determination of environmental significance .
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• 3 . The Planning Board Board at a Public Hearing on May 5 , 1987 has
reviewed a Short Environmental Assessment Form , and a site plan
showing the proposed second - story , 30 ft . by 90 ft . by 8 ft .
addition .
THEREFORE , IT IS RESOLVED :
That the Planning Board grant and hereby does grant Site Plan
Approval for the proposed addition as presented , for storage purposes
only , subject to approval of the final building plans by the Town of
Ithaca Building Inspector .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - May , Grigorov , Baker , Klein , Kenerson , Lesser .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Chairman May declared the matter of the addition to Sam Peter TV
duly closed at 8 : 06 p . m .
PUBLIC HEARING ,: CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD
OF APPEALS WITH RESPECT TO A REQUEST FOR SPECIAL APPROVAL OF A SCHOOL
USE , PURSUANT TO ARTICLE IV , SECTION 11 , PARAGRAPH 4 , OF THE TOWN OF
• ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE , FOR THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A NURSERY
SCHOOL BUILDING ON A PORTION OF TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO ,
6 - 60 - 1 - 16 , LOCATED IN A RESIDENCE DISTRICT R- 15 , AT 142 HONNESS LANE ,
FOR THE PROPOSED RELOCATION OF AN EXISTING MONTESSORI NURSERY SCHOOL
( LITTLE FEET ) CURRENTLY IN OPERATION AT 139 HONNESS LANE , TOWN OF
ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 58 - 2 - 39 . 6 . JOHN AND DORIS PERIALAS , PROPERTY
OWNERS , JOHN AND VALERIE LITTLEFIELD , APPLICANTS .
APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED ADJOURNMENT UNTIL 7 : 45 P . M . , MAY 19 , 1987 .
Chairman May declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted
matter duly opened at 8 : 07 p . m . and read aloud from the Notice of
Public Hearing : as posted and published and as noted above . Chairman
May stated that the applicant - has requested adjournment until 7 : 45
p . m . on May 19 , 1987 .
MOTION by Mr . Montgomery May , seconded by Mr . Robert Kenerson :
RESOLVED , that the Public Hearing in the matter of the Little
Feet Montessori Nursery School be and hereby is adjourned to 7 : 45 p . m .
on May 19 , 1987 .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - May , Grigorov , Baker , Klein , Kenerson , Lesser .
Nay - None .
• The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Chairman May declared the Little Feet Montessori Nursery School
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matter duly adjourned at 8 : 09 p . m .
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW : CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A
BUILDING FOR THE TOMPKINS COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO BE USED AS
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE EXECUTIVE HEADQUARTERS AND TOURIST INFORMATION
CENTER , AND BY THE VISITORS AND CONVENTION BUREAU , PROPOSED TO BE
LOCATED AT 904 EAST SHORE DRIVE , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO .
6 - 18 - 2 - 10 . STANLEY J . AND MARY ANN BOWMAN , PROPERTY OWNERS , TOMPKINS
COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE , APPLICANT : ANDREW SCIARABBA , AGENT .
Chairman May opened discussion on the above - noted matter at 8 : 10
p . m . Mr . Herbert Brewer , Executive Director of the Chamber of
Commerce and :Mr . Andrew Sciarabba , Chairman of the Task Force for
Relocation of the Chamber of Commerce Offices were present .
Mr . Sciarabba addressed the Board and stated that the Chamber is
in the process of acquiring property at 904 East Shore Drive from the
current owners , Mr . and Mrs . Stanley Bowman . Mr . Sciarabba stated
that the Chamber plans to remove or demolish the existing structures
and construct a two - story building of approximately 4 , 000 total square
feet toward the rear of the property with parking toward the front of
the property . Mr . Sciarabba stated that there will be access to the
property from Route 34 and from the driveway across property
immediately south owned by the City of Ithaca . Mr . Sciarabba noted
that the lot itself is not large enough to handle both access and exit
• from Route 34 . Mr . Sciarabba stated that the Chamber has met
informally with a Committee of the City of Ithaca Board of Public
Works and at that time presented the concept of licensing , adding that
the Chamber needs licensing from the City of Ithaca for one -way access
off Cayuga Street Extension to the Bowman property and for additional
parking . Mr . Sciarabba stated that there will be some additional
parking on that access driveway and the exit , when leaving the
property , will be onto Route 34 .
Mr . Sciarabba stated that the proposed structure will house the
Chamber ' s Administrative Offices and , more importantly , it would house
a Visitors and Convention Bureau as well as a Tourist Information
Center , adding that it would be a building for all of the Chamber ' s
activities .
Chairman May stated that he was having trouble locating the
Bowman property on the drawing because Parcel " C " , which he figured
was it , was not marked . Indicating on the map , Mr . Sciarabba stated
that Lot A is City land , Lot B is City land , and Lot C is the Bowman
property which is 60 feet by 243 feet . Chairman May inquired about
the open land behind the Bowman property . Mr . Sciarabba stated that
that was also City land .
Mrs . Grigorov expressed her concern about traffic . Dr . Lesser
suggested to Mr . Sciarabba that he point out to the Committee as a
whole that the Chamber ' s proposal means placing the boundary line very
• close to the City land since the lot line is adjacent to the proposed
building . Chairman May suggested making that part of the license .
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Mr . Klein commented that the proposed location would serve a lot
more people with recreational vehicles and trailers .
There appearing to be no further comments or questions , Chairman
May declared the Sketch Plan Review of the Chamber of Commerce
proposal duly closed at 8 : 25 p . m .
NON -AGENDA ITEM
Mr . Frost: distributed to each Board member a copy of his March
1987 Report ,
NON -AGENDA ITEM
Dr . Lesser stated that he received a packet addressed to him and
Mr . Klein from Town Councilwoman Raffensperger pertaining to a study
of the South Hill water situation . Dr . Lesser stated that he and Mr .
Klein will look over the material and report back to the Board .
NON-AGENDA ITEM
Chairman May asked Mr . Flumerfelt when the Forest Home Traffic
counts will . be completed . Mr . Flumerfelt stated that the plan is to
complete the traffic counts by May 15th , adding that notices were sent
out stating that Judd Falls Road would be reopened to two -way traffic
• the first week in May .
Chairman May stated that he would like Mr . Flumerfelt to look at
the South Hill traffic count . Mr . Flumerfelt stated that he would do
so and report back to the Board on the situation .
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - February 17 , 1987
MOTION by Mr . Robert Kenerson , seconded by Dr . William Lesser :
RESOLVED , that the Minutes of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board
Meeting of February 17 , 1987 , be and hereby are approved as written .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - May , Grigorov , Baker , Klein , Kenerson , Lesser .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
ADJOURNMENT
Upon Motion , Chairman May declared the May 5 , 1987 meeting of the
Town of Ithaca :Planning Board duly adjourned at 8 : 45 p . m .
• Respectfully submitted ,
Mary S . Bryant , Recording Secretary ,
Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary ,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board .