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TOWN OP ITHACA
REGULAR MEETING
June 12, 1972
At a Regular Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca, Tompkins
County, New York, held at the Town of Ithaca Offices at 108 East Green
Street, Ithaca, New York, on the 12th day of June, 1972, at 5:00 p.m.,
there were
PRESENT: Walter J. Schwan, Supervisor
Andrew Wi McElwee, Councilman
Noel Desch,: Councilman
Victor D61 Rosso, Councilman
Robert N* Powers, Councilman
ALSO PRESENT: James V. Buyoucos, Attorney
David W. Cowan, Zoning Officer
Marion Morey, Highway Superintendent
Anthony Ceracche, Ceracche Television Corp.
Walter J. Wiggins
Mrs. Catherine Valentino
Mrs. Beverly Livesay
Vincent Franciamone
Arthur A. Berkey
Herbert Mahr
Vihay Ambegaokar
Members of Radio, TV, and Press
The meeting was called to order at 5:15 p.m.
Herbert Mahr of Forest Home asked if he might put some questions to
the Board before the meeting got too far along. The Board agreed and
Mr. Mahr put the following questions:
1. Did the Town Board yet have an estimate of the cost of the
sewer for Forest Home?
Supervisor Schwan said the Board hopes to have same
by July 1.
2. What is the status of the Forest Home By-Pass?
Supervisor Schwan said the money to do the engineering
design was not appropriated since the Town did not
want to do an engineering design of a piece of land
it might not get from Cornell University. It appears
that the County questions the need for the project
and is waiting for the results of a traffic analysis
before taking any action.
3- When does the Board discuss the Budget for next year?
Supervisor Schwan said this would be done the first
week in October.
What happened with regard to the State abandoning Rt. 392?
Supervisor Schwan advised him all the paper work has
been done by the Town and this matter is now in the
hands of the State of New York. They have advised
they will proceed with the repairs to the bridges.
5. Why does the Town Board meet at 5:00 p.m.?
Supervisor Schwan said the Board used to meet at
4:00 p.m., and that the time was changed to 5200
pm to make it easier for people to get to the meet
ings. Since meetings for the last two years have
been running to 3 and 4 hours, a later starting time
such as 7:30 p.m. or 8:00 p.m. does not seem practical.
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Arthur Berkey suggested the Board might consider having a question
and answer period. The Board appeared to be amenable to a question
and answer period toward the end of the meeting,
PUBLIC HEARING - WATER AMD SEWER SURCHARGE
Proof of posting and publication having been presented, the hearing
was opened at 5:30 p,m;
Supervisor Schwan explained that the purpose of the hearing is to
establish a water and sewer surcharge on the water bills of the water
users in the Town of Ithaca to false funds necessary to operate and
maintain the water and sewer system. The system includes seven pump
stations, associated valves and electrical equipment, telemetering,
etc. Another part of the expense is the $75.00 a year per hydrant
which the Town pays to the City of Ithaca, The total amount to be
raised is about $30,000 annually*
Town Attorney Buyoucos fead generally from prepared material with
regard to sewer surcharge and indicated that a similar document for
water would be forthcoming at a subsequent meeting. On questioning
from Arthur Berkey, Mr. Buyoucos made it clear that there would be
a further hearing on this matter. The sewer ordinance (proposed)
read by Mr, Buyoucos provided the following general items:
(1) Who shall pay such sewer rents and other
charges, including penalties and interest.
(2) Procedure on failure to pay,
(3) Imposition of additional charge or surcharge
upon said rents, surcharge to be 2^ of the net
water bill payable, but not less than $1.00,
(4) Surcharge to be paid semi-annually,
(5) Penalty of 5^ if payment made within 30 days
of due date; or 10^ if payment is made after
30 days from the due date.
(6) Rents and rates provided for to apply beginning
January 1, 1972,
It was explained that the forthcoming proposed ordinance for water
surcharge would be about the same except that the surcharge on the
net water bills for water would be 15^ Mr. Berkey objected that
a public hearing was being held without sufficient printed informa
tion being made available to the public on what he termed a compli
cated matter. Mr. Buyoucos explained that there would be another
public hearing and that it was intended that there would be another
public hearing when all the ordinances were properly drawn and that
the material would be made available before any final steps were tak
en.
