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Town of Lansing
Planning Board Meeting
November 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM
Lansing Town Hall – Large Court Rm.
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Agenda
Time:Agenda Topics
7:15 P.M. Public Comments/Concerns.
7:20 P.M.Presentation and Discussion – Draft Town of Lansing Agriculture & Farmland Protection Plan – Monika Roth, Cornell Cooperative Extension Tompkins County.
8:15 P.M.Discussion Regarding Further Revision of Site Plan Modification Thresholds for Proposed Changes of Occupancy or Use in Buildings that Have Already Undergone Site Plan Approval.
8:30 P.M.Discussion Regarding Possible Revisions to Subdivision Regulations – e.g., amend definitions of “exempt” and “minor” subdivisions; consider new provisions for expiration of
filed subdivisions.
Consider Approval of October 28, 2013 and November 4, 2013 Meeting Minutes.
Any other business deemed necessary.
APPROVED
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Town of Lansing
Wednesday, November 25, 2013 4:15 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
* Tom Ellis, Chairman
* Lin Davidson, Vice-Chairman
* Larry Sharpsteen
David Hatfield
* Richard Prybyl
* Al Fiorille
* Gerald Caward
* Jonathan Kanter, Planning Consultant
* Ray Farkas (Alternate Member)
Other Staff
Lynn Day, Zoning, Code, Fire Enforcement Officer
Kathy Miller, Town Supervisor
Katrina Binkewicz, Town Board Member
Ruth Hopkins, Town Board Member
Ed LaVigne, Town Board Member
Public Present
Larry Beck
Dan Konowalow
George Frantz
Other Business
Thomas Ellis, Chairperson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7:15 PM. Mr.
Ellis inquired if there was anyone from the Public that would like to speak with an issue
that was not listed on the Agenda. There were none.
Chairman Ellis advised all present that he was notified by a Cargill Representative that
they will begin their process to install the new shaft. They requested to know if the
Planning Board would like any further information from Cargill. Jonathan Kanter
advised Mr. Ellis to have the Representative contact the Planning Office directly.
APPROVED
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Mr. Ellis recalls someone from the public inquiring as to how the Town could allow this
use in the district. According to the Town’s Land Use Ordinance, this is a permitted
use.
Chairman Ellis enacted the Alternate Member to vote due to a Member being absent.
Presentation and Discussion – Draft Town of Lansing Agriculture &
Farmland Protection Plan – Monika Roth, Cornell Cooperative Extension
Tompkins County.
Ms. Monika Roth, of Cooperative Extension gave an overview of a proposed
Agriculture Plan recently prepared. The Agriculture Committee which consists of local
residents has helped come up with this plan, as did George Frantz, Planning
Consultant, Planning Board Members and Town Board Members.
The State would like to see in these plans is an identification of what farm land area are
high priority to protect. In addition, the State would like to see what the general
condition of agriculture is and it is economic impact.
The Agricultural Committee has reviewed numerous data that have been collected in
order to prepare this plan. Ms. Roth states within Tompkins County, Lansing has the
largest agricultural happening. Ms. Roth discussed Ag easements within the County,
including a couple different ones in Lansing. Lansing has the highest prime soil quality
in the County. 1/3 of the total Ag sales in Tompkins County come from Lansing.
Another item the Committee developed was a Vision Statement.
After doing a Zoning Review, George Frantz offered the following recommendations;
1. Have a clear definition of Agricultural
2. Clarify Road Side Stands vs Farm Markets
3. Definition of Junk needs to be amended to allow for farm scrap pile.
Ms. Roth suggested that the Town look at the guidance documents that the State has on
their website. Also, the Town should make sure their definition conforms to the State’s
definition of Agricultural.
A proposed Map change was shown to all and an explanation of the changes was given
by Mr. Frantz. Ms. Roth indicated to the Public this is not a final Map, only a proposed
Map Plan.
It was suggested that the County Wide Ag District be delineated on the proposed
Lansing Map.
APPROVED
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Once approved at the Town Board level, it will then go before the County Agricultural
and Farmland Protection Board for their recommendation to the State. Once approved
by the State, funds would be available for the local Farmers through the State PDR
funding. In addition, the State will provide implementation funds for local
municipalities to hire a Consultant to integrate the changes to our zoning.
