HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB Minutes 1988-01-11TOWN OF ITHACA
REGULAR BOARD MEETING
January 11, 1988
At a Regular Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca,
Tcnpkins County, New York, held at the Town Offices at 126 East
Seneca Street, Ithaca, New York, on the 11th day of January, 1988,
there were:
PRESENT:Noel Desch, Supervisor
Henry McPeak, Councilman
Shirley Raffensperger, Councilwcman
Robert Bartholf, Councilman
Patricia Leary, Councilvonan
Raymond Bordoni, Councilman
Thoias Cardman, Councilman
ALSO PRESENT!Eric Whitney, Assistant Engineer
John Barney, Town Attorney
Susan Beeners, Town Planner
Beverly Livesay, Board of Representatives
Ruth Mahr, 103 Judd Falls Road
Janice Esman, 903 Triphammer Road
Richard B. Fischer, 135 Pine Tree Road
Song Kyong, 1290 Trumansburg Road
Paula F. Vfeiss, Roberl: Leathers Architect
Don Ellis, Robert Leathers Architect
Robert Leathers, Robert Leathers Architect
Andrew Sciarabba, Chamber of Cotitierce
Doria Higgins, 2 Hillcrest Drive
Betsy Darlington, 204 Fairmount Avenue
Jane Pedersen, 206 Elrtiwood Avenue
Ken Jupiter, 202} E. Tcmpkins Street
Robert Congdon, 118 Troy Road
Barbara Congdon, 118 Troy Road
Dorothy Evans, R.D,# 3, Ithaca
Clair Tallman, 106 Brook Lane
Representatives of the Media:
Tom Maskulinski, WTKO/WQNY News
Jim Aroune, WHCU
Fred Yahn, Ithaca Journal
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIAtO;
The Supervisor led the assemblage in the Pledge of Allegiance.
REPORT OF TCWN OFFICIALS
Town Supervisor's Report
Supervisor Desch remarked that he would like to welccme our new
Town Board members. Ton Cardman and Ray Bordoni. He went on to say
that he was confident that Tom and Ray would serve the people of
the Town well and he was looking forward to the opportunity to work
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with them on the many challenges ahead. He stated that he felt
they would find it an enjoyable and rewarding experience.
Insiirance
Supervisor Desch reported that we have no official quotes yet on
the "tail" but the signals are not good. We are being told that
the tail will cost 100-125% of our last years premiinn which would
basically mean $126,000 for primarily four months coverage. This
is pretty outrageous and pending further review my recommendation
would be that we not take it.
Fire Commissioners
Supervisor Desch noted that our new Fire Conmiissioners have been
seated and will attend their first meeting tomoinrow evening. The
Design Camiittee is also meeting tomorrow to discuss the
possibility of a prefab building of the original program size
constructable within the $900,000 project cost per station.
Youth Services
The Supervisor reported that we do not yet have a date for the
meeting to discuss future directions. However, he had distributed
the data provided by the City to Town Board members. Some of the
program costs per participant exceed $1,000 as structured by the
City so a hard look will be needed at the wisdom of continuing
those programs.
1988 Tax Bills
Supervisor Desch stated that he had been spending quite a bit of
time explaining to a number of taxpayers the reasons for the hugh
increase in their tax bill. So far all have been satisfied with
the answers although no more happy with having to pay the average
$200 increase. We have written to our legislators to get the
special approval to use sales taxes for fire protection purposes.
This will help us considerable to keep sources of revenues clearly
stated and allocations more clear.
Looking ahead to 1989, our early planning on siabdivision review
fees and environmental fees will also help to relieve the tax
burden for the services we provide. So in 1989, a significant Town
tax rate decrease should be feasible even recognizing the other
press\ares we will face.
Meeting Dates
Supevisor Desch remarked that the Board neets to amend the schedule
of meeting recently adopted with regard to the December 30, 1988
meeting vMch should read 10:30 A.M., rather than 5:30 P.M.
RESOLUTION NO. 1
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Comcilman Bartholf,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby amends
the 1988 schedule of meetings and sets the time for the the
December 30, 1988 to begin at 10:30 A.M., instead of 5:30 P.M. as
adopted in the schedule.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni, and
Cardman voting Aye. Nays - none).
Councilwcman Raffensperger stated that she had a question about the
inquiries about the tax increases. She stated that she had a
tel^hone call and understood that seme of those inquiries were
referred, without any other explanation, directly to the Coimty.
The County was not too pleased, they thought the Town should have
had someone prepared to make explanations. Do we have someone in
the Town Hall is prepared to answer questions?
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Supervisor Desch replied, the way we have set it up is two ways.
If a person cones in with an inquiry we provide the tax notice
sheet that you all have a copy of, and then if they have questions
beyond that the staff are instructed to have the person call me.
If sonebody calls in, except the first day January 4th, when they
were instructed to call the Coionty, since they have been instructed
to have the people call me. If there is a question beyond that I
have suggested they to call their County Representative, as far as
the County budget is concerned.
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked, but we are not longer just
referring them to the County?
Supervisor Desch replied, not as the first referral.
Town Engineer's Repori:
Eric Whitney, Assistant Engineer reported that there was no written
report, however, the water and sewer project was going along fine
with blasting being conducted north of Orchard Hill Road. The
Hospital Access Road is pretty much on schedule, 65 to 70%
coiplete.
PHASE II WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
Mr. Whitney reported that F. Rizzo Construction was the low bidder
with a bid of $764,674 about two hundred thousand dollars less than
the average and two hundred thousand dollars less than the next
lowest bidder also. They were very happy to be the low bidder out
of ten bidders.
Councilman McPeak asked if Rizzo Construction had ever done any
work for the Town before?
Supervisor Desch replied that he did not believe so.
Comcilman Cardman asked v^y was Rizzo's bid so much lower than
anyone elses? What is the reason for the bid difference?
Mr. Whitney replied that all their material prices seem to be on
par. He felt everyone else was afraid of Taughannock Boulevard
v^ere they are going to have to move the guard rails and lay the
water and sewer lines right on top of each other. With about two
foot wide shoulders in places, with steep drop off.
Councilman Cardman remarked, then its reasonable to think they can
do the job for that.
Eric Whitney replied. Bob Flumerfelt the Town Engineer feels they
can do the job for this figure and I feel so also.
Supervisor Desch remarked, there is no question in your mind that
it is not a ccirplete bid, all the items are included and all the
work is included?
Eric Whitney replied, yes.
RESOLUTION NO. 2
Motion by Councilman Cardman; seconded by Councilman Bartholf,
WHEREAS, ten bids were received January 7, 1988, for Phase II
Construction of Water and Sanitary Mains - 1987 Iiiprovements,
ranging in base bid amount from $764,674 to $1,917,170, and
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WHEREAS, the low bidder, F. Rizzo Construction, Inc., of Oswego,
New York has met all of the requirements and formalities required
for sufcinission of his bid, and appears to be a reputable
contractor,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, by the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca that the Town Supervisor be authorized to award the contract
for Phase II Construction of Water and Sanitary Sewer Mains - 1987
Improvements, to F. Rizzo Construction Inc., in the base amoimt of
$764,674, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney of the bonds
I and contract forms.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni, and
Cardman voting Aye. Nays - none) .
Councilman Bordoni questioned labor rates, asking if the low bid
indicates a company that has a non-union work force or can't you
tell this?
Eric Whitney replied that he did not think that was it. He felt
most people felt they would have to remove all of the guard rails
totally and since there are thirty seme odd culverts and minor
stream crossing there, he felt they were counting on doing
substantial sheet pilings to keep the bank stable. Somebody with
some sort of offset boom will have to do this and most of the
contractors did not have this equipment.
Building Inspector/Zoning Officers Report
Building Inspector/Zoning Officer Andrew Frost reported that
building permits and certificates of compliance were up. Building
and zoning activities include life safety issues and that he does
get involved with these issues vdiich are the result of fires v^ere
we have a potentially unsafe building. If we have a fire and the
building is potentially unsafe, the first priority of the day is to
make sxore the building the building will not create a hazzard to
anybody. Life safety issues do become a top priority.
Mr. Frost reported that individual complaints total 47 for 1987,
the "hot" issues v^en we get complaints are noise, garbage and
abandoned cars. Seven sign permits were issued in 1987. We had 49
individual appeals to the Zoning Board of Appeals with 12 cases
adjourned or a total of 61. 844 field visits in 1987, 622 Uniform
Code inspections, 192 zoning ordinance inspections, 22 fire safety
inspections and 8 fire occurances in 1987.
Mr. Frost went on to say that one of the goals for 1988 was to try
to encourage Town residents to voice zoning ccmplaints and related
issues to the Building Inspector so that action can be initiated.
A few Board members have received complaints and obviously we can't
take action for the Town unless people complain directly to us or
unless vdien people complain to you you notify us here so that
can initiate action. If there are problems out there, short of
being a policoman and going around in the middle of the night
looking for problemis, we are not going to know unless residents in
the Town complain to us.
Supervisor Desch remarked, we can put somnething in the Newsletter.
i The Building Inspector/Zoning Officer went on to say that he wanted
to develop more complete records. Right now if you issue a
building permit, there may be building permits from previous years
in another folder, a zoning or planning issue or complaints and
that ideally all the information should be in one folder so that
vhen you pull a folder on a certain tax parcel everything you might
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want to know about that parcel is right there in the folder. We
need more help, however, to acccnplish this.
Supervisor Desch asked about the Summerhill fire.
Mr. Frost replied, Summerhill Apartments had a fire at 3:00 A.M.,
this rooming. They were inspected several months ago by roe. They
had sane problems with the installation of wood stoves which are in
every single apartment. There was a modification by the installer
in how he put two pieces of stove pipe together in the section
between the first floor ceiling and the second floor floor. The
crimping of the sheet metal which joins the pipe is not tight which
permitted hot gases to escape v^ch eventually ignited wood in the
interior portion of the wall viiich spread the fire. There was a
fire wall \(^ich minimized the spread of the fire. The fire
investigator informed me about the inproper installation. I have
let the property manager know that a notice is to be issued to tell
people they cannot use their wood stoves until corrections are
made.
Town Planner's Report
Town Planner Susan Beeners stated that the Board has a copy of her
report. A lot of research that has not come in final form to the
Boards is gradually making its way to the Boards. That dealing
with different amendments to the Zoning Ordinance, Subdivision
Regulation and SEQR regulations. Research into the actual zoning
boundaries by tax parcels, that should be ready in a couple of
months. The corputer system, a much needed feature, is now on
board and that she was using it for word processing and hoped to
get into the specialities as soon as we acquire such items as the
County Assessment Rolls data base which the County has said can be
downloaded so we can use it.
Ms. Beeners went on to say that her main objective in 1988 is to
hire and train an assistant planner to be a basic right hand person
as well as to concentrate on some of the priority areas, up dating
maps viiich can be official maps, completing a draft comprehensive
plan statement \^ch is becoming formalized now so that that can be
reviewed this Spring. That person would be a big help with the
Census review that will be beginning with the January *88 meeting
and running on for two years. Also, as Mr. Frost expressed, having
a real consolidated type of information and records system so that
we can follow these projects through from beginning to end.
