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TOWN OF ITHACA
TOWN BOARD MEETING
December 10 , 1979 - 5 : 30 p . m .
At a Regular Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca ,
Tompkins County. , New York , held on the 10th day of December , 1979 ,
at 5 : 30 p . m . , at - the Town Hall at 126 East Seneca Street , Ithaca ,
New York , there were
PRESENT : Noel Desch , Supervisor
Andrew W . McElwee , Councilman
® Victor Del Rosso , Councilman
Robert N . Powers , Councilman
Catherine Valentino , Councilwoman
® Shirley Raffensperger , Councilwoman
George Kugler , Councilman
ALSO PRESENT : Lawrence P . Fabbroni , Town Engineer
James V . Buyoucos , Town Attorney
Robert Parkin , Highway Superintendent
Barbara Restaino , Planner
Henry Aron , Planning Board Chairman
Lewis Cartee , Building Inspector
Jean H . Swartwood , Administrative Supervisor
Beverly Livesay , County Representative
Allen S . Becker
Marc A . Cramer , 300 Cayuga Heights Road
Janice Crombie , 509 Five Mile Drive
Helen DeGraff , 122 West Haven Road
Stan Green , 720 Elm Street Extension
Martin Greenberg , 315 N . Geneva Street
Eva Hoffmann , 4 Sugarbush Lane
Roald Hoffmann , 4 Sugarbush Lane
Gerald Hubbell , Bostwick Road
Lois D . King , 181 West Haven Road
David L . Klein , 131 West Haven Road
Dr . Arthur P . Kraut , Elm Street Extension
Noemi Kraut , Elm Street Extension
Sam Leonardo , 569 . E1m Street
Louis Mobbs , 619 Five Mile Drive
Carol W . Ridall , 170 Seven Mile Drive
James A . Ridall , 170 Seven Mile Drive
Hilda Sine , 214 Culver Road
Norma Stevenson , 115 West Haven Road
Alice Terlouw , 603 Five Mile Drive
® Peter R . Hoover , Paleontological Research
Institution
® Representatives of the Media :
Matt Leone , Ithaca Journal
Kimberly Adams , WTKO
Syd Waldman , WHCU Radio
- PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Supervisor led the assemblage in the Pledge of Allegiance .
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Councilwoman Raffensperger ; seconded by Councilman McElwee ,
RESOLUTION NO * 234 , 1979
RESOLVED , that the Minutes of September 17 , and October 9 , 1979
be approved - ' as presented by the Town Clerk .
( McElwee , Valentino , Kugler , Raffensperger , and Desch voting Aye .
Nays - None )
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SUPERVISOR ' S REPORT
Sales Tax - Heating Fuels
Supervisor Desch reported that he was disappointed that the
County Board of Representatives voted against removing half the sales
tax on heating fuels . He said there was some indication that the
County Board voted in the negative because removal of the sales tax
would discourage energy conservation . The Supervisor said he found
that position ludicrous , because fuel prices are already so high
that there is enough incentive to find a way to burn something other
than fuel oil . He equated the County Board ' s action with the oil
suppliers taking advantage of windfall profits because of increases
that OPEC brought about . He did not feel it fair that revenue is
generated on an item so highly inflated in price . He said he did •
not think it is justifiable budgeting policy on the County ' s part .
Supervisor Desch said that an opportunity has been missed here for
government to recognize the real inequities which result from a
sales tax on an item that consumers have so much difficulty in
controlling use , that consumers have gone about as far as they can
in curtailing usage . He stated also that persons on fixed income
are hit the hardest , in spite of other state programs to help them .
Supervisor Desch recommended that citizens put some pressure
on government to reverse this decision in the year ahead .
Mrs . Livesay noted that the removal of the sales tax would
have benefitted the average homeowner about $ 20 . 00 . Supervisor Desch
said that it is the principle that counts ; that it means the County
is collecting additional revenue as a result of inflation . Mrs .
Livesay said that would be true if the County were taking the money
and squandering it . She said what counts is what is paid for heat
as against the average value of property . She said if the heat
bill runs higher than average in a house evaluated below the average
there is a gain and vice versa ( except for commercial property ) .
Multi - County Solid Waste Project
Supervisor Desch reported that Cornell University has ex -
pressed some concern about continuing to pursue the Multi - County
Solid Waste Project . He hoped that view would not be misconstrued
because there are a number of valid concerns raised by Cornell , but
they are not problems which cannot be resolved . He said he hoped
the County would continue to look at alternatives to the present
method of solid waste disposal . A new way of disposal must be found .
He said that Cornell University is not charged for landfill costs
whereas virtually all other users are . A more environmentally
responsible solution must be found , he said , or the community must
be prepared to pay the price . He said he did not consider the project •
" dead " at this time . Supervisor Desch expanded his remarks , saying
he did not interpret Cornell University ' s recent statements to mean
that the project is dead . Cornell ' s valid concerns need to be
addressed before the studies proceed : He said he hoped the County •
Planning Staff will make every effort to find environmentally
acceptable solutions .
Sewer System Upgrading
Supervisor Desch reported that a public information meeting
on this $ 28 , 000 , 000 project will be held tomorrow ( December 11 ) at
City Hall . One of five or six major treatment alternatives will be
recommended as the most environmentally appropriate and cost effec -
tive . The presentation will be quite detailed , he said . He said
" If you have a concern about your pocketbook , you should attend
that meeting ; it is open to the public . " He said the favored alterna -
tive would involve abandoning , basically , the present facilities
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south of Rt . 13 , most of which are rather antiquated , except for
the sludge drying building which is only 12 years old . He said
the plan from that standpoint is sensible because it will make the
operation a lot more efficient in not having the highway in between
every major segment of the treatment process .
Agriculture District # 8
Supervisor Desch reported that the County Board of Repre -
sentatives recently passed a resolution establishing Agriculture
District # 8 . After the fact , the Town of Ithaca has learned that
a 40 -acre parcel on South Hill , owned by Willis D . Hilker , was in -
cluded in that district . He said he told Mr . Hilker he would be
discussing this matter with the Town Board tonight and would oppose
® the parcel ' s inclusion in the district and the process by which it
was included at the last meeting of the Board of Representatives .
He said he was not saying that that particular parcel should not
be included in an agriculture district but not in an isolated way
as it came about . Half of the 40 acres are tillable ; the other
half is a ravine . There is a large area along the abandoned rail -
road north of Coddington Road which is excellent farmland owned by
several property owners .
Mrs . Restaino described the parcel with a map of Agricul -
ture District # 8 ( the cross - hatched area ) . She noted that it is
not contiguous to the rest of the district . Councilman McElwee
said he thought it had to be contiguous and , therefore , could not
be included .
Supervisor Desch said the timing is bothersome . He said
the original petitioners for the Agriculture District # 8 did not
involve any interest within the Town of Ithaca , but Mr . Hilker has
been interested in including his land in an agriculture district
for some time and he asked the County planners to piggy - back the
parcel in this district .
Mrs . Restaino described the parcel in terms of location
with respect to Township lines . Supervisor Desch said the land
in Agriculture District # 6 is not shown on that map . The neigh -
boring farmers were not notified of the interest and the inclusion
of the Hilker parcel .
Mr . Aron wondered why that particular parcel of 40 acres
was singled out . Supervisor Desch said that from a planning point
of view it does not make sense to analyze parcels on that kind of
limited ad hoc basis . Implications for the whole area should be
considered . He said from what he knew about the property owners
on that side of Coddington Road , there would be a lot of interest .
It is below what would probably be a water and sewer service area .
® He said the County Health Department is going to be reluctant to
give health permits on those areas which overlook the reservoir .
