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TOWN OF ITHACA
ADJOURNED BOARD MEETING
April 5 , 1978 - 5 : 15 p . m .
At an Adjourned Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ithaca ,
Tompkins County , New York , held at the Town of Ithaca Offices at
126 East Seneca Street , Ithaca , New York , on the 5th day of April ,
1978 , at 5 : 15 p . m . , there were
PRESENT : Noel Desch , Supervisor
Andrew W . McElwee , Councilman
Victor Del Rosso , Councilman
Robert N . Powers , Councilman
Catherine Valentino , Councilwoman
Shirley Raffensperger , Councilwoman
Gust L . Freeman , Jr . , Councilman
ALSO PRESENT . Lawrence P . Fabbroni , Town Engineer/Building
Inspector
John C . Barney ( Buyoucos & Barney )
Nancy M . Fuller , Deputy Town Clerk
Beverly Livesay , County Representative
Willis Hilker , Developer
Representatives of the Media
AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT N0 . 6
Supervisor Desch stated that the purpose of the meeting
is to determine what action the Town Board wishes to take with
regard to the proposal that is now filed with the County Clerk
for Agricultural District No . 6 .
Supervisor Desch stated that there has been considerable
discussion of this proposal since the appearance of a legal notice
in the newspaper . The legal notice was the first knowledge the Town
had that such a district had been proposed . The Town has until
April 16 to file with the County Clerk alternate proposals or com-
ments regarding the original proposal as filed .
Supervisor Desch stated that last night the Town Planning
Board discussed the proposal at considerable length . The Town
Board does not at this time have the results of that discussion
but will have them shortly . Essentially the Planning Board reso -
lution is expected to endorse the concept of an Agricultural Dis -
trict within the Town of Ithaca provided it includes only viable
agricultural land which meets the criteria as established by the
law . The Planning Board will also include in the resolution the
possibility that agricultural land which had the potential to be
commercially viable agricultural land might be included in the
district .
Supervisor Desch reported that the Town Engineer has done a
quick visual survey to attempt to get information as to what might
be included in such a district as commercially viable agricultural
land . ( The results of this survey were presented via visual aids . )
The Supervisor said the Town needs to be concerned any time a pro -
posal is put forth which involves a large area of the Town . In
this case 28 % of the land area of the Town is involved . Supervisor
Desch said that it is the responsibility of the Board to assure the
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people of the Town that no proposal is set up which may conflict
with the health , welfare and orderly growth and desirability of
life in the Town . The Town must be concerned about how this pro -
posal will impact the orderly growth of the Town as a whole , and
not just West Hill .
Supervisor Desch hoped that the Board at this meeting
would take a position on the proposal and make a draft of such
proposal which might be adopted by the Board at its April 10 meet -
ing . This document , if adopted , would be filed with the County
Clerk .
Discussion continued at this time with respect to the
survey map prepared by the Town Engineer . Mr . Fabbroni said
the map presented showed for the most part viable agricultural
land . The district within the red lines includes , with few ex -
ceptions only viable agricultural land . All commercial , light
industrial , and residential areas which have been developed or are
likely to be considered for development in the near future have
been excluded from the " red line " proposal except for a small number
along Mecklenburg Road .
Supervisor Desch said there are potential problems pro-
viding certain services to those parcels which fall within an
agricultural district . Mr . Fabbroni said the Agricultural Dis -
trict Law provides individual farmers who are in a district the
opportunity to receive agricultural value assessment by filing
an agricultural commitment . If they change their use they are
subject to certain - penalties . He said that in his view in mar -
ginal areas there will be a burden on the landowner to do that .
During the discussion Planning Board notes on the Agricul -
tural District were read .
Councilman McElwee was not convinced that the people in -
volved or who may become involved in an agricultural district
understand what their limitations are and what participation may
mean to them . Supervisor Desch some farmers have expressed an
interest in being in an agricultural district . Whether they under -
stand what is involved is not clear . Councilman Freeman suggested
contacting people who might be in the district and have them ex -
press their feelings prior to April 16 ( the deadline for filing an
alternate proposal ) . He suggested inviting everyone who is actively
farming . Supervisor Desch said there would be some difficulty in
determining that .
Supervisor Desch said the Board must consider whether
services can be provided to the areas outlined in red , the way
the district is proposed . If not , then the boundaries as they are
laid out in the proposal must be uestioned . Supervisor Desch said
only those properties which have petitioned to be in an agricultural
district should be included ( recognizing a few exceptions ) and let
the burden of proof be on the County Planning Board or the farm
owners outside the area to express their desire to be included .
This should be done in a detailed way , rather than lumping them
all in .
Councilwoman Raffensperger during the discussion said the
important thing is to abide by the intent of the law . She sug -
gested taking the position that the Town is in favor of an agri -
cultural district , but not in favor of the district as outlined ,
in the " blue " area , i . e . the County Agriculture Committee proposal .
Supervisor Desch suggested this approach : that the Town recognizes
the desire of some farmers in the Town to have their lands included
in an agricultural districtf that the Town agrees with the concept
that viable commercial farming lands be included , but only after
the proposal involving those farmers has been reviewed in depth by
the County with the farmers . In such case , perhaps there mav_ be
some farmers who originally petitioned to be in the district who
will decide to come out once they have the facts on their responsi -
bility if their land is included in the district .
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After considerable discussion , Supervisor Desch asked
the Board what its pleasure was . The sense of the Board was
that the Town of Ithaca should endorse the creation of an agri -
cultural district , but that the proposal is inappropriate because
it includes considerable land which is not farmland - - land being
held for potential light industrial , commercial and residential ,
that the Town will work with the County to identify boundaries ,
but that the Town proposes alternate boundaries , that is , to move
the easterly line of the proposed district to make it co - terminus
with the -the Town of Ithaca/Town of Enfield line .
Motion by Councilman Del Rosso ; seconded by Councilman McElwee ,
RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca hereby endorses the creation
of an Agricultural District , including lands within the Town of
Ithaca , but finds the current proposal inappropriate because of
the inclusion of a substantial land area other than viable farm-
land , i . e . light industrial , commercial , and residential property .
FURTHER RESOLVED , that the Town of Ithaca will work with County
government in identifying appropriate boundaries , but in the
event it is not possible to identify those boundaries within the
time made available by the review process , the Town of Ithaca
hereby proposes a modification of the agricultural boundary of
the proposed Agricultural District No . 6 by moving the easterly
line of said proposed District to make it co - terminus with the
Town of Ithaca/Town of Enfield line .
( McElwee , Del Rosso , Valentino , Raffensperger , Powers , Freeman
and Desch voting Aye . Nays - none )
The Town will prepare a position paper and forward it
and this resolution to the County .
REPORT ON BIDS FOR THE FIVE -AREA SEWER PROJECT
Supervisor Desch reported that a contract will be signed
within the next two or three weeks . He noted that the quality of
the bid document was not changed but the approach to the unit price
was changed to clarify prices for the establishment of a budget
which will be financially sound and result in a high quality re -
sult . The project will be completed by approximately October 15 ,
1978 . The April 10 , 1978 Board meeting will be adjourned to a time
and date when the project will be awarded .
HOIST AND FRAME FOR
STORAGE - HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT
Mr . Fabbroni will investigate this matter and make a
recommendation to the Town Board at the earliest possible moment .
EXECUTIVE SESSION
The Board duly retired into executive session where they
discussed the Rumsey- Ithaca gravel pit operation .
ADJOURNMENT
The Board reconvened into open session and there being
no further business to be brought before the meeting , the meeting
was duly adjourned .
Edw L . Bergen , Town Clerk