HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB Minutes 1987-09-14 TOWN OF ITHACA
REGULAR BOARD MEETING
September 14, 1987
At a Regular Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca,
Tompkins County, New York, held at the Town Offices at 126 East
Seneca Street, Ithaca, New York, at 5:30 P.M., on the 14th day of
September, 1987, there were:
• PRESENT: Noel Desch, Supervisor
Henry McPeak, Councilman
Shirley Raffensperger, Councilwoman
Marc Cramer, Councilman
Gloria Howell, Councilwoman
Robert Bartholf, Councilman
Patricia Leary, Councilwoman
ALSO PRESENT: Robert Flumerfelt, Town Engineer
John Barney, Town Attorney
Edward W. King, 1356 Slaterville Road
Deborah Dietrich, Board of Reps
Alfred DiGiacomo, 1025 Hanshaw Road
Gretchen Herrmann, 433 Bostwick Road
Herbert D. Brewer, Chamber of
Commerce `
Charles L. Becker, Chamber of
Commerce
Trudy Wythe, 2560 N. Triphammer Road
Beverly Livesay, Board of Reps
Joseph Ciaschi, 1121 Taughannock Blvd
William Downing, 215 N. Cayuga Street
Edward Austen, 255 DuBois Road
Robin Percey, Valley Manor
Timothy Ciaschi, S. Titus Avenue
Scot Raynor, 1139 Ellis Hollow Road
Andrew Sciarabba, Chamber of Commerce
Doria Higgins, 2 Hillcrest Drive
Representatives of the Media:
Debbie Munch, WHCU News
Fred Yahn, Ithaca Journal
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Supervisor led the assemblage in the Pledge of Allegiance.
EAST SHORE DRIVE SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT
• Andrew Sciarabba, Chairman of the Relocation Committee for the
Tompkins County Chamber of Commerce stated that he would like to
bring the Board up to date with a brief outline. He went on to say
that about a year and a half ago the committee began looking for a
site for the Chamber's offices since the downtown location is
insufficient and with their expanded roll in tourisum, we need to
have more accessibility for people visiting the community. So we
identified the corridor on Route 13 from about Green Street going
north as a target area and investigated many many properties. For
various reasons we were unable to acquire or find a suitable piece
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of property for us. We were approached by the City originally
because of the consideration of making the information booth now by
the park a more permanent site and that's what started our
investigation of this particular site. After the public outcry
arose as to having the use of park property we gave up on this
idea. It then occurred to us that we could still be down in the
area we wanted to be in and be located possibly in the Town of
Ithaca and still be in the approximate area we wanted to be in. We
approached the owners of that property, the Bowman's, and they
indicated to us a willingness to consider selling their property to
us, which we would then use for the Chamber site.
Mr. Sciarabba went on to say that the Bowman site is not a very
large site, very narrow, and in order to have enough safe access
for the property, as well as parking, we did appear before the City
to request a driveway and parking area over park .land, accessing
the Bowman property. Parking available to the Chamber, visitors
and the Youth Bureau, either exiting or entering from East Shore
Drive in a circle and utilizing space with setbacks of the building
on the site. That was our initial discussion with the Town and the
Town seemed to be well receptive to the idea and it came back that
the R-15 classification which the property is located in does not
provide for offices or businesses, 'similar to what the Chamber
would be. He went on to say that the Chamber was not a business,
we are not for profit, but we certainly are not residential or a
public building, eventhough we have a lot of public use of our
building. The R-15 classification does not classify us properly.
It was suggested that we consider a Mixed Use District, we thought
that was a good idea. What we are applying for is the creation of
a mixed residential, office, Chamber of Commerce district which
would incorporate approximately two to two and one-half acres of
land. The properties involved would be the Bowman property, which
is the first property in the Town of Ithaca, the two properties to
the north which are owned by Mr. Wells, Parcel Nos. 8 and 9, and
the Signorelli property, 7.3 as well as some of the property under
13, Conrail property. This would exceed the two acres which is
kind of a bench mark for creating such a district. He went on to
say that the area itself, even though it is zoned R-15, has major
buffers around it. We think that the area itself is not an
abundent residential area. Many of the properties there are in
very bad shape, many of them are being used basically as rental
properties eventhough they are residential and in a very short
distance you get into commercial, industrial zone, marina's,
construction company, the sewage treatment plant is here as well as
the Youth Bureau. The area itself does not lend itself to
residential. This would not be an undue hardship. The Mixed Use
District, he stated as he understood it, means you could have both
residential and the other categories.
Mr. Sciarabba went on to say that the second diagram shows the
layout or what the potential would be for the Mixed Use District.
A and B being a small office building with parking with exit and
entrance off Route 34. He went on to say that it is important for
the Board to understand what the Chamber was trying to acccoplish
here. We are not trying to become a big business, our revenues
come from our members and their fees they pay for membership in the
• Chamber. The Chambers goal are to promote the ecomony of the
community. Tourism is probably one of the cleanest industries that
are going, there is no polution from that, there is no long term
housing requirements for tourism, people come, they visit the
community, they leave. That is why many cities are going into
tourism as a way of opening the economic climate. We have looked
at a number of properties, since we are a not-for-profit
organization we don't have a big reserve in the bank. We have to
be in an area that is accessable. This area is the cross road of
the cmmmity, all of the roads come into that area and because of
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that commercial property values are very, very high. It's not an
area that is easy for us to find property within our means.
Supervisor Desch replied that the first step, if the Board chooses,
is to refer the matter to the Planning Board and the Planning Board
will decide what the criteria for a district would be. Presumably
it would be relatively narrow, it would categorize the type of
activity you are talking about and whatever else the Board would
feel it could recommend back to this Board, which it would then by
local law, if it so chose, create the special district. The
Planning Board would, in any event, retain authority over the site
plan approval once that came along.
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that she did not understand how
we have gotten from the one to a much larger area. Are we saying
this is because the Town does not have any other alternatives for
permitting that without rezoning a larger area?
Supervisor Desch replied that there have been a number of
discussions about that issue as to what the future use of the land
throughout that area will be, twenty years down the road, along the
lake. The feeling being that as time goes on, this type of
activity would seem, from a land use standpoint, be appropriate.
Certainly the residential type use is not doing particularly well
and the pressure because of property values in that area are going
to continue to suggest that business type of activity.
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked if these were Planning Board
discussions?
Town Planner Beeners replied that the Planning Board reviewed,
earlier, back in June, they have not reviewed the possibility of
rezoning, as proposed tonight.
Supervisor Desch responded, one of the things you get into
obviously when you try to do this sort of thing on a small site is
a tight ingress and egress and these are the types of things that
we throw back at the Chamber and say, look you have some hazzardous
conditions, you have site distance and so on, so perhaps you should
be looking at a bigger area so that is what they have come back
with.
Doria Higgins, stated that she was speaking for Citizens to save
Stewart Park, we are a group who has been struggling for a year to
get the City of Ithaca to establish guidelines for the preservation
and restoration of Stewart Park, we think it needs restoration
quite desperately. We have also been struggling against having the
Park replanted. She stated that she would like to say that they
are definately for the Chamber of Commerce and we think the tourist
bureau has been doing a superb job, infact a member of our group,
has been working there during the summer as a volunteer. We are
though very opposed, we were opposed to the City of Ithaca giving
park land which really belongs to the public, giving of it to a
private organization and we are even more appalled to learn that
park land is going to be used to became an asphalt parking lot. A
lot of people say it is just an unimportant end of the park, it
• doesn't matter, it sort of has been destroyed by the Youth Bureau
anyway, but the thing is that this kind of encroachment on park
land on a green space is going on all over the world. It's going
on in this City, we are in the process of loosing the Inlet Valley
Park to what we don't know but the term is alienated, the green
space in Collegetown and now we are loosing Stewart Park. one of
the things we think is that the lot is clearly too small for the
purposes of the Chamber of Commerce. If they had a large lot that
was large enough for their purposes, I think we might agree with
the idea of getting around zoning laws, but when this lot is
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clearly, it is too small even for it's present zoning category
which is R-15, only 60 feet across and I think for R-15 it's
supposed to be 100 feet across, or something like that. State
zoning laws, as you may know, are very clear in forbidding what is
called spot zoning. This is spot zoning which clearly favors for a
profit only one person and she stated that she felt the history of
the Chamber requesting zoning variances down there clearly
documents the facts that the person who is going to, or the entity
who is going to profit, from this rezoning is the Chamber of
Commerce and I think it's clearly a legal point that could be
argued and one that could possibly be won if it came to a court
decision. There are other legal problems involved here, the
decision of the City of Ithaca to let the Chamber have the park
-land is also legally questionable. It is illegal in the State of
• New York for park land to be leased, it is legal for park land to
be licensed. And what distinguishes licenses is that it is
renewable each year. Now the first few versions of the resolution
which gave the Chamber permission to do this used the term lease,
the Chamber-of Commerce's own map used the term lease, so I think
it can be argued, very successfully, that the intent was to lease.
They are using the term licensing now to get around the law and we
have documents from the City of New York Park Commission and from
the State Department of Parks and Recreation showing many court
decisions where they use the word licensing, the court said was not
legal if the fact itself is not licensing, so there is question
here about what is being done. She went on to say that she just
wanted the Board to know that it was not a hard and fast easy
thing.
