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Home My WebLink About06-09-14 PB Minutes.docxDRAFT Town of Lansing Monday, June 09, 2014 6:30 PM JT/ PLANNING BOARD-TOWN BOARD PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS (*Denotes present) *Tom Ellis, Chairman *Lin Davidson, Vice-Chairman *Larry Sharpsteen *Richard Prybyl *Al Fiorille * Gerald Caward * Ray Farkas * Deborah Trumbull (Alternate) * Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq. Other Staff Lynn Day, Zoning, Code, Fire Enforcement Officer Charlie Purcell, Deputy Highway Superintendent Ruth Hopkins, Town Board Member Ed LaVigne, Town Board Member Robert Cree, Town Board Member David Herrick, P.E. Town Engineer Public Present Connie WilcoxJeff Goodmark Maureen CowenBill Charsson, Lansing Ledger Dan Veaner, Lansing Star Editor R & D Loring John Young Other Business Tom Ellis, Chairperson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 6:32 PM. Public Comments/Concerns other than Agenda Items There were none. Planning Board Member Concerns/Comments Lin Davidson questioned if there is a new Ag. Data Statement Form that list the property owners receiving the Ag. Exempt. Ms. Moynihan Schmitt will look into this. Sketch Plan Review and Classification of Six (6) Lot Subdivision, Stormy View Drive, Applicant: John & Heather Stevens, Tax Parcel(s) 41.-1-15.49, 41.-1-29.1, 41.-1-29.3, 41.-1-29.4 Mr. James Stephenson, Agent for the Steven’s Subdivision appeared before the Board for a Sketch Plan Review. The following was presented to the Board; Further explanation Mr. Stephenson states he received notifiation today from Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt that he can not use Triphammer Road as frontage for one of the lots. Mr. Stephenson requested further explanation as this will change his Subdivision. Thomas Ellis states the Land Use Ordinance definitions will not permit use of Triphammer Road to calculate the road frontage on Lot 3 because the house fronts on the new road. Mr. Stephenson states his proposal shows the intent, but does not necessarilyplace the homes in stone. If he turns the structures 45 degrees, they will then face Triphammer Road with access off of the proposed new road, and that will still comply with the Land Use Ordinance. Mr. Stephenson requested to know if he showed adifferent orientation of the house, will that satisfy the requirement? Larry Sharpsteen states the requirement for Flag Lot frontage being 30’ and this one being 60’, he feels this is verbal gymnastists. Larry does not feel this is a ZBA issue. Ms. Moynihan Schmitt states there is a grey area, and it is totally up to the Planning Board. However, if would be Counsel’s recommendation to apply for a Variance. Lynn Day, Zoning Officer states Triphammer Road is the rear of the property. Al Fiorille inquired if the Town HighwayDepartment had any problem with the layout of the driveways with respect to snowplowing. Charlie Purcell indicated no, it is very similar to another development in the area. Planning Board Members felt that it would be unusual for the Zoning Board to deny such a request regarding the frontage. Lynn Day, Zoning Officer states the lot in question has 60’ of road frontage and the drive is under 500’ therefore, he feels it that should be a Flag Lot which would not require a ZBA action. Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to classify this as Major Subdivision consisting of 6 Lots, 5 being conventional and 1 Flag Lot. Lin Davidson seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote: Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member The Board reviewed the Town Engineer’s comments as follows (in red) and advised Mr. Stephenson that they must be addressed prior to his final Preliminary Plat for the next step in the process. After reviewing the above, the following issues need to be addressed Mr. Stephenson contact NYSEG regarding their easement More research/clarify should be done on the water issue with regards to sizing and connection. Pipe used for Culverts should be HDPE The SWPPP must be submitted to the Town of Lansing Stormwater Management Officer The Stormwater Pond must have an easement delineated on the Map. Also, Applicant may be required to apply for a Culvert Permit from the Tompkins County Highway Department. The SWPPP must be accepted by the Town Stormwater Management Officer and David Herrick, P.E. for the Town Set Meeting up with Maureen Cowen, Chairperson for The Lansing Trails Committee regarding the Lansing Trails. The Trail will not be on the proposed Subdivision however, it will come off the Young property. David Herrick stated this proposed Subdivision should be dedicated to a Drainage District. Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to classify this project under SEQR as an Unlisted Action. Richard Prybyl seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote: Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye Richard Prybyl, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member Review /Approve : Proposed Subdivision & Site Plan Development Application forms Members reviewed proposed changes requested by Jonathan Kanter, Lynn Day, Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, David Herrick as well as Member themselves. Subdivision Application And Check List: Change submission time frame from 15 days (top) of page one- checklist) to 21 days. Change submission time from 14 days to 21 days on application form (bottom of pg 1) . Subdivision Application Procedure Checklist changes: Letter “e.” Add “and proposed” after “Existing” Letter “f.” Change “flood plain” to “floodplain, NYSDEC mapped state wetlands and/or federal mapped wetlands.” Letter “g.” After “Unique Natural Areas” add: “In addition, provide location of any CEAs and New York State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO ) mapped historic archeological, and cultural resources