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Home My WebLink AboutPB Minutes 1978-05-16 TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD MAY 16 , 1978 A regular meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board was held on :10' Tuesday , May 16 , 1978 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street ( second floor ) , Ithaca , New York , at 7 : 00 p . m . PRESENT : Chairman Liese Bronfenbrenner , Bernard Stanton , Montgomery May , Carolyn Grigorov ., James Baker , Henry Aron . ( Secretary ' s Note : Mr . Stanton had to leave the meeting at 7 : 40 p . m . ; Mr . Aron arrived at 7 : 40 p . m . ) Lawrence Fabbroni ( Town Engineer ) , Barbara Restaino ( Planner ) . ALSO PRESENT : Mr . and Mrs . Gene Likens , Mr . and Mrs . Anthony Leonardo , Mr . Richard Leonardo , Dr . Frederick Mitchell , Mr . Howard Schlieder , Joel Meltzer ( WTKO ) . Chairman Bronfenbrenner called the meeting to order at 7 : 06 p . m . PUBLIC HEARING : TAX PARCEL 6 - 66 - 3 - 3 , A PORTION THEREOF , 127 WARREN ROAD , PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION HEARING TO SUBDIVIDE A 2 . 47 ACRE PARCEL INTO TWO LOTS , L . FABBRONI . Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted matter duly opened at 7 : 06 p . m . and presented for the record the Clerk ' s Affidavit of Posting and Publication - of - the Notice - of Public Hearings in Town Hall and the Ithaca Journal on May 9 , 1978 , and May 11 , 1978 , respec - tively , as required . Mr . Fabbroni presented his proposal for the subdivision into two lots of a portion of Parcel No . 6 - 66 - 3 - 3 , 127 Warren Road , together with a plan therefor dated May 15 , 1978 , and titled 112 - Lot Subdivision , 127 Warren Road , Town - -of Ithaca " , drawn by L . Fabbroni , NYSPE # 5.1734 , with - Survey Information taken from Map prepared by T .- G . - Miller ,- - date : - 9 / 23 / 770 Mr . - Fabbroni stated that --he - is in the process -of-- purchasing -property -- from- -John Hertel measuring approximately 387 '-- along - Warren---Road .and --.back =— approximately 295 ' : - He noted that this - is the - original- farmstead for - the - - whole-.Hertel farm . Mr . Fabbroni -noted that there is a large barn- - and chicken coop to the rear on the same large parcel . Mr . Fabbroni is pro - posing to split off one lot to the south of the house and to the north of properties of Tyler , Henderson and Likens . The proposed lot would be 100 ' wide and approximately 270 ' deep from the roadway , which is almost twice the size of the standard lot allowed . Mr . Fabbroni stated that the proposed access to the lot would be through a purchase agreement that he has with the prospective buyer and would also be by the existing access driveway to the house . Mr . Fabbroni stated that he will live in the house next -door to the proposed lot . Mr . - Fabbroni said that his plan will leave the - same number of driveways that now - existing on -Warren Road , i . e . , the flat part of Warren Road : Mr . Fabbroni noted that he is purchasing two and one - half acres of land with the house . He stated that a water line exists past the house and the sewer line is the one to be constructed as far north as the Moakley ' House . He said that the drainage wili,. remain exactly as it is . Mr . Fabbroni stated that Mr . Hertel has torn down most of the barn and so it is a trade - off between what was there and what will be there with the new house to be built . Mr . Fabbroni pointed out that the proposed owner plans to leave the grape vines and the garden that are now there and also plans to build the house behind the grape vines . Mr . Fabbroni stated that the purchase agreement specifies that the grape vines will not be removed . Mr . Fabbroni pointed out that Mr . Hertel could sell his land to him ( Fabbroni ) without subdivision approval , but since he ( Fabbroni ) wishes Planning Board - 2 - May 16 , 1978 to split off one lot he is requesting subdivision approval because that would be the third lot in the acreage :. Mr . Fabbroni also pointed.; out that ® in the process of selling the - 2 - 1 / 2 acres to him , Mr . ' Hertel is leaving a ® 60 ' right of way4to the remaining . 