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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
TUESDAY , OCTOBER 23 , 1979
The Town of Ithaca Planning Board met in regular session on Tuesday ,
October 23 , 1979 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street ( second floor ) ,
Ithaca , N . Y . , at 7 : 30 p . m .
PRESENT : Chairman Henry Aron , Montgomery May , Edward Mazza , Carolyn
Grigorov , Barbara Schultz , Liese Bronfenbrenner , James Baker , Bernard
Stanton , Barbara Restaino ( Planner ) .
ALSO PRESENT : Town Councilwoman Shirley Raffensperger , E . Frederick
Holst , Bev Schmidt , Robert Schmidt , E . L . Hollister , Robert I . Wright ,
Donald Riker , Helen Riker , Elizabeth B . Meiczinger , Delphine E . Redline ,
T . G . Miller , Charles A . Foote , Pat Brazo , Bill Brazo , Evan Monkemeyer ,
y' Michele VanBuren ( WTKO ) , Kathy Kaplan ( WHCU ) .
Chairman Aron declared the meeting duly opened at 7 : 40 p . m .
AJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING : MONKEMEYER MATTER , 5 - LOT SUBDIVISION , EAST KING
ROAD .
Since neither Mr . Monkemeyer nor anyone to respresent him was present
at this point , the Board agreed to set this matter aside until later in
the meeting .
ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING : WRIGHT MATTER , REZONING FROM R - 30 TO MULTIPLE
RESIDENCE AND COMMERCIAL , 1319 MECKLENBURG ROAD .
• The Chair declared the Adjourned Public Hearing ( adjourned from
October 2 , . 1979 ) duly opened at 7 : 45 p . m .
Mr . Aron read a letter received from Lois D . King , 181 West Haven
Road , dated October 23 , 1979 , as follows :
" Mr . Henry Aron , Chairman
Members of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board
Because I cannot be present at this evening ' s meeting of the Town
Planning Board , I submit to you my statement in writing .
Mr . Robert Wright has requested a change in zoning of the property
known as 1319 Mecklenburg Rd . His request consists of two parts :
1 ) that the property on which his house is located be changed to Multi -
family , to enable him to put into the house an additional apartment ;
2 ) that the remainder of the 6 . 69 acres of property be zoned commercial .
I am deeply concered about these requests , and ask that the Board
consider the total zoning plan for the Town as the guiding factor .
1 ) The house in question appears to have once been a beautiful homestead .
The exterior of the house is currently in dire need of attention . Does
• Mr . Wright propose to the Planning Board that he would guarantee to fix
the exterior of the house , if in fact he is permitted to add another
apartment to the interior ?
2 ) I am unalterably opposed to the spot - rezoning of the remainder of the
property to commercial use . While Mr . - Wright states that he would continue
the present non - conforming usage should a zoning change be made , there is
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no guarantee of any future use of that property . Once the change has been
made from its current non - conforming usage , there can obviously be any -
thing situated there that would fit the requirements of " commercial " .
The neighborhood in which the property lies is a residential one ,
not a commercial one . I have seen what havoc spot - zoning can produce in
a well - planned community , having lived on Long Island for many years , and
having witnessed the demise of many a once beautiful , old neighborhood .
I urge you , members of the Board , to take my concerns into your
considerations , when it comes time to make your decision regarding Mr .
Wright ' s requests .
Thank you for your attention .
Respectfully ,
( sgd . ) Lois D . King
181 West Haven Rd .
Ithaca , New York "
Mr . Aron turned now to the matter of Board discussion of the Environ -
mental Assessment Form ( Short Form ) , the Planning Board being the lead
agent in this matter .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked , before discussion began on the EAF what
the size is of each of the proposed zones . Mr . Wright stated that he
is requesting that 240 ' x 300 ' be zoned multi - family , which is approximately
1 . 7 acres , or 72 , 000 sq . ft . ; the balance , approximately 5 acres is re -
quested to be zoned commercial .
Discussion began' - . on the EAF with Mr . Stanton questioning Items # 11 and
# 12 and stating that there could be considerable change depending on the
commercial use that might happen in the future .
Mr . Mazza asked if this EAF goes for both the proposals . Mr . Wright
replied that it did . Mr . Mazza stated that a lot of the answers ( all " No " )
are questionable in terms of both proposals .
Mr . Stanton commented that he took it that no building is implied .
Mr . Aron described the benefits of the EAF in terms of the Board , the
neighbors , the Town , and the area .
Mr . Mazza asked Mr . Wright why he wanted it zoned commercial if he
is not going to build anything there and variances have been granted ever
since this was a farm for various types of activities . Mr . Wright replied ,
basically because that is the present use - - it has been a commercial
hatchery . Mr . Mazza described the meaning of " non - conforming " . He stated
that it was his opinion that Mr . Wright has been very fortunate and the
Board of Appeals has been very permissive . It was commented that essen -
tially non - conforming uses are supposed to just fade away . Mr . Mazza added
that insofar as the multi - family request , Mr . Wright can keep it as it is
because it was prior to zoning , and that such a rezoning would be contrary
to the zoning intent .
• Mr . Wright pointed out that with a multi - family designation he could
then do some of the things that have been suggested , such as painting the
house .
Mr . Mazza asked Mr . Wright when he purchased this property . Mr .
Wright replied , a year ago , June .
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Mr . Aron asked if there were a report from the ad hoc committee that
toured the property in question . - - Mr . Stanton , Mrs . Grigorov , Mrs . Bron -
fenbrenner ,
Mr . Stanton reported that the group went last Tuesday , October 16th ,
to visit the site . He commented that they went unannounced and the
Wrights were very cooperative . He stated that it was raining and they
looked across the Lake . He stated that they walked the property and it
was clear that it was a very large farm . He noted that there was a very
substantial fire there about two years ago ( indicating on map presented
by Mr . Wright ) . Mr . Stanton stated that part of the remains of the fire
have been taken away - - the valuable metal has been taken away - - the
area not properly bulldozed , and is not very attractive . He stated that
there are a number of out - buildings . He indicated on the plan the area
that has been used commercially and includes a variety of sheds .
Mr . Stanton stated that the properties . immediately ,. behind . it . . _ andto
the east are used for farm purposes and are in a good state of farm
cultivation . He noted a good crop of alfalfa on both sides and some
livestock quartered almost immediately behind this 6 + acre plot .
Mr . Stanton stated that the tenant house is occupied and is immediate -
ly adjacent to the main residence .
Mr . Stanton commented on one other thing that is not on the map , that
being that the main driveway leading back to the area now used for
antiques ( first driveway ) is a paved macadam unit .
Mr . Stanton concluded his statement noting that they did not go into
the house itself .
Referring to the EAF , Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked in connection with
Items # 10 and # 11 , how many units there are there now . ( Secretary ' s Note :
See Official Minutes of this meeting - - attachment thereto - - Planning
Board Note of 8 / 13 / 74 . ) Mr . Wright replied :
1 . Tenant :- House .` " one .- unit .
2 . Main House = 15 rooms , 4 baths - three apartments now , including the
Wrights .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner inquired about fire escapes . Mr . Wright stated
that there is an outside exit .
Mr . Aron asked what uses Mr . Wright was planning . Mr . Wright replied
that he what , he '_ would like is something for storage - - small wood manu -
facturing .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner pointed out that under the ordinance one cannot go
back to a less restrictive use which is commercial " A " , " B " , or " C " .
Mr . Wright stated that he was not aware of that .
Mr . May stated that he did not feel that the short form EAF is
• appropriate .
MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner .
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board feels that further environmental
review is necessary requiring the long form EAF , therefore , said Board
hereby resolves that Mr . Wright present to the .- Planning Board a long form
Environmental Assessment Form .
