HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB Minutes 1973-02-06 TOWN OF ITIIACA PLANNING BOARD
February 6 , 1973
A regular meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board was held
on Tuesday , February 6 , 1973 , in the Town Offices at 108 East Green
Street , Ithaca ,. New York , at 7 * 30 p . m .
PRESENT ,: Chairwoman Barbara Holcomb , Daniel Baker , Jack Lowe ,
Arnold Albrecht , Peter Francese ( Planning Consultant ) , Ken Kroohs
( Planning Consultant ) , Miss Sandy McCullough ( Planning Student ) and
Miss Kay Burgunder ( Planning Student ) .
ABSENT : Maurice Harris , Robert Christianson , Sam Slack , Robert
Scannell .
ALSO PRESENT : Mr . Herbert 14ahr .
Mrs . Holcomb called the meeting to order at 7030 p . m .
INTERSECTION . OF HONNESS LANE AND SLATERVILLE ROAD ,
Mrs . Holcomb and Mr . Kroohs went by car to the intersection of
Honness Lane and Slaterville - Road to test it for visibility . They
found that the visibility is over 500 feet . However , the stop sign is
set back and if you stop there you cannot see . Mr . Kroohs suggested
, that the Town paint a white line where it would be best to stop and
also that the Town request the State Department of Transportation to
cut back the bank ,
SPEED LIMIT FOR HONNESS LANE ,
Mr . Lowe inquired about the speed limit signs that had been
okayed by the State for Honness Lane and Snyder Hill Road and when
they will be going up . Mr . Kroohs will check with the Highway
Superintendent .
REQUEST FROM ZONING OFFICER FOP. A DECISION ON A REQUEST FOR A NON-
CONFORMING SIGN FOR KENNIL14ORTH ASSOC . FOR THE ITHACA PLAZA ON JUDD
FALLS ROAD , .
Mr . Cowan was unable to be present at this meeting so in his
place the Secretary presented a request from Cayuga Signs for per-
mission to erect a sign which advertises property for sale or lease at
the Ithaca Plaza on land leased by Kennilworth Assoc . It was noted
that the Sign Ordinance does not permit signs of this nature that are
larger than six sq . ft . The request is for a sign approximately 20
sq . ft . After discussion , it was agreed that Mrs . Holcomb would talk
with the renresentative from Cayuga Signs , Inc . , and inform him of the
regulations within the Sign Ordinance ,
PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE - - INTENT .
Mr . Francese had the Intent prepared and the members of the
• Planning Board went over the wording page by page , The first zone to
be discussed was the Agricultural Zone , Page 6 , of the Intent .
Mrs . Holcomb noted that Mr . Hopkins wants his land to be
included in the Agricultural Zone , and discussion was held . There was
Town of Ithaca Planning Board - 2 -
February 6 , 1973 /
also continued discussion of the Perry Farm on Trumansburg Road .
After considerable discussion of the wording in the Intent
regarding the Agricultural Zone , Mr . Francese stated that he felt that
if the Planning Board wants the Agricultural District- - Mr . Baker
corrected him to say Agricultural Zone throughout the Intent - to be
weak , then they should do so , but , if that is not the intent of the
Planning Board , then they should look to strengthening the wording for
that Zone .
Mr . Kroohs displayed the County Planning Office map that they
are developing showing viable lands for Agricultural .
Mrs . Holcomb felt that there are two intents here ,
1 . Keep good farm land in farming .
2 . We lc.now that some of these lands will not remain in farming
for a long period of time but by planning them in the
Agricultural 'Lone , we will be alerted to the fact that
these parcels are now changing character since the owner
must request rezoning to develop his Agricultural land :
Mr . Francese noted also that if an area that is zoned agricul -
tural is requested to be rezoned to residential then that rezoning
must be tied to a plan : Discussion of the wording continued and
several changes were made ,
•' The next section of ,, theroposed I
the section entitled ` °Residence° , Page 2ntent to be d iscussed was
With regard to the question of zoning by density ; i , e , , using
percentages , there has been much research done by Misses McCullough
and Burgunder . They stated that there are no court cases that they
can find which refer to this concept of zoning by percentages of
density . They also could find no reference to any place where this
has been done before . Mr . Francese did not think that it has been
done . Misses McCullough and Burgunder could see no reason why it
cannot be done . There followed considerable discussion of how to
approach getting a figure for total density. Mr . Francese outlined
his thinking in detail calling it in essence a staging effect . There
should be a set proportion which should be maintained at all times .
finish . Now , discussion began on the netire Intent from start to
In the section of the Intent called Business Districts - on Page
5 it was Mr . Francese ' s opinion that there is enough commercial area
in the Town of Ithaca . A lengthy discussion followed and the entire
section was rewritten .
Planned Unit Development , Page 4 , was now discussed . After all
• viewpoints were aired , it was decided that Mr . Francese would rewrite
this section completely . It is to be noted , however , that Planned
Residential Development which differs frog Planned Unit Development
needs to have a description of its own someplace .
Town of Ithaca Planning Board - 3 - February 6 , 1973
The . section in the Intent entitled Industrial on Page 5 was
discussed . A d.Eew word changes were made .
The section on Cluster Residences on Page 3 was looked at .
There was some discussion of the requirement of the present existing
Zoning Ordinance that buildings be no more than two stories high .
The Planning Board now reviewed the section on Mobile Home Park
Districts on Page � . After discussion , it was decided to put in a
reason why there are no individual mobile homes in any area .
The section on Multiple P�esidence Districts , Page 4 , was not
discussed .
It is to be noted that the Intent as presented by Mr . Francese
for this meetin„ is attached to the official copy of the Minutes of
this meeting with the various changes marked upon it ; The Official
Minutes are filed in the ToTwm Office .
Mrs . Holcomb adjourned the meeting at 10 : 00 p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
Nancy M. . Fuller , Secretary .