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' TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
JUNE 7 , 1977
The Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca met in regular session
on Tuesday , June 7 , 1977 , in the Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street ,
( second floor ) , Ithaca , N . Y . . , at 7 : 30 p . m .
PRESENT : Chairman Liese Bronfenbrenner , Henry Aron , Montgomery May ,
Eva Hoffmann , James Baker , J . W . Reece , Lawrence Fabbroni ( Planning
Engineer/Building Inspector ) .
ALSO PRESENT : Henry Hilker , Willis Hilker , Catherine Valentino ,
Kathy Kaplan ( WHCU ) , John Jarrett ( WTKO ) .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner opened the Meeting at 7 : 33 p . m .
REPORT OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR
Mr . Fabbroni reported that in the month of May three permits for
one - family homes were issued , one permit for a two - family home and
permits for three additions or accessory buildings for a total of
$ 175 , 500 . 00 , as compared with two one - family , one multi - family , and
eight additions for a total of $ 175 , 650 . 00 in May 1976 , Mr . Fabbroni
noted that activity seems to be picking back up with regard to home
construction .
With regard to violations , Mr . Fabbroni stated that they are
continuing their efforts to bring all the signs in the Town into
compliance . He reported that Mr . Bonnell , Assistant to the Engineer ,
is pursuing occupancy violations throughout the Town . He commented
that they are making some progress in this area , if the load on the
Zoning Board of Appeals is any indication .
REPORT OF THE PLANNING ENGINEER
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the new Town Barn is virtually complete .
The men and equipment have moved in as of the 1st of June , 1977 . The new
address is 106 Seven Mile Drive .
With regard to parks , Mr . Fabbroni reported that the proposed DeWitt
Junior High School Park has gone through the Town Board and they have
given their approval to allocating $ 30 , 000 . 00 out of the Capital Reserve
Fund . He noted that there is a maintenance agreement to be worked out
with the City School District . He stated that the City School District
has given general approval for payment of $ 30 , 000 . 00 . He said that
approval from the Village of Cayuga Heights and the Village of Lansing
is being pursued . He noted that the most favorable response has been
from the Village of Cayuga Heights .
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the Town has hired Mrs . Barbara Zimmerman
Restaino for summer _ planning work . Mrs . Restaino has worked on the
DeWitt Junior High School Park , The Town is also participating in a
work- study arrangement with Cornell University and has hired Mr . Stephen
Ossias for summer planning work . Cornell University pays for 80 % of
Mr . Ossias ° salary and the Town for 20 % . It amounts to a $ 200 . 00 expen-
diture for the Town of Ithaca over a ten week period .
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Mr . Fabbroni stated that one of the primary concerns with parks
now will be the preparation of an appendix to the Comprehensive Open
Space Plan that was developed by Ms . Susan Blumenthal . He said that it
is their hope to develop it into a format that is a little more compre -
hensible to the public .
Mr . Fabbroni noted that the Coy Glen Park proposal is a presentable
package at this time . He said that the Town Board is at the stage where
they are able to approach residents to consider how they can carry out
the study ' s objectives .
Mr . Fabbroni also stated that they will be working on taking the
park plans that have now developed and in terms of cost and planning
come up with an implementation scheme .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that they also will be working on developing
the same type of study for Lick Brook that was developed by Dennis
Colliton for Coy Glen .
Referring to the proposed Route 96 improvement project by the
State D . O . T . , Mr . Fabbroni stated that the recommendations endorsed by
the Town Planning Board and the Town Board , i . e . , the combination of
Alternates # 2 and # 3 as proposed by the D . O . T . , have been okayed by the
Paleoentological Institute and the Hospital . He noted that the Planning
and Public Works Committee of the County endorsed the Town ' s recommenda -
tion today . He said that petitions of support were received from the
Townspeople north of the hospital . He noted that the Board of Represen-
tatives is the last step . He stated that they hope to get their approval
next Monday , June 13th , and then send the recommendation on to the State .