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By way of discussion , Mr . Stanton commented that if it is the sense
of the group ( Planning Board ) that Mr . Wright may not be granted this
request , then filling out this form will just delay the process .
Mrs . Restaino stated that in this case , a short form is appropriate
since he is not proposing to build anything - - a long form would be
necessary in that case .
Mr . Aron pointed out , however , that Mr . Wright is not sure of what he
is going to do .
Mr . Wright stated that he is not sure what he is going to do ; he would
like to have a tenant in there .
Mr . Aron pointed out that the Planning Board is working for all the
people including Mr . Wright . Mr . Aron stated that once rezoning takes
place , then someone could purchase it and do most anything .
Mr . Wright stated that basically they have always gone to the Zoning
Board of Appeals and there have been no major changes - - except that
Varaxon has left . Mr . Wright stated that Mr . Fabbroni recommended that
perhaps it is time to put this parcel into what it is being used as . .
Mr . Aron asked Mrs . Restaino if she were satisfied with the short
form . Mrs . Restaino indicated that she was .
At this point , Mr . Aron and Mrs . Bronfenbrenner agreed to withdraw
their Motion asking for a long form EAF .
Mr . Aron stated .- that the discussion would now return to the short
form EAF and noted again that everything is marked in the negative . He
noted that at this point it appears to indicate a negative determination
with no effect on the environment .
MOTION by Mr . Bernard Stanton , seconded by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca , acting as
lead agent , accept and hereby does accept the Short Form Environmental
Assessment Form as presented by Mr . Robert I . Wright , dated September 18 ,
1979 , insofar as it applies to the proposal presented by Mr . Wright , and
makes a determination of negative impact requiring no further environmental
review .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , May , Schultz , Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , Baker .
Nay - Mazza
Abstain - Grigorov .
The Chair declared the MOTION duly carried .
Mr . Stanton commented that the Board is talking about a form
essentially before it takes the case .
A lengthy discussion followed on need for the proposed uses .
Mr . Mazza stated firmly that he continued to maintain that if re -
zoning takes place a new use can be environmentally impacting .
Mr . Aron asked for comments from the public .
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Mrs . Bev Schmidt , 177 West Haven Road , asked if this were a package
deal , or are there two different things here . She noted that it appears
to be one way on the house and one way on the land . It was noted that
Mrs . Schmidt was essentially correct in her understanding of the proposal .
Mr . Donald Riker , 1385 Mecklenburg Road , stated that this septic
field is going to be taking on four apartments , it has three now , and he
would question the usage of that now as being against the environment .
He stated that it is very questionable whether the field would stand it or
not - - one - third more usage .
Mr . Aron pointed out that that decision would come from the Tompkins
County Health Department when approval is sought .
Mrs . Pat Brazo , 1393 Mecklenburg Road , questioned why Mr . Wright wants
to make this commercial property when he has nothing in mind to do with it ,
unless there is something she did not understand .
Mr . Mazza stated that he thought that what Mr . Wright wants to do is
keep from going back all the time for a variance .
Mrs . Elizabeth Meiczinger , 1375 Mecklenburg Road , asked if Mr . Wright
puts the fourth apartment in is he going to clean up the yard . Mrs .
Meiczinger pointed out that Mr . Wright had another fire up there today .
Mr . Wright agreed that there was another fire today . Mrs . Meiczinger asked
again if Mr . Wright would clean up the yard , paint , fix the gutters , etc .
Mr . Wright stated that he planned . to clean up and make improvements if
allowed to make the change . Mr . Wright commented on the fire on December
• 31 , 1977 , and the fire today which was in the old milk house .
Mr . Aron read from the Zoning Ordinance , Section 73 , as follows :
Any building substantially destroyed by any cause shall be rebuilt
or demolished within one year . Any excavation or cellar holes remaining
after the demolition or destruction of a building from any cause shall be
covered over or filled by the owner within one year . "
Mr . Wright stated that he was not aware of that .
Mrs . Pat Brazo stated that she repeated what she said last time .
There being no further comments from the floor , the Chair declared
the Public Hearing closed at 8 : 40 p . m .
Mr . Aron stated that it was his opinion that he could not see that
the Board should recommend rezoning this commercially as there is at this
point no need for it .
MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mr . James Baker :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend and
hereby does recommend to the Town Board that the request for change in Zone
at 1319 Mecklenburg Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 28 - 1 - 26 . 6 ,
presently zoned R- 30 , an approximately 5 acre portion thereof being pro -
posed for rezoning to Commercial , be denied .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , May , Schultz , Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , Baker , Mazza , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
The Chair declared the MOTION to be carried unanimoulsy .
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Mr . Aron asked Mr . Wright if he were in a hardship situation and
does that apartment improve the building . Mr . Wright replied , referring to
• the second part of the question , that the proposed apartment does not
improve the outside ; it is internal . Mr . Aron . . stated _ , that . the house _
apparently needs a paint job .
Mr . Stanton commented that if the present owner made another apart -
ment and then sold it or then sold it plus the tenant house , or even if
he retained it , there would be five families on approximately 1 . 7 acres
in essentially an R - 30 zone .
Mrs . Grigorov stated that she thought :: that the Board would have to have
an awfully good reason for spot zoning such as this .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner commented that talking economics is very difficult ,
and talking about someone else ' s is even more difficult . She stated that
many people need additional income , but adding another apartment is not
necessarily the answer .
Mrs . Schultz queried that if it goes to multi - family , are there not
many more stringent requirements as to Building Code requirements . The
Board agreed that there certainly were . Mr . Aron led a discussion of
the matter of income , building requirements , costs , etc .
Mr . Mazza cited Section 78 . of the Ordinance as follows : " In making
recommendations to the Town Board and the Board of Appeals , the Planning
Board shall determine that : ( 1 ) There is a need for the proposed use in
. the proposed location . ( 2 ) The existing and probable future character of
the neighborhood in which the use is to be located will not be adversely
affected . ( 3 ) The proposed change is in accordance with a comprehensive
plan of development of the Town . "
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked Mr . Wright if he had made any check of
costs involved in bringing this up to the Multiple Residence Code , Mr .
Wright replied that he had and he knew that there were going to be some
expenses .
MOTION by Mr . Edward Mazza , seconded by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend and
hereby does recommend to the Town Board that the request of Mr . Robert I .
Wright for the rezoning of an area of his land at 1319 . Mecklenburg Road ,
240 ' x 300 ' approximately , a portion of Tax Parcel No . 6 - 28 - 1 - 26 . 6 , from
R- 30 to Multiple Residence , be denied , said Planning Board having deter -
mined that there is no need for the proposed use in the proposed location ;
that the existing and probable future character of the neighborhood in
which the use is to be located will be adversely affect ; that the proposed
change is not in accordance with a comprehensive plan of development of
the Town .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , May , Schultz , Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , Baker , Mazza , Grigorov .
• Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
PUBLIC HEARING : CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR
3 - LOT SUBDIVISION , 1698 SLATERVILLE ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL NO .
6 - 56 - 3 - 14 , CHARLES FOOTE .
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Chairman Aron declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted matter
duly opened at 9 : 00 p . m . , and presented for the record the Clerk ' s
• Affidavit of Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public Hearing in
Town Hall and the Ithaca Journal on October 15 , 1979 , and October 18 ,
1979 , respectively .
Mr . T . G . Miller and Mr . Charles A . Foote appeared before the Board
and proceeded to discuss the various documents that had been mailed to the
Board members , which included a Survey Map of the Robert Flinn Property ,
Slaterville Road , dated July 17 , 1961 , amended April 17 , 1969 , and amended
July 19 , 1979 to show Lots B & C ; a Plan for Proposed Driveway dated July
27 , 1979 ; a portion of Tax Map No . 56 indicating Lot " B " and Lot " C " and
a proposed future access to Foote ; and a short form EAF dated October 18 ,
1979 , prepared by Mr . T . G . Miller , Consulting Engineer , representing Mr .
