HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB Minutes 1983-08-30 TOWN OF ITHACA
SPECIAL BOARD MEETING
August 30 , 1983
At a Special Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca , Tompkins
County , New York , held at the Town Offices at 126 East Seneca Street ,
Ithaca , New York , at 12 : 00 noon , on the 30th day of August , 1983 ,
there were :
PRESENT : Noel Desch , Supervisor
® George Kugler , Councilman
Shirley Raffensperger , Councilwoman
Marc Cramer , Councilman
® Henry McPeak , Councilman
Dooley Kiefer , Councilwoman
David Jennings , Councilman
ALSO PRESENT : Lawrence Fabbroni , Town Engineer
Dan Peterson , 110 Dey Street
Kevin Grossman , American Community
Cablevision
Representatives of the Media :
Bruce Ryan , WHCU
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Supervisor led the assemblage in the Pledge of Allegiance .
LETTER OF CREDIT TO COMMONLAND
Supervisor Desch reported that all Board members have a copy of the
most recent proposed draft agreement between HOUSECRAFT BUILDERS ,
INC . , Jerold Weisburd , and the Town of Ithaca . The agreement has to
do with the Town accepting a letter of credit in the amount of $ 30 , 000
for work to be done by the developer on two streets , namely Abbey Road
and Penny Lane , The Town would like the roads to go through a winter
of settling before the Town accepts them . The agreement sets forth a
list of work to be completed and adds up to $ 301000 . The Supervisor
went on to say that the proposed agreement is a standard form that we
have used in the past . However , this agreement provides more
protection for the Town than the agreements with Ivar Jonson and
Willis Hilker . The Supervisor went on to say that he was asking for
® Board authorization for the Supervisor to execute the final agreement ,
subject to Town Attorney review .
® Councilman Cramer asked about collection costs ?
Supervisor Desch responded that the Town Attorney had covered this
problem .
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked if this were not just for the
developer ' s convenience ?
Town Engineer Fabbroni answered no ; because of continuing
construction , if we accept the road now , it may be damaged within a
couple of months . He stated that both he and the Highway
Superintendent would rather not see the road completed this fall , to
the point were it would be turned over to the Town . He stated that
they would both rather see the road go through the settling process of
a winter .
Cc> :: : : . . ' ;:roman Kiefer asked how the $ 30 , 000 figure was aT rived at ?
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Town Engineer Fabbroni responded , $ 8 , 500 for the road ; $ 500 for check
dams ; $ 2 , 000 for seeding ; $ 2 , 500 for paving entrance ( Slaterville
Road ) ; $ 300 for as - built survey maps ; $ 200 for concrete paver walks ;
$ 500 for boardwalk across waterway ( footbridge ) ; $ 500 for trash bin
screen , $ 500 for light post and wiring ; $ 1 , 000 for white pines and new
shade trees , $ 5 , 000 for completion of sewage lift station ; $ 1 , 000 for
check dam , headwall and endwalls ; $ 800 for grading backslopes ,
sideslopes and ditches ; $ 2 , 000 for building terraces ; $ 1 , 700 for
building mounds and plantings and $ 3 , 000 for driveways and parking .
He went on to say that in fact , some of the improvements are already
® in the process of completion . He noted that this amount more than
covers us .
® Councilman Jennings asked if the sewer lift station is for runoff ?
Town Engineer Fabbroni responded no . , the lift station is for public
sewers . Mr . Weisburd is expecting two pumps to be delivered very
soon .
RESOLUTION NO . 120
Motion by Supervisor Desch , seconded by Councilman McPeak ,
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby authorize
the Supervisor to execute a suitable agreement to protect the Town in
the amount of $ 30 , 000 with HOUSECRAFT BUILDERS , INC . , Jerold Weisburd ,
for the completion of the necessary work plus Abbey Lane and Penny
Lane , subject to Town Attorney review .
( Desch , Kugler , Raffensperger , Cramer , McPeak , Kiefer and Jennings
voting Aye . Nays - none ) .
ACCEPTANCE OF EIS ON BURNS ROAD PROJECT
Supervisor . Desch asked Town Engineer Fabbroni to walk through the
document .
Town Engineer Fabbroni stated that the substantive changes are in
answer to comments on the project . He went on to say that Bill Mobbs ,
Tompkins County Commissioner of Public Works , is generally in
agreement with the report ; however , under the heading of " Beneficial
Impacts " it is premature , in Mr . Mobb ' s opinion , to declare that the
new bridge will have more clearance above the creek bed than the
existing one since the new bridge has not yet been designed . Mr .
Fabbroni agrees .
The Town Engineer noted that the second item Mr . Mobbs objected to was
, under the heading " Mitigation Measures " . Mr . Mobbs did not agree with
directing the Town highway crews to use sand instead of salt on the
® approaches to the new bridge and on the surface of the bridge itself .
Mr . Mobbs stated that it was not apparent from the preceeding
statement of adverse impacts what impact a policy such as this would
be designed to mitigate ; in addition , he felt it was unlikely that the
hoped - for benefits would outweigh the negative impact on highway
safety and the additional costs of implementing such a policy . Mr .