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the County Health Department has adopted
changes in health regulations . He noted that the Planning Board members
might want to have certain sections of that new code so that they would
be aware of what the changes are . Mr . Fabbroni outlined that new code
which entails extensive changes in required lot sizes , fire hydrant
requirements plus much more . The most noteworthy change is the
requirement for a 200 ' circle to be superimposed upon a proposed lot
before it may be approved as a lot . This , of course , would mean that
100 ' frontage lots are no longer legal for a new subdivision .
Mr . Aron asked if this new 200 ' circle requirement does indeed apply
to both old and new construction . Mr . Fabbroni stated that this new
requirement applies solely to new construction on new lots .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that both he and Mr . Schwan agree with the
County Health Department ' s objectives but their methods are questionable ,
e . g . , they would question the standards adopted as to required lot size .
There continued a lengthy discussion of the new adopted Code of the
Health Department , its requirements and its effect on the County and the
Town of Ithaca . It was agreed that the Planning Board would like to have
as much information as may be available on this new Code .
® REPORT OF COUNTY PLANNING BOARD REPRESENTATIVE
Mrs . Hoffmann reported that the Minutes of the last County Planning
Board meeting as mailed to the Planning Board members by Mrs . Fuller
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cover what would be her report . She added that she feels that the
Historic Preservation Inventory as proposed by that body is a pretty
good idea . She thought that the Planning Board should have that kind
of knowledge as to what sites may be termed " historic " when they are
considering various approvals .
REPORT OF THE PLANNING BOARD CHAIRMAN
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner reported that the Town Board at its Special
Meeting on May 23 , 1977 , approved the Ivar Jonson multi - family develop ®
ment on Ellis Hollow Road behind the Elderly Housing project .
PUBLIC HEARING : CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED REZONING OF 22 . 22 ACRES FROM
RESIDENCE DISTRICT R- 30 TO RESIDENCE DISTRICT R- 15 ( TAX PARCEL NO .
6 - 61 - 1 - 8 . 1 ) , SUCH LAND BEING BOUNDED ON THE WEST AND NORTH BY CORNELL
UNIVERSITY LANDS , ON THE EAST BY THE TOWN OF DRYDEN , AND ON THE SOUTH
BY SNYDER HILL ROAD ,
Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in the above -
noted matter duly opened at 7 : 56 p . m .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner read the Notice of Public Hearing as published
in the Ithaca Journal on June 2 , 1977 , and presented the Clerk ' s
Affidavit of Posting and Publication and the Secretary ' s Affidavit of
Service by Mail of said Notice of Public Hearing upon the adjacent
neighbors .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner noted that the 22 . 22 acres to be rezoned is
the Hilker Subdivision on Snyder Hill Road and is served by water and
sewer . The Planning Board gave final subdivision approval to this
development on May 4 , 1976 , but neglected to formally institute the
rezoning process , as did the Town Board at the time of such subdivision
approval .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that this was an oversight on the part of the
Planning Board and himself at the time that this land was subdivided .
At the time of the request for subdivision approval and prior to such
approval the land should have gone through the rezoning process at the
Planning Board level and at the Town Board level for rezoning from R- 30
to R- 15 . Mr . Fabbroni noted that it has been a long standing policy
of the Town Board that lands that can be served by water and sewer
should be rezoned from R- 30 to R- 15 following , of course , the proper
public hearings . Mr . Fabbroni stated that he had assumed at the time
that this land had been a part of the Eastern Heights rezoning since
the 22 . 22 acres had been a part of the Eastern Heights area at one time .
He has since determined that this land was not part of the main re -
zoning when Eastern Heights was created , though the land was in the
hands of Eastern Heights before Mr . Hilker purchased it . He commented
that the question came up at the time of closing on the first house
in the Hilker Subdivision to be sold . He noted that the lots are set
out and approved at R- 15 lots and there has been provided 2 . 2 acres of
parkland . Thirteen acres of parkland was given to the Town of Ithaca
by Eastern Heights , Inc . thus settling the issue of the 5 acres required
as part of the Eastern Heights Subdivision sections 1 and 2 and freeing
this same requirement from the Hilker lands in question . Mr . Hilker
then set aside 2 . 2 acres as his 10 % requirement for the 22 . 22 acres
he wished to subdivide .
