HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB Minutes 1989-07-25 TOWN OF ITHACA
SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING
July 25 , 1989
At a Special Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca ,
Tompkins County , New York , held at the Town Hall , 126 East Seneca
Street , Ithaca , New York , on the 25th day of July , 1989 , there
were
PRESENT : Noel Desch , Supervisor
Shirley Raffensperger , Councilwanan
Robert Bartholf , Councilman
Patricia Leary , Councilwcman
David Klein , Councilman
John Whitcomb , Councilman
ABSENT ; Henry McPeak , Councilman
ALSO PRESENT * John Barney , Town Attorney
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Supervisor led the assemblage in the Pledge of Allegiance .
ZONING ORDINANCE
Supervisor Desch asked if it would not make sense to mail the up to
date copy of the Zoning Ordinance out ?
Town Attorney Barney replied , this is the first draft and that he
had not read it through himself yet , and that he knew there were
some typo and pagination that needed to be changed .
Supervisor Desch replied that he was thinking of the Comprehensive
Planning C:ammi.ttee and the Planning Board and the Town Board and
the Planning Consultant who has a copy of all of the pieces .
Town Attorney Barney replied that he had no objections in sending
it out but. that he wouldn ' t want to print it until everyone has had
a chance to look at it .
Supervisor Desch remarked , if we print it for the public we should
do the map also .
Town Attorney Barney noted that the map referred to in the Zoning
Ordinance is a 1954 map as amended through 1968 . We should adopt
and amendment referring to the map we will be using .
Town Planner Beeners stated that there were sane minor
miscellaneous items that should be corrected at this time .
JOB DESCRIPTIONS
ASSISTANT BUILDING INSPECTOR/ ZONING OFFICER
Supervisor Desch remarked that what the Board has in front of them
are two job descriptions that came out of the Personnel Committee
meting with sam revisi
me ons , last week . He stated that he felt it
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was appropriate to discuss both items together . The timing is
urgent because Laura Predmore has resigned and the Building
Inspector/ Zoning Officer Andrew Frost is holding the fort on his
own . We do have a temporary secretary added to the Zoning ,
Engineering and Planning staff resulting from Laura ' s going to
part-time a couple weeks earlier .
The Supervisor went on to say the the job descriptions are now a
modification of Laura ' s position and the other is adding a
permanent secretary where actually we have been using a part-time
secretary . It basically splits into two parts Laura ' s job . Along
with a desire to get a better handle on the perception that zoning
enforcement needs to be enhanced .
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that she would like to make a
cent . Councilwoman Raffensperger went on to say that she went
to the Personnel Committee meeting in order to ask them to
consider , with the two vacancies , a reorganization of the zoning
and building functions in the Town . She stated that she had made a
pitch for a Zoning Officer addition , in other words splitting the
two functions into two separate persons . The Personnel Committee
did not feel that this was something they could support . She went
on to say that at this point , having lost this particular
discussion , she would like to ask that whenever the persons are
interviewed for the Assistant Zoning Officer/Building Inspector job
that as march flexibility and expertise as possible be considered in
the interviewing and hiring of someone there so that perhaps this
reorganization might be considered in the future without having to
change personnel .
Supervisor Desch remarked that in the many discussions that have
taken place the Personnel Committee did include , under education
and work requirements , two years experience in zoning enforcement
or related field . He stated that he did not know what the market
would bring in terms of candidates that will have that kind of
experience . The Supervisor went on to note that the salary range
for this position was recommended to be between $ 18 , 000 to $ 25 , 000 .
He asked what did the Personnel Committee end up recommending for
the Department Secretary?
Personnel Chairman Henry Aron replied , $ 6 . 00 to $ 10 . 00 , the vote
was four to one ,
Councilwoman Leary stated that she would like to make an argument
for $ 7 . 00 to $ 10 . 00 .
Supervisor Desch asked if there was any further discussion on the
Assistant Zoning Officer/Building Inspector position , either
regarding the job description or the salary range ?