® Councilman McElwee asked if it was not illegal to include
it . Supervisor Desch said that it . is , procedurally . Councilman
McElwee said it should be contiguous . Councilwoman Raffensperger
said all of them in Tompkins County have been contiguous , but in
other counties there have been approvals of parcels which are not
contiguous . The process is deficient under the law .
RESOLUTION NO . 235 , 1979
Motion by Supervisor Desch ; seconded by Councilwoman Raffensperger ,
RESOLVED , that the Supervisor of the Town of Ithaca is hereby
authorized to write to the Commissioner of the Department of
Environmental Conservation to request that the 40 - acre parcel of
land in the Town of Ithaca , owned by Willis D . Hilker on South Hill
( Tax Map Parcel No . 48 - 1 - 14 . 3 ) , proposed for inclusion in Agriculture
District # 8 , be removed .
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( Valentino , McElwee , Kugler , Del Rosso , Powers , Raffensperger ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
Mrs . Livesay asked the Board whether they would like to
have her bring this matter before the County Board of Representa -
tives . The Board said they would . . Mrs . Livesay said she had
raised all the questions of the .Town Board at the County meeting
and more , and had asked for a postponement until today ' s meeting .
She said she tried to persuande the Board of Representatives to
hold off until a follow- up meeting to make a decision , but they
would only hold off until the end of the meeting of Representatives
held earlier in the day . She felt they still had an opportunity
to amend things since the next meeting was technically an adjourn -
ment of today ' s meeting .
Mr . Fabbroni said he had told Frank Liguori that this •
parvel of land had been discussed as agricultural land in the
past insofar as whether it was viable agricultural land . From
the Planning Board point of view , they said yes , it is reasonable
to zone this land to agriculture . He said that happened a year and
a half ago and we still have not changed the map as part of the
overall zoning map change .
Mrs . Livesay said that , technically , she felt she might
still be able to have the County Board rescind its resolution .
She said that procedurally it is necessary to have done this at
today ' s meeting as adjourned . She said she would check with Mr .
Robert I . Williamson , County Attorney , to see whether the parcel
could be removed from the Agriculture District # 8 .
TOWN ENGINEER ' S REPORT
Cold Storage Building
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the poles are set in place .
Consideration of the materials bid will be taken up tonight so
that the materials may be ordered . Mr . Fabbroni reviewed again
the decision to build a pole barn type structure of wood with a
conventional shingle roof as opposed to a metal building .
Supervisor Desch inquired what is included in the materials
bid . Mr . Fabbroni said roof trusses , plywood , shingles , nails - -
a package easy to identify without consideration of minor items
of small monetary value . Councilman Del Rosso asked if the bids
are firm and fixed and not subject to alterations . He noted that
two of the bids are very close . Mr . Fabbroni said he would have
to recommend the low bid because of the unit price figures , and
the need for any additional materials would not upset the relative
order of the bidders .
RESOLUTION N0 . 2361r 1979 •
Motion by Councilman Del Rosso ; seconded by Councilman McElwee ,
WHEREAS , on December 31 1979 , bids were received for •
the purchase of building materials for a storage facility for
the Town of Ithaca , New York ; and
WHEREAS , the Town Board has carefully considered the Town
Engineer ' s report on these bids ,
NOW , THEREFORE , BE IT RESOLVED , that award be made of an
order to purchase to the following : 89 Lumber & Supply Co . , Inc . ,
412 Taughannock Boulevard , Ithaca , New York , 14850 , for a total
bid amount of $ 5 , 111 . 25 .
( McElwee , Kugler , Valentino , Powers , Raffensperqer , Del Rosso ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
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Concord Place
Mr . Fabbroni noted that the Town had in the past accepted
a letter of credit with regard to Concord Place . The . road has now
been completed to Town specifications . Mr . Fabbroni recommended
that the Town Board adopt a resolution releasing the letter of
credit to Decahedron , Inc . in the name of Otto Schoenfeld .
RESOLUTION NO . 2371r 1979
Motion by Councilman Kugler , seconded by Councilman Powers ,
® RESOLVED , that based upon the report of the Town Engineer that
Concord Place has been completed to Town specifications , this Town
Board hereby authorizes the release of letter of credit of Deca -
hedron , Inc . ( in the name of Otto Schoenfeld ) heretofore submitted
to the Town of Ithaca .
( McElwee , Valentino , Raffensperger , Del Rosso , Powers , Kugler ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
Northeast Transit
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the Town has been billed for
deficits of $ 1 , 299 in September and $ 1 , 335 . 15 in October , and
$ 1 , 115 . 00 in November . He explained the intricacies of the billing
for these deficits . These billings are part of the warrants dated
December 10 , which are expected to be approved at this meeting .
Crosstown Road
Mr . Fabbroni reported he was . invited to a , meeting with
Cornell University representatives , County officials , and several
representatives of Forest Home to discuss in a general way the
proposed corridor for the cross - town road . Mrs . Livesay was at
the meeting and Mr . Tillapaugh represented the County policy -making
group . The discussion was most immediately focused on the corridor
between Rt . 366 and Rt . 13 , in the vicinity of where the B - 1 alterna -
tive would tie into Rt . 13 . As part of the discussion , a corridor
from Rt . 366 to Pine Tree Road was considered . He said Cornell made
it clear that that alternative was second on their list of priorities ;
that their consultant will prepare further recommendations at which
time there will be further discussion . He said it is a major step
forward to see that Cornell University had hired a consultant .
Supervisor Desch asked Mrs . Livesay if she considered it
a significant step forward . She said it is a positive step in that
Cornell is interested in having people think about it and that the
involved communities will have a role in it while Cornell is thinking
® about . it . She said too often in the past communities have learned
that Cornell Universitylis planning something other than they thought .
Supervisor Desch said he would make it stronger than that - - that
Cornell University has been unwilling to accept its responsibility
® on the cross - town road .
Sewer Extensions
Mr . Fabbroni reported that it is expected that work will
be done on this next week ( Valley View Road , West Haven Road , and
Slaterville Road . The Town has requested a stake - out this week .
Stone Quarry Road
Mr . Fabbroni reported they are still waiting for delivery
of pressure reducing valves . The installation of these valves and
vaults is all that remains to be done except for clean - up which will
be done in the spring . He said there are not a lot of change orders
associated with the job ; that roughly 75 % of the money has been
approved for payment to this point .
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Supervisor Desch remarked that the contractor has done an
excellent job of " buttoning up " the roadway for the winter .
Five - Area Sewer Extensions
Mr . Fabbroni reported that all but $ 500 has been released
on this project , which has been withheld for re - seeding . There are
also three or four easement situations to be resolved in the way
of landscaping and beautification .
Trumansburg Road , Northview Road , and Troy Road Tanks
As soon as the County Health Department engineer has .
approved the contracts for this work , the Town will be able to
go to bid , following also review by the Town Engineer and the Town
Attorney . The work on these tanks will be coordinated with the •
Bolton Point operation . The City of Ithaca will also be advised .
Lisa Lane Subdivision
Mr . Fabbroni said he has requested that no roadwork pro -
ceed in this development until the sub - surface conditions are con -
ducive to building a good road . There is a mud situation at this
time .. Work should be delayed until the road dries out or freezes .
He said there may be some inquiries as to why the road is not being
built at this time .
ROUTE 13 MEETING
Mrs . . Livesay reported that the Route 13 meeting had a
surprise outcome . Most of the people tend not to favor the B - 1
corridor . However , another meeting will be held in January ( 1980 )
SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL
Mrs . Livesay said the County Board of Representatives does
not yet have the engineering report on this matter . She said the
volume of what is being disposed of should be looked into and the
composition of it ; and what alternatives there are . She said the
Town Board should give some thought to that .