Lynn Day, Zoning Officer states he see nothing different except for the few changes the
Committee made to the map with respect to adding the new district. Mr. Day
suggested leaving the majority of the Map as an RA, and then just remove certain uses
from it. There is no need for an additional district.
Larry Sharpsteen states by tweaking the current zoning, and leaving the current map as
is, that should take care of protecting the farmers.
Larry Sharpsteen stated for the record that he feels when an Ag Committee is enacted it
should only include active farmers. Mr. Sharpsteen would encourage the Town Board
be appoint only active farmers.
Monica Roth has targeted this document going to the Town Board for final review in
December and a Public Hearing in January. Larry Sharpsteen states it was agreed that
an additional Meeting with the farming community should be held prior to the Public
Hearing.
Thomas Ellis felt this plan is moving way too fast. There should be several Public
Meetings for further comments from the community prior to holding the final Public
Hearing.
Jonathan Kanter explained the proposed Agricultural Plan will be/should be
incorporated into the new Comprehensive plan when that is update. The
Comprehensive will take awhile longer to complete leaving changes can be made to the
proposed Ag. Plan.
Discussion Regarding Further Revision of Site Plan Modification
Thresholds for Proposed Changes of Occupancy or Use in Buildings that
Have Already Undergone Site Plan Approval.
Member reviewed example material provided to them from Jonathan Kanter. It has
been suggested by the Planning Department that a further amendment to the Land Use
APPROVED
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Ordinance under the Site Plan Review process to make it clear that proposed interior
changes to a building (where no exterior changes are proposed) for a use allowed in the
zoning district in question, even if the proposal involves a change of use or occupancy
classification, would not have to go back to the Planning Board for review and
approval, as long as the other thresholds listed in the amendment (e.g., pertaining to
drainage, parking, traffic, access, etc) would not be exceeded or triggered. The
following is the proposed change;
Site Plan review and Approval Procedures
Modifications of site plans
A site plan that has received final site plan approval may be modified upon the
application of the owner for such modification. Such application shall be in accordance
with the provisions of this article and the procedures applicable to such application
shall be the same as are applicable to an initial application for site plan approval.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, Planning Board approval of a modification shall not be
required:
A. (1) Construction of an addition of more than 1,000 square feet of enclosed space
whether on one or more stories, The numerical criteria for the exceptions from
the requirement of obtaining Planning Board approval are an aggregate
maximum (i.e., if a seven-hundred-square-foot addition is constructed without
obtaining Planning Board approval pursuant to Subsection A(1) above,
construction of a second addition larger than 300 square feet would require
Planning Board approval of a modified site plan; nor
(2) Construction or relocation of more than three parking spaces nor construction
or relocation of any parking spaces to an area that is not adjacent to the original
planned parking area; nor
(3) Enlargement of an existing or previously approved building that involves an
increase of square footage of more than 15% of the existing square footage of the
existing or previously approved building; nor
(4) Alteration of traffic flows and access nor a significant increase in the volume of
traffic; nor
APPROVED
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(5) A significant (in judgment of the Director of Planning) change in the aesthetic
appearance of any structure or site plan element including landscape and lighting
details from that presented at the time of the prior approval; nor
(6) A change in the impacts of the project on surrounding properties, such as an
increase in noise, water run-off, light illumination, or obstructions to views; nor
(7) Violation of any express conditions (including, without limitation, buffer zones,
setback, and similar restrictions) imposed by the Planning Board in granting prior
site plan approval, or
B. If the modification does not involve a movement or shift of a location of one or
more building more than two feet laterally or six inches vertically from the location
or elevation shown on the final site plan where:
(1) Such shift does not alter proposed traffic flows or access; and
(2) Such Shift does not directly violate any express conditions (including, without
limitation, buffer zones, setbacks, etc.) imposed by the Planning Board in granting
prior site plan approval.
C. A demolition, or a proposed demolition, of an existing building, or of a
previously approved building on a previously approved site plan, is a modification
of a site plan subject to the terms of this section.
D. Notwithstanding the other sections of this Article, Planning Board approval of a
modification of a site plan shall not be required if the modification only involves the
construction, alteration, or renovations of the interior of a building, regardless of
whether a change of occupancy or use is involved, and none of the threshold listed
in sections A or B of this Article are exceeded.