Town Attorney Barney remarked , suppose you don ' t have any
candidates with this two years experience or the more difficult
situation would be if you had one candidate who had the two years
experience but you wanted to hire someone else .
Supervisor Desch replied , that really should say " is desirable " .
That was the intention .
Building Inspector/ Zoning Officer Andrew Frost replied that he had
a feeling that if someone worked in any kind of enforcement whether
it be Ag and Markets laws or Social Services , with a background in
enforcement having regulations and getting people to comply with
regulations is an important aspect in the background of a
candidate .
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Town Attorney Barney replied that he didn ' t have any quarrel with
the qualifications , his only concern was that you could get someone
with two years experience at Ag and Markets who is a complete dud
and might want to choose someone else without the experience .
RESOLUTION NO . 182
Motion by Councilman Bartholf , seconded by Councilwoman Leary ,
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby approve
the salary range of $ 18 , 000 to $ 25 , 000 for the position of
Assistant Zoning Officer/Building Inspector , and
FURTHER BE IT RESOLVED , that the Town Board hereby approves the job
description of the position as amended .
(Desch , Bartholf , Leary , Klein and Whitcanb voting Aye . Nays -
Raffensperger)
DEPARTMEN901 SECRETARY
Supervisor Desch asked if anyone wished to make changes to the job
description?
He then remarked , salary range ?
Councilwoman Leary stated that going by the current range for
Department. Secretary that we have at $ 7 . 00 to $ 10 . 00 , and the
Personnel Committee has been talking about raising that quite a
bit . She stated that she knew this was just for 1989 but she felt
that it should be in line with the other Department Secretary job
and she also wanted to note that the current range for janitor is
$ 4 . 00 to $ 6 . 00 and she felt starting the Department Secretary at
$ 6 . 00 per hour is just too low . It ' s a whole different set of
skills . Ile should at least start it at $ 7 . 00 , make it $ 7 . 00 to
$ 10 . 00 now and then may be look at it when we change the other
Department: Secretary next year . We may not have to bring it up
to the same level but it certainly is a starter , $ 7 . 00 an hour as
the minim m .
Supervisor Desch replied he felt it was the feeling , and correct
him if he was wrong those who attended the Personnel Committee , the
feeling was that this basic level of position would from a
marketing standpoint be comparable to that salary range throughout
the camnu uty and probably would garner a considerable number of
candidates who would be willing and interested in caning at the
$ 6 . 00 level .
Henry Aron replied that the thought this was correct . He went on
to say that Councilwoman Leary would be at the interview and if you
have to start someone at $ 6 . 00 he felt you then should not hire
these people . You have a range fran $ 6 . 00 to $ 10 . 00 so the
opportunity to gauge by the applicants ability in order to give
that person not the $ 6 . 00 but the $ 7 . 00 or $ 8 . 00 probably . That is
the recamlendation by the committee who is going to interview that
person , but we have to start somewhere which is eligible for the
whole types of ranges as far as the bottom line is concerned . Now
as you said earlier , yes it can be reevaluated in another year ,
which will. be done anyway . He stated he did not see the difference
whether the bottan is $ 6 . 00 or $ 7 . 00 , that is his personal opinion .
Councilwanan Leary replied , this is the point , there is a big
difference and if you are saying that if the person is only
eligible -to get $ 6 . 00 an hour we shouldn ' t hire them then we
shouldn ' t set it at $ 6 . 00 an hour . The minimum is the minimum
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acceptable skill level for that job and for the skills we described
that ' s a high level of skill for $ 6 . 00 an hour . She stated that
she did not know why it was set at $ 1 . 00 an hour lower than our
standard Department Secretary description .
Henry Aron replied that he thought the requirements were lower than
the other person in the department .