Ms. Beeners went on to note 43 applications vMch were formally
considered and at v^ch some action was made. Among then 4 new
business or light industrial uses, 2 business expansions, 3 new
schools. Total number of dwelling units v^ich received final
approval was 300 of these conventional lots 37 received final
approval, 90 units clustered received final approval, 209 multiple
residences received final approval, the 120 units at Butterfield
inflates that quite a bit and we have not seen any action but she
expected a revision to Butterfield, or old Majestic Heights, to
come in again. Also, 10 mobile homes.
>ii^ COUNTY BOARD OF REPRESENTATIVES
County Board Representative Beverly Livesay remarked that she would
like to talk, a little bit, about solid waste and update the Board.
She went on to say that tiie Board knows, from reading the paper,
that we did select a site in Dryden. We are now embarking on the
phase of determining that we do in fact, have a licenseable site
there. Since we may or may not have by the time all of the studies
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that we imist do are conpleted we are also going to renew the search
for additional sites. We did not feel that with the three sites we
had that we had a site and two backup sites. We felt we barely had
a site. There was seme disagreement about that. The thing that is
going to inpact on the whole County is that before we are through
with all this and have a site we are very likely of being in the
situation of transporting out of the ccmntunity. This will have
iirplications for all of us. What the County has provided is a site
to take it to. The County has not provided a way to get it there.
This will be up for a great deal of discussion. We will be
examining vdiether there will be savings to be made. We are going
ahead with the transfer stations and bailing and etc., and whether
we can even have that together before the State makes us get out of
Landstron is questionable. It is our intention to go ahead with
recycling as fast as we can and that should held reduce scsne of the
tonage that has to be hauled seme place. The East side of the Town
of Ithaca is one of the areas identified, along with the Village of
Cayuga Heights, for pilot studies so we will all need to work
together on that both from the standpoint of how it is going to
work and with public education, etc. We would expect to be into
that before the end of the year and possibly as soon as next
summer.
Supervisor Desch remarked, the transportation of solid waste
between now and vhen the new landfill is ready is going to be very
expensive.
Mrs. Livesay responded, if we need to transport it out of the
County which looks very likely.
Supervisor Desch asked vtot role will the Comty likely have in the
pilot program for recycling?
Mrs. Livesay responded, this is all part of v^at has to be
researched. The Countys interest is of course in reducing the
volume that must be landfilled. There was seme discussion about
vhether the resolution or local law that was passed vhen the County
took over the landfill operations, vhether that gave the County the
statutory authority that's required. That is being researched.
The County's desire is to not step into an area that the Towns
would have responsibility for, it's merely to be of assistance to
get rid of the stuff. At least at every meeting vdiere we have
discussed that there hasn't been a concern about we must have a
certain volume of recycling in order to make it cost effective,
therefore, we will take first rights to this. What everybodys
concerns are ought to be brought forward and we ought to discuss
them.
Supervisor Desch remarked, it the enforcement question that
administratively vho ever does it, in the more rural areas how do
you acccaiplish this.
Mrs. Livesay responded, that's assuming mandatory recycling. The
direction v^ch our consultant is taking us is not in the direction
of mandatory recycling. Her feeling is that you make recycling
such an attractive option that people do it.
Supervisor Desch responded, does that mean you have to find the
mm markets for the material, at the County level?
I Mrs. Livesay responded, we are assimdng that we will take that
responsibility. We have a consultant working with our solid waste
engineers v^o has considerable experience and she has been
identifying markets and etc. Certainly since volimie is an issue it
is better to do it all together.
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1987 BUDGET TRANSFERS
RESOLUTION NO. 3
Motion by Coiancilitian McPeak; seconded by Councilvonan
Raff ensperger,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Tbwn of Ithaca hereby
authorize the following 1987 year end transfers:
GENERAL FUND - TOWNWIDE
Transfers to:
A1430.100 Personnel - Personal Services $ 281.25
A1620.100 Buildings - Personal Services 37.84
TOTAL $ 319.09
Transfer frcm:
A5132.200 Highway Garage - Equipment $ 319.09
GENERAL FUND - PARTTOWN
Transfer to:
B8010.100 Zoning - Personal Services $ 241.50
B8010.400 Zoning - Contractual 81.39
B8020.400 Planning - Contractual 3,442.06
TOTAL $ 3,764.95
Transfer from:
B5630.430 Bus Operations - N.E.T. $ 3,764.95
HIGHWAY FUND
Transfer to:
DB5130.460 Machinery - Vehicle Maintenance $ 100.00
TOTAL $ 100.00
Transfer frcm:
DB5130.200 Machinery - Equipment $ 100.00
WATER FUND
Transfer to:
F8350.473 Common Water Supply - WH/FH $11,736.28
TOTAL $11,736.28
Transfer frcm:
F8340.481 Trans. & Distri. - Tank Maint. $11,736.28
(Desch, McPeak, Raff ensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni, and
Cardman voting Aye. Nays - none).
PLANNING/ENGINEERING STUDENT ASSISTANT
RESOLUTION NO. 4
Motion by Councilman Bordoni; seconded by Councilman Bartholf,
WHEREAS, the Town Planner and the Town Engineer have recommended
that the part-time temporary employment of Paul Look as a
Planning/Engineering student assistant for ccmputer programming,
mapping, and general engineering/planning office and field work be
continued during the Spring of 1988,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of
Ihaca approve and hereby does approve the hiring of Paul Look
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between January 12 and May 31, 1988 as Planning/Engineering Student
Assistant for a maximum of 19 weeks, 15 hours per week at a rate of
$6.00 per hour, for a total of $1,710 to be paid from Planning
Personal Services Account No. B8020.100.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bairtholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none).
PROPOSAL FOR THE REZONING OF CERTAIN LANDS ON TRUMANSBURG ROAD FROM
R-30/R--15 TO SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT
Bob Leathers introduced himself as an architect, vdio then
introduced Paula Weiss and Don Ellis vdio will describe the project
with slides and plans. Mr. Leathers then introduced Song Kyong v^o
introduced the project.
Song Kyong remarked that she was the owner of the land on Route 96
across from the hospital. She stated that her husband had an
office on that property and they felt something was needed on West
Hill and they felt that the property should be developed to serve
the needs of West Hill. We have studied the plans a lot and have
discussed the plans a lot and we came up with this plan and we hope
you will consider it.
Mr. Leathers remarked that actually two years ago he took a look at
this property vhen the Kyong's purchased it and wanted to renovate
the house that was there, a nice little Greek revival house vdiich
Dr. Kyong now has his office in. At that time we talked just a
little bit about vtet might happen up there. It's a beautiful
area, very rural area. It's one of the things that's so nice about
living in Ithaca. You can have a nice rural area that is close
into town. We feel as architects that it should stay rural. We
feel as architects that in fact it should keep that same flavor.
There is a slight problem with that and that problen is that it is
also in an area that is going to see a lot of growth in the future.
Certainly vdien we straighten out the octopus and we get better
access to West Hill, I think we are going to see a lot more
development up in that area. But even right now, it is an area
vdiich we see growing a lot. We feel strongly though that that
growth should utilize the land effectively but should utilize in a
way that is still going to maintain that unique quality, that's
going to keep that rural flavor. What we are doing then, is
developing a plan that in fact can put that land to its best use
vdiile at the same time can keep that ve3:y special quality. We
aren't going to be able to show you exactly vtot it is going to
look like because obviously its very very much in the preliminary
stages. We would like to show you sane slides of seme other areas
that in fact have been done and the kind of flavor we are talking
about and how it was achieved. Then Don Ellis will describe the
plan showing you in fact how we feel those same kinds of
determinates, those same kind of directions can be used in this
pairticular site and how they can be put to work to make this a very
nice place to live and to work.
After showing slides, Mr. Ellis remarked that we have to do the
environmental assessment form v^ch will be submitted in a couple
of days and we hope to be back to the Town Board in May to make the
mm final presentation to this Board following Planning Board review.
Mr. Leathers remarked to actually take that one step further, we
are looking at possible constmction as early as next Fall, that
would be the soonest he believed. Mr. Leathers went on to say that
it might be so that we could have it completed iyy the Spring of
1989. We would finish the interior during the winter.
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Supervisor Desch asked if that v?as the initial phase?
Mr. Leathers responded that the first phase might include seme of
the initial part of the retail, the deli that was mentioned in the
first section.
Councilwcanan Leary noted Mr. Leathers had mentioned health as the
theme, are you thinking of this as a retirement cOTimunity?
Mr. Leathers replied, we are very attuned to that, we are exploring
the possibility that we take special measures with the single
family or the multiple or both, to make it appealing to that part
of the housing market. There does seen to be quite a demand. The
location may be expecially good in that regard too as there are
services for retired and elderly people in this area already and
may be we should extend that idea. We have not settled firmly on
that yet but it certainly is a possibility.
Councilman McPeak asked, vdiat kind of price range are you talking
about?
Mr. Leathers replied, for the single family? You are way ahead of
me with that question. We have not worked that far. He stated
that he would be amazed if they could do a house for less than
$80,000. It's not toward the upper end, we are talking about seme
toward the lower end and that is one of the reasons for the cluster
houses vMch are geared toward that. Certainly by May we will have
more details as to vtot they will actually cost.
Councilwcman Raffensperger questioned, sixty units of multiple, am
I right?
Mr. Leathers replied, yes.
Councilwcman Raffensperger asked, how many single families?
Mr. Leathers replied, we have a couple of plans that are sketched
more carefully and the laigest niJitiber that we have shown is 54, we
don't really mean to present that as vtot we are doing we are
exploring that.
Councilwcman Raffensperger remarked, you don't have a square
footage for vdiat you call the retail?
Mr. Leathers replied, no.
Coucnilwcman Raffensperger asked, v^at about the acreage then?
Mr. Leathers replied, the acreage for the retail is 16 acres all
together, that includes the existing house, the v^ole front piece.
Supervisor Desch remarked, about one-third.
Mr. Leathers replied about one-third, right. We would like to
leave quite a bit of space there, we are proposing tennis courts in
there. The general concept of the buildings is v^t you saw in the
slides \^ere a shopper may go from one building to another across a
little court yard.
Councilwcman Raffensperger asked, there is no park allocation in
that?
Mr. Leathers replied, there will be. We are still struggling with
just i^ere it should go. As an example, if there are two or three
tennis coTirts, one or two of them would be allocated as scmething
that can be used by the public as a possibility or at least the
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space v^ere they are constructed can be allocated so that we can
have a recreational thing developed by the Town participating in
sane way and the developer providing the land. We know that tiiere
is interest in a soccer field, the reason he was shewing this is
that \dien the Route 96 plan goes through we might otherwise end up
with one of those places v^ere Burger King wrappers end up and it
seemed like we should do something positive to prevent that from
happening. This typically happens vdien the State abandons a piece
of road.
Councilwcman Raffensperger remarked, you are asking for this as a
Special Land Use District, v^iy didn't you come to us asking to have
it rezoned cluster, multiple family, single family and particularly
vdiy not a business category?
Mr. Leathers replied, the Special Use District is one that is
uniquely designed, we felt, that it could combine several types
uses on one piece of land and done as a package. We feel that this
approach is particularly appropriate here and does apply in this
case vdiere we have this close proximity between these three
different types of uses. It happens to be a transition zone too
that goes from residential on the uj^r side to vtet has become
more of a retail on the lower side towards 96. We felt it was
particularly appropriate, unless you tell us otherwise.