LIGHTING IN EASTWOOD COMMONS
Mrs . Livesay reported she still has calls from people
on Honness Lane about a light at what was to have been an entrance
in that development . She said the Town Board ought to consider
those appeals and if , in fact , it does not light an intersection •
whether there is a need to have a light there . Supervisor Desch
said the Town Engineer will look into this and make a recommenda -
tion to the Board . •
HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT ' S REPORT
Mr . Parkin reported that because of the favorable weather
the department has been working on the shoulders of rr7own _r:oaLds . They
are staking fire hydrants and working on the bikeways with the bull -
dozer . Work is being done on the cold storage building . The depart -
ment has been installing some culverts and cleaning ditches , hauling
salt and sand , and preparing the equipment for the snow to come .
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REPORT OF PLANNING BOARD CHAIRMAN .
Mr . Aron , Chairman of the Planning Board , summarized his
report . His complete written report follows :
" 1 . The Planning Board met in joint session with the Town Board
and Zoning Boardlof Appeals on November 20 , 1979 , to discuss
the revisions proposed for the zoning ordinance . Each of the
various Board members has those Minutes in hand .
" 2 . The Planning Board met on December 4 , 1979 , with seven members
present , Mrs . Bronfenbrenner being absent , in Work Session ,
at 7 : 00 p . m . until 8 : 10 p . m . , and in regular session commencing
at 8 : 10 p . m .
® a . The Planning Board had before it the proposed revisions
for the sign ordinance and proceeded approximately half
way through the document . This discussion will be con -
tinued in January , 1980 .
b . Since over one hour had been spent on the sign ordinance
amendment , the discussion of the Planning Board procedures ,
which were also before the Planning Board members , was post -
poned until January , 1980 .
c . A Public Hearing to consider the Final Subdivision Approval
for the Lagrand E . Chase subdivision off Ridgecrest Road
had been scheduled , but was cancelled after Mr . T . G . Miller
appeared before the Board to inform the Board that certain
economic constraints in relation to the sewering of the pro -
ject had arisen . Mr . Chase and Mr . Miller will advise the
Secretary when the Hearing may be rescheduled and readvertised .
d . The Planning Board Minutes of November 6 , 1979 , were not
approved and will undergo further scrutiny by the Board in
January 1980 . There appeared to be several problems with
the text submitted by Ms . Perry .
e . A Public Hearing to consider Final Subdivision Approval
for 3 - lot Subdivision , 1698 Slaterville Road , as proposed
by Mr . Charles Foote was held .
i . By Resolution moved by Mr . Mazza , seconded by Mr . Aron ,
and a unanimous vote in the affirmative , the Planning
Board granted Final Subdivision Approval for 3 - lot
Subdivision , 1698 Slaterville Road , Town of Ithaca Tax
Parcel No . 6 - 56 - 3 - 14 , as proposed by Mr . Charles Foote ,
with the condition that the deeds conveyed with these lots
are subject to and granted for the rights of way over the
® existing driveway .
ii . In addition , the following Resolution , moved by Mr .
Mazza and seconded by Mr . Stanton , and a unanimous
vote in . the affirmative , was adopted by the Planning
Board .
WHEREAS , the Planning Board approved Sectiod Two ,,
Eastern � Neights Subdivision , June 11 , 1968 , with
no apparent provision for access . to the Charles
Foote property south of such subdivision , Block 5 ,
Lots 2 through 4 , plus Park ; and
WHEREAS , over the last eleven ( 11 ) years no other
access along more suitable grades has been provided
through the lands of Frandsen and Blanpied ( formerly
Eipper ) to the west to said Foote property ; and
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WHEREAS , the property of Charles Foote within the
Town of Dryden to the east of his property here in
question has no present designated access through
adjacent lands in the Town of Dryden ; and
WHEREAS , the Town of Ithaca was given a portion of
Section Two , Eastern Heights Subdivision including
Block 5 , Lots 2 through 4 as part for a park and part
for general purposes , and
WHEREAS , access from Slaterville Road within the
Foote property both in the Town of Ithaca and the
Town of Dryden is undesirable because of topography ,
NOW , THEREFORE , BE IT RESOLVED , that the Planning •
Board of the Town of Ithaca recommend and hereby
does recommend to the Town Board that the Official
Map of the Town of Ithaca be amended to include a
proposed access from the Frandsen property through
the property taken for general purposes to the Foote
property until such time that a more preferred and
accessible access through the present Blanpied
property or adjacent lands in the Town of Dryden
is officially identified , and further
RESOLVED , that any disposition of property .by Mr .
Foote in the Town of Dryden will keep open access
through that land to his Town of Ithaca parcel with
any failure to adhere to this stipulation invalidat -
ing any guarantee of access by the Town of Ithaca , and
FURTHER RESOLVED , that Mr . Foote convey to the Town
of Ithaca an equal amount of acreage of land taken
to provide him with this access from his land im-
mediately south of the present Town of Ithaca land ,
and
FURTHER RESOLVED , that this resolution be recorded
by Mr . Foote in the Tompkins County Clerk ' s Office
with sufficient identification that it will be in -
cluded in any abstract of title compiled on any of
the Foote property in the Town of Ithaca or the Town
of Dryden .
f . An application for sign permit was reviewed once again
by the Planning Board for the Paleontological Research
Institution on Trumansburg Road . The proposed signage
is to be a two - faced sign , back - to - back , same copy on
both sides , 24 sq . ft . , more or less , no lights , black
on white located 52 feet from the center line of Route 96 •
and set back 19 feet from the edge of the right of way .
By unanimous vote upon motion of Mrs . Grigorov , seconded
by Mr . Baker , the Planning Board resolved that it be their
recommendation to the Town Board to approve such sign .
g . Mr . Evan Monkemeyer appeared before the Board , although
not on the agenda , and informally discussed his 5 - lot
subdivision on East King Road which presently has been
granted preliminary subdivision approval . His plans for
the sewer extension , as drawn by T . G . Miller were looked
at and discussed . The Planning Board agreed that Mr .
Fabbroni would go over the engineering drawings with Mr .
Monkemeyer in order that he may submit them to the Health
Department prior to the scheduling of a Public Hearing to
consider Final Subdivision Approval .
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h . Reports were heard by the Planning Board from the Town
Planner , the Town Building Inspector , the Town Engineer
and a written report from Mrs . Raffesnperger , the County
Planning Board representative , was read and reviewed .
i . Chairman Aron spoke to the Planning Board members with
respect to the year ' s activities of the Board .
Mr . Aron thanked the Board most warmly for his wonderful
year with the Planning Board as its Chairman , and he thanked
the Board members individually for their excellent work and
® devotion to duty .
Mr . Aron transmitted to the Board the very kind words
that had been expressed by Supervisor Desch at the last
Town Board meeting about the Planning Board , its members ,
and its work . The members were most appreciative of the
Supervisor ' s expression of support and look forward to
receiving the Minutes .
Mr . Aron continued and told the Planning Board members
that not only have they done a good job in 1979 , the
details of which they are most familiar with , but also
it could not have been done without the key personnel
who have spent hours and hours on the subjects that have
come before the Planning Board . He stated that it has
been his pleasure of_ working during the daytime with Mr .
Fabbroni who has spent evenings , mornings , daytimes , work -
ing for the Planning Board and for the public . Mr . Aron
expressed his thanks and the Board ' s thanks to Mr . Fabbroni
for his tremendous work and output .
Mr . Aron asked that the record also show that Mrs . Restaino
has also done a very fine job and is doing a very fine job
for the Planning Department .
Mr . Aron continued and said that as to Mrs . Fuller who is
the right hand stay of this organization , if he may call
it an organization , she has straightened out his English
and has spent numerous hours , nights , evenings , early morn -
ing hours at 7 : 30 a . m . you can find her here , and he cannot
help but be admirable to her .