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There was discussion about whom the bills should be sent. It appeared
that It would be best to send the bill to the person in whose name
the meter is registered. In the long run, however, should the bill
not be paid the eventual responsibility for payment would rest with
the property owner.
The discussion was terminated at 6:10 p.m.
Supervisor Schwan; seconded by Councilman Powers,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca will hold a public
hearing on July 10, I972 at 5:30 p.m. for the purpose of considering
he adoption of ordinandes establishing and regulating water rates
and sewer rents and for surcharges thereto for the payment of manage
ment, operation, maintenance and fepair of municipal water and sewer
sysb3ms•
Unanimously carried.
The Town Clerk was instructed to have notice of the public hearing
posted and published in the usual manner.
PUBLIC HEARING - CERACCHE TBLEVISioN CORPORATION
REQUEST FOR REVISION OP THE PRAIjfCHISE AGREEMENT WITH
THE TOWN OP ITHACA
Proof of posting and publication having been presented. Supervisor
Schwan opened the hearing at 6:4o p.m.
Walter J. Wiggins, Attorney, appearing on behalf of Ceracche Television
Corporation, submitted to the Board a computer print-out of the names
and addresses of all cable subscribers in the Town of Ithaca. He noted
that Ceracche Television Corporation had been making a mistake with
regard to the students in Cornell quarters. This would add a certain
number of subscribers and dollars over a period of three years, when
corrected. Mr, Wiggins said he would furnish exact figures. Super
visor Schwan thanked Mr, Wiggins for bringing this to the Board's
attention.
In regard to information requested with respect to percentage of
profit, Mr. Wiggins indicated that for the fiscal year April 30, 1971
(the last full year available) the profit was 5•235^. With the increases
granted by the City of Ithaca and if the other townships and the Town
of Ithaca approve their rate request the profit would be 7.2$^. Upon
questioning, Mr. Wiggins indicated that Ceracche Television Corpora
tion does a gross business in the Town of Ithaca of about $100,000.00.
Mrs, Catherine Valentino repeated a request made at earlier Town Board
meetings, that the Ceracche Television Corporation publish their rates,
since she felt there is some confusion in the minds of many people
about charges for hook-ups and re-hook-ups. Mr. Wiggins indicated the
company would be happy to do this. Mrs. Valentino said the franchise
did not make it clear whether there was a reduced charge
of $10.00 for installation when there was a transfer from the Town to
the City or other municipality. Mr. Ceracche said a transfer charge
would be $10.00 no mater where it was transferred to and that they
would revise the franchise agreement to make this clear.
No other persons wishing to be heard. Supervisor Schwan closed the
hearing and said he would entertain a motion from the Board to either
approve of or disapprove of the request for revision of the franchise
agreement.
Motion by Councilman Powers; seconded by Councilman McElwee,
RESOLVED, that the application of Ceracche Television Corporation
for a revision in the franchise agreement as presented and as docu
mented in the minutes of the Board meeting of May 8, 1972 be granted.
Unanimously carried.
TOWN OF ITHACA •
ELECTION INSPECTORS - REPUBLICAN - ALTERNATES
Patricia May
1036 Hanshaw Road
257-2893
Louise Adams
125 Remington Road
272-1324
Marian 6iliespie
116 Warwick
Ithaca, N.Y.