Mr. Ellis remarked, if we have it rezoned the implication is
subdivision and we have only minimal subdivision intention here.
The single family portion will most logically simply be subdivided
and sold for single family housing. All of the rest of it might
very well be held within one ownership. It really doesn't matter
v^ch way we go there but somehow the logic seems a little strong
toward the Special Use District.
Councilwcman Raffensperger replied, the business uses are your
Phase I.
Mr. Ellis responded. Phase I is two of the multiple family units
and renovation of the bam and construction of three other
buildings. That is vtot we see as Phase I.
Supervisor Desch remarked that the first step would be to refer
this to the Planning Board for their review, however, as you know
and as reference has been made, the Route 96 issue presents a
dilemma to us and there are a number of questions. One question
would be, would this Board ultimately consider rezoning this parcel
if the City of Ithaca Common Council turns down the new highway.
This is a real, unfortunate, possibility. On the other hand, it's
inappropriate to perhaps defer action on proposals that this Board
decides have merit. But there is common ground perhaps some \^ere
in between and that is where major rezoning efforts are involved
should the developers be required to not only consider an open
space set aside but a set aside of some kind of return to the
taxpayers of the Town in the way of support of the construction of
a road that the Town of Ithaca would have to build in lieu of Route
96, because obviously there is going to be substantial traffic
generated v^ether its this project as a commercial project or the
other attractive areas that are near by. He felt this was a rather
large question v^ch in his mind makes it some\tot inappropriate
to, certainly this quickly, decide to refer it to the Planning
Board. He stated that he would like to see the Staff come back and
consider vtot might be appropriate in the way of conditions for the
rezoning to be a reasonable thing for this Board to do. The other
reason for suggesting that is that there are, as Tom Niederkom put
in his report on Route 96, about a dozen large parcels right in
this immediate area. As you know there is the Babcock parcel,
Cornell has a large parcel, the Berggren parcel, the Odd Fellows
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parcel. We, as well as the potential developers have seme veiry
significant concerns to deal with. Clearly, he stated that he did
not think, at least from his own standpoint, that we would want the
taxpayers of the Town to, some five or six years down the road, be
burdened with a very sxjbstantial cost of building a road within the
Town of Ithaca as an alternative and probably the only alternative
that would be available should the State plan be turned down. He
suggested that the Board table action perhaps until the February
rneeting on the referral to the Planning Board.
Councilwcman Raffensperger questioned, waiting for?
Supeirvisor Desch replied, waiting for a recommendation from staff
on the conditions that might be appropriate to the rezoning
considerations in this area.
Councilman Bordoni questioned, hinging around and involving the
possible relocation of 96?
Supervisor Desch replied, it seems fortunate that probably the
action on Route 96 for better or for worse is going to happen for
all practical purposes, this year. During the period of time that
that deliberation is taking place, vhen it ccmes to rezoning
considerations, the Town needs to keeps both possibilities in mind
as a real world situation. What happens in terms of land use and
the large parcels on West Hill in the event the highway is turned
down. Clearly there has to be another highway on West Hill v^ether
the City approves the State plan or not. That being the case, vho
is going to build it? Clearly non-local funds will no longer be
available, the taxpayers in the Town of Ithaca throughout should
not be burdened with the construction costs of that highway. You
are talking about a million dollars or more probably. It's a
regional solution that is needed, it's not just a Town of Ithaca
solution. The timing is such that we need to have the answer to
that before action is taken on a land use, particularly v^ere
rezonings are involved. If you are talking about R-15 or R-30 it
beccmes defused perhaps to greater degree so that the traffic
generated is much lower and is not as major of a concern.
Mr. Leathers remarked, with the development we are quite
conscientious of the problems on West Hill we felt with the sense
of development that we in fact are building, with the residential
use in conformance with the zoning, essentially as to the density
that would be allowed within the zone, so we aren't really adding
to that area up there beyond vdiat zoning already recognizes as
good growth. We felt that the commercial, v^le it is going to be
destination ccaiimercial, your destination isn't going to come from
Cayuga Heights or over on South Hill it's going to be from West
Hill. Who we are serving with that commercial? It is going to be
the neighborhood, it's a neighborhood shopping area. So we didn't
feel we would be adding to the regional traffic situation.
Supervisor Desch replied, that he felt probably v^at Mr. Leathers
should do, and he asked the Board members to tell him if this was
right or wrong, you are working on your environmental assessment
and this will tell us the overall scale of the different parts of
the project, so we will have ideas as to traffic, etc. There is
also the problem of the upper half of the project does not have
water pressure so there is going to be a need for seme storage of
seme kind in that area. So that is another item that he felt that
the Board would expect the developers to contribute to.
Mr. Leathers remarked that if it was possible, vdiat we would like
to do, knowing that this v^ole project takes a long time, we would
like to proceed with getting the environmental assessment together
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and getting it in so we could continue the process right along. If
we could have approval to do that it wDuld move the \diole process
right along.
Supervisor Desch replied, that you have every right to do.
Councilwcman Raffensperger remarked, we are then going to have seme
kind of a report from the Planning staff because some of the
clearlys are not that clear to me.
Supervisor Desch replied no, that's vdiy I said we need to know v^t
the substitute road would be, v^ere it will be, roughly vtot it
will cost, the time frame in relation to the developnent time
frame, etc.
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW REZONING THEN LOTS OF
"ITHACA ESTATES"
Proof of posting and publication of a notice of a public hearing to
consider a local law rezoning ten residential lots of "Ithaca
Estates" (Phase I and II), with eight of said lots fronting on East
King Road and being portions of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel Nos.
6-43-1-3.2 and 6-43-1-3.32, and with two of said lots designated as
Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel No. 6-43-1-3.31 and 6-43-1-3.33 (134 and
138 East King Road, respectively), from Residence District R-30 to
Residence District R-15 having been presented by the Town Clerk,
the Supervisor opened the public hearing.
Supervisor Desch asked the Boaid members if they had any questions
on the Environmental Review? The Supervisor also asked if there
was anyone present v^o wished to ccmment for or against the
proposal? There was no public ccmment for or against the rezoning
proposal.
Councilman Bordoni asked, for the benefit of the new members, the
two of us, what is the basic impact or difference between an R-30
and R15?
Town Planner Beeners replied, the R-30 as it is currently zoned is
a 30,000 square foot lot with an R-15 being a 15,000 square foot
lot.
Supervisor Desch added, originally when the Town decided to
implement zoning the two were set up because there were seme areas
of the Town that had water and sewer thus the smaller lots. Where
water and sewer was not available and you had to have onsite wells
and septic systems both the Health Department and the Town said
30,000 square foot should be the minimum. What happens is, once
these areas becomes public sewered and watered, if they haven't
been developed, its rather routine to rezone them from R-30 to R-15
because people don't generally want that much area.
Covincilwcman Raffensperger remarked, the Planning Board recommended
two or three conditions and she did not see them incorporated into
our local law. Can you tell me why?
Town Attorney Barney replied, we debated this the last time this
local law was discussed. There was a question about v^y we were
imposing conditions in this particular situation for viiat is
generally a routine accepted transition from R-30 to R-15. My
understanding from directions from the Board was to omit these.
Coiancilwcman Raffensperger stated that her recollection was that
there was some discussion that it wasn't even necessary to rezone
it because they had really not even requested rezoning.
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Attorney Barney replied that the viiole thing surfaces because he
want to build rectangular shaped houses that if you go with the
R-30 side yard dimensions will cause him a problem. The actual
size of the lots that he is planning are going to be basically R-30
size lots but they will be R-15 size yard regulations.
Councilwcman Raffensperger asked, then it is true though that those
conditions set by the Planning Board they are the ones then who
will make siare that that happens, the 30,000 square feet, etc.,
!^, through the Subdivision Regulations?
Town Attorney Barney replied, through the site plan approval. I
dont' want to mislead you, there is nothing that says that two days
after you rezone Mr. Monkemeyer could ccroe back in with a new
subdivision plan that has chopped everything up in different sized
R-15 lots.
Supervisor Desch added, however, he would have to do a new
environment assessment.
Town Attorney Barney replied, he would have to go through the whole
process again but that he did not want to say that it won't happen
because you are open to that possibility.
Supervisor Desch closed the public hearing.
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 5
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Councilman Bordoni,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby declare
a negative declaration of environmental significance for the
rezoning of the ten lots of "Ithaca Estates" frcm R-30 to R-15.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none).
LOCAL LAW NO. 1 - 1988
Motion by Councilman Bartholf; seconded hy Councilman McPeak,
LOCAL LAW NO. 1 - 1988
A LOCAL LAW TO REZCM PORTIONS OF ITHACA ESTATES ON EAST KING ROAD
FRCM R-30 TO R-15
The Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ithaca as readopted, amended,
and revised effective February 26, 1968, and^ thereafter further
amended, be further amended as follows:
1. The area described on Schedule A incorporated into this local
law is hereby rezoned from Residence District R-30 to Residence
District R-15.
Ml 2. The zoning map dated July 1, 1954, as amended to date, is
j hereby further amended by rezoning said lands described on Schedule
A frcm Residence District R-30 to Residence District R-15.
3. This local law shall take effect upon its filing with the
Secretary of State or twenty days after its adoption, vdiichever is
later.
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SCHEDULE A
ALL THAT TRACT OR PARCEL OF LAND situate in the Town of Ithaca,
Tcnpkins County, New York, being more particularly described as
follows; COMMENCING in the center line of King Road East vhere the
same intersects the westerly line of Military Lot 86 and the
easterly line of Military Lot 85 viiich point of beginning is also
shown as the intersection of the westerly line of proposed Harvard
Lane as shown on a map entitled "Ithaca Estates Subdivision Plant -
Phase I - Located on King Road East-Mil. Lot 86, - Town of Ithaca -
Tcnqpkins County, New York," dated November 30, 1979 and Jime 30,
1987, by T. G. Miller, P.C., Engineers and Surveyors, Ithaca, New
York, relating to Ithaca Estates - Phase I, a copy of vdiich map is
filed in the Town of Ithaca in the Town Planner's Office; running
thence along the center line of King Road East with an average
bearing of south 72 degrees east a distance of 101.4 feet to the
southeasterly comer of proposed Harvard Lane; continuing along the
center line of King Road East a total distance of 600 feet to the
southeasterly comer of Lot 4; continuing thence along the center
line of King Road East an additional 14.5 feet to a point; inanning
thence north approximately 13 degrees 42 minutes east along an old
fence line and substantially parallel to the easterly line of Lot 4
as shown on said map to a point located south 72 degrees east 18.4
feet frcm an iron pipe in the northeasterly comer of Lot 4 as
shown on said map; running thence north 72 degrees west a total
distance of 638.4 feet along the back lines of an area reserved for
drainage on Lots 4, 3, 2 and 1 as shown on said map, to the east
line of proposed Harvard Lane; continuing substantially in the same
direction across Harvard Lane to intersect the rear line of the six
lots shown on a mpa entitled "Final Subdivision Plat for Evan N.