Councilwoman Leary replied , in answer to that we are also for 1989 ,
talking about setting that Department Secretary at $9 . 00 to $ 13 . 00
so we can make an adjustment not quite that high but $ 6 . 00 an hour
for a Department Secretary is just plain too low . Your setting the
skill level at the same level as a custodian in the Town of Ithaca
and we are even thinking of setting that at $ 5 . 00 to $ 7 . 00 for
1990 . $ 6 „ 00 is way too low and she did not agree that you can find
someone in this job market , a good secretary with fast typing
skills for $ 6 . 00 an hour . The Ithaca Journal article that she read
a year ago said you can ' t get for for $ 9 . 00 and hour with fast
typing skills . It ' s an insult to the job skills to advertise it at
$ 6 . 00 an hour . This canes to $ 11 , 700 a year based on a 37 1 / 2 hour
week .
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked , if Henry Aron says the job
requires skills worth more than $ 6 . 00 an hour and it is kind of a
matter of principal that we not advertise for someone whom we
consider unacceptable , then she felt the Board should not advertise
the position at $ 6 . 00 an hour but should advertise more in line
with the other jobs at $ 7 . 00 .
Supervisor Desch remarked that he felt the real question was , are
there people who are out there and meet the min mxn of the job
description who would interview for the job or apply for the job
knowing that the salary range was $ 6 . 00 to $ 10 . 00 or would it
preclude somebody because they are making more than the $ 6 . 00 but
have the minimum qualifications , from. applying . He felt this was
the issue .
councilwoman Raffensperger staged that she did not want to
downgrade the job as she felt it was important .
Councilwon an Leary remarked , there are people desperate enough that
they will apply for any job at any rate , that was not the point .
Supervisor Desch replied , what you are saying is that there are
probably riot young secretarial persons out there making like $ 5 . 00
an hour who would consider this position an advancement .
Councilwnan Leary replied , not with two years experi
a ence . We are
asking for people with two years experience and she could not
imagine many secretaries with the kinds of skills the Town was
asking for and having worked two years getting $ 5 . 00 an hour in
this area . At Cornell a GR18 is $ 11 , 000 and secretaries are at
least $ 18 , 000 and they can go up to $ 20 , 000 to $ 22 , 000 so it ' s not
even competitive with Cornell .
Councilmar.i Bartholf remarked that this was a new job and if we are
going to raise our rates a little higher we are going to have all
the rest of the people requiring more increases .
Councilwoman Leary replied , the ranges we have been discussing in
the Personnel Committee about these hourly wages are higher than
$ 7 . 00 to $ 10 . 00 .
Councilman. Bartholf remarked , this is like a mushroom type thing
where you start somebody out at "X " number of dollars and the
person who has been working there for six years is only a short gap
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above that and they are going to say well they needed to be a
percentage higher .
Councilwcenan Leary replied , if you are talking about people who
have been in a job for a while that is a different story . There
are ranges and there are individual salaries and the ranges have to
be in some kind of conformity to each other , depending on what your
job description is .
Councilman Klein asked how many positions would this effect? How
many secretaries ?
Councilman Bartholf replied that he did not know but everyone who
is hourly paid person will be involved in this . He asked , do you
see what I am getting at , someone who is starting a new job and you
are putting their range up almost close to the people who are
working here now .
Councilwoman Leary replied , the range , it ' s a new job , it ' s the
same kind of job . The range is supposed to be reflecting the skill
level it ' s not reflecting how many years anyone particular person
has been In the job .
Councilman Bartholf replied that he understood what Councilwunan
Leary was talking about but still it was a new position .
Councilwoman Leary replied , so is the Assistant Building
Inspector% Zoning Officer ' s position and you didn ' t argue about it .
Councilman Klein asked if there were other Department Secretaries ?
Supervisor Desch replied , yes . More experience required and a
little bit: higher skills required dictated a higher range in these
cases .
Councilman Klein replied that he assumed those salary ranges are
not listed on the sheet .
Councilwoman Leary replied , if you are talking about the Department
Secretary for Planning , we just went over a new job description and
that is the one that we are talking about putting at $ 9 . 00 to
$ 13 . 00 an hour so that ' s still much higher than $ 7 . 00 to $ 10 . 00 .