After discussing above (D), the Board agreed to recommend the additional
Modification.
SUBDIVISION OF LAND (Exempt and Minor Subdivisions)
Members reviewed example material provided to them by Jonathan Kanter. Mr. Kanter
explained in the material it clearly discusses definitions and procedures for exempt and
minor subdivisions. Both are intended to provide for expedited reviews and approvals
for certain small-scale subdivisions. To qualify for the expedited procedures, both
exempt and minor subdivisions include certain conditions that must be met, including a
APPROVED
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maximum number of lots (4 or less lots) created within any consecutive 3 year period.
This can create potential problems with the cumulative aspects of subdivisions that may
never have to go through Planning Board review and approval. In particular, the
provisions of the Town’s Stormwater and Erosion Control law (2009) require the
preparation of a stormwater management plan and possible permanent stormwater
practices for land disturbance equal to or greater than one acre. This will usually be
triggered with a 3 lot subdivision. Mr. Kanter further indicated it would make sense to
amend the Subdivisions Regulations by changing the number of lots qualifying for
expedited review to no more than 2 lots and to also delete the timeframe of “within any
consecutive 3 year period”, since this can worsen the cumulative impacts relating to not
only stormwater, but also other impacts, such as traffic and access to a busy road (e.g.,
multiple curb-cuts on State, County or local roads).
EXPIRATION OF SUBDIVISION APPROVAL
Members reviewed example material provided to them by Jonathan Kanter. Members
felt there should be previsions in the Town’s Subdivision Rules and Regulations with
regards to time limits on projects that have not begun infrastructure placement or
construction. Members agreed to table the discussion on this subject for a future
Meeting.
APPROVED
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APPROVED
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APPROVED
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Consider Approval of October 28, 2013 and November 4, 2013 Meeting
Minutes.
Gerald Caward made a motion to approve the Minutes of October 28, 2013 as
presented. Lin Davidson seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll
call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Alternate
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Abstain) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Lin Davidson made a motion to approve the Minutes of November 4, 2013 as presented.
Richard Prybyl seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
APPROVED
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Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Alternate
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Abstained) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Joint Meeting w/ Town Board
The Town Board would like to have a joint Meeting to go over the results of the
Comprehensive Survey. The Meeting has been set for Wednesday, December 18, 2013
at 6:00 PM (for approximately 1 hour) in the Town Hall Board Room.
Consultant Position
Mr. Kanter will be leaving the Consultant position and the Lansing area in late March.
He will continue to work with the Planning Board and Town Board until such time.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to adjourn the Meeting at 9:15 PM. Lin Davidson
seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Alternate
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
DRAFT
Town of Lansing
Wednesday, November 25, 2013 4:15 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
*Tom Ellis, Chairman
*Lin Davidson, Vice-Chairman
*Larry Sharpsteen
David Hatfield
*Richard Prybyl
*Al Fiorille
* Gerald Caward
*Jonathan Kanter, Planning Consultant
* Ray Farkas (Alternate Member)
Other Staff
Lynn Day, Zoning, Code, Fire Enforcement Officer
Kathy Miller, Town Supervisor
Katrina Binkewicz, Town Board Member
Ruth Hopkins, Town Board Member
Ed LaVigne, Town Board Member
Public Present Larry Beck
Dan Konowalow
George Frantz
Other Business
Thomas Ellis, Chairperson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7:15 PM. Mr. Ellis inquired if there was anyone from the Public that would like to speak with an issue that was
not listed on the Agenda. There were none.
Chairman Ellis advised all present that he was notified by a Cargill Representative that they will begin their process to install the new shaft. They requested to know if the Planning
Board would like any further information from Cargill. Jonathan Kanter advised Mr. Ellis to have the Representative contact the Planning Office directly.
Mr. Ellis recalls someone from the public inquiring as to how the Town could allow this use in the district. According to the Town’s Land Use Ordinance, this is a permitted use.
Chairman Ellis enacted the Alternate Member to vote due to a Member being absent.
Presentation and Discussion – Draft Town of Lansing Agriculture & Farmland Protection Plan – Monika Roth, Cornell Cooperative Extension Tompkins County.