Mrs. Higgins went on to say that another question about what the
City has done is that their resolution said granted the land
designated in what they called Modified Proposal A. But there are
two different plans with that same label, Modified Proposal A. One
of them, you may remember, had the Chamber's own parking lot
overlapping the the other not overlapping and this is also called
Modified Proposal A. On legal advice we wrote to the Mayor several
months ago asking for clarification of this and we have not heard
from him since. But that resolution, in other words, is cloudy and
ambigious and needs to be clarified itself. There are laws to
protect the public against what is being done and eventhough there
is an attempt to get around them we should remember that one of the
great beauties of this community is Stewart Park. The reason we
got so many signatures to our petition, 7,000, without any effort
was because this community loves Stewart Park. There is something
wrong, in this day and age, to be giving park land to a private
organization to make an asphalt parking lot. She stated that she
did not think there was any way to argue that this is right. She
stated that she felt what the Chamber of Commerce is doing for our
Town is marvelous and we support them wholeheartily but we do not
support using park land for a private organization. She noted that
some people also argue that this will enhance the area, she stated
that she could see from Route 34 that this might be more enhancing
but from Stewart Park when you look up here now you see trees,
vines and greenery and you are protected from Route 34 and you
don't see the houses. The Chamber of Commerce intends to go to the
very boundary of that land and build another building by George
Haskins who did the Youth Bureau. Now the Youth Bureau is a
handsome building, however, it towers overwhelmingly over the park.
It really encroaches upon the ambience of the park. It's much
taller than it has to be, it's a half story above ground level,
there may be a technical reason for that, but there is no technical
reason for the pitch of the roof which takes it up almost another
half story so that you have a building here that is a story and a
half taller than it has to be for the functions inside it. This
enormous looking building has the same footprint, the footprint of
this building is no larger than the little unobtrusive Tin Can,
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believe it or not. We would like to urge you to help the Chamber
of Commerce find a good spot. Let's try finding them a spot that
is large enough for their purposes, that is located for their
purposes, but that will not impinge on one of the most beautiful of
local parks to achieve their aims.
LANDFILLS
Gretchen Herrmann, 433 Bostwick Road stated that she wished to
address the landfill site known as ELF 3. Let's not forget that
this is right on the border of Town of Enfield and the Town of
Ithaca. This is something that seems to have been forgotten
because it has the EN prefix. The net impact will be as much, if
not more, on the Town of Ithaca as the Town of Enfield because of
its location on top of a very steep hill. She went on to say that
you probably are aware that this is the most populated site of the
original 23 as far as we could make out. Dr. Crance who lives in
the area delivered to the Board of Representatives on August 11, a
map that he had made along with pictures of the 109 residents
within three tenths of a mile of the perimeter of the area. We
have a little difficulty in being perfectly precise because they
have changed the boarders of the site and we do not know precisely
where they are. This is very close to the City of Ithaca, as you
know, Sheffield Road is two and a quarter miles to the City of
Ithaca boundaries. It would be visible from higher up elevations
and from north even, according to the engineers reports. Depending
upon wind currents and what really happens with the odors, nobody
really knows, there could be some impact on the Town of Ithaca and
quite likely in the City of Ithaca. There is an enormous
Population bulge in the Drew Park area, there are some 52 houses
that again are all within a half mile, eastward, that is all down
hill, of the proposed site area. Noise pollution could be great
given that its on a hill and the noise would echo terribly, that is
something that is hard to measure but that is something that a very
real possibility. Perhaps the most distressing thing is the
characteristics of the ground, the engineers initial reports says
there is an artisian condition with water surging upwards, there is
only 25 to 35 feet of soil to bedrock, unless everything is done
masterfully and there are no loop holes at all, and we never know
anything in this world that is like that, no mistakes, there seems
to be a real possibility of pollution. If pollution does occur the
drainage goes eastward down Poole Road and into Coy Glen. Also,
down along the slope toward the South to the base of Route 327
around Treman Park. What happens there, is that the stream goes
along then disappears into the ground and this goes into the
aquifer that feeds all of the wells in the area of Turback's
including the new Waldorf School in that area as does the Coy Glen
aquifer which is a part of that same mass. She stated that she
thought Susan Beeners had the maps for that area.
Mrs. Herrmann went on to say that if it does pollute and there is
always that question, with a landfill, the results could really be
quite devastating. So what we are asking, since the impact is so
great, on the Town of Ithaca that all of the representatives for
the Town of Ithaca on the Tompkins County Board of Representatives
be asked to support the residents of the Town of Ithaca and vote
against having the landfill site and EN 3.
Supervisor Desch asked if the Board members had any questions on
the draft resolution? The plan would be, if adopted, to send a
certified copy of the resolution to the Board of Representatives.
Town Planner Beeners stated that she felt there was well over 109
houses in a half mile radius.
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Mrs. Herrmann replied that it was in the block parameter, again
without knowing the actual parameters of this site which has been
changed and we do not know, this is the one mile square block
between Sheffield Road, Bostwick Road, Enfield Center Road and Van
Dorns Road. That's the three tenths of a mile with the population.
Deborah Dietrich, County Board of Representatives, urged the Board
to support the resolution. She stated that she had been holding
meetings with the residents of Enfield and the Town of Ithaca since
March. In March no one thought it was very serious. Now that it
is one of the final three, she stated that she felt it was very
important that the Town makes it's position clear, on behalf of the
Town residents.
Beverly Livesay, County Board of Representatives stated that she
would just like to comment that she thought that the Board had
received an excellent presentation and that to the best of her
knowledge, a very factual one. The only thing she stated that she
would comment on in the wording of the resolution, and you do with
it as you will. Mrs. Livesay stated that she was on the Solid
Waste Management Committee and that Deborah Dietrich was not,
although she has sat in on many meetings, the way the County Board
has directed the Solid Waste Management Committee to proceed is to
not make recommendations and so on, so say that these are the three
finalists is certainly an interpretation that everybody is putting
on it, but it is not from the charge, there are actually 24 - 28
sites some which have been tested further than other and so on and
so forth. So the wording that you urge the Board to exclude ENV 3
from further consideration, is very understandable both from the
stand point of the residents who would like to get it over with,
there certainly is a lot of sympathy on the part of individual
committee members to give this kind of relief not only to EST 3
residents but to people who live in any of the other sites but
there aren't any who are really off the hook, at this point. So if
you want to send it with this wording that is fine, people are
using terminology like this, if you want to use a little bit
different terminology saying that it certainly should not be
selected as the site, or whatever.
Supervisor Desch replied that we want to make it pretty clear that
we don't believe that they should give it anymore thought.
Mrs. Livesay replied that what she was saying was that that is not
going to happen because of the way they are all considered, they
will all be reported out with all of the facts, with the
environmental assessments and so on, and then a selection will be
made. Its just not going to happen that no further consideration
will be given, to say all of these reasons, say why it should not
be chosen might be more to the point. She stated that eventhough
she was in sympathy with why you want to do this, she stated that
she was not telling you what to do, she thought there had been a
great deal of misunderstanding when, she stated that she heard
thing like final three sites and this sort of thing. She went on
to say that she just wanted to clarify this and then the Town
should do whatever they wish.
Supervisor Desch asked if there were any comments from the Board?
Councilwoman Howell replied that she felt the Board should go with
the resolution, as presented.
Councilman Cramer agreed with Councilwoman Howell.
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked that whether its in the last
three or the last five or the last twenty-two or whatever, we still
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feel as strongly that it is not an appropriate site, whatever its
present state of consideration.
Mrs. Livesay replied that that was what she was saying, it might be
stronger to say its not an appropriate site, do not choose this
site, or whatever. She stated that she felt the Board should make
as strong a statement as they feel they want to make.
Councilman Cramer replied that he felt the Board had made that
statement, he stated that he felt the Board had gone on record on
numerous occasions, individuals of us have. He stated that he felt
there was very serious environmental issue here, he stated that he
felt that environmental issue has to be addressed by this Town
Board and subsequently by the County. He stated that he felt the
site should be excluded from the list for environmental reasons and
he stated that he felt the Board should take as strong a stand as
the Board can possibly take with the County Board for even
considering this particular site. Councilman Cramer stated that he
was willing to accept the wording already in the proposed
resolution.
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated to the Town Planner, that not
everyone is aware of the fact that the critical environmental area
was designated by Town of Ithaca. This should be in there.
RESOLUTION NO. 177
Motion by Councilman Cramer; seconded by Counciwoman Howell,
WHEREAS, the Tompkins County Board of Representatives Solid Waste
Management Committee has given further consideration to potential
Landfill Site EN-3 through the completion of field tests, and
WHEREAS, the test results are now available and these results
futher substantiate and supplement the previously stated basis for
rejecting further consideration of this site,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca urges the Tompkins County Board of Representatives to
exclude potential Landfill Site EN-3 from further consideration for
the following reasons:
Preliminary test results indicate that Site EN-3 has
relatively shallow bedrock, an artesian condition,
accessibility problems, and other constraints that may make
this site less feasible for landfill development than other
sites tested, and that may lead to significant adverse impacts
to the environment with respect to surface and groundwater
contamination, traffic safety, and visual, noise, and odor
impact.
There may be a significant adverse impact on approximately 52
homes in the Drew Park Subdivision area of the Town of Ithaca
with respect to water supply, traffic, and visual, noise and
odor pollution, as well as to a total of more than 100 homes
within a one-half mile radius of the site.
• The site is one mile from the Coy Glen Critical Environmental
Area designated by the Town of Ithaca in 1979 and which has
also been designated a Tompkins County Unique Natural area.
There may be a significant adverse impact on the water quality
of a large aquifer which is within 1/3 mile of the site, and
which is the source of water for many residences and several
businesses in the Inlet Valley/Elmira Road neighborhood of the
Town.
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The cost to the County to provide public utilities to the
developed residential areas adjoining the site in the Town of
Ithaca and the Town of Enfield is an unacceptable burden to
County taxpayers.
The development costs for use of Site EN-3 as a landfill are
excessive in terms of the limited tonnage that can be placed
there due to topography, soil conditions, on-site gas lines,
and the hazardous nature of roads which would be used to haul
routes.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
REPORT OF TOWN OFFICIALS
Town Supervisor's Report
OSHA Inspection
Supervisor Desch noted that the Town had been inspected by OSHA and
a number of deficiencies in Town Hall have to be corrected by
October 21, 1987. He stated that he was appointing the Town Clerk
to see to it that these items are corrected. A copy of the report
is available for anyone interested in it. All the items are minor.