Foote ,
Mr . Miller stated that the property originally purchased by Mr .
Foote on Slaterville Road contained roughly 44 acres and is partly in the
Town of Ithaca and partly in the Town of Dryden . Mr . Miller stated that
the Dryden parcel has been sold off , and that Mr . Foote also sold the
farm house lot , known as 1702 Slaterville Road .
Mr . Miller stated that Mr . Foote has subdivided two lots in the Town
of Ithaca as shown on the amended Survey Map , Lots " B " and " C " , 7 / 10 of an
acre and 8 / 10 of an acre each , and in the westerly part of the Town portion .
Mr . Miller noted that the area is zoned R- 15 and stated that the size
of the lots are : " B " 74 ' frontage by 208 ' at the rear , approximately
30 , 500 sq . ft . ; and " C " 104 ' frontage by 193 ' at the rear , approximately
34 , 800 sq . ft . Mr . Miller stated that public water is already available
and sewer is included in the proposed 1979 Sewer Extension . He noted again
the the two lots are entirely in the Town of Ithaca .
Mrs . Carolyn Grigorov stated that she has driven up to the site and
has looked at it .
Mr . Stanton commented with reference to access to the road , he notes
on the plan a driveway , and asked if the lot would ever be accessed by the
same road that is Mr . Foote ' s . Mr . Miller stated that there is one
entrance out on to the Slaterville Road and there would be joint usage .
He said there would be one driveway into Slaterville Road for the three
lots .
Mr . Aron asked if there were any questions from the public . There
appeared to be none .
Mr . Mazza wondered why the lots were proposed as they are .
Mrs . Raffensperger asked if she had heard correctly that one of the
lots does not meet the 100 ' frontage requirement for R- 15 . There followed
a discussion of the lot size .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked , in reference to Lot " C " , does the topo -
graphy give a problem with moving the lot line over 301
.
• Mr . Mazza stated that the house could be set back 100 ' , and added
that the ordinance is designed to allow for other lots than 100 ' by 1501
.
Mr . May stated that he would like to see 100 ' frontage . Mr . Aron
suggested that we discuss this with the Town Engineer and the Board .
Mr . Mazza asked if a delay would cause a hardship . Mr . Foote stated
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that he had someone interested .
Mrs . Restaino wondered if a 100 ' frontage would cause difficulty with
the driveway and force two driveways .
Mr . Miller pointed out that there was considerably more depth and
considerably more square footage than required .
Mr . Stanton noted that there is about 2 / 3 of an acre in each case .
Mr . Aron suggested that the Board consider the short form EAF as
presented , noting that all answers were in the negative .
MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mr . Bernard Stanton :
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board , acting as lead
agency in the review of the proposed 3 - lot Subdivision , 1698 Slaterville
Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 56 - 3 - 14 , Charles Foote , owner ,
approve and hereby does approve the Environmental Assessment Form as
completed ; and
FURTHER RESOLVED , that pursuant to the State Environmental Quality
Review Act , Parts 617 , this action is classified as Unlisted ; and
FURTHER RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board , has
determined from the Environmental Assessment Form and all pertinent
information that the above -mentioned action will not significantly
• impact the environment and , therefore , will not require further environ -
mental review .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , May , Schultz , Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , Baker , Mazza , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca grant and
hereby does grant Preliminary Subdivision Approval to a 3 - Lot Subdivision ,
1698 Slaterville Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 56 - 3 - 14 , as pro -
posed by Mr . Charles Foote , and as shown on Survey Map entitled " Robert
Flinn Property " , Slaterville Road , N . Y . S . Route 79 , dated July 17 , 1961 )
amended April 17 , 1969 , amended July 19 , 1979 , and stamped by Thomas G .
Miller , P . C . , L . S .
By way of discussion , Mr . Mazza stated that the only way he will
approve this is if the condition is added that the deeds conveyed with
these lots are subject to and granted for the rights of way over the
existing driveway .
This condition was accepted by both Mr . Aron and Mrs . Bronfenbrenner
. and it was agreed to add a condition to the Motion .
The Chair called for a vote on the following MOTION :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca grant and
hereby does grant Preliminary Subdivision Approval to a 3 - Lot Subdivision ,
1698 Slaterville Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 56 - 3 - 14 , as pro -
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posed by Mr . Charles Foote , and as shown on Survey Map entitled " Robert
Flinn Property " , Slaterville Road , N . Y . S . Route 79 , dated July 17 , 1961 ,
amended April 17 , 1969 , amended July 19 , 1979 , and stamped by Thomas G .
Miller , P . C . , L . S . , with the condition that the deeds conveyed with these
lots are subject to and granted for the rights of way over the existing
driveway .
Aye - Aron , Schultz , Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , Baker , Mazza , Grigorov .
Nay - May .
The MOTION was declared to be carried .
At this point , Mr . Miller brought up the matter of access to Mr .
Foote ' s backland . He stated that many years ago he was promised access
to his property using an access from Eastern Heights property . Mr . Miller
noted that now the Park is in . . there where Mr . Foote thought a road was .
Mr . Miller stated that Mr . Foote would like to have this matter cleared
up and access to be there as promised .
It was the consensus of the Planning Board that Mr . Miller should
set forth the matter of access to the Foote property in a letter to the
Board for consideration at the next meeting at which the Foote subdivision
is discussed . Mr . Miller agreed to do so .
ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING : CONSIDERATION OF FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR
5 - LOT SUBDIVISION ON EAST KING ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL N0 , 6 - 43 - 1 -
3 . 3 , A PORTION THEREOF . EVAN N . MONKEMEYER . ( Adjourned from October
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Mr . Monkemeyer now being present , the Chair declared the Adjourned
Public Hearing duly opened at 9 : 30 p . m .
Mr . Monkemeyer stated that he has decided to go with complete ser -
vices - - water and sewer . He stated that water has been developed and
the sewer he had just received from the engineer . Mr . Monkemeyer stated
that the problem is a time lag here . He said he hoped he can get the final
sewer plans in a timely manner .
Mr . Aron asked for comments from the public . There were none . There
were no comments from the Board .
Mr . Monkemeyer stated that the site plan remains the same except that
the services are public . He noted the hydrants and manhole . He said
the services will serve the frontage and will come back to serve the fifth
lot .
Mr . Monkemeyer said he did not see what will be accomplished by
continuing the Hearing at this point since he is pursuing Health Department
approval . Mr . Aron asked if any of the lots were sold . Mr . Monkemeyer said
that one had been sold and one is under contract . Mr . Monkemeyer stated
that he has a map to show a 20 ' drainage easement at the back .
MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mr . Bernard Stanton :
RESOLVED , that the Public Hearing in the matter of consideration of
final subdivision approval for 5 - lot subdivision on East King Road , Town of
Ithaca Tax . Parcel No . 6 - 43 - 1 - 3 . 3 , a portion thereof , as proposed by Evan
N . Monkemeyer , adjourned from October 2 , 1979 , be and hereby is further
adjourned until Tuesday , November 6 , 1979 , at 7 : 30 p . m .
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There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , May , Schultz , Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , Baker , Mazza , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
It was indicated that the restrictive covenants should be submitted
and shown on the plan .
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Mr . Bernard Stanton , seconded by Mrs . Carolyn Grigorov :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board Minutes of October 17 , 1978 , be
and hereby are approved as submitted .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , May , Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , Baker , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
Abstain - Schultz , Mazza .
The MOTION was declared to be carried .
