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Re : Initial recommendations for pathways presented at September 121hh Developer' s
Conference - Preliminary Proposal by Applicant (s) Lucente Holding & Lucente Homes
for a Planned Development Area Expansion, Warren Road & Village Circle
Two Lansing Pathway Committee members (Ruth Hopkins and Jennifer Miller) met
and had a cooperative and productive meeting with Larry Fabbroni Sr . and Larry
Fabbroni Jr . on Thursday Sept 1 , to review the initial plans for the proposed
development on Warren Road .
We reviewed ways in which pathways would provide recreation for residents within
the proposed development area, ways in which pathways might benefit residents by
connecting to the longer term plans for town- wide connecting paths, and ways the
paths might provide safe passage along busy Warren Road .
1 . The pathways sketched on the plan we reviewed showed
a . paths from parking lots to the apartment buildings . These paths were
connected which will provide additional benefit of !a walking path
through the development
b . paths leading to the swimming pool and community building and to the
path that follows the east-west military lot line, and
c . paths along all the internal roads and along Warren Road .
2 . We agreed with Messrs Fabbroni that paths connecting to adjacent Town
connector paths would be beneficial to the residents . These possibilities include :
• Connection to a path that might follow the Lucente lot lines leading
toward Niemi Road for a connection to Dryden pathways . This
connection would logically extend from the eastern edge of the military
lot line . For this reason , we recommend that an easement for the Lot line
pathway be extended on the plan sketch to the edge of the development.
• Connection to Farrell Road along an easement that would be constructed
if a water line is installed leading to this development.
• Connection to a potential future pathway leading west along the same
military lot line, adjacent to the current Cardamone development on the
northern edge of this line . This connector would benefit residents by
allowing them, in the long term as the paths are developed, to walk or use
non-motorized transportation to the Town Center and to paths toward the
Lake .
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Based on this preliminary sketch and plan we recommend
1 . that the paths shown on the sketch provided be included in the
developer' s agreement as the apartments are completed, block by block,
not waiting for the community building or all of the apartments .
2 . that the expected surfaces be included in the developer' s agreement with a
suggestion that they be either asphalt or a cinder walk as described on
pages 20- 25 of the Lansing Village Greenway Plan construction
guidelines .
3 . that the pathways along Warren Rd be maintained by the developer
during the winter months allowing safe access to the bus stop .
4 . that the military lot line be extended to the eastern edge on the sketch
plan .
5 . that the developer' s agreement for this PDA include the understanding
that the Military Lot Line Path would be available to others as a
community benefit .
6 . that the Planning Board advise the Town Board and Pathways Committee
of the desire for a path easement along any water line easement to this
area .
7. that the sketch show plans for future connectors to such water line
pathway or to future connector toward Niemi Rd, but that such paths
need not be developed until such time as they would connect to the future
path .
8 . that should the apartment buildings be sold to individual owners that the
Town be given an easement to the military lot line pathway of 10' wide,
and an easement along Warren Road .
9 . that a line and easement for a foot trail (hard pack) be included on the
southern edge of the property through the existing trees and where
possible through the northern wetlands panhandle shown with trees .
These would serve as a path for residents who are ' walking dogs, or
simply out getting exercise' . Given the high density and likelihood for
many children in this area, an additional opportunity for outdoor
recreation seems warranted . Maintenance in the form of tree clipping for
this pathway could become the responsibility of the Lansing Pathways
Committee .
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Town of Lansing
Monday, September 12, 2011 7:15 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
('Denoles present)
* Nancy Loncto * Toni Ellis
* Larry Sharpsteen Lin Davidson, Chairman
Viola Miller David Hatfield
* Richard Prybyl
Jeffrey Overstrom , EIT
* Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq .
* Robert Cree, TB Liaison
Public Present
Jane Nicholson Mary Krizek
Ed LaVigne Dorothy Krizek
• Kathy Miller Robb Jetty
Connie Wilcox Andy Sciaribba
Larry Fabbroni L .J . Fabbroni
Ruth Hopkins Roger Hopkins
Carol Eastman Charles Speta
Maureen Cowan Steve Lucente
Glynnis Hart George Breuhaus
General Business
Lin Davidson, Chairperson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7: 15 PM . Mr.
Davidson requested to know if there was anyone from the Public that wished to speak
with concerns other then what was on the Agenda .
Roger Hopkins, Lansing Pathway Member advised the Board that The Finger Lakes
Trails and Greenways Conference will take place at Cornell University at the end of this
month . This will be a two day Conference focusing on connecting communities,
promoting health and strengthening local economies .
• Public Hearing - SEQR Review, Minor Subdivision (2 Flag, 1 Regular)
Applicant, Carol Eastman, 359 Munson Road, Tax Parcel # 20.4 -7.111
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Mrs . Eastman appeared before the Board for a proposed Subdivision . Legal Counsel,
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt advised the Board that after review by her and partner,
Guy Krogh, they have determined that this is a 6 Lot Major Subdivision . In addition, a
" land swap " is going to take place, not a Boundary Change . Ms . Moynihan Schmitt
states there is a waiver provision in the Town' s Subdivision Local Law which can be
applied to this action, making this a Minor 4 Lot Subdivision. It was Legal Counsel' s
recommendation to move forward with the waiver process .
ARTICLE 9 : VARIANCES AND MODIFICATIONS :
Sec . 900 . Purpose & General Requirements : The purpose of this Article is to set
forth those conditions and circumstances under which the requirements of this Local Law
may be modified or waived by the Planning Board (or, where applicable, the Town
Board) . Where the Planning Board finds that , due to the special circumstances of a
particular case , a waiver of certain requirements or procedures is justified, a waiver may be
granted . En all cases , no waiver shall be granted unless the Planning Board finds andrecords
in its minutes that : ( 1 ) granting the waiver would be keeping with. the intent and spirit of
this Local Law, and is in the best interests of the community; (2 ) there is no adverse effect
upon the character, appearance, or welfare of any neighborhood or the environment; (3)
there are special circumstances involved in the particular case ; (4) denying the waiver would
• result in undue hardship, provided that such hardship has not been self- imposed ; and (5 ) the
waiver is the minimum necessary degree of variation from the requirements of this Local
Law .
Planning Board Reply ;
1 . This prevents land locking land . It provides a method of infill in an existing
property, allows a more efficient use of the land as far as density of land that is
otherwise not suitable for Agricultural land and lastly meets the needs outside of
the Applicant/ Community .
2 . Over the past 30 years, this location has taken a shift from Agricultural to
Residential . There is no negative