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Town of Lansing
Monday, June 23, 2014 6:30 PM PLANNING BOARD MEETING
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
* Tom Ellis, Chairman
* Lin Davidson, Vice-Chairman
* Larry Sharpsteen
* Richard Prybyl
* Al Fiorille
* Gerald Caward
* Ray Farkas
* Deborah Trumbull (Alternate)
* Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq.
Other Staff
Lynn Day, Zoning, Code, Fire Enforcement Officer
Charlie Purcell, Deputy Highway Superintendent
Ed LaVigne, Town Board Member
Public Present
Connie Wilcox
Maureen Cowen
Larry Fabbroni, P.E.
Other Business
Tom Ellis, Chairperson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 6:31 PM.
Public Comments/Concerns other than Agenda Items
There were none.
Discussion –Proposed Revisions to Whispering Pines VI,
Richard Thaler, Owner, Asbury Road and Warren Road,
Tax Parcel # 40.-3-2.12
Larry Fabbroni, P.E. for the Thaler’s appeared before the Board requesting revisions to
the proposed Whispering Pines Phase VI. The Thaler’s would like to do the following
below;
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Since last visiting the Planning Board, Mr. Fabbroni has met with Mayor Hartil and
discussed the extension of the sewer through the Village to the Town. Mr. Fabbroni
states there is an agreement on the books that would allow the Town to do that, of
course with a cost associated. The sewer would come through the Thaler land. The
storm sewer would be taken into consideration for the 9 lots of Phase VI as well as the
balance of the land not considered in that phase.
A brief discussion occurred with respect to reserving a portion of the road where the
hammer head will be placed, for a future Town road to connect to the Cayuga Way
Subdivision.
Mr. Fabbroni states yes, that can be done as long as the Town realizes the location of the
road could move depending on the avaiability of sewer, topography of the land and
open space. Mr. Fabbroni states the Thaler’s could commit that there will always be a
route to the existing right of way.
Ms. Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt states the big concern would be seg mentation under
SEQR, and also the phasing of the entire project. Ms. Moynihan Schmitt states she
would welcome sitting with the Town Attorney to discuss this further.
Larry Fabbroni states they have no active plans for the last lots.
Ms. Moynihan Schmitt states the Planning Board is charged with looking at overall
environmental impacts and the Stormwater needs to be looked at for the projected
overall development. Ms. Moynihan Schmitt recommended that David Herrick take a
look at the Stormwater for the overall project.
For the revised Sketch Plan & Preliminary Plat the Board would like Dave Herrick’s
comments for any possible conditions, and a commitment letter from the Developer
regarding road connections. In addition the Highway Department and the Fire
Department should provide their feedback in writing.
Re-evaluate Minor Subdivision Process
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt gave the following recommendations;
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After much discussion regarding the description/definition of a Subdivision, it was the
consensus of the Board to include a descriptive design in our Subdivision Rules &
Regulations. Ms. Moynihan Schmitt states the Planning Office should review their Fee
Schedule. This will be up for discussion again at a future Working Meeting.
Village Solars-Bolton Point
Lynn Day, Zoning Officer distributed 2 maps showing the Village Solars proposed
development. Mr. Day states the Developer is having an issue with Bolton Point Water
with respect to how many Water Meters can be set up on a parcel. Currently Bolton
Point only allows one Meter per tax parcel. In an existing situation like the proposed, it
is difficult to do. They have five buildings on one parcel with one building going
through a tax parcel (Lot 11, building C). The Assessment Office has requested that the
Code Office not issue a Building Permit for that Building until such time as the owner
consolidates 3 parcels into one parcel. At this time, Bolton Point is working with the
Town Highway with respect to the water issue. According to Mr. Day, Bolton Point is
recommending from the Planning Board for future projects that they require from the
Developer a Master Meter for a single parcel that has multiple buildings. This must be
in the Planning Board’s Resolution.
Letter of Recommendation Re: Land Use Changes
Lynn Day, Zoning Officer requested that the Planning Board provide him with a letter
of recommendation in support of the proposed changes to pass along to the Town
Board. The Board offered several punctuation corrections to the Zoning Officer.
Planning Board Members-Legal Fees
Lynn Day, Zoning Officer advised the Members that the Planning Department is
receiving charges from Legal Counsel for services made by Planning Board Members
via emails/calls that have been unauthorized by the Planning Department or Planning
Board Chairman. Mr. Day states in the future, prior authorization must be given by the
Planning Department or the Chairman, who will then notify Counsel to proceed.
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt suggested that all email replies be funneled to one person
who will then reply to Ms. Moynihan Schmitt. The consensus of the Board was as
follows; all concerns, calls, comments should go through Thomas Ellis, who then will
contact Lynn Day and Lynn will make the decision as to how to proceed.
Proposed Subdivision- Stormwater Issue
Lynn Day, Zoning Officer requested the Board’s opinion on how to handle the
Stormwater for someone who is selling their 100 acre parcel into 4 lots. This person has
no idea what is going to happen in the future with the parcels. Mr. Day feels it is unfair
for the seller to have to conform to Stormwater. Mr. Day states each lot will be over 5
acre in size with 150’ of road frontage, therefore, he can do these as Exempt
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Subdivisions in his Office. Mr. Day states in the Town’s Stormwater Law, there is a
clause stating the Planning Board can issue a waiver for special circumstances. Mr. Day
is requesting a waiver at this time.
Ms. Moynihan Schmitt states this can be done if it’s legal. Municipalities can’t waive
State Stormwater mandates. Ms. Moynihan Schmitt states as long as this is going to be
farmland, then she does not have an issue with the waiver. A condition can be placed
on the approval, indicating further development or infrastructure would require
Stormwater.
Mr. Day states he is approving this in his Office.
Ms. Moynihan Schmitt cautioned Mr. Day not to do this in his Office as an Exempt
Subdivision. Ms. Moynihan Schmitt indicated the Exempt Subdivision Local Law did
not envision allowing the Code Officer to place conditions on Exempt Subdivisions.
Furthermore, Ms. Moynihan Schmitt states the Planning Board can trump whether
something is Exempt or not and any Exempt Subdivision with wrinkles should be
brought before the Planning Board.
It was the consensus of the Members that the Applicant appear before the Planning
Board for review. It was requested that a small narrative accompany her paperwork
and Map.
Approval/Denial of June 9, 2014 Minutes
Page 17, necessailary to necessarily.
Page 18, 3rd sentence add Department after Highway
Under -Discussion Traffic Study-indicate John Young, Developer for Novalane stated
on the record he will contribute his share in the cost of the Traffic Study to the amount
of $1,500.00
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to approve as amended. Lin Davidson seconded the
motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Legal Counsel re: Traffic Study
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Ms. Moynihan Schmitt distributed a letter she prepared at the request of the Chairman
with regards to the Town Wide Traffic Study. The expanded scope of work should
include the corridor area between Asbury Road and Sun Path and Triphammer from
Waterwagon to Asbury Road for the Town portion of the study. Also the following are
proposed developments that should be included in the Traffic Study; Cayuga Farms
Townhomes, Novalane (full build out), Sun Path Road Development (Westview
Partners, LLC- full build out) Town Center Development. These are proposed projects
over the next 5 years.
Lin Davidson made a motion to adjourn the Meeting at 8:00 PM. Raymond Farkas
seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member