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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB Minutes 1978-03-21 TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
TUESDAY , MARCH 21 , 1978
A regular Meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board was held on
Tuesday , March 21 , 1978 , in the Town of Ithaca Town Hall , 126 East Seneca
Street ( second floor ) , Ithaca , New York , at 7 : 30 p . m .
PRESENT : Chairman Liese Bronfenbrenner , Henry Aron , Patrick Mackesey ,
James Baker , Jonathan Bradley , Montgomery May , Bernard Stanton , Carolyn
Grigorov , Lawrence Fabbroni ( Town Engineer ) , Barbara Restaino ( Town Planner ) .
ALSO PRESENT : Mrs . Susan Owen , Mr . Jerry Haas , Mr . Joe Gentili , Mr ..
Mark Goldfarb , Mr . Thomas Niederkorn , Attorney David B . Gersh , Mr• . Evan
Monkemeyer , Mrs . Herbert Monkemeyer , Mr . Edward A . Whitlock , Mr . David
Cassel , Dr . Frank Baldwin ,
Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Meeting opened at 7 : 32 p . m .
REPORT OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR
Mr . Fabbroni reported that in the month of February 1978 one permit was
issued for a car - port in the amount of $ 2 , 000 . 00 , as compared with permits
for three one - family homes and one restaurant - bar in February 1977 in the
amount of $ 182 , 000 . 00 .
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the Town is in the process of documenting
several violations throughout the Town that have been uncovered within the
last month , a number of which are in the ,area of Danby and King Roads .
REPORT OF THE TOWN ENGINEER
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the five - area sewer extensions are out to
bid again . as of March 10th with bid opening on April 5th , 1978 . He reported
that there has been an encouraging response in terms of contractors taking
out plans and specifications and there is much more local interest . He
commented that the Town is hoping for mor; e : . competitive prices .
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the Christopher Circle Tank in the Northeast
will be repainted sometime between July 1st and August 31st , 1978 ,
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the Traffic Committee of the Town Board has
been studying the need for traffic enforcement and the other duties that a
Town constable might undertake , and , as part of these studies , after
talking to various police agencies as to speeding violations and specific
locations relating to same , and before any conclusion as to whether there
is a predominant problem or a speed problem , they would like us to do some
traffic counts and speed checks on various arterials . Any suggestions from
this Board would be most helpful . He reported that the Town Board has
approved the purchase of two traffic counters , however , we will be borrowing
the County ' s traffic counters and the hand meter will be borrowed from the
Village of Cayuga Heights , in order that we may have proper time to
investigate appropriate counters and obtain the best ones for our needs .
Mr . Fabbroni reported that he has had discussions with the County
Highway people and the County Planning people with regard to the proposed
r' road from Route 366 to Pine Tree Road . He stated that there seems to be
renewed interest in this project . It involves the relocation of Pine Tree
Road to Ellis Hollow Road . Mr . Fabbroni noted that Ivor Jonson ' s multi -
family project has been approved in the Town and if there is agreement on
this road possibly the Town would participate in gravelling . Mr . Fabbroni
noted that Cornell University is building a library building and so there
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may be an access road along this future alignment . He noted that there is
a lot / more work to be done to spring the right of way loose . He commented
� that the Planning Board may want to endorse this proposal and put its
> support behind it .
Mr . Fabbroni reported that Mr . Hertel has offerred via a quite claim
deed a 10 ' right of way for a walkway between Warren Road and Forest Home
Drive close to the north bridge in Forest Home . He commented that a walk -
way in this location would be nice . There was some discussion about what
effect any possible sale of the Whetzel property should that ever happen
might have on this walkway .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that there were two items to be presented by Mrs .
Barbara Restaino -
1 . Two BOR applications .
2 . Environmental assessment list which will probably be a matter for
another meeting since it needs action by the Planning Board and the
Town Board .
Mrs . Restaino reported that the Town is applying for two grants right
now . to the Finger Lakes State Parks and Recreation Commission who are the
intermediary in these matters .
1 . One of the grant applications is for matching funds for Coy Glen ,
260 acres acquisition and this is the number one priority . This grant
application has to be in by the end of April . The Town of Ithaca is
the sponsor for this particular grant application .
® 2 . The other grant application is being made jointly with the Ithaca City
School District with the School District being the sponsor in this case ,
for development of the DeWitt Active Recreation site . Ball fields ,
tennis courts , etc . are envisioned . Mrs . Restaino stated that we are
working up the grant packages in the hopes that the School Board will
make some sort of firm decision before the deadline May lst .
Mrs . Restaino reported that an Environmental Assessment Form must be
devised by the Town . For example , she stated , if a person were to be
developing an area and such development might involve the changing of a dam
or the changing of a stream , such developer has to file some sort of
statement showing what type of damage they might do . The Town should con -
sider what type of form it wants these people to fill out . She noted that
we have a sample from the County which we can modify to our needs . ' She
stated that such a form has to be adopted by the Town Board and this should
make it much easier for people to render a statement by just giving them
this form . She noted that then either Mr . Fabbroni or she will evaluate
the statement supplied on the new form and the Planning Board would have
such document before them . Mrs . Restaino stated that the devising of this
form should be a future Planning Board agenda item . The Board asked that
they be sent copies of any proposed form before the meeting at which it
will be discussed .
Mr . Fabbroni reported that there is a proposal in process for an
Agricultural District in Tompkins County . He said that at this point it
has been proposed to the State , he believes , as an Agricultural District
and the Town and County have 30 days to respond in some way to this
District that has been proposed . He noted that it does include the bulk
of West Hill in the Town and he is not sure what the origin is of that
large an area beyond the active farms . He stated that there are about
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eight active farms that are shown in the land and a considerable amount
of area outside of that are farmed . He noted that a lot of properties
are included that are farmed but not owned by the farmer farming them .
Mr . Fabbroni commented that it really ties up a person ' s land for eight
years .
Mr . Baker commented that he thought that one can get out of it any
time for a penalty , i . e . , by paying the back taxes . It is to protect
farmers from utilities costs .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that the Town would like to be in a positive
stance on the land that should be considered rather than having to go so
far in the way of land involved that we have to be negative .
REPORT OF THE PLANNING BOARD CHAIRMAN
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner reported that Mr . Aron would like to be replaced
on the Sign Ordinance Committee . She noted that Mr . May is the other
Planning Board member on this Committee .
Mrs . Grigorov volunteered to assume membership on the Sign Ordinance
Committee with the agreement of the Board .
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JANUARY 3 , 1978 .
MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mr . Patrick Mackesey :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board Minutes of January 3 , 1978 , be
approved as written .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Aron , Mackesey , Baker , Bradley , May , Stanton ,
Grigorov .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
PUBLIC HEARING : PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION HEARING , PROPOSED 6 - LOT SUBDIVI -
SION , EASTWOOD AVENUE , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL #6 - 60 - 1 - 34 . 2 .
Susan Owen ( Mrs . David ) presented a subdivision plan for land at the
end of Eastwood Avenue ( in the City ) and in the general area of Slaterville
Road and Eastwood Commons in the Town . A plan entitled " Lands of Archie
and Vera C . Coggshall and William L . and Josephine Coggshall " , dated
September 28 , 1970 , F . Donald McKee Licensed Surveyor , delineating the
proposed subdivision was presented by Mrs . Owen . The proposal covers
4 . 58 acres of vacant land upon which are proposed 6 lots . facing on a
turn - around . Access would be coming off from Eastwood Avenue . The
smallest proposed lot is noted as lot # 6 and contains . 31 acres and is
approximately 129 ' x 142 ' . Mr . Jerry Haas who was present with Mrs . Owen-
and
wenand is the owner of 1336 Slaterville Road which abutts proposed lot #6
stated that he wants lot #6 for his own purposes . He said that he has no
plans for building upon it since it is undersized , but that someday it
may be buildable , but for the present , he wants it to enlarge his own
property .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that the water would come from the City the
way it is pictured on the plan before the Board . Mr . Fabbroni pointed out
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that should the Planning Board give final subdivision approval , the Town
Board would have to request that these Pots be approved to be added to
,per the list of those properties outside the City served by City water under
1® the Agreement between .. the Town and the City .
Mrs . Owen and Mr . Haas stated that ' they are planning to purchase this
land from Coggshall dependent upon the subdivision approval .
It was noted again that the accessiis from Eastwood Avenue to a turn -
around fronting on the proposed lots and it was determined that the turn -
around is large enough to permit truck manoeuvering . There was some dis -
cussion about the size of lot # 6 and determined that it does not meet
the requirements of R - 15 - - 15 , 000 sq . ft . Mr . Fabbroni suggested pushing
the lot lines up for this lot and rounding the turn - around more to make
lot # 6 a proper size .
There was some discussion of the creek shown on the plan .
Mr . Bradley commented that there is no drainage whatsoever on that
hill and that the development should beldone very carefully . He said the
developer should be very careful how much top soil is stripped off and how
long it remains off . He noted that it is solid clay and there is just no
percolation . There is probably about 6i ' to 8 " of top soil and then yellow
clay .
Mr . Aron asked what the developer would do if they cannot get water
and sewer ? Mrs . Owen and Mr . Haas stated that they will not develop the
land .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked for comments from the public in attendance .
There were none . Mrs . Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing closed
at 8 : 17 p . m . Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked for comments from the Board .
Mrs . Grigorov stated that it seems like a good place for residential .
development .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that a drainage plan , a water and sewer plan , and
the approval from the Health Department , and a survey of the lots can be
presented at the time of consideration of final approval , should prelimin -
ary approval be granted . Mr . Fabbronilalso stated that the easement for
the Bolton Point water line should be shown on the water and sewer plan .
Mr . May stated that he would likelto see a more detailed layout of
the adjacent property owners with regard to drainage , particularly May ,
Schickel ' s Eastwood Commons , and King properties which are adjacent to
this 4 . 58 acres and not delineated on thisplan presently before the Board .
MOTION by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner , seconded by Mrs . Carolyn Grigorov :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Boardlof the Town of Ithaca grant and
hereby does grant preliminary subdivision approval to a proposed 6 - lot
subdivision , Eastwood Avenue , Town of (Ithaca Tax Parcel #6 - 60 - 1 - 34 . 2 ,
subject to the providing of engineering drawings of the water and sewer
lines , of the road cross - section and specifications , detailed drainage
plans particularly showing how it affects adjacent properties , and the
increasing in size of lot #6 to meet R715 requirements , and further
THAT said drainage plan show any necessary culverts and their size
together with the easement for the Bolton Point transmission line .
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There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Aron , Mackesey , Baker , Bradley , May , Stanton , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
PUBLIC HEARING : FINAL SUBDIVISION HEARING OF DEFOREST PARK , 10 - LOT SUB -
DIVISION OF RUMSEY - ITHACA CORP . LAND ONIDUBOIS ROAD AND BACKLOT OF INDIAN
CREEK ROAD AND BEING A PART OF TOWN OF I� THACA TAX PARCEL # 6 - 22 - 2 - 2 . 2 .