Ms. Monika Roth, of Cooperative Extension gave an overview of a proposed Agriculture Plan recently prepared. The Agriculture Committee which consists of local residents has helped come
up with this plan, as did George Frantz, Planning Consultant, Planning Board Members and Town Board Members.
The State would like to see in these plans is an identification of what farm land area are high priority to protect. In addition, the State would like to see what the general condition
of agriculture is and it is economic impact.
The Agricultural Committee has reviewed numerous data that have been collected in order to prepare this plan. Ms. Roth states within Tompkins County, Lansing has the largest agricultural
happening. Ms. Roth discussed Ag easements within the County, including a couple different ones in Lansing. Lansing has the highest prime soil quality in the County. 1/3 of the total
Ag sales in Tompkins County come from Lansing. Another item the Committee developed was a Vision Statement.
After doing a Zoning Review, George Frantz offered the following recommendations;
Have a clear definition of Agricultural
Clarify Road Side Stands vs Farm Markets
Definition of Junk needs to be amended to allow for farm scrap pile.
Ms. Roth suggested that the Town look at the guidance documents that the State has on their website. Also, the Town should make sure their definition conforms to the State’s definition
of Agricultural.
A proposed Map change was shown to all and an explanation of the changes was given by Mr. Frantz. Ms. Roth indicated to the Public this is not a final Map, only a proposed Map Plan.
It was suggested that the County Wide Ag District be delineated on the proposed Lansing Map.
Once approved at the Town Board level, it will then go before the County Agricultural and Farmland Protection Board for their recommendation to the State. Once approved by the State,
funds would be available for the local Farmers through the State PDR funding. In addition, the State will provide implementation funds for local municipalities to hire a Consultant
to integrate the changes to our zoning.
Lynn Day, Zoning Officer states he see nothing different except for the few changes the Committee made to the map with respect to adding the new district. Mr. Day suggested leaving
the majority of the Map as an RA, and then just remove certain uses from it. There is no need for an additional district.
Larry Sharpsteen states by tweaking the current zoning, and leaving the current map as is, that should take care of protecting the farmers.
Larry Sharpsteen stated for the record that he feels when an Ag Committee is enacted it should only include active farmers. Mr. Sharpsteen would encourage the Town Board be appoint
only active farmers.
Monica Roth has targeted this document going to the Town Board for final review in December and a Public Hearing in January. Larry Sharpsteen states it was agreed that an additional
Meeting with the farming community should be held prior to the Public Hearing.
Thomas Ellis felt this plan is moving way too fast. There should be several Public Meetings for further comments from the community prior to holding the final Public Hearing.
Jonathan Kanter explained the proposed Agricultural Plan will be/should be incorporated into the new Comprehensive plan when that is update. The Comprehensive will take awhile longer
to complete leaving changes can be made to the proposed Ag. Plan.
Discussion Regarding Further Revision of Site Plan Modification Thresholds for Proposed Changes of Occupancy or Use in Buildings that Have Already Undergone Site Plan Approval.
Member reviewed example material provided to them from Jonathan Kanter. It has been suggested by the Planning Department that a further amendment to the Land Use Ordinance under the
Site Plan Review process to make it clear that proposed interior changes to a building (where no exterior changes are proposed) for a use allowed in the zoning district in question,
even if the proposal involves a change of use or occupancy classification, would not have to go back to the Planning Board for review and approval, as long as the other thresholds listed
in the amendment (e.g., pertaining to drainage, parking, traffic, access, etc) would not be exceeded or triggered. The following is the proposed change;
Site Plan review and Approval Procedures
Modifications of site plans
A site plan that has received final site plan approval may be modified upon the application of the owner for such modification. Such application shall be in accordance with the provisions
of this article and the procedures applicable to such application shall be the same as are applicable to an initial application for site plan approval. Notwithstanding the foregoing,
Planning Board approval of a modification shall not be required:
(1) Construction of an addition of more than 1,000 square feet of enclosed space whether on one or more stories, The numerical criteria for the exceptions from the requirement of obtaining
Planning Board approval are an aggregate maximum (i.e., if a seven-hundred-square-foot addition is constructed without obtaining Planning Board approval pursuant to Subsection A(1) above,
construction of a second addition larger than 300 square feet would require Planning Board approval of a modified site plan; nor
(2) Construction or relocation of more than three parking spaces nor construction or relocation of any parking spaces to an area that is not adjacent to the original planned parking
area; nor
(3) Enlargement of an existing or previously approved building that involves an increase of square footage of more than 15% of the existing square footage of the existing or previously
approved building; nor
(4) Alteration of traffic flows and access nor a significant increase in the volume of traffic; nor
(5) A significant (in judgment of the Director of Planning) change in the aesthetic appearance of any structure or site plan element including landscape and lighting details from that
presented at the time of the prior approval; nor
(6) A change in the impacts of the project on surrounding properties, such as an increase in noise, water run-off, light illumination, or obstructions to views; nor
(7) Violation of any express conditions (including, without limitation, buffer zones, setback, and similar restrictions) imposed by the Planning Board in granting prior site plan approval,
or
B. If the modification does not involve a movement or shift of a location of one or more building more than two feet laterally or six inches vertically from the location or elevation
shown on the final site plan where:
(1) Such shift does not alter proposed traffic flows or access; and
(2) Such Shift does not directly violate any express conditions (including, without limitation, buffer zones, setbacks, etc.) imposed by the Planning Board in granting prior site plan
approval.
