HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB Minutes 1984-05-31 TOWN OF ITHACA
SPECIAL BOARD MEETING
May 31 , 1984
At a Special Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca ,
Tompkins County , New York , held at the Town Offices at 126 East
Seneca Street , Ithaca , New York , at twelve noon , on the 31st day of
May , 1984 , there were :
® PRESENT : Noel Desch , Supervisor
George Kugler , Councilman
Shirley Raffensperger , Councilwcman
Marc Cramer, Councilman
Henry McPeak , Councilman
Gloria Howell , Councilwoman
Robert Bartholf , Councilman
ALSO PRESENT : Lawrence Fabbroni , Town Engineer
Peter Lovi , Town Planner
Leslie Dotson , Tompkins County Planning
Representatives of the Media :
Ellen Abbott , WTKO
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Supervisor led the assemblage in the Pledge of Allegiance .
Supervisor Desch reported that the closing was held yesterday in
New York City for the Town and City for the notes on the joint
sewer project . The Town had 623 notes , the City had 425 . The
Supervisor stated that the interest rate was printed wrong on the
Town ' s notes so he had to sign all 623 notes by hand , which took
him over one hour .
REVIEW RECOMMMATIONS OF SIX MILE CREEK STUDY REPORT
Supervisor Desch reported that in early April the Six Mile Creek
Study Report was released . He went on to report that he had
written to the Mayor of the City and they are in agreement that the
Environmental Review should be completed before moving forward , but
it has not been agreed that the Town should be lead agency .
The Supervisor went on to say that the City filled out the
Environmental Review on their own forms and attempted to get the
Town Planning Board to review , however , the Planning Board would
not review because the City did not follow Town procedures . The
® Supervisor presented the proposed Memorandum of Understanding ( copy
attached ) . He went on to say that unfortunately, the nature of the
recommendations make it hard to come up with something that is
reasonable . The stumbling block is Noel Public Access and No . 2
Public Entrances . Can we afford to give up our authority to be
lead agency for Noel and No . 2 ?
No . 3 - Prohibited Activities . (City ) City property .
No . 4 - Gorge Rangers . (City)
No . 5 - Overseer Committee . (City)
No . 6 - Circle Greenway . (City)
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AGREa ENT
The City of Ithaca and the Town of Ithaca agree that the City will be the lead
agency and the Toi,m . titill bean involved agency on . recommendations numbered 1
through 6 and number 14 ( attached) .
Recommendations numbered 7 through 13 have not been addressed at this time as
to lead agency status .
It is agreed by the City and the Town that the City lead agency designation on
recommendations numbered 1 through 6 and number 14 , does not prejudice the
To�.n ' s position as to determination of lead agency designation on items numbered
7 tizrough 13 . Nor does it create any presumption , that the City will be the lead
agency in relation to further environme Mile Creek
ntal studies regarding the Six
Watershed area .
John C . Gutenberger , Mayor .
Dated : City of Ithaca
Noel Desch , Supervisor
Dated : Town of . Ithaca .
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human impact On the area must be control Ied ,
TH : REFOf2E , BE IT RESOLVED , That the Six Hi le Creek Study Committee reccnnmends
+ th .tt lhC City of I th3ca institute a Six mile Creek mana ( 10nwnt prodrarn which
includes the following :
1 . PUBLIC ACCESS . The City should pernril public access to the Sir.
Hiie Gorge for walking, and nature study between Aurora Street and
the sixty foot dam only on marked paths speciFied for such purposes ,
Access to the reservoir area above the sixty foot dam and the surroundino
shore area should be prohibited except by special permit from the
i Department of .Public Works for scientific studies . No access should be
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rmitted between sunset and sunrise .
2 . PUBLIC ENTRANCES . The Committee reconvnends that there be only six
entrances , all to be markcd :
i Hudson - Street at Renzetti Place ,
6 Giles Street at Columbia at the present stairway ,
Giles Street into the Indian Camp Ground ( west of bridge ) .
t Giles Street to VanNatta ' s Dam Pond ( east of bridge ) .
Giles Street just below East State . Street ,
i Slaterville Road ( Route 79 ) as near Honness Lane as possible .
i ( to be selected by Circle Greenway in consultation with
1 the Town of Ithaca . )
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Public parking for gorge use should be maintained only at Vanhatta ' s
Dam Pond just south of Giles Street bridge .
; . PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES . The City should prohibit the folIowinq activities
throughout the gorge area :
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Boat inq
Ice ske . linq_
Campinq
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Amp IIFicd Sound
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Hunt inq , Shoot inq and carr' yinq armN
Motorized vehicle and bicycle riding
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Su(n1) 1a1" y of Reconunendat ions
f y , GORGE RAtJGER . The position of Six Mile Creek Goroe Ranger should
be establ -ished to advise users of regulations governing Six Mile
Creek and to demonstrate the City ' s intention of protecting such
a unique natural area . The Ranger should be provided with adequate
communication equipment to communicate readily wi. th law enforcement
agencies .