Mr . Aron stated that he admires all the good , key personnel
with the Town of Ithaca and the Town Board who has employed
such personnel with such dedication .
Mr . Aron stated that the taxpayers should be aware of and
grateful for the Town staff and should know that in terms
® of dollar signs they are getting their money ' s worth .
Mr . Aron again expressed his gratitude to the Planning Board
members for which they were most appreciative .
Mr . Aron asked that the test of his statement be a part of
his report to the Town Board on December 10 , 1979 .
j . By unanimous vote , voiced with pleasure , upon Motion .of
Mr . May , seconded by Mr . Baker , the Planning Board resolved
they would like to recommend that Mr . Aron be appointed as
Chairman of the Planning Board for the year 1980 , and that
the Town Board so appoint Mr . Aron as Planning Board Chair -
man , 1980 .
k . By unanimous vote , voiced with equal pleasure , upon Motion
of Mr . Mazza , seconded by Mr . Aron , the Planning Board re -
solved to . recommend to the Town Board that Mr . May be appointed
as Vice - Chairman of the Planning Board for the year 1980
113 . Thank you , ladies and gentlemen . "
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Mr . Aron pointed out that this was his last meeting as
Chairman of the Planning Board , that he had taken the opportunity
to thank the Board warmly for his wonderful year , and he thanked
the Board members individually for their excellent work and devotion
to duty .
APPOINTMENTS
RESOLUTION NO . 238 , 1979
Motion by Councilman McElwee , seconded by Councilwoman Valentino , •
RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby re - appoints Mr . Edward Austin
to the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Ithaca for a term com-
mencing January 1 , 1980 and ending December 31 , 1984 . •
( Kugler , Raffensperger , Del Rosso , Powers , Valentino , McElwee ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
RESOLUTION NO . 239 , 1979
Motion by Councilwoman Valentino ; seconded by Councilman Powers ,
RESOLVED , that this. Town Board hereby re - appoints Mr . Henry Aron
as Chairman of the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca for the
year 1980 .
( Raffensperger , Del Rosso , Powers , Valentino , Kugler , McElwee ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
RESOLUTION NO . 240 , 1979
Motion by Councilman McElwee , seconded by Councilwoman Valentino ,
RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby appoints Mr . Montgomery May
as Vice - Chairman of the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca for
the year 1980 .
( Kugler , Del Rosso , Raffensperger , Powers , Valentino , McElwee ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
RESOLUTION NO . 241 , 1979
Motion by Councilman Powers ; seconded by Supervisor Desch ,
RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby re - appoints Mr . Peter Francese
as Chairman of the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Ithaca
for the year 1980 .
( Kugler , Valentino , Raffensperger , Del Rosso , McElwee , Powers , - and
Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
RESOLUTION NO . 242 , 1979
Motion by Councilman Powers , seconded by Councilman McElwee ,
RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby re - appoints Mr . Jack Hewett
as Vice - Chairman of the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Ithaca
for the year 1980 .
( Kugler , Valentino , Raffensperger , Del Rosso , Powers , McElwee ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
PALEONTOLOGICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTION - SIGN
Mr . Fabbroni reported that the Paleontological Research
Institution originally applied for a 25 square foot sign , two - sided
each each side at 90 degrees to the passing traffic . When this
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proposal was brought to the Planning Board they felt it was not in
the spirit of the Sign Ordinance . Mr . Hoover has now presented
a more traditional two - sided sign which will be placed at an angle
to the road . The Planning Board has received this proposal with
favor . Therefore , the Board acted as follows :
Motion by Councilman Powers , seconded by Councilman McElwee ,
RESOLUTION NO . 243 , 1979
RESOLVED , that the application of the Paleontological Research.
Institution at 1259 Trumansburg Road , Ithaca , New York , for a two -
sided sign , back to back , with identical copy on both sides , about
24 feet square , non - illuminated , black on white , located 52 feet from
the center of Rt . 96 , is hereby approved by this Town Board .
® ( Kugler , Del Rosso , Raffensperger , Valentino , McElwee , Powers , and
Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
BUILDING INSPECTOR ' S REPORT
Mr . Cartee reported that in the month of November 1978 the
Town issued a total of 10 building permits in the amount of $ 400 , 500 ,
total fees received $ 195 . 00 ; in November of 1979 a total of 12 build -
ing permits were issued at a total construction cost of $ 394 , 900 ;
total fees received $ 207 . 50 .
Mr . Fabbroni noted that many zoning violations have been
investigated and some at this time have been resolved and completed .
Others are pending or an acceptable response has been received from
notified parties . The junk problem has finally been resolved at 119
Northview Road . The site has been cleared of all junk . Only a
vehicle which can be considered a legitimate antique remains . The
Supervisor congratulated the staff on this accomplishment .
Councilwoman Valentino inquired how many building violations
are being investigated at this time . Mr . Fabbroni said there are
about twenty and that Mr . Cartee may be contacted for details .
There is the possibility of litigation in some of these cases .
Councilwoman Valentino said it is difficult for Board members to
keep track of what cases are completed and which cases are still
pending . Supervisor Desch said that it is a part of Mr . Cartee ' s
charge and duty to keep the Board informed in this regard . Super -
visor Desch did point out that there is the question of how these
cases are reported without possibly compromising a case which later
may be in litigation . Mr . Fabbroni noted also that there is the
problem that in many cases the people are unknowingly in violation .
He felt if their initial response is to come into compliance , there
is no real need to air the case publicly . Supervisor Desch said he
® thought Councilwoman Valentino was referring to the " hard - core " cases .
PARK WORKERS - CETA - 1980
Mrs . Restaino reported that the Town has submitted a CETA
grant request for park workers for next year and should hear from
the CETA agency shortly . This is renewal of manual workers .
DEPUTY TOWN CLERKS - APPOINTMENTS
Supervisor Desch said it is . appropriate at this time to
appoint three Deputy Town Clerks for the year 1980 in order to be
in position on a day to day basis to officially document regular
items of business . He recommended , therefore , that the Board con -
sider re - appointing Mrs . Cynthia Schoffner , Mrs . Nancy Fuller , and
Mrs . Cathy Noyes as Deputy Town Clerks for 1980.
Town Board Minutes - 12 December 10 , 1979
RESOLUTION NO . 244 , 1979
Motion by Supervisor Desch ; seconded by Councilman Powers ,
RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby re - appoints Mrs . Nancy Fuller ,
Mrs . Cynthia Schoffner , and Mrs . Cathy Noyes as Deputy Town Clerks
for the year 1980 .
( Kugler , McElwee , Valentino , Raffensperger , Del Rosso , Powers. ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - nbne )
APPOINTMENT OF TOWN CLERK - RESOLUTION NO . 245 , 1979 .
Motion by Supervisor Desch ; seconded by Councilman Kugler ,
RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby appoints Mrs . Jean H . Swartwood •
as Town Clerk for the Town of Ithaca beginning January 1 , 1980 .
( Del Rosso , McElwee , Powers , Raffensperger , Valentino ; Kugler
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
APPOINTMENT OF RECEIVER OF TAXES
Supervisor Desch noted that the Town has budgeted for the
Receiver of Taxes as a separate entity and in order to provide con -
tinuity for at least one year in a job which is very time consuming
January through March , he recommended that Mr . Edward L . Bergen be
appointed as Receiver of Taxes for the year 1980 .
Motion by Supervisor Desch ; seconded by Councilman McElwee ,
RESOLUTION N0 . 246 , 1979
RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby appoints Mr . Edward L . Bergen
as Receiver of Taxes for the year 1980 for the mown of Ithaca .