Fabbroni reported that there was a typo which said the alternate way
was to use sand . He went on to say that he had talked to Town
Planner , Peter Lovi who then removed mitigation but not mitigation
measure . Mr . Fabbroni said it is not practical to have a pile of sand
by the bridge .
Mr . Fabbroni went on to say that a letter had been received from the
Six Mile Creek Study Committee which proposed an alternate plan
because they felt the proposed realignment was too close to the
reservoir . The alternate plan proposed by the Six Mile Creek Study
t: rt? WaS Urtiler clwav from the reservoir , just west of the
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existing road ; however , there were two crossings of Six Mile Creek ,
the route proposed crossed questionable soil and went almost totally
into mature wood lands . Town staff re - drew the alternate with
necessary corrections for 40 MPH operating speed ; it added 50o to the
length of the project . Their proposal was deemed as a unsuitable
alternative .
The Town Engineer went on to say that the upper dam and the reservoir
will not be visible from the proposed road . Also , the soil in the
area makes access to the area difficult . From April through October
the foliage screens the view , the City can continue to control access
with a gate . He went onto say that the question of the area being an
archaeology site had been raised . Mr . Fabbroni stated that there was
no reason to believe the area contained any archaeology site ; however ,
if encountered the Town would cease work and bring in persons skilled
in such assessment .
Mr . Fabbroni then continued with the request of the Six Mile Creek
Study Committee that more information be supplied on accident data .
He stated that the accident data for four years had been added to the
report , _ both the existing bridge and the Jnarrow crossings . The
wild life listing as been enlarged and the phasing and timing of the .,. ,:
project was clarified .
Mr . Fabboni also noted a letter received from NYSDEC stating that they
had reviewed the EIS , and feel that the project will not have a
significant effect on natural resources , provided that the mitigation
measures discussed in the EIS are carefully followed .
Councilwoman Kiefer asked the Town Engineer if he had a map with him
showing the present road with the outline of the waters edge of the
main reservoir as it was originally built , plus showing the reservoir
as it is now ?
Town Engineer Fabbroni responded that he had no map that showed the
original outline of the dam .
Supervisor Desch questioned , do you think the reservoir was bigger ?
Councilwoman Kiefer responded that in the EIS it states that the
original reservoir was close to the edge of the existing road .
Mr . Fabbroni noted that a part of the reservoir area was shortly
silted up . The best we can ascertain is that from 1911 to around
1925 , there may have been water almost to Burns Road ,
Councilwoman Kiefer stated that she had mentioned her concerns to the
Town Engineer . She went on to say that she had a general feeling that
reservoirs and watersheds have a protected status in this state . She
went on to say that she was concerned the City might have to actually
take affirmative action to abandon the reservoir . Mrs . Kie € er went on
to say that she was uncomfortable in acting on something that could
® have legal complications , and without such affirmative City action , we
are leaving ourselves open .
Supervisor Desch responded that the City did not respond in the
allowed comment time . He went on to say that he did not feel the City
or anybody else could prove the water was ever close to the Burns
Road . He noted that impoundment areas cannot be increased without
Town approval but that any decrease has alredy been accomplished by
the City placement of dredged silt between present Burns Road and the
Present reservoir .
Councilwoman Kiefer responded that the City Department of Public Works
certainly had taken such ad hoc actions in the years , but that is not
the same thing as official Common Council action .
Supervisor Desch noted that the Town intends to included in the
reaIJ- 9nment. agreement wording that will clearly authorize the road
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Councilwoman Kiefer noted that Common Council has never looked into
the problem ; that the proposed realignment could eliminate the City
from ever restoring the reservoir to its original capacity .
Supervisor Desch stated again that we came through the comment period
and they have not commented on the matter .
Councilwoman Kiefer responded , but they might want to do it in the
future , when the right - of -way action is finally brought to them .
Common Council might realize that by foregoing their option of
restoring the reservoir to its original contours , they are eliminating
a future choice of expanded capacity , with might leave then no choice
but to look to Bolton Point ,
Town Engineer Fabbroni explained that the design of the road or
modifications will not eliminate anything the City might want to do in
the future .
Supervisor Desch remarked , there is no way anybody would want to put a
road under water .
Councilman Jennings noted that the City has repeatedly filled the area
with silt .
Toren Engineer Fabbroni added that the cost of dredging would be so
enormous that other options for a City water supply would present more
real alternatives .
Councilwoman Kiefer re - stated that she was concerned with the
reservoir boundaries , this needs to be settled with Common Council ,
not the Board of Public Works . Common Council has not even considered
the proposed land swap , and transfer of title for right - of -way is
subject to Common Council action .
Supervisor Desch responded that the two attorneys will prepare a title
transfer .
Councilwoman Kiefer remarked that the Six Mile Creek Study Committee
reports to the Board of Public Works and not Common Council ,
Town Engineer Fabbroni reported that he had walked the area with
several of the City officials , including Dan Hoffman who has never
been bashful about telling the City his concerns .
Councilwoman Kiefer asked if the Town was legally able to perform work
on land that the Town does not have title for ?
