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TOWN OP ITHACA
ADJOURNED BOARD MEfeTlNG
April 16, 1973 - 5:00 p.m.
At an Adjourned Meeting of^ the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca,
Tompkins County, New Yofk> held at the Town of Ithaca Offices at
108 East Green Street, Ithfeica, New York, on the l6th day of April,
1973, at 5:00 p.m., there were
PRESENT: Walter J. Schwan^ Supervisor
Andrew W. M6Elwee, Councilman
Noel Desch, Councilman
Victor Dei Hosso, Councilman
Robert N. Powers3 Councilman
ALSO PRESENT: James Vi Buyoucos, Town Attorney
Kenneth Kfoohs, Town Engineer-Planner
Norbert Schickel (Eastwood Commons)
John W. MacDonald, Attorney (for Mr. Schickel)
Mr. and Mrs. Montgomery May
Mrs. Catherine Valentino
Carol Pay
David Stoith, Realtor
EASTWOOD COMMONS DEVELOPMENT
SCHICKEL ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT COMPANY
As requested by the Town Board, Mr. Schickel presented revised
drainage plans (Town of Ithaca Map File 382) for the proposed East
wood Commons development. He indicated on the plans the volume and
Zf water flow at various locations on the site^ He saidthe figures used are very conservative and are based on a 50-year
storm, an extreme condition which may never happen.
Councilman Desch said he would like to review the drainage plans
on the site with Mr. Kroohs, Town Engineer-Planner. Councilman
Del Rosso asked if the Town had written to the State with regard
"the ditch on Slaterville Road. Supervisor Schwan said
the Town only has a verbal commitment from Mr. Shannon, Regional
Director of the Department of Transi^ortation, that the ditch would
be deepened. Councilman McElwee wondered how long Phase I of the
Schickel proposal would take. Mr. Schickel said he hoped to com
plete it this Pall. Councilman Desch expressed concern with regard
to possible silting on the City*s watershed, and said this should be
guarded against.
After the Town Board had finished with a review of the revised
drainage plans presented by Mr. Schickel, the Town Attorney recom
mended that no final approval be given to the drainage plans as
presently submitted. The Town Board, however, was inclined to
approve the general concept of the plan submitted, and, accoi-clirigl.y
took the following action:
Motion by Councilman McElwee; seconded by Supervisor Schwan,
RESOLVED, that the Ithaca Town Board approves the concept of the
drainage pleui submitted by Mr. Schickel for the Eastwood Commons
development in which 48^ of the drainage will go to the stream to
the north of the property, 28$^ to the property of Montgomery May,
and 2k% down Harwick-Honness Lane, and that the design to carry
into effect the foregoing concept shall be approved in each Instance
by the person designated by the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca.
Unanimously carried.
Mr. Schickel indicated that the final detailed drainage plan would
be designed to accomplish the intent of the foregoing resolution,
which detailed drainage plan would require Board approval.
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Mr. Schickel noted briefly that Eastwood Commons would require an
additional street light in Phase I, and Would eventually need to
form a lighting district for the development.
Mr. Schickel noted that the Tompkins Cotinty Health Department had
requested a letter from the Town of Ithaca to the effect that water
and sewer connections for the Eastwood Commons development will be
available from the Town*s allotment from the City of Ithaca.
EASTWOOD COMMONS RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION
RULES AND REGULATIONS - BY-LAWS - CERTIPICATE
OF INCORPORATION
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Mr. Schickel had requested that the Town Board delete the require
ment of the Board that the rules and regulations of the Eastwood
Commons residents association be approved by the Town Board. Council-
man McElwee felt the Town Board had no reason to concern itself with
the rules and regulations" of the Eastwood Commons residents associ
ation. Councilman Powers agreed that the Town should not generally
be involved but should retain the option to be involved should it
deem it necessary. Mr. Schickel said he felt it was an erosibn of
liberty and loss of autonomy for the Residents association to have,
to have their internal rules and regulations stpproved by the Towh
Board. Councilman Desch wondered how a member of the residents or
homeowners association would know what his responsibilities are. Mr.
Schickel said each home purchaser would get an offering statement,
a plan approved by the Attorney General of the State of New York,
pie offering statement will contain the by-laws and certificate of
incorporation. It Will have a complete description of all rights
and obligations of each homeowner to the nth degree. It will be
comparable to a prospectus, a full disclosure proposition. Mr.