( Kugler , Del Rosso , Valentino , Raffensperger , Powers , McElwee ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
HOLIDAY AND VACATION SCHEDULE
Supervisor Desch stated he had estimated it costs about
$ 500 a year in lost productivity for each holiday . He recommended
that the Friday after Thanksgiving , however , be added to the holiday
list since most offices in Ithaca are closed on that day . The High -
way Department , the Highway Superintendent , and the Town Engineer
have recommended that the Board consider the possibility of increas -
ing the vacation accrued for employees who work for the Town longer •
than twenty years . Supervisor Desch suggested that the Board might
consider adding one day per year over twenty years beyond the four
weeks now authorized to a maximum of five days , or , a total of five
weeks for those employees who have served for twenty - five years or
more .
Mr . Aron asked if vacation days are cumulative , that is ,
if they are not taken in one year , can they be added to the next
year ? The Supervisor said they could not accumulate . ( This might
be modified for an individual day here or there , but vacation time
is not generally cumulative . ) Nor is any remuneration paid in lieu
of vacation time not taken the Supervisor noted in answer to a
question by Mr . Aron .
After some discussion of the suggestions and recommendations
above , the Board acted as follows :
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Town Board Minutes - 13 - December 10 , 1979
RESOLUTIONd NO . 247 , 1979
Motion by Supervisor Desch ; seconded by Councilman Powers ,
. RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby authorizes a holiday for
the Town of Ithaca employees on the Friday following Thanksgiving
each year .
( Kugler , Del Rosso , McElwee , Raffensperger , - Valentino , Powers ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
® RESOLUTION N0 . 248 , 1979
Motion by Councilwoman Valentino ; seconded by Supervisor Desch ,
RESOLVED , that employees of the Town of Ithaca having between
® fifteen and twenty years of service will receive one day per year
after the fifteenth year for each year of service , one day per year
been accrued beginning with the sixteenth year to a maximum of
twenty - five days .
( Kugler , Del Rosso , McElwee , Raffensperger , Powers , Valentino
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
PUBLIC HEARING
RULES AND REGULATIONS - BOLTON POINT
Proof of posting and publication of notice of public
hearing in the matter of adopting rules and regulations for the
Bolton Point water system having been presented by the Town Clerk ,
the Supervisor opened the hearing .
Copies of the Rules and Regulations were distributed as
desired .
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked if there were any sub -
stantial changes in the document since the earlier discussions .
Supervisor Desch said there were not . The present document in -
cludes all the individual policies and decisions which have been
made by the Southern Cayuga Lake Intermunicipal Water Commission
over the past two years .
The Supervisor then opened the hearing to comment from
the Board and the public .
Councilman McElwee and Councilwoman Valentino raised
certain questions with respect to selection of words in the docu-
ment and certain technical questions were raised by Councilman
McElwee , in particular . These questions were considered by the
Board and certain minor revisions were made . Councilwoman Raffens -
perger was particularly concerned over the reference on page 10 to
® discontinuance of service . She wondered if the Commission has con -
sidered some type of double notification so that service is not
discontinued for non - payment without ample notification . Super -
visor Desch said the policy has been to send out a series of three
® letters before discontinuance . By and large , the policy is very
lenient and careful consideration is given before a discontinuance
of service . Supervisor Desch felt the document does not have to be
changed in this regard . Councilman McElwee referring to page 21 ,
paragraph 2 , of the document was concerned that the Commission does
not " get into the business of thawing out services . " Supervisor
y Desch said that the purpose of the document is to minimize the
extent to which the Commission is involved because it places the
responsibility in the proper place for accomplishing the thawing
of the service . He said , however , that there are certain cases ,
unfortunately , where part of the service belongs to the Commission
or the Town , and that must be taken into account , and thawing out
must be done by the Commission.
Town Board Minutes - 14 - December 10 , 1979
After the considerable discussion , and no. -. other persons
appearing to be heard on this matter , the Supervisor closed the
hearing and the Board acted as follows :
RESOLUTION NO . 247 . , 1979
Motion by Councilman McElwee ; seconded by Councilman Del Rosso ,
RESOLVED , that this Town Board , after public hearing duly conducted
this day , hereby adopts Rules and Regulations of the Southern Cayuga
Lake Intermunicipal Water Commission with respect to water service
and related matters in the Bolton Point service area , for the Town •
of Ithaca , as appended to the master copy of these minutes .
( Kugler , Del Rosso , Raffensperger , Valentino , McElwee , Powers , •
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A LOCAL
LAW ESTABLISHING AND REGULATING BIKEWAYS
IN THE TOWN OF ITHACA
Proof of posting and publication of notice of public hear -
ing to consider the adoption of a local law establishing and regulat -
ing the use of bikeways in the Town of Ithaca having been presented
by the Town Clerk , Supervisor Desch opened the hearing .
The Supervisor read the proposed local law in full .
The discussion that followed developed the fact that
there are questions with regard to lighting the bikeways , hours
of use , whether mopeds could be used , whether the paths could be
used by skiers , snowshoeing , and the like . Questions also arose
with regard to how the bikeways would be policed .
In view of these questions , the Supervisor adjourned the
hearing to December 31 for further input .
EASTWOOD COMMONS LIGHTING
Mr . Fabbroni reported the need for an additional light
in the Eastwood Commons development , as one enters the drive of
the complex . The intersection in question ' is the east -west direc -
tion of Strawberry Hill Road on the north side . Mr . Fabbroni said
he was not certain that a light in this location is one the Town
would pay for or the developer would pay for . Mr . Fabbroni recom-
mended that the Board authorize such a light and consider at a later
date who will actually pay for the additional light .
RESOLUTION NO . 248 , 1979
Motion by Supervisor Desch ; seconded by Councilman Powers , •
RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby authorizes the installation
of alight at the intersection of the north end of the east -west •
direction of Strawberry Hill Road in the Eastwood Commons develop -
ment .
( Kugler , Del Rosso , McElwee , Raffensperger , Valentino , Powers ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
TOWN OF ITHACA CONTRACT WITH
BUREAU OF OUTDOOR RECREATION -
CONSIDERATION OF GRANT FOR COY GLEN
Supervisor Desch stated that this item has to do with
the contract between the Town of Ithaca and the Bureau of Outdoor
Recreation having to do with the preservation of Coy Glen . He
noted this is not a public hearing , but that the Town Board is
receptive to input on the matter because of its sensitivity , its
Town Board Minutes - 15 - December 10 , 1979
implications , and importance . Supervisor Desch requested that each
person who wished to speak should limit himself or herself to five
minutes and that questions submitted could be answered outside the
five minute limit . The Supervisor said he would not go into the
history of the project at this time since the Board and many others
present are aware of the pros and cons of the matter . He said there
is a great deal of uncertainty at this time as to what the end product
will be should the project go ahead . The Supervisor furnished a pro -
posed resolution and outlined the process to be followed should the
contract be executed . He said the proposed resolution specifically
affirms that it is the Town ' s position it will not pursue condemna -
tion to acquire any parcel in the project . He quoted from this sec -
tion of the resolution . It is stated that way , he said , because this
Town Board does not want to determine what a future Town Board might
® do . Should the contract be executed , he said , the funding agency
would be advised that it is not the . Board ' s intention to acquire
property by way of condemnation in order to implement the project .
Supervisor Desch explained that should the project require
any change on a particular property , for example for a ballfield or
trail , the plans for those improvements or changes to the property
would be developed prior to formal negotiations with the property
owner , and would take into account also any changes to adjacent
property . For example , if a property is adjacent to where a ballfield
might be located the property owner would have the right to know what
the land use would be .