Ifonkemeyer - Agent, Herbert N. Monkoneyer - Owner, Town of Ithaca,
County of Torpkins, State of New York, P/0 Tax Parcel 43-1-3.2; P/0
Deed, L.453/P.576; P/0 Military Lot No. 85; 'Ithaca Estates - Phase
Two'"; dated December 7, 1987, by George Schlecht, P.E., L.S., a
copy of vMch is filed with the Town Planner of the Town of Ithaca,
being an approxhnate distance of 101.4 feet; running thence no3±h
70 degrees 44 minutes 54 seconds west along the rear line of three
lots in said Ithaca Estates- Phase II, a total distance of 458.71
feet; continuing thence in the same general direction a distance of
30 feet to the northeast comer of three additional lots as shown
on Ithaca Estates-Phase II; running thence north 63 degrees 47
minutes 30 seconds west 307.27 feet to a point; running thence
north 68 degrees 26 minutes 30 seconds west 127.24 feet to the
no3rthwest comer of the first of said six lots shown on the Ithaca
Estates - Phase II map; running thence south 14 degrees 34 minutes
33 seconds west 251.18 feet to the center line of King Road East;
running thence south 68 degrees 26 minutes 30 seconds east 201.46
feet to a point; running thence south 68 degrees 42 minutes 31
seconds east 332.41 feet to a point; running thence south 69
degrees 10 minutes 53 seconds east 106.52 feet to a point; running
thence south 71 degrees 23 minutes 2 seconds east 152.58 feet to a
point; running thence south 71 degrees 50 minutes 29 seconds east
152.36 feet to the point or place of beginning.
Supervisor Desch called for a roll call vote.
Councilman Bartholf Voting Aye
Councilman Bordoni Voting Aye
Councilman Cardman Voting Aye
Councilwcman Leary Voting Aye
Councilman McPeak Voting Aye
Councilwcman Raffensperger Voting Aye
Supervisor Desch Voting Aye
Town Board 15 January 11, 1988
Local Law No. 1 - 1988 was thereupond declared duly adopted.
OBJECTIVES AND COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS
Supervisor Desch noted the Board had a list of objectives vhich we
will discuss at the February meeting so you will have time to think
about them. He went on to say that for those joining us for the
first time, these are certainly under no circumstances all
inclusive. We are looking to everybody for ideas on things we
should add or substitute, they are really a guide that we look to
to remind us that there are certain ccmmitments we have to get
done. However, the ccmmittee assignments we obvioxisly need to move
forward with and that he would simply like to do that unless there
are comments or suggestions from any of the Board members on the
selection. He stated that he has tried to reflect here the areas
of interest that he has heard people express and he felt he has
pretty well distributed that. He stated that he also tried not to
overload any one Board member on any more than two ccatimittees. He
went on to say that you will notice this year there is no Highway
Ccmmittee the reason for that being that obviously soon we will
have a new Highway Superintendent vdio he would like to get used to
working with the entire Board and depending on how smoothly that
goes along, we may not need to have a Highway Ccmmittee. If it
turns out one is needed, it's easy enough to form one. Seme of the
things we will be challenged with are shown on the second page,
again by no means exclusive because during the year quite often
other major things crop up that need to be dealt with but this
again is a guide line. He asked if there were any ccraments on the
committees or reservations to their appointments?
PERSONS TO BE HEARD
Henry Aron, 106 Woolf Lane stated he would like to address the
Board. He went on to say that he is the Chairman of the Zoning
Board of Appeals and that he would like to welcome the new Board
members. Mr. Aron stated noted that for sometime he had noticed,
as Chairman of the ZBA, that some of the minutes that have been
taken through this machine have not been well received as to sound
effect. He stated that he would recommend having a different
system installed so that those minutes can be received and then
transcribed as they have been spoken by the public as well as the
members of the boards. It doesn't only benefit the Zoning Board of
i^peals vdiich is most important to have exact voice transmitted but
also to the Planning Board as well as you the Town Board. He
stated that he would like to ask the Supervisor as well as the
members of the Board to consider a system Tdiich would be more
effective for all concerned.
Supervisor Desch replied, we have a proposal from the Engineering
Department involving the replacement, with five speakers located in
front of the board table vdiich he stated he would bring to the
February meeting.
APPOINIMENT TO PLANNING BOARD
Supervisor Desch stated that the Town Board had a recommendation
from the Planning Board on the appointment of a person to fill the
term that became vacant at the end of Edward Mazza's term, Mr.
Mazza no longer expressing interest in continuing. The Planning
Board interviewed two people, Mr. Miller being one of them. The
Supervisor felt many knew Mr. Miller as he is a long term Ithaca
resident vho lives on the Ehnira Road next to Eddydale. We have
not had a Planning Board monber from that area is quite sometime.
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Councilman Bordoni asked if Mr. Miller has had any of this type of
experience, has he sat on any boards prior to this?
Supervisor Desch replied, Mr. Miller has been active in a number of
zoning matters that have taken place in that area. He served a
representative of the area at public hearing on the Eddydale
project.
Councilman Bordoni questioned, he lives locally and work locally,
he doesn't drive out of town. It's very difficult to have a Board
member v^o can't make the meetings, it leaves a tremendous amoxmt
of responsibility on those other Board members v^o are always there
^ and he stated that he hated to see that type of situation happen.
Councilman Bartholf responded, that Mr. Miller is a local real
estate broker.
Supervisor Desch added, the Planning Board is very rigorous in
their screening. They do a thorough job.
Councilwonan Raffensperger stated that she thought it would be very
helpful, eventhough we rely very heavily on the Planning Board for
these recommendations, if preceding this coming on the agenda we
received the material the Planning Board had. She stated that she
knew that the Planning Board required a resume and it might be
helpful to the Town Board to have that.
PESOLUTICa^ NO. 6
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Supervisor Desch,
WHEREAS, the Town of Ithaca Planning Board interviewed two
candidates for the vacant position on the Planning Board,
NOW TEffiREPORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca hereby appoints Robert Miller to a seven year term on the
Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni, and
Cardman voting Aye. Nays - none).
PUBLIC HEARING TO COSfSIDER AMENDING THE ORDINANCE REGULATING
TRAFFIC AND PARKING IN THE TCWN OF ITHACA
Proof of posting and publication of a notice of a public hearing to
consider amending the Ordinance regulating traffic and parking in
the Town of Ithaca having been presented the TOwn Clerk, the
Supervisor opened the public hearing.
Supervisor Desch noted that the proposal had been under
consideration for sometime.
Town Attorney Barney remarked, we draft one ordinance and then
there were seme stop signs that were missing and then Councilwoman
Raffensperger brought to our attention the fact that we had omitted
some parking restrictions in the Eastern Heights area so we put
those in and the brought it back tonight. He went on to say that
today he was talking with Bob Flumerfelt he stated that the people
on Roat Street desire to have some prohibitions against parking on
the portion of Roat Street that runs westerly frcxn Blackstone
Avenue to the end. i^parently there have been some difficulties up
there with parties and a fair amount of parking problems. There
are two ways we can go tonight, the one you are actually
considering, the one the notice was given for, is the one version
of this that does not have the phrase "with Roat Street added" at
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the top. He went on to say that he wanted the Board to loiow there
is a problem on Roat Streeet. After discussing this with Mr.
Flumerfelt the thought was that the Board might want to set a date
for a public hearing on the Roat Street condition and notify the
people in the Roat Street area so they can ccme in and indicate
vhat they would prefer. Roat Street is fairly naixow and he was
not sure if they would want to have parking prohibited on both
sides, twenty-four hoiirs a day or sanething less than that, or just
on one side.
Supervisor Desch remarked, then your idea is to adopt this one?
Town Attorney Barney replied, well because we are just getting it
to you you can't adopt it tonight but you can go ahead and hold the
public hearing.
Supervisor Desch asked, v^ch one?
Town Attorney Barney replied, the one for the ordinance absent Roat
Street, that's the one public notice was given for.
Supervisor Desch replied right, and that we have had it long enough
to adopt.
Town Attorney Barney replied, the one you have tonight is the first
one that has Eastern Heights conditions in it.
Supervisor Desch replied, can't we do it on an emergency basis
recognizing that we would like to enforce it?
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked, the one we had before, without
Roat Street, has Sharlene Drive and the Eastern Heights
restrictions in it.
^ Supervisor Desch remarked yes, that's vdiy he was a little bit
puzzled. He knew Roat Street was the new kid on the block.
Town Attorney Bcimey replied, there has been a resolution in effect
for Eastern Heights. There has been some confusion, right after
the last meeting vdien these came up there were two ordinances we
were going to deal with. One is the one we just did without
conditions which he drafted right after the meeting. Bob was going
to give him the information on the stop signs but for seme reason
he did not get it so it wasn't imtil he started looking at the
information for the meeting tonight that he realized we might not
have a current ordinance to deal with tonight so that is the reason
he went back and redid this.
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked that she had two ordinances,
both have Eastern Heights on them, one does not have Roat Street.
Town Attorney Barney replied, that perhaps he may have already done
it.
Supervisor Desch agreed, it had already been done. He then asked
if anyone in the public wished to speak in favor of or against the
amendments to the traffic and parking ordinance which fundamentally
has added Coddington Road, no parking, has added some stops signs
„ in Forest Home that was the subject of previous hearings, has
ratified basically the no parking prohibition in Eastern Heights
but has not at this point included Roat Street but v^ch would at a
later date.
As no one present wished to speak for or against the proposal, the
Supervisor closed the public hearing.
Town Board 18 January 11, 1988
RESOLUTION NO. 7
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilvonan Raffensperger,
ORDINANCE AMENDING AND RESTATING
ORDINANCE REGULATING TRAFFIC AND
PARKING IN THE TCWN OF ITHACA
Pursuant to Section 130 of the Town Law of the State of New York,
Section 1660 of the Vi^icle and Traffic Law of the State of New
York, the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca, Torapkins County, New
York, does ordain and enact as follows:
Section 1. Territory Affected. This ordinance shall be applicable
to all territory within the Town of Ithaca outside of the
incorporated Village of Cayuga Heights.
Section 2. Superseding and Amending of Prior Ordinances. This
ordinance amends and restates the traffic ordinance of the Town of
Ithaca adopted September 7, 1961 effective September 26, 1961 and
all amendments thereto and to the extent the provisions of said
earlier ordinances conflict with the ordinance as set forth herein,
this ordinance shall govern.
Section 3. Parking Vehicles. The parking of motor vehicles or any
part thereof on the paved portion of Town highways, or upon the
shoulder or upon or in any ditch adjoining said highways, is
prohibited in all of the following locations:
(a) Cto both sides of Mclntyre Place.
(b) On both sides of Judd Falls Road from its intersection
with Tower Road to its intersection with Forest Home
Drive.
(c) On both sides of Pleasant Grove Road from the Village of
Cayuga Heights line to the intersection with Forest Hcxne
Drive (Route 392).
(d) On both sides of Snyder Hill Road from the Town of Dryden
line to the intersection with Pine Tree Road.
(e) On both sides of Judd Falls Road from Route 366 southerly
to the railroad overpass.
(f) On the west side of Coddington Road frcm the intersection
of Coddington Road with the center line of the Ithaca
College Road northerly 110 feet fron said intersection.
(g) On the south side of Mitchell Street from the Town of
Ithaca line easterly to Pine Tree Road.
(h) On the north side of Mitchell Street from the Town of
Ithaca easterly to Judd Falls Road.
(i) On both sides of Judd Falls Road frcm its intersection
with Ttower Road to its intersection with New York State
Route 366.
