HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB Minutes 1974-06-17TOWN OP ITHACA
SPECIAL BOARD MEETING
June 17, 1974 - 7;00 poltio
At a special meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca, Tomp-
^ kins County, New York, held at the Town of Ithaca Offices at 108 East
Green Street, Ithaca, New York, on the 17th day Of June, 1974, at
n 7:00 p,m., there were
PRESENT; Walter J. Schwan, Sufiervisot
Andrew V7. McElwee, councilman
Noel Desch, Councilman
Robert N. Powers, Councilman
ABSENT; Victor Del Rosso, Councilman
ALSO PRESENT; Barbara Holcomb, Plailnihg Board Chairwoman
Reynolds Metz, Zohing Officer
David W. Cowan
Gerald Messmer, N. Y, State Electric & Gas
Corporation
The Supervisor called the meeting to order at 7;05 p.m.
MERCURY VAPOR LIGHTING FOR THREE LIGHTING DISTRICTS
RENWICK HEIGHTS, FOREST H0t4E, GLENSIDE
A discussion was held in re the proposal by New York State
Electric & Gas Corporation to replace the existing incandescent fix-
1 tures in the above-named lighting districts with mercury vapor fix
tures at the following increase in costs per year;
^ (a) Renwick Heights - $27,22
(b) Forest Home 47.80
(c) Glenside" 35.92
Mr. Powers wondered why this proposal had been turned down
by the Board when it was first presented. f4r. Schwan and Mr. McElwee
stated that it was because of the color of the lights. Mr. Messmer
stated that the new lights which would be installed are not bluish-
green, but have a reddish tone.
There was a brief discussion of the lasting quality of the
mercury vapor lights. The present incandescent lighting will have
to be replaced in the near future, because the cost of maintaining
them is increasing.
Mr, McElwee stated that he did not care for mercury vapor
lights at all, whatever color.
Motion by Supervisor Schwan; seconded by Councilman Desch,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca authorize and
* hereby does authorize the New York State Electric & Gas Corporation
( I to change the existing lighting in the Renwick Heights Lighting Dis-
trict, the Forest Home Lighting District and the Glenside Lighting
District from incandescent to mercury vapor.
There followed a brief discussion of the contract with New
York State Electric & Gas Corporation whereupon the Supervisor called
for a vote;
Supervisor Schwan, voting aye.
Councilman Desch, voting aye.
Councilman Powers, voting aye.
Councilman McElwee, abstaining.
The Supervisor declared the motion carried.
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Supervisor Schwan informed Mr, Messmer that the Town Clerk
will send him a letter of authorization.
FIRE PROTECTION CONTRACT WITH CITY OF ITHACA
Mr. Schwan pointed out that a sum of $25,000 should be added
to the figure of $840,000 which is the amount paid by the City of
Ithaca for its fire system. The $25,000 is for the services of a
fire coordinator which is required and had not been included in the
compilation of figures presented at previous Board meetings.
Supervisor Schwan stated that he had been in conference with
Mr. Ned Boice of the Caytiga Heights Fire Department and he indicated
that fire trucks are running around $130,000 to $160,000 each and
that pumpers are ^nning around $50,000 to $65,000 each. A ladder
truck and two engines would be needed in Mr. Boice's opinion for each
station on each of the three hills. They also discussed the relative
merits of a volunteer force. Mr. Boice felt that 50 to 60 volunteers
are needed per station to be effective. The State requires 24 one-
hour training sessions per man per year and Cayuga Heights Fire De
partment is having difficulty getting twelvo men out to a fire. It
was Mr. Boice's firm opinion that it would not be economically feas
ible for the Town of Ithaca to create its own fire department on a
volunteer basis at this time. He felt that a contract with the City
of Ithaca for $100,000 is a bargain, per year.
Supervisor Schwan suggested that the Town could send out .
coxirtesy fire bills to Cornell University, Ithaca College, the County
Hospital,lOOF and even the schools.
Supervisor Schwan said that he would talk to City officials
again to see if it can be determined what their 10-year.prognosis is.