= At 8 : 30 p . m . Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in
the above - noted matter open and noted for the record the proper Affidavits
of Posting and Publication .
( Secretary ' s Note : It should also be herein noted for the record that
the proper Affidavits of Posting and Publication were presented for the
Public Hearing just held in the matter of the proposed 6 - lot subdivision off
Eastwood Avenue . )
Mr . Thomas Niederkorn appeared before the Board and stated that since
the Board had met with him the last time and granted preliminary approval
( October 4 , 1977 ) the developer has dug holes on six of the lots and has
submitted final drawings to the Health Department people and the DEC and
approval on those is pending and expected in the usual time that it takes
for such approvals to be forthcoming . He noted that specifications for
sand filters , drainage areas , dispersion trenches are all shown on the
® plans before this Board at this time and also road profiles and cross -
sections and check dams just as required by the Board at the preliminary
hearing . He stated that there are check dams in three locations where the
slope is sufficiently steep .
Mr . Fabbroni was curious as to how; the engineer arrived at the choice
of spacing for the check dams - - they appear every three hundred feet .
Mr . Niederkorn said that the neat spacing was coincidental , the reason for
placement was where the grade seems to be the steepest .
Referring to the Road Profile drawing dated 2 / 28 / 78 by J . S . MacNeill ,
L . E . , Mr . Fabbroni stated that he would like to see two more check dams
for a total of five and that the two beiplaced in between the ones that
are depicted would be adequate .
Referring to the plan before the Board entitled Subdivision Plat ,
2 / 28 / 78 , J . S . MacNeill , L . E . , Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked if this plan meets
all the requirements that this Board set at the preliminary approval
meeting . Mr . Fabbroni stated that it does .
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Mr . Niederkorn noted that the developer has tried to pick a general
location for the home site on each lot . , He stated that this was done
also according to the Health Department requirements which require a
certain amount of buildable area beingiavailable . Mr . Niederkorn stated
that there is ample water available between 100 ' and 120 ' down and running
about 20 gallons per minute . He said there will be an individual well on
each site and that the Health Department has been satisfied that there is
enough water . The lots run from 3 . 2 acres to 4 . 7 acres in size .
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Mr . Fabbroni pointed out that there is no size of culverts shown on
the drawing and further that they should be smaller that the culvert we
have going on to the railroad and highway .
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Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked if there were comments from the public .
There were none . Mrs . Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing closed
® at 8 : 40 p . m . and asked for comments from the Board . There were none .
MOTION by Mr . Patrick Mackesey , seconded by Mr . Bernard Stanton :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca grant and
hereby does grant final subdivision approval of DeForest Park , Phase 1 ,
10 - lot subdivision , lands of Rumsey - Itha'ca Corp . on DuBois Road and back -
lot of Indian Creek Road , a portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel # 6 - 22 - 2 -
2 . 2 , subject to the addition of two check dams for a total of five and
the notation upon the plans here presented of the culvert sizes and that
such culverts be of a smaller dimension than the presently existing culvert
located at the railroad and highway , all, as described and approved by the
Town Engineer , and further subject to the submission of official Health
Department and Department of Environmental Conservation approvals .
By way of comment , Mr . Fabbroni stated that he wished to reiterate
his hopes that Mr . VanEpps pursue a second access at the end of Happy Lane
to the lower land involved in Phase 2 of, this project .
There being no further discussion , ' the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Aron , Mackesey , Baker , Bradley , May , Stanton , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
® PUBLIC HEARING : RECONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED BUSINESS " F " AMENDMENT TO THE
EXISTING TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE .
At 8 : 46 p . m . Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in
the above - noted matter open and presented for the record proper Affidavits
of Posting and Publication and Service by Mail of the Notice of Public
Hearing upon the various neighbors .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner stated to the Board that the Planning Board
is under instruction from the Town Board to put together an amendment to
the existing Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance that applies to the whole
Town . Chairman Bronfenbrenner stated that the matter before the Board
is the proposed Business District " F " amendment only and not the Monkemeyer
development proposal .
Attorney David B . Gersh asked the Board if it were their understanding
that the Town Board ' s reason for the Planning Board ' s reconsideration of
the proposed amendment to the ordinance , referred to as " Section 35B -
Combination Residence - Business Districts ' F '" , and being the proposed
amendment unanimously approved by the Planning Board on December 12th after
both the Planning Board and Town Board had met jointly , is no longer
applicable ?
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner explained that , the Town Board has expressed its
general feeling that the proposed amendment is too detailed and seems to
apply just to one development , that being Mr . Monkemeyer ' s proposal for
South Hill , and now wishes to see a proposal before them that is more
general in nature and thereby applicable to the entire Town of Ithaca .
Mr . Gersh expressed his confusion stating that it seems strange because
the essence of the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance is what the Town Board
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itself has called a " shopping list " . He stated that he was confused by
the feeling that the proposed amendment that we all have worked out is
® not applicable to the whole Town of Ithaca since it is identical to the
manner in which other districts are set forth be they business or even
residential wherein the uses are specifically stated .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner presented for the Board ' s consideration a draft
of proposed wording for the Business " F " amendment as being reflective of
the Town Board ' s wishes . Each member of the Board perused the draft at
some length .
Mr . Stanton stated that he was mostly concerned with what is on Mrs .
Bronfenbrenner ' s list and what is in the one approved by this Board pre -
viously . He expressed concern that if a use is not stated it means that
such use is not permitted .
Mr . Mackesey agreed and spoke to the nature of the existing zoning
ordinance to which this proposal is an amendment . He noted that it is
his understanding of our ordinance thatlif it is not written it cannot be
done . Mr . Mackesey suggested that at this point there really should be
another joint meeting of the Town Board and the Planning Board in order to
determine how what the Town Board wants might fit with the present ordinance .
There followed a lengthy discussion of the Town of Ithaca Zoning
Ordinance being a " permissive " ordinance in that it delineates the uses
in the various districts described .
Mr . Fabbroni commented that this Business " F " District proposal for
- ® amendment to the ordinance is much more restrictive as far as building
coverage .
Mr . Monkemeyer stated that he would be most willing to have gas
station proposed for item 12 in section c . be required to be 300 feet from
any combination residence - business structure instead of 200 feet , should
that be a problem .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked for comments from the public . There were
none . Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the public hearing closed at 9 : 10
p . m .
MOTION by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner , seconded by Mr . Montgomery May :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend and
hereby does recommend to the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca approval of
the proposed amendment to the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance adding to
said ordinance Section 35B Combination Residence - Business Districts " F "
as unanimously approved by said Planning Board at its regular meeting of
December 12 , 1977 , and as recommended to said Town Board for its . appr. oval ,
since the existing ordinance is permissive in nature and thereby requires
delineation of uses within a district , with the one exception that paragraph
" c . " " 12 . " shall read " Gasoline Sales Station and Garage for Repairs and
Self - Service or Manned Gas Pumps , provided there shall be only one such
use in a District " F " and further provided that such use shall be 300 feet
from any combination residence - business structure . "
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Aron , Mackesey , Baker , Bradley , May , Stanton , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
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The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mr . James Baker :
RESOLVED , if the recommendation as . just voted .upon _ . and carried
unanimously is not approved by the Town Board that the Planning Board
requests that the Planning Board is invited to a joint meeting with the
Town Board to resolve any differences .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Aron , Mackesey , Baker , Bradley , May , Stanton , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
MOTION by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner , seconded by Mr . Montgomery. . May :
RESOLVED , that the Resolution duly adopted by the Planning Board
immediately prior to Mr . Aron ' s motion whereby said Planning Board recom -
mended Town Board approval of the proposed amendment adding Section 35B
to the existing Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance , be amended by the addition
of the following preamble thereto :
WHEREAS , the proposal for the addition of Section 35B Combination
Residence - Business Districts " F " is identical in format to the manner in
which Business Districts " A " , " B " and " C " are prescribed in the existing
Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance , and
WHEREAS , said proposed Business District " F " is an amendment to the
existing Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance , and
WHEREAS , said proposed amendment is to apply throughout the Town of
Ithaca as do said Business Districts " A " , " B " and " C " , now , therefore ,
BE IT .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Aron , Mackesey , Baker , Bradley , May , Stanton , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
MOTION by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner , seconded by Mr . Patrick Mackesey :
WHEREAS , the proposal for the addition of Section 35B Combination
Residence - Business Districts " F " is identical in format to the manner in
which Business Districts " A " , " B " and " C " are prescribed in the existing
Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance , and
WHEREAS , said proposed Business District " F " is an amendment to the
existing Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance , and
WHEREAS , said proposed amendment is to apply throughout the Town of
Ithaca as do said Business Districts " A " , " B " and " C " , now , therefore ,
BE IT RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend
and hereby does recommend to the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca approval
of the proposed amendment to the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance adding to
said ordinance Section 35B Combination Residence -Business Districts " F "
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as unanimously approved by said Planning Board at its regular meeting
of December 12 , 1977 , and as recommended to said Town Board for its
® approval , since the existing ordinance is permissive in nature and
thereby requires delineation of uses within a district , with the one
exception that paragraph " c . " " 12 . " shall read " Gasoline Sales Station
and Garage for Repairs and Self - Service or Manned Gas Pumps , provided
there shall be only one such use in a District " F " and further provided
that such use shall be 300 feet from any combination residence - business
structure . "
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Aron , Mackesey , Baker , Bradley , , May , Stanton , Grigorov .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Mr . Gersh now referred to his letter of March 14 , 1978 , to Chairman
Bronfenbrenner in re Evan Monkemeyer , wherein in accordance with Section
281 of the Town Law he made written application on Mr . Monkemeyer ' s
behalf , as his attorney , for the use of the cluster procedure for the
development of the approximately 31 acres of Mr . Monkemeyer ' s land rezoned
from R- 30 to R - 15 by the Town Board at its March 13th , 1978 , public hearing .
Mr . Gersh ' s letter requested that the Planning Board be so kind as to
schedule this matter for their consideration .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner agreed that this matter shall be an agenda
® item for Planning Board consideration as soon as possible .
Attorney Gersh and Mr . Monkemeyer expressed their thanks to the Board
for their thoughtful consideration .
PUBLIC HEARING : SITE PLAN REVIEWS FOR SELF - SERVICE GAS AND PHOTO KIOSK
AND KEY SERVICE AND COPY SERVICE AT EAST HILL PLAZA , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX
PARCEL 6 - 62 - 2 - 1 . 2 .
At 9 : 20 p . m . Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in
the above - noted matter open and presented for the record proper Affidavits
of Posting and Publication and Service by Mail of the Notice of Public
Hearing upon the various neighbors . The Secretary presented a Memo to the
Chair and the Board from Mr . Knowlton explaining why he was unable to
attend this meeting .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner noted that Mr . Knowlton was stuck in Sharon Pa .
because of two automobile breakdowns en route from Boulder , Colorado .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner read the following from Mr . Knowlton ' s message :
" Mr . Knowlton apologizes most profusely for the inconvenience caused
the Board by this unfortunate set of circumstances .