REPORT OF THE COUNTY PLANNING BOARD REPRESENTATIVE , COUNCILWOMAN SHIRLEY
RAFFENSPERGER .
• Mrs . Raffensperger stated that she had a report from the County
Planning Board meeting of October 10 , 1979 , which was quite a long meeting
and from which there were many things of interest .
1 . Carpooling and Park - and - ride Plan :
Mrs . Raffensperger reported that several park - and - ride locations
have been suggested in the Town of Ithaca . They have not figured out
exactly where and there are some questions as to the locations and how the
Town feels . Municipalities will make arrangements for these locations and
will be responsible for insurance , liability coverage , etc . Maintenance
could be arranged between the municipality and the owner of the facility ;
if the facility is owned by the municipality , then no additional policy
for maintenance or insurance would be required .
2 . Industrial Site Development Strategy ( Satisfaction Survey ) :
Mrs . Raffensperger reported that the Industrial Satisfaction Survey
was presented by the Planning Staff . She noted that 51 industries were
surveyed . and pointed out that there are 7 , 000 jobs which are considered to
be in this industrial category . Mrs . Raffensperger stated that one of
the objectives of the survey was to determine what satisfies industry and
what does not .
Mrs . Raffensperger stated that " taxes " was the category that received
• the most negative comments , however , not in relation to local taxes - -
there were no complaints there - - but the negative comments had to do with
the corporate franchise tax and State income tax .
Mrs . Raffensperger noted that what the industrialists liked the most
were the recreational facilities and environmental quality .
Mrs . Raffensperger stated that second in the unfavorable comments
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was " transportation " - air , bus , road patterns , truck deliveries , etc .
3 . Multi - county Solid Waste Recovery Study :
Mrs . Raffensperger reported that the Planning Department is requesting
from Tompkins County $ 65 , 000 as its share of the preliminary design phase
out of a total of $ 210 , 000 .
Mrs . Raffensperger noted that the Phase 2 report has not yet .been
received from the Engineers . She reported that they are asking for funding
of Phase 3 .
Mrs . Raffensperger reported on the discussion of the problems involved
in this project , such as location - - both in the Town of Ithaca - - amount
of traffic , land - fill impact , air quality , cost . She stated that there is
a great deal of disagreement . Mrs . Raffensperger commented on concerns
about the mixing of two different sizes of trucks , also the local disposal
system of trucks . She noted that many people take their own pick - up trucks
and take their own garbage to the dumps around - - and so all that traffic
comes in too . Mrs . Raffensperger touched upon the landfill aspect of this
project . She commented that whatever % you have , you could burn , but what
does it mean if all of it goes into Tompkins County .
Mrs . Raffensperger commented on the high technology requirements of
such a project , noting the shredding aspect .
Mrs . Raffensperger mentioned a very unfavorable article on waste - fired
• plants which appeared in the New York Times on September 8 , 1979 . She said
that the report described the health hazards related to the Hempstead , L . I . ,
plant and highlighted some of the environmental problems arising from the
plant ' s operation .
Mrs . Raffensperger stated that one of the proposed sites is close to
the Cornell University heating plant and the other one is farther out in
the Orchards .
Mr . Aron stated that he had seen a mock - up of such a project when he
attended the Planning and Zoning Institute in Monticello . He described
the use of large furnaces burning on low oxygen ; the gases are picked up
from the top and then used for heating systems or factories .
Mrs . Raffensperger said she thought that the process proposed here is
somewhat different . She commented that you can burn garbage every day , but
you can only sell heat a part of the year . Mrs . Raffensperger added that
this would be a very expensive proposition - - $ 9 , 000 , 000 . local share if
all funding comes through .
Mrs . Raffensperger stated that the Phase 2 report may answer some of
these questions .
4 . Agricultural District No . 8 :
• Mrs . Raffensperger reported that Ag Dist . # 8 is in process ; public
hearing will be held . She stated that it contains approximately 38 , 000
acres and will make a total of 157 , 803 acres of land in Ag Districts or
50% of the County . and . from a '. planning point of . view it has . an , impact . She
commented that Ag Dist . #8 is not in the Town of Ithaca .
Planning Board - 12 - October 23 , 1979
5 . Route 13 :
Mrs . Raffensperger indicated that the big reason she waited during
a lengthy Town - Planning Board meeting was to report on the Route 13 improve -
ment . She stated that the County Planning Board will certainly be consi -
dering a resolution .
She stated that she relayed the Town Planning Board resolution to the
County Planning Board and also the Town Board resolution . She said there
is a resolution from the Environmental Management Council and one from the
Ithaca - Tompkins County Transportation Commission . Mrs . Raffensperger
reported that the County Planning Board resolution is on the table and will
probably come off the table and be voted on . She stated that the one that
is on the table would not be acceptable to the Town of Ithaca . She said
that the thing shen- . would most like to have from the Planning Board is
some kind of consensus about Route 13 , so that she can , be consistent .
Mrs . Raffensperger noted that the Transportation Commission Resolution
will probably be the way it will go and she read that resolution in its
entirety , as follows :
" WHEREAS , the existing Route 13 facility between the Airport area in
Tompkins County to Interstate 81 at Cortland cannot safely handle the
present or projected future traffic , and
WHEREAS , from a transportation point of view , it is highly desirable that
there be continued . formal planning for a new limited access corridor
throughout as much of the corridor as is possible and feasible , and
WHEREAS , the corridor generally known as the Tompkins County Department of
Planning ' B - 1 ' alternative has received good consensus in the county , and
does provide for a limited access corridor throughout most of its length
and is selected to accomplish good transportation objectives to insure the
most good with continuing due regard to the impact on adjacent landowners
and the natural and human environment , within the existing constraints ,
therefore be it
RESOLVED , that NYS DOT be asked to continue upgrading of the existing
Route 13 facility as the immediate interim solution to improve safety , and
RESOLVED , further , that the Ithaca - Tompkins County Transportation Commis -
sion does endorse the ' B - 11 , concept as a first phase two - lane , limited
access facility and does urge that the corridor be introduced into the
formal planning processes of NYS DOT , and
RESOLVED , further , that NYS DOT be asked to provide an updated study and
report on the impact of a complete reconstruction of the existing corridor
as a possible alternative to meet future long - range needs , and
RESOLVED , further , that alternative alignments within the corridor and
the interchanges be studied by NYS DOT as part of the planning process to
minimize impacts on farmlands , the natural and human environments , and
maximize transportation objectives , and
RESOLVED , further , that NYS DOT be asked to include as part of the future
studies a connector linking Route 13 in the vicinity of the Airport to
Route 366 in the vicinity of Cornell University . "
Mr . May stated that this connecting link is really the key to the
• whole thing .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner noted that coming from the airport there is only
one way to come - - goes right down Warren Road .
Mrs . Raffensperger replied , no , she thought the implication is a
new route - - and commented that that is an interesting point .
Planning Board - 13 - October 23 , 1.979
• Mrs . Raffensperger suggested that if this resolution is suggested
and this connector , or perhaps a new connector , is in the resolution , she
would like to see , simultaneously , planning , land acquisition , and funding ,
be in there .
Mr . Baker commented about going into Dryden and noted that the light
at the College ( TC3 ) is disastrous . He said that he was in a truck and it
is quite difficult in a truck - - different from being in a car . He
pointed out that there are so many trucks .
The Planning Board Resolution of October 2 , 1979 , was discussed and
its meaning as it relates to B - 1 .
Mr . Aron thanked Mrs . Raffensperger for this excellent discussion and
Mrs . Raffensperger expressed her thanks to the Planning Board ,
APPLICATION FOR SIGN PERMIT - PALEONTOLOGICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTION .
Mr . May stated that the sign permit application as presented by the
Paleontological Research Institution was not valid , it appearing to be
a 50 sq . ft . sign with payment in terms of a 25 sq . ft . sign .
MOTION by Mr : Henry Aron , seconded by Mr . James Baker :
RESOLVED , that the matter of consideration of application for sign
permit requested by the Paleontological Research Institution be tabled
and referred back to the applicant for correction .
• There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Aron , May , Schultz , Grigorov , Bronfenbrenner , Baker , Mazza .
Nay - None .
Abstain - Stanton .
The MOTION was declared to be carried .
ADJOURNMENT
Upon Motion , the October 23 , 1979 , meeting of the Town of Ithaca
Planning Board was declared to be duly adjourned at 10 : 15 p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
Nancy M . Fuller ,
Secretary .
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
TUESDAY , OCTOBER 23 , 1979
A G E N D A
7 : 30 P . M . ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING : Monkemeyer Matter , 5 - lot
Subdivision , East King Road .
7 : 45 P . M . ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING : Wright Matter , rezoning
from R- 30 to Multiple Residence and Commercial ,
1319 Mecklenburg Road .
8 : 00 P . Me PUBLIC HEARING : Consideration of Preliminary Sub .
division Approval for 3 - lot Subdivision , 1698 Slaterville
Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No . 6 - 56 - 3 - 1. 4 . Charles
Foote .
8 : 20 P . 1,1 . Report of the County Planning Board Representative ,
Councilwoman Shirley Raffensperger . .
8 : 35 P . M . Approval of Minutes - October 17 , 1978 .
8 : 40 P . M . Work Session
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9 : 00 P . M * ADJOURNMENT
Nancy M . Fuller
Secretary
NOTE : IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD CANNOT ATTEND , PLEASE
NOTIFY ME IMMEDIATELY AT 273 - 1747 .
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AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING
TOWN CLERK ' S OFFICE
• ITHACA , N . Y.
I , Edward L . Bergen being duly
sworn , say that I am the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca, Tompkins
County , New York , that the following notice has been duly posted on
the sign board of the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca and that the
. notice has been duly published in the local newspaper : ( Ithaca Journal )
Notice of Public Hearings to be held by the Planning Board of the Town
of Ithaca on Tuesday , October 23 , -. 1979 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca
Street , ( second floor ) , Ithaca , N . Y . , commencing at 7 : 30 P . M . , as per
attached .
Location of sign board used for posting :
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Date of Posting : October 15 , 1979
Date of Publication : October 18 , 1979
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Edw d ' Bergen
Town 'Clerk
Town of - Ithaca
State of New York
County of Tompkins SS .
Town of Ithaca
Sworn to before me this — — day of 1.9 �Lo
NOTARY
CONSTANCE E. ALLEN
Notary Public, State of New . Yorh
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Thurf3day, October 18, 1979 ITHACA JOURNAL 19
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the Ithaca Journal, all copy dow that is capable of being
must be in by deadlines listed ) opened . All windows, locks,
MONDAY deadline : frames, and hardware must be of
THURSDAY, 3 P.M. sound construction and in ,proper
TUESDAY deadline : working order .
FRIDAY, 4 P,M. Section 2. This ordinance shall take .
WEDNESDAY deadline : effect immediately and . in ac-
NOON MONDAY cordance with law upon publica-
THURSDAY deadline : tion of a notice as provided in y3. 11
NOON TUESDAY ( B ) of the Ithaca City Charter.
FRIDAY deadline : By Authority of the Common Coun-
NOON WEDNESDAY cil
SATURDAY deadline : of the City of Ithaca, New York ,
THURSDAY, 10 A,M. Joseph A. Rundle '
City Clerk ,
SET SOLID: ( ads without October 18, 1979
borders or artwork ) — 2 p.m. TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING
for next day publication. BOARD NOTICE OF PUBLIC
( SPECIAL SECTIONS L HEARINGS, TUESDAY, OCTO-
HOLIDAYS may change BER 23, 1979
deadlines, Please call our of. By direction of the Chairman of
fice for further information, the Planning Board, NOTICE IS
272.9300. OPEN : Monday- HEREBY GIVEN that Public
Friday, 8 a. m.-S p.m. Hearings will be held by the Plan-
ning Board of the Town of I thaca on
Tuesday, October 23, 1979t in Town
Hall, 126 East Seneca Street ( sec-
Legal Notices and floor ), Ithaca, N . Y ., at the
following times and on the follow-
in matters :
7; 30 P.M; Adjourned Public Hear-
ing MonkemeyerMatter, 5-lot Sub-
division, East King Road.
7 : 45 P.M. Adjourned Public Hear-
ing Wright Matter, rezoning from .
R-30 to Multiple Residence and
Commercial, 1319 Mecklenburg
Road .
8 : 00 P.M. Consideration of Pre-ai
liminary Subdivision Approval for
3-lot Subdivision, 1698 Slaterville
Road, Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel
No. 6-56.3-14. Charles Foote.
Said Planning Board will at said
times and said place hear all per-
sons in support of such matters or
objections thereto. Persons mayl
appear by agent
Edward L. Bergen
Town Clerk .
Town of Ithaca
Dated October 15, 1979
October 18, 1979
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS
TUESDAY , OCTOBER 23 , 1979
By direction of the Chairman of the Planning Board , NOTICE IS
HEREBY GIVEN that. Public Hearings will be held by the Planning Board
of the Town of Ithaca on Tuesday , October 23 , 1979 , in Town Hall ,
126 East Seneca Street ( second floor ) , Ithaca , N . Y . , at the following
times and on the following matters :
7 : 30 P . M . Adjourned Public Hearing Monkemeyer Matter , 5 - lot Subdivision ,
East King Road ,
7 : 45 P . M . Adjourned Public Hearing Wright Matter , rezoning from R- 30
to Multiple Residence and Commercial , 1319 Mecklenburg Road .
8 : 00 P . M . Consideration of Preliminary Subdivision Approval for 3 - lot
Subdivision , 1698 Slaterville Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel
No . 6 - 56 - 3 - 14 . Charles Foote ,
Said Planning Board will at said times and said place hear all
persons in support of such matters or objections thereto . Persons may
appear by agent or in person .
Edward L . Bergen
Town Clerk
Town of Ithaca
Dated : October 15 , 1979
Publish : October 18 , 1979
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SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
AhkNSTRUCTIONS :
( a ) In order to answer the questions in this short EAF it is assumed that the preparer
will use currently available information concerning the project and the likely impacts of
the action . . It is not expected that additional studies , research or other investigations
will be undertaken .
( b ) If any question has been answered Yes the project may be significant and a
completed Environmental Assessment Form is necessary .
( c ) If all questions have been answered No it is likely that this project is not
significant .
'( d ) Environmental Assessment
1 . Will project result in a large physical change to
the project site or physically alter more than
10 acres of land ? Yes No
2 . Will there be a major change to any unique or
unusual land form found on the site ? Yes No
3 . Will project alter or have a large effect on an
existing body of water ? Yes No .
4 . Will project have a potentially large impact on
groundwater quality ? Yes No
5 . Will project significantly affect drainage flow on
adjacent sites ? YesX No
6 . Will project affect any threatened or endangered
plant or animal species ? Yes No
7 . Will project result in a major adverse effect on
air quality ? Yes No
8 . Will project have a major effect on visual
character of the community or scenic views or
vistas known to be important to the community ? Yes No
g . Will project adversely impact any site or
structure of historic , pre - historic , or paleonto
logical importance or any site designated as a
critical environmental area by a local agency ? Yes ,� No
10 . Will project have a major effect on existing or
future recreational opportunities ? Yes -No
11 . Will project result in major traffic problems or
cause a major effect to existing transportation
systems ? Yes No
12 . Will project regularly cause objectionable odors ,
noise , glare , vibration , or electrical disturbance
as a result of the project ' s operation ? Yes No
Shdrt Environmental Assessment Form Page Two
13 . Will project have any impact on public health
or safety ? Yes No
14 . Will project affect the existing community by
directly causing a growth in permanent population
of more than 5 per cent over a one - year period or
have a major negative effect on the character of
the community or neighborhood ? Yes No
15 . Is there public controversy concerning the
project ? Yes No
PREPARER ' S SIGNATURE . 9, �✓ TITLE .