13 acres ( including this right of way ) which would provide access to the land . Chairman Bronfenbrenner asked if there were any questions from the Board ' and noted thatk the land in question is the " old Warren Farm " . There were none . Chairman Bronfenbrenner asked if there were any questions from the public . Mr . Gene Likens asked about . the possibility of further divisions of land stating that the new lot ( the 100 - foot lot ) would be big enough for two houses to go on it . Mr . .Fabbroni stated that the proposed 100- foot lot does not allow for enough square footage for two lots , 15 , 000 sq . ft . being required for a lot , and furthermore it does not meet the requirements for a second lot therein fronting on a Town road . In other words , the new lot could not be divided into two lots . - Mrs . Bronfenbrenner also . pointed out that this Board cannot speak to what Mr . John Hertel will do with the rest of his land . There being no further questions from either the Board or the public , Chairman- Bronfenbrenner declared the - Public Hearing closed -at 7 -: 15 p . m . Mr . Stanton stated that he . felt . that it was a good idea- - to - have only the one access to the new lot . Mr . . Fabbroni agreed and noted that access ® is restricted to the buyer . Mrs . Bronfenbrenner reminded the Board that : this is a preliminary subdivision approval - hearing . MOTION --bY Mr -. - Montgomery May--- - seconded " byMr - Bernard Stanton : RESOLVED , - that - --- the -- Pl-anning -Board - of - -the Town --_of _ . Ithaca=grant =_and hereby does - grant- preliminary subdivision -- approval . to Mr . ---Lawrence Fabbroni for- the -, subdivi-sion - r-the - subdivi-sion - of a portion - of __Town _ of Ithaca - Tax - Parcel -No -- 6 - 66 - 3 -3 , -- 127 Warren - Road- ; into -- two - -lots , as . presented this - - date by Mr . Fabbroni and as shown - on plan titled " 112 - Lot Subdivision , 127 Warren Road , Town of Ithaca " , drawn by L . " Fabbroni , NYSPE # 51734 , with Survey . Information taken from Map prepared by T . G . Miller , date 9 / 23/ 77 . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , - May , Grigorov , Baker . Nay - - None . The MOTION was declared - -to be -carried unanimously . DISCUSSION OF SIGN ORDINANCE REVISIONS AND TIMETABLE : Mrs . Bronfenbrenner stated that the Sign Ordinance Committee has not , met because - of - time and , work pressures . She stated that the Sign Ordinance will "- come up on June 27th ( as the second - regular meeting of the Planning Board ) . Mr . May will not be present either June 20th or June 27th . POSSIBILITY . OF MR . MACKESEY LEAVING THE PLANNING BOARD . Mrs . Bronfenbrenner noted that there is a possibility of Mr . Mackesey having to resign from the Planning Board because he is moving into the City of Ithaca . This matter should be resolved in the near future . r Planning Board - 3 - May 16 , 1978 PUBLIC HEARING : TAX PARCELS 6 - 37 - 1 - 20 . 2 , 2085 ) 20 . 6 , 20 . 7 , 20 . 81 20 . 9 , 20 . 10 , 1132 DANBY ROAD , FINAL SUBDIVISION HEARING TO SUBDIVIDE THE ABOVEyLANDS OF ANTHONY J . LEONARDO INTO EIGHT LOTS . Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted matter duly opened at 7 : 20 p . m . and presented for the record the Clerk ' s Affidavit of Posting and Publication of the Notice of Public Hearings on May 9 , 1978 , and May 11 , 1978 , respectively , as required . Mr . Richard Leonardo . appeared before the Board . He ' stated that at the last meeting they did not know exactly how to get final approval . He noted that at that time they had been given Preliminary Approval , December 7 , 1976 , for lots #4 , # 5 , and #6 , subject . to the approval of the Tompkins County Health Department . He stated that such approval from the Health Department has now been received and a copy of their letter dated May 16 , 1978 , signed by Mr . John M . Andersson , Public Health Engineer , approving lots #4 , # 5 , and # 6 has been forwarded to Mr . Fabbroni and to Mr . Bergen , the Town Clerk . Mr . Leonardo commented thatfthe has people interested in Lot . .