257-0924
Edith Weatherby
208 Texas Lane
257-2410
Mrs. Richard Curran
135 N. Sunset Drive
ELECTION ]} JrORS - REPUBLICAN - (Term ending June 30, - } ^^7^DISTRICTPOLLING PLACENAMEADDRESSPHONE1Tompkins County HospitalNurses Recreation RoomClara R. BartholfEdith Ellis967 Taughannock Blvd.1216 Trumansburg Road273-6824272-34852Vehicle Maintenance 81dg.150 Bostv/ick RoadDoris VanAllenGertrude Emerson130 West Haven Road505 Elm St. Ext.273-6021272-34913National Cash Register Co.CafeteriaMargaret AlbrechtFlorence Hanson143 Northview Roadno Morthview Road272-2342272-16444Riley Robb HallJudd Falls RoadHazel BakerMary Jones651 Five Mile Drive150 Honness Lane272-5884273-25385Cayuga HeightsFire StationVelma MarkwardtCharlotte Blye203 Blackstone Avenue356 Warren Road257-1076257-14726Northeast SchoolMilbrey HanselFrances Bruckner1039 Hanshaw Road1018 Hanshaw Road257-2899257-05737Cayuga Heights SchoolMildred ChaneyVeda Thayer310 N. Geneva Street424 Klinewoods Road273-6832273-05648Community Service Ctr.1701 N. Cayuga St.(USNR Ctr.)Marjorie HoughDoris Parmele237 Renwick Drive101 East Shore Drive272-6741273-35329Northeast School1Agnes StantonFrance!ia Earle1 Renwick Place1318 Hanshaw Road272-3073257-1878
TOWN OF ITHACA
ELECTION INSPECTORS - DEMOCRAT - ALTERNATES
Mrs. Charles Hurl but
1019 Trumansburg Road
272-5340
Ruth Pearson
832 Coddington Road
272-8018
Clara Golay
109 N.Sunset
Susan Fine
246 Renwick Drive
Marsha P. Plovnick
600 Warren Road
Liese Bronfenbrenner
116 McIntyre Place
David A. Singer
432 Winthrop Drive
Lorraine McCue
101 Regency Lane
Bill Goldsmith
11 The Byway
Jean M. Anderson
603 Elm Street
273-5543
1ELECTIOM INSPECTORS - DEMOCRAT(Term ending June 30, 1973)1DISTRICTPOLLING PLACENAMEADDRESSPHONE1Tompkins County HospitalNurses Recreatiom RoomMargaret SmithElaine Lazar553 Elm Street108 Woolf Lane272-2761272-29972Vehicle Maintenance Bldg.150 Bostwick Road,Leora TripodiMary Mullenhoff567 Elm Street118 West Haven Road273-5816273-55733National Cash Register Co.Cafeteri aGertrude GrayHelen Meek115 Ridgecrest Road4 Eagles Head RoadEllis Hollow273-6776539-72244Riley Robb Hall -Judd Falls RoadHelen Sundell1022 Hanshaw Road310 Forest Home Drive257-2532257-09415Cayuga HeightsFire Station.Irene HomaMartha Hanshaw .176 Pleasant Grove Road346 Warren Road257-0364257-05106Northeast SchoolEmma Zeilic1316 Hanshaw Road257-0749Shirley Gates104 Texas Lane257-17427Cayuga Heights SchoolNealy Neigh207 N. Triphamner Road257-1565Margaret Burns105 Kay Street257-08078USNR CenterCommunity Service1701 N. Cayuga St.Frederica Kaven.Elinor Eberts520 Wyckoff Road230 Renwick Drive273-6463273-93439Northeast SchoolDiana Dworsky8 Winthrop Place257-0995Vivian Singer432 Winthrop Drive257-0971
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EIGHT INCH SEWER MAINS IN SUBDIVISIONS
Supervisor Schwan reconiinended "fchat "the Town Board consider requiring
8 inch mains in all future subdivisions and explained the advantages
of doing so. He said it Would pyramid the Town's pumping capability
at no increase in cost; the fire flow from 8 inch mains would be far
superior to the 6 inch mains; the systems would be more then in accord
ance with the overall plan of Lozier Engineers who use 8 inch mains
as a minimum.
Motion by Supervisor Schwan; seconded by Councilman Powers,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board establishes for the Town of Ithaca a
policy that the minimum size of water and sewer mains in new sub
divisions in the Town of Ithaca shall be eight inches.
Unanimously carried.
APPOIHTMEMT OF ELECTION INSPECTORS
The Town Clerk presented a list of Republican and Democrat election
inspectors, as approved by the party chairmen of the Republican and
Democrat parties, for the Board's approval.