Supervisor Desch , in answer to a question , said that the
application for funding was purposely left flexible , that is , that
changes could be made . , The application did not precisely pin down
where a trail , for example , would be , or a ballfield . He said it
is a natural process in % any capital improvement to go from the plan -
ning stage to preliminary detail design . He said he thought it
appropriate and necessary to develop those steps so that discussions
with property owners could be had on an open and detailed basis .
Supervisor Desch said , however , that active recreation areas are
are limited to the area on the Inlet side and passive recreation ,
including trails , is involved with the portion . on the Glen sides
that there is no confusion on that since it is spelled out rather
specifically . :The_ , Supervisor - said there.,:1+ h_as - . been discussion about .whether
the proposed resolution would be subject to a permissive referendum .
The Supervisor said he would defer to the Town Attorney who has re -
searched this matter in detail .
Town Attorney Buyoucos made the following statement :
" In December of 1975 , the Town Board adopted a Park Reserve
Fund in which funds were deposited from the General Fund . This was
a capital reserve fund for a type of improvement . The law does not
® require that the establishment of that fund be subject to a permis -
sive referendum , but the law request that any expenditures from that
fund shall be subject to a permissive referendum . The law does not
® require that any contract for the proposal be subject to a permis -
sive referendum . The law requires only that the expenditure of any
funds shall be subject to a permissive referendum . But you must be
careful even when you say that because not all funds expended from
the Park Reserve Fund are subject to a permissive referendum . Only
those funds which are expended for a specific purpose which comes
within the specific meaning of the statute , only a resolution for
the expenditure of those funds for a particular purpose is subject
.to a permissive referendum . For example , if lands are to be acquired
and if funds are to be expended for the purpose of acquiring land ,
the resolution authorizing those funds is subject to a permissive
referendum .
Town Board Minutes 16 - December 10 , 1979
" But if the Board decided to do some re - seeding or some
landscaping of a portion of public lands which they call parks ,
that resolution would not be subject to a permissive referendum .
The test is the following : If a municipality decides to make any
improvements and then decides to . issue bonds for such improvements ,
the length of the terms of the bonds must have some correlation to
the probable life use of the particular improvement . A sewer system .
is 40 years . Some other improvements are twenty years and twenty - five
years . Acquiring land for park purposes in some cases is twenty
years ; in others , fifteen years . So , if lands are going to be
acquired or money spent for acquiring lands for park purposes , the
resolution is subject to a permissive referendum . If the expendi -
ture of funds is going to be made for other than acquiring land , �.
it depends on the particular use and purpose , .and then we have to
look under the appropriate section of Local Finance Law , and then
action would be determined on the probable life use .of the project ; •
that would govern . In general , if bonds must be issued and those
are issued for a maturity of five years or less , a permissive
referendum is not necessary ; that is the law . "
Mr . Buyoucos was asked to explain what a permissive refer -
endum is .
He said , " There are two kinds of referenda - - permissive
and mandatory . A referendum , in general , is the following : A
proposition is submitted to the electorate of the Town . You begin
with that . The electors of the Town vote as they do in any election .
Only in this case they are voting on a proposition instead of voting
for persons . An example that comes to mind was the decision to
dissolve the special improvement districts in the Town of Ithaca .
But , if each proposition adopted by a Town Board or any municipal
board were to be submitted to a referendum , it would involve extreme
cost , unwieldiness , delay , and , ultimately , the impossibility of
conducting government on any grounds . So , over many years the
State of New York and every state in the Union has adopted this
theory of a permissive referendum . You have seen the words used
each year . A proposition is adopted and a resolution is adopted
and at the end the statement is made : ' The above resolution is
adopted subject to a permissive referendum . ' That means that the
following procedure must take place . Once a resolution is adopted ,
it must be posted and it must be published within 10 days from the
date of its adoption . That is Step 1 . Step 2 : within a 30 - day
period from the adoption of any resolution , that resolution , if it
is subject to a permissive referendum , can be final only after 30
days have elapsed following the adoption of the resolution ; that
is an absolute rule . However , if enough people are opposed to the
resolution or have a question about its adoption , then the third
step follows . Step 3 : within 30 days of the adoption of the resolu -
tion , if enough people file petitions with the Town Clerk stating
that they want a referendum , then the matter must be submitted to
the electorate . There must be at least 50 of the votes cast for
Governor in the preceding State election , but in a town of the
first class it must be not less than 100 persons .
" You would not have to make up your own petitions . The. •
petitions will be available and you will pick them up from the
Town Clerk and use them as you see fit . After that , there is
Step 4 : When is the election held ? Again , the Legislature never
does things the simple way . The election will be held on the date
of the biennial election of the Town if the petitions are filed not
more than 45 days nor less than 25 days from the date of the biennial
election . If the time sequence is different , it does not come within
that period , then within 40 days after the adoption of the resolution
if petitions have been filed within 30 days , the matter is submitted
to a special election .
" That ' s it . "
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Town Board Minutes - 17 - December 10 , . 1979
Supervisor Desch explained that the contract with the
funding agency stipulates that the funds from the Federal agency
are not made available in advance . They are on a reimbursement
basis . It means , assuming successful negotiations with a property
owner or property owners , that the Town would front - end the cost
and be reimbursed subsequently . He said , also , that the contract
permits either party to terminate it if there has been no progress
evident over a period of time , depending on the circumstances , the
period of time being indefinite . He said there is within the initial
contract a two - year period for . acquisition of property to take place .
There are , however , extension provisions in the grant award wherein
® the process could take as long as five years , which is not an un -
reasonable amount of time for negotiations .
The Supervisor asked for comments from the floor . At
this time there were none .
The Supervisor now read from a letter received from Mr .
John B . Babcock . ( Copy of letter is attached to the master copy
of these minutes . )
Supervisor Desch said that assuming the proposed resolution
for the acceptance of the grant is moved and seconded , before the
vote or at the time of the vote each Board member should state his
reasons for the vote . He said he felt this to be important so that
the constituents know where each Board member stands on the subject .
At this time Mrs . Kraut asked if she could read a statement .
The Supervisor said she should do so . Her statement follows :
" When landowners and neighborhood residents first learned
of the Town ' s intent to acquire Coy Glen they were understand -
ably concerned . The concerns were many and , as evidenced by
the recent election results , still exist today . Since that
time ( March 1978 ) there have been numerous letters to the
Ithaca Journal , letters to Town Board members , phone calls ,
attendance at Town Board meetings , self - organized meetings ,
small discussions with Town Board members , petitions circulated ,
etc .
" I will outline those concerns again even though they
have been repeated many times by private citizens , present
and future Town Board members and past Town_ Board members .
The concerns included :
1 . The plans as outlined in the application for
matching funds will serve to damage rather than
protect the Glen .
2 . The Glen is now adequately protected by its
" critical area " designation .
3 . The accumulated known and unknown costs will
® be a severe burden on the taxpayers of the Town .
4 . We simply do not need another park in this area
of the Town .
5 . The inevitable change in the character of the
neighborhood .
6 . The protection of private property .
" Although it is true that condemnation is one of the
issues , it is mostly an issue for those landowners unwilling to
sell . It does not appear to be the main issue with the many people
who either reside in the neighborhood , or have joined them in sig -
nificantly supporting their many positions .
Town Board Minutes - 18 - December 10 , 1979
" Any attempt by Town Board members to simplify the con -
cerns as . ..only. . . involving condemnation of land is erroneous and
an evasion 'of the true facts at hand . In fact , it should be
noted that the stated motivating force for this project , the
gravel mining , was on a piece of land that would only become
available through condemnation proceedings ( see Ithaca Journal
4 / 28 / 78 ) . The proposed park project would then , in fact , not
even affect the mining operations .