The Ranger will work under the direction -of the Superintendent of
Public Works and will serve as liaison with the Overseer Committee
and Circle Greenway .
5 _ OVERSEER COMMITTEE . The Mayor should restructure the current committee
as the Six Mile Creek Overseer Committee for a period extending through
June 1985. This committee will continue to work on the long - range
plan for the Gorge and monitor the results of the recommendations
1 accepted by the City .
Changes to the Six Mile Creek Master Plan or Map should be reviewed
by the Overseer Committee prior to imp ] ementi3tion - by the Board of Public
Works .
69 CIRCLE GREENWAY . The City ' s Circle Greenway should continue to
maintain trails and the Wildflower Preserve within the Gorge and should
work closely with the Department of Public Works in these matters .
It will explore and open new trails in accordance with the Master Plan
or Map . It will provide certain educational services .
CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AREA DESIGNATION . The designation of the Six
7 Mile Creek as a Critical Environmental Area ( CEA ) pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act ( SEAR ) would serve the best
interests of the City of Ithaca . ,
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a . The Planning and Development Committee should begin
j consideration of CEA designation for the section of
t Six Mile Creek from Aurora Street to the . City limits .
b . The Planning and Development Committee should initiate
' discussion with the Town of Ithaca Town Board concerning the
possibility and, the specifics of CEA designation for the
Town of Ithaca section of Six Mile Creek .
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80 CONSERVATIO14 ZONING .
a . Specific boundaries are recommended to form a Conservation
Zone within City limits that would further enhance existinn
zoning by creating new construction guidelines .
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b . The Planning . and Development Committee should initiate
discussion with the Town of Ithaca Town Board concerning the
development of guidelines for a Conservation Zone for the Town
fof Ithaca section of Six Mile Creek .
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1 Summary % Of Recorrrnendations
9 , MAINTENANCE
a . All DPW maintenance and construction activities in the
E Six Mile Creek area should be carried out in an
environmentally sensitive manner with proper . Department
of Environmental Conservation permits , ' with 'appropriate
Town of Ithaca environmental review , and consistent with
!r the City ' s water supply needs .
b . Regular training of City personnel in environmentally
sensitive stream woodland work techniques , and long - range erosion
control measures should be developed in cooperation with
the DEC .
i 10 . SIX MILE CREEL; MASTER PLAN OR MAP . The City should budget for and
adopt a Piaster Plan or Map for Six Mile Creek which includes all
present and approved future roads , trails , cle.aredareas , and structures
r to be maintained or created . `
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11 . EDUCATION . The City , acting through the Six Mile Creek Study COmMittee ,
should widely publicize , by late April ; the new policies and rules for
r public use of Six Mile Creek Gorge ,
I Circle Greenway should be given the task of overseeing the educational
t uses of the Gorge .
i . 120 ALTERNATIVE SWIMMING AREAS . In order to relieve pressure for natural
swimmingin the Gorge , the City should study swimming possibilities at
Stewart Park , Beebe Lake and other places .
. 13 . PROPERTY . ACQUISITION . The City should consider acquisition of
certain
properties - now privately owned ( or the development rights thereto ) ,
j within the Gorge or along its rim , in order to create a buffer zone
I of more consistent width . The City should_ also explore the feasibili -ty
of developing a joint recreational corridor , together with the Town of
Ithaca , along the south bank of the Gorge .
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144 SIGNAGE . The City should direct the DPW in consultation with the SMCSC
to provide adequate and attractive signage to alert the public to the
' rules and regulations covering trails and hazards to the Gorge .
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No . 7 - CEA Designation . (Town )
No . 8 - Conservation Zoning . (Town) Clearly in the Town .
No . 9 - Maintenance . ( Town) Fuzzy area . If in the Town , like
dredging , the Town would want to get involved .
No . 10 - Master Plan . (Joint)
No . 11 - Education . (Joint)
No . 12 - Alternative Swimming Areas . (Joint) Depends on where .
No . 13 - Property Acquisition . (Joint) Depends on where .
No . 14 - Signage . (City) Clearly Cities prerogative if it wants
signs .
Town Planner Peter Lovi stated that he had talked with a
representative of DEC . DEC feels the Town should be lead agency
• but there is no clear funding approval that pulls it into the Town .
If the proposed Zoning Ordinance had been passed , it would have to
be reviewed by the Planning Board . He went on to suggest that the
P-1 Zones be adopted in the interm and then finish the review of
the remainder of the Zoning Ordinance later . Then the Ccomissioner
would know we had adopted the Zoning Ordinance , this would
strengthen our hand with DEC rather than point to the Master Plan
which takes joint cooperation . He again said he would reccmrend
that the work in the P- 1 zone be subject to site plan review .
Supervisor Desch asked if the Six Mile Creek Study Group had access
to our Zoning Ordinance ?
Town Planner Lovi responded yes , they have been in several times
and have several copies .
Supervisor Desch questioned the Town Planner if he wished to have
only the interm zone adopted ?
The Town Planner responded , he would prefer we adopt the whole
zoning ordinance .