Highway Superintendent
The Supervisor stated that in the absence of Robert Parkin, he had
appointed Bert Dean as Acting Superintendent, inorder to provide
proper direction to the efforts that need to be completed this
year. We expect Bob back in two weeks. He went on to say that he
would appreciate Board ratification of this appointment.
RESOLUTION NO. 178
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilman Cramer,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby ratify
the appointment of Bert Dean as Acting Highway Superintendent
effective September 10, 1987 during the absence of Highway
Superintendent Robert Parkin.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
Youth Services
Supervisor Desch stated that on Tuesday, September 22, 1987 we will
be having the first meeting on the Youth Services matter with City
officials. He went on to say that he would like to alert the Board
and the public that it may be too costly for the .Town to continue a
joint relationship with the City in this area. The requested
increase from $75,000 per year to $350,000/year would cause a tax
increase of $1.00/1,000 in the tax rate, a 77% increase. Clearly
other alternatives will be evaluated but these cannot be created
overnight.
City Centennial
Supervisor Desch went on to say that the Town has been asked to
budget $5,000 in 1988 for the City of Ithaca Centennial. A
conversation with the auditors at Audit and Control indicate that
such an appropriation would be illegal since there is not direct
benefit to the Town taxpayers. The 1988 budget will, therefore,
not include this item. Perhaps some inkind services would be
appropriate.
Presentation of the Tentative Budget
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Supervisor Desch noted same conflicting dates for this meeting. He
proposed that it be held on October 5 and that we also have our
regular October meeting at that time since October 12th, our normal
date is a holiday. We would have the meeting at 5:30 P.M., and
present the budget at 7:30 P.M. He asked if anyone opposed this?
Codes & Ordinances
The Supervisor stated that the Codes & Ordinance Commitee had met
on September 3rd and appointed Henry Aron as its Chairman. We have
• lengthy list of items that has evolved from our June workshop and
• number of items that staff and Board members have brought to the
attention of the Town Planner. The Committee, he stated as he
understood it, will be submitting a package of materials consisting
• of administrative clarification that need not be held up pending
decisions on broader issues that will take more time. Their next
meeting is October 8.
Roat Street Drainage/Paving
Supervisor Desch noted that the plan for drainage is nearly
complete and will be presented to the neighborhood at a meeing on
Monday evening, September 21st at Town Hall. The Town Engineer
will have more later in this meeting.
East Ithaca Traffic Study
The Supervisor noted that the combined City/County/Town/Cornell
effort is underway. The Committee is reviewing the methodology and
format of surveys and the timetable for them.
Warren Road Drainage
Supervisor Desch remarked that the Town is now working with the
County to resolve conflicts between water mains, their new storm
sewers, pedestrian paths, etc. It may give us the opportunity to
replace 3-4 of the 50 year old water services under the road. We
have indicated to the County any water main relocations will be
their cost.
Fire Station Schematics
The Supervisor continued, noting that the Joint Fire Station
Committee will be meeting on September 16 at Town Hall to review
the schematic plans being prepared.
Federal Revenue Sharing Money
Supervisor Desch noted that the Board would need to set the date
for a public hearing, since we are meeting on the 5th, to consider
the remainder of the Federal Revenue Sharing money, primarily the
interest earned this year and a very small payment that we received
earlier this year. The total amount is about $10,000.
RESOLUTION NO. 179
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilman McPeak,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca will meet and
conduct a public hearing at 7:00 P.M., on October 5, 1987 to
consider the appropriation of remaining Federal Revenue Sharing
money.
• (Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
Supervisor Desch remarked that this does not include the final
payment which is being held up in Congress.
Town Engineer's Report
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Town Engineer Robert Flumerfelt stated that he had distributed,
before the meeting, his monthly report and several items that will
cane up later in the evening.
Water & Sewer Main Bids
He went on to say that the Town had taken bids on September 2nd for
Phase I of the construction of water and sewer main improvements
and received what he felt were very good bids, expecially one
excellent low bid and we hope the contractor will soon be underway.
The Engineer went on to say that the design and contract documents
for Phase II have been started and hope to be able to take bids in
late November.
Hospital Access Road
Bids have been received for the Hospital Access Road, they were
opened this morning, and again he stated that he felt good bids had
been received. Approximately $20,000 lower than the first bidding
because of a realignment of the roadway and a change in the subbase
material that we proposed to be used. We still have to review the
bids that were received and make a recommendation and an award for
that.
Safety Improvements for the Honness Lane/Pine Tree Road
Intersection
The Town Engineer noted that the Board had information in their
folders for some recommendations for safety improvements for the
Honness Lane/Pine Tree Road Intersection. There is presently quite
a bad visibility problem as you approach the intersection from
Honness Lane and make the stop, the visibility to the left isn't
too bad but to the right there is obstruction by a tree, pole and
the ends of two hedges.
Drainage Improvements for Blackstone/Orchard Streets Area
The Town Engineer stated that as with the Kay Street area, we can
accomplish our objectives for improving the drainage with a minimum
amount of work there with improving the culverts, principally under
the intersection of Orchard and Roat Streets, with some other minor
ditching and culvert replacement and repaving. At the meeting
planned with the residents of that area we hope that any other
problems will be brought to light so that we can account for those
and accomplish the job with minimum disruption to the area.
Highway Garage Heating -
Town Engineer Flumerfelt stated that the heating contract for the
highway garage is almost finished, the contract just needs to
install thermostats, make some electrical connections and test the
system.
Bids for new Salt/Sand/Cinder Spreader
The Engineer noted that this week the advertisement for the new
salt/sand/cinder spreader was placed in the newspaper. Bids will
be opened on September 29th.
Building Inspector/Zoning Officer Report
Building Inspector/Zoning Officer Andrew Frost reported the Town
Board had already received his report for the month, a couple of
weeks ago.
Town Planner's Report
Town Planner Susan Beeners reported that there was no written
report from her, at this time. She went on to say that the
Supervisor had reported on most of the items she had been involved
with. Ms. Beeners reported that she had attended the meetings of
the East Ithaca Transportation Study Committee and that the Town
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Attorney and herself would be meeting to prepare packages of
revisions for the Codes and Ordinance Committee meetings. The only
Planning Board meeting that was held since the last Town Board
meeting was one in which the Briarwood Subdivision, 26 lots, off
Birchwood Drive and Birchwood Drive North, was given final
subdivision approval. The Ciaschi, West Wood Hills proposal, was
given preliminary approval for 21 single family cluster homes.
There was a sketch plan for a 10 lot subdivision on Coddington Road
that was reviewed but it does not appear that the applicant will be
coming back any time real soon. There was a sketch plan review for
a proposed neighborhood shopping area on the corner of Troy and
King Road. That one will be returning in another couple of weeks
with some other commercial proposals for different parts of South
• Hill, which are being looked at very carefully by the Planning
Board in context of the Comprehensive Plan for that type of a
facility.
REPORT OF COUNTY BOARD OF REPRESENTATIVES
County Representative Deborah Dietrich thanked the Town Board for
their action tonight on the Landfill Resolution. She went on to
say that she was interested in the contracts on the Hospital Access
Road because she stated that she had talked to NYS DOT in Syracuse
today, that traffic light situation is somewhat contingent on that
road getting underway. What DOT is saying is that the traffic
light may not be installed until spring. The quicker they can see
something happening with the access road, the quicker we can get
them moving.
County Representative Beverly Livesay stated that she just wanted
to mention to the Board that they might want to have the Town
Attorney review the Zoning Ordinance in light of the out of Town
landfill companies that apparently are descending heavily on our
State. She stated that she did not think one should assume
anything and should review any documents you have to see how best
you can tighten it up. There were a few "white" areas in the Town
of Ithaca.
Mrs. Livesay went on to say that she would like to comment on the
report of Youth Services and the increase in cost. She stated that
she felt the Town of Ithaca might look at what kind of change, in
relationship, the Town could have with the City. In other words,
should the Town have their own Youth Committee advising the Town on
what to do, should there be an effort to make this a joint
City/Couty Youth Bureau rather than having just a reacting
situation. She stated that she was sure that the County Youth
Bureau Director would be glad to assist.
Supervisor Desch replied that he was sure these were going to be
very interesting negotiations. Some what similar to the Fire
Contract but in some way more difficult. He reminded those present
that the City, by one vote, voted down the plan for a joint
City/Town and YMCA facility.
BUDGET AMENDMENTS
• RESOLUTION NO. 180
Motion by Councilman Cramer; seconded by Councilwoman Howell,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorize the following budget amendments and transfers:
GENERAL FUND TOWNWIDE
Town Board 12 September 14, 1987
Transfer to Town Board Contractual A1010.400 $102.50; transfer from
Town Board Equipment A1010.100 $100.00 and Supervisor Equipment
A1220.200 $2.50
Transfer to Supervisor Contractual A1220.400 $75.66; transfer from
Supervisor Equipment A1220.200 $75.66
Transfer to Unallocated Insurance A1910.400 $5,063.53; transfer
from Appropriated Fund Balance $5,063.53
Transfer to Crossing Guard Contractual A3120.400 $20.00; transfer
from Crossing Guard Equipment A3120.200 $20.00
• GENERAL FUND OUTSIDE VILLAGE
Transfer to Traffic Safety B3310.400 $963.22; transfer from
B1990.400 Contingency $963.22
Transfer to Zoning Equipment B8010.200 $187.94; transfer from
Appropriated Fund Balance $187.94
Transfer to Planning Contractual B8020.400 $1,500.00; transfer from
B1990.400 Contingency $1,500.00
Transfer to Health Insurance B9060.800 $5,000.00; transfer from
Contingency B1990.400 $5,000.00
Transfer to Zoning Contractual B8010.400 $700.00; transfer from
Appropriated Fund Balance $700.00
Transfer to Disability Insurance B9055.800 $175.00; transfer from
Appropriated Fund Balance $175.00
HIGHWAY FUND
Transfer to Unemployment Insurance DB9050.800 $2,640.00; transfer
from Appropriated Fund Balance $2,640.00
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
WAIVE PENALTY ON WATER BILL
RESOLUTION NO. 181
Motion by Councilwoman Raffensperger; seconded by Councilman
Cramer,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorize a refund in the amount of $3.11 for penalty be .made to F.
