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Planning Board - 2 - May 17 , 1983
Vice Chairman Grigorov asked if there were anyone present
who wished to speak for or against the matter before the Board .
There was no public comment .
Mr . Fabbroni spoke about the issue concerning the connecting
road and the $ 25 , 000 sum to be set aside as the cost of providing
the shortest access to the Hospital . Mr . Fabbroni stated that
what we have talked about , really , is preferring to see what
happens to the Route 96 plan in the hopes that the NYSDOT would
build the access since they would be closing off the present
access . He commented that this would be best - including best
for the Doctors since there would be no expense regarding an
alternate . Mr . Fabbroni noted that the question remaining in
this regard from the last meeting was how to do that in the best
way and stated that he had contacted Peter Grossman , Town
Attorney , and he suggested that it would be sufficient to have
some sort of escrow account established of the Doctors ' choosing ,
i . e . , some third party escrow to hold that sum with it invested
as the Doctors please insofar as it is not in a speculative
venture and with words to that effect . It could be in
certificates , bonds , or things of that nature . Mr . Fabbroni
thought that this plan could be worked out satisfactorily to both
the Doctors and the Town with certain words setting forth what
the holding was for , adding that Mr . Grossman had felt that such
an approach could be worked out . Mr . Fabbroni stated that he had
• not really had a chance to bounce this plan off the Doctors but
that he felt it was reasonable .
Vice Chairman Grigorov inquired if the Board should go ahead
with the site plan approval before this matter was decided . Mr .
Fabbroni stated that his thought was that the Board could pass
the site plan contingent upon a satisfactory mechanism being set
up for the holding specifying the amount of money and terms .
Mrs . Langhans commented that if the front road does not go
through , this would be for the back connection to the Hospital
grounds . Mr . Fabbroni stated that if the road became a local
liability , this amount of money set aside would go toward the
total construction of that road with the balance picked up by the
County , Town , and Hospital . He further stated that we would not
really know until at least January or February of 1984 , which is
the projection for Route 96 to come to design stage . Mr .
Fabbroni stated that Mr . Grossman suggested a two - year holding .
After that time , the money could either be freed up or put toward
some sort of construction within that time frame . Mr . Fabbroni
noted that this would not be a perpetual holding - the money
would be held in trust during that period of time .
Mr . Klein noted that this money would only be used if the
Route 96 plans were never eventuated . Mr . Fabbroni said that
that was correct . Mr . Fabbroni further stated that we would know
if they were on track sometime within the next 24 months and
whether a go or a no go . If the particulars of the design we know
are a go then we would free up the money and give the good
Doctors our thanks for their commitment . If it were a no - go ,
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
MAY 17 , 1983
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on
Tuesday , May 17 , 1983 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street ,
Ithaca , N . Y . , at 7 : 00 P . M .
PRESENT : Vice Chairman Carolyn Grigorov , David Klein , Edward
Mazza , James Baker , Bernard Stanton , Virginia Langhans ,
Lawrence P . Fabbroni ( Town Engineer ) , Nancy M . Fuller
( Secretary ) .
ALSO PRESENT : Robert A . Boehlecke Jr . , Dr . Frederick M .
Mitchell , John Manheim , Donald R . Odell , NYS
Department of State , Town Councilwoman Dooley
Kiefer , Bruce Ryan ( WHCU ) , Jeremy House ( WTKO ) .
Vice Chairman Grigorov declared the meeting duly opened at
7 : 05 p . m .
PUBLIC HEARING : CONSIDERATION OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED
ADDITION TO EXISTING BUILDING ( REAR ) , TOMPKINS COUNTY
PROFESSIONAL BUILDING , 1301 TRUMANSBURG ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX
PARCEL NO . 6 - 24 - 3 - 4 . DR . FREDERICK M . MITCHELL , TOMPKINS COUNTY
PROFESSIONAL BUILDING CORP . , APPLICANT ; ROBERT A . BOEHLECKE , JR .