REPRESENTING . DATE .
Form adopted by Town Board Resolution
April 9 , 19790
TOWN OF I THACA
SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
INSTRUCTIONS .
r ( a ) In order to answer the questions in this short EAF it is assumed that the preparer
will use currently available information concerning the project and the likely impacts of
the action . It is not expected that additional studies , research or other investigations
will be undertaken .
( b ) If any question has been answered Yes the project may be significant and a
completed Environmental Assessment Form is necessary .
( c ) . If all questions have been answered No it Is •likely that this project is not
significant .
( d ) Environmental Assessment
1 . Will project result in a large physical change to
the project site or physically alter more than
10 acres of land ? Yes No
2 . Will there be a major change to any unique or
unusual land form found on the site ? Yes l� No
3 . Will project alter or have a large effect on an
existing body of water ? Yes No
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4 . Will project have a potentially large impact on
groundwater quality ? 4 Yes No
5 . Will project significantly affect drainage flow on
adjacent sites ? Yes c/ No
6 . Will project affect any threatened or endangered
plant or animal species ? Yes Pe"INo
7 . Will project result in a ' major adverse effect on ` .
air quality ? Yes �No
8 . Will project have a major effect on visual
character of the community or scenic views or
vistas known to be important to the community ? Yes `�No
9 . Will project adversely impact any site or
structure of historic , pre - hlstoric , or paleonto-
logical • importance or any site designated as .a /
critical environmental area ' by a local agency? Yes v No
10 . Will project have a major effect on existing or
future recreational opportunities ? Yes No
ll . Will project result . in major - traffic problems or
cause a major effect to existing transportation
systems ? Yes No
12 . Will. project regularly cause objectionable odors ,
noise , glare ,! vibration', or electrical disturbance
as a result of the project ' s operation ? Yes 40001 No
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13 . Will project have any impact on public health
or safety ? Yes . &**�No
14 . . Will project affect the existing community by
directly - causing a growth in permanent population '
of . more ' than 5 per cent over a one - year period or
have a major negative effect on the character of
the . community or neighborhood ? Yes No
15 . Is there public controversy concerning the
project ? Yes �No
PREPARER ' S SIGNATURE : TITLE :
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NEXT MEETING : WEDNESDAY , NOVEMBER 14 , 1979 , COUNTY PLANNING
of 7 : 30 P . M .
TOMPKINS COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING
Frank R . Liguori PE Commissioner of Planning E_
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COUNTY PLANNING BOARD MEETING
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OCTOBER 10 , 1979 7 : 30 P . M .
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The meeting was called to order by the Chairman , Gould Colman , a quorum being
present . Guests were introduced . An attendance record is attached , h
The following corrections were made in the September 12 summary by Eleanor Bayley . s
Page 3 , second line , should read , " University traffic as it affects Freeville
Village . " Also on the same page , sixth line from bottom , should read , "K . Marquis
said the Village of Freeville Board will be holding another meeting on Rt . 13 . . "
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Privilege of the Floor
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Millard Brink expressed concern that funds the City of Ithaca has expended in ,.
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` planting trees along Rt . 13 at the southerly entrance of the city are being wasted
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Shirley Raffensperger reported the Town of Ithaca has prepared a draft revised
zoning ordinance which the Town Board will soon be considering . 1
Jim Warren asked if an township will be responding to the
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settlement . He suggested the Planning Board might want to consider the implications
of transferring Connecticut Hill to federal control .
In relation to discussions on the improvement of Rt . 13 Gould Colman said that £-�
since the Transportation Commission and the Economic Advisory Board have not -gent
i' their recommendations to the County Planning Board , it would be well to leave the
Rt . 13 resolution tabeled until next month . He read that resolution and observed
that during the last meeting of the Board, D . Enichen reported that a special EMC
Committee was not convinced a new corridor is needed and that if it is needed ,
an alignment other than B- 1 is preferable . Colman read the EMC resolution and asked
whether the two resolutions- - the EMC ' s and the Planning Board ' s could be reconciled .
Liguori observed that by using the word " perceived " the EMC did not grant that there `;
is a safety and traffic congestion problem . He also stated that at no time did the
County Planning Department advocate the construction of a four- lane limited access '
i highway . Rather it had consistently suggested a two - lane construction with a
four- lane right -of- way for possible future use .
.Robert Brown asked if farmers could use the right - of-way . Liguori said it could
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be done with special arrangement .
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Liguori said that since it is not possible to have a count, y -wide . referendum on
the Rt . 13 issue , the only logical way to determine whether or not a consensus
exists is by the Motions of municipal and other bodies .
Viola Miller said that she had left the last Board meeting , as well as the
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Transportation Commission meeting , feeling that we are lingering on taking action
on something which the community has needed for a long time . She said that the
Lansing community has been impacted the most and this impact had to some degree
• precipitated the formation of the Village .
She reminded the Board that the Town of Lansing had accepted the original Rt . 13
project from the Department of Transportation on the assurance that Rt . 13 would
connect to Rt. 81 and that there was a real need , at the time , to do so . As for
the most recent happenings , she reported that both the Planning Board and Town
Board of the Town of Lansing had approved the B- 1 concept . Referring to the EMC
Rt . 13 report she said there was nothing in the report addressing traffic from
outside of Tompkins County . What about trucks , busses , and other thru traffic which
have been using our highways and aggravating our traffic situation ? A four- lane
road concept is a definite need from the Airport to where it rejoins the existing
facility , somewhere past TC- 3 ; it would improve access and help our economic
well-being . She said the EMC Rt . 13 report has not spoken about the future . She
observed that the EMC was becoming activist rather than performing its proper role
by selling to other municipalities and the Farm Bureau its point-of -view . She
said the county needs help to strengthen its transportation network and improve
the local economy . As to the Octopus design , she pointed out that the Department
of Transportation had not designed it , but had in fact dissaproved it ; neverthe-
less , it was constructed . with the approval of the City of Ithaca .
R . Booth replied that , because of the different characteristics and interests of
the members on the EMC , it could not be said that it is an activist group with
a single point of view . The report prepared by the EMC took the entire summer and
no one else had produced a comparable report . Furthermore , the report was pre -
pared by volunteers . He said that because of the energy crisis mass transportation
would become more of a necessity . He also said that consensus cannot be defined as
limited to elected officials . He also commented on the word "perceived " , saying that
by its usage EMC was reacting to public opinion rather than passing judgment about
the existance of a problem .
George Totman said that a few months ago the County Planning Board had asked its
Chairman to seek from the County Board of Representatives clarification of the
relationship between these Boards and their responsibilities . He wanted to know
what the outcome was . The Chairman said discussions are continuing .
Shirley Raffensperger reported that in its consideration of the B - 1 alternative ,
+± the Town of Ithaca Planning Board and Town Board had discussed adverse traffic
" impact to the northeast . She requested that the Board delay action on the Rt . 13
resolution until such matters can be clarified .
Leonard Miscall said that the EMC was not created by the Board of Representatives ,
it was created by the State . He said the EMCs comment on the Rt . 13 alignment
was beyond its scope and it was making decisions in a professional field . He
pointed out that the responsibility lay with the Tompkins County Department of
Planning . However , he said that EMC still could make a critical contribution .