He asked me to convey the following message to the Planning Board :
1 . The Business " D " zone runs up into his property on the Judd Falls Road
side .
2 . Rather than further complicating the matter with another hearing he
will use just the " D " zone for a free - standing gas unit only , self -
service , two islands with two pumps each and small enclosure for
attendant , all covered with a canopy .
3 . He will have the actual plan for the above attached to a Building Permit
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application and submit it to Mr . Fabbroni next week .
Again , Mr . Knowlton expressed his apologies and dismay at his
inability to attend tonight ' s meeting . "
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner stated that Mr . Knowlton ' s message notwithstanding ,
under Section 46A of the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance any development of
a Business District must have site plan approval from the Planning Board .
Dr . Frank Baldwin asked from the floor how this information on the
size of the Business " D " district in this area came out . Mrs . Bronfenbren -
ner explained that since the last meeting on the two proposals for gas
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slands at this corner it has been determined that the Zoning Schedule is
erroneous and further that the amendment to the ordinance creating this
Business " D " zone clearly shows the size and location of same ( Opinion ,
Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals , March 10 , 1978 ) .
Chairman Bronfrenbrenner stated that upon due and proper considera -
tion of traffic , drainage , Health Department approval , etc . , any request
for development that meets all requirements of the zoning ordinance has
the right to be considered in a positive and objective manner for
approval and a developer has a right to develop his land at such time as
the requirements are met .
There being no further comment from the floor or the Board , Chairman
Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in the above - noted matter
adjourned sine die .
® PUBLIC HEARING : SITE PLAN REVIEWS FOR SELF - SERVICE GAS ISLAND AND CON -
VENIENCE GROCERY STORE AT NORTHEAST CORNER OF JUDD FALLS ROAD AND ELLIS
HOLLOW ROAD , TOWN OF ITHACA TAX PARCEL 6 - 62 - 2 - 1 . 13 .
At 9 : 30 ... p .. m . Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in
the above - noted matter open and presented for the record proper Affidavits
of Posting and Publication and Service by Mail of the Notice of Public
Hearing upon the various neighbors .
Mr . Goldfarb stated before the Board that the proposal here presented
is the same as it has been heretofore presented with the exception that ,
at the suggestion of the Zoning Board of Appeals which met on the matter
on March 10 , 1978 , he has divided the property ( . 995 acres ) into two
parcels .
Mr . Fabbroni described the resolutions adopted by the Zoning Board of
Appeals of which a copy of the Minutes had previously been mailed to the
Planning Board and a copy of which is attached to the Official Minutes of
this meeting .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked Mr . Fabbr• oni to speak to the matter of the
impact upon the proposal by Mr . Goldfarb of the proposed relocation of
Pine Tree Road and the proposed road from Ellis Hollow to Route 366 . Using
the blackboard , Mr . Fabbroni pictured thereon the proposals and stated that
there is serious discussion in a short term to relocate Pine Tree Road
1 , 000 feet and then in the longer term a road to pick up with Route 366
and Caldwell Road . The proposed road runs into Pine Tree Road very near
Snyder Hill Road . He stated that the portion from Snyder Hill Road to
Ellis Hollow Road could be accomplished within two years .
Mr . May asked what kind of landscaping Mr . Goldfarb envisioned . Mr .
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Goldfarb stated that the front area would be for the most part grass and
contain low - lying shrubbery . He noted that he did not want to block the
® view . Mr . Goldfarb commented that he was a little disturbed about the
inaccuracy of the maps involved herein .
Mr . May stated that he was very concerned about the hazards of this
intersection . He described the intersection at some length and in terms
of its many problems with site distance , with negotiation of the off -
set cornering , etc .
Mr . Goldfarb stated that that is the reason why he has designated an
entrance only off Ellis Hollow Road .
Mr . David Cassel , referring to the Ellis Hollow Road entrance , and
stated that he agreed entirely with Mr . May and noted that unless there is
some way to avoid left turns into this proposed gas service and grocery
store there is a very hazardous situation . Mr . Cassel suggested that
there be no entrance off Ellis Hollow Road until the road change that Mr .
Fabbroni has informed us of is made . He suggested that when Pine Tree Road
is moved , the entrance could then be opened up .
Mr . Goldfarb countered that suggestion and pointed out that it has
been discussed upon several occasions with the Planning Board here that
when Pine Tree Road is straightened up , then that entrance could become
both an entrance and an exit . Mr . Goldfarb stated that he feels strongly
that he must have an entrance on Ellis Hollow Road .
Mr . Bradley suggested channelizing the entrance so that there is no
® left turn feasible at all . only the right turn into the property which is
really what Mr . Goldfarb is interested in anyway .
Dr . Baldwin questioned when there may be substantial reasons for
disapproving a plan for a permitted use in a zone when the requirements
of the ordinance are met . Mrs . Bronfenbrenner explained about the
difficulties of the Judd Falls / Ellis Hollow corner . Dr . Baldwin asked
if this is not a substantial reason for disapproval . Mrs . Bronfenbrenner
explained that several developers have presented plans for this site
including Mr . Goldfarb who had also presented plans for a full - service
gas station at one time , and each had been discouraged by this Board .
However , Mr . Goldfarb ' s plan has met the many constraints put upon him by
the Board with this present plan .
Mr . Cassel asked if there were any architectural drawings of the
proposed building and island . Mr . Goldfarb presented preliminary plans
for the proposed convenience - type grocery store . He stated that it would
be wood frame , single story . It has an irregular shape but measures
approximately 70 ' x 40 ' and contains approximately 2 , 150 sq . ft . It would
have a shingle roof ,
Mr . Fabbroni noted that the way the building is described would
require shifting it on the site plan about 51
.
Mr . Aron commented that the building is quite attractive looking .
Mr . Mackesey and Mr . Stanton agreed .
Dr . Baldwin asked about any proposed signage . Mr . Goldfarb stated
that he is aware of the Town of Ithaca Sign Ordinance ., He stated that
he will be submitting the proper application for signage and will meet
the requirements of the ordinance . Mr . Fabbroni commented that he and
Planning Board - 12 - March 21 , 1978
Mr . Bonnell and Mr . Goldfarb would have to look at the location before
® Mr . Goldfarb could submit his sign permit application .
Mr . May repeated his concern with traffic at this corner . Mr .
Goldfarb stated that this is what we have discussed at several meetings and
this is what all the Board suggested he come up with . Mr . Goldfarb said
that he thinks that people look at this area as being out in the country
and that having some building there will help people ' s awareness of other
people . Mr . Mackesey agreed that Mr . Goldfarb had designed his proposal
to meet all the requirements of the Board .
At the same time , but separately , both Mr . Fabbroni and Mr . Aron
suggested a change in the alignment of the Ellis Hollow Road entrance which
would eliminate almost entirely the possibility of a left hand turn into
the gas island and store .
Mr . Mackesey stated that he felt also that people do look at this area
as the breakpoint of being out in the country and put on the gas .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner asked if there were any further comments from
the public . There were none . At 10 : 17 p . m . the Chair declared the Public
Hearing closed . Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked if there were any further
comments from the Board or if a motion were in order .
Mr . Goldfarb stated that because of unforeseen delays on the part of
all of us , he would respectfully ask the Board not to present any further
delays because of the coming on of good weather .
Mr . Mackesey asked Mr . Goldfarb if he can live with the entrance off
Ellis Hollow Road as suggested by Mr . Fabbroni and Mr . Aron , Mr . Goldfarb
stated that he could most definitely .
Mr . May asked Mr . Goldfarb if he could live with no entrance at all
off Ellis Hollow Road until the road is moved . Mr . Goldfarb stated that he
could not .
Mr . Mackesey stated that in many previous discussions this Board has
asked Mr . Goldfarb to come back with this plan this way and now this Board
is still having questions about Ellis Hollow Road . Mr . Aron agreed that
Mr . Goldfarb has met all the requirements and suggestions of both the
Planning Board and the Zoning Board . Mr . Aron added that he would also. . , . :;
ask if Mr . Goldfarb could put in a " no left turn " sign on his property .
Mr . Goldfarb stated that he definitely could and added that there will
definitely be a " No Exit " sign on his property . It was stated that the
Dept . of Transportation might entertain a " no left turn " sign on the
road itself .
MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mr . Bernard Stanton :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend and
hereby does recommend to the Town Board approval of the site plans for
parcels designated " D " and " C " for self - service gas island and convenience
grocery store at northeast corner of Judd Falls Road and Ellis Hollow Road ,
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel 6 - 62 - 2 - 1 . 13 as presented by Mr . Mark Goldfarb ,
owner and developer , on this date , March 21 , 1978 , subject to the following :
1 . That the convenience grocery store building shall be at least 20 feet
from any lot line ;
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2 . That the entrance from Ellis Hollow Road be constructed as a
restricted entrance only from said Ellis Hollow Road as approved by
the Town Engineer to encourage right turn entrances only ;
3 . That parcel numbers be assigned by the Tompkins County Assessment
Department to said Parcels ' ' D " and " C " ;
4 . That there be granted approval by the Tompkins County Highway Department
for the size of the driveway culverts ;
5 . That there be granted approval from the Tompkins County Health Depart -
ment ;
and , further
BE IT RESOLVED , that with specific regard to the pump islands that
said pump islands be completely removed together with underground gas
tanks within six months after the ceasing of business permanently .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Mackesey , Baker , Bradley , Aron , Stanton .
Nay - May , Grigorov .
The MOTION was declared to be carried six to two .
ADJOURNMENT
Upon Motion , the Meeting was declared to be adjourned at 10 : 41 p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary .
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® Mark Goldfarb
409 Lake Street
Ithaca , New York 14850
March 14 , 1978
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Mrs . Lisa Bronfenbrenner , Chairwoman
Planning Board , Town of Ithaca
126 E. Seneca Street
Ithaca , N. Y . * 14850
Dear Mrs . Bronfenbrenner .
Enclosed , please find a copy of the site plan that was submitted with my
application for a building permit last month.' I have now included the
line , as suggested by the Board of Zoning Appeals , to divide the lot
into two parcels ; tine zoned " D " , the other zoned " C " .
I would also like to request that two separate building .:, permits be issued ;
one for each parcel. This might avoid further problems and delays .
In view of the fact that we have all encounter Ied unexpected delays in
this matter , and that the weather is now becoming more cooperative for
construction , I would sincerely appreciated' the Board ' s prompt response .
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MEMORANDUM
TO : Liese Bronfenbrenner , Chairman
and
® Members of the Planning Board
FROM : Nancy Fuller
RE : Stewart Knowlton ( Groff Assoc . ) Proposal
East Hill Plaza
DATE : March 21 , 1978
Mr . Knowlton telephoned from Sharon , Pennsylvania , where he is stuck
because of TWO automobile breakdowns en route to Ithaca from Boulder ,
Colorado . His own personal car broke down in Indiannopolis , Indiana ,
whereupon he rented a car which died a horrible death in Sharon , Pa .