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Mr . Aron asked if this land is near Mr . Marion ' s property . Mr .
Fabbroni stated that it was not near Marion ' s land at all . Mr . Fabbroni
stated that the acreage in question is the last piece of land on
Snyder Hill Road in the Town of Ithaca .
Mr . Aron stated that he could see no reason why this land should
not be rezoned .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner asked if there were any persons in the audience
who wished to speak either for or against this proposed rezoning . There
were none .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner stated that the Planning Board can only recom-
mend on a rezoning to the Town Board .
MOTION by Mr . Henry Aron , seconded by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner :
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend
and hereby does recommend to the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca
approval of the rezoning of 22 . 22 acres from Residence District R- 30
to Residence District R- 15 , Tax Parcel No . 6 - 61 - 1 - 8 . 1 , such land being
bounded on the West and North by Cornell University lands , on the East
by the Town of Dryden , and on the South by Snyder Hill Road .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Aron , May , Hoffmann , Baker , Reece .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
Chairman Bronfenbrenner declared the Public Hearing in the Hilker
Subdivision rezoning matter duly closed at 8 : 08 p . m .
NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
It was agreed that the Planning Board will meet on June 21 , 1977 ,
at 7 : 30 p . m .
PRESENTATION BY PLANNING BOARD MEMBER J . W . REECE
Mr . Reece stated that he would still like to see the Town Planning
Board get together with the County Planning Department on the proposed
" beltway " , or " circumferential " , or " by-pass " , or " loop " , or whatever
it may be currently called .
Mrs . Bronfenbrenner stated that a Planning Board Committee should
be set up to pursue that matter . Mr . Reece , Mrs . Hoffmann and Mrs .
Bronfenbrenner stated that they would be happy to serve as a Committee
to consult with the County Planning Department .
MOTION by Mr . J . W . Reece , seconded by Mr . James Baker :
• RESOLVED , that a Committee of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board
to be comprised of J . W . Reece , Eva Hoffmann and Liese Bronfenbrenner
set up a meeting with the County Planning Department to establish the
following :
Planning Board - 5 - June 7 , 1977
1 . Preferred routing of the by-pass .
• 2 . Order of priority of development by segments .
3 . Joint approach to Cornell University to discuss design ,
location and implementation of bridge over Fall Creek .
4 . Timing of contact with the City of Ithaca to discuss the
relation of the by-pass extension ' s alleviation of Route
96B ( South Aurora Street ) traffic load .
By way of discussion , it was noted that South Aurora Street
continues to be a very bad traffic artery . It was also noted that
any wind-down around Morse Chain and on to Route 13 seems to pose
very difficult problems . Mr . Reece was hopeful that there could be
a way to get traffic over to Route 79 , perhaps by diverting over
Columbia Street and fixing up the bridge over Giles Street .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote .
Aye - Bronfenbrenner , Aron , May , Hoffmann , Baker , Reece .
Nay - None .
The MOTION was declared to be carried unanimously .
It was agreed that the " By-Pass Committee " will meet on Tuesday ,
• June 14 , 1977 , at 7 : 30 p . m . at Mrs . Bronfenbrenner ' s home at 116
McINtyre Place ,
ADJOURNMENT
Upon Motion , the Meeting was duly adjourned at 8 : 30 p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
Nancy M . Fuller , Secretary .
AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING
TOWN CLERK ' S OFFICE
ITHACA, N . Y.
I , Edward L . Bergen being duly
sworn , say , that I am the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca , Tompkins
County , New York , that the following notice hasbeen duly posted on
the sign board of the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca and that the
notice has been duly published in the local newspaper : ( Ithaca Journal )
Notice of Public Hearing , Town of Ithaca Planning Board , Tuesday , June 7 , 1977 ,
at 7 : 45 P . M . in Town Hall , 126 E . Seneca St . , Ithaca , N . Y . ( second floor ) on :
Consideration of proposed rezoning of 22 . 22 acres from Residence District R- 30
to Residence District R- 15 ( Tax Parcel # 6 - 61 - 1 - 8 . 1 ) , such land being bounded on
the West and North by Cornell University lands , on the East by the Town of
& cation of sign board used for posting : Entrance to Town Offices
Date of Posting : May 31 , 1977
Date of Publication : June 2 , 1977
Edw L . Bergen
Town Clerk
Town of Ithaca
State of New York
County of Tompkins SS .