C. A demolition, or a proposed demolition, of an existing building, or of a previously approved building on a previously approved site plan, is a modification of a site plan subject
to the terms of this section.
D. Notwithstanding the other sections of this Article, Planning Board approval of a modification of a site plan shall not be required if the modification only involves the construction,
alteration, or renovations of the interior of a building, regardless of whether a change of occupancy or use is involved, and none of the threshold listed in sections A or B of this
Article are exceeded.
After discussing above (D), the Board agreed to recommend the additional Modification.
SUBDIVISION OF LAND (Exempt and Minor Subdivisions)
Members reviewed example material provided to them by Jonathan Kanter. Mr. Kanter explained in the material it clearly discusses definitions and procedures for exempt and minor subdivisions.
Both are intended to provide for expedited reviews and approvals for certain small-scale subdivisions. To qualify for the expedited procedures, both exempt and minor subdivisions include
certain conditions that must be met, including a maximum number of lots (4 or less lots) created within any consecutive 3 year period. This can create potential problems with the cumulative
aspects of subdivisions that may never have to go through Planning Board review and approval. In particular, the provisions of the Town’s Stormwater and Erosion Control law (2009) require
the preparation of a stormwater management plan and possible permanent stormwater practices for land disturbance equal to or greater than one acre. This will usually be triggered with
a 3 lot subdivision. Mr. Kanter further indicated it would make sense to amend the Subdivisions Regulations by changing the number of lots qualifying for expedited review to no more
than 2 lots and to also delete the timeframe of “within any consecutive 3 year period”, since this can worsen the cumulative impacts relating to not only stormwater, but also other impacts,
such as traffic and access to a busy road (e.g., multiple curb-cuts on State, County or local roads).
EXPIRATION OF SUBDIVISION APPROVAL
Members reviewed example material provided to them by Jonathan Kanter. Members felt there should be previsions in the Town’s Subdivision Rules and Regulations with regards to time limits
on projects that have not begun infrastructure placement or construction. Members agreed to table the discussion on this subject for a future Meeting.
Consider Approval of October 28, 2013 and November 4, 2013 Meeting Minutes.
Gerald Caward made a motion to approve the Minutes of October 28, 2013 as presented. Lin Davidson seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Alternate
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Abstain) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Lin Davidson made a motion to approve the Minutes of November 4, 2013 as presented.
Richard Prybyl seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Alternate
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Abstained) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member
Joint Meeting w/ Town Board
The Town Board would like to have a joint Meeting to go over the results of the Comprehensive Survey. The Meeting has been set for Wednesday, December 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM (for approximately
1 hour) in the Town Hall Board Room.
Consultant Position
Mr. Kanter will be leaving the Consultant position and the Lansing area in late March. He will continue to work with the Planning Board and Town Board until such time.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to adjourn the Meeting at 9:15 PM. Lin Davidson seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Gerald Caward, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Lin Davidson, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Ray Farkas, Alternate
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Al Fiorille, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Richard Prybyl, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen, Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Thomas Ellis, Member