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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB Minutes 1972-03-14 TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD March 14 , 1972 A special working meeting of the Town of Ithaca Planning Board was held on Tuesday , March 14 , 1972 , at 7 : 30 p . m . in the Town of Ithaca Offices , 108 E . Green Street , Ithaca , New York , PRESENT ° Chairman Barbara Holcomb , Dan Baker , Robert Scannell , Arnold Albrecht , Robert Christianson , Fred Scott , Sam Slack , Peter Francese ( Planning Consultant ) . ABSENT : Maurice Harris . SCHICKEL RE - ZONING . Mrs . Holcomb brought the members of the Planning Board up to date on the proposed re - zoning of the Schickel property on Honness Lane. This was a request for a multiple housing development . Mr . Francese pointed out that different types of zoning would mean differing density . For example , Mr . Schickel . is proposing 150 units on 15 acres , multiple housing allows more than this , R - 15 less . What Mr . Schickel wishes to construct is best described as somewhat like a condominium , except that the dweller Actually owns the build - ing in which he lives , half of the dividing wall and the ground under his home , Mr . Francese stated that Mr . Schickel would like to bring in a written plan to the Planning Board with a request for re - zoning on the basis of his written proposal but subject to the approval of the maps and plans when he has them . Mr . Francese reminded the Planning Board that the - proposed County Highway Plan for a major by - pass would go right through the middle of this project . Mrs . Holcomb recalled that the last time Mr . Schickel was in to discuss his proposals with the Planning Board , he was talking about condominiums in the $ 30 , 000 . 00 to $ 40 , 000 . 00 range which raises the question - - Does this community need 150 units of 30 to 40 thousand dollar housing ? A discussion followed with the notation being made that there does not seem to be anything in the present Zoning Ordinance that would prevent Mr . Schickel from selling these units . As on, re - cap Mr . Francese stated that the proposal is that Mr . Schickel .requests that this land be re - zoned to multiple housing , R - 10 . The uni_ Its will be built only subject to approvalo the Planning board and Town Board . If there should be any problems and the land just Nits there , then it can be requested by any individual that the .land be re - zoned back to the original R - 15 . NOTE : A Public Hearing would have to be scheduled and held to re - zone back to R - 15 . Mr . Schickel will be coming to the Planning Board Meeting on the 21st of March . The Planning Board could then hold a Public Hearing on the 4th of April , 1972 . HONNESS LANE - SLATERVILLE ROAD INTERSECTION . Mrs . Holcomb asked that the Minutes record a NOTE to remind the Planning Board to look at the Honness Lane - Slaterville Road intersection . . - 2 - Town of Ithaca. PlanningBoard March 14 , 1972 SIGN ORDINANCE . Mr . Francese announced that the Sign Ordinance is now finished and up to the legal standards set by the Town Attorney , The Public Hearing will be April 10th , 1972 . PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE . The P1a.nning Board now commenced to discuss the suggestions and comments of the people at the Hearings on the proposed Zoning Ordinance , A copy of the work sheet is attached hereto . A . MOBILE HOME PARKS , Mr . Christianson offered an argument for a Floating Zone , There followed a. lengthy discussion of the pros and cons , The existing Mobile Home Park on Seven Mile Drive was then discussed , Can it be expanded ? Mrs . Holcomb led a discussion about other areas that could be zoned for Mobile Homes , e . g . , near the Hospital . How about three smaller placer ? As a possible approach , Mr . Christianson said that perhaps the Planning Board could go to the various Civic Associations and ask them where they would like to see a Mobile Home Park , The Planning Board, discussed again in more detail the South Hill site for Mobile Home Zoning , They spoke of size , numbers of units , etc , A MOTION was made by Mr . Christianson , Due to a lack of adequate study and information , we feel it would be arbitrary and capricious to designate any specific loca - tions in the Town of Ithaca now and forever Mobile Home Parks , therefore , we strongly recommend that the Zoning Ordinance make general provision for the establishment of Mobile Home Parks with each application to be considered on its own merits . Further ; that the Zoning; Ordinance should contain specific guidelines for consideration of Mobile Home Park applications , such as maximum and minimum numbers , traffic flow , green belts , water and sewer , recreation facilities , etc . Seconded by Mr . Scannell , No further discussion . A vote was taken with 5 in favour and 2 abstentions , A discussion followed as to where the Planning Board should go from here , Mrs , Holcomb suggested that a. working meeting should be set up with the Town Board . B . TAXATION ON MOBILE HOME PARKS , Mrs , Holcomb will follow up the question of taxing Mobile Home Parks with Don Franklin and the Assessment Department , C . EXISTING MOBILE HOME PARK , Mrs , Holcomb asked - - would you be agreeable , if the Floating Zone passes , that in the designation of Zones , we caused the present Town of Ithaca, Planning Board March 1 + , 1972 Mobile Home Park to be viewed as a legal use ? The Board felt this could be done, only if it met the guidelines we would set up for the establishment of a Mobile Home Park , DESIGNATION OF P - 1 AREAS . With reference to Item J on the Work Sheet and particularly with regard to Coy Glen , Mr . David Cowan , Zoning Officer , spoke in favour of zoning this desirable park area as P - 1 . He reminded the Planning Board of the results of the Gravel Co . suit whereby the Gravel Co . must not expand after 1984 . He felt that a P - 1 designation might keep them from expanding from another point of view . The Lick Brook area was then discussed , particularly size . A MOTION was made by Mr . Baker : That the Town Planning Board designate the Coy Glen area and the Lick Brook area as P - 1 on the Zoning Map . Secondee. by Mr . Slack , Unopposed . Next the Planning Board looked at a proposed area just past the old Airport on Ta. ughannock Blvd . It was found that this area is in the City of Ithaca . • COMMERCIAL AREA ON WEST HILL . Mrs . Hol . omb posed one more question for this meeting . That the Planning Board think seriously about expanding the commercial area on West Hill . Think about the concept of the Planning Board for five neighbourhoods . What about an area across the Highway from the Hospital ? This idea ties in with Mr . Va. sse ' s proposal for a connecting road between West Haven Road and Bundy Road . Another point - - at some time Trumansburg Road ( Route 96 ) will be relocated below the Hospital and Trumansburg Road will go back to an interior road . There is a need for more business area . PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE - A FURTHER NOTE , Mrs . Holcomb wished the Planning Board to- think about the following as it: relates to . future planning , Mr . Schickel , etc . If we do not get the Zoning Ordinance done and ready for July , it might, as well wait until the Fall . Therefore , we should either set a time limit by June , or leave it for the Fall . Dis - cussion followed . The Board decided to go ahead and finish it up now . There would be public informational meetings in May and June , during July and August Mr . Francese would work with Mr . Buyoucous , . the Town Attorney , and final public hearing would be held in Septem - ^�� ber . The meeting was adjourned at 10 : 30 p . m . Respectfully submitted , Nancy M . Fuller , Act . -Sec .