Town of Ithaca
Sworn to before me this 2nd day of June , 19 77 , •
NOTARY
GERTRUDE He BERGEN �
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_Legal Notice Legal Notice'
.TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING
BOARD — --
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
TUESDAY- JUNE 7, 1977
By direction of the Chairman of the
Planning Board, NOTICE IS HERE-
BY GIVEN that a Public Hearing will
be held by the Planning Board of the
Town of IthacW on Tuesday, June 7,
1977, .in Town Hall, 129 East Seneca
Street (second floor) , Ithaca, N.Y. , at
the following time and on the follow-
ing matter :
• 7 :45 p.m. Consideration of proposed
rezoning of 22.22 acres from
Residence District R-20 to
Residence District R-15
(Tax Parcel No: 881.18.1 ) ,
such land being bounded on
the West and North by
Cornell University lands, on
the East : by the Town of
Dryden', and on the South by
Snyder Hill Road.
Said Planning Board will at said
time and said place hear all persons in
support of such matter or objections
by agent -
thereto. Persons may appear
or in person.
Edward L.,Bergen
Town Clerk
Town of Ithaca '
June 2, '1977
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
TUESDAY , JUNE 7 , 1977
By direction of the Chairman of the Planning Board , NOTICE
IS HEREBY GIVEN that a Public Hearing will be held by the Planning
Board of the Town of Ithaca on Tuesday , June 7 , 1977 , in Town Hall ,
126 East Seneca Street ( second floor ) , Ithaca , N . Y . , at the
following time and on the following matter :
7 : 45 P . M . Consideration of proposed rezoning of 22 . 22 acres
from Residence District R- 30 to Residence District
R- 15 ( Tax Parcel No . 6 - 61 - 1 - 8 . 1 ) , such land being
bounded on the West and North by Cornell University
• lands , on the East by the Town of Dryden , and on the
South by Snyder Hill Road .
Said Planning Board will at said time and said place hear
all persons in support of such matter or objections thereto .
Persons may appear by agent or in person .
Edward L . Bergen
Town Clerk
Town of Ithaca
Dated : May 31 , 1977
Publish : June 2 , 1977
AFFIDAVIT OF SERVICE BY MAIL
STATE OF NEW YORK ) SS :
COUNTY OF TOMPKINS )
Nancy M . Fuller , being duly sworn , deposes and says , that
deponent is not a party to the action , is over 21 years of age
and resides at 316 Turner Place , Ithaca , N . Y .
That on the 2nd day of June , 1977 , deponent served the within
Notice upons
Town Clerk Alain Mauboussin
Town of Dryden 223 Snyder Hill Road
65 E . Main Street Ithaca , N . Y . 14850
Dryden , N . Y . 13053
Ivan C . Burris
Cornell University 111 South Fulton Street
Real Estate Department Ithaca , N . Y . 14850
Day Hall
Ithaca , N . Y . 14850 Eberhard W, rv.and l:Mon ca :- �M . . -Irmler
217 ' ; Snyder :? Hill .
' Road
E . E . Jr . and C . J . Billinghurst Ithaca , N . Y . 14850
102 Skyvue Road
Ithaca , N . Y . 14850 Shirley A . Kemp
215 Snyder Hill Road
Carl L . and Dorothy E . Davis Ithaca , N . Y . 14850
229 Snyder Hill Road
Ithaca , N . Y . 14850
King ' s Lane Co .
P . O . Box 915
Ithaca , N . Y . 14850
By depositing same enclosed in a postpaid addressed wrapper ,
in a post office under the exclusive care and custody of the
United States Post Office Department within the State of New
York .
C�-
Nan y M . FuXler
Sworn to before me this
2nd day of June , 1977 .