Schickel also had before the Board the Certificate of Incorporation
and the By-Laws of the Eastwood Commons Residents Association, Inc.
to be considered for approval. Town Attorney Buyoucos said he wanted
it noted for the record that the Town Board did not have to approve
the By-Laws. Mr. Schickel noted that the By-Laws and Certificate of
presented had already been approved by the FHA and that
if it were necessary to change them in any way it would involve con
siderable delay in having them approved once again by the FHA.
Discussion to this point led to the following action:
Motion by Supervisor Schwan^ seconded by Councilman McElwee,
RESOLVED, that the resolution adopted by the Town Board of the Town
of Ithaca on February 26, 1973, establishing a multiple residence
district and cluster development therein on property of Schickel
Environmental Development Company on Honness Lane, Town of Ithaca,
New York, and amended at a public hearing on April 9, 1973, held
for the purpose of such amendment, and the meeting of April 9, 1973
having been adjourned until April 16, 1973^ is further amended as
follows:
Delete from Paragraph ^(B)(3)(a) in the second sentence the
words shall contain a provision that no by-laws or any rules or
regulations" and insert in said sentence between the words "shall"
and "be" the word "not", so that the sentence shall read as follows:
The by-laws of such association shall not be deemed to be effective
unless the Town Board approves the same, but the Town Board may from
time to time waive the requirement of approval".
The Town Clerk is directed to publish this resolution in
the Ithaca Journal and the foregoing resolution shall constitute
an amendment to the ordinance amending the Town of Ithaca Zoning
Ordinance, enacted February 26, 1973^ and shall take effect 10 days
after the publication thereof pursuant to Section 264 of the Town
Law.
The resolution was duly adopted, after the Board had been polled as
follows: Supervisor Schwan, Aye; Councilman McElwee, Aye; Council
man Del Rosso> Aye; Councilman Desch, Nay; Councilman Powers, Nay,
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There was further discussion of the by-laws and the certificate of
incorporation. Town Attorney Buyoucos suggested that the Board
might waive the requirement for approval of the by-laws and the
certificate of incorporation. Councilman Del Rosso wondered what
advantage the Board derived from waiving approval rather than simply
approving them. Town Attorney Buyoucos explained it was merely the
difference between an affirmative action which would indicate satis
faction with the by-laws and the certificate of incorporation in all
respects and an action taken possibly for convenience or expedience.
. approval was a less positive action and an action which might
indicate something less than wholehearted approval. This discussion
led to the following actioni
Motion by Councilman Powers; seconded by Councilman Del Rosso,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca waives the
requirement of approval of the by-laws and certificate of incorpora
tion of the Eastwood Commons residents association, as contained in
paragraph ^(B)(3)(a) of the resolution adopted by the Town Board on
February 26, 1973 with respect to the establishment of a multiple
residence district and Cluster development therein on the property
of Schickel Environmental Development Company on Honness Lane.
The Town Clerk is directed to publish this resolution in the Ithaca
Journal and the foregoing resolution shall constitute an amendment
to the ordinance amending the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance, enac
ted February 26, 1973> and Shall take effect 10 days after the publi
cation thereof pursuant to Section 264 of the Town Law.
This resolution was duly adopted. Councilman Desch voting in the
negative.
WILLIAMS OLEN ROAD ATO CAMPBELL AVENUE
•Supervisor Schwan asked for permission to hire a surveyor to deter-
Hnine the metes and bounds of Williams Glen Road and Campbell Avenue
so that a deed may be prepared for the Town to accept them as town
roads and do the work which is required on them.
Motion by Councilman McElwee; seconded by Councilman Powers,
RESOLVED, that the Supervisor of the Town of Ithaca is hereby
authorized to hire a surveyor to determine the metes and bounds
of Williams Glen Road and Campbell Avenue so that a deed may be
prepared for the Town to formally accept these roads.
Unanimously carried.
EARK AND RECREATION MINI-CONFERENCES
3N SYRACUSE, NEW YORK
IMotion by Councilman McElwee; seconded by Councilman Desch,
IRESOLVED, that Mrs. Catherine Valentino is hereby authorized to
•attend the Park and Recreation mini-conferences in Syracuse^ Uew
Tork, on May 24, 1973^ as a representative of the Town of
expenses to be paid by the Town of Ithaca.
Unanimously carried.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 6;20 p.m. to April 23, 1973 at 5:00
p.m.
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Town Clerk