(j) On both sides of Sharlene Drive frcm Snyder Hill Road to
Eastern Heights Drive during the hours of 1:00 A.M. to
6:00 A.M., daily.
(k) On both sides of Eastern Heights Drive frcm Sharlene
Drive to the now or future Town road running southerly
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from Eastern Heights Drive shown as futiire Nancy Street
on the Town of Ithaca tax maps, during the hours of 1:00
A.M. to 6:00 A.M., daily.
(1) Section 4. Stopping of Motor Vehicles. The stopping of
motor vehicles, other than in accordance with erected
traffic control devices, or as may be required by traffic
conditions, is prohibited in the following locations:
(a) Buttermilk Falls Road West in its entirety.
(b) Buttermilk Falls Road East in its entirety.
Section 5. Stop Signs. The intersections enumerated on Schedule A
annexed hereto are designated as stop intersections and stop signs
are ordered installed at the entrance to such intersections as set
forth on Schedule A.
Section 6. Yield Signs. The intersections set forth on the
annexed Schedule B are designated as yield intersections and yield
signs are ordered installed at entrances to such intersections as
set forth in Schedule B.
Section 7. Penalties.
(a) Any violations of Sections 3 and 4 shall constitute a
traffic infraction and any persons violating the same shall be
deemed guilty of a traffic infraction and shall be punishable by a
fine of not more than $50.00 or by imprisonment for not more than
15 days or by both such fine and imprisonment.
(b) Failure to observe the signs erected in accordance with
Sections 5 or 6 shall be treated as a traffic infraction and shall
be punished as set forth in the Vehicle and Traffic Law of the
State of New York.
Section 8. This ordinance shall be effective 10 days after
publication and posting in accordance with Section 133 of the Town
Law.
SCHEDULE A - STOP SIGNS
On Birchwood Drive at Salem Drive
On Birchwood Drive North at Salem Drive
On Blackstone Avenue at Roat Street, eastbound approach
On Blackstone Avenue at Roat Street, westbound approach
On Blackstone Avenue at Christopher Lane
On Brandywine Drive at Christopher Lane
On Cairpbell Avenue at Brookfield Road
On Christopher Circle (east end) at Christopher Lane
Christopher Circle (west end) at Christopher Lane
On Concord Place at Burleigh Drive
On Coy Glen Road at Elm Street Extension
On Deerfield Place at Salem Drive
On Deefield Place at Winston Drive
On Dove Drive at its easterly intersection with Snyder Hill Road
On Dove Drive at its westerly intersection with Snyder Hill Road
On Drew Road at Woodgate Lane
On Forest Home Drive at Caldwell Road
On Forest Hone Drive at Judd Falls Road, eastbound approach
On Forest Hone Drive at Judd Falls Road, westbound approach
On Forest Home Drive at Pleasant Grove Road, westbound approach
On Forest Home Drive at Warren Road, eastbound approach
On Forest Home Drive at Warren Road, westbound approach
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On Glenside Road at Coy Glen Road
On Haller Boulevard at Elm Street Extension
On Harwick Road at Wildflower Drive
On Judd Falls Road at Tower Road, northbound approach
On Judd Falls Road at Tower Road, southboxmd approach
On Judd Falls Road at Arboretum Road
On Lexington Drive East at Burleigh Drive
On Lexington Drive West at Burleigh Drive
On Lisa Place at Lisa Lane
On Longview Drive at Poole Road
On Maplewood Drive at Salem Drive
On Mclntyre Place at Judd Falls Road
On Mclntyre Place at Forest Home Drive
On Penny Lane at Abbey Road, eastbound approach
On Regency Lane at Snyder Hill Road
On Renwick Place at its northerly intersection with NYS Route 34B
On Renwick Place at its southerly intersection with NYS Route 34B
On Rosehill Road at Muriel Street
On Rosehill Road at Winston Drive
On St. Catherine Circle at Siena Drive
On Simsbury Drive at Brandywine Drive
On Stravberry Hill Road at Wildflower Drive
On Sugarbush Lane at Snyder Hill Road
On Sycamore Drive at Salem Drive
On Tareyton Drive at Rosehill Road, northbound approach
On Tareyton Drive at Rosehill Road, southbound approach
On Terraceview Drive at Honness Lane
On The Byway at its easterly intersection with Forest Home Drive
On T3ie Byway at its westerly intersection with Forest Hcame Drive
On Townline Road at Sandbank Road
On Valley View Road at Elm Street Extension
On Vera Circle at its northerly intersection with Woodgate Lane
On Vera Circle at its southerly intersection with Woodgate Lane
On West Haven Road at Elm Street Extension
On Wildflower Drive at Honness Lane
On Winston Court at Winston Drive
On Winston Court where the southerly portion of Winston Court
running east and west intersects the westerly portion of
Winston Court running north and south
On Winston Court at the southerly end of the middle portion of
Winston Court vhich runs north and south
On Winston Court at the northerly end of the middle portion of
Winston Court which runs north and south
On Winston Court vbere the easterly end of the southerly portion of
Winston Court running east and west intersects the easterly
portion of Winston Court running north and south
On Winston Drive at Salem Drive
On Woodgate Lane at Poole Road
On V^ckoff Road at Renwick Heights Road
SCHEDULE B - YIELD SIQ^S
On Blackstone Avenue at Siena Drive
On Brandywine Drive at Winthrop Drive
Dove Drive, southbound appraoch, at the east end of Pheasant
Lane
On Eastern Heights Drive at Joanne Drive
On Eastern Heights Drive at Sharlene Drive, westbound approach
On Eastern Heights Drive at Sharlene Drive, eastbound approach
On Elm Street Extension at Culver and Poole Roads
On Grove Place at Grove Road
On Grove Road at Woolf Lane
On Hickory Place at Juniper Drive
On Hickoiy Place at Pineview Terrace
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On Landmark Drive at Eastern Heights Drive
On Landmark Drive at Park Lane
On Lisa Lane at Texas Lane
On Maplewood Drive at Pinewood Drive
On Orchard Street at Roat Street
On Kendall Avenue at Pennsylvania Avenue
On Penny Lane at Abbey Road, westbound approach
On Pheasant Lane at Dove Drive, westbound approach
On Pineview Terrace at Juniper Drive
One Pinewood Place at Birchwood Drive North
On Renwick Drive at Renwick Heights Road
On St. Catherine Circle at Blackstone Avenue
On Sandra Place at Winthrop Drive
On Sharlene Road at Snyder Hill Road
On Sharlene Road at Tudor Road
On Sky-Vue Road at Snyder Hill Road
On Snyder Hill Road at Pine Tree Road
On Stone Quarry Road at King Road West
On Sycamore Drive at Pinewood Drive
On Tudor Road at Park Lane
On Winson Court at Salem Drive
Supervisor Desch called for a roll call vote.
Councilman Bartholf Voting Aye
Councilman Bordoni Voting Aye
Councilman Cardman Voting Aye
Coimcilwoman Leary Voting Aye
Councilman McPeak Voting Aye
Councilwcxnan Raffensperger Voting Aye
Sx:^rvisor Desch Voting Aye
The Resolution was thereupon declared duly adopted.
RESOLUTION NO. 8
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded Councilman Bartholf,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca will meet and
conduct a piablic hearing at 7:00 P.M., on Febiruaiy 8, 1988 to
consider amending the Traffic and Parking Ordinance in the Town of
Ithaca to include Roat Street.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none).
WATER ACCOUNT REFUNDS
RESOLUTION NO. 9
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Councilman Bartholf,
WHEREAS, Joseph Barden paid the June and Septotiber water bills for
PMBt 301 Tareyton Drive twice,
NOW TEiEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the TOwn Board of the Town of
Ithaca hereby authorize a refund of $49.13 for water, $4.91 for
water surcharge, $23.77 for sewer and $3.44 for sewer surcharge,
total refund of $81.25, be made to Joseph Barden, 106 Salon Drive,
Ithaca, New York, Account Number T-1536.
Town Board 22 January 11, 1988
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leairy, Bordoni, and
Cardrnan voting Aye. Nays - none).
RESOLUTION NO. 10
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilman McPeak,
WEffiREAS, Leon Ditziel paid his December 1, 1987 water bill and then
paid his final bill v^ch included the December 1, 1987 water bill
for the property at 120 Ridgecrest Road,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca hereby authorize a refund of $18.63 for water, $1.86 for
water surcharge, $18.50 for sewer and $1.30 for sewsr sxurcharge,
total refund of $40.29, be made to Leon Ditziel, 17123 Horizon
Lane, Pt. Charolette, Florida 33948, Account Number F-640.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none).
VOTING DELEGATE AND ALTERNATE DELEGATE FOR ASSOCIATION OF TCWN
MEETING
RESOLUTION NO. 11
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilman Cardman,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
designates Henry Aron to attend the annual Business Session of the
Association of Towns of the State of New York, to be held at New
York City, on Februa3:y 17, 1988 and to cast the vote of the
aforesaid Town, pursuant to Section 6 of Article III of the
Constitution and Laws of said Association, and
FURTHER BE IT RESOLVED, that in the absence of the person so
designated, Noel Desch has been designated to cast the vote of said
Town.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none).
TOWN BOARD MINUTES
Supervisor Desch noted that the new Board meaiibers might wish to
abstain as obviously they were not members at that time.
RESOLUTIC»J NO. 12
Motion by Councilwotian Raffensperger; seconded by Councilman
Bartholf,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby approve
the Town Board minutes of Nov€an±)er 16, 1987, November 19, 1987 and
December 7, 1987 Town Board meetings as presented by the Town
Clerk.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf and Leary voting Aye. Nays
- none. Abstaining - Bordoni and Cardman.)
TOWN OF ITHACA WARRANTS
Tcfwn Board 23 January 11, 1988
Supervisor Desch stated that he would like to add, to the Warrants,
the second payment to Hill Construction Cortpany, the contractor
building the Hospital Access Road, in the amount of $29,343.61.
The reason this was not added to the Warrant is because we are
struggling with the method of reimbursement from the Hospital, the
Professional Building and the County. Rather than billing them for
their share up front, the Town will pay the amount, v^ich is due
the contractor.
RESOLUTION NO. 13
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilwoman Raffensperger,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby approves
the Town of Ithaca Warrants dated January 11, 1988, in the
following accounts:
General Fund - Town Wide $ 49,805.88
General Fund - Outside Village $ 36,966.73
Water & Sewer Fund $247,026.75
Highway Fund $ 12,588.44
Capital Projects Fund $113,916.09
Lighting District Fund $ 438.32
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none)
BOLTON POINT WARRANTS
RESOLUTiaSI NO. 14
Motion by Supeirvisor Desch; seconded by Coimcilwcman Raffensperger,
RESOLVED, that the Bolton Point Warrants dated January 11, 1988, in
the Operating Account are hereby approved, in the amount of
$78,365.94 after review and upon the reccmmendation of the Southern
Cayuga Lake Interraunicipal Water Ccnmission, they are in order for
payment.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none).
COMPUTER FOR ENGINEERING DEPAKEMENT
RESOLUTIOJ NO. 15
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Councilman Ca2:dman,
WHEREAS, the Town Board, at the October 5, 1987 Town Board meeting,
authorized purchase of two computers with accessories for the
Planning Department and Engineering Depa3±ment, and
WHEREAS, purchase of the ccnputer for the Engineering Department
was not done in 1987 and funds allocated for this purpose have
reverted to the closing fund balance for General Fund Townwide, and
WHEREAS, the staff would now like to proceed with the purchase of
the computer for the Engineering Department,
i
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca herby authorize a 1988 budget amendment transferring $3,000
from General Fund Townwide A1990.4 Contingency to A1440.201
Engineering Equipment.