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GER'TAUDE H. BERGEN
Notary Public* State of New York
, No. 55.5276725
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TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
iNOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
TUESDAY , JUNE 7 , 1977
By direction of the Chairman of the Planning Board , NOTICE
IS HEREBY GIVEN that a Public Hearing will be held by the Planning
Board of the Town of Ithaca on Tuesday , June 7 , 1977 , in Town Hall ,
126 East Seneca Street ( second floor ) , Ithaca , N . Y . , at the
following time and on the following matter :
7 : 45 P . M . Consideration of proposed rezoning of 22 . 22 acres
from Residence District R- 30 to Residence District
R- 15 ( Tax Parcel No . 6 - 61 - 1 - 8 . 1 ) , such land being
bounded on the West and North by Cornell University
is
lands , on the East by the Town of Dryden , and on the
South by Snyder Hill Road .
Said Planning Board will at said time and said place hear
all persons in support of such matter or objections thereto .
Persons may appear by agent or in person .
Edward L . Bergen
Town Clerk
Town of Ithaca
Dated : May 31 , 1977
Publish : June 2 , 1977
TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD
MAY 41 1976
The Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca met in regular session
on Tuesday ? May 4 , 1976 , in the Town Hall , 126 East Seneca Street ,
( second floor ) , Ithaca , N . Y . , at 7 : 30 p . m .
PRESENT : Chairwoman Barbara Holcomb , Robert Christianson , Liese
Bronfenbrenner , Richard Black , Daniel Baker , Sam Slack , Lawrence
Fabbroni ( Planning Engineer/Building Inspector ) , Robert Bonnell
(Assistant to the Engineer ) .
ABSENT and EXCUSED * Maurice Harris ,
ALSO PRESENT : Mr . Stewart Knowlton , Mr . Stephen Brouwer , Mr .
Scott Heyman , Mr . Willis Hilker , Mr . Evan Monkemeyer , Mr . Maurice
Dusky , Mr . Walter Schlaepfer , Mr . Leo Oakes , Mrs . Eva Hoffmann ,
Miss Elyse Gellerman (WTKO ) .
Chairwoman Holcomb opened the Meeting at 7 : 37 p . m .
REP69T OF THE $dILDING INSPECTOR
Mr ► Fabbroni reported that in the month of April he issued 16
building permits , 9 for new homes and 7 for accessory type structures ,
swimn►ing pools , etc . , for a total of $ 311 , 500 . 00 . This was compared
to last year when 6 permits were issued for a total of $ 117 , 250 . 00 .
• PUBLIC HEARING * CONSIDERATION OF FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR
SNYDER HILL ROAD SUBDIVISION - WILLIS S . HILKER .
Mrs . Holcomb declared the Public Hearing in the above-noted
matter duly opened at 7 : 50 p . m . and presented the Town Clerk ' s Affida-
vit of Posting and Publication .
Mr . Hilker presented Engineer ' s Survey Map titled Subdivision Plat
Plan , scaled and closed , of lands of Hilker Construction Co . on Snyder
Hill Road , dated May 3 , 1976 , and signed by Howard R . Schlieder , RLS ,
Mr . Hilker stated that tax map numbers have been assigned and the
square footages of each lot has been calculated . Mr . Hilker noted that
Tompkins County Health Department approval has not as yet been received
on the first phase - 21 lots . The total plan calls for 43 lots to be
developed .
Mrs . Holcomb noted that there was some discussion at the prelimi-
nary hearing about drainage , specifically sub- surface drains along the
Dryden Town line . Mr . Hilker stated that the sub- surface drain will be
put in in phases before the lots are sold .
Mr . Fabbroni stated that if this subdivision plan is to receive
final approval there 'should be a stipulation that the drainage area is
going to be cut off at the drainage ditch in front of homes bordering
the Town of Dryden Line , Mr . Hilker commented that there may be a pro-
blem because of grade . He said that he may have to cut the drainage
area off across the road . He stated that he will have to discuss the
matter further with Mr . Fabbroni , but there will be a balanced flow
achieved . He said to the Board that it was his opinion that they will
rind that a lot of water presently draining down from Dryden will be
cut off .
