HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB Minutes 2011-08-22
Study Sessionof the Ithaca Town Board
Monday, August 22, 2011 at 4:30 p.m.
215 North Tioga Street, Ithaca, NY 14850
Minutes
Board Members Present:
Herb Engman, Supervisor; Bill Goodman, Pat Leary, Tee-
Ann Hunter, Eric Levine, Rich DePaolo, Absent: Nahmin Horwitz
The meeting was called to order at 4:32 p.m.
Review Draft Agenda for Regular Meeting
Mr. DePaolo asked when the discussion regarding the study of West Hill was going to
happen. Discussion followed with Mr. Engman stating that there is a budget concern
about it and Ms. Ritter will be here shortly so we can talk about it under budget and go
from there.
Town Official’s Reports
Mike Solvig – The bond sale was held and agents for Tompkins Trust were the lowest
bidder at 2.955% which is the best rate we have on any of our bonds. He had hoped for
st.
under 4% and to be under 3% is really great. The closing will be September 1
Mr. Engman asked Ms. Drake to explain Smart Work. She explained that it is a way of
going through processes that some County agencies have been using which are
consultants through TC3 to see what is causing backlogs, redundancies etc. and
evaluating what hanging up certain processes. We are going to try it with building
permits. Mr. Engman added that although it isn’t a part of it, he would like to add a
survey for customers. Discussion followed on the credentials of the consultants and
Ms. Drake explained that basically what they do is prepare by looking at the existing
background and process and taking an outside look at the big picture, which takes
personalities out of the equation and look at what could be done when there is no
money or extra staff to throw at it.
Mr. Engman reported that we did receive the $21,000 check from Ulysses and now we
still have to negotiate water loss on both sides of the border. He suggested and asked
the Board to approve keeping the same team of Eric Levine, Jim Weber and himself ast
he negotiating team. The Board agreed.
Mr. Engman reminded the Board about the report and action plan sent out by Katie
Stoner which is scheduled for October.
Mr. Engman moved the action items before Reports.
Consider Town Hall/HVAC Air Quality Study
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Mr. Weber reviewed the scope of the RFP and what they are going to report. The
solutions or mitigations and any associated costs are not included in this contract. They
will be taking samples at start-up and shut-down of the system(s) since it seems there
are issues then and they will test throughout the work day at different periods.
Discussion followed.
TB RESOLUTION No. 2011- 132: Authorization to Award Contract and Establish a
Capital Project Fund for the Town Hall HVAC/Air Quality Project
WHEREAS
the Operations Committee and the Safety Committee recommended a
study/investigation be done on the Town Hall HVAC/Air Quality and
WHEREAS
on January 10, 2011 the Town Board agreed to move forward with an RFQ
to determine a cost for the investigationand
WHEREAS
on July 20, 2011 the Town of Ithaca Director of Public Works/Highway
Superintendent received 3 proposals for the Town Hall HVAC/Air Quality Study ranging
from $18,000+/- $20,000+/- and
WHEREAS:
The members of the Operations Committee have reviewed the proposals
and qualifications of the responding firms and determined that O’Brien & Gere meet the
qualifications sought and
WHEREAS the Operations Committee recommends that the project be awarded to
O’Brien & Gere at the submitted cost of $18,382.00 for the total project and
now therefore be it
RESOLVED:
that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca authorizes the award of the
contract for the Town Hall HVAC/Air Quality to O’Brien & Gere, of Syracuse New York,
subject to final approval of the contract documents by the Town Engineer and Attorney
for the Town, and be it further
RESOLVED:
that the Town Supervisor is authorized to execute said contract upon such
approval;
MOVED: Rich DePaolo SECONDED: Bill Goodman
VOTE Ayes: Engman, Goodman, Leary, Hunter, Levine, and DePaolo
Absent: Horwitz Motion passed unanimously.
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Consider Setting a Public Hearing for a Noise Permit for St. Catherine of Siena
Parish Carnival
TB RESOLUTION NO. 2011- 133: Set Public Hearing for consideration of a Noise
Permit for the St Catherine of Siena Festival
WHEREAS
the Town of Ithaca has received a Noise Permit application from St
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Catherine of Siena Parish Festival on September 17 from 11am to 9 pm and
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September 18 from 11 am to 6 pm,
Therefore be it
RESOLVED
, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hold a public hearing at the
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Town Hall, 215 North Tioga Street, Ithaca, New York, on the 12 day of September,
2011, at 5:45 p.m. for the purpose of considering the above Noise Permit., and
FURTHER RESOLVED
, that at such time and place all persons interested in the
proposed permits may be heard concerning the same; and
FURTHER RESOLVED
, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca is hereby authorized
and directed to publish a notice of such public hearing in the official newspaper of the
Town of Ithaca and to post a copy of same on the signboard of the Town of Ithaca.