" It seems obvious to us that the Town has at its disposal
sufficient tools to ensure preservation of Coy Glen . It seems
obvious to the majority of the present and new Town Board members
that this project as conceived was a severe mistake . Not only •
has it caused severe unhappiness but residents in the Town ask
themselves why they have had to expend such enormous physical
and emotional energy merely to preserve the status quo . We have
developed a deep mistrust in some of our elected officials .
" At every step the cost to the taxpayer is mounting . These
costs cannot be justified since this program has met with such
overwhelming opposition . People who have nothing to lose and
everything to gain from our losses have no right in influencing
government policy . If the wishes of the great majority +apposing
this project are not respected , then taxpayers everywhere in the
Town stand to lose their most important rights . If it happens
here and now it can and will happen again who knows where or
when .
" We want to make perfectly clear that as long as any trends
of government intervention exist such as BOR funds , no matter
how they might be used , we will not discuss with the Town coopera -
tive measures to ensure continuing preservation of this area .
This should not be misinterpreted . We remain committed to the
preservation of Coy Glen .
" We are gratified that many Town Board members recognize
the validity of our arguments ; their sensitivities to our
position has been most encouraging . However , there are still --
a few who appear to be guided by forces not related to the
preservation of Coy Glen or , it appears , any other rational
motives . At every turn they have attempted to avoid the real
issues by creating a smoke screen of alternate plans and demands ,
some of which are not even related to the original issues . As
each plan meets with community opposition they press on , continu -
ing their self - serving attempts at a legacy to the point of cor -
ruption .
" We do not want a park !
" We do not want encroachment on our neighborhood !
" We do not want to pay for unwanted , unnecessary items !
" We do not want an alternate plan !
" We do not want the BOR funds !
" The only resolutions we will tolerate are to once and for
all close the books on this ill - conceived project and turn back
the matching funds ; and to transfer funds out of the Park Fund
into a Capital Reserve Fund more worthy of attention .
" Let us try to go beyond the mistrust and anger . A town
divided against its elected officials cannot constructively
progress . In case there is any question about the continuing
commitment of the landowners who signed the original landowners
petition submitted June 3 , 1978, I hereby present to the Town
Board the following petition dated December 4 , 19790
Town Board Minutes - 19 - December 10 , 1979
" Let us have a new start in the new year ! "
( The petition referred to by Mrs . Kraut is attached to
the master copy of these minutes . )
Councilwoman Raffensperger asked Mrs . Kraut if her state -
ment purported to be a statement by the landowners or her statement .
Mrs . Kraut said she would have to call the landowners to see who
the statement represents . Councilwoman Raffensperger asked again
if the statement was made on Mrs . Kraut ' s behalf or acting as a
representative of a group . Mrs . Kraut said Mrs . Raffensperger
® was free to - question each person .
Mr . Terlouw stated , " Every group has to have a spokesman .
We appreciate Mrs . Kraut ' s efforts . I would back everything she
has made in that statement . "
Hilda Sine , James Ridall , Janice Crombie , and Helen
DeGraff supported Mr . Terlouw ' s statement .
Mr . Gerald Hubble said , " Everyone on West Hill agrees
with her . "
Mr . Walter J . Schwan , 231 Coy Glen Road , made the follow-
ing statement ( in summary ) ft
" I felt I should say something because I don ' t own any
land in the Glen . As a former Supervisor of the Town of
Ithaca , I am responsible for getting this whole thing off the ground ,
and , therefore , think I have a right to make my feelings known . As
you know , when we started back in 1973 and 1974 , the situation was
different than it is now . Rumsey was mining gravel on the north
side of the Glen . They were building a conveyor . Knowing full
well that the bank on the north side was running out they started
to use the north side for a sorting , washing , and crushing opera -
tion . The Board leaned on them at that point to build sufficient
dams and ponds to keep the muddy waters from washing down . The
Town Board agreed with me at that time , I think , that we had a
problem . We were trying to correct that problem . We felt an
ecological area was being damaged . We felt strip mining was not
proper and did not justify the money made . However , much has
changed in the intervening years . Rumsey Ithaca no longer has
a concrete ready mix business . All the equipment has been dis -
mantled and trucked away . The DEC is now in the picture in terms
of permits and with respect to gravel extraction . I have climbed
the Glen three times this fall . Nature has taken its course . There
is no more muddy water running down the hill . Rumsey Ithaca actually
tried to reforest the upper part . In short , we started out with a
sensible idea - - to stop what was being done to the Glen . Nature
and a lot of other thirigs ; have more or less achieved our objective . "
Supervisor Desch noted that the gravel has not run out
and that problems in that regard could still arise . Mr . Schwan
said there is the DEC and the gravel ordinance . There is an area
now which belongs to Cornell University which will be forever wild .
He said he thought the landowners are now doing an excellent job
of preserving the Glen . He said there is no worry about subdivisions
since the Town does have a Planning Board and there is also the
Health Department . Mr . Schwan said he felt the problem had to
be considered in today ' s context . He recommended that the Town
forget the grant - - that the job is done . He said it was not the
original intention to build hiking trails and parking lots . He
said in conclusion , " Nobody in their right mind would try to pre -
serve something by p:uilding hiking trails and parking lots . It is
time to say the situation has changed and forget it . Stop beating
a dead horse . " ( Applause )
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Town Board Minutes - 20 - December 10 , 1979
Councilman . Del Rosso said , " First , I would like to say
that Walt Schwan has not lost his flair for commanding attention
and doing his homework . I think he did a good job of bringing
the caronology up to date . As I sit here I accept the fact that
this Glen is worthy of preservation and at the time the way the
conditions were , it was the appropriate thing to do . Today , new
information has been presented . It is easy to defend the decision
made a year or two ago and by the same token it takes quite a bit
of courage to sit here and say the mission has been accomplished
in a different way and so we don ' t have to take the next step .
I would strongly suggest that this grant be rejected and the
money turned back and decide what to do with the Park Fund . •
( Applause )
Supervisor Desch said he would like to see if the motion
can be moved and seconded and then further comments could be made . •
RESOLUTION NO . 249 , 1979
Motion by Supervisor Desch , seconded by Councilwoman Raffensperger ,
RESOLVED .
WHEREAS , the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca has developed
a Comprehensive Park and Open Space Plan , and
WHEREAS , the Comprehensive Park and Open Space Plan
identifies the preservation of the unique natural area of Coy
Glen as a priority consideration through acquisition of approxi -
mately 260 acres , and
WHEREAS , application was made to U . S . Heritage Conser -
vation and Recreation Service for matching funds in the amount of
$ 71 , 645 to proceed with the acquisition phase of the Plan , and
WHEREAS , the U . S . Heritage Conservation and Recreation
Service has awarded the Town of Ithaca a grant in the amount requested ,
and
WHEREAS , the Town of Ithaca has available matching funds
of $ 71 , 645 in the Park and Open Space Reserve Fund ;
NOW , THEREFORE , BE IT RESOLVED :
That the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca hereby authorizes
the Town Supervisor to execute the contract with U . S . Heritage
Conservation and Recreation Service , thereby accepting the grant ,
subject to the following conditions .
a . The Town will undertake the development of plans for
the use of the lands to be acquired , and activities •
related to the use of the land , including both active
and passive use of the land . Such development and
plans will be in compliance with all applicable laws ,
rules and regulations as required by Section 4 of the
contract , including SEQR requirements as they relate
to the designation of certain Coy Glen lands as a
critical area .
b . Before any lands are acquired from a property owner ,
the plans for the development of the area will be
reviewed with such owner . It is the present intention
of the Town Board not to resort to condemnation to
acquire any lands or interests therein .
c . The Town reserves the right , if necessary , to apply for
a modification of the grant to provide for the acquisi -
tion of easements as an alternative to acquisition of
title .