Motion by Supervisor Schwan; seconded by Councilman Powers,
RESOLVED, that the list of Republican and Democrat election inspectors,
as presented by the Town Clerk, and as approved by the party chairmen
of the Republican and Democrat parties, be approved for the period
July 1, 1972 through June 30, 1973.
Unanimously carried.
The list of inspectors is attached to and made a part of these
minutes.
APPOIim^EHT
There was brief discussion of the qualifications of Mr. Richard B.
Fischer for the proposed appointment to the County Environmental
Management Council. Mr. Fischer is a professor of Nature and Conser
vation Education at Cornell University. Mr. Berkey indicated that
Mr. Fischer teaches Environmental Education at Cornell University and
that he would be well qualified. Herbert Mahr also indicated that
Mr. Fischer would be a good man for the position.
Motion by Supervisor Schwan; seconded by Councilman Desch,
RESOLVED, that Richard B. Fischer of 135 Pine Tree Road, Ithaca, New
York, be appointed to the County Environmental Management Council
effective immediately.
Unanimously carried.
APPROVAL OF WARRANTS
Motion by Councilman Desch; seconded by Councilman Powers,
RESOLVED, that the warrants dated May 8, 1972 be approved, with the
exception of Warrant No. 23^, Work Order No. 4328, totalling the
i following amounts in the general fund and the highway fund.
— General Fund $ 7,791.28
Highway Fund . $ 9,704.83
Unanimously carried.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Councilman Desch; seconded by Supervisor Schwan,
RESOLVED, that the minutes of May 8, 1972, as presented by the Town
Clerk, be approved.
Unanimously carried.
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VINAY AMBEGAOKAR - REQUEST TOR
WATER MAIN EXTEMSIOM - SUGAR BUSH LANE
Mr. Vinay Ambegaokar requested the Town Board to authorize a water
main extension to his premises at 5 Sugar Bush Lane, some 5OO-6OO
feet of 6 inch pipe, saying he has contracted to have his house com
pleted by July 30, and wanted to connect up as soon as possible. It
appeared it would be impossible to make the extension by July 30th
in view of all the legal &nd procedural steps required. Although the
Board sympathized with Mr* Ambegaokar*s request and recognized his
need, there was some feeling that this was not an item high on the
Town's list of priorities.
Councilman Desch suggested that Peter Prancese, Planning Board Con
sultant, work up a list of problem area in the Town, sort them out,
determine the benefit to the whole community and the cost, and then
possibly go through all the legal and procedural steps as a complete
package. Supervisor Schwan said he would work with Mr. Prancese on
this.
There was some feeling on the Board and on the part of some townspeople
present that Mr. Ambegaokar should not have to wait until a whole
package of problem areas are provided for; that his area should be
considered as an entity in itself.
This problem and the delay in handling it produced some discussion
of the Town's need for more personnel, particularly in engineering,
to be able to handle more projects simultaneously, rather than one
at a time. Councilman Desch pointed out, however, that the Board
might have some difficulty in justifying to the taxpayer or anyone
else the expenditures required to do all things at one time.
SCHICKEL ENVXROMMEmL DEWLOPMEMT CORPORATION
Town Attorney Buyoucos read a proposal of Schickel Environmental
Development Corporation for the development of 16 acres of land off
Honness Lane, reciting that the Developer, Norbert Schickel, had pre
sented a general proposal for a new residential community to the Town
Planning Board; that on April 25, 1972 the Planning Board adopted a
resolution "looking with favor" on the proposal; that the Developer,
Mr. Schickel, Supervisor Schwan, and Mrs, Barbara Holcomb, Chairman of
the Planning Board, had discussed some of the details of the proposal
and had prepared a list of items to be considered by the Town Board,
Planning Board and Mr. Schickel in order to reach a preliminary agree
ment as a basis for a resolution by the Town Board. Supervisor Schwan
read the list of items and the comments on each item. The list is
attached to these minutes.
Attorney Buyoucos explainted that this project is planned as 160 single
family units to be developed in four phases of 4o units each, the
units to be offered for sale.
Mr. Schickel, appearing before the Board, sought a resolution approv
ing the general concept of the project before entailing a very con
siderable expense in preparing firm plans. At the same time, Mr.