B. Agard, 1023 Hanshaw Road, Ithaca, New York, Account Number
186-0202343.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
•
PART TIME PLANNING ASSISTANT
RESOLUTION NO. 182
Motion by Councilwoman Raffenperger; seconded by Councilman Cramer,
WHEREAS, there is a need for technical assistance and completion of
special projects in the Planning Department, and
Town Board 13 September 14, 1987
WHEREAS, Paul Look has worked in this capacity for the Town of
Ithaca during the summer months,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca hereby authorize the employment of Paul Look as part-time
Planning Assistant from September 15, 1987 to December 31, 1987, at
$6.00/hour, to a maximum of 15 hours/week. Appropriation account
to be charged B8020.100 Planning Personal Services,
AND FURTHER BE IT RESOLVED, that a budget amendment is hereby
approved to transfer funds from General Fund Outside Village
Appropriated Fund Balance to B8020.100 Planning Personal Services
in the amount of $1,500.
• (Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
PART TIME ENGINEERING ASSISTANT
RESOLUTION NO. 183
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Councilmen Howell,
WHEREAS, there is a need in the Engineering Department for
additional technical assistance, and
WHEREAS, Brian Miller who has worked for the Town of Ithaca through
the Cornell Work Study Program is available for the Fall Semester
through work study,
NOW 'THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca hereby authorize the employment of Brian Miller as part-time
engineering aide from September 15, 1987 through December 31, 1987,
at a rate of $6.00/hour up to maximum of 15 hours/week.
Appropriation account to be charged General Fund Engineering
Personal Services A1440.100.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
SET DATE FOR PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND THE TOWN OF ITHACA TRAFFIC
LAWS
RESOLUTION NO. 184
Motion by Councilwoman Howell; seconded by Councilman Cramer,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca will meet and
conduct a public hearing at 7:15 P.M., on October 5, 1987, to amend
the Town of Ithaca Traffic Laws by adding stop signs at two
intersections in Forest Home and the relocation of yield signs at
Pennsylvania/Kendall Avenue intersection.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW REZONING TAX PARCELS N0.
6-23-1-11.112 AND 6-23--1-11.113 LOCATED OFF WOOLF LANE AND GROVE
ROAD FROM RESIDENCE DISTRICT R-30 TO RESIDENCE DISTRICT R-15
Proof of posting and publication of a notice of a public hearing to
consider a local law rezoning Tax Parcels No. 6-23-1-11.112 and
6-23-1-11.113 located off Woolf Lane and Grove Road from Residence
Town Board 14 September 14, 1987
District R-30 to Residence District R-15 having been presented by
the Town Clerk, the Supervisor opened the public hearing.
Supervisor Desch suggested that the Board review the Environmental
Assessment first and then asked the Town Planner what the total
acreas was?
Town Planner Susan Beeners replied, 23.05.
Supervisor Desch asked if this was the total of both parcels?
Ms. Beeners replied, yes.
• Supervisor Desch noted that the Environmental Assessment Form Part
2A, provides a narrative on the impact on land, water, plants,
animals, open space, transportation, noise and odor, impact on
growth and character of the neighborhood. For the benefit of those
persons present the Supervisor read the following: impact on
growth and character of community or neighborhood - "The proposed
action will cause a change in the density of land use from
undeveloped land to secondary growth vegetation to developed land,
in an area where residences are a permitted land use, and where the
development of public water and sewer services has been petitioned
for by local residents and has been planned for by the Town. The
proposed rezoning from R-30 to R-15 would result in a density
increase which is considered supporable in this area of West Hill
with its access onto State and County roads and its proximity to
public facilities and professional offices, provided that
vegetation conservation and landscaping as proposed are
accomplished, and provided that adequate open space is retained in
potential project phases, as may be required by the Planning Board.
The proposed 21 single-family detached units as proposed, with a
donation to the Town of 1.8+1- acres of open space, would represent
a density of approximately 2.2 units per acre, which is within the
requirements of the proposed R-15 rezoning and the maximum 3.5
permitted units of cluster subdivision. The following summarizes
existing and potential permitted residential densities:
R-30 current permitted density without public water and sewer:
0.8 dwelling units/acre (single-family dwellings)
1.6 dwelling units/acre (two-family dwellings)
R-30 potential permitted density with public water and sewer:
1.15 dwelling units/acre (single-family dwellings)
2.3 dwelling units/acre (two-family dwellings)
R-15 potential permitted density:
2.2 dwelling units/acre (single-family dwellings)
4.4 dwelling units/acre (two-family dwellings)
3.5 dwelling units/acre (maximum density for clustered
subdivision)
Proposed Westwood Hills Clustered Subdivision - Phase I (21
dwelling units with 1.8 acres open space donated on a total of
• 1.2+/- acres) : 2.5 to 2.2 dwelling units/acre. The latter figure
was based on 9.43 acres for Phase I, with 500+/- feet of road
connection to Dubois Road deducted."
The Supervisor noted that the Planning Board had proposed a
negative determination of environmental significance.
Edward Austen, 255 DuBois Road stated that looking over the area of
Trumansburg Road, Woolf Lane and DuBois Road, most of those
building lots and homes there are sitting on much more than 1,500
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square foot lots, in fact most of them are well over 30,000 square
foot. He stated that he thought that subdivision to- 1,500 square
foot lots is a much higher density than the surrounding area and he
stated that he would like to see it remain 30,000 square foot.
Supervisor Desch noted that he had received today, a copy of a
letter dated September 11th, sent to the Planning Board from Mr. &
Mrs. Dengler.
"Please be advised that we are stongly against the approval of a
proposed 21 unit single family detached clustered subdivision
proposed to be located on a portion of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel
Numbers 6-23-1-11.112 and 6-23-1-11.113. Such a development is not
in keeping with the nature of the neighborhood and is not
• appropriate with the surrounding area. It can possibly cause both
drainage problems and traffic problems for the residents of Woolf
Lane and Dubois Road. The original plan with larger lots for the
development would be far more suitable."
Scott Reynor, Consultant for the Westwood Hills Project, stated
that he would like to say a few things, firstly responding to the
letter. He went on to say that they had done some drainage
calculations and the engineers have looked at the amount of traffic
to be generated by this project and the systems that are there
currently are capable of handling an increase that the project
would present. He went on to say that the other is that what we
are striving to do, in general, with this project is to get away
from being pigeon-holed into trying to have attached housing that
would be totally out of the character of the neighborhood. By
allowing detached housing in that area, which would be permissible
under the zoning, we feel this would be a gross misuse of the land
and we are trying to compensate for the fact that we are trying to
get detached housing by putting the houses on smaller than usual
lots, however, we are going in as a cluster subdivision and not
your typical R-15 subdivision. We feel this is the only
alternative we have to attached housing is to build detached which
is really in keeping with the neighborhood.
Supervisor Desch asked if the density for Phase II was likely to be
comparable to Phase I?
Timothy Ciaschi replied that Phase II to the South, 11 or 12 units,
and the way he stated that he had set it up, he donated that land
and said that everytime he had another phase that he was going
through he would add 10% more open space, so already that cut it
down to 8 or .9 units. He noted that he was not going to get his
proposed 55 units.
Supervisor Desch replied, it fair to say that the density for the
overall project, when it's done, will be lower than the density of
Phase I.
Mr. Ciaschi replied, that is correct.
Mr. Reynor added, as part of Phase I, there is 21% of the entire
parcel of land that has been set aside for open space, for future
use by the Town for playground or recreational area. That's double
what the usual requirement is.
Supervisor Desch responded that it was pretty much likely that most
of the traffic from this subdivision will go down Dubois Road and
then out to Route 96.
Mr. Reynor replied, at this point yes. The development will start
from the East and work its way West.
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Victor Lazar, 108 Woolf Lane stated that Mr. Austen had already
pointed out that most of the area has lots larger than 15,000
square feet, they are closer to almost an acre and then some. Some
of the lots are an acre and a half and almost two acres. Mr.
Ciaschi points out that he is very willing to increase the open
space in Phases II and III. He stated that he would urge Mr.
Ciaschi to consider starting with Phase I to keep that open space
and to be more nearly the land area per unit housing that is there
now.
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked how many units per acre was
proposed in the project?
Town Planner Susan Beeners replied, that what has been arrived at
• for Phase I, which is the 21 lots, is a density of about two units
per acre.
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked if this was on the 10.2 acres?
Ms. Beeners replied, correct. She felt that the density on the
remaining acreage would be close to 2.2 units per acre.
As no one else present wished to speak for or against the proposal,
the Supervisor closed the public hearing.
Mr. Lazar then stated that there was one more factor to be
considered. At the last meeting, which he attended, there was the
matter of the cost of the sewer and water system going in, at that
time there was no agreement as to the cost and how it was going to
be born by the individual residents already there and the area to
be developed. Has this agreement been reached?
Supervisor Desch replied, we will be getting to that in a moment.
Yes, it has. The Supervisor asked if there were any further
questions on the Environmental Assessment by the Board members?
Councilman Cramer noted that he had one question. On Part 2A,
impact on aesthetic resources, it talks about "cottage" effects.
He asked the Town Planner to take a moment and describe to the
Board what "cottage" effect is?
Town Planner Susan Beeners replied that the way the project has
been designed there are these little mini clusters with three
traditional style homes of fairly small size, clustered together
with a common driveway. This is similar to some of the cottage
type communities that you would see in some of the European or
English towns. That's where she had gotten this wording.
Councilman Cramer asked what kind of square footage will each
cottage unit have?
Ms. Beeners replied, from 1,000 to 1,200 square feet.
Mr. Reynor added, that is living space, it does not include the
deck or the garage. They are one and one-half story.
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked that she keeps hearing the Town
Planner and Mr. Ciaschi saying what may be done in Phase II and
what will be done in Phase III. She remarked that this makes her
feel a little bit uncomfortable to be rezoning on a may be.