He tried to charter an airplane to get him to Ithaca in time for tonight ' s
meeting and could not . He is forced to stay in Sharon , Pa . and pick up
another rental car and drive back to Indiannapolis to retrieve his own
car which should be repaired by that time - - he hopes .
Mr . Knowlton apologizes most profusely for the inconvenience caused the
Board by this unfortunate set of circumstances .
He asked me to convey the following message to the Planning Board :
1 . The Business " D " zone runs up into his property on the Judd Falls
Road side .
2 . Rather than further complicating the matter with another hearing he
will use just the " D " zone for a free - standing gas unit only , self -
service , two islands with two pumps each and small enclosure for
attendant , all covered with a canopy .
3 . He will have the actual plan for the above attached to a Building
Permit application and submit it to Mr . Fabbroni next week .
Again , Mr . Knowlton expressed his apologies and dismay at his inability
to attend tonight ' s meeting .
RE : Rezoning , S . W . Barnes ,
' R- 30 . to Business " C " and "D "
RESOLUTIONS
of the
TOWN BOAI?D , TOWN OF ITIVXA
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liTMHEAS application has been made by Stephen William
Barnes of 1006 Ellis Hollow Toad for the Rezoning of the westerl
2D.-.-17'Ce? Acres or so of his farm at the northeast corner of the
Judd Palls Road—Ellis Hollow Road intersection , from R- 30 to
Business uses ( asking that some 25 Acres thereof be zoned
Business " C " , and 2 small parcels of approximately 0 . 85 Acres
each to be zoned ; Business " D " ) ;
AICD ly"HEF ES such application was initiated on or abou
August 6 , 1968 by application to the Town of Ithaca Planning
Board pursuant to Article IX , Section 46 of the Zoning Ordinance
as amended , re -enacted and re -adopted in 19680 ( such original
application having also requested rezoning to Multiple Residence
the easterly 18. 3 Aeree of said farm , but such request having
$ been subsequently withdrawn ) ; and the Planning Board having duly
held a Public Hearing thereon on the 13th day of August 1968 , ,
following a Notice thereof published on the 7th day of August
1968 ;
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AIM SAID PLANNING BOARD having by Resolutions filed
August 21 , 1968 with the Town Clerk unanimously recommended such
rezoning subject to its suggestion that the proposed gasoline
service station Zone " D " at the road intersection be relocated
northerly along Judd Falls Road adjacent to the other proposed
" D " Zone to avoid cross — traffic at the intersection ; and
further recommending that the developer and others work with the
Totm and County to obtain the realignment of the . south end of
Judd Falls Road westerly so that it would meet the Ellis Hollow
Road at more nearly a right angle , and to obtain the realignrsent
Of the northerly end of Pine Tree Road easterly , so that it also
would meet the Ellis Hollow Road ( a/k/a Mitchell Street Extensio )
at a. right angle ; and the Planning Board having also found the
application to be in complete harmony with Zoning Ordinance
Section 78 criteria for such a change ( i . e . , that need exists for
such a zone in this location , that it will not adversely affect
existing and probable future character of the neighborhood , and
that it accords with a comprehensive plan of development of the
Town -- this precise location having been listed on Planning
Board maps for the last 10 years or so as a satisfactory site fol
a needed business and service zone in this area ) ;
EXCEPT THAT THE- FOLLOWING DESCRIBED 2 . 65 Acres of �
said parcel is hereby established as a Business " D " District , to
the extent only that the Town_ of Ithaca P1_ 4nning Board shall
hereafter , pursuant to Section 46 ( a ) of the Zoning Ordinance ,
upon application therefor , approve a specified Business, " D " use
development in particular part ( s ) thereof ( any part ( s ) not so
approved for or devoted to a Businesst� "D " use to meantime con—
f stitute zone ( s ) for permissible Business +' C_" uses ) , this excepted
parcel being particularly described as follows .
Beginning at the point of intersection of the
center line of the Judd Falls South Road with the
center line of the Ellis Hollow Road , and running
thence northerly and northwesterly along the
center line of said Judd Falls South Road 549 .5
feet to a point which 315 feet southeasterly`
along said highway center line from . the north—
west corner of the Stephen W . Barnes property ;
thence north 780 east ' 180 feet to a point ; thence
-Wo.uth, 120 east , at right angles to the last
mentioned course 520 feet more or less to a point ,
h30bOS ',. : swest 180 feet more or
less to a point in the center line of the
Ellis Hollow Road , such course passing through '
a pin set in the northerly line of said roadway ;
thence north 580 52 ' west along the center line
of the Ellis Hollow Road 154 . 85 feet to the
point of beginning ; oontaining 2 . 65 Acres more
or less .
FURTMM , in the event that the southerly portion of
Judd Falls Road' South is hereafter relocated westerly to a more
nearly right angle or otherwise improved intersection with Ellis
Hollow Road , as recommended , resulting in a gore of land between
the west line of this rezoned property and such realigned road ,
the Business "D " District hereby oreated , subject to Business " C
District utilisation , as aforesaid , shall be automatically ex—
tended we & rly to - such realigned road upon receipt by the Town
Clerk of a written consent thereto from the owner of . any such rewo
sultant gore of land , the intention hereof being to maintain SUCIL
Business " D " District adjacent to said road ; but any development
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thereon shall also be subject to Planning Board approval under
Section 46 ( a ) of the Zoning Ordinance .
THIS AT(,rMMIENT shall take effect ten ( 10 ) days after
the posting and publication hereof as required by Section 265 of
the Town Law .
( B ) AICD BE IT FLIRT RESOLVED , that the foregoing
Resolution shall constitute the Ordinance necessary to establish
the foregoing Diat-ict and to amend the zoning map all for the
purposes hereby intended , and` that a copy thereof ( omitting the
preamble hereto ) shall be posted on the official sign board mainm
PLANNING/ ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH CONSULTANTS
310 W. STATE STREET
ITHACA NEW YORK
® 607 • 273 • 8280 14850
March 9 , 1978
Mr . Lawrence P . Fabbroni
Town Engineer
Town of Ithaca
126 East Seneca Street
Ithaca , New York 14850
Dear Larry :
Submitted herewith are two copies of the Final Plat of the DeForest Park
subdivision . Other copies have been submitted for review and approval to the
Tompkins County Health Department and the State Department of Environmental
Conservation .
It would be very helpful if the Planning Board could proceed with its final
® review concurrently with the Health Department . We understand , of course ,
that approval by the Planning Board would have to be subject to final Health
Department approval and that the Plat could not be signed or filed until the
Health Department approval was obtained . When such approval is received ,
however , we want to be able to file as quickly as possible .
Thank you .
Very truly yours ,
PLANNING / ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH CONSULTANTS
Thomas Niederkorn
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AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING
TOWN CLERK ' S OFFICE
ITHACA , N . Y.
I , Edward L . BerFren � , being duly
-sworn , say , that I am the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca, Tompkins
County , New York , that the following notice has - been duly posted -on
the sign board of the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca and that the
notice has been duly published in the local newspaper : ( Ithaca Journal )
Notice of Public Hearings to be held by Town of Ithaca Planning Board on
Tuesda$ ,' March 21 , 1978 , commencing at 7 : 45 p . m . , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca
Street ( second floor ) , Ithaca , New York , as per attached .
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.cation of sign board used for posting : Front Entrance to Town Hall
Date of Posting ; March 14 , 1978.
Date of Publication : March 16 , 1978
and L . Bergen -
Town Clerk -
Town of Ithaca
State of New York
County of Tompkins SS .
Town of Ithaca
Sworn to before me this 16th day of March , 19 78 •
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GERTRUDE H. BER: 1
Notary Pubiic, State of New York
No, 55-5278725
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Qualified it TMar d .
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNINGSend:
! BOARD Add
It NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS f,rSt-t
it TUESDAY, MARCH 21, 1978
ey Direction of the Chairman of Send ',
•,d the Planning Board, NOTICE', IS
17 HEREBY GIVEN that Public MARK
Hearings will be held by the Plan- ,
ningBoard oftheTownoflthacaon
3 Tuesday, March 21, . 1978, in Town Pane
-� Hall, 126 .East Seneca„Street
( sec—ond floor ); • Ithaca, N :Y., at the
.following times and on the follow-
ing matters : 232
7 : 45 P.M. Preliminary Subdivision NY i
Hearing, Proposed 6-Lot Sub- ORES
I division, Eastwood Avenue, Town .
iof Ithaca Tax Parcel 6-60- 1 -34.2. INUM'
8 : 00 P.M. Final Subdivision Hear- LOON
ing ,of DeForest Park, 10-Lot 'Sub-
division of Rumsey- Ithaca Corp. on if
landonDuBois RoadandbacklotofdteS:
Indian Creek Road and being a '
part of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel all
6-22.2-2:2.
8 : 15 P.M. Reconsideration of Pro- ;MER
posed Business " F " amendmentto : path
the existing Town of Ithaca Zoning 107;
Ordinance. . 106;
8 : 45 P.M. . Site Plan Reviews for
Self-Service Gas and Photo Kiosk 105
and Key Service and Copy Service 126
at East Hill Plaza, Town of Ithaca
Tax Parcel 6-62-2-1 .2.
9 : 15 P.M. Site Plan Reviews for ARE.
Self-Service Gas Island andConve• crimj
nience Grocery Store at Northeast Com,
cornerofJudd Falls RoadandEllis —J
Hallow Road, Town of Ithaca Tax DES
� - Parcel 6.62-2- 1 . 13. -furni
Said Plannimg Board will at said Sold,
times and .said place hear all per- —
sons in support of such matters or ELE
i objections thereto. Persons may safe
I appear by agent or in person. Yam
Edward L. Bergen Inn, l
' Town Clerk --
-.Town of Ithaca FLY
Dated : March 140 1978 . Floe'
Publish : March 16, 1978 - 2 pe,
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS
® TUESDAY , MARCH 21 , 1978
By direction of the Chairman of the Planning Board , NOTICE IS HEREBY
GIVEN that Public Hearings will be held by the Planning Board of the Town
of Ithaca on Tuesday , March 21 , 1978 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street
( second floor ) , Ithaca , N . Y . , at the following times and on the following
matters :
7 : 45 P . M . Preliminary Subdivision Hearing , Proposed 6 - Lot Subdivision ,
Eastwood Avenue , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel 6 - 60 - 1 - 34 . 2 .
8 : 00 P . M . Final Subdivision - Hearing of DeForest- Park-;-- 10 - Lot . Subdivision
of Rumsey - Ithaca - Corp . -land - on DuBois. Road - and backlot of
Indian Creek Road and being a part of Town of Ithaca Tax
_ Parcel 6 - 22 - 2 - 2 . 2 .
8 : 15 P . M . Reconsideration of Proposed Business " F " amendment to the
existing _Towft - of Ithaca= , Zoning - Ordinance .
8 : 45 P : M . Site : Plan Reviews _for - Sel--f= Service -' Gas and =- Photo Kiosk and - -- - '
Key Service and - Copy Service at East - H.il-1 Plaza -, --� Towh of - Ithaca.-
Tax Parcel 6 - 62 - 2 - 1 . 2 .
