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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB Minutes 1971-12-21 S : '1 _• TOWN OF ITHACA PLANNING BOARD December 21 , 1971 The regular meeting of the Town of Ithaca PlanningiBoard was held on Tuesday , December 21 , 1971 , at 7 : 00 p . m . in the Town of Ithaca Offices , 108 E . Green Street , Ithaca , New York . PRESENT : Chairman Barbara Holcomb , Arnold Albrecht , , Fred Scott , Robert Scannell , Robert Christianson , Jack Lowe , and Peter Francese ( Planning Consultant ) . Approval of minutes from the last meeting were postponed until the January meeting . There was no report from the Park Council . Mrs . Holcomb reported on the meeting of the County Planning Coalition . This is a service organization made up of economic , social , and physical planners of the county which will meet once a month to discuss various aspects of planning . • PROPOSAL_ TO ESTABLISH BICYCLE PATHS : Robert Scannell presented a proposal prepared by some of his students to establish a network of bicycle paths throughout the Town and City . Such a system would hopefully be financed partly by federal and partly by local governments . The paths , as presented on a map of Ithaca , are designed to lead to node locations . Mr . Scannell reported that the students are through with this project now , and it is necessary for some group - t•o pick up the proposal ; perhaps a subcommittee of the Park Council . It was also reported that before this proposal can progress any further , it will be necessary to distribute some literature and a map of the proposed routes . Mr . Scannell asked the Planning Board to donate some money for this purpose . Peter Francese volunteered to take care of getting the map reduced . Jack Lowe made a motion that the Planning Board authorize Peter Francese to take care of reducing and reproducing the pro . posed bicycle path map at an appropriate scale , cost ;&not to exceed $ 150 . 00 . The motion was seconded by Fred Scott , and unanimously passed . Fred Scott made a motion that the Board send a letter of thanks to Scannell ' s students who worked on this project . The motion was seconded by Robert Christianson , and unanimously passed . - 2 - . PUBLIC HEARING - FINAL APPROVAL OF HILKER SUBDIVISION : A public hearing for final approval of Mr . Willis Hilker ' s 11 lot subdivision known as South Hill Estates located in the vicinity of Coddington Road and Northview Road on South Hill was held at 7 : 30 p . m . Discussion was held , and Mr . Hilker reported that he cannot get approval from the Health Department until the city gives him permission to tie in to the city water system . Mrs . Holcomb pointed out that Mr . Hilker would also have to have the County Assessment Department assign lot numbers to his proposal before final approval could be given . House numbers also need to be assigned starting with the 200 series . Mr . Hilker will maintain the present even - odd numbering system that currently exists on Northview Rd . Robert Christianson made a motion that the Planning Board give final approval to the South Hill Estates Subdivision of 11 lots contingent upon the following conditions . ( 1 ) that approval is obtained from the Health Department and that both water and sewer is available ; • ( 2 ) the lack of availability of water and sewer would preclude further development ; ( 3 ) lot number one is a few feet less than the requirements , but in total fits well with the plan ; ( 4 ) house numbers must be assigned starting with the 200 series and maintaining the present even - odd distribution that currently exists on Northview Rd . ; and ( 5 ) lot numbers shall be assigned by the Assessment Department . Robert Scannell seconded the motion , and it was unanimously carried . The public hearing was closed at 8 : 00 p . m . FINAL PLAN APPROVAL FOR MONKEMEYER PROPOSAL : Discussion was held concerning the final plan approval for a 111 unit multiple residence district on East King Road owned by Mr . Evan Monkemeyer . Peter Francese reported that the Monkemeyers have acquired an additional lot to the east of their proposal and now propose to move the whole development approximately 30 or 40 feet to the east . This will still meet all side and front yard requi rements . It was reported that the Mr . Monkemeyer had not come to any definite agreement with Miss Sharon Staz , neighbor to the proposed development , concerning her well and the possibility of Mr . Monkemeyer connecting Miss Staz to his water line . Mr . Monkemeyer had agreed at the Town Board meeting that he would consider it his moral obligation to replace Miss Staz ' well if his excavation caused any damage to her well or water supply . Attorney for Sharon Staz reported that the well is supplied with spring water , and any construction will probably interfere with the water source . Since it is only approximately 45 feet from the proposed water line to the Staz property , it is pro - posed by Miss Staz that Mr . Monkemeyer extend the water line an additional 45 feet to allow her hook up to the line . Robert Scannell made a motion that we table this proposal until such time as both clients have come to a mutual agreement concerning the water . There was no second to the motion . A substitute motion was made by Barbara Holcomb stating that a discussion was again held at this meeting concerning the resolution of the water supply problem between Mr . Monkemeyer and Miss Staz , with reference to the minutes of the October 19 , 1971 meeting of the Planning Board in which there was a verbal agree - ment between the two parties . The Planning Board strongly urges ® that the two parties spend every effort to reach an agreement concerning the water supply prior to submittal of the proposal to the Town Board . The motion was seconded by Robert Scannell . Fred Scott , Arnold Albrecht , Robert Scannel , and Barbara Holcomb voted in favor of the motion . Jack Lowe and Robert Christianson were opposed . The motion was carried by a vote of 4 to 2 . Letters were submitted to the Board from the