Schickel recognized that the Town Board could not approve a project
in advance of all legally required procedures and prior to the pre
sentation of more specific plans.
There was lengthy discussion. Board members were concerned over the
density of the project should it result by various avenues in too many
rental units. Mr. Schickel assured the Board that the project is
planned as a family ownership project. He said, however, that he
could not rule out the possibility that some of the units might be
come rental units. He said he is not planning to build ahead of sales
(there would be a model for prospective buyers to see) and would thus
avoid being pressured to rent unsold units. He did say, however, that
he would not like to have too restrictive an agreement with the Town
since it would increase his difficulties with the FHA in arranging the
financing. He noted that each owner of a unit would be a member of a
ITEMS TO BE CONSIDERED BX" THE TOWN BOARD, PLANNING BOARD, AND MR.
SCHICKEL IN ORDER TO REACH A PRELIMINARY AGREEMENT AS A BASIS FOR
A RESOLUTION BY THE TOWN BOARD
(1) What is the density of the project?
10 units per gross acre.
Number of Units?
160 maximum.
Occupancy?
Units will be 2 bedroom - possible study in some.
Envision occupants will be retired, single, working
couples4 They hope for some children but envision few.
(2) I'raffic pattern. Where will the streets be?
Two connections on to Honness Lane.
Through streets?
I
Prefer not4 Do not plan for through streets.
Loop road?
Yes.
Objections of Eastwood residents in the event there is a con
nection with Eastwood?
Developer prefers not to connect through to either
Eastwood or Woodcrest Circle. Town has suggested that
a walkway and/or bicycle path be provided on the right
of way between the Schickel property and Woodcrest Circle
for the use of children who will attend Belle Sherman
School.
(3) What screening will be required?
' Natural hedgerow present on Coggshall property boundary
(west boundary of property) will be maintained. Heavily
wooded creek on rear of property will provide natural
boundary. Railroad right of way with heavy growth (owned
by Cornell University) will provide natural barrier on
easterly side of property. Developer will provide plant
ings as screening for the undeveloped lots in the Enos
Pyle development unless these lots are added to the
Schickel development, in which case the proposed road
(presently labelled Hanford Place) will be the barrier.
Remaining properties on -the southerly boundary of the
Schickel property will be screened.
(4) What is the general appearance of the buildings?
Frame, two stories, four units per building — irregular
shapes.
(5) What is the location of the buildings from the sidelines and
street?
Developer will at least meet the requirements for side
boundaries and streets laid down in the proposed new
Zoning Ordinance.
(6) What is the location of parking space from sidelines and street?
Developer is aiming for two parking spaces per unit but
in no case will it average less than 1.5 pei* unit. Park
ing places to be located in close proximity to buildings.
All requirements of the new Zoning Ordinance for location
will be complied with.
(7) Drainage facilities?
Topographic map showing proposed drainage of total area
will be presented in general♦ The land in the upper two
thirds will drain into the natural creek which is the
boundary between the City and the Town of Ithaca. Mostof the remainder will drain southerly into the roadsideditch on Honness Lane and attention will be given to
the adequacy of the culvert under Slaterville Road.A small portion in the southwest corner of the property
which may not be drained by either of these methods willbe given special consideration and property owners along
Slaterville Road who might be affected by this drainagewill be contacted to obtain their cooperation in solving
the possible problem.
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Homeowners Association and thus every owner would have a ?take and
a vote in maintaining the ownership character of the development.
He said there could be a covenant, for instance, that the Homeowners
Association shall have the right of first refusal.
Councilman Desch was much concerned about density, figuring it to be
about three times the density of R-15 zonei Mr. Schickel suggested it
might be more like two timesi Mr. Franceses Planning Board Consultant,
said the Planning Board had estimated it at about twice the density
of R-15 but that they felt it was acceptable in this area, particularly
since it was so close to a main artery, douncilman Powers felt the
Schickel development was a step between the high density multiples
and signle family and he felt there was k need for such a development.