#10 and Lot #4 at this time . Mr . Fabbroni asked about - the future water main - - when it would be . installed . Mr . Leonardo stated that they ' would . go in as the lots are constructed . He said that they have a " T '.' in the water main which they have already - constructed -- = part of the sewer and water main - . for the . ' entire subdivision are already constructed . Chairman Bronfenbrenner asked about . parkland for this subdivision . She noted - that -- the matter of parkland comes under the aegis of the Planning Board = and-= up- ,to = -10% of-.. . the - subdivision land may be required-- -to - be - set aside -- for --parkland- -or-- open - space..=-= - -- Mr .. -Leonar-do =-stated - -that ---hislather ---3r:� Anthon-y-Leonardo has - already_ donated =- t=hree acres of land = -behind this subd-iv. s-ion-;as- parkland :--==_3t -= was noted: _ that - -the - subdivision - contains= -- about = -three- to - four - acres . = Mr . -. Fabbron-i pointed out _ _that - the matter : of parkland has been dis --- - - . cussed by this Board but - none of the present members were on the Board at that time . ( See Planning Board Minutes - August 14 , August 28 , September 4 , 1973 ) . Mr . May commented that the roadways are suitable as to slope and noted that they are flat . He wondered about the water lines and Mr . Leonardo- stated- that -there - is a - 6 " line running - up Danby-.-Road_ , there =- is an 8 " - line _ on° Sesame Street- rand then back - -into a 611 - main . - Chairman Bronfenbrenner asked if there were any questions from ' the public . There were none . Chairman Bronfenbrenner asked if there were any further ---questions - from the Planning Board . There were none . The Chair de - clared the Public Hearing duly closed at 7 : 30 p . m . . MOTION by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner -, - - -seconded by - Mr . Bernard Stanton : RESOLVED , that the Planning bBoard of- the Town of Ithaca grant and - hereby does grant Final Subdivision Approval for Lots #4 , # 5 , and # 6 of the Leonardo Subdivision , Danby Road , as shown on Map designated as " Subdivision Plan , Section II of Lands of Anthony J . & Clara T . Leonardo , . _ - • Planning Board - 4 - May 16 , 1978 Town of Ithaca - Tompkins Co . New York , by Howard R . Schlieder , P . E . and . L . S . , dated May 2 , 1978 " . - There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , May , Grigorov , Baker . " Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . MOTION by . Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner , seconded by Mr . Bernard Stanton : RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca grant and hereby does grant Preliminary Subdivision Approval to Lots # 7 , . #8 , # 9 , and #10 , as shown on Map designated as " Subdivision Plan , Section II of Lands of Anthony J . & Clara T . Leonardo , Town of Ithaca , Tompkins Co . . . New York , by Howard R . Schlieder , P . E . and L . S . , dated May 2 , 197811 , final subdivi - sion approval being subject to Tompkins County Health Department approval . There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Stanton , May , Grigorov , Baker . Nay - None . - The MOTION was - declared to be carried unanimously . PUBLIC HEARI.NG.. TAX PARCEL. 6 - 24 - 5 - 4 , 1301 . TRUMANSBURG ROAD , SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR ' I . .- SION - TO - THE PROFESSIONAL; BUILDING ; TOMPKINS COUNTY PROFESSIONAL BUILDING CORP . ' Chairman-Bronfenbrenner declared the Public .--.Hearing -in ._ -the= above '-:- = noted matter _= duly-- - opened _ at- - 7 : 50 : p m . _ and - presented- --for the -_record =the = = Clerk ' s. Affidavit = =of Posting ' and Publication= -o f- the Noti=ces of _= Public Hearings - on- May 9 _, 1978'; - and May - 11-, - -- 1978-f- * re spect ivel-y-,-- as : r-equ%red := - - - -Dr :-- Mitchell -presented : a - plot -plan of the - Tompkins = County - :Pro-f-essional - . Building ,_ - located - at 1301 Trumansburg -- Road_, and indicating a proposed addition - of 14 - feet - at the Route 96 _ side and the south side of the existing building , i . e . , the portion which housed Brooks Pharmacy . The addition is proposed for medical offices . He stated that no more parking is required by this proposal , and , in fact , they are proposing to remove four spaces from that area . He stated that they may add additional space if they need it , but they are not planning ' on it . He stated that the roof line - would-. . - remain the same - - the exterior view would . not ' change at all . He commented that there - will . . be - a - sidewalk - - around -..the addition and the store window - will be eliminated . Chairman Bronfenbrenner asked if there were any questions from the public . There were none . Chairman Bronfenbrenner asked if there were any questions from the Board . There were none . Mr . Fabbroni felt that the plan . was presented in good order . ® The Chair closed the Public Hearing at 8 : 02 p . m . MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mr . Montgomery May : RESOLVED , that the --Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca grant and hereby does grant Site Plan Approval to the proposed extension to the Professional Building , 1301 Trumansburg Road , Town of Ithaca Tax - Parcel Planning- Board - 5 - May 16 , .1978 6 - 24 - 3 - 4 , as presented to the Planning Board May 16 , 1978 . ® There being no . further discussion , the Chair called for a vote . Aye - :Bronfenbrenner , Aron , May , Baker , Grigorov . Nay - None . The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously . ADJOURNMENT Upon Motion ' , the Chair declared the Meeting duly adjourned at 8 : 10 p . m . Respectfully submitted , Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary . ' b AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING ® TOWN CLERK ' S OFFICE ITHACA , No Yo I � Edward . L . Bergen , being duly sworn , Say , that- I am the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County , New York , that , the following notice has . been duly posted -on the sign board of the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca and that . the notice has been duly published in the local newspaper : ( Ithaca Journal ) Notice of Public Hearings to be held by the Planning Board of ` the Town of Ithaca on Tuesday , May 16 ; 1978 , ' in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street ( second floor ) , Ithaca , NY , 14850 ; commencing at 7 : 00 p . m . as per attached . cation of sign " board used for "posting ; Front Entrance to Town Hall - Date of Posting ; May 9 , 1978 Date of Publication : May 11 , , 1978 Edward L . Bergen ' Town Clerk Town of Ithaca S tate . of New York . County of Tompkins SS . Town' of Ithaca Sworn to before me this 16th day of May , 19 78 • i . . NOTARY GE UDE ERGEN ' ew York Notary Public, St No. 55-5276725 Qualified in Tomplrins Coin . berm Expires lViarch 301 -9 Thursday , May 11 , 1978 ITHACA JOURNAL 25 t� I Legal Notices TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING TUESDAY, MAY 16; 1978 By direction of the Chairman of the Planning Board, NOTICE IS THEREBY GIVEN that Public ' Hearings will be held. by the Plan_ ,ningBoardoftheTownoflthacaoh I iTuesday, May 16; 1978, in Town I Hall, 126 E . Seneca Street ( second Ifloor ), Ithaca, N .Y ., at the follow- ing times . and on the . following I matters : 17 : 00 P.M. Tax Parcel 6-66-3-3, a ? portion thereof, 127 Warren Road, IPreliminary Subdivision Hearing to subdivide a.2.47 acre parcel into two lots, L. Fabbroni. 7 : 20 P.M:- Tax Parcels 6-37.1 ;20.2, 20.5, 20.6, 20.7,20.81 20:9, 20. 10, 1132 Danby' Road, Final Subdivision 1Hearing to subdivide the above lands of Anthony L. Leonardo into I eight lots. 17 :40 P.M. Tax Parcel 6-24-3-4, 1301 1 I Trumansburg Road, Site Plan Re- view for Extension to the Pro- ® County Building, Tompkins Cou ' County Professional Building Corp. Said Planning Board will at said I times and said place hear all per- I sons in support of such matters or objections thereto. Persons may appear by agent or in person. ? Edward L. Bergen Town Clerk May 11, 1978 Town of Ithaca ) TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS TUESDAY , MAY 16 , 1978 By direction of the Chairman of the Planning Board , NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that Public Hearings will be held by the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca on Tuesday , May 16 , 1978 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street ( second floor ) , Ithaca , N . Y . , at the following times and on the following matters : 7 : 00 P . M . . TAX PARCEL 6 - 66 - 3 - 3 , a portion thereof , 127 Warren Road , Preliminary Subdivision Hearing to subdivide a 2 . 47 acre parcel into two lots , L . Fabbroni . 