Paul Komar , representing the Chamber of Commerce said that there is a need for
improved access so that commerce can continue to improve in Tompkins County , not
only for businesses already located in the area , but for those which might desire
• to establish here . He also said that the Chamber of Commerce has resolved to support
the B- 1 alternative .
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Eleanor Bayley said there seems to be a feeling that all of this is going to be
done very soon which actually will not be the case , so what about the existing
conditions and accidents on the existing facility ? Shouldn ' t this be improved ?
• Liguori pointed out the Department of Planning has consistently supported the
upgrading of the existing facility as an interim measure . He said that in 1973
the Department of Transportation charged our community with the responsibility of
selecting a new corridor . They would not consider a new corridor project them-
selves . If no new corridor is designated , the upgrading of the existing facility
will be the long- range solution . This is where the problem lies . In fact ,
Liguori pointed out , the first resolution by the Rt . 13 Task Force was for
upgrading the existing facility as an interim measure . He strongly urged that.
Tompkins County deserves something better than an upgraded existing Rt . 13
for the long- range .
Paul Komar said that two people were killed in front of NYSEG recently . He asked
if it were possible to project how many people would be killed if this facility
was to be keptas our long- range solution . He moved that such a projection be
done to indicate what saving of lives can be made . This was seconded by Gust
Freeman . It was carried by a 12 yes votes and 2 abstaining . .
Don Enichen pointed out that the word "perceived " was not intended to mean that
the EMC believes there is no problem . He said that upgrading of the existing
facility would in many portions , result in a four- lane facility . For instance ,
from Warren Road to NYSEG would be a four - lane facility . As to the matter of
consensus , Enichen said that Forest Home had joined the group opposing B - 1 , as did
many farmers who may be expected to take the matter to court . He said that
' consensus was about fifty- fifty if George Jr . Republic were deleted from the group .
He further pointed out that traffic is expected to increase , but not enough to
need a four- lane facility . As to a connector between Rt . 13 and Rt . 366 , he said
DOT would not build it and that it would be . a drawback of the B - 1 project . As
to staff support , Enichen said that the EMC had one-half person and that not much
time was spent on the Rt . 13 study by the staff . Typing of the report was done
elsewhere . He said that given time and economic constraints , the county could not
plan for a thirty-million dollar project and face an uncertain future of greatly
increased costs .
Liguori said that the Town of Ithaca could still be opposed to the improvement
of the existing facility if it did not provide a connection to Rt . 366 as well as
+ ' the Ellis Hollow/ East Hill Plaza area .
Planning Department Reports
Carpooling and Park- and - ride Plan
Handouts were distributed on gasoline conservation programs : the - Ridesharing
Program and the Park- and - ride Facilities Program . Missirian gave a brief pre-
sentation on these programs and particularly highlighted the second one , the
park- and - ride facilities program . He showed a map which delineated the distri-
bution of the various population concentrations throughout the county and their
commutation characteristics . He further described a map showing suggested
locations for park- and- ride sites : about 16 sites in Tompkins County outside of
the urban area but located at population concentrations , and five sites located
around the Ithaca Urban Area . He said that suggestions were madefor potential sites
in the surrounding counties such as the Cortland and Richford area to the east ,
the Candor and Spencer area to the south , the Alpine and Horseheads area to the
southwest , and the Mecklenburg area to the west . A copy of the map showing
park- and- ride sites is attached .
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Missirian showed a mark -up model of a sign with a park -and -ride logo . He said
that the county is considering providing signs . to local municipalities for
' erection at sites which are agreed upon by each community and the county . Missirian
also presented a draft memorandum to local municipal officials from James Mason ,
Chairman , Ithaca- Tompkins County Transportation Commission . This . memorandum
addresses the two programs which directly address the energy crisis through . the con -
servation of gasoline , the *ridesharing program , and the park -and -ride facilities
program . Also with the package Missirian explained matters relating to insurance
of park -and-ride facilities , liability coverage , and other considerations .
Robert Brown asked about the maintenance of these park -and -ride sites . .
Liguori said maintenance could be arranged between the municipality and the owner
of the facility . If the facility is owned by the municipality , then no additional
policy for maintenance or insurance would be required .
Multi - county Solid Waste Recovery Study
Liguori reported that the feasibility plan for incineration refuse from four coun -
ties to provide heat for Cornell is completed . He pointed out that environmental
impacts would be mitigated . The facility would be located near the Cornell University
heating plant and the heat sold to Cornell University . He said the plan will now be
submitted to the four counties for collective approval . He said the final report
will be published in three weeks or so . He said the report has a rather complete
section on environmental assessment . It points out some potential environmental
impacts most of which could be mitigated . In terms of cost to the participating
counties , he said that initial bottom - line costs will be about equal to present
costs , but savings are expected in the future . The overall cost of the final report ,
he said , would be approximately $ 210 , 000 .
James Warren asked if the plan was contingent upon Cornell University ' s needs . He
said , What if Cornell University decides not to use it ? And if we were to meet
Cornell University ' s schedule , how could we speed up the activity ?
Liguori said that Cornell University had in fact given a deadline for the study and
its recommendations . He further pointed out that if none of the counties continue
with this package there is still a possible fallback , but not a very attractive one .
Cornell ' s participation is absolutely necessary for the project .
Gould Colman pointed out a report in the New York Times , September 8 , 1979 , on the
Hempstead , Long Island plant describing health hazards in the waste - fired plant .
The report highlights some of the environmental problems arising from the plant ' s
operation .
Industrial Site Development Strategy (Satisfaction Survey )
Liguori reported that the Economic Advisory Board had been working on a draft
identifying industrial sites throughout the county for development purposes . He
said the results of the surveys were presented to the Economic Advisory Board , a
summary of which was presented for the Board ' s information .
Joe Gentili reviewed the results of the Industrial Site and Industrial Satisfaction
surveys .
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He said there are five major components of the historically - stable Tompkins County
economy , namely : ( 1 ) industry , ( 2 ) commerce , ( 3 ) higher education , ( 4 ) agriculture ,
and ( 5 ) government . The survey on Industrial Sites was begun one year ago with the
municipal Chief Executive Officers ' Attitude Survey . The Attitude Survey revealed
that all of the municipalities except the . Village of Trumansburg and Cayuga Heights ,
and the Town of Enfield would welcome light industry . Many of the municipalities
have undeveloped industrial zoned land . A summary of the presentation is attached .
Southern Tier East Regional Planning Board and Appalachia 1980 Investment Plan
Carl Cox offered to prepare a statement describing the plan which could be distri -
buted to the Board members with the minutes . The offer was accepted with thanks .
Agricultural . District No . 8
Gary Evans gave a presentation on the formation of the Agricultural District No . 8 .
A map of existing Ag Districts No . 1 - 7 and proposed No . 8 is attached .
Liguori requested that a Committee be formed from the Board to help prepare a
recommendation relating to the proposed District No . 8 . The Chairman will be
appointing a Committee for this purpose .
The time being late , the rest of the agenda was tabled for the next meeting .
The meeting was adjourned .
NEXT MEETING
The next meeting of the Board will be on Wednesday , November 14 , 19795 7 : 30 p . m .
at the County Planning Office .
Respectfully submitted ,
Harry A . Missirian
Acting Secretary
SURVEY RESULTS
NOTE : The following is a distribution of first preference for preferred dates
for County Planning Board meetings . A total of 23 members responded
to the survey .
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lst week of month
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SUMMARY OF THE INDUSTRIAL SATISFACTION SURVEY .