9 : 15 P .- M . Site Plan Reviews for Self - Service Gas Island and Convenience
Grocery Store at Northeast corner of Judd . Falls Road and
Ellis Hollow Road , Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel 6 - 62 - 2 - 1 . 13 .
Said Planning Board will at said times and said place hear all
persons - in support - of such-= : matters - - or objections thereto -. Persons - may ,
appear
ersons - may-
appear by agent or in person .
Edward L . Bergen
Town Clerk
Town of Ithaca
Dated : March 14 , 1978
Publish : March 16 , 1978
AFFIDAVIT OF SERVICE BY MAIL
STATE OF NEW YORK ) SS :
COUNTY OF TOMPKINS )
Nancy Me Fuller , being duly sworn , deposes and says , that
deponent is not a party to the actions , is over 21 years of age
and resides at 316 Turner Place , Ithaca , New York .
That on the 15th day of March , 1978 , deponent served the
within Notice upon :
Groff , Lynch & Knowlton Evan Monkemeyer
240 E . Mill St . 123 E . King Rd ,
Horseheads , NY 14845 Ithaca , NY 14850
George Ideman Sharon Staz
946 Mitchell St . 117 E . King Rd .
Ithaca , NY 14850 Ithaca , NY 14850
E . A . I . Co -Op , Inc . Edward Whitlock
Box 518 115 E . King Rd .
Ithaca , NY 14350 Ithaca , NY 14850
Scott Anderson & Ken Wormser Fred Stolz
1876 Judd Falls Rd . 113 E . King Rd .
Ithaca , NY 14850 Ithaca , NY 14850
Lynch , Groff & Knowlton Robert Pedecs
302 W . Mill Ste 111 E . King Rd .
Horseheads , NY 14845 Ithaca , NY 14850
Dr , Harold Purdy Edward Barnett
1350 Ellis Hollow Rd . 107 E . King Rd .
Ithaca , NY 14850 Ithaca , NY 14850
Paul R . Ridley Sam Peter
1022 Ellis Hollow Rd . 1083 Danby Rd .
Ithaca , NY 14850 Ithaca , NY 14850
Ken Wormser & Scott Anderson Ali , Gerber , Pappas & Cox
421 Nelson Rd . ( Mat Assoc . )
Ithaca , NY 14850 Gridley Bldg ,
Syracuse , NY 13202
David Cassel
152 Pine Tree Rd . M . Elaine Potter
Ithaca , NY 14850 208 Bald Hill Rd .
Spencer , NY 14883
Stewart Knowlton
Box 414 Salino
Windsor , NY 13865 1080 Danby Rd .
Ithaca , NY 14850
NI . Goldfarb & We Norton
409 Lake St . Judith Meier
Ithaca , NY 14850 1060 Danby Rd .
Ithaca , NY 14850
Herbert Monkemeyer
8421 Chapin Parkway Rose Gostanian Monkemeyer
Jamaica , NY 11432 1059 Danby Rd .
Ithaca , NY 14850
Evan Monkemeyer
1059 Danby Rd . Robert Farley
Ithaca , NY 14850 1050 Danby Rd ,
Ithaca , NY 14850
Lenora Ann Monkemeyer
719 Livingstone Ave . Homer Palmer
Syracuse , NY 13200 1005 Danby Rd ,
Ithaca , NY 14850
Sidney Gilbert
277 Esplanade Dr .
Rochester , NY 14600
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William E . Harding Carlton Wood Day.id . B . Gersh . , Esq .
993 Danby Rd . 981 Danby Rd . 300 N . Tioga St .
Ithaca , NY 14850 Ithaca , NY 14850 Ithaca , NY 14850
Edward F . Bennett Savino Ferrara
989 Danby Rd . 979 Danby Rd ,
Ithaca , NY 14350 Ithaca , NY 14850
Angelo Petito Helen Blauvelt
985 Danby Rd . 977 Danby Rd .
Ithaca , NY 14850 Box 13
Ithaca , NY 14850
Carlo Petito
983 Danby Rd . Emil Policay , Director
Ithaca , NY 14850 Buildings and Properties
Ithaca College
Ithaca , NY 14850
By depositing same enclosed in a postpaid addressed wrapper ,
in a post office under the - exclusive care and custody of the
United States Post Office Department within the State of New
York .
'�ZA
Nan y M . F ller
Sworn to before me this
15th day of March , 1978 .
Notary Public
GERTRUDE H. BERGF14
Notary Public, State of New 1049
No. 55-5278725
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Le BRONFENBRENNER
108 MC INTYRE PLACE
ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850
March 9 , 1978
Peter K . Francese Chairman
Zoning Board of Appeals
501 Warren Road
Ithaca , NY 14850
Dear Peter :
I hope this letter reaches you before the
Zoning Board of Appeals meeting to dicuss the Planning Board ' s
request for an interpretation of # 35 of the Zoning Ordinance .
We would also like to have an interpretation on the following
which is at the top of page 4 of the Town Board
paragraph
rezoning resolution for the Barnes property , dated 9 / 9 / 1968 :
. . . . is hereby established as a Business " D " District , to
the extent only that the Town of Ithaca Planning Board
shall hereafter , pursuant to Section 4 .6 ( a ) of the
Zoning Ordinance , upon application therefor , approve a
specified Business " D " use development in particular part ( s )
thereof ( any part ( s ) not so approved for or devoted to a
Business " D " use to meantime constitute zone ( s ) for
permissible Business " C " uses ) . . . .
Does this mean both " C " and " D " uses are
permitted in the described " D " zone or only either one ?
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TOWN OF ITHACA
126 EAST SENECA STREET
ITHACA, NEW YORK
14850
March 1 , 1978 .
Mr . Peter K . Francese ; Chairman
Zoning Board of Appeals
501 Warren Road
Ithaca , NY 14850
Dear Mr . Francese :
On February 28 , 1978 , the Planning Board of the Town of
Ithaca resolved by unanimous vote of the six members present to
request from the Zoning Board of Appeals an interpretation of
Section 35 of the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance , which reads
as follows :
" SECTION 35 . Business Districts " D " . Permitted uses in
a Business District " D " shall be the following :
1 . Gasoline sales station or garage for repairs , provi -
ded that all servicing of vehicles shall take place on pri -
vate property , and that no repair work , except short - term
emergency repairs , be carried on out - of - doors . Such uses
are subject further to Section 71 and Section 54 . "
( " SECTION 71 . Public Garages and Gasoline Sales Stations .
1 . No part of any building used as a public garage or
gasoline service station and no filling pump , lift or other
service appliance shall be erected within 25 feet of any
Residence District or in any required side yard .
2 . No gasoline or oil pump , no oiling or greasing mecha -
nism and no other service appliance installed in connection
with any gasoline sales station or public garage shall be
within 15 feet of any street line or highway right of way line ,
and when so installed shall not be a violation of front yard
requirements specified elsewhere in this ordinance . " )
( " SECTION 54 . Alterations . No non - conforming building or
use shall be extended except as authorized by the Board of
Appeals . " )
It was noted by the Planning Board members that Section 35
of the Zoning Ordinance appears to differ from the other Business
Districts in that Section 35 seems not to incorporate those uses
delineated in Business " A " , " B " , and " C " whereas the Zoning
Schedule states , apparently erroneously , that any use permitted
in Business " A " , " B " , " C " is permitted in Business " D " . It is
clear that Residential Districts incorporate the uses of one into
the other next restrictive . The Planning Board members recognize
that the Zoning Schedule is described as " For Convenience Only -
Not Official " .
Chairman Peter Francese - 2 - March 1 , 1978
There are two proposals presently before the Planning Board ,
scheduled for continued hearing on March 21 , 1978 , both in the
area of the East Hill Plaza , corner Judd Falls Road and Ellis
Hollow Road , and both involving a self - service gas island com -
bined with another business use . One is proposed for location in
a presently zoned Business " D " District and the other is proposed
for location in a presently zoned Business " C " District . The
owner and developer of the property presently zoned Business " D "
wishes to add a Business " C " use to the already permitted Business
" D " use ; the owner and developer of the property presently zoned
Business " C " wishes to add a Business " D " use to the already per -
mitted Business " C " use .
It was the consensus of the Planning Board that Section 35
was reflective of the period in which it was written , circa . 1960 ,
when gasoline stations encompassed the range of full service , pro -
viding hoists , grease racks , car wash , tire sales and service ,
mechanic ( s ) , etc . , and thereby does not recognize the present - day
self - service gas island in conjunction -with . another commercial use
which has evolved ; apparently as a result of oil companies no
longer supporting . full service facilities .
Upon other occasions when the Planning Board --has asked the
Zoning Board of Appeals for an interpretation - of the - Zoning - Ordi -
nance , the Board of Appeals having expeditiously replied , a
legally advertised public hearing has not been required or held ,
�. only an open general meeting of the Board of Appeals publicized
through the media- -in the usual manner .
The Planning ; Board : -respectfully requests % - that _jthe Board--of
Appea-ls- -,consider - 'this matter at their - earl-i-est = -convenience -: rn
order - .t-hat .the , Planning Board - may . _be in a -- position to consider-
these two proposals scheduled for continued hear-ing on March 21 , -
1978 .
I Sincerely yours
Liese Bronfenbrenner , Chairman
Town of Itha�da Planning Board _.
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cc - Members of the Board of Appeals
Members of the Planning Board
Members of the Town Board
TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
SPECIAL MEETING
MARCH 10 , 1978
A special meeting of the Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals
was held on Friday , March 10 , 1978 , in Town Hall , 126 East Seneca St . ,
( second floor ) , Ithaca , NY , at 5 : 00 p . m .
PRESENT : Chairman Peter Francese , Edward King , Edward Austen ,
Jack Hewett , Joan Reuning , Lawrence Fabbroni ( Building Inspector ) .
• ALSO PRESENT : Mr . and Mrs . Mark Goldfarb , Dan Cummings ( WTKO ) .
The meeting was opened by the Chair at 5 : 10 p . m .
INTERPRETATION OF SECTION 35 , BUSINESS DISTRICTS " D " .
The matter before the Board pertained to a request from the
Planning Board for an interpretation of Section 35 of the Town of
Ithaca Zoning Ordinance , as set forth in . a - letter dated March 1 , 1978 ,
to said Zoning Board . from said Planning Board , as follows :
" On February 28 , 1978 , ' the Planning Board = of the Town of Ithaca
resolved by unanimous vote of the six members present to request from
the Zoning Board of Appeals an interpretation of Section 35 of the
Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance , which reads as follows :
' SECTION 35 . Business Districts " D " . Permitted uses in a
Business District " D " shall be the following :
1 . Gasoline sales station or garage for repairs , provided that
all servicing of vehicles shall- take place on -private property , and
that no repair work , except— short - term emergency repairs , be carried
on out - of - doors . Such uses are subject further to Section 71 and
Section 54 . '
( ' SECTION 71 . Public Garages and Gasoline Sales Stations ,
1 . No part of any building used as a public garage or gasoline
service station and no filling pump , lift or other service appliance
shall be erected within 25 feet of any Residence District or in any
required side yard .