ARCHITECT .
Vice Chairman Grigorov declared the Public Hearing in the
above - noted matter duly opened at 7 : 06 p . m . and accepted for the
record the Clerk ' s Affidavit of Posting and Publication of the
Notice of Public Hearing in Town Hall and the Ithaca Journal on
May 9 , 1983 and May 12 , 1983 , respectively . Vice Chairman
Grigorov read aloud the Notice as above and asked Mr . Boehlecke
to speak to the matter .
Mr . Boehlecke distributed copies of the site plan , stating
that it is the same as that which was presented at. the May 3rd
Planning Board meeting , i . e . , the location of the proposed
building is the same . The plans that he passed out were the same
plans that Board members had reviewed at the last meeting . Mr .
Boehlecke pointed to the drawings on the bulletin board as he
explained the elevations and the location of the proposed
addition in relation to the present buildings as well as the
floor plans for both the upper and lower levels . He also pointed
out the latest proposed connection as shown before .
Mr . Mazza asked if any changes had been made since the last
meeting . Mr . Boehlecke stated that in terms of the site plan ,
i . e . , roads , parking , building size and location , no changes had
been made since the last meeting .
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then some serious discussions would have to be held with the
Hospital and the County to apply the funds toward the alternate
construction .
Mr . Mazza stated that the money to be set aside in escrow is
being required because this Board thinks another access is
necessary . Mr . Fabbroni said that that was correct . Mr . Mazza
wanted to know if the Town ever did have any traffic counts to
establish that this is definitely necessary . Mr . Fabbroni stated
that , in simplicity , it was always known that this access to the
Professional Building from Route 96 was difficult . He also
pointed out that , within zoning , the site that is now available
is pretty much being saturated . Mr . Fabbroni stated that the
Town has recognized for years that that driveway is less than
desirable , if only from a safety point of view . Cars must enter
a highway , negotiate a slope , and enter a high speed road . The
chances for a collision are quite high in this particular
location . He stated , from that standpoint he can say , absent of
any other factor , that that is a life or death situation , adding
that if there were not an alternate access or another access
constructed , we would be adding to what is recognized already as
a critical flaw of the original plan . Mr . Fabbroni pointed out
that it was under the site plan discussions held by the Board
that discussion of the alternate access came in , not unlike the
Board ' s discussions of a subdivision and their judgment that
beyond a certain number of houses a second access is needed .
• Mr . Mazza commented that it was obviously Mr . Fabbroni ' s
opinion that this intersection was hazardous and another
intersection was necessary . Mr . Fabbroni said this was correct .
Mrs . Langhans stated that 15 % to 20 % additional parking is
being added . Mr . Klein stated that the amount of floor areas is
being increased by about 40 % . Mrs . Grigorov stated that it has
already been determined that there is more than adequate parking .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that this was correct , noting that there are
some 39 parking spaces to be added over the minimum required
under the zoning ordinance . Mr . Stanton noted that the proposal
adds about one - third more floor space to which Mr . Boehlecke
agreed . Mr . Stanton stated that he thought the Minutes said that
almost no access would be better and Mrs . Langhans commented on
the point in the Minutes about " through traffic " .
Mr . Mazza asked about the garbage pick - up . Dr . Mitchell
stated that there is no " garbage " at the Professional Building ;
there is no perishable material to be picked up . Mr . Mazza asked
Dr . Mitchell to describe how waste is taken care of physically .
Dr . Mitchell explained that there are enclosed cans in
lattice - type compartments located outside . He further stated
that there will be a large open area downstairs in the new
addition that will be used for storage and probably waste
. disposal and pick - up .
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• Vice Chairman Grigorov asked that the Board turn to the
review of the Environmental Assessment Form ( Short Form ) as
signed and submitted by Mr . Boehlecke , dated April 10 , 1983 , and
reviewed by Mr . Fabbroni on April 14 , 1983 . All questions had
been answered " no " . Mrs . Grigorov asked for Board comment ; there
was none . Mrs . Grigorov read the reviewer ' s recommendations
which stated that a , negative impact was being recommended if
project includes commitment to developing a second access , an
alternate to present driveway to Route 96 .