FINDINGS FACT SHEET
• 1 . Number of industries . contacted : 51
2 . Number of industries surveyed : 44
3 . a . Number of jobs gained , 1974-79 : 680
b . . Number of jobs lost , 1974- 79 : 732
C . Net loss : 52
4 . . Amount of floor space added , 1974- 79 : 552 , 124 square feet
+ - 5 . Increase of floor space forecast , 1979 - 84 : 76 , 500 square feet
6 . Industries lost , 1974 - 79 : 1
Agri- Bio ( Babcock ) , 1979
. 7 . Industries gained , 1974- 79 : 6
Data Machines International
Direct Page Communications
Ithaca Theater Lighting
Lindemann Laboratories
Precision Filters
Varaxon
8 . Satisfaction Responses : ( + ) represents satisfaction ; ( - } dissatisfaction
a : Access - egress : + 8 , - 8 1 . Env . Quality : +34 , -none
b . Parking : + 12 , - 8 m . Recreation : +40 , -none
c . Drainage : +11 , - 3 n . Education : +31 , -1
d . Neighborhood relations : +17 , - 2 0 . Entertainment : + 28 , -2
e . Outside transp . PUB : + 33 - 15 P . Housing : + 8 , - 16 ( .,ee-at x .
f . Outside transp . PVT : + 7 , - 12 q . Health care : +16 , - 4
g . Roads : + 7 , -12 r . Training : +14 , -10
h . Water/sewer :. + 8 , - 7 s . Crafts : +18 , -none
i . Energy : +9 , - 3 t . Inside transp . PUB : + 55 -14
j . Taxes : + 1 , - 23 u . Inside transp . PVT : +45 -11
k . Finances : + 7 , -4 v . Arts : +14 , - 2
9 . Comments :
a . Number of jobs lost includes a loss of 475 jobs by NCR .
b . "Outside " transportation refers to origins or destinations outside
Tompkins County .
c . " Inside " transportation refers to origins and destinations inside
Tompkins County .
d . Level of employee interviewed was chief executive officer - or his
designated representative .
INDUSTRIAL SATISFACTION SURVEY
RESPONDENTS ` REMZIENDATIONS
The following recommendations were offered spontaneously and voluntarily by
interviewees . They have been categorized and are listed without attribution .
The number preceding an item is the number of individuals who offered essen -
tially the same recommendation .
Education K- 12
1 Improve " survival - skills " training , e . g . , personal finance
1 Operate school system in business -like manner
Technical Training
3 Increase training of toolmakers
2 Increase training of general mechanics
3 Increase training of welders
4 Increase training of electronic technicians
4 Increase training of draftsmen and general technicians
• 1 Increase training, of binders , printers , and pressmen
Government - Taxes
1 Remove sales tax from ut =ility bills
1 Reduce corporate franchise tax
Health Care
1 Improve facilities and services East County
Housing
5 Improve supply of moderately priced housing
1 Improve supply of mortgage money
Industry
2 Foster industrial development (more industry )
1 Appoint liaison between government and industry
2 Improve lending policy of banks
�. Solid Waste
1 Permit private sorting at landfills
1 Improve glass recycling system
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RESPONDENTS ' RECO,u•1ENDATIONS
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Transportation
Air
12 Improve passenger service ( including number of destinations )
3 Improve air freight
2 Establish Ithaca to Syracuse shuttle
Public Transit (Bus ) .
9 Provide county-wide service
Railroads
5 Restore general service and establish public station and siding at Ithaca
1 Provide scale at Ithaca for gondola car weighing
Roads
1 Build "Beltway "
9 Improve Rt . 13
2 Improve access from East County to Hospital
1 Improve Rts . 34 / 96
2 Improve Rt . 96B
1 Improve Rt . 79
1 Improve maintenance of Lansing secondary roads
Traffic
1 Improve lane marking , Rt . 96
1 Reduce truck traffic , Rt . 79
- 2 Rostore two -lane streets downtown
Urban. Design
I Develop Civic Center on Commons
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To : THE TOMPKINS COUNTY PLANNING BOARD - - -
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The 1979 report on the " SOUTHERN TIER EAST REGIONAL PLANNING
for September 30 , 1978 to October 1 , 1979 . DEVELOPMENT BOARD " : r :
Multi - County planning in the Southern Tier East Region of
New York State was performed by limited functional regional
boards to mid 1975 . As programs and functions began to overlap ,
it became evident that a functionally integrated board would promote
efficiency , lessen confusion , and provide more cost/effective
operations . On July 19 1975 , STERPDB ( Southern Tier - East Regional
Planning Development Board ) was j-. me and assumed the responsi4P
bilities of the previous Regional Boards . During its three and
half years of operation , the consolidated STERPDB has made solid
progress towards effectively involving our eight - county region in
a wide range of. Planning/Development activities . . . .
The professional staff for STERPDB operates under a Director ,
his Depiuty , nine Planners , a Manager , several Analysts , and
secretaries plus typists - - a total of twenty - two people .
STERPDB is composed of five voting members from each of the
eight counties in our region . . " " Broome - Chenango - Cortland -Delaware -
Otsego - Schoharie -Tioga -Tompkins . . Each county has representatives
on the numerous committies functioning within the Board .
ARC ( Appalachian Regional Commission ) - A Federal Funding Unit !
FUNDING is the name of the Game . . and the objectives of STERPDB are :
to stress the elimination of " Duplication , Overlap and Conflicts
of all programs " within the region . . Funded projects within : the
region are monitored periodically by committee and staff members .
The regional Project Package co ers programs within the region
at a total investment of s 2 , 920 , 934 this figure is35 • 2 % of
available New York State ARC funding . . .
The total operating cost : ( all salaries , rental , maintenance , .
contracts for printing , computer use , and the numerous hitt -gritty
items necessary to maintain a smoothly functioning staffa $ 501 165 . 27
Each county shares $ 2 , 000 + as a share toward the total 0 C . . o
respectfull submitted ,
October 29 , 1979 . Carl R . Cox-
Town of Ulysses
Village of Trumansburg
T . C . at - large rep . to STERPDB
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TOTAL ACREAGE o OF COUNTY
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OCTOBER 1979
a ' RESOLUTION ROUTE 13 IMPROVEMENT PLAT
WHEREAS , the existing Route 13 facility between the Airport area in
. Tompkins County to Interstate 81 at Cortland cannot safely handle the present
or projected future traffic , and
WHEREAS , from a transportation point of view , it is highly desirable
that there be continued formal planning for anew limited access corridor
throughout as much of the corridor as is possible and feasible , and
WHEREAS , the . corridor generally known as the Tompkins County Department
of Planning 11B-1 " alternative has received good consensus in the county , and -
. does provide for a limited access corridor throughout most of its length and
is selected to accomplish good transportation objectives to insure the _ most
good with continuing due . regard to the impact on adjacent, landowners ,and the
" natural and human environment , within the existing constraints , therefore be it
RESOLVED , that NYS DOT be asked . to continue upgrading of the existing Route
13 facility as the immediate interim solution to improve safety , and
RESOLVED , further , that the Ithaca - Tompkins County Transportation Commis
sion does endorse the " B - 1 " concept as a first phase two - lane , limited access
facility and does urge ' that the corridor be introduced into the formal. planning
processes of NYS DOT , and
RESOLVED , further , that NYS DOT be asked to provide an updated study and
report on the impact of a complete reconstruction of the existing corridor as a
possible alternative to meet future long -range needs , and
RESOLVED , further , that alternative alignments within the corridor and the
interchanges be studied by NYS DOT as part of the planning .process to minimize
impacts on farmlands , the natural and human environments , and maximize transpor-
tation objectives , and
RESOLVED , further , that NYS DOT be asked to include as part - of the future
studies a connector linking Route 13 in the vicinity of the . Airport to Route 366-
in the vicinity of Cornell University .
Adopted October 17 , 1979
• By the Ithaca - Tompkins County Transportation Commission