Councilman Del Rosso felt the concept was basically good and unique,
but hoped some safeguards might be developed to prevent any signifi
cant number of rental units, Mr. Schidkel felt the buyers of these
units would have the same concern and stated categorically that this
was a for sale" development. Rentals would be incidental.
When no further discussion developed the following resolution was
moved:
Motion by Supervisor Schwan; seconded by Councilman Powers,
WHEREAS, the Developer has presented a general proposal for a
new residential community to the !Pown Planning Board which on April
^972 adopted a resolution "looking with favor" upon the proposal
and indicating a favorable recommendation when an acceptable site plan
as stated in said resolution has been accepted by same Board, and
WHEREAS> the Developer, Supervisor Schwan, and Barbara Holcomb,
Planning Board Chairman, have discussed some of the details of the
proposal and incorporated some of the items discussed in writing, and
WHEREAS, the Developer recognizes that the Town Board cannot
approve a project in advance of all legally required procedures and
prior to the presentation of more specific plans, and
WHEREAS, Norbert Schickel now appears before the Town Board
asking for an expression of opinion of the Board as to the accept
ability of his proposal,
IT IS RESOLVED by the Town Board as follows:
1. The Town Board approves in principle the use of the 16
acre parcel substantially as presented in Mr. Schickel*s "Proposal
for a New Residential Community in the Town of Ithaca," it being under
stood by the Town Board that the separate units will be offered for
sale as single family residential units; that each structure will con
sist of about four separate family units, separated by party walls;
that each unit will be offered for sale with the lot size being sub
stantially the land underneath each separate unit plus some additional
space which may be required for patios, garbage disposal, parking
space and the like.
2. The Board approves in principle the general concept of the
proposal.
3. The Board approves in principle the density factor in the
proposal, it being understood that Mr. Schickel's plans contemplate
no more than 160 single family units which will be developed substan
tially in four phases of 4o units each.
4. The Town Board can make no binding commitment to Mr.
Schickel in advance of specific site plans, drawings, maps, public
hearings, at which the public may express their opinion, all of which
may produce facts and conditions not evident to or being considered
by the Board at the present time. However, the Town Board does state
that, at the present time, at this stage of the project, it looks with
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favor on the general concept of development of the l6 acre parcel as
presented by Mr. Schickel. Whether the parcel is developed as a
planned unit, cluster housing, or other district under the present
ordinance, or any amendment or change thereto, will be in the dis
cretion of the Town Board.
The resolution was put to the vote5 the members of the Board were
polled, with the following result:
. Aye
. Aye
. Aye
• Nay
» Aye
Supervisor Schwan . . .
Councilman Del Rosso .
Councilman Powers , . .
Councilman Desch . , .
Councilman McElwee , .
The resolution was thereupon adopted.
ACQUISITION OF PARK LAM)
Mr, Prancese, Planning Consultant, reported to the Board with respect
to 17 parcels of land, available to the Town to be used for park land,
in the Lick Brook area. Coy Glen area, and flood plain area in the
vicinity of the Flood Control Channel,
Motion by Councilman Deschj seconded by Councilman Powers,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board appropriate $1,750,00 from the Contin
gency Fund for an appraisal of 17 parcels of land in the Lick Brook
area. Coy Glen area, and flood plain area in the vicinity of the Flood
Control Channel, said appraisal to be preliminary to the acquisition
of the land by the Town for use as a park and to be completed within
thirty days from June 12, 1972 (the appraisal); whatever balance of
funds being required to bring the Contingency Fund up to an amount
which will cover the $1,750-00 to come from the mosquito control
account.
Unanimously carried.
HOUSE NUMBERING IN THE TOWN OF ITHACA
Mr. Francese, Planning Consultant, reported that he had a proposal
from a Mr. R. H. Denman, 101 Brookfield Road, Ithaca, New York, that
all the houses in the Town of Ithaca be re-numbered. The Town Plan
ning Board felt this was something that could be postponed for a couple
of years. The Town Board agreed that this was not a top priority item
and could be considered again some time in the future.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned until Monday, June 19, 1972 at 7:30 p.m.
Edward L. Bergen
Town Clerk