However, may be she had misunderstood what had been said.
The Town Planner replied, may be it should be looked at with just
the bare bones of what is permitted in an R-15 density on the
remaining land. Just put the cluster aside, what we are really
talking about is what could the developer or another developer be
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able to do on that remaining 10.8 acres. With the 10% open space
dedication that may be required, on that land, we would be looking
at, with the R-15 density from the 2.2 units an acre, single
family, to 4.4 units per acre with two families on a lot or three
and one-half units per acre if we kept this cluster. With the 10.8
acres, there could be 40 or so units, looking at it roughly like
that and that would be tempered down because of the roads and
everything. It is a very difficult type site to develop because of
the fact that there are so many road connections that either have
to be made to existing roads or that have been required to be
provided just in case there is development South and North. I
can't give you the exact figure but the Planning Board would be
looking at achieving the density that would be somewhat ccmpatable
with the adjacent properties.
• Supervisor Desch stated that that was why he had asked the question
about the Phase II density. All things indicate that it would be
lower.
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that she was very sympathetic to
the present landowners who have said here that they have houses on
lots that exceed the minimum. This has happened before so that
what is there has much larger lots is that what is now being
permitted is very, very small. She stated that she felt that
buffers or open space or transitions zones really cut down on that
kind of disagreement of how the land should be developed.
Supervisor Desch wondered what the number of developed parcels that
abut on the undeveloped land was? Looking at the map he noted
three or four houses.
Town Planner Beeners replied that there were approximately eight
that have houses on them that abut the project.
The Town Supervisor asked if Mr. Lazar's property was the closest?
Mr. Lazar replied no. Neil Alling's property would be the closest.
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked if there had been much public
discussion at the Planning Board meeting? She noted that she had
tried to get the minutes but they were not ready and she wondered
how many people in the public came and talked about their concerns
about this rezoning. She stated that the Board really had not had
a lot of imput about the project.
Town Planner Beeners replied that there was some concern about why
all of a sudden this possible change to a small R-15 lot. Concerns
about the country atmosphere out there, this sudden rather abrupt
change in density. There were several members of the DuBois Road,
Woolf and Grove Road area that made comments like that. She went
on to say that what her opinion was that she felt there was a lot
of land on West Hill, particularly on the East side of DuBois Road,
and also on the West side of Trumansburg Road with different
natural features. Site constraints are going to limit the
extension of utility lines in the forseeable future and that a lot
of what is considered the character of West Hill is going to be
preserved. This site here is not one where views are terribly
critical. It is in a very central location and that this is what
her opinion was on this development.
Supervisor Desch noted that there are large areas on West Hill
already zoned R-15 that today do not have public water and sewer.
He stated that he did not know why, way back in 1954, they were
zoned that way, expect that probably in anticipation, right after
the ordinance was adopted, of the extension of public utilities.
The practical matter is that in the other areas of the Town where
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this kind of rezoning has taken place, it has been of necessity
because even people with four and five acre parcels, with one house
on them, have cane in with requests to subdivide those and to leave
themselves with a 15,000 square foot lot. It's just a practical
size in a lot of areas in todays world to maintain.
Mr. Reynor remarked that the properties along the East on DuBoise
Road, those houses that are facing DuBois Road their back yards
which are very deep are boardering the development. If you have
walked the site you will know that along that East edge there is a
hedge row made of mature trees and that would stay inaddition to a
30' buffer that's required as a set back from the property line
adjacent to the East. You have a very natural set back there.
• Those lots are very deep. There is going to be a big gap from
DuBois Road, you are going to drive in a couple hundred feet of
road before you actually see the development. He went on to say
that he thought this in itself was a transition. You might argue
that if you look at it from an airplane you might say this was a
denser approach to the surroundings but he felt that the site is
somewhat isolated from its neighbors. There are two lots to the
West that are undeveloped. With the exception of Alling and Lazar,
they are the only two hogs that are right up against the
development.
Mr. Lazar stated that the developer should not depend upon other
peoples property to afford a visual impact of the area. If they
want that they should develop it (provide it) themselves.
Councilwoman Raffensperger questioned, this is an environmental
impact statement (assessment form) on the proposal as tentatively
approved by the Planning Board as cluster?
Town Attorney Barney replied no, this may be what you have there
but you are really being asked to rezone R-30 to R-15.
Councilwoman Raffensperger replied, this is what we have.
Supervisor Desch remarked, this is the environmental assessment for
the Phase I portion.
Town Planner Beeners remarked that this form includes both Phase I,
the Phase I subdivision and the proposed change from R-30 to R-15.
Supervisor Desch remarked, this is why you say 23 acres.
Ms. Beeners replied, right.
Town Attorney Barney stated that he did not want to speak for the
Town Planner but if you look at the front page it indicates that it
is dual in the interest of staff time. He stated that he felt the
Town Planner had put it together with a dual purpose in mind. It's
a Planning Board subdivision and a Town Board rezoning.
Supervisor Desch replied, that if you look at the last paragraph on
the recommendation where the Town Planner recommends a negative
determination of environmental significance be made by the Town
Board with respect to the proposed rezoning of Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel Nos. 6-23-1-11.112 and 6-23-1-11.113 from Residence District
R-30 to Residence District R-15. The only thing that he felt the
Board needs to make clear is that when Phase II is done, another
environmental review has to take place specific to that site plan
at the Planning Board level, not related to the zoning but related
to the site plan.
RESOLUTION NO. 185
Town Board 19 September 14, 1987
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Supervisor Desch,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby makes a
negative determination of environmental significance with respect
to the proposed rezoning of Town of Ithaca Tax Parcel Nos.
6-23-1-11.112 and 6-23-1-11.113 from Residence District R-30 to
Residence District R-15.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
CIASCHI AGREEMENT
• Supervisor Desch noted that the Board had before it a revised draft
of the agreement relating to the provision of water and sewer to
that area. He then asked the Town Engineer to comment on the
current draft.
Town Engineer Flumerfelt stated that basically what the Town has
been negotiating and is in the process of negotiating an agreement
with Mr. Ciaschi for construction of water and sewer mains by him
as the developer through the length that would connect the lower
area of DuBois Road with Woolf and Grove Roads area and Tr unansburrg
Road and also included in this agreement are the items pertaining
to the actual work involved by the developer and a timetable for
accomplishing this. He noted that he had the September 2nd version
of the agreement and asked the Town Attorney, if necessary, to help
him with further changes. He went on to say that basically what is
needed from the developer are the agreement to provide an easement
so that the Town can construct, under the contract, the 900 feet
approximately of water and sewer mains extending from DuBois Road
up to the proposed intersection in the subdivision where eventually
Grove Road and Woolf Lane would intersect. That was originally an
almost squared off section, East-West road in a North-South
connector between Woolf and Grove. Now it has more of a curve.
Councilman Cramer noted that the Engineer had said the Town, the
Agreement says Ciaschi, who is designing and who is constructing?
Town Engineer Flumerfelt replied, both. They are designing and
constructing a certain portion in the westerly part of the project.
Supervisor Desch noted that the Town is designing and constructing
the DuBois Road westerly to the intersection. The work that
Ciaschi was doing before and the work that the Town was doing
before (a slight change in the road) is the same.
Councilwoman Raffensperger question if Mr. Ciaschi will be
constructing the water and sewer line going from Grove Road over to
the South?
Supervisor Desch replied, from the intersection of the future Grove
Road to the future Woolf Lane on up to the end of the present Woolf
Lane. It would be a future sewer line as part of Phase II that
would go from that point up to the end of the present Grove Road.
• Councilwoman Raffensperger noted that the original agreement or
discussion was that Mr. Ciaschi would construct the water and sewer
lines running from Grove Road over both ways, this has been
changed, right?
Supervisor Desch, right.
Councilwoman Raffensperger replied that this is what she had asked
at the last meeting. She went on to say that she would like to
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know how this all has changed since the Board approved the first
concept.
Supervisor Desch replied that this is the only change. The reason
for this is that with part of the development going into a future
phase, changes the timing of the construction of the sewer. The
water service to the properties on Grove Road will be served by the
line Ciaschi is putting up Woolf Lane and will be back fed that
way, so that the people in the Town on Grove Place will be getting
water at the same time as all of the other people in the area will
be getting water. The properties on Grove Road and Grove Place,
the sewer will be put in because its part of the contract but there
will not be a point of connection from that sewer down to the sewer
• that Ciaschi is building as part of phase I. So what we did was
ask the people on Grove Road and Grove Place if they had had any
current problems with their septic systems and they said no they
would not be connecting to the sewer system unless the Town
mandated it at some point in the future. So this was a key
question as to the amount of time we felt appropriate to give the
developer to connect that piece of sewer. The water line we don't
care when the developer puts that in because it doesn't effect the
service to the properties that we originally intended to service.
Tim Ciaschi remarked that the agreement states two years.
Supervisor Desch replied, the agreement reads October 15, 1989 in
paragraph 11. As the developer you actually want another year,
right.
Mr. Ciaschi replied yes, I would like three.
Supervisor Desch continued, in terms of the overall agreement, what
else have we changed?
Town Attorney Barney replied, those were the main changes, however,
there were a lot of changes in the language to accomplish the
substance of the changes.
Supervisor Desch remarked, the other thing that was changed was the
question of whether or not the road has to be in before the
utilities or after.
Town Engineer Flumerfelt remarked that he had not seen the last
version of the agreement but he thought it would probably be to
Ciaschi's benefit as the developer, as well as to the Town's
contractor to not completely grade the new roadway up from DuBois
Road until the water and sewer main are installed. For
construction sake, if the area were cleared and stumps were grubbed
out it would be a benefit. Our main concern is getting the water
and sewer lines covered with sufficient materials before freezing
weather.
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked if there was anything in this
water and sewer that is inconsistent with our application to Audit
and Control?
• Town Supervisor Desch replied, it is identical.