2 . No gasoline or oil pump , no oiling or greasing mechanism and
no other service appliance installed in connection with any gasoline
sales station or public garage shall be within --15 feet of any street
line or highway right of way line , and when so installed shall not be a
violation of front yard requirements specified elsewhere in this
ordinance . ' )
( ' SECTION 54 . Alterations . No non - conforming building or use
shall be extended except as authorized by the Board of Appeals . ' )
It was noted by the Planning Board members that Section 35 of the
Zoning Ordinance appears to differ from the other Business Di.stricts
in that Section 35 seems not to incorporate those uses delineated in
Business " A " , " B " , and " C " whereas the Zoning Schedule states , apparent -
ly erroneously , that any use permitted in Business " A " , " B " , " C " is
Zoning Board of Appeals - 2 - March 10 , 1978
permitted in Business " D " . It is clear that Residential Districts
® incorporate the uses of one into the other next restrictive . The
Planning Board members recognize that the Zoning Schedule is described
as " For Convenience Only - Not Official
There are two proposals presently before the Planning Board ,
scheduled for continued hearing on March 21 , 1978 , both in - the area
of the East Hill Plaza , corner Judd Falls Road and Ellis Hollow Road ,
and both involving a self - service gas island combined with another
business use . One is proposed for location in a presently zoned
Business " D " District and the other is proposed for location in a
presently zoned Business " C " District . The owner and developer of
the property presently zoned Business " D " wishes to add a Business " C "
use to the already permitted Business " D " use ; the owner and developer
of the property presently zoned Business " C " wishes to add a Business
" D " use to the already permitted Business " C " use .
It was the consensus of the Planning Board that Section 35 was
reflective of the period in which it was written , circa . 1960 , when
gasoline stations - encompassed the range- : of full service , - providing.
hoists , grease racks , car wash , _ tire sales: and service , - mechanic ( s ) ,
etc . , and thereby does not recognize the present - day self - service gas
island in conjunction with another commer-cial -use which .- has : evolved ,
apparently as a result of oil companies no longer supporting full
service facilities .
Upon other occasions when the Planning Board has asked the Zoning
Board of Appeals for an interpretation of the Zoning Ordinance , the
Board of Appeals having expeditiously replied , a legally advertised
public hearing hasnotbeen required or held ; - only an open general
meeting of the - Board - of Appeals . publicized through ; the -.media -=in: the
usual - . manner
The -- Planning : _Board :respectfully requests. -that - the' - Board - of - = .
Appeals consider this matter at their earliest convenience in order-
that
rderthat the Planning- Board may be in a position to consider these two
proposals scheduled for continued hearing on March 21 , 1978 . "
After some lengthy - discussion -of the matter before the Board ,
Mr . King stated , and the Board members agreed , that a Business " C "
use and a Business " D " use cannot be together in the same building ,
but could be in separate parcels .
Mr . Fabbroni -- repeated what he thought the Board meant - by . stating
that it is this Board ' - s opinion that - a self - pumping gas _- island -is not
compatible with a Business -" C " use .
Mr . King responded by stating that the ordinance , as written , does
not include " A " , " B " , and " C " as well . Mr . King stated that to him it
is a clear intent that Business " D " is gas station only and nothing
else . The Board members agreed .
Mr . Francese was of the firm opinion that the Ordinance amendment
relating to the S . W . Barnes property wherein both proposals are pro -
posed , that separate parcels need to be created within the Business
" D " zone and appropriate side yard requirements met .
A lengthy discussion of parcel division followed .
• Zoning Board of Appeals - 3 - March 101 1978
Mr . Fabbroni stated that he saw a problem with the site plan pro -
posed by Mr . Goldfarb . He noted that under the requirements of the
Zoning Ordinance , parking is not permitted in the front and side yards .
He then asked - - " What about being in the middle of blacktop ; is it
related ? " He asked further , " Does that apply in a business district
where one zone butts up against another zone ? "
Section 38 of the Zoning Ordinance was cited and reads as follows :
" SECTION 38 . Special Requirements shall be the following :
. . . There shall be no parking in any required front , side or rear
yard . Parking lots shall be surfaced with black - top , stone or other
material that does not produce dust and shall be graded so as to drain
properly . "
Mr . Francese stated , and the Board . members agreed , that front yard
means to him that yard which is alongside a street or another zone other
than business .
Mr . Francese - proceeded to phrase the question before the Board .
Question : - Can - you . -have - a -Business : - " C " use - withi=n : a Business -__"D " zoned -
parcel within - the meaning of the Zoning Ordinance ?
This question was put before the Board and each of the five members
answered " no " .
Answer : No .
Following . .further -lengthy discussion , : -Mr . Francese moved- -- and . Mr .
King seconded :
THAT - the - -failure -to include :_ in Section 35 any _mention _ _of- Business
" A " B " , or " C " uses this Board decides to. be an intentional exclusion
of these uses froma Business " D " zone .
The Chair asked if there were any further discussion and there
being . none , called for a vote resulting as follows :
Aye - Francese , King , Austen , Hewett , Reuning .
Nay - None .
The Chair . declared - the motion carried unanimously . .
Mr . Fabbroni - asked if one piece of land can be zoned Business " C "
and " D " ? Mr . Francese stated , and the Board agreed , that that is
essentially what was done with the Barnes property .
Mr . Francese moved and Mr . King seconded :
THAT the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Ithaca interprets
the Town Board Resolution of September 9 , 1968 amending the Town of
Ithaca Zoning Ordinance by the re - zoning of the S . W . Barnes parcel from
Residence District R - 30 to Business Districts " C " and " D " as stating
that subject to the approval of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board any
part of the 2 . 65 acre parcel ( . 995 acres being presently owned by Mr .
Goldfarb and the balance being in the Shopping Centre portion ) and
Zoning Board of Appeals - 4 - March 10 , 1978
zoned Business " D " which is not approved for use as Business " D " may
be used as Business " C " , and further , that said 2 . 65 acre parcel may
be divided into two or more parcels each to be used in a Business " C "
or " D " manner as the Planning Board shall permit .
The Chair asked if there were any further discussion and there
being none , called for a vote resulting as follows :
Aye - Francese , King , Austen , Hewett , Reuning .
Nay - None .
The Chair declared the motion carried unanimously .
Mr . King moved and Mr . Austen seconded :
THAT the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Ithaca interprets
the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance to say that Business District " D "
uses are not permitted in Business " C " Districts .
The Chair asked - if there - were any further discussion-- and there
being none, called for a vote result-ing as follows :
Aye - -- Francese , - - King ; - . Austen , . Hewett , Reuning . _ _
Nay - None . .
The Chair declared the motion carried unanimously .
ADJOURNMENT
Upon = Motion -the Chair - declared. - :the meeting duly ...adjourned at
6 : 35 . p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary .
L ; Bronfenbrenner
;: Proposed wording for the amendment to the Town of Ithaca zoning
Ordinance to establish a Business -F_ zone :
B -F Zone
? In Business Districts B -F no building shall be erected or extended and
no land or building or part thereof shall be used for other than any
of the following purposes :
1 ) Retail stores necessary to serve the needs of a single neighborhood ,
but not exceeding30 , 000 square feet of building space
Permitted establishments include a
food market of less than 3 , 000 square feet , drug store , bank branch ,
liquor store , offices , appliance store , hardware store , smoke shop ,
dry cleaner , - laundry , florist , beauty shop , . barber , shoe store , tailor ,
dressmaker , optician , or photographer . . . each less than 1 , 500 square
feet . additional retail uses of less than 1 ,500 square feet may be
considered on an individual basis by the Town Board under the pro -
visions of Section 78 of the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ithaca , .
when , in the opinion of the Town Board , the proposed use is essentially
similar to those listed and will not adversely affect the established
character or value of the surrounding property .
2 ) In addition to these customary business structures , there shall also
be permitted within this district combination residence -business struc -
tures , which shall not exceed two - stories and may contain retail sales
_ and customer service establishments of the types set forth in paragraph
1 - of this Sectionincidental to and located within a multiple -family
structure or apartment building , primarily to serve the needs of the
residents of such structure and the neighborhood , provided :
a ) .. . none of such retail sales and consumer service establishments are
located on the same floor as any of the dwelling units ;
b ) . . such retail sales and consumer service establishments have access
from areas which do not serve as common residential , recreational
areas or access ways ;
cl . parking for the residential structures will directly adjoin the
entrance way to said residential structures &
d ) . . the percentagepf combination' residence -business buildings coverage
to land area shall not exceed 17 °ice ;
e ) . . the percentage of coverage of buildings other than combination
residence -business buildings to lc. nd area shall not exceed 25 04 ;
f ) . . the residential part of the residence -business buildings shall
not exceed - - - - - - - square feet in the area .
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3 ) '7In addition to the already applicable sections of the Zoning
Ordinance pertaining to Business Districts , sections 28 and 29 of
said Ordinance urith repect to Multiple Residdnce Districts shall also
be considered by the Planning Board as part of the site plan approval
process .for Combination Residence -Business lbtructures ,
4 ) No building permit shall be issued for a building in a Business -F
district unless a site plan showing the proposed building has b]and
en p�
approved by the Town Board in accordance with the requirements
procedures of Article IX of the zoning ordinance .
EXCERPT from Planning Board Minutes of December 12 , 1977 . - 1 -
PUBLIC HEARING : CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED REZONING OF 30 ACRES OF LAND ,
PRESENTLY ZONED R - 9 , R- 30 , AND BUSINESS " C " , TO A NEW BUSINESS " F "
COMMERCIAL DISTRICT , TAX PARCEL NO . 6 - 43 - 1 - 3 . 2 , DANBY AND KING ROADS
( MONKEMEYER ) .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner opened the Public Hearing in the above -
noted matter at 9 : 02 p . m . and presented the Clerk ' s Affidavit of
Posting and Publication of said Public Hearing Notice on December 1 ,
1977 , and December 2 , 1977 , respectively , together with the Secretary ' s
Affidavit of Service by Mail of said Notice to 25 neighbors of Mr .
Monkemeyer ' s property and Mr . Monkemeyer ,
Chairman Bronfenbrenner stated that the Board should first
discuss the proposed amendment to the Ordinance creating a Business
" F " district .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that he had discussed this amendment further
with Mr . Gersh and they had made a few changes that the Board had not
seen , e . g . , under sub - paragraph " b . " item 35 was changed from Mini -
Warehouse/ Storage Facility to Dance Studio , and under sub - paragraph
" c . " item 1 was changed from Theater , Dance Hall or Dance Studio to
Theater . Items 13 , 14 , 15 , and 16 were added , as follows :
13 . Mini - Warehouse / Storage Facility
14 . Car Wash
15 . Nursery
16 . Those uses specified in ( b . ). above , except that the are limita -
tions for numbers ( 1 . ) and ( 22 . ) shall not apply
In addition , items 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , and 7 were changed by deleting the
words " storage or " . And finally , item 12 was changed from Gasoline
Sales Station and for Garage for Repairs , including Car Wash and
Self - Service or Manned Gas Pumps , provided there shall be only one
such use in the District to Gasoline Sales Station and Garage for
Repairs and Self - Service or Manned Gas Pumps , provided there shall
be only one such use in a District " F " .