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Mr . Hilker commented further that when he constructs the rear
ditch along the Town line it will stop the water from flowing through
• the ground ,
Mr . Fabbroni stated in the final grading , they will just follow
what are self -evident practices to have the water flow away from the
houses . Basically , this will mean having the drainage run along the
lot lines or the street .
Mr . Slack asked what the Town is envisioning as the future for
Snyder Hill Road . He stated that the Town better start thinking about
doing something on that road in terms of condition , traffic , improve -
ment , and what-have-you . He noted that there is development in the
Town of Dryden also . He said that something has to be done about what
goes on that hill .
Mr . Christianson stated that it was his opinion that this whole
question has to relate to a county-wide plan . Mr . Slack commented tha•�
we have all the Towns acting independently in the meantime and so some -
body has to start the ball rolling . Mr . Fabbroni spoke in terms of
long-range planning . There are some severe safety hazards in the Town
of Ithaca . This project could be included in a five-yeas timetable .
Mr . Black commented that you get the people up there and then you
finally solve the problems . Mr . Fabbroni noted that this is what has
happened to Forest Home ,
Mrs . Eva Hoffmann asked for clarification of the subdivision plan
being discussed at this Public Hearing , Mrs . Holcomb stated that this
hearing is a consideration of final subdivision approval for Mr .
Hilker ' s subdivision on land located in the Eastern Heights Subdivision
to be developed at 43 single or two family residences . The present
proposal is for Phase 1 consisting of 21 lots .
Mr . Hilker noted that about 30 lots have been deleted from the
original subdivision plan for Eastern Heights ,
Mr . Fabbroni stated that from a traffic point of view , the hazards
that are attendant- to Snyder -Hill Road that we- are all familiar with
are geometric problems , deep ditches , crown of road , etc . , and to a
certain degree affect the traffic load that the road can take . He
commented , however , that when you talk about 21 lots , you talk about
minimally increasing the traffic load around 120 cars a day and in the
long run ( 43 lots ) about 240 a day . i
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Mr . Slack pointed out that nothing has been done by the Town to
help out on this road yet and it has been at least five years .
Mrs . Holcomb asked if there might be a motion from Mr . Slack in
this regard .
MOTION by Mr . Sam Slack ,
RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca propose
• Lnd hereby does propose that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca
seriously consider what improvements said Town of Ithaca is going to
make in Snyder Hill Road before granting approval to future and
further development in the - Town of Ithaca in the Snyder Hill Road
^evelopment area .
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Mrs . Holcomb asked if Mr . Slack meant by this Motion that there
should be no approval of this subdivision presently being heard or no
further approvals after this particular development . Mr . Slack stated
that he did not want to hold up a development prior to anything being
done by the Town , but that he would like to see the Town do something
about the Road simultaneously with this development .
Mr . Black. cominented that actually what Mr . Slack wanted to see
was Snyder Hill Road on the Town Board AGenda , Mr . Slack stated that he
has seen many people in the ditch up there . He said that he does not
think that this is a way for a Planning Board to operate . He said the
Town must help people get up and down this road . Mrs . Holcomb stated
that she would like Mr . Slack to tell her very specifically , prior to
any resolution from this Board on Mr . Hilker ' s Subdivision , what dir-
ection he is propounding , or , does he wish the Planning Board to make
a strong resolution to the Town Board to improve Snyder Hill Road ,
Mr . Christianson stated that he thought that they are two separate
issues . Mrs . Holcomb said that they are related though . Mr . Christian-
son said that he agreed with Mr . Slack that something has got to be
done soon with the conditions on Snyder Hill Road . He stated that a
strong resolution that he would be most happy to endorse would be that
prime consideration be given to the possibility of overburdening of
this area . Let us consider the . Road as a prime Town function and then
consider the subdivision as a natural extension of the development of
the area in. order . that ( 1 ) there is no inhibiting of a sound proposal
for development and ( 2 ) that there is no letting that proposal for
development further compound the problem . He said that it is thus a
prime consideration to consider the Road and itsimprovement .