They are presently heading for a million dollar budget for fire pro
tection. It would be nice to know what that budget will be in 10
years. He felt that they will have to take some responsibility for
holding the line. The salary rate right now, including medical, re
tirement and social security is $770,000 per year.
Mr. Powers pointed out that the bulk of their increases have
been m^dated by someone else other than just the City officials,
e.g. Fire Underwriters, If we ask them to commit themselves on a
ten-year basis, we should commit ourselves too. Supervisor Schwan
noted that we cannot contract on a ten-year basis anyway according to
Town Law, only on a five-year basis. Councilman Desch felt that there
could be no signing of any contracts on a five-year basis without in-
depth forecasting study. Councilman Powers wondered if there is any
way the City can guess any better than we can. Councilman Desch felt
that they can since they have the data. Councilman Desch felt that
it was important for the Town to determine just what kind of service
we expect to give our citizens.
Supervisor Schwan also pointed out that the City of Ithaca
has not told us where their volunteers are coming from and it was ^
his opinion that they are coming in bulk from the Town of Ithaca
r people.
^ Councilman McElwee suggested that Supervisor Schwan talk to
Charles Weaver, City Fire Chief. Supervisor Schwan did not agree.
He thought that he should talk to the Underwriters. To him, the
costs are not germain until you find whether the volunteer effort
will work or not.
Councilman Desch suggested that Supervisor Schwan should try
to obtain a copy of the Fire Labor contract with the City of Ithaca.
Supervisor Schwan said that he would tiry. It was finally determined
that Supervisor Schwan will set up a meeting with the City of Ithaca
officials in this matter.
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WATER AT BOYNTON JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL
Supervisor Schwan said that Boynton Junior High School is
hooked to the City water line on North Cayuga Street o They pay only
the surcharge in the aunouht of $690,84 (approximately) a year. The
school is hooked to the Renwick Heights Sewer District.
The question is whether or not to hook them up to the Town
water system now or when Bolton Point is on the line. They have 99.8
units. The income generated from hooking them up would bes
99.8 units x $23,00 = $2,295,00
99,8 units x $25.00 = $2,495.00 (Bolton Point)
$4,790.00
It will cost $12,000 to $15,000 to hook them up.
Councilman McElWee wafe in favor of just plugging them in as
part of the over-all system. Supervisor Schwan said that the decision
should be made soon enough so that Lozier Engineers, Inc. can go ahead
and design the system for inclusion with Bolton Point, It was gener
ally agreed to tell Lozier to go ahead and design it.
PROPOSED LOCATION OF TOWN HALL IN CLINTON HOUSE
Barbara Holcomb, Planning Board Chairwoman, presented a
letter to the Board from Historic Ithaca dated June 17, 1974, with
a new proposal for the Town to rent the second floor of the Clinton
House. The new proposal is for an annual rental of $7,500 ($2.50 per
sq. ft.) and an assumption by the Town of the cost for renovations of
approximately $45,300. The lease would be for 10 years.
Councilman McElwee felt that the area would need central air-
conditioning. He noted that it would be quiet. He thought parking
might be a little difficult. Councilman Powers thought parking would
be no more difficult than where the Town Offices are now located. Mr.
McElwee felt that Mrs. Holcomb's suggestion of having Historic Ithaca
renovate the office space at their expense per o\ir specifications and
then pay the higher rent of $3.50 per sq. ft. with a pre-payment of
$40,000, for example, is the best approach to take.
Mrs. Holcomb felt that the shell rent rate of $2.50 is the
lowest figure they will accept. She also felt that the $45,300 reno
vation figure is their highest estimate with everything of super qua
lity such as full carpeting at $8.00 per sq, ft, and all sorts of con
tingencies built in. She pointed out that they maintain that the
second floor does not need full air-conditioning. She felt from
having visited the* building several times that it was very cool with
out any air-conditioning at all. The cross ventilation is vastly
superior to our present quarters.
It was decided that Supervisor Schwan and Councilmen Desch
and Powers will visit the Clinton House in the very near future.
^ ADJOURNMENT
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The special meeting was adjourned at 7s45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted.
Nancy M. Fuller,
Acting-Secretary