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Town of Lansing
Monday, April 28, 2014 6:30 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
* Tom Ellis, Chairman
* Lin Davidson, Vice-Chairman
* Larry Sharpsteen
* Richard Prybyl
* Al Fiorille
* Gerald Caward
* Ray Farkas
Deborah Trumbull (Alternate)
* Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq.
Other Staff
Lynn Day, Zoning, Code, Fire Enforcement Officer
Kathy Miller, Town Supervisor, TB Liaison
Charlie Purcell, Deputy Highway Superintendent
Public Present
Amanda Steinhardt David Rutherford
Carolyn Sampson Robert Hillman
Osman Yurekli Susan Brock
John Anderson Roberta Wasenko
Robert Karpman Bruce Turnbull
John Young Martha Turnbull
Richard Schuler Mary Schuler
Carol Vineyard Joseph Morse
Todd Mallinson Jack Morse
Marcia Parks Jill Vaughan
Karen Piersanti Natalia Emlen
Margaret Keller Michael
Scott Gibson John Stevens
John
Other Business
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Tom Ellis, Chairperson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 6:35 PM.
Public Comments/Concerns other than Agenda Items
There were none.
Novalane Subdivision -Sketch Plan Presentation & Classification for a
Seven (7) lot Major Subdivision, Applicant: John Young, Tax Parcel No.
36.-1-17.40, R1-Residential-Low Density District.
John Andersson, P.E. for the Novalane Subdivision offered the following information;
The project will subdivide the western 14 acres of tax parcel 36.-1-17.40 into seven (7)
residential building lots.The lots will exceed the minimum requirements for the zoning
and range from one acre, up to two acres in size. The western most portion is wooded,
it will be preserved and will have deed restrictions. The existing Smuggler’s Path will
will be extended south to connect to Eastlake Road through the”paper” road adjacent to
# 94 Eastlake Road. Six lots will front on the extended Smuggler’s Path, two would be
flag lots with the body of the lot west of the road. The seventh lot will have access off
from Reach Run.
The existing water main on Smuggler’s Path will also be extended and connected to the
main in the Eastlake Road. Individual on site wastewater treatment systems are
proposed for each lot. The balance of the property will remain in cultivation for the
time being, althought it is anticipated that the entire property will eventually be
developed for residential uses.
A brief discussion took place with regards to how many Flag lots. It was determined
that lots l & 2 are considered Flag Lots with Lot 7 conforming. There is no Zoning
Board of Appeals action required on the proposal.
Richard Prybyl inquired as to what this does to the traffic in the area? Mr. Prybyl feels
this whole area has some serious traffic issues that need to be taken care of. Some how
this problem needs to be addressed before the Town should allow any further
development.
Richard Prybyl made a motion requesting that the Planning Board demand a through
Traffic Study to mitigate the risk of any number of traffic accidents that could/would
occur in this location and are increased by the level of this development.
Mr. Ellis expressed that he thought a Traffic Study was performed in 2011 by New York
State Department of Transportation. Ms. Moynhian Schmitt states an independent
party could perform a study using the base study from the State.
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Ms. Natalia Emlen, a resident from Eastlake states she has the petition file with all
correspondence regarding the Traffic Study. Ms. Emlen will gladly provide the
Members with a copy.
Mr. Young states he followed the 2006 Comprehensive plan, which when discussing the
Smuggler Path’s connection, they specifically stated the extension would deliver
immediate benefits for intersection safety.
Amanda Steinhardt, Eastlake resident states this proposed project would create extra
traffice through her neighborhood, that they don’t currently have.
Larry Sharpsteen stated for the last 25 years, the Planning Board envisioned this
“paper” road was for a connector road that would allow for an easier outlet for
emergency vehicle access through the area.
Larry Sharpsteen states the State needs to mitigate the problem by either erecting a
traffic light or by lowering the State speed limit in the area.
Thomas Ellis inquired if Mr. Young had made contact with Mr. Leathers to discuss the
possibility of creating a road through the parking lot of the rec. center to exit out o n
Eastlake Road instead of traffic driving through Eastlake neighborhood.
John Young indicated he does not want to do anything up in that location right now,
and sees no reason to contact the owner for something that could happen 20 years later.
Larry Sharpsteen prepared the Members for what a privately funded traffic study may
say when done. Mr. Sharpsteen believes it will say at a full build out of 14 lots, it will
potentially increase the cars by 3-4 twice per day. The study will take both entrances
into account and will not necessary address the concerns with regards to the Eastlake
development.
Thomas Ellis suggested that the Board hold off requesting a Traffic Study until the
Town Engineer researches to see what type of Traffic Study needs to be done and to
what depth.
The previous Motion was tabled until such time that the Town Engineer replies to the
Planning Board.
Larry Sharpsteen clarified for the Public present that just because this is at the stage for
acceptance of the Sketch Plan, it does not mean that everything is ok. This is a process
and the Board will continue to work on things such as, potential for a traffic study, and
other concerns that arise as the development moves forward.
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John Stevens, Agent for Windswept, LLC inquired as to when the preliminary
Stormwater Plan will be completed. Mr. Anderson stated most likely in a month.
A gentlemen inquired as to how the Planning Board can assure the existing residents
that their lake views will not be obstructed from the new buildings heights proposed by
the Developer.
Thomas Ellis, Chairman advised this person that it is up to a Homeowner ‘s Association
to enforce or instill restrictions on properties within a Subdivision.
