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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-13-14 PB Minutes APPROVED
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Town of Lansing
Monday, January 13, 2014 7:15 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
* Tom Ellis, Chairman
* Lin Davidson, Vice-Chairman
* Larry Sharpsteen
David Hatfield
* Richard Prybyl
* Al Fiorille
* Gerald Caward
* Jonathan Kanter, Planning Consultant
* Ray Farkas (Alternate Member)
Other Staff
Lynn Day, Zoning, Code, Fire Enforcement Officer
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, PB Legal Counsel
Public Present
Jack Young Roger Hopkins
Susan Murphy Joseph Morse
Max Steinhardt Sean Whittaker
Maryanne Banks Rick Banks
Natalia Emlen Steve Emlen
Zach Shulman Floyd Davis
Ed LaVigne Jim Johnston
Karen Piersanti James Piersanti
Maureen Cowan Carolyn Sampson
John Anderson Bill Bellamy
Nancy Bellamy Deborah Trumbull
Susan Markowtiz Mel Richards
Jane Richards Margaret Keller
Michael Keller William Currie
Roberta Wasenko Chris Anagnost
Other Business
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Tom Ellis, Chairperson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7:16 PM.
No public comments/concerns voiced.
Chairman Ellis stated for the record, this presentation is a very informal Meeting
between the developer and the Planning Board.
Informal Developer’s Conference for a Seven (7) lot Major Subdivision,
Applicant: John Young, Tax Parcel No. 36.-1-17.40, R1-Residential-Low
Density District.
David Rutherford, Representative for Mr. Young appeared before the Board. The
following information was provided to the Board;
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Mr. Rutherford indicated the presented maps are only for informational purposes, to
better help the Members. They are not the final design.
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Al Fiorille inquired if the new road was built to Smuggler’s Path with a 60’ wide
reservation for connection to East Lake Road, who would be responsible for building
the road extension?
Jonathan Kanter indicated it would be the Developer’s (Mr. Young) responsibility.
There is already an easement in place on the two separate lots for the road extension.
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Legal Counsel indicated it states the Developer is
responsible in the Subdivision Rules and Regulations.
Thomas Ellis has concerns with the traffic flow, as does Larry Sharpsteen. The brunt of
the traffic will be borne by Eastlake.
Larry Sharpsteen and Thomas Ellis have Stormwater concerns. Mr. Sharpsteen would
like to see a plan for future-potential development on the property.
Mr. Rutherford states Mr. Young did send a document to Mr. Kanter indicating he does
not want to develop the full eastern part of the property at this time.
Jonathan Kanter states an overall conceptual Stormwater Plan and Traffic Plan can be
done for the entire site with the assumptions we know will happen in the future.
Richard Prybyl states in order to continue Comprehensive Planning for the Town, he
believes the whole Stormwater Plan should be laid out. Mr. Prybyl also has great
concerns with the traffic in the area of NYS Route 34 (Eastlake to the Rink). A request
for lighting, pathways, and signage was also requested by Mr. Prybyl.
Mr. Rutherford reiterated the sketches are not the original plans. They are just options
for discussion purposes.
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt expressed to the Board Members that there are certain
requirements needed at the Sketch Plan level.
Thomas Ellis states he would prefer to see a road built on the west side of 34 at
Waterwagon Road. Jonathan Kanter disagreed with Mr. Ellis due to the poor site
distance on the north side of Waterwagon.
Larry Sharpsteen clarified that the Town Highway Department has indicated their
preferred option is number one for maintenance purposes and life safety.
Lots 1 & 7 of option # 1 will need to have Variances.
Jonathan Kanter encouraged the Board Members to review the Comprehensive Plan
reference that Mr. Young’s memo pointed out. Mr. Kanter further explained it is quite
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specific with respect to the need for the future Smuggler’s Path extension to go thru the
Novalane property to hook up to the adjacent subdivisions and eventually connect to
Sun Path Road area.
Public Comments/Concerns
A Resident inquired as to where the Stormwater Pond would be located. The Engineer
advised it is unknown, at this time.
Increase traffic concerns within the existing subdivisions and on the state highway in
that area. The speed limit needs to be reduced, or even a street light.