located at or near the site. Letter “h.” delete “when this is a consideration.” Letter “i” Replace with “Proposed storm water drainage from the site. Applicant shall delineate the area of proposed soil disturbance, including landscaping and proposed lawn. A stormwater management plan, consistent with the Town's local stormwater and erosion control local law and NYSDEC SPEDES permit requisites is required. A full SWPPP is currently required for a 2 acre or more soil disturbance pursuant to the Town’s Local Stormwater and Erosion Control Local Law number 6 of 2009. Soil disturbance includes landscaping and lawn placement.” “j.” Delete entirely (it is now included in revised “i”) Re-letter remaining checklist accordingly Old “k” (now “j”) Add “system” as late word. Last letter new- “n.” should read: “Provide materials for County Department of Health DOH and/or County 239 Review.” Approval/Denial of May 12, 2014 Minutes Lin Davidson, pg. 1 not in attendance Thomas Ellis, pg. 7 4th paragraph: hand to handle Lin Davidson, pg 15 slack to flack Thomas Ellis made a motion to approve as amended. Lin Davidson seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote: Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member Proposed Zoning Maps Changes Lynn Day, Zoning Officer states he would like to have a decision from the Planning Board Members as to what Map they would recommend to the Town Board. Additionally, Mr. Day intends to have the County Planning Office place all the Town’s Planned Development Areas on the Official Map as required by Law. Mr. Day again refreshed the Board with the proposed changes. After reviewing the Maps presented, Members felt that Map 2 would make the most sense. Discussion-Traffic Study Larry Sharpsteen began the discussion by inquiring from the Town’s Engineer, David Herrick as to how long the Traffic Studies are valid for. Mr. Herrick replied five (5) years. Mr. Herrick discussed the estimate of the proposed Traffic Study on Route 34 from Asbury Road to the Novalane project. Some Members felt there should be a study that involved other projects within the Town that are currently on the planning radar. Ruth Hopkins states the County did a study approximately three years ago and most towns use that data to have an access impact analysis done. Ms. Hopkins further stated there are grants available for these studies. It was David Herrick’s opinion that if the Board is concerned about intersection use, volume, turning paths, etc. then a full study should be completed. Charlie Purcell inquired if the Village of Lansing would be considered a paying party as well as the Developer’s involved in this study. Mr. Purcell states a Developer on Sun Path Road has two properties that are located in the Village jurisdiction and the remaining proposed lots are in the Town. Ed LaVigne states he has a copy of a DOT report completed in 2011. Mr. LaVigne inquired if that one was not sufficient. Larry Sharpsteen advised Mr. LaVigne the report does not address the items that are going to change such as the build out of Sun Path, the connection to Smuggler’s Path and a partial build out of Novalane. John Young again read a particular part of the Town’s Comprehensive Plan that relates to the Neighborhoods near the proposed Novalane Project and inquired from the Board as to why the current Town’s Comprehensive Plan is not valid. Mr. Young feels his plan will solve many of the traffic & safety concerns the residents have. Larry Sharpsteen agreed with Mr. Young, however, Mr. Sharpsteen stated the Planning Board is receiving resistance from the residents in those neighborhoods. Mr. Sharpsteen further stated what the Planning Board is trying to do is doing some good for the Town as a whole with respect to the Traffic Study. Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt states the Planning Board is charged with looking at traffic and safety issues within their Subdivision approval process. Al Fiorille thought the Traffic Study needs to go further to involve other neighborhoods in the north and south. Richard Prybyl stated the Planning Board is charged to do Planning. If the tools are not given to do Planning, then don’t expect quality output. John Young states nothing that he does in the Novalane project will make a difference with regards to the intersection of the state road, other than a small amount of traffic. Larry Sharpsteen again reiterated it was always the Planning Boards intention to have a connector road between the developments down near Eastlake. It was the Planning Board consensus that they move forward with the full study and recoup a portion of the monies from future Developers. The developments to be included in sharing the expense would be; Sun Path, Novalane and WB Property-Triphammer Road. It was clearly stated the Traffic Study would not hold up the development of the proposed road through the Novalane project and beyond north and south. For the record, Novalane Developer John Young agreed to share in the cost of the Traffic Study to the amount of $1,500.00. Planner Position Thomas Ellis inquired from Ed LaVigne as to how the Town Board is coming with filling the Planner position. Ed LaVigne states hopefully the position will be posted this week. When the proper candidate arrives, Mr. LaVigne has invited Thomas Ellis to be involved in that conversation. Robert Cree indicated they have talked to 3-4 people on a part time basis and there is considerable interest. The Planning Board Members stated they would like to see someone dedicated as oppose to someone filling in 20 hours on a calendar. Upcoming Item Lynn Day, Zoning Officer states Whispering Pines VI will be returning for a possible revision of the proposed Plat. Lin Davidson made a motion to adjourn the Meeting at 8:30 PM. Raymond Farkas seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote: Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member