Henry Aron asked if he could speak . He went on to say that in
1986 , the Department Secretary Mary Bryant started with $ 6 . 50 an
hour . In 1987 she received $ 7 . 00 an hour , in 1988 she received
$ 8 . 00 an hour and is now at $ 9 . 00 an hour . So what he was saying
to the Board was , pointing out for your information , that we did
start and inflation did not go up to that so Mary started with a
much higher responsibility and is much stronger .
Councilwoman Leary replied , it ' s more than $ 6 . 00 , inflation hasn ' t
been flat .
Mr . Aron replied no he was not saying that but inflation did not go
up in ccrgerison with . . . . . .
Supervisor Desch suggested a friendly amendment of $ 6 . 50 .
Councilwarnan Leary replied no because $ 7 . 00 an hour is what is
established for the Department Secretary now, when we are talking
about changing the Department Secretary for Planning , up to $ 9 . 00
an hour . $ 9 . 00 to $ 13 . 00 . That range is much too great even for
$ 7 . 00 to $ 10 . 00 she would expect the Board to consider changing
that upward later on . Because it is a lot of the same set of
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skills , both of them require a high school diploma , they both
require experience , it ' s not that different .
Councilman Whitcomb asked if the job descriptions were comparable
between this Department Secretary and the Planning Department
Secretary'?
Supervisor Desch replied , no . The experience requirements are
quite a bit different . He stated that he would agree with
Councilwoman Leary to a certain extent , are they that different?
That ' s the question .
Councilwoman Leary replied that she couldn ' t believe the Board was
arguing over a dollar minimum .
RESOLUTIO14 N0 . 183
Motion by Councilwoman Leary , seconded by Councilman Whitcomb ,
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby approve
the job description for the Department Secretary and set the salary
range at 1,; 7 . 00 to $ 10 . 00 per hours .
( Raffensperger , Leary , Klein and Whitcomb voting Aye . Nays - Desch
and Bartholf) .
ADVERTISDIG FOR ASSISTANT BUILDING INSPECTOR/ ZONING OFFICER AND
DEPARTMENT SECRETARY POSITIONS
RESOLUTION NO . 184
Motion by Councilwoman Raffensperger ; seconded by Councilman
Bartholf ,
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby approve
the advertising for the positions of Assistant Building
Inspector/ Zoning Officer and Department Secretary .
(Desch , Raffensperger , Bartholf , Leary , Klein and Whitcomb voting
Aye . Nay.c; - none) .
GEOGRAPHIC' INFORMATION SYSTEMS WORKSHOP
RESOLUTIOA' N0 . 185
Motion by CounciJWCMn Raffensperger ; seconded by Councilman
Bartholf ,
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorize Assistant Planner George Frantz to attend a Geographic
Information Systems Workshop in Boston , Massachusetts , August 5 -
6 , 1989 , at a cost not to exceed $ 600 . 00
(Desch , Raffensperger , Bartholf , Leary , Klein and Whitcomb voting
Aye . Nays - none) .
EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION NO . 186
Motion by Supervisor Desch ; seconded by Councilman Bartholf ,
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RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby moves
into Executive Session to discuss the Northeast Sewer limit
situation with the Village of Cayuga Heights .
(Desch , Raffensperger , Bartholf , Leary , Klein and Whitcomb voting
Aye . Nays - none) .
OPEN SESSION
RESOLUTION N0 . 187
Motion by Supervisor Desch , seconded by Councilman Whitcomb ,
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby moves
back into Open Session .
(Desch , Raffensperger , Bartholf , Leary , Klein and Whitcomb voting
Aye . Nays - none ) ,
The Board agreed to continue discussion of the Cayuga Heights sewer
moratorium matter at the Regular August Meeting .
SALARY IN(MEA.SE
RESOLUTION NO . 188
Motion by Councilwoman Raffensperger ; seconded by Supervisor Desch ,
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorize a salary increase for Building Inspector/ Zoning Officer
Andrew Frost and Town Planner Susan Beeners , effective August 1 ,
1989 .
(Desch , Raffensperger , Bartholf , Leary , Klein and Whitcomb voting
Aye . Nays - none ) .
ADJOUR ZE�IT
The meeting was duly adjourned .
Town Clerk