Ed LaVigne advised the public that he will check with our County Rep. Mike Sigler,
and local Congressman to get the ball rolling on the traffic/safety concerns.
Revised Sketch Plan, Farm Pond Circle Subdivision, Farm Pond Circle &
Peruville Road, Applicant: Jack Jensen Development Co. LLC, Tax Parcel
# 38.-1-4.121 & .122
John Andersson, P.E. for Mr. Jensen gave a brief overview of the proposal
and indicated as follows;
Re: Farm Pond Circle Subdivision (add Lots 20, 21; revise Lot 19)
Peruville Road and Farm Pond Circle, Lansing-T
Tax parcels 7-38.-1-4.121 and Part Of -4.122
Revised Sketches for Planning Board Meeting January 13, 2014
The preliminary lot layout as presented to you on September 23, 2013, was discussed at the
Board of Zoning Appeals on October 29, 2013. The proposed Lots 20 and 21, planned for
duplex units (2-bedroom + 1-bedrooom), were shown approximately 52,000 square feet each
while the zoning requires 40,000 square feet per unit. The BZA denied the request to waive the
80,000 square foot requirement.
The members of the BZA informally indicated that the lot size variance would be favorably
reviewed if the lots were increased to at least 70,000 square feet. However, the difference in
layout of 70,000 or 80,000 square foot lots for this project is not significant. The larger lots must
include federal wetlands that cannot be used for buildings, water or sewage systems. The
attached revised sketch plan shows Lot 20 encompassing additional road frontage along Farm
Pond Circle and wetland area between the building site and the pond. Lot 21 is forced to have an
unusual shape and include a portion of the wetland paralleling Peruville Road because the line
dividing lots 20 and 21 must be where it is shown to provide enough usable area to build on each
lot.
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An alternative sketch plan is also included that shows Lot 20 at about 48,000 square feet for a
single family home. Lot 19 then is able to have better access and more privacy around the pond.
Lot 21 remains the same shape and size in either scenario.
Alternate
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Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to re-affirm the classification as an amendment to a
Major Subdivision with option 2 being the Board’s choice as well as Mr. Jensen’s. Lot 20,
will be a single family residence on 48,000 sq. ft. lot. Lin Davidson seconded the motion
and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
It was requested that an amendment to the EAF be completed to reflect the Single
Family home as oppose to the duplex. Planning Board Members will review the
amendment at the February 10th Meeting. A new map showing the single family home
should be provided.
Richard Prybyl made a motion to waive the Public Hearing on the SEQR and the
modification of the original development plan. Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion
and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
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Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Consider Approval of December 9, 2013 Meeting Minutes
Page 2, 4th paragraph seems to sees
Page 2, 5th paragraph Gerry to Jerry
Page 4, Strike last sentence
Thomas Ellis made a motion to approve as amended. Lin Davidson seconded the
motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Abstained) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Planning Board Member’s Resignation
Chairman Ellis advised the Board that Member David Hatfield has
resigned for personal reasons.
Lynn Day- Zoning Officer/Building Inspector
Mr. Day distributed a copy of the proposed changes to the Land Use Ordinance and a
copy of the existing one. Discussion on the changes will follow at the January 27th
Meeting.
Executive Session
Richard Prybyl made a motion to enter into Executive Session at 8:50 PM to discuss a
Personnel issue. Jerry Caward seconded the motion and it was carried by the following
roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Thomas Ellis made a motion to terminate the Executive Session at 9:06 PM and
reconvene the regular Meeting.
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Recommendation for Farkas Appointment to permanent position
Larry Sharpsteen recommended that the Planning Board submit a letter of
recommendation to the Town Board to appoint Ray Farkas to the Planning Board
position vacated by Hatfield. Richard Prybyl seconded the motion and it was carried
by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Abstained) Thomas Ellis, Member
Recommendation for Prybyl Re-Appointment (7 Yr. Term)
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to recommend to the Town Board for re-appointment
of Member Richard Prybyl for an additional seven (7) year term. Al Fiorille seconded
the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Abstained) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Abstained) Thomas Ellis, Member
Thomas Ellis made a motion to terminate the Regular Meeting at 9:12 PM. Richard
Prybyl seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member