Town Board 24 January 11, 1988
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardmon
voting Aye. Nays - none).
LEXINGTON DRIVE
Supervisor Desch noted that the Letter of Credit for Lexington
Drive needs to be released now that the developer has ccnpleted the
work and secondly to accept the road.
Town Attorney Barney remarked that he was a little troubled about
releasing the entire Letter of Credit as he was not aware that the
deed had been reviewed.
Supervisor Desch asked the Town Attorney vAiat amount would he
reccanranend be released?
Town Attorney Barney replied, release $13,000 and hold $1,000. And
we might add to the resolution that the Town Si^rvisor be
authorized to release the $1,000 upon the approval of the Town
Attorney so you won't have to cotie back to the Board again.
RESOLUTION NO. 16
tfotion by Councilman Bordoni; seconded by Councilman Bartholf,
WHEREAS, Lexington Drive between the existing conpleted easterly
and westerly sections of Lexington Drive has been ccmpleted to Town
Highway specification, and
WHEREAS, Harry Hamilton, Esq., has requested release of the Letter
of Credit for highway corpletion in the name of the Schoenfeld
estate,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca hereby authorize the release of $13,000 of the $14,000
Letter of Credit for satisfactory ccarpletion of Lexington Drive,
and
RESOLVED, that the east-west section of Lexington Drive (conpleting
Lexington Drive in its entirety) be accepted as a Town Highway upon
transfer of a warranty deed acceptable in form to the Town
Attorney, and
FURTHER BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes the
Supervisor to release the additional $1,000 upon the approval of
the Town Attorney.
(Desch, McPeak Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none).
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL LAND
USE DISTRICT ON EAST SHORE DRIVE FOR THE TOMPKINS COUNTY CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE AND RELATED USES
Proof of posting and publication of a notice of a public hearing to
consider a local law establishing a Special Land Use District on
East Shore Drive for the Torapkins County Chamber of Commerce and
related uses having been presented by the Town Clerk, the
Supervisor opened the public hearing.
Supervisor Desch remarked, first on the matter of the environmental
review and the notice on the part of the Town of the determination
of conditional negative declaration.
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Doria Higgins, 2 Hillcrest Drive stated that she was speaking for
Citizens to Save Stewart Park. Ms. Higgins then read the following
statonent:
"There are four points on vdiich we would like to touch tonight.
Some concern City actions and seme concern Town actions, but as you
all know the City and Town are so intertwined on this project tiat
is is difficult to separate them.
One. Some of you have argued that because the City park land
involved in this rezoning project is on the periphery of the park
that the park will not be adversely affected. The park will be
adversely affected. At the present time the park land in question
serves as a very important green buffer zone for the park fran
Route 34. To change this buffer zone into an asphalt access road
and parking lot for to 81 campers and Winnebagos an hour is most
certainly going to affect the park. To tear down the vines and
undergrowth that shield the park from the inconspicuous buildings
on the Bowman lot and to construct a building built a half stoiry
above groimd as is the Youth Bureau is most certainly going to
intrude upon the feeling of seclusion one now experiences in
Stewart Park.
The 1984 Master Plan for Stewart Park says "Overcrowding is
increasing in seriousness and frequency." Why then should we make
it a mandatory waystop for every tourist and his caitper and
Winnebago v^o just wants to find lodgings or maps or other
information? The present tourist booth functions beautifully in
that the tourist does not need to park and stay. He can drive up,
pick up his information and drive on. Please let us leave Stewart
Park the quiet oasis it still is for the people, tourist included,
v^o want to go there to enjoy its peacefulness and beauty. Stewart
Park was given to the City in 1921 by Major Stewart for the
recreational use of the City. It was not given to City Hall to
dispense to private organizations no matter how worthvdiile those
organizations be.
It offends our sense of dotiocracy to see a group of mature
successful business men and women being given not only a handout
from the City but a handout vdiich entails taking away from the
public part of a much loved public park. And the fact that the
ccmmunity from vdicm this piece of parkland is being taken includes
large numbers of the disenfranchised vdio most need our parks, makes
it even more offensive.
TwD. The City as the request of Citizens to Save Stewart Park will
be writing the New York State Attorney General to address the
question of v^ether the City has the authority to license park land
to a private non-profit organization under conditions v^ich seem to
indicate a longer period than the term of the one year revocable
license. It seems to us that imtil this question is answered that
any action you will take here tonight is premature.
Three. We would like tonight to correct an incorrect statment we
made to the Town Planning Board, a misstatement we made because we
had ourselves been misinformed by the City. We think the facts
involved are imfortxmately characteristic of the lack of clarity
and forthrightness of the Chamber/Stewart Park project. On October
6 we told the Town Planning Board that the City had not prepared an
Environmental Assessment Form before Common Council in June had
voted the resolution making Stewart Park land available to the
Chamber. We said this with some surety because on July 9th we had
asked the City Clerk for a copy of the EAF if there was one. In
September not having heard further about the matter we followd up
our written request with a telephone call and the City Clerk then
telephoned Mr. Daugherty of BPW v^o told her no EAF had been
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ccstpleted. So we spoke confidently at the October Town Planning
Board meeting. It was not until November 20 that we were informed
by the City Clerk that she had just received notification froti BPW
that there was an EAF dated — six months earlier — May 28, 1987.
This short EAF does not mention that the land involved is park land
or that park land is nearby. It identifies the location as "Comer
Lake Street (Route 34) and James L. Gibbs Drive." There is one
question, question 9 that specifically asks "What is present land
use in vicinity of project?" and then lists various categories of
land use including "parkland/open space" with a circle beside each
category to be checked if the facts so indicate. On the May 28 EAF
there is no checkmark next to "parkland/open space." By not
putting a checkmark next to that category the answer clearly
falsely irrplies that parkland is not "in the vicinity of the
project."
Four. The fourth and final point we would like to bring up tonight
is a technicality involving DEC New York Codes and Regulations and
according to \^ich your November rewriting of the Conditional
Negative Determination of Environmental Significance for the
proposed new Special Land Use District now makes mandatory the
drafting of an Environmetal Impact Statement before further action
on the proposal can be taken.
Let me quote from NYCR 617.6h on pages 18-19. It reads, "A draft
Environmental Inpact Statement must be prepared if corments are
received regarding the proposed c.n.d. v^ich would support a
positive declaration concerning:
1.previously identified or newly raised significant
environmental inpact; or
ii. the need for the examination of the adequacy of the
proposed mitigation measures."
Because section b. of the rewritten c.n.d. brings up that in the
eventucility of the City either not granting a license for the use
of the park land, or in the event that such license is initially
granted but is not renewed by the City, than a revised plan would
be submitted to the Town, such revised plan to show provisions for
adequate parking at another location or modification of the
proposed use of Tax Parcel 6-18-2-10 so that parking and access
adequacy can be maintained on that parcel.
But we know that this is all non sequitur. There is no other
parking available at the present time nearby. We know the lot is
too small to contain the parking required. So what is going to
happen if the park land is not available? According to the people
we spoke to at the Department of Environmental Conservation this
issue now has to be examined because it has been raised by the
c.n.d. and it has to be examined with preparation of an E.l.S.
Five. And we object to spot zoning no matter v^at it is called -
and rezoning a 60* wide lot without context of a catprehensive plan
is spot zoning even if it is call a Special Land Use District."
Paul Sayvetz, 201 Elm Street stated he has been opposed to the
location of the Chamber of Ccmmerce at that site, every since he
knew about it. He went on to say that he had spoken to the City of
Ithaca, etc., and he wanted the Board to know that theire is not a
strong concensus in favor of this, there was sort of a split vote
on the City Council and he felt it passed because people like the
idea of Chamber of Ccmmerce vdiich is a positive force in the
ccraraunity and no body wants to vote against the Chamber of
Conmerce. This is obviously not a smart place, it's way to small a
site for them and he stated that he doesn't want to see us letting
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people have driveways across Stewart Park. Stewart Park is very
heavily used already, there is heavy growth in the Ithaca area, the
park is going to be under greater and greater load frcm people
wanting to use it. It's not the time to let sane one put a
driveway across there so that people can pull their Winnebagos and
their speed boat trailers and etc., across a comer of the park.
He stated that he just felt it was inappropriate and that the lot
was way to small for vdiat the Chamber of Ccmmerce needs and it is
not true that there are no alternative sites. They have just
decided that that's vdiere they want to be. They want to be next to
a park, and he didn't blame them for this, as he would like to be
next to a park also. It's an unwise place for the Chamber of
Commerce to locate because the site is too small and he urged the
Board to do their part by not passing the resolution.
Supervisor Desch stated that he would like to go down through Ms.
Higgins points. He went on to say that looking at the Chamber site
plans and addressing specifically the question as to \^ether the
access drive that the Chamber will use and the parking that they
will use are actually park land. It is a little bit troublesome
that nobody has produced a resolution from the City designating
that land as park land.
Ms. Higgins replied that she felt this was significant. The
resolution carefully just says City land, right along but the
boundary of the park land was the old Cayuga Street extended.
Supervisor Desch replied, there is a problem with that because the
land that was dedicated by Mr. Stewart does not include that parcel
because the Naval Reserve Center was there and the Navel Reserve
Center was given to the City of Ithaca v^en the center was closed.
The reason \diy he felt there was nothing in the City records
designating that as park land was because when the Tin Can was
still there, the City was very unhappy because the parcel was not
tax exeirpt. The City had the opportunity to get it tax exempt by
designating it as park land but it chose not to do so. Instead the
City came to the Town and worked out an amangement \^er^y the
City annexed it and we annexed, as you know, seme adjoining land.
So that's why he feels it's very accurate to say that there is
nothing, and it's really the City's business not the Town's
business so much but it does have an impact obviously on what you
are saying, so he didn't think it was appropriate to call it park
land.
Ms. Higgins replied, v^ere the old Navel Reserve was, the old Tin
Can, is not park land, that was on the other side of Cayuga Street
Extended.
Supervisor Desch disagreed, showing Ms. Higgins on the map the area
in question.
Ms. Higgins replied, what she was going by here, is the City Tax
Assessors office.
Supervisor Desch replied, the parcels are part of vihat was the
Navel Reserve Center that was given to the City, well not given,
the City paid $1.00 for them.
Ms. Higgins remarked, the City considers it park land and if you
remember that question was asked the night Jon Meigs was here. The
question was asked at the Planning Board, she stated that she had
forgotten his wording but the sense was that it certainly was park
land. It's park land according to the Tax Assessors office and if
her conversation with Mayor Gutenberger yesterday is correct, they
are writing to the Attorney General asking v^ether the City has,
she couldn't remember the exact wording, but their v^ole question
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was based on its being City park land and she felt they wouldn't
bother to write unless they are assuming that it is City park land.
Supervisor Desch wondered if the question was really relevant
because you have to ask the other question, would the City have
gotten approval to build the new Youth Facility building on park
land?
Doria Higgins replied, its not on park land, the Youth Bureau, but
this is.