7 : 20 P . M . TAX PARCELS 6 - 37 - 1 - 20 . 2 , 20 . 5 , 20 . 6 , 20 . 7 , 20 . 8 , 2099 , 20 . 10 , 1132 Danby Road , Final Subdivision Hearing to subdivide the above lands of Anthony L . Leonardo into ® eight lots . 7 : 40 P . M . TAX PARCEL 6 - 24 - 3 - 4 , 1301 Trumansburg Road , Site Plan Review for Extension to ' the Professional Building , Tompkins County Professional Building Corp . Said Planning .. Board will at said times . and . said _ . place hear .. all persons in support of such matters or objections thereto . Persons may appear by agent or in person . Edward L . Bergen Town Clerk Town of Ithaca Dated : May 9 , 1978 Publish : May 11 , 1978 ON r AN " May . 11 , 1978 Mrs o Li ese . -'Bronfenbreiiner ,` , • - '. 00 'Planning Board Chairwoman roO ;Town" - of Ithaca . .. ,. , 126 E : Seneca- St 0" < 7 : =r Ithaca', New York ; 50 ` r, ' 148 � 'Or Re : , Subdivision Request Dear .Mrs .A 00 . Bronfenbrenner . We are in ' the - .,process . of ' ,purchas.ing the _ home =.and farm buildings on : approximately .. 2 : 4;7 , - acres , at 12,7; Warren Road which -_ is a " part of ' Tax " ` Parcel ' .6 - 66. - 3 - 3' • 4 The - pies. nt `' owners John : and ' Martha ` Hertel 'had split • .this ' 2 ., 47. acres from,- a much- larger : parcel - and in so ' - doing , did not require_-, subdivis-ion: :approval ao `split • 4a :• lot . into two . ' Lr . At ` ths time , , however , , ,we wish to ( . and " • financially must )' sell ' the strip of land 10.0 ' • - feet wide for 'the total•. southern '.bound'ary: depth of • the ?_ 2. : 47 •acres :we are .purchasing 'as , - a `4Aot . This - th`ird -lot :p even• though ` almost : twice the size . of .the 15000 : sq . ' ft . " lot _ zoned for this : area _ require's . subdivision' approval . ".. 'L LThe• .prospecaive buyer ;of this lo.t will use the. . existng , driveway as access to this lot;_ and Warren ' Road througgh a mutual ` a&reemefo nt arid . condition of>, sale with "iis. So , there . will --be no ' additional " `driveway cuts on Warren -Road , ' at this time : r Public" water =.- is now : available :along the -east . side ' of Warren - Road . 0 OA or : directly ,accessible Ito, : the lot . ' i ow- :being subdivided : and , sold . by -us . Public sewer- :will be , ava "ilable . ` as : well ; to , this Tsubdvided ' lot along its froritage . with ' ,the completion of :' the . Fores.t - Home . Public sewer . _ Dra narge ' w " ll continue = 'ao ; be " along '"the south > property line I . discharging to-• WarrOp en Road . : The added .' runoff from :Na new 'house on the ® lot: be n& . subdivided will �have0beeri • more . Ithan._, offset : by' the•`• OOreduction ` in runoff as a - 'result of the-. farm. buildings ; already torn -down, in the . last . year. in 'preparation for ;the " Hertel 'Sale . sale to, us .. _ Enclosed please_'` find a ' schematic of 7;the proposed subdivision and drainage. 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GAFFNEY, M.O. 1287 Trumonsburg Road Commissioner of Health CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL OF REALTY SUBDIVISION Ithaca, New York PLANS Phone 273.7272 To : Richard Leonardo May 16 , 1978 Danby Road Ithaca , N . Y . This certificate is issued under the provisions of Article VIII Of the Tompkins County Sanitary Code in connection with the approval of plans of May 16 , 1978 , for your realty subdivision known as Leonardo Subdivision , lots 4 , 5 , and 6 . The following data was furnished in connection with the submission of the plans : Location : Allison Street , Town of Ithaca Acres ( approx . ) 2 No . of Lots 3 Size ( approx . ) 110 x 170 Owner intends to build houses and sell lots Topography sloping . Depth to ground water 2 ' + Soil BqC - silt loam Grading ( cut or fill ) minimal Drainage lot swale to creek Water Supply Town of Ithaca - existing Sewage Disposal Town of Ithaca - existing Approval of this subdivision is granted on condition - 1 . That the proposed facilities for water supply and sewage dis - posal are installed in conformity with said plans . 2 . That a copy of the plan as approved this date shall be filed in the Office of the Clerk of the County of Tompkins . cc : Ithaca T Clerk � BY (ZJ7( ) (ZaP . E . Larry Fabbroni ohn M . Andersson Howard Schlieder Public Health Engineer