MOVED: Bill Goodman SECONDED: Rich DePaolo
VOTE Ayes: Engman, Goodman, Leary, Hunter, Levine, and DePaolo
Absent: Horwitz Motion passed unanimously.
Consider Approval of Recognition of United Auto Workers (UAW) Local 2300 as
Exclusive Representative for the Non-Management Technical, Office and Clerical
Staff of the Southern Cayuga Lake Intermunicipal Water Commission
Ms. Drake explained and the Board questioned if this was surprise and both Ms. Drake
and Mr. Engman explained that there has been some turmoil for a while at Bolton Point
and it is about stability and security not a wage or benefit issue and the result may be
some better processes.
TB RESOLUTION NO. 2011- 133: Set Public Hearing for consideration of a Noise
Permit for the St Catherine of Siena Festival
WHEREAS
the Town of Ithaca has received a Noise Permit application from St
th
Catherine of Siena Parish Festival on September 17 from 11am to 9 pm and
th
September 18 from 11 am to 6 pm,
Therefore be it
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RESOLVED
, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hold a public hearing at the
th
Town Hall, 215 North Tioga Street, Ithaca, New York, on the 12 day of September,
2011, at 5:45 p.m. for the purpose of considering the above Noise Permit., and
FURTHER RESOLVED
, that at such time and place all persons interested in the
proposed permits may be heard concerning the same; and
FURTHER RESOLVED
, that the Town Clerk of the Town of Ithaca is hereby authorized
and directed to publish a notice of such public hearing in the official newspaper of the
Town of Ithaca and to post a copy of same on the signboard of the Town of Ithaca.
MOVED: Bill Goodman SECONDED: Rich DePaolo
VOTE Ayes: Engman, Goodman, Leary, Hunter, Levine, and DePaolo
Absent: Horwitz Motion passed unanimously.
Consider Consent Agenda Items
TB RESOLUTION NO. 2011-135: Consent Agenda
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby approves
and/or adopts the resolutions for the following Consent Agenda items:
Town of Ithaca Abstract
a.
Approval of Minutes of July, 25, and August 8, 2011
b.
MOVED: Bill Goodman SECONDED: Eric Levine
VOTE Ayes: Engman, Goodman, Leary, Hunter, Levine, and DePaolo
Absent: Horwitz Motion passed unanimously.
Report from Committees
Budget Committee
– Mr. Engman reported that there are some hard choices to be
made and he asked Mr. Solvig to hand out a spreadsheet that was discussed. It will be
reviewed in detail as a discussion item later in the meeting.
Codes and Ordinances Committee
– Mr. Goodman reported that they have not met
since last study session but will be finishing up garages and conservation zone
language and moving them to the Board.
Comprehensive Plan Committee
– Mr. Engman reported that they have not met, but
will have a large packet for the next meeting to begin reviewing.
Planning Committee
– Mr. DePaolo reported that they met and talked exclusively
about the Conifer proposal and made significant progress in some elements of the law,
particularly putting on putting income levels in the law as opposed to referencing the
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federal and state regulations and they are waiting for comments from Susan Brock and
Conifer to come back. There is also a special meeting on Thursday to discuss the
design elements of the law.
Personnel Committee
– Ms. Hunter reported that Dan Thaete has been hired as the
new civil engineer and interviews for the new typist at Bolton Point were held. Ms.
Hunter asked Judy to explain the ancillary benefit discussion. Ms. Drake reported that
some members of the Consortium have better ancillary benefits and she has been
reviewing those; she is especially interested in the dental benefit that CSEA has; the
larger the group the better the rates. Ms. Hunter reported that they began talking about
the salary and benefits component of the budget, assuming going over the 2% cap as
well as looking at the Coaching and Discipline policy we have in preparation for union
negotiations.
Public Works Committee
– Mr. Goodman reported that prior to the meeting, he and
Mr. DePaolo met with Mr. Mecenas and Ms. Emilian and Ms. Edmondson who have
complained about drainage issues caused by Mr. Mecenas’ construction. Mr. Mecenas
presented some mitigation plans but the results won’t be evident until next spring.
Some residents from Forest Home talked about some features of the traffic calming that
were not to their liking. Mr. Goodman said they might try to meet with the Forest Home
Association to get a feel for what everyone thinks and also to relay that some of their
complaints are not on the Town’s portion of the road(s). There was some discussion on
changing the color of the Town Hall roof which was upon recommendation from Ms.
Stoner, our Sustainability Planner. There was some discussion on this subject. There
is no historic issue.
Mr. Goodman added that they had an update on projects and the Penny Lane parking
local law will be considered at the next Town Board meeting.