Councilwoman Raffensperger questioned why the lead agency status
for the Town was not asserted earlier by the Town Representatives .
She went on to say that clearly , if there is a conservation area ,
it is in the Town of Ithaca . She said it was clear that the Town
had an administrative function .
Town Engineer Fabbroni questioned the need for Item 1 and 13 . He
stated that it seems better to leave them out .
Supervisor Desch responded that they were put in now so they
wouldn ' t become and issue later . Supervisor Desch asked if anyone
had a problem with the determination of any of the items ?
Councilman Cramer questioned Item # 6 , Circle Greenway .
Town Planner Lovi responded they are saying an extension of Circle
Greenway trails in the Town . Circle Greenway is acting as an agent
for the City of Ithaca .
Councilwoman Raffensperger reminded the Board that Circle Greenway
® is not a City camdttee .
Town Planner Lovi stated that he recommends the Town be designated
also in Item # 6 .
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked why the Town was so unhappy with
the recce mendation ?
Supervisor Desch responded , the unwillingness on the City ' s part to
become involved in the Town ' s problems on Items 1 and 2 .
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Town Planner Lovi reported that in the meetings already held , the
City has not taken into consideration the Town ' s concerns . There
has never been a reference in the minutes to the Town ' s
Representatives concerns .
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that she has had an interest in
the area for quite some time . If the Town ' s Representatives were
having this much problem then the Representatives should have come
to the Board and not waited until now to have a confrontation with
the City , at this point . The minutes never indicated . there was a
problem .
Mr . Lovi responded that the Town ' s Representatives realized that
® this was a City Committee and the City can make its own
recommendations .
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that it looks like we are now
playing got you .
Supervisor Desch remarked that the City is overstating the problem
that the Town wants lead agency status .
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that she went to the public
hearing and heard the Chairperson say this is what we are going to
do and when . She went on to say that she did not hear Peter Lovi
or Montgomery May speak up for the Town .
Supervisor Desch said the question is , how strong do you feel about
the breakdown proposed in the Memorandum of Understanding .
Councilman Cramer stated that the Town must have concern with
public access , swimming and conservation zones . These areas are
Town concerns and the Town must be lead agent . There has been no
real contact with the Town to date .
Councilwoman Raffensperger responded that this was not a fair
statement , there has been plenty of contact .
Supervisor Desch noted that it was hard to determine when lead
agency starts . Today may be the last day .
Councilman Kugler stated that he agreed with Councilwoman
Raffensperger . Our representatives have not told the City how the
Town feels . Therefore , we ( the Board) must let the City know what
our representatives failed to inform the City .
Supervisor Desch suggested that perhaps No . 1 and 2 could be joint .
Mr . Lovi responded , can ' t do that , only one agency can be lead
agency .
Supervisor Desch suggested that a group consisting of the Town and
City representatives could be lead agency .
Mr . Lovi responded , no .
® Supervisor Desch asked why the City couldn ' t be lead agency on No .
1 and 2 for the City and the Town on No . 1 and 2 for Town property?
Mr . Lovi responded that this would not be acceptable to the City .
The Supervisor went on to say that the intent of the letter to the
Mayor was to state that the Town has a primary interest in the
items marked with an X for the Town and the Town desired to be lead
agency .
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Councilwoman Raffensperger questioned the Town Supervisor , its No .
1 and 2 that keeps you from approving the remainder , isn ' t it ?
Supervisor Desch responded yes . The Planning Board wanted to be
lead agent on all items .
Councilman Bartholf asked what the timetable was .
Town Planner Lovi responded , as soon as possible , they want to
start marking trails .
Councilman Cramer asked if any part of the Water Quality Review Act
might prohibit any of the activities ?
® Town Planner Lovi responded that the Water Quality Review Act only
prohibits trespassing on water .
Councilwoman Raffensperger questioned the designation of the Town
on No . 9 - Maintenance .
Supervisor Desch responded that when dredging materials has been
left for a long period of time , it could result in a major dredging
operation that would be a concern to the Town in so far as disposal
were concerned .
Town Planner Lovi remarked that as a provision of the City ' s
license for hydropower , they must have an affirmative recreation
action in conjunction with the hydropower . The Town sees a problem
with the City ' s proposed hydropower plant in Six Mile Creek , the
area should be fenced .
Councilwoman Raffensperger remarked that the Town had not passed a
resolution on hydropower , which would have given us rights .
LOCAL ADVISORY BOARD OF REVIEW
RESOLUTION N0 , 90
Motion by Supervisor Desch ; seconded by Councilman Cramer ,
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby appoints
Councilwoman Gloria Howell and Councilman Robert Bartholf to serve
on the Local Advisory Board of Assessment Review for the Town of
Ithaca on June 7 , 1984 from 3 : 00 P . M. , to 6 : 00 P . M .
( Desch , Kugler , Raffensperger , Cramer , McPeak, Howell and Bartholf
voting Aye . Nays - none) .
ADJOURNNIEIVT
The meeting was duly adjourned .
Clerk
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