Attorney David B . Gersh stated that the intent of Mr . Monkemeyer ' s
proposed amendment to the ordinance is the allowance of a multi - use
somewhat akin to the Ithaca Commons . He stated that the further
modification of their proposed amendment as presented in October 1977
provides for the uses under sub - paragraph " b . " being more restricted
and sub - paragraph " c . " being more expansive . He noted that the goal
under sub - paragraph " b . " is to find compatible uses with residences .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner commented that this further modification
was the result of a joint meeting between the Town Board and the
Planning Board on November 29th where it was felt that items " a . " ,
" b . " and " c . " were awkward . Mrs . Bronfenbrenner stated that the
document presently before this Board replaces the document that was
passed by this Board in October of 1977 and passed on to the Town
Board .
Mr . Sam Peter of Sam Peter ' s TV and Appliances situated at the
same corner as the proposed development, stated that - he thought that
if there ever was an area that needed commercial it is this area . Mr .
Peter asked if a grocery store were included ? Mrs . Bronfenbrenner
stated that there was . Mr . Peter continued and stated that the Mat
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Associates land was rezoned about ten years ago and nothing has ever
been done with it . Mr . Peter stated that he is in favor of everything
that Monkemeyer has proposed . Mr . Peter stated that he is in favor
of more tax dollars . Mr . Peter stated that he did not think that the
Planning Board should be worrying about whether these people can make
a go of it - - that is their problem . Mr . Peter stated that this
South Hill area really needs this commercial development .
Mrs . Beverly Livesay , the Town representative on the Tompkins
County Board of Representatives , stated that in light of what she has
heard tonight , the general concept sounds okay . Mrs . Livesay asked
if there is any limit to the size of this proposed Business " F "
district ?
Mr . Fabbroni read sub - paragraph " a . " of the proposed Business
" F " amendment as follows :
" a . In addition . to customary business structures , there also
shall be permitted within this district combination residence - business
structures , which shall not exceed two - stories and may contain retail
sales and customer service establishments of the types hereafter set
forth in paragraph ( b ) of this Section , incidental to and located
within a multiple - family structure or apartment building , primarily
to serve the needs of the residents of such structure and the neigh -
borhood , provided : ( 1 ) none of such retail sales and consumer service
establishments are located on the same floor as any of the dwelling
units ; ( 2 ) such retail sales and consumer service establishments have
access from areas which do not serve as common residential , recrea -
tional areas or access ways ; ( 3 ) the percentage of combination
resi - ence - business building coverage to land area shall not exceed
seventeen ( 1776 ) per cent ; ( 4 ) the total of all combination residence -
business structures built shall not exceed 30 , 000 square feet in
area ; and ( 5 ) the percentage of coverage of buildings other than
combination residence - business buildings to land area shall not
exceed twenty - five ( 257o ) per cent . "
Mr . Fabbroni noted that this additionally limits the total scope
of the combination residence - business use . He stated that the rest of
the area that may or may not be rezoned would be kind of business " C "
except limited to this use which winds up being just about business
" C " . Mr . Fabbroni commented that part of the problem both Boards saw
was that some business uses do not seem to be compatible with the
residences .
Mr . Monkemeyer pointed out that what is achieved is a tremendous
amount of open space or landscaped area - - a campus - like setting .
At 9 : 26 p . m . Chairman Bronfenbrenner closed the Public Hearing on
the discussion of the proposed amendment to the ordinance .
Mrs . Hoffmann stated that what bothers her is that she now finds
a combination business - residence in an area only commercial whereas
she envisioned commercial surrounded by residential .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner stated that the matter being considered
for a motion is not any kind of specific area but technically this
is referring to a new zone which could be very small . Mrs . Hoffmann
noted that it could also be very large . Mrs . Hoffmann stated that she
thought the Board was discussing the allowing of some commercial with
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residential with residential as the most predominant .
Mr . Monkemeyer stated that this business " F " amendment deals
specifically with commercial allowing residential above .
Mrs . Hoffmann stated that it was her opinion that there are
several uses not necessarily compatible with residential right in
a building .
Mr . Fabbroni pointed out that the further modification of the
proposed amendment as discussed at the joint meeting more or less
took Business " A " " B " " C " and considered what is compatible . Mrs .
Hoffmann thought that there could be one story of commercial with
two residences above . Mr . Fabbroni pointed out that the Board always
has the site plan approval process to go through .
Mr . Mackesey stated that he did not think that in sub - paragraph
it is still restrictive enough so as not to seriously affect
this kind of district .
Mrs . Hoffmann stated that if the Board does allow residential in
a zone like this , it should concern itself with what is nice .
Id Mr . Fabbroni pointed out that when Mr . Monkemeyer comes in for
site plan approval you take note of what is good and bad . Mr .
Fabbroni stated that as they went down through the list of existing
Business " A " , " B " and " C " there were some things additionally not
compatible such as Auto Sales .
Attorney Gersh pointed out that they have added a clear statement
that the normal site plan process as provided in Sections 28 and 29
of the existing ordinance , shall be considered , as follows :
' Id . In addition to the already applicable sections of the
Zoning Ordinance pertaining to Business Districts , sections 28 and
29 of said Ordinance with respect to Multiple Residence Districts
shall also be considered by the Planning Board as a part of the
site plan approval process for Combination Residence - Business
Strctures . "
Mr . Monkemeyer commented that if the Board has any doubts about
compatibility , he would be happy to show them studies from the Urban
Planning Institute .
Mr . Mackesey that he is now of the opinion that basically the
developer and his attorney have come back with exactly what the
Planning Board asked them to come back with in very good form .
MOTION by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner , seconded by Mr . Patrick
Mackesey :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend
and hereby does recommend to the Town Board approval of the proposed
amendment to the Zoning Ordinance presented by Evan Monkemeyer ,
Developer described as Section 35B - Combination Residence - Business
Districts " F " with the additions and deletions described by Mr .
Fabbroni , Town Engineer , and presented to said Planning Board at its
regular meeting of this date , December 12 , 1977 .
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By way of discussion , Mrs . Hoffmann commented to Mr . Monkemeyer
that he had showed the Board a parking plan once and she wondered if
it was to serve both commercial and residential . Mr . Monkemeyer stated
that when he presents the plan there will be separate parking for
commercial and residential .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Hoffmann , Mackesey , Aron , Baker , Stanton .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
At 9 : 38 p . m . Chairman Bronfenbrenner re - opened the Public Hearing ,
as noted , to consider a proposed rezoning of 30 acres of land ,
presently zoned R - 9 , R - 30 , and Business " C " , to a new Business " F "
Commercial District .
Mr . Monkemeyer presented to the Board a site plan for " South
Mountain Center " which he described as more defined and refined than
that previously presented . The site plan shows a " parkway " type
roadway about 600 ' to 800 ' from the intersection off King Road and
Danby Road . The site plan shows a campus - type setting presented by
Skyrise Associates . It shows business park or office park areas . Mr .
Monkemeyer noted that Phase 1 is to be developed first for an office
park outside of the loop ( parkway ) . The site plan shows a shopping
center area inside the loop ( parkway ) which is the combination
residential - commercial . A schematic sketch was presented showing the
combination use to be residential in appearance inside the loop
( parkway ) as noted . The plan shows separate parking for residences .
The proposed restaurant will not have residences above it . Mr .
Monkemeyer pointed out that , the shopping center is in three structures
as shown to form a little cluster . Mr . Monkemeyer noted that he is
a small scale builder . He said that the buildings are designed to be
built one , or two , or all three at a time , as well as completed
parking and access . He commented that the mixed use is good - -
commercial is needed but residential always works . Mr . Monkemeyer
described the bicycle path shown , a proposal he presented some time
ago , as connecting with Ithaca College outside of the loop with an
underpass . The site plan shows the existing buildings known as the
" Art Colony " . Referring to the Business Park , Mr . Monkemeyer stated
that Phase 1 will be made up of a branch bank , a convenience food
market and a family restaurant . Mr . Monkemeyer stated that he plans
to go with this immediately . He stated that he has two tenants that
he is firming up . Mr . Monkemeyer further stated that the business
park - office park will be in a setting of low- rise , one story structures
with a residential look . Mr . Monkemeyer enthusiastically described it
as a great use . He said it will have heavily landscaped parking .
There will be professional - type offices . He stated that the buildings
would look very similar to his " Springwood " development of which he
is very proud . He said there will be no kitchen . Mr . Monkemeyer said
that the remaining areas would be probably most likely for a motel ,
super market . He said the area under discussion contains 29 . 9 acres .
.� Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked how the people from the residential
section move in and have access to heavy things being brought in - -
where does the moving truck go , for example ? Mr . Monkemeyer pointed
out the back - up line in the area of the parking area for the residen -
tial . He said that this is there also for garbage disposal and fire
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safety . Mr . Monkemeyer stated that 200 ' is the maximum distance
from parking to residential .
® Mr . Aron asked if there will be lighting at night ? Mr . Monkemeyer
stated that there will be low lighting at night . He said there will
not be high pylon - type lighting . There will be landscaping lighting .
Mr . Monkemeyer also noted that the first floor will be concrete block
with wood siding . There will be poured concretealso which is for
fire safety ; the upper story will be wood construction .
Mrs . Ruth Peter asked if the only entrance is on Danby Road ?
Mr . Monkemeyer said " no " , there is one on Danby Road and one on King
Road which are the two major accesses . He noted that there is limited
access internally .
Mr . Aron referred to the prime target area - - the three buildings
in the northwest corner of the parcel . He asked what Mr . Monkemeyer ' s
projections are for this development . Mr . Monkemeyer stated that
completion would take from three to five years .
Mrs . Livesay stated that she thinks the overall concept is quite
lovely . She noted one concern that she has , that being how far is
residential from parking , and another concern overall is that we not
have a project sort of beyond the scope of Ithaca .
Mr . Monkemeyer stated that he agrees with Mrs . Livesay completely
that his proposed development not be beyond what is viable for Ithaca .
He stated that his is not a large grandiose plan , he is realistic . Mr .
Monkemeyer also noted that he is not competing , he is complementing .
Mr . Sam Peter stated that he does not think there is anything
wrong with competing . He said he did notthink there is anything
wrong with building something better than!. what exists . Mr . Peter
continued and stated that people try to control businesses by zoning - -
this is wrong - - there is nothing wrong with competing .
Mr . Mackesey responded to Mr . Peter and stated that one of the
Board ' s concerns is that we do not want to end up with another Beacon
Hills , but on the other hand , Mr . Monkemeyer has lived with this
right in his own backyard .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in the matter
of the proposed rezoning of approximately 30 acres at 10 : 05 p . m .
She noted that any resolution must take the form of a recommendation
to the Town Board .