They also reviewed the Danby Road Preservation Law and they are following what
happens with the County’s attempt. Because there are so many drafts and/or templates
out there, the thought is to wait and see because we can do it quickly if needed. Mr.
Engman again cautioned that we need something in place to set the stage for
negotiating a Road Use Agreement with developers. Because we do not allow drilling,
the most affected might be developers such as the LINaC project coming up by Cornell.
It will give the Town some input on establishing the haul routes. Discussion followed.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Redistricting
– Mr. Engman reported that he attended two of the recent meetings and
made the point that the Town would prefer to have fewer representatives that truly
represent our town instead of slivers of the Town being portioned out. There is another
meeting tomorrow night in Varna at 5:30 p.m. He added that someone asked about
Villages and off-the-cuff he responded that Villages should be considered part of the
town in which they reside, but then it got confusing. There was some discussion on the
independent commission and its makeup that is making this decision/recommendation.
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Initial Budget Discussion
– Mr. Solvig explained the packet (Attachment #1)
The spreadsheets explained the different tax levy increases under different scenarios.
The first page was 2010 and 2011 YTD to give background especially regarding 2010
and the new Highway tax and a large amount taken out of the Fire Protection Fund to
keep a low levy increase. In 2011, the tax rate for Fire Protection went back up 50%
and the Highway and General stayed the same with a 6% increase in tax.
The next page showed the budget with the 2% tax cap and he is very worried about the
Fire Protection and Highway Funds that would not be funded to a level he is
comfortable with for dealing with emergencies. He thinks we need to get the level back
to the 2009 level. His projections are under the premise that the basic fire tax rate has
to go back up. Different scenarios were explained with General Fund supporting the
smaller increases in different funds and that is not sustainable.
Increasing only the Fire Protection Fund to get it back to where it should be is a 4.9%
increase in the tax levy. Just that puts the Town over the 2% level. We can still use
some of the General Fund, but again, that is not sustainable and leaves us vulnerable to
unforeseen emergency expenditures.
The Board discussed the unknowns such as the growth in assessments, NYS
Comptroller information and “escalator” that have not come out yet etc.
Budget implications and discussion on SEQR and West Hill Study
Ms. Ritter explained what she has proposed for the budget. Through the
Comprehensive Plan Committee, a West Hill Neighborhood Plan which would require a
regulatory plan for the area based on meetings with the land owners and residents in
the area and establish a different kind of zoning, such as Form-Based Zoning which
requires a charette. A charette is a process where you bring in designers who visualize
and put on paper what people are saying and come up with a regulatory plan. She has
talked to a few companies and the cost is approximately $100K and another $100K to
put it into a regulatory plan. She added that it is unlikely that this would be finished in a
year. The usual is 9 – 18 months for the process. Discussion followed. Ms. Ritter
detailed the charette; it is very intense and very costly up front. She added that in
talking with the people who do these, they say it is very interesting what comes out of
these studies and interactions with the residents and landowners because the tables
are kind of turned and they have different terminology that residents understand and
use and have a lot of success getting buy-in from residents. She added that the West
Hill is the only area she feels needs a charette; East Hill has a plan envisioned and
driven by Cornell, South Hill has only one major landowner and he has a vision already
and he likes mixed use also. So those other areas can probably be done by planned
development zones or taking their plans and putting them into a regulatory plan. West
Hill is the most contentious with many owners and different views and plans already
started and so that is the priority.
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There is also the SEQR process for the Comprehensive Plan and/or the Form Based
Zoning because some areas will be upzoned. A traffic study and service/utilities study
would be needed. Discussion followed on possibly using local designers to build the
team might lower the price.
Mr. DePaolo commented that we are assuming a charette will work and the plan is
going to accommodate a certain number of people, but we can spend less money and
answer the fundamental questions of whether or not that kind of plan can work given
what we are dealing with already on West Hill. He thought the board had a disconnect
because it still hasn’t answered the question of whether the concept of a neighborhood
is good for the area because you predict a population range and range of vehicles; so
answer the question first. For example: We are thinking of putting 2K people here in
this geographic area. How does that pan out in terms of vehicles? What do we have
and what do we need in order to make that happen? Instead of saying “plan a
neighborhood” for $200K. Ms. Ritter joined in saying that we need parameters like
where and how many and how much commercial. Mr. DePaolo thought it was easier to
deal with ranges because right now we are assuming it will work. He wants the
fundamental questions asked and answered before getting into the level of detail
involved in a charette. That is a whole lot of planning and minutia that in a general
sense might not work.
Mr. Engman commented that he thought they have gotten very close to some of the
answers to some of those questions through the Comprehensive Plan process. There
have been traffic counts for the roads leading into the City and the intersections in the
City. Sewer and water have been looked at for the projected growth also. What else?