Supervisor Desch replied no, if you were to take the tax maps and
overlay it you would see this parking lot and the new Youth
Facility Building are superiirposted right on the old Naval Reserve.
Ms. Higgins replied, part of the new parking lot is on the old
Naval Reserve land, you are right there, but the majority of the
parking lot that we are discussing, that she called Stewart Park
land, and the access road is on park land. It is an irrportant
question that you are bringing up but it is one that she has
researched and the answer that she came up with is that it is park
land. She was given that answer that at this time the old Cayuga
Street was the definition of park and the Youth Bureau building is
built right up to that line. That is almost the exact line of
their boimdary of old Cayuga Street extended. The northern side of
Cayuga Street extended is the park land.
Supervisor Desch remarked, in actuality it either almost has to be
part of the original Naval Reserve site or within the bed of the
old highway.
Ms. Higgins went on to say that the old Tin Can, where ever it was
on this map, is not park land, the Youth Bureau is not park land
there is no argument there.
Supervisor Desch replied, that he thought Ms. Higgins would find
out that the parking was well within the Tin Can site.
Ms. Higgins replied, not according to her understanding.
Councilman Bordoni, speaking to Mr. Sayvetz stated that he
questioned the statement he had made earlier about the City vote
being very close.
Mr. Sayvetz responded that he did not remember vhat the vote was.
Councilman Bordoni replied that he thought it was six to three and
that he thought that if one of the Councilpersons that was not in
attendance could have been in attendance, and this was his opinion
only, the vote would have been seven to three.
Councilman Bordoni, addressing Ms. Higgins stated that he would
like to ask one question vhich really troubled him, who came up
with this figure of 81 cairpers and Winnebagos an hour, or is that a
year?
Ms. Higgins replied, the Chamber of Commerce came up with it.
Susan Beeners remarked, that was the figure that was concurred on
by the architects and by our office as the maximum peak hours of
traffic as one might expect during that peak hours in the summer
time. It's not an average count.
Councilman Bordoni remarked, 81 seems like an unreasonably hi^
number.
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Town Planner Beeners replied, that seemed reasonable for people
caning in and asking for information, using the rest roans, perhaps
seeing a tourist display and then leaving. The amount of parking
provided here in the twenty seven spaces seemed to be appropriate
for that short term use that would be expected by tourists.
Supervisor Desch asked how that carpared with the number
experienced now with the present tourist information booth?
Mr. Sciarabba replied, with the six or seven months that the
tourist booth is open, he thought it was 14,000 visitors total
visited the booth this year. It's open seven days a week for about
nine hours per day. Add the figure that each car contains two to
two and one-half people per car we are talking a thousand cars,
about five per hour we figure would be the average.
Supervisor Desch remarked that he thought it would be a major
advantage having that traffic circulating outside of the park
rather than inside \^ch is vbat it does now.
Doria Higgins replied, no.
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked if the Board was going to address
sane of these technical questions?
Town Attorney Barney responded, we have talked with Mr. Lockrow a
couple of times on questions and each time that he has talked with
him his response is maybe you better talk with the attorney for the
DEC. The Town Attorney went on to say that as he reads the
regulations that are cited here, it says the draft EIS must be
prepared if catiments are received which support the positive
declaration. His sense of it he said was that it was new
information that is required and his sense of the discussion
tonight was that the information tonight was not new or different
information than v^en the conditional negative declaration was
issued initially. But that is a decision the Board will have to
make.
Ms. Higgins questioned, isn't this in a sense vdiat he was saying to
me today, that your negative declaration brings vsp new questions
that have not been answered by you. That by your bringing up the
contingency that the City may not grant a license or the
contingency that the City may grant the license and then revoke it,
that those are two contingencies that you have not addressed and
needs to be addressed within the boundaries of this c.n.d.
Town Attorney Barney replied, they have been addressed, and they
have been addressed in two ways. One is that they have said on one
hand there will be additional parking provided on sane other
location or the use of the lot that is involved will be changed in
sane fashion to reduce the need for additional parking. That's
specifically in the c.n.d. There is a two prong test, so that he
felt it was saying, obviously no one knows vhat is going to happen,
the City oDuld presumably give a twenty year license and change it
the next week or the next year or a lot of changes in seme fashion.
We don't know v4iat will happen but we have built in with the
conditional negative declaration here a two prong alternative
arrangement. Either there is additional parking provided at seme
other source or there is a change in use vMch reduces the need for
the parking.
Ms. Higgens replied, he uses the term, he said the Town has boxed
themselves in with this and his understanding was that you have not
made an examination of these contingencies and that now it has to
be done. Addressing the Town Attorney she remarked, you know
better than I that I am no authority on this at all and that she
Town Board 30 January 11, 1988
was just trying to repeat the sense. However, he seemed very sure
that there was this need now.
Town Attorney Barney replied, that he reads it exactly the
opposite, the TOwn has considered these contingencies and has
looked at a possibility of how to rectify them. He stated that he
was not a tremendous expert either but that he had found Mr.
Lockrow, regardless of the source of his employment, is not that
good an expert either in tenns of vhat he says and then you talk to
the counsel office and you get some what of a different
interpretation. So, we are all kind of feeling our way here and
the ultimate decider of this is seme judge at seme court, at what
ever level it happens to get taken to. He stated that his
interpretation of v^t was done with this conditional negative
declaration and the regulations that this complies with the
regulations.
Supervisor Desch asked the Town Planner vdiat other comments were
received during the thirty day period?
Town Planner Beeners replied, none. She did want to say that her
conversations with Mr. Lockrow about this, he concurred that this
condition regarding the licensing \drLch does set forth alternatives
and is very specific was an appropriate condition for the Town to
be concluding in the negative declaration.
Ms. Higgins asked the Town Planner if she had talked to Mr. Lockrow
today?
Town Planner Beeners replied, it was before the start of the New
Year, prior to her handing out the material on the negative
declaration.
Ms. Higgins remarked, the reason that she was asking was because
they had gone into it in such detail today, we were on the phone
about an hour.
The Town Planner continued the only other ccmraent that was
received, was prior to the November 17th c.n.d. vhen the October
16th c.n.d. was in place. She noted that she received a letter
fron Dooley Kiefer questioning this same matter as to whether it
was appropriate to condition a negative determination on something
that would be done by another agency at another time. Ms. Beeners
stated that she had written to Mrs. Kiefer and expressed to her
vhat she had just said that the alternatives were set up and these
were the specific types of conditions that were meant to be in
conditional negative declarations, they are out of the ordinary.
However, alternative solutions are set forth in here as mitigating
measures. The other comments that she had during the c.n.d. public
comment period have been received from Doria Higgins for the
Citizens to Save Stewart Park, one being something that was
received at the last meeting and then tonight is an additional item
falling outside the public comment period. That is the extent of
the comments.
Councilman Caldman remarked you got this opinion from the gentleman
that you talked today Doria? He then asked the Town Attorney if he
had actually talked to Counsel to get their opinion on his
interpretation of vhat we are hearing tonight?
Town Attorney Barney replied not on this issue, no. The
communication on that has been between the Town Planner and Mr.
Lockrow. He stated that he was referring to other occassions vhere
we have called Mr. Lockrow and he has said, in effect, you are
asking me a question I can't understand or can't answer you better
Town Board 31 January 11, 1988
talk to Counsel. No body has talked to Counsel at DEC on this
particular issue, as far as I know.
Councilvonan Raffenspeirger asked the Town Attorney if he felt it
would be wise for the scmeone to talk to Counsel?
Town Attorney Barney replied, it's always nice to have sonebody
else either support you or take a position contrary, at least you
know the position is contrary and they have the expertise. On the
other hand, he noted, you often find is that they give you an
opinion but you say would you mind putting that in writing and they
are reluctant to put it in writing and what it comes right down to
^o is going to defend the Town's action? It's us or somebody that
you choose for that purpose so on one hand he stated he wouldn't
mind getting it but on the other hand with the time that has gone
into this he wondered whether we wanted to wait another month to
take action.
Supervisor Desch asked if anyone else wished to comment? There
being none he declared the public hearing closed.
The Supervisor went on to say that the other aspect of it is the
environmental review has been carried on over many months, since
June, so the record both at this Board level and the Planning Board
level have been very substantial. The next step is to make a
detennination of non-significance.
Town Attorney Barney remarked, you have already done that. The
question is whether you want to reopen your conditional negative
declaration and make a positive declaration.
Town Planner Beeners ronarked, it has to deal with this language in
here, vhether the Board has to reaffirm not that the 30 catment
period has expired.
Councilwonan Raffensperger remarked, quite apart frcm the
technicalities, scmebody tell me hew this is going to work, this
particular provision that we seem to be most troubled by, if the
City doesn't give the Chamber a license it's easy, we don't give
them a building permit. If, however, the City gives the Chamber a
license then we give them a building permit and they build a
building. What then happens in a practical way, quite apart from
the regulations, if the City recinds or does not renew such a
license for use, vdiat then is the Town's position?
Town Attorney Barney replied, on the site plan in a proposed use
vMch includes that parking, we now have a provision vMch has been
incorporated into the local law that says you have to have that
parking or if you fail to have this parking you have to ccme back
and get a new site plan approval. So the position that he woiild
envision the Town to be in is that the certificate of occupancy,
that will presumably be issued, on the completion of the building
would be subject to revocation if the parking is lost, in v^ch
event at that point, the building use would have to be altered in
seme manner acceptable to the Town to reduce the need for parking.
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked, and does the Chamber understand
that?
Town Attorney Barney replied, that he thought they did. That was
very clear at the Planning Board.
Councilman Bordoni remarked that he would like to offer an
observation. He went on to say that he was extremely familiar with
that area having lived in the downtown flat area of Ithaca for 48
years or so. That used to be his playground, so to speak. He has
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seen a change fran cattails and reeds and swairpland to a better
entrance to Stewart Park. The erection of the new Youth Bureau and
the teciring down of the Tin Can and that patch of green on the
north side of the Tin Can, as the Tin Can sat, \dien it was there
was effectivly a stretch of lawn that reached over to that first
site of the Town of Ithaca vMch is the yellow house vMch he felt
all were familiar with. The yellow and white house vAiich we
probably have all driven by hundreds of thousands of times in our
lifetime. That house sits on a lot that is sixty feet wide and two
hundred feet long. There are two hcmes on that lot, there is a
garage and a shed and the state of repair of those building are in
pretty bad shape. Going in a more northerly direction, on the two
next buildings sites there are two alDandoned hcmes that look like
they are asking for destruction. They should be torn down. They
are an eye sore and probably the worst possible entrance way you
could offer our visitors coming in from the north, especially from
the South Lansing area. It's a pretty sad looking state of
affairs. He went on to say that he could compare it with vtet the
Elmira Road used to look like before the City did a City
beautification project v^re we used to have ditches on both sides
of the roads. We used to find these ditches filled with the fast
food wrappers frcaii the local fast food establishments. The City
took an awful lot of time and effort to redesign that, clear up the
signage, get rid of the ditches, put the proper entrances and exits
to the various businesses along that road and he felt that we, as a
group of people in this room, can say that we would compare our
Elmira Road entrance to the City of Ithaca with any city in New
York State v^en it ccmies to comparing the so called miracle miles.