Victor Lazar remarked that -he was not clear on one point, what is
the distance between the power line near Woolf Lane and the back of
the DuBois Road properties?
Mr. Reynor responded, that the road was 1,500 feet long.
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Supervisor Desch speaking to the Town Engineer, asked him if when
he talked to the people on Grove Road, were they satisfied with
three years?
Town Engineer Flumerfelt responded that most of them were satisfied
with making it late 1990.
Supervisor Desch replied, then the date in item 11 can be changed
to October 15, 1990.
RESOLUTION NO. 186
• Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilwoman Howell,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby approves
the agreement with Timothy Ciaschi, for Westwood Hills in
substantially this form presented to the Board.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that the Town Board had a
Planning Board recommendation, and once again she stated that she
did not know what happened at the Planning Board level, which says
that they recommend that the Town Board does rezone this, to be
effective once water and sewer are provided to these lands. Is
this rezoning contingent upon this?
Town Attorney John Barney replied, no. You can defer the rezoning
if you want to until the water and sewer is installed or the Town
Board can reject the recommendation of the Planning Board and adopt
the rezoning.
Supervisor Desch remarked that Certificates of Occupancy would not
be issued until the area has water and sewer anyway.
-Councilwoman Raffensperger asked why had the Planning Board
included these restrictions?
Supervisor Desch replied that he was not there, but as he
understood it, the Planning Board said if Mr. Ciaschi executed the
agreement with the Town to provide utilities they were comfortable
with R-15. As far as Phase II is concerned, if the developer goes
back in for site plan approval on an R-15 basis, but does not have
any utilities, he isn't going to get building permits or Health
Department approval. He is tied by this agreement to put the
utilities in, anyway. So it wouldn't make any sense to try to
develop those remaining parcels with wells because you would be
spending more for wells than for public water.
LOCAL LAW NO. 11 - 1987
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilman Bartholf,
• FOCAL LAW NO. 11 - 1987
TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE REZONING THE CIASCHI PROPERTY OFF OF
WOOLF LANE AND GROVE ROAD FROM RESIDENCE DISTRICT R-30 TO RESIDENCE
DISTRICT R-15
The Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ithaca as readopted, amended,
and revised, effective February 26, 1968, and subsequently amended,
be further amended as follows:
Town Board 22 September 14, 1987
1. The zoning map dated July 1, 1954, as amended to date, is
hereby further amended by rezoning the lands described on Schedule
A incorporated into this local law from Residence District R-30 to
Residence District R-15.
2. This local law shall take effect upon its filing with the
Secretary of State or twenty days after its adoption, whichever is
later.
SCHEDULE A
ALL THAT TRACT OR PARCEL OF LAND situate in the Town of Ithaca,
• Tompkins County, New York, being shown generally as Tax Parcel Nos.
6-23-1-11.112 and 6-23-1-11.113 on the Town of Ithaca tax maps
located between the ends of the current Grove Road and Woolf Lane
and DuBois Road.
Supervisor Desch called for a roll call vote.
Councilman Bartholf Voting Aye
Councilman Cramer Voting Aye
Councilwoman Howell Voting Aye
Councilwoman Leary Voting Aye
CouncihTan McPeak Voting Aye
Councilwoman Raffensperger Voting Aye
Supervisor Desch Voting Aye
Local Law No. 11 - 1987, was thereupon declared duly adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF A LOCAL LAW AMENDING THE
TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE TO INCREASE THE FEES FOR BUILDING
PERMITS, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY AND TO REQUIRE A FEE FOR
PUBLICATION OF NOTICES OF HEARING
Proof of posting and publication of a notice of a public hearing to
consider the adoption of a local law amending the Town of Ithaca
Zoning Ordinance to increase the fees for building permits,
certificates of occupancy and to require a fee for publication of
notices of hearing having been presented by the Town Clerk, the
Supervisor opened the public hearing.
As no one present wished to speak for or against the proposed fee
schedule increase, the Supervisor closed the public hearing.
LOCAL LAW NO. 11 - 1987
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Councilwoman
Raffensperger,
LOCAL LAW NO. 11 - 1987
TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO INCREASE THE FEES FOR BUILDING
PERMITS, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY AND COST OF PUBLICATION
The Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ithaca as readopted, amended,
and revised effective February 26, 1968, and subsequently amended,
be further amended as follows:
1. The schedule of fees set forth in Article XIV, Section 75 of
the Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance is amended to read as follows:
Town Board 23 September 14, 1987
Value of Improvement Fee
$ 1 - $ 5,000.00 $ 15.00
$ 5,001 - $ 10,000.00 $ 25.00
$ 10,001 - $ 20,000.00 $ 40.00
$ 20,001 - $ 30,000.00 $ 60.00
$ 30,001 - $ 40,000.00 $ 80.00
$ 40,001 - $ 50,000.00 $ 100.00
$ 50,001 - $ 150,000.00 $ 200.00
$ 150,001 - $ 250,000.00 $ 300.00
$ 250,001 - $ 500,000.00 $ 400.00
$ 500,001 - $1,000,000.00 $ 600.00
$1,000,001 - $5,000,000.00 $1,000.00
• $5,000,001 and over $2,000.00
2. The second paragraph of Article XIV, Section 76, is amended to
read as follows:
"The fee for the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy shall
be $25.00."
3. The second sentence of Article XIV, Section 77, paragraph 4,
is amended to read as follows:
"The applicant shall pay $20.00 for the publication of notices
of the hearing required by law."
4. This local law shall take effect upon its filing with the
Secretary of State or 20 days after its adoption, whichever is
later.
Supervisor Desch called for a roll call vote.
Councilman Bartholf Voting Aye
Councilman Cramer Voting Aye
Councilwoman Howell Voting Aye
Councilwoman Leary Voting Aye
Councilman McPeak Voting Aye
Councilwoman Raffensperger Voting Aye
Supervisor Desch Voting Aye
Local Law No. 12 - 1987, was thereupon declared duly adopted.
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked that the Board had talked,
sometime ago, about fee for planning and environmental features.
Supevisor Desch replied yes, we talked about how to do that on score
kind of demand type basis, as we end up spending a lot of time
reviewing proposals that never materialize.
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF A LOCAL LAW AMENDING THE
TOWN OF ITHACA ORDINANCE REGULATING UNSAFE BUILDINGS AND COLLAPSED
STRUCTURES ADOPTED JULY 7, 1960, TO CHANGE THE REFERENCE FROM THE
NEW YORK STATE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION CODE TO THE NEW YORK STATE
UNIFORM FIRE PREVENTION AND BUILDING CODE
Proof of posting and publication of a notice of a public hearing to
consider a local law amending the Town of Ithaca Ordinance
regulating unsafe buildings and collapsed structures adopted July
7, 1960, to change the reference from the New York State Building
Construction Code to the New York State Uniform Fire Prevention and
Town Board 24 September 14, 1987
Building Code having been presented by the Town Clerk, the
Supervisor opened the public hearing.
As no one present wished to comment for or against the proposed
amendment, the Supervisor closed the public hearing.
LOCAL LAW NO. 13 - 1987
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Councilman Cramer,
LOCAL LAW NO. 13 - 1987
• TO AMEND THE TOWN OF ITHACA ORDINANCE REGULATING UNSAFE BUILDINGS
AND COLLAPSED STRUCTURES TO REFLECT ADOPTION OF THE NEW YORK STATE
UNIFORM FIRE PREVENTION AND BUILDING CODE
The Town of Ithaca Ordinance regulating unsafe buildings and
collapsed structures adopted July 7, 1960, effective August 7,
1970, as the same may have been subsequently amended, is amended as
follows:
1. The reference in the first paragrpah, last sentence is changed
from "New York State Building Construction Code" to "New York State
Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code."
2. This local law shall take effect upon its filing with the
Secretary of State or twenty days after its adoption, whichever is
later.
Supervisor Desch called for a roll call vote.
Councilman Bartholf Voting Aye
Councilman Cramer Voting Aye
Councilwoman Howell Voting Aye
Councilwoman Leary Voting Aye
Councilman McPeak Voting Aye
Councilwoman Raffensperger Voting Aye
Supervisor Desch Voting Aye
Local Law No. 13 - 1987, was thereupon declared duly adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF A LOCAL LAW AMENDING THE
TOWN OF ITHACA ZONING ORDINANCE DELETING EXEMPTION OF AGRICULTURAL
BUILDINGS FROM THE ORDINANCE, EXPANDING THE DEFINITION OF AN
ALTERATION OF ANY BUILDING, ADDING REQUIREMENTS TO OBTAIN A
CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE, AND INCORPORATING REFERENCES TO THE NEW
YORK STATE UNIFORM FIRE PREVENTION AND BUILDING CODE
Proof of posting and publication of notice of a public hearing to
consider the adoption of a local law amending the Town of Ithaca
Zoning Ordinance deleting exemption of agricultural buildings from
• the ordinance, expanding the definition of an alteration of any
building, adding requirements to obtain a Certificate of Compliance
and incorporating references to the New York State Uniform Fire
Prevention and Building Code having been presented by the Town
Clerk, the Supervisor opened the public hearing.
As no one present wished to speak for or against the proposed
amendment, the Supervisor closed the public hearing.
Town Board 25 September 14, 1987
Town Attorney John Barney stated that Secretary of State's Office
has mandated that if we choose to enforce the State's Uniform Fire
Prevention and Building Code, we must have in our laws certain
provisions regarding enforcement. Back when the Town adopted the
old Building Code in 1980 to 181, we adopted a fairly comprehensive
ordinance, Local Law No. 1, 1981, which set out a number of the
enforcement procedures. The problem is that we had some
inconsistent procedures in that local law in contrast to what was
in our Zoning Ordinance. For example, relating to permits to build
and that sort of thing. What we have attempted to do now is to
take the new requirements from the new building code and
incorporate them into the Zoning Ordinance where appropriate,
modify the Zoning Ordinance as necessary and also modify Local Law
• No. 1 for 1981 to reflect these changes. The main area where there
was some differences were in the permit to build section and the
certificate of occupancy section. We are now proposing to amend
Section 75 relating to permit to build and to put in language that
substantially conforms to what the Secreatry of State says we have
to provide for. However, in doing that we did make some
assumptions which you may choose to accept or may choose to reject.