Mr . Slack stated that he must see some concurrent consideration by
the Town as to development and roads ; he does not think we can justify
any other sort of planning .
Mrs . Brorifenbrenner commented that perhaps Mr . Slack would make
his -proposal even - without - the subdivision proposal before the Board .
Mr . Slack said that he certainly would .
Mrs . Eva Hoffmann stated that she lives on Sugar Bush Lane and
noted that there will be many more problems with increased traffic .
Mrs . Holcomb stated that she would like to amend Mr . Slack ' s
Motion to add a timetable for the improvement of Snyder Hill Road to
guide the Planning Board in future consideration of approvals for
residential areas in this neighborhood .
The amended Motion was seconded by Mrs . Liese Bronfenbrenner .
Mr . Pabbroni noted that this question has come up at the Town
Board and at this point it is pretty much up to him ( Mr . . Fabbroni ) to
come up with an over-abl picture for Town road improvements . From his
own time constraints , it will be about August before there will even be
a list . He again commented that for the problem at hand it is not so
much the number of cars as it is the physical layout or geometries .
There being no further discussion , the MOTION was put to a vote .
Holcomb , Christianson , Bronfenbrenner , Black , Slack , Baker .
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Nay - None .
The Chair declared the MOTION carried unanimously .
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MOTION by Mrs . Barbara Holcomb , seconded by Mr . Robert Christianso;
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RESOLVED , that the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca grant and
hereby does grant condqtional final subdivision approval to the Snyder f
Hill Road Subdivision , known as " Haven Hills " , to be developed by
Willis S . Hilker . Such conditional final subdivision approval is for
21 lots to be developed as Phase 1 of a total of 43 lots . The condi - E
tions of this approval are :
1 . That the water and sewer system for said 21 lots shall be approved
by the Tompkins County Health Department .
2 . That there be a transfer of land on the south side of Snyder Hill i
Road to the Town of Ithaca from which no less than 7 acres will be
designated as parkland in Eastern Heights . j
3 . That those items discussed by this Board with regard to drainage
ditch and buried tile and the details of bringing storm water across j
Snyder Hill Road will be worked out between Mr . Hilker and the Town
Engineer , Mr . Fabbroni , to the satisfaction of the Town Engineer .
There being no further discussion , the Chair called for a vote ,
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Aye - Holcomb , Christianson , Bronfenbrenner , Black , Baker , Slack . if
Nay - None . f
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The Chair declared the MOTION carried unanimously .
Mrs . Holcomb stated that until the conditions are met there will
be no signature stamp of Planning Board approval on the plan . ! !
Chairwoman Holcomb declared the Public Hearing on the Willis if
Hilker subdivision on Snyder Hill Road duly closed at 8 : 20 p . m . ' !
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PUBLIC HEARING : CONSIDERATION OF FINAL APPROVAL FOR PHASE # 2 LONGHOUSE � !
COOPERATIVE , -INC . , . ELM - STREET EXTENSION .
Chairwoman Holcomb declared the Public Hearing in the above-noted
matter duly opened at 8 : 21 p . m . Mrs . Holcomb presented for the record
the Town Clerk ' s Affidavit of Posting and Publication of said Public
Hearing . f
Mr . Stephen Brouwer presented a revised site plan for Longhouse
Cooperative , Inc . dated April 27 , 1976 , and drawn by T . G . Miller . He
noted that there is a slight plan change in that Mr . Joseph Visalli of
the Tompkins County Health Dept , has required a community water supply
rather than separate wells for each building as previously indicated .
Mr . Brouwer stated that from their first well they will be pumping to
a storage tank , and that when all the buildings ( 4 in all ) are up the
Health Department would then want Longhouse to drill a second well as
back-up . Mr . Brouwer noted that one building known as Stage 4 has r
een moved from the northeast corner down about 80 ' from the east lot
line and well back from the Elm Street Extension , Mr . Brouwer said
that site 3 as shown on the plan is the second building being built and
z. _: the one being requested for final approval at this public hearing .
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