The miracle mile, the business, the automobile retails and the
restaurants that we have on the Elmira Road could be a disaster and
in many cities they are a disaster, they look just exactly like
that, junk lots, ditches filled with debris, unmanaged properties
that are just not attactive, very unsightly to drive though as you
approach the City. We have done a tremendous amount of work in
that end of town. That leaves the north end of town. Many years
ago, before the New York State marina was built you had pretty much
an unused park that again was swampland. The only people vho could
go in there were fishermen with hip boots and trappers. Today they
have planted that and made it into a beautiful park area so they
have expanded, in fact, the park like setting of the area. We have
made that area as use^l to the people as Stewart Park is. But in
all his life and in all the years he has lived in the Fall Credc
area he can never remember once, as a child, of having any desire
to play on that grassy area east of the railroad tracks. It was
just a non-functioning area. If you go down there today and look
at it, in fact, he went back down there again this noon just to
reestablish it in his mind. It's a deplorable site, if you stood
at the back, the north side of the Youth Bureau building and looked
over that way, there is so much debris and brush and overgrowth,
imcontrolled growth, in there that you cannot see the lake from
that point, the lake is obscured. It's a beautiful lake, we should
be very proud of that lake and we should make that part of the lake
as attractive as we have made the other side of the lake. He went
on to say that he thought that vben you are talking about
eliminating two houses, a garage and a shed that now take up more
land than the proposed building will, if you can use a little
vision and picture that it's going to actually provide you with a
campus like setting with this building in there, everything grassed
and curbed and delineated so that there is clearly a very orderly
look to it. It certainly has to be an improvement compared to vbat
you see there at this time.
Supervisor Desch asked the Town Attorney if he had determined the
action needed, as far as the environmental assessment?
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Town Attorney Barney replied, you could reaffirm it but he thought,
according to the regulations, after hearing ccmraents, in fact at
any time, you have the option of rescinding the conditional
negative declaration. At the present time, as he understood it,
the conditional negative declaration vdiich you adopted at a prior
meeting vdiich had the required ccmraent period of time vAiich has
expired, and it probably wouldn't be bad to have a motion or a
resolution that the conditional negative declaration has been
adopted, duly published and the comient period has expired and it
is reaffirmed, but he was not sure that was really necessary, as
long as you don't rescind it you are operating properly.
Councilwonan Raffensperger stated that she had a c^estion about
number 6"a", \diich she stated she thought she had finally figured
out vdiy it doesn't make sense to her. This is in the local law
v^ere it says, "or in event such a license is not granted or is
granted and not renewed, no building permit shall be issued",
shouldn't that say no certificate of occupancy will be issued or
renewed mtil the revised plan is presented?
Town Attorney Barney replied that's not a bad idea, it could say no
building permit shall be issued and a certificate of occupancy if
issued may be revoked.
RESOLUTION NO. 17
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Councilman Bartholf,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
reaffirms the conditional negative declaration of environmental
significance for the rezoning to a Special Land Use District at
904-906 East Shore Drive for the Tompkins County Chamber of
Commerce and related uses.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Bordoni and Cardman voting
Aye. Nays - Leary).
Supervisor Desch asked for clarification of the wording of the
local law suggested by Councilwoman Raffensperger as to the
amendment.
Town Attorney Barney replied, after the words issued on the sixth
line in subparagraph "a" add (or, if a certificate of occupancy has
been issued it shall be revoked). However, if you amend it in that
fashion he felt, barring and emergency, you need to have it on your
desks for seven days before you can adopt it.
Supervisor Desch asked if it was significant enough to do that?
Town Attorney Barney replied that it was a substantive change. He
stated that he would be uncomfortable certifying it before the
required seven day period.
Supervisor Desch remarked, there could be perhaps a brief noon
meeting.
Town Attorney Barney remarked, each of you should amend the local
law which is setting on your desk so that it can be adopted after
being in final form on your desks for seven days.
RESOLUTION NO. 18
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Comcilman McPeak,
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorizes that the amended local law be considered at a special
meeting of the Board at noon on January 19, 1988.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none).
Councilwosman Leary asked if the piroposal could be discussed, at
this time, so that v^en we meet at noon, it would be nice to get it
over with and the public is here now. She went on to say that she
thought a lot of the discussion about this has been kind of hair
splitting and that she agreed with Councilman Bordoni that the area
would look a lot better if it were cleaned up. But she still
objects to it for broader reasons and she would like to say v^y now
and she would like her statement included in the minutes.
Councilwcman Leary then read the following statement:
"The proposed move of the Chamber of Conmerce away from the
County's central business district signals a refocus in priorities
on the part of the Chamber away from the local conraunity to the
quick and easy dollar of the tourist. Stewart Park should not
become a playground for tourists. Stewart Park is a public natural
resource that should remain primarily for the use and enjoyment of
local residents. 1 don't want to see the Ithaca area become a
mecca for tourism, either. Much has been said about the dollars
infused by tourists, and not enough about the crowding, traffic and
refuse created by transients v^o have no commitment to the area,
contribute nothing in terms of creativity, and place and extra
burden on our public works departments. Heavy dependance on
tourism is the last resort of a community with nothing else to
offer its local economy. 1 don't think Tortpkins County has reached
that point; 1 don't think we need to, or should, develop tourism as
a major industry here.
The Chamber would do better to turn its attention more closely to
retaining the dollars generated by local residents, through better
service, more competitive prices and a wider choice of merchandise.
Thousands of dollars are lost each year as local residents by the
busload choose to spend their Satirrdays shopping outside the
coimty. Clearly, the local market is there, but the demand is not
being met by the local merchants. Retaining those local dollars
should be the first concern of the Chamber, but apparently it's
just too difficult a challenge.
It is in the best interests of the community at large to keep the
businesses and services of the county located generally in the
"county seat," even if that means finding creative ways to cope
with the inconveniences of parking that are an inevitable part of
the urban environment. The City is already experiencing an outward
migration of businesses and services; the Chamber of Commerce's
removal of its offices from the City is a symoblic abandonment of
commitment to the vitality of the downtown area, and another small
be very real diminishment of the City as a hub of activity. It's
not enough to say that if the City doesn't mind and the Chamber
doesn't mind then the Town shouldn't mind. 1 refuse to be part of
that process, and that's vdiy I'm voting no on this proposal."
Supervisor Desch remarked, your feeling being that the Chambers
activity draws people to shopping areas?
Coimcilwcman Leary replied, yes. She felt that the Chamber
activities, the old Social Services being in the City, each of
those contributed to the activity of the City. She has just been
seeing a gradxial chippdLng away of that.
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Supervisor Desch asked, "you don't think that during all this time
the City has had the opportunity to cone up with alternative sites
that would meet the Chambers requirements?"
Coimcilwoman Leary responded that she did not know vAiat the City
had been trying to do, and she did not know vdiat the Chamber had
been trying to do but it seemed to her that. Center Ithaca for
exaitple, and she did not want to go into a v^le long debate about
development in the City but Center Ithaca isn't full. It's still
having trouble paying its rent, paying its taxes. Its right in the
middle of town and you have a parking garage right in the back.
The City is the City, now if the City is having trouble or if the
City has its own problems that's the City's, she just knows that as
a town member she does not want to contribute to that vdiole process
and and she thought this was going to contribute to it. She went
on to say that it's on very broad philosophical basis that she
objects to it.
Supervisor Desch asked if there was any other business to be
discussed.
Town Attorney Barney replied that there were a couple of local laws
that the Board might wish to set public hearings for. One is the
environmental review regulations. The SEQR regulations, by the
State, were revised this suitiner and the Town's regulations should
be brought in conformity with those and we put together a packet of
the new environmental regulations draft. There are two versions
here, we did this to try and make it a little more easy to follow.
The top version has the "marked outs" and the bold face language
vdiich is new language so you will have seme idea v^t the changes
are. Attached is the version which would be adopted if the Board
so agrees. He wondered if the Board wanted to set the date for a
public hearing now or just sit on it for a month.
Councilwcman Raffensperger asked, if we set a public hearing and
for example she has a great deal of interest in sane of the Type I
levels, we set a public hearing and want to change any of those we
just have to do another pi±)lic hearing, right?
Town Attorney Barney replied, right.
Councilwonan Raffensperger questioned, then v^y set it so soon?
Supervisor Desch suggested that the Board try to be ready to set
the public hearing date at the February meeting to adopt at the
March meeting. Be prepared to bring your changes to the February
meeting.
Town Attorney Barney went on to say that we had seme discussions
instituted in part by the fact that we are seeing a tremendous
number of applications, the Planning Board is inundated, the staff
is inundated and the fee structure v^ch the Town has been
operating under for approval of subdivisions, etc., has been
imchanged since the original subdivisions were adopted back in '78
or '79. We have put together a proposed resolution amending those
regulations largely in conjunction with the fee structure. We have
also added satie language suggesting that $40.00 fee be instituted
v^enever a public hearing is required. And we have also suggested
seme language that ties the violation sections into the Town Law
sections so they are the same as the Zoning Ordinance. When we
originally drafted this at a staff meeting, he stated that he was
going to suggest that we specify that the violations in the
Subdivision Regulations would be a specific form of misdemeanor.
When we went back and did seme research on it he felt it made more
sense to type it into Town Law v^ch has an escalating series of
penalties for repeated violations. He also felt that after reading
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Section 268 of Town Law, the actual penalty provisions also shoiild
be adopted by ordinance and he has drafted an ordinance, however,
that part did not get done today but that he would get it to the
Town Clerk for circulation.
Supervisor Desch replied, it might be appropriate to hold a public
hearing on this item in February. It's irrportant with the spring
development activities to have them in place as soon as we can.
Town Attorney Barney noted that years ago the Subdivision
Regulations delegated to the Planning Board the ability to adopt
Subdivision Regulations and they have to hold the public hearings
on this, then they cane back to the Town Board for approval.
Because of the fees, he stated that he was a little concerned about
the Planning Boaird setting the fees and he felt this was really a
Town Board function and that should be done by ordinance.
Supervisor Desch asked if the Planning Board had set the date for a
hearing yet?
Town Planner Beeners replied yes, January 19th.
Supervisor Desch remarked, if we set the hearing for the ordinance
and have an agenda item to consider adoption of this at our
February meeting then that would be consistent.
Town Attorney Barney replied, yes.
RESOLUTION NO. 19
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilwcman Raffensperger,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca will meet and
^ conduct a public hearing at 7:15 P.M., on February 8, 1988 to
consider the adoption of an ordinance setting fees for S\:ibdivision
processing and enforcement of violations of the Subdivision
Regulations.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Bartholf, Leary, Bordoni and Cardman
voting Aye. Nays - none).
Supervisor Desch noted another item coming out of the Codes &
Ordinance Connittee a recommendation having to do with the Zoning
OrddLnance amendment, the wording of non-conforming use provision.
He asked the Board manbers to bring that to the meeting next
Tuesday noon to see if it's feasible to set a public hearing for
the February meeting.
Councilman McPeak noted that he and Councilman Cardman were on the
committee to negotiate the Youth Bureau contract and that some of
the information was missing and that they could not negotiate
without this information. Some of the costs are outlandish, siting
an example of five people making the cost $13,000. Coimcilman
McPeak questioned, we will have more information then before we
begin negotiations?
mm Supervisor Desch replied, you need more information before you can
negotiate but he wasn't sure we would get it from the City.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was duly adjourned.
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