MOTION by Mr . Bernard Stanton , seconded by Mr . Edward Mazza :
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board , acting as
lead agency in the review of the site plan for proposed addition
to existing building ( rear ) , Tompkins County Professional
Building , 1301 Trumansburg Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No .
6 - 24 - 3 - 4 , approve and hereby does approve the Environmental
Assessment Form as completed ; and
FURTHER RESOLVED , that pursuant to the State Environmental
Quality Review Act , Part 617 , this action is classified as
Unlisted , and
FURTHER RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board ,
has determined from the Environmental Assessment Form and all
pertinent information that the above - mentioned action will not
. significantly impact the environment and , therefore , will not
require further environmental review .
There being no further discussion , the Vice Chair called for
a vote .
Aye - Klein , Grigorov , Mazza , Baker , Stanton , Langhans .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Mr . Fabbroni asked Dr . Mitchell to give his reactions to the
proposed escrow plan .
Dr . Mitchell stated that he agreed with the plan of the
placement of the $ 25 , 000 in escrow in the manner that had been
described by Mr . Fabbroni with the termination date also as
described by Mr . Fabbroni and with termination also if the
governing parties do not agree and with the interest on such
account returning to the Corporation .
MOTION by Mr . Edward Mazza , seconded by Mr . James Baker :
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board grant and
hereby does grant final site plan approval for proposed addition
. to existing building ( rear ) , Tompkins County Professional
Building , 1301 Trumansburg Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No .
6 - 24 - 3 - 4 , in accordance with site plan , details , and elevation
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drawings presented to and reviewed by said Board this date , May
17 , 1983 [ Site Plan bearing date 5 / 2 / 83 , other drawings dated
5 / 17 / 831 prepared by Robert A . Boehlecke Jr . , Architect ,
conditioned upon the Tompkins County Professional Building
Corporation entering into an agreement acceptable to the Town
Attorney wherein they will deposit the sum of $ 25 , 000 in an
escrow account , with interest from that account being credited to
the Tompkins County Professional Building Corporation , for the
purpose of constructing a possible alternate access to the site
from the Hospital grounds in the event that the Hospital
connection is not financed by the New York State Department of
Transportation ; this agreement to terminate upon the Department
of Transportation ' s commitment to construct an alternate route ,
upon the Town ' s request to use those funds for the
above - mentioned alternate route , or the passage of twenty - four
months from the execution of said agreement .
There being no further discussion , the Vice Chair called for
a vote .
Aye - Klein , Grigorov , Mazza , Baker , Stanton , Langhans .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Vice Chairman Grigorov declared the Public Hearing in the
matter of the Professional Building addition duly closed at 7 : 30
p . m .
Mr . Mazza requested permission to be excused and was granted
same .
NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF STATE , DIVISION OF COMMUNITY
AFFAIRS , PRESENTATION OF AN INFORMATION / TRAINING SEMINAR ENTITLED
" SOLAR ACCESS THROUGH ZONING " BY MR . DONALD R . ODELL ,
Mr . Donald R . Odell , Planner , from the New York State
Department of. State , Division of Community Affairs , presented an
information / training seminar entitled Solar Access Through
Zoning . Mr . Odell presented a film and information , both written
and oral , with respect to solar energy systems / solar access
concerns and the relationship between Chapter 742 of the Laws of
the State of New York and local zoning laws . A question and
answer period followed his excellent and informative
presentation .
Vice Chairman Grigorov and those present thanked Mr . Odell
for coming , once again , to the Town of Ithaca . Mr . Odell stated
that he would be happy to return .
ADJOURNMENT
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Upon Motion , Vice Chairman Grigorov declared the May 17 ,
1983 meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board duly adjourned
at 9 : 30 p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary ,
Town of Ithaca Planning Board .