Town Engineer Fabbroni responded that the Town intends to get a letter
® of intent signed . He went on to say that the Board of Public Works
was presented with the details and were asked for their comments . The
Board of Public Works will do what ever is needed , then pass it onto
® Common Council , all in accordance with their Charter ,
say that the letter of intent will allow the Town to doH what never is
needed to be done this fall , until the transfer of deeds is completed .
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that there was a conflict on page 4
and 16 . She stated that there was a need for assurance that the
intersection with Burns Road and Slaterville Road will be improved in
conjunction with the Burns Road project .
Town Engineer Fabbroni responded that the intent of the EIS was to
insure the improvement of the intersection , however , the landowners
have not been contacted yet .
Councilwoman Raffensperger again stated that it was important that the
intersections be improved with the Burns Road project .
r "- sor Desch added , also intersection at Coddington Road ,
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Councilwoman Raffensperger ' remarked that in describing the connecting
road the EIS sounds like there is a parking lot on each end of Burns
Road . She went on to say that if traffic is increased on Burns Road
it will be increased on other connecting roads , and this should be
acknowledged .
Councilwoman Kiefer again stated that she was concerned with the City
taking action to abandon the land around the reservoir , only too
discover later that they need to increase the size of the reservoir
because of water consumption ; she believed the EIS , in its impacts
section , should include the removal of the possibility of restoring
® the reservoir to its original boundaries as one of the impacts .
Councilman Jennings responded that if the City had any concerns
® regarding their water supply they were given sufficient time to
respond to these concerns . The City can always dredge out their dams .
Councilman Jennings remarked that the Town cannot start any action
without the letter of intent .
Councilwoman Kiefer asked who would issue the letter of intent , Common
Council ?
Supervisor Desch responded that who issues the Letter of Intent is for
the City to decide . He went on to say that it was inappropriate for
the EIS to solve legal problems .
Councilman Jennings stated that the EIS says we have a legal right to
go into an area and environmentally change it and he did not feel it
was appropriate for the Town to get into legalities as far as the EIS
was concerned .
Councilman Kugler stated that he agreeded with Councilman Jennings and
that the Town should accept the EIS .
RESOLUTION NO . 121
Motion by Councilman Kugler ; seconded by Councilman Jennings ,
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby accepts the
Final Environmental Impact Statement on the Burns Road Realignment
project as re ared - -
P P , pursuant to the New York State Env Vi'rr-o-
nmental
Quality Review Act and Local Law # 3 - 1980 .
Councilwoman Raffensperger stated that she assumed the next step is to
contact the City .
Councilman Jennings remarked , then we . could deal with any other
AUk problems .
( Desch , Kugler , Raffensperger , Cramer , McPeak and Jennings voting Aye .
Nays - Kiefer ) ,
EXTENSION OF PART - TIME EMPLOYEES
Town Engineer Fabbroni reported that during the summer , some of the
Summer Youth employment positions were lost . It was decided not to
refill the positions . He went on to say that the Summer Youth Program
ended on August 19th and that they would like to extend a few of the
best people , namely three people to work on landscaping , one person to
work in the office plus one person for Mike Ocello ' s surveying crew .
Councilman Jennings questioned if this would change our liability on
unemployment insurance because of number of hours or duration of
employment ?
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Town Engineer Fabbroni responded that it probably could except that
four of the people being extended will be going back to school and the
remaining person has a job .
Supervisor Desch remarked , your question Councilman Jennings is what
is the likelihood of these people applying for unemployment insurance ?
Councilman Jennings responded , that is right .
Town Engineer Fabbroni responded that the Town ' s exposure was minimal ,
in fact you could say the exposure is none .
Supervisor Desch questioned when did these people start work ?
Mr . Fabbroni responded July 12th .
Councilman Jennings questioned if that was not 13 weeks ?
Town Engineer Fabbroni answered , that is right , they need to work 20
weeks to collect unemployment insurance . However , they could go to
work for someone else and then get laid off .
RESOLUTION NO , 122
Motion by Supervisor Desch , seconded by Councilwoman Raffensperger ,
WHEREAS , the Town of Ithaca has received an SBA grant to plant
landscape materials at Town park sites and Town water tank sites , and
WHEREAS , all work must be completed by September 30 , 1983 , and
WHEREAS , surveying work cannot continue effectively without one
assistant to the instrument man ,
NOW THEREFORE BE I ^1 RESOLVED , that the following temporary positions
be funded and extended as follows :
1 . Through September 30 , up to 40 hours per week
a . 1 SYEP - Park Landscaping Construction at
$ 3 . 75 per hour
b . 1 Part - time employee - Park Landscaping Contruction
at $ 5 . 00 per hour
2 . Through September 12 , up to 35 hours per week
a . . 1 SYEP - Town Hall Renovation at $ 3 . 75 per hour
b . 1 SYEP - water and 2 sewer at $ 3 . 75 per hour
c . 1 SYEP - Park Landscaping Construction at $ 3 . 75 per
® hour .
All positions extended retroactive to August 22 .
( Desch , Kugler , Raffensperger , Cramer , McPeak , Kiefer and Jennings
voting Aye . Nays - none ) .
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was duly adjourned .
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