For example, the old zoning ordinance authorizes construction of
accessory buildings in an Agricultural District without the need to
obtain a building permit. We have deleted that in the proposal you
have infront of you. The State Building Codes does permit, under
certain circumstances, accessory building, generally, not only in a
Agricultural District, but generally to be constructed without a
building permit if they are smaller than the limitations placed on
them.
The Town Attorney went on to say that he thought when the Zoning
Ordinance was originally adopted in 1954 we had a tremendous amount
of agricultural land in the Town, at this juncture it seems, from
an enforcement standpoint, better to require a permit to build
anything, with the exceptions listed one through five and not make
a distinction whether it was an Agricultural District or another
district. You may choose to do otherwise. The law was drafted
using that assumption. Before you did not need a building permit
to alter a building, you could alter a building as long as you did
not enlarge it or do anything with the exterior of the building you
did not have to have a building permit. We have now broadened that
out to quite a bit more. We have been involved in a couple of
situations were the need to get a building permit for an alteration
was a question, this attempts to resolve that question. He went on
to say that our ordinance, at the moment, does not specifically
require somebody to get a Certificate of Occupancy once you have
gotten a building permit. The Secretary of State now demands that
whenever a building permit is required a building shall not be
occupied until a Certificate of Occupancy is issued. So we amended
the Zoning Ordinance to provide for that and also a Certificate of
Occupancy.
Councilman Cramer asked, if someone comes in and has an existing
single family house and they want to put an apartment in the
basement and yet the base already has plumbing, heating and
electric, and the renovation costs are less then $10,000.00, do
they need a building permit?
• Building Inspector/Zoning Officer Andrew Frost replied, regardless
of what this might suggest or not suggest, he stated that his
answer would be yes because it's an occupancy conversion from a
building code classification of an A-1 single family occupancy to
an A-2 which is a two family code, which requires that if you have
a conversion, which this would be, it needs to follow a building
code and with that there would be other features, fire safety
features, for example.
Town Board 26 September 14, 1987
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF A LOCAL LAW AMENDING
LOCAL LAW NO. 1 OF THE YEAR 1981, CHANGING THE REFERENCE FROM THE
STATE FIRE PREVENTION CODE TO THE NEW YORK STATE UNIFORM FIRE
PREVENTION AND BUILDING CODE, EXPANDING THE ENFOMNENT AND
ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH REGULATIONS
PROMULGATED BY THE STATE OF NEW YORK UNDER THE UNIFORM FIRE
PREVENTION AND BUILDING CODE AND CHANGING VARIOUS DEFINITIONS AND
REQUIREMENTS RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION UNDER SUCH LAW
Proof of posting and publication of a notice of a public hearing to
consider the adoption of a local law amending Local Law No. 1 of
the year 1981, changing the reference from the State Fire
Prevention Code to the New York State Uniform Fire Prevention and
• Building Code, expanding the enforcement and administrative
provisions in accordance with regulations promulgated by the State
of New York under the Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code and
changing various definitions and requirements relating to
construction under such law having been presented by the Town
Clerk, the Supervisor opened the public hearing.
As no one present wished to speak for or against the proposed
amendment, the Supervisor closed the public hearing.
RESOLUTION NO. 187
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilwoman Howell,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby adjourns
the public hearings on the adoption of a local law amending the
Town of Ithaca Zoning Ordinance deleting exemption of agricultural
buildings from the Ordinance, expanding the definition of an
alteration of any building, adding requirements to obtain a
Certificate of Compliance, and incorporating references to the New
York State Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code and the
adoption of a local law amending Local Law No. 1 of the year 1981,
changing the reference from the State Fire Prevention Code to the
New York State Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code, expanding
the enforcement and administrative provisions in accordance with
regulations promulgated by the State of New York under the Uniform
Fire Prevention and Building Code and changing various definitions
and requirements relating to construction under such law until 8:00
P.M., on October 5, 1987.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
COVENANTS AND BY-LAWS FOR BLACK OAK LANE
Supervisor Desch asked the Town Attorney where he was in the review
process?
Town Attorney Barney replied that he was about one-third of the way
through the covenants and that he has not had a chance to read them
in their entirety. He went on to say that he was having a little
trouble with the definition of lot owners. The concept is that
• there are two types of lots, Class I which is the class that goes
to the subsequent purchaser of the lots and Class II are basically
the lots retained by the developer. The developer retains Class B
status indefinately, in a lot of areas, as I read it. In that
capacity has the right to veto certain actions on the part of the
Homeowners Association or has the right to control the Homeowners
Association. For example, if the Homeowners Association wants to
give an easement it not only takes a majority of the Homeowners but
the developer has to consent to the granting of the easement.
Town Board 27 September 14, 1987
Mr. King replied that when the units have been constructed and sold
and there are only four units left, then the control shifts to the
Association. He went on to say that this was a typical developer
control.
Town Attorney Barney remarked that a quorum was defined as a
presence of 500 or more of the Class A and the presence of the
Class B member. So the Class B member can simply decline to show
up for a meeting and no action can be taken.
Mr. King replied that is true until you get enough people into the
development the developer really is the Homeowners Association.
• Town Attorney Barney replied that there was no time limit on this,
it goes forever.
Mr. King replied no, the Class B classification ends at some point.
Mr. King went on to say that these Covenants and By-Laws are based
on Co monlands concept which was approved by the Board. The new
concept instead of using Class A and Class B is to say that the
developer shall retain control until he has so many units left.
The idea, of course, is that he has to be able to move and
accomplish the construction in all phases inorder to complete the
project before he actually turns over complete control to the unit
owners. One of the problems that is encountered is that some
developers will dump the Homeowners Association on to the unit
owners before the project is complete and leave them with a lot of
his problems that-he should have taken care of.
Supervisor Desch asked when would it be feasible for the Town Board
to meet again, would the 28th be okay?
RESOLUTION NO. 188
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilman McPeak,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca will meet at
noon on September 28, 1987 to consider the Covenants and By-Laws
for the Black Oak Lane project.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
AUTHORIZE AWARD OF BID ON PHASE I OF THE WATER AND SEWER PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO. 189
Motion by Councilman Cramer; seconded by Councilman McPeak,
WHEREAS, twelve bids were received Septmber 2, 1987 for Phase I
Construction of Water and Sanitary Sewer Mains - 1987 Improvements,
ranging in base bid amount from $792,000.00 to $1,310,775.00 and in
total bid amounts, including optional work items, from $837,000.00
to $1,3560,075.00, and
• WHEREAS, the proposal of the low bidder is lowest in cost both
inclusive and exclusive of the optional work items, and
WHEREAS, the low bidder, Vacri Construction Coroporation of
Binghamton, New York, has met allof the requirements and
formalities required for submission of his bid, and appears to be a
reputable contractor, having satisfactorily performed similar work
for the Town of Ithaca under the Phase I contract for water and
sewer extensions in the 1984 improvements project,
Town Board 28 September 14, 1987
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, by the Town Board of the Town of
Ithaca, that the Town Supervisor be authorized to award the
contract for Phase I Construction of Water and Sanitary Sewer Main
- 1987 Improvements, to Vacri Construction Corporation in the base
bid amount of $792,000.00,
AND FURTHER, that the award include the optional work items in the
amount of $45,000.00 for a total of $837,000.00, pending
satisfactory negotiation of an agreement with Timothy Ciaschi,
developer of a proposed subdivision between DuBois Road and Woolf
Lane, whereby said developer will provide easements and construct
water and sewer mains necessary for completion of the planned Town
water and sewe extensions.
• (Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
HOSPITAL ACCESS ROAD
Town Engineer Robert Flumerfelt reported that the bids for the
Hospital Access Road were opened earlier today and that he had not
had a chance to fully review the bids. We received eight bids, the
lowest bid was about $20,000 lower than the first bidding.
RESOLUTION NO. 190
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilman Cramer,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby accept
the apparent low bid of Hill Construction, on the Hospital Access
Road subject to the complete review by the Town Engineer and the
Town Attorney and further subject to completion of the financial
arrangements with the other participants.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
78th ANNUAL CONFERENCE OF NEW YORK STATE MAGISTRATES ASSOCIATION
RESOLUTION NO. 191
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilwoman Howell,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorize Justice Merton Wallenbeck, Justice Warren Blye and Court
Clerk Lury Wallenbeck to attend the 78th Annual Conference of New
York State Magistrates Association at Ellenville, New York, October
4, 5, 6, and 7, 1987.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf, and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
BUILDING OFFICIALS CONFERENCE
RESOLUTION NO. 192
Motion by Councilman Bartholf; seconded by Councilman McPeak,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorize Building Inspector/Zoning Officer Andrew Frost to attend
the New York State Building Officials Conference at Ellenville, New
York, October 7, 8, and 9, 1987.
Town Board 29 September 14, 1987
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
PINE TREE/HONNESS LANE INTERSECTION
Town Engineer Flumerfelt presented the following report on the
Honness Lane/Pine Tree Road Intersection:
In reponse to concer of motorists and area residents regarding
safety at the intersection of Honness Lane and Pine Tree Road,
particularly due to poor visibility for the driver on the Honness
Lane approach to the intersection, a condition survey was done.
The resulting indication is that the accomplishment of a few
relatively minor work items could greatly improve drivers'
visibility.