MOTION by Mr . Patrick Mackesey , seconded by Mr . Henry Aron :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend
and hereby does recommend to the Town Board approval of the rezoning
of approximately 30 acres of land , presently zoned R- 9 . R - 30 , and
Business " C " , to a new Business " F " Commercial District , Tax Parcel
No . 6 - 43 - 1 - 3 . 2 , Danby and King Roads , owned by Evan Monkemeyer .
By way of discussion , Mr . Mackesey stated that he wanted to make
sure that Mr . Monkemeyer is going to move the entrance to the " Art
Colony " .
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Mr . Fabbroni stated that he would comment on the Motion that if
the Board does choose to rezone this land as proposed , it should give
consideration to rezoning the land kitty - corner from this parcel
® ( Mat Associates parcel ) . The Board agreed that this should be a
matter for their consideration .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Hoffmann , Mackesey , Aron , Baker , Stanton .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
PUBLIC HEARING : CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED REZONING OF APPROXIMATELY
31 ACRES FROM R- 30 TO R - 15 AS PART OF A CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL ,
TAX PARCEL . NO . 6 - 42 - 1 - 13 . 2 , DANBY ROAD ADJACENT TO ITHACA COLLEGE
LAND ( MONKEMEYER ) .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner opened the Public Hearing in the above -
noted matter at 10 : 08 p . m , and presented the Clerk ' s Affidavit of
Posting and Publication of said Public Hearing Notice on December 1 ,
1977 , and December 2 , 1977 , respectively , together with the Secretary ' s
Affidavit of Service by Mail of said Notice to 25 neighbors of Mr .
Monkemeyer ' s property and Mr . Monkemeyer .
Mr . Monkemeyer stated that he has named this proposed development
" Oak Ridge " . He stated that he did not wish to confuse the Board with
a whole mess of rezonings . He stated that he is a wise builder and
® wishes to be diversified .
Mr . Monkemeyer stated that Oak Ridge is cluster housing , owner -
occupied as well as rental . He stated that it contains 31 acres on
Danby Road and is a part of a large parcel owned by Skyrise Associates .
Access is gained through a lot from Danby Road owned by Skyrise
( Monkemeyer ) : ' He pointed out a bicycle path to Ithaca College and back
to South Mountain Center . There is access to Ithaca College , Mr .
Monkemeyer noted that the density level is 3 . 5 as suggested by Mr .
Fabbroni and one that the Town Board would entertain .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that 3 . 5 / acre is in the limits of density .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that Section 281 of Town Law gives the Planning
Board authority to approve a cluster development . The density would
be no more than if every lot in a traditional subdivision development
were for two - family . Mr . Fabbroni pointed out that 3 . 5 dwelling units
per gross acre is the maximum density for cluster approved by the
Town Board . He noted that 4 . 5 has been discussed at length in
connection with the new ordinance , but it is 3 . 5 right now .
Mr . Monkemeyer stated that in the area adjacent to Ithaca College
the density is the highest with rental ownership ( leased land ) of
property . This area is adjacent to the Ithaca College Football
Stadium . This area will have 14 units per cluster . As you move toward
the center of the parcel and away from the College there will be
10 units per cluster . There will be single family only farther on up .
There will be a maximum of 67 lots in a total of 30 acres . Mr .
Monkemeyer noted that under a conventional plan with 15 , 000 square
foot lots , you are talking about 61 lots . Mr . Monkemeyer noted that
he will thus be providing open space . He stated that there are three
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parts to this plan - - one with four clusters at 14 units per cluster ,
one with three clusters at 10 units per cluster and four single family
® clusters farthest away from the College . Mr . Monkemeyer noted that
generally the preliminary plan shows lower density clusters as you
move away from the Ithaca College football stadium .
With the public in attendance being generally in favor of this
plan , Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in the
matter of the proposed rezoning of approximately 31 acres closed at
10 : 22 p . m .
Mr . Fabbroni stated to the Board that it might be in a position
to rezone for the cluster concept based on the overall density , but
clearly , the Board should understand that we have to go a lot further
with engineering drawings , survey drawings , etc .
Mr . Monkemeyer stated that he understands that thoroughly , but
he needs some sort of idea for future thinking .
Mr . Fabbroni stated further that it has been fairly standard
procedure to approve a rezoning to R - 15 when water and sewer are
available , which it is here .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked at what stage does the developer write
a letter to the Planning Board requesting development under Section 281
cluster ? Mr . Fabbroni stated that it would be appropriate almost any
time now .
MOTION by Mr . Bernard Stanton , seconded by Mr . Henry Aron :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend
and hereby does recomment to the Town Board approval of the rezoning
of approximately 31 acres from R- 30 to R- 15 as part of a cluster
development proposal , Tax Parcel No . 6 - 42 - 1 - 13 . 2 , Danby Road adjacent
to Ithaca College land owned by Evan Monkemeyer .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Hoffmann , Mackesey , Aron , Baker , Stanton .
Nay - None .
The Chair closed this portion of the meeting at 10 : 30 p . m .
Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary .
RECEIVE ®
DEC 1977
TOWN OF ITHACAV
TO : Town of Ithaca Planning Board
FROM : Evan N . Monkemeyer ( David B . Gersh , Attorney )
• DATE : December 5 , 1977
SUBJECT : Proposed Zoning Ordinance Amendments
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As a result of further meetings since the Public Hearing
held on October 4 , 1977 , we propose to further modify the pro -
posed amendments to the Town Zoning Ordinance which were f
recommended to the Town Board for approval ( report of the
Town of Ithaca Planning Board Chairman to Town Board , October
® 101 1977 ) .
~ We request the Planning Board recommend the following
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new section 35B to the Town Board for its approval " and enactment:
" Section 35B - Combination Residence -Business Districts
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a . In addition to customary business structures , there
also shall be permitted within this district combination reside ce -
business structures , which shall not exceed two - stories and may
contain retail sales and customer service establishments of
the types hereafter set forth in paragraph ( b ) of this Section ,
incidental to and located within a multiple - family structure
or apartment building , primarily - to serve the needs of the
residents of such structure and the neighborhood , provided :
( 1 ) none of such retail sales and consumer service establish -
ments are located on the same floor as any of the dwelling unit ;
( 2 ) such retail sales and consumer service establishments have
DAVID B. GERSH access from areas which do not serve as common residential ,
ATTORNEY AT LAW recreational areas or access ways ; ( 3 ) the percentage of
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YORK combination residence -business building coverage to land area
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..so shall not exceed seventeen ( 17 % ) per cent ; ( 4 ) the total o
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all combination residence -business structures built shall
® not exceed 30 , 000 square feet in area ; and ( 5 ) the percentage
of coverage of buildings other than combination residence -
business buildings to land area shall not exceed twenty - five
( 25% ) per cent .
b . Permitted uses in combination residence -business
structures shall be the following .
1 . Retail Food Store , provided that gross floor
area does not exceed 2000 square feet
2 . Business or Professional Offices
3 . Bank or Other Financial Institution
4 . Bookstore
5 . Drugstore
6 . Hardware Store
7 . Package Liquor Store
8 . Smoke Shop
9 . Utilities
"r:O . Barber
11 . Dry Cleaning Pick -Up Station
12 . Florist
13 . Beauty Parlor
14 . Coin -Operated Laundry
15 . Milliner
16 . Greenhouse , but only if attached to a building
17 . Retail Stores
18 . Shoeshiner , Shoemaker , and Repairer
19 . Tailor
20 . Telegraph and Telephone Office
21 . Public or Private Library
22 . Restaurants , including serving 6f liquor ,
provided that the size shall be limited to
3000 square feet and that no residential uses
will be allowed directly above
23 . Appliance Sales
24 . Arts and Crafts Studios
25 . Bicycle Sales and Repair , with outside parking
racks if desired
26 . Caterer
27 . Confectioner
28 . Decorator '
29 . Dressmaker
3j0 . Furrier
DAVID B. GERSH 31 • Optician
ATTORNEY AT LAW 32 . Photographer
, RTH TIOGA ST. 33 . kefrigeratinn Sales
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34 . Upholsterer
35 . Dance Studio
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c . Permitted uses in buildings other than combination
residence -business structures in a Business "F " District shall
be the following , provided that the building shall be located
at least 200 feet from any combination residence -business
structure :
1 . Theater .
2 . Building Products Display and Sales , but
without outside display
3 . Electric Products Display and Sales , but without
outside display
4 . Glass Products Display and Sales , but without
outside display
5 . Solar Heating and Cooling Display Products ,
but without - outside display
6 . Heating Products Display and Sales , but
without outside display
7 . Plumbing Products Display and Sales , but
without outside display
8 . Printer
00 Hotel or Motel
10 . Day Care Center
11 . Athletic and / or Health Club
12 . Gasoline Sales Station and Garage for
Repairs and Self -Service or
Manned Gas Pumps , provided there shall be only
one such use in a District " F "
FDist13 . Mini -Warehouse / Storage Facility
ricts
Jn addition to the already applicable sections of
g Ordinance pertaining to Business Districts , sections
of said Ordinance with respect to Multiple Residence
shall also be considered by the Planning Board as a
he site plan approval process for Combination
-Business Structures . "
n addition , amendments may be appropriate to Sections
36 and 38 ( 7 ) and elsewhere to make reference to the new
Business "F " District .
14 . Car Wash
DAVID S. GERSH 15 . Nursery
ATTORNEY AT LAW 16 . Those uses specified in ( b . ) above , except
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A {- hat, NEW YORK kthe area limitations for numbers ( 1 • )
14950 and ( 22 . ) shal l not apply .
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RECEIVED
DAVID B . GERSH MNK 16 1978
ATTORNEY AT LAW
P. o. BOX 202 TOWN OF ITHACA
300 NORTH TIOGA STREET
ITHACA SAVINGS & LOAN BUILDING ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850 TELEPHONE
(CORNER OF TIOGA AND (607) 277 - 3300
BUFFALO STREETS)
March 14 , 1978
Mrs . Liese . Bronfenbrenner ,
Chairperson
Town of Ithaca Planning Board
126 E . Seneca Street
Ithaca , New York 14850
Re : Evan Monkemeyer
Dear Chairperson Bronfenbrenner :
As you know , at the March 13th public hearing , the Town
Board voted to rezone approximately 31 acres of Mr . Monkemeyer ' s
land from R - 30 to R - 15 as part of a cluster development proposal
(tax parcel #142 - 1 - 13 . 2 ) .
In accordance with Section 281 of the Town Law , I herewith
make written application on Mr . Monkemeyer ' s behalf , as his attorney ,
for the use of the cluster procedure .
Please be so kind as to schedule this matter for the Planning
Board ' s consideration .
We would also like to meet with you again , as suggested by
the Town Board , to review the provisions of the new combination
business - residence district , which we have termed " Business F " .
Please let me know when it would be convenient for Mr .
Monkemeyer and me to meet with your Board once again .
Thank you for your courtesies .
Sincerely ,
David B . Gers
cc : Mr . Evan Monkemeyer
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