New York State Transportation Department and the Tompkins County Highway Depart - ment stating that the state and county had no objections to Mr . Monkemeyer ' s proposal to deepen and clean out the ditch on his property . The County reported they had no objections to the driveway location ( curb cuts ) . A letter was also submitted from Mr . Edward Whitlock stating he had no objections to Mr . Monkemeyer ' s proposal to deepen and clean out the ditch which runs through Mr . Whitlock ' s property . Concerning a proper buffer zone , Mr . Scannell recommended the use of either douglas firs 5 to 8 feet high with 12 " centers or scotch pines 5 to 8 feet high with 20 inch centers to be faced with a supplementary single row of tall hedge on 18 inch centers . This planting strip shall commence 30 ' from the road right - of - way on the east boundary of Miss Staz ' property continuing to the southeast corner of the Staz property , thence westerly to the ® west boundary of the Staz property , making a total of 325 ' of hedge row . - 4 - Robert Christianson made a motion that the Planning Board approves and recommends to the Town Board that the site plan dated 12 / 21 / 11 for the Skyrise Associates development be given final approval by the Town Board with the following additional recommendations : ( 1 ) that the buffer zone consists of either douglas firs 5 to 8 feet high with 12 " centers or scotch pines 5 to 8 feet high with 20 " centers to be faced with a supple - mentary single row of tall hedge on 18 " centers ; that the planting strip commences 30 ' from the road right - of - way on the east boundary of the Staz property continuing to the southeast corner of the Staz property , thence westerly to the west boundary of the Staz property , for a total of 325 ' of hedge row ; ( 2 ) that it also be understood that the creek bed running through the Monkemeyer property and the Whitlock property shall be cleaned out , and the cleaning out of the creek bed includes the deepening of the bed to a proper level . This is agreeable to Mr . Whitlock . The Planning Board is in possession of letters from the New York State Department of Transportation and the Tompkins County Highway Department and Mr . E . Whitlock stating that they have no objections to this creek being cleaned out ; ( 3 ) that the plantings bordering the four entrance roads shall not be closer than 30 ' from the road right - of - way of King Road East . The motion was seconded by Robert Scannell , and unanimously approved . MOBIL 0 :[ L COMPANY PROPOSAL : Mr . Pezzicara of the Mobil Oil Company presented a proposal to construct a service station on the corner of Judd Falls Road and Ellis Hollow Road . This property was rezoned to Business D about two years specifically for the purpose of having a service station in this area . The proposed station would be a two bay station of brick structure , with 2 pump -islands and 3 curb cuts - - one onto Ellis Hollow Road and 2 onto Judd Falls Road . There would be a turning illuminated sign saying " Mobil " . The station will be able to hook up to sewer and water , and will be topsoiled for grass . Mr . Herbert Mahr , 103 Judd Falls Road , stated that he is opposed to such a proposal , since he does not feel it is in the best interest of the Town at this time . He stated that the traffic at this intersection is very heavy and this would add to the danger . Further , this will then mean heavy oil and gas trucks would be coming through this area . Mr . Mahr also stated that he did not feel there was a need for such a structure here at the present time ., and therefore felt it was not in the best interest of the Town . Mr . David Cassel , 152 Pine Tree Road , stated he is also opposed to the proposed structure . He pointed out that there currently exists a Mobil station approximately four blocks from - 5 - . the proposed site of development . Mr . Pezzicara replied that their company feels this is an entirely different location , and would be very beneficial to have a service station within the vicinity of the shopping center . Mary Carmichael , 122 Pine Tree Road , stated that she would be opposed to such a structure at least until the speed limit along this road was reduced and a stop sign put up . Because of the lateness of time , Mrs . Holcomb closed the discussion and postponed action of this proposal until the next meeting which will be on January 4 , 1972 . INFORMATIONAL MEETING ON PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE : A second public informational meeting on the proposed new zoning ordinance was held . Peter Francese briefly explained the purpose of the new ordinance and outlined some of the changes that are being proposed . Mr . Waltzer Wiggens recommended that his property on Danby Road south of King Rd . ( approximately 70 acres ) be rezoned . Under the current proposed ordinance , his land is bounded on the north by multiple residence and the south by mobile homes . He feels it would be unreal to believe he can reasonably develop his land considering what zones border his property . Therefore , he would recommend that his property be rezoned to part R - 5 and part commercial . Mr . Phillips proposed the following changes be made in wording : pg . 5 , change the following words - - corn , herds , small storage sheds ; pg . 6 , last paragraph , delete " suitable " ; pg . 105 change " adequately screened " to be more specific . Mr . Phillips also recommended that Peter Francese check with the County Extension Service concerning the agricultural zoning . He also questioned how the zoning ordinance would handle double mobil homes . Mr . Francese reported that these are not considered to be mobil homes . Mr . Richard Berggren requested that his property on the corner of Coddington Road and Danby Road be rezoned A for light industrial use . Mr . David Cassel made a recommendation that on pg . 9 , under Business B . change the word " planned " to " under construction " . ADJOURNMENT : The meeting was adjourned at 10 : 00 p . m . Respectfully submitted , Charlene Lawson , Secretary