December 4 , 1979
To the Town Board - Ithaca , New York
We , The undersigned , remain firm in our initial position that
our land is not for sale . We are unalterably opposed to any
encumbrances such as easements etc , and will not allow govern-
meet intervention of any kind .
We feel as strongly as ever that our land is best preserved
by private owners ' po
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Supervisor Desch then called for the vote .
Councilman McElwee voted NO . He said the Glen has existed
for its . intended use for approximately 75 years ; that it has been
declared a critical area . He said he felt that would protect the
Glen for what the people intend to use it . He said it is a critical
area that is fragile and that putting people in it would destroy it .
He said we have enough parks in the community , that he is not in favor
of the park across the Inlet or by the Inlet . He said he had talked
to the Trustees in the Village of Lansing and they have nothing but
headaches in maintenance .
® Councilwoman Valentino voted NO . She said she agreed with
Councilman Del Rosso and Mr . Schwan ; that , beyond that , it has been
made clear to the Board that the landowners will not cooperate in
® the continuation of this project and that would make any further
progress with it impossible . She said , " I think it is time to close
the discussion on Coy Glen . "
Councilman Del Rosso voted NO . ( See his comments above . )
Councilman Powers voted NO . ( See his statement at the
November 8 , 1979 meeting . )
Councilman Kugler voted YES . He said , " I would like to
see preservation . I am not in favor of development . I think a
project that has gone this far along deserves the opportunity to
go the cycle .. The fact that the contract is cancellable by either
or both parties provides safety valves along the way , as do per -
missive referendums . The recent change in the attitude of Cornell
University and the probability that they would be involved in the
management of such an area changes the picture . I am in favor of
completing the cycle with the idea that things may be cancelled and
there are referendums . "
Councilwoman Raffensperger voted YES . She read part of
a statement she had furnished to the Town Board . Her full state -
ment follows :
" In preparing to vote on the Coy Glen resolution tonight ,
I have . reviewed the long history of the project . It came to this
Town Board recommended by individuals , by several advisory groups - -
including the Town of Ithaca Planning Board , by the Parks and Open
Space Policy and Plan , and pursuant to actions of past Town Boards .
" At the time that a grant for acquisition funds was being
prepared , it became evident that there was opposition to the plan ,
either in whole or in part , and that there was also support for
the plan . Both groups stated as a common objective the preserva -
tion of Coy Glen .
" At that time and others , this Town Board publicly committed
itself to addressing the specific concerns voiced and trying to
® come up with satisfactory solutions . Since then , for example , a
parking area and trails were removed from the plan ; a commission
form of governance was researched , an access by permit only or super -
vised group suggested , a critical areas designation was seen as a
possible solution to future problems , although it did not address
the problem of the already mined areas ; various types of easements
were seen as alternatives to purchase ; an assurance that no con -
demnations are intended is being made , etc .
" This effort has been criticized - - not because it has
not been good enough , but because the effort was made at all . I
believe that we would have indeed deserved criticism if we had
taken the easy course and refused to give any consideration or
credence to one or another of these groups who expressed their
convictions - - both of whom we are supposed to represent .
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" Having proceeded with what I am convinced was .a necessary
and responsible attempt to resolve conflicting views , each of us
must decide if that effort was effective . I understand the dif -
fering answers to that question that Town Board members have given
and will give .
" As to wider public opinion , some want no compromise , some
view the possible compromises as insufficient to meet their objec -
tions , some are supportive , and some now see the compromises as so
extensive as to bring the public - - as opposed to private land
owner - - benefit into question .
" I an NOT sure this project is , at this time , possible .
But I have come to the opinion that present and potential problems
are severe enough , that the basic goal is of enough value , to make
the continuing effort worthwhile .
" I hope that resolutions to most of the disagreement' s lie
in some of the solutions proposed . Not until the Town Board states
its intention to proceed , outlines what it can do about reclama -
tion , etc . , and determines what each landowner is WILLING to do
as an individual will that really be known . At that time , and
preceding any expenditure of grant monies , an evaluation of the
costs and benefits of the package will have to be made . That cost
and benefit analysis must consider . the whole Town , for the present
and future , for I am sure no Board of this Town would have sup -
ported or embarked on this project solely for the benefit of a few
people , but did see a wider public interest as justifying this
effort and the expenditure of public funds . "
Supervisor Desch said , " I will vote YES , even though the
resolution will fail , because I am firmly convinced that time will
show that the opportunity we have lost will be one that we will
look back upon and regret . It is clear that the area where Coy
Glen is located is going to change . We have heard statements . by
the property owners that they are committing themselves to pre -
serve the Glen . I want that to be clearly stated on the record
because this Board continues to be committed to the preservation
of the Glen and will take whatever steps are necessary within the
power it has available to assure this preservation . I am hoping
I am wrong in saying we will regret losing this opportunity . We
have seen too many cases where this has happened after a long
and careful process and one in which , in this case , has just
begun . We have been talking about a BOR grant . However , to me ,
the project is worth doing irrespective of a grant . The cost ratio
would be higher but in my mind the resource of Coy Glen is worth
that commitment . "
The resolution failed .
LEHIGH VALLEY RIGHTS OF WAY
Supervisor Desch noted that in the resolution on this
matter in September , the Board agreed to offer $ 5 , 000 per mile
for the East Ithaca Lehigh Valley Railroad abandoned right of
way . The resolution at that time , however , did not state that
it was subject to a permissive referendum . Therefore , the resolu -
tion will have to be re - adopted at this time .
RESOLUTION NO . 255 , 1979
Motion by Councilman McElwee ; seconded by Councilwoman Raffensperger ,
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RESOLVED .
1 . That this Board hereby accepts the offer of the
Lehigh Valley Railroad to transfer to the Town of
Ithaca the portion of the East Ithaca Freeville
right of way in the Town of Ithaca consisting of
about 1 . 3 miles at a cost of $ 5 , 000 per mile .
2 . That the foregoing is subject to the owner furnish-
ing good and satisfactory title and all required
title documents .
® 3 . This resolution is subject to a permissive referendum .
® 4 . This resolution , as supplemented by paragragh 3 , above ,
confirms in all respects Resolution No . 188 , 1979 ,
adopted by the Town Board on September 17 , 19790
( Kugler , Powers , Del Rosso , Valentino , Raffensperger , McElwee ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
DECEMBER NEWSLETTER
The Board reviewed the proposed Newsletter and with
minor changes approved same .
BOLTON POINT WARRANTS
RESOLUTION NO . 256 , 1979
Motion by Supervisor Desch ; seconded by Councilman McElwee ,
RESOLVED , that this Town Board hereby , after review , and upon the
recommendation of the Southern Cayuga Lake Intermunicipal Water
Commission that they are in order for payment , approves the Bolton
Point warrants dated December 10 , 1979 , in the Operating Account ,
in the amount of $
( Kugler , Powers , Del Rosso , Valentino , Raffensperger , McElwee ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
TOWN OF ITHACA WARRANTS
RESOLUTION NO . 257 , 1979
Motion by Councilman McElwee ; seconded by Councilman Del Rosso ,
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca warrants dated December 10 , 1979
are hereby approved in the following amounts :
General Fund , Town Wide $ 45 , 938 . 06
General Fund , Outside Village . . . . . 39 , 168 . 26
Highway Fund 22 , 363 . 53
Water and Sewer Fund 44 , 246 . 83
Parks Fund 5 , 530 . 48
Lighting Districts 201 . 39
Capital Sewer Fund 41889 . 52
Federal Revenue Sharing 19 , 776 . 99
( Kugler , Del Rosso , Powers , Valentino , Raffensperger , McElwee ,
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Board ,
the meeting was duly adjourned .
Ed L . Bergen
Town Clerk