Lin Davidson made a motion to accept this as the initial Sketch Plan approval. Larry
Sharpsteen seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Nay) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to classify this as a Major Subdivision. Lin Davidson
seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Sketch Plan & Classification for Lakeview Phase III Subdivision,
Applicant: WB Realty Group, LLC, Grandview Dr./Pheasant Way,
Lansing, NY, Tax Parcel No.(s) 40.-3-36.28 through 40.-3-36.39
Thomas Ellis, Chairman gave a brief history on the existing Subdivision;
The Year 2000 Lakeview approved as Phase I
The Year 2002 Lakeview approved as Phase II
Present - Modification for Stormwater Management Purposes, this Phase now
known as Phase III with no new lots.
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Mr. Scott Gibson, Agent for Tim Buhl, P.E. appeared before the Board on Mr. Buhl’s
behalf. The following Map was presented;
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Mr. Gibson stated Lot 28 will no longer be a building lot and now will become the
Retention Pond. In addition, some lots will have rain gardens as their stormwater
practices. There will be covenants on the pond as well as the rain gardens and
documents will be prepared through the Town of Lansing’s Engineer and Legal
Counsel to deal with that.
A resident residing at 125 Triphammer Terrace had extreme concerns with the
Stormwater Pond being located adjacent to her property as she has had flooding of her
home in the past. In addition, she is concerned with it creating an increase in
mosquitoes.
A gentlemen living to the north, states by selecting lot 28 for the Retention Pond you are
putting it right next to two existing home, building a pond 125’above two existing
homes, when you could choose another lot for it without having existing homes near.
This would give the perspective buyer a choice whether they would want to live next to
a pond or not.
Scott Gibson gave an extensive explanation of the topography of the land, as well as the
reasoning for placement and design of the pond. Mr. Gibson further stated there is no
other logical place to put the Pond. Mr. Gibson further stated the DEC now
recommends having these types of Stormwater practices.
Charlie Purcell, Deputy Highway Superintendent states the Town has had no issues
with any of the Stormwater Ponds they currently have within the Town.
Susan Brock, Lansing resident had concerns with minimizing the stormwater run off
and erosion, and is requesting the Developer follow the Town’s Subdivision Rules and
Regulations that states “ To the fullest extent possible, existing trees that are greater
than four inches in diameter, measured at a height of 4 feet above the ground, shall be
conserved by the Subdivider ”. Ms. Brock is further requesting from the Planning
Board that when the Developer comes in for the Preliminary Approval that the Board
requests from the Developer a plan showing which trees they are planning to preserve
and the ones they plan to cut. Ms. Brock would like to see some of the large trees that
may be in the right away preserved.
Charlie Purcell explained to Ms. Brock the problems that could arise from large trees
being left in the right of way. Mr. Purcell has agreed to meet with Ms. Brock and walk
the area where she has requested some remain.
Thomas Ellis, Chairman states there has been some confusion with the process for this
proposed modification of the existing approved Subdivision with respect to
Stormwater. Mr. Ellis further stated the Planning Board is the legislative body that
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must give final approval on the Stormwater Plan prior to the Developer beginning his
work. At some point the Engineer had the SWPPP signed by the Stormwater
Management Officer, and that should not have happened.
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Legal Counsel for the Planning Board expressed that it
would be in the Developer’s best interest not to begin work until this process has been
approved. Ms. Moynihan Schmitt requested that Mr. Buhl put something in writing to
the Planning Department affirming the Applicant has no intention of breaking ground
until such approval is given by the Planning Board. Legal Counsel advised the Board at
this time if that does not happen, then they need to take action to rescind the signed
SWPPP.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to classify this proposal as an amendment to a
previous existing Subdivision. Lin Davidson seconded the motion and it was carried by
the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Raymond Farkas made a motion to set a Public Hearing for SEQR
Review/Determination and Review of the overall Application for Monday, May 12,
2014 at 6:35 PM. Richard Prybyl seconded the motion and it was carried by the
following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Susan Brock questioned item # 3.a on page one of the SEQR. Ms. Brock felt it should
include the total Subdivision as it has never been looked at before. Ms. Moynihan
Schmitt advised Ms. Brock that the Town Engineer has reviewed the SEQR and is
satisfied with it.
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Susan Brock requested that the Developer consider moving their large equipment to
another location that will not be on top on residents. It was requested that Mr. Gibson
forward that information to Mr. Buhl.
It was requested that Mr. Gibson let Tim Buhl, P.E. know that he or Developer must
notify all neighbors within 600’ of the 60’ right of way.
Consider Approval of April 14, 2014 Meeting Minutes.
Al Fiorille states pg. 2, first paragraph: tolls should read polls.
Gerry Caward states he meant to say: By Mr. Kanter attending a variety of Committee
Meetings, he was able to relay to the RFP Committee Members updated information.
Al Fiorille made a motion to approve as amended. Richard Prybyl seconded the motion
and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Lin Davidson made a motion to enter into Closed Session at 8:13 PM to obtain advice
from Legal Counsel. Richard Prybyl seconded the motion and it was carried by the
following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Lin Davidson made a motion to Exit closed Session at 8:47 PM. Larry Sharpsteen
seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
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Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Joint PB/TB Meeting to Discuss Proposed Zoning Map Changes
The Board requested that the Town Board Members be invited to attend the next
Planning Board Meeting to review the proposed zoning Map changes with them.
Rachel Jacobsen will contact all Town Board Members to see if they can arrange their
schedules in order to be in attendance on Monday, May 12, 2014 at 6:30 PM.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to adjourn the Regular Meeting at 8:48 PM. Richard
Prybyl seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member