Ms. Hunter responded that we are in the middle of a comprehensive plan that will result
in a plan for a suggested land use map, not a detailed plan. She was concerned that
this West Hill Study talked about during the moratorium was supposed to be a feasibility
study and it seems to be morphing into a planning exercise and since we have to do a
gEIS on the Comprehensive Plan anyway. Ms. Hunter thought we should be studying
these things and assessing feasibility as we go instead of in a hindsight fashion stating
that she would hate to have us arrive at and adopt a Comprehensive Plan and we don’t
do a full gEIS, go to the expense of updating our zoning, then do the gEIS on the zoning
and find out there are a multitude of affects and potentially non-mitigatable impacts. We
are going down the road without assessing the feasibility as we go. In recommending
the West Hill Study, it was supposed to be a feasibility study. Ms. Ritter responded that
we have had this money for over 2 years and the hangup has been what are we doing
on West Hill and therefore what are we going to study? She didn’t know how to get past
that. Ms. Hunter responded that you propose some increases in population and
increases in commercial activity and you assess the impacts of those increases and
study the impacts and if they are absorbable then you move forward with a plan.
Discussion followed. Ms. Hunter felt that we should do a GEIS on the Comprehensive
Plan for public comment. Mr. Engman said this is a subject that needs to be continued
at another meeting.
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Mr. Engman brought the topic back to the budget and wanted everyone to start thinking
about fringe benefits because that is the most dramatic increase in the town, from
approximately 30% to 50% and we are going to have to start thinking about that. With
the stock market collapse the retirement costs may not come down and we need to
think about how to slow the growth of our benefit package. This is not a discussion for
tonight, but something we have to think about.
PILOTs
– Mr. Engman started the conversation by stating that he found out that TCAD
had been working with Ithaca Beer for two years and we didn’t know about it. We need
to be more in tune with what TCAD does and has in the works. Discussion followed.
Mr. Goodman reported that he went to the public hearing regarding the PILOT for IB
and did communicate to TCAD that we have no representation or communication with
them to keep informed and educated. Discussion followed on ways to accomplish this
and the Ms. Hunter asked if the PILOT language is in the local law for the proposal for
Conifer. Mr. Engman was not sure but that is the type of thing we need to watch for.
Mr. Goodman thought you would not put the PILOT in the local law but it should be
worked on along with the local law and Ms. Hunter rejoined that knowing about any
PILOT needs to happen before considering the local law/pdz.
Deputy Supervisor
– Mr. Engman explained that he has discussed with Mr. Goodman
expanding the role of the Deputy Town Supervisor with Mr. Goodman attending more
meetings, being available to fill in for Mr. Engman when necessary, learning more about
management and supervision of staff and the other administrative responsibilities of the
town. Mr. Engman proposed taking 20% of his salary in the administrative line and
there would be no net change in the budget. Similar to what Cathy Valentino and Mary
Russell did in the past. He asked the Board to let him know their thoughts or
comments.
Mr. Engman gave an update on the Hayts Chapel and Schoolhouse, stating that
Historic Ithaca is taking another look at attempting to take over the historic site.
Review of Correspondence – None
Other
– Mr. Engman gave an update on the costs for dog control stating that in 2012
the town’s costs will be down about $4K and hopefully down a bit more when the new
contract is negotiated. The variable is that many of the smaller municipalities have
found that their share is higher than expected and if any leave, the town’s costs will go
up again. It is a very shaky and tenuous partnership right now; many of the smaller
municipalities have essentially been subsidized by the city and the town.
Trumansburg Water Issue
– Mr. Engman reported that he and Mr. Weber met with the
health department and the next step would be to meet with the town of Ulysses who are
very antsy and want to move this along, but there are a lot of offshoot angles to think
about and consider.
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West Hill Study - Mr. Goodman asked when the discussion is going to be held and at
what level? Mr. Engman thought it was already decided that the Planning Committee
would start the discussion and Ms. Hunter asked if or when the correlation between the
Study and the Comprehensive Plan and the SEQR process and how this particular
study will happen. Mr. Engman responded that the Comprehensive Plan Committee
hasn't even seen the whole plan yet, but will at the next meeting. Ms. Hunter felt that
the assessment of the impacts has to play a role in the planning. Discussion followed.
Mr. Goodman added that the Planning Committee could begin discussions, and there
are usually more than the three board members there and it could be a start. The
general consensus was to start the discussion at the Planning Committee meeting and
continue it at the next study session.
Civil Service - Ms. Drake explained the new Tompkins County Civil Service website
and schedule which will allow for expanded lists for open positions.
Motion made by Pat Leary to adjourn and seconded by Tee-Ann Hunter at 6:48 p.m.
Unanimous.
Respectfu
PauHefte Terwrniger
Town Clerk