The intersection is presently controlled by a STOP sign on the
Honness Lane approach. The driver's vision of Pine Tree Road
traffic, when stopped at this approach, is somewhat blocked to the
left (north) by a large double mailbox, but much more severely
restricted to the right (south) by a utility company pole, the
trunk of a hickory tree (about 18" diameter) , and the ends of two
hedges. When the driver is stopped, the trees and utility pole
nearly appear to combine in width, side by side, forming one wide
obstruction. All of the obstructions to good visibility lie within
the 50 foot right-of-way of one or both roads, Pine Tree Road being
• County Road and Honness Lane, a Town road. The hickory, although
• stately tree, is only 8feet from the edge of the Pine Tree Road
pavement (in itself a safety concern) and severely intrudes into
the electric wires running in four directions from the power pole
only 12 feet away. Another hickory, if not even larger and more
shapely exists in the Cassels' yard only 12 feet from the
aforementioned tree, and, for this reason, loss of the roadside
tree might not be so hardfelt.
My recommendations are as follows:
1. Move the double mailbox on the north side of the intersection
back about 3 feet and request that the County place some
additional shoulder material for the mail truck.
2. Request that the County and/or utility company remove the
hickory tree closest to Pine Tree Road.
3. Remove approximately 8 feet from the ends of the two hedges
projecting into the highway right-of-way.
Relocation of the utility pole would be very difficult since it
holds both north-south and east-west runs of wires. Accomplishment
of the above recommendations would, however, at relatively little
cost or difficutly, improve drivers' visibility to a very
acceptable level and greatly improve safety conditions at the
intersection.
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked that she was very uncomfortable
about doing any of this proposed work until the people had been
contacted. She went to say that she noticed the Town Engineer
talked about the right-of-ways, noting that she was sure the Town
Engineer had checked the deeds, but that many of the deeds on Pine
Tree Road go to the center line. She wondered about the Cassell's
property, how their deed read.
Town Engineer Flumerfelt responded that he had looked at the deeds
but that he could not recall what it said about the right-of-way
except that it is 50 feet. He noted that the right-of--way on both
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roads was 50 feet. He stated that he always thought that within
that 50 foot right-of-way, that the County in this instance on Pine
Tree Road, would have the right to clear obstruction.
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that many of the deeds go to the
center of the road and because of this, when the County put in the
storm sewers, the County had to negotiate with us what they could
do off the paved portion of the road. This is something, she
stated that she was sure the Cassells would remember. You need to
deal with this in a reasonable manner.
Supervisor Desch added, also on the mail box which should be moved
back, the Post Office should be consulted on this.
Town Engineer Flumerfelt stated that he had tried to contact the
Cassels today, without any luck.
No action was taken on the recommendation. The Town Engineer will
talk with property owners who would be involved with any changes.
RENOVATION OF TOWN HALL HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM
Town Engineer Robert Flumerfelt stated that after looking at the
approximate costs estimated by the Consulting Engineer, William
Albern, on the heating and air conditioning renovations, if we
replace our present units the three in the Board room and the three
in the Engineering Department, with similar new units which are
somewhat quieter, it would be by far the cheapest and simplist
solution to our problems. Estimated cost of about $10,000 for new
units up stairs and down, plus the $1,500 engineering fee, or
$11,500 versus the other option of putting three new units upstairs
and a central system for the Board room, which would be still more
quieter but more expensive or a total of $25,000. He stated that
his recommendation would be to replace the units with similar ones,
both upstairs and down.
Councilman Cramer asked what will happen to existing heating plant
in the other portions of the building?
Town Engineer Flumerfelt replied that these would remain the way
they are.
Supervisor Desch remarked that it did not make sense to spend
$25,000 on heating and ventulating in this building because in some
point in time we are going to need more space, probably sooner than
later.
RESOLUTION NO. 193
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilwoman Howell,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorize to take bids on the renovation of the Town Hall heating
and ventulating system.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
EAST SHORE DRIVE SPECIAL LAND USE DISTRICT
Supervisor Desch asked the Board members for their opinions as to
whether they were comfortable in referring this matter back to the
Planning Board?
Town Board 31 September 14, 1987
Councilwoman Raffensperger replied, in the resolution of referral,
can we ask them to investigate other possible solutions, or any
other alternatives that are open to us?
Town Planner Beeners replied that she felt all the other
alternatives had been investigated.
Councilman Bartholf asked, how much land is Stewart Park giving up
for this proposal? None are they?
Supervisor Desch replied that the question is that probably a
thousand different people in Ithaca have a thousand different
answers as to where Stewart Park starts and ends. You could say
that the Youth Facility encroaches on Stewart Park, it either does
or it doesn't. If it does, you then have to ask the question why
is that anymore of a problem or less of a problem than the Chamber
building would be in terms of the environment. You certainly are
leaving a tremendous amount of open space.
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that as she understood the
project, it was for a wider use than just the Chamber building.
She went on to say that as she understood it, there were potential
plans for this, she asked if she had misunderstood this?
Supervisor Desch replied, that his understanding was that the Mixed
Use Zone would be from a business standpoint, pretty clearly
defined, so that it would be something like we did at the Biggs
Complex and Odd Fellows where it would be narrowly defined in terms
of what is permitted.
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked, but it isn't just going to be
that Chamber building setting there?
Supervisor Desch replied, it depends on what they come back with.
Susan Beeners replied, you have an attachment that shows the
preliminary general plans for the 2.3 acres. The Chamber was
encouraged by me to go out and talk to adjacent neighbors and see
whether there could be some type of a unified plan for limited
professional office development. From a land use concept she felt
this was good because we would have a transitional zone where there
now is badly run down property.
Councilwoman Howell remarked that to see something looking nice and
kept up well, would be an asset, that area is really not well kept.
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked that she felt the plans looked
real nice but her question was what else is attached to this that
we don't know about.
Councilman Cramer questioned, what if one of the adjacent property
owners come back and say they do not want to sell their property
and they do not want a Multiple Use Zone in the area. What will
happen to the Chamber proposal? Is the property too small a parcel
for the Board to consider for rezoning irrespective of the mixed
use? Are we telling the Chamber that this is the only type of
provision we will accept?
Supervisor Desch replied possibly, because the property is so
narrow the ingress and egress problems are real. They need more
space to get a unified ingress and egress to that whole area.
Town Planner Susan Beeners noted that the access was being taken
care of now by the license from the City, but as we have
interpreted the provisions of the Special Land Use District it
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appears that a two acre minimum might be necessary for the
establishment of a district of this type.
Councilwoman Raffensperger replied that a variance could be given
as variances certainly have been given before.
RESOLUTION NO. 194
Motion by Councilwoman Howell; seconded by Councilman McPeak,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby refers
the Special Land Use District for the Chamber of Commerce, per
their letter of September 15, 1987, to the Planning Board, and
FURTHER BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Board be requested to
review other mechanisms for providing for use of the land.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
VILLAGE OF LANSING BOARD AS LEAD AGENCY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF
THE PROPOSED "SUN DOWN FARMS" DEVELOPMENT
Supervisor Desch stated that the only reason for this item was that
the Board needs to indicate to the Village of Lansing that we agree
with their being lead agency.
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that the Town Planner had assured
her that she would keep track of the proposal. She went on to say
that she has had telephone calls from people in Forest Home who are
disturbed about the potential for the project. With Triphammer
Road and everything we should show interest in the progress,
especially with traffic.
Susan Beeners stated that she had talked to the Village Zoning
Officer about this project and the Beck Subdivison which is across
the street.
RESOLUTION NO. 195
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Councilman Cramer,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby declares
that it does not object to the Village of Lansing being lead agency
for the Sun Down Farms proposed project.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
AUTHORIZE TOWN ATTORNEY TO DEFEND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ON THE
BOWER LAW SUIT
RESOLUTION NO. 196
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilwoman Raffensperger,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorize the Town Attorney to represent the Zoning Board of
Appeals in the matter of the Bower law suit.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
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TOWN OF ITHACA WARRANTS
RESOLUTION NO. 197
Motion by Councilman Cramer; seconded by Councilman Bartholf,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby approves
the Town of Ithaca Warrants dated September 14, 1987, in the
following accounts:
General Fund - Town Wide. ... . . ....... .. . . . . . . .$51,989.36
General Fund - Outside Village. .. . ...... ......$15,101.40
Highway Fund. . . . . ... .. . . . . .. . .. ... ... ..... . ...$82,705.16
Water and Sewer Fund. . . .... .. . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . .$46,787.11
Lighting District Fund.. .$ 447.96
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
BOLTON POINT WARRANTS
RESOLUTION NO. 198
Motion by Supervisor Desch; seconded by Councilman McPeak,
RESOLVED, that the Bolton Point Warrants dated September 14, 1987,
in the Operating Account are hereby approved, in the amount of
$573,638.97 after review and upon the recommendation of the
Southern Cayuga Lake Intermunicipal Water Commission, they are in
order for payment.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf, and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
AUTHORIZE ATTENDANCE AT ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE SEMINAR
RESOLUTION NO. 199
Motion by Councilman McPeak; seconded by Councilman Cramer,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby
authorize Constance E. Allen to attend the workshop, "Alcohol and
Drug Abuse in the Workplace" to be held at Tompkins Cortland
Community College, September 23, 1987. Cost of workshop is $30.00
plus mileage to be charged to General Fund Townwide Budget
Contractual A1340.400.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
FINANCIAL STATEMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 200
Motion by Councilman Cramer; seconded by Councilwoman
Raffensperger,
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby approve
the August Financial Statement.
(Desch, McPeak, Raffensperger, Cramer, Howell, Bartholf and Leary
voting Aye. Nays - none) .
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Councilwoman Leary asked if it was necessary for the Town Board to
take any action on County Representative Livesay's suggestion about
looking into our zoning to see if it protects us enough against
private landfills?
Supervisor Desch replied that the Town Attorney would be looking at
this and it is something that the Codes and Ordinance Committee
should discuss.
Councilwoman Leary then asked about the item in the Supervisor's
report about the request to donate $5,000 for the Ithaca Centenial.
She asked what about the inkind services, is that legal?
Supervisor Desch responded, only if it can be shown that it
benefits the Town. He stated that he had no idea what the City
might need. The problem is that the activities take place almost
totally in the City. We will just have to ask the City if there
are any inkind services that relate to activities in the Town.
ADJOURIZ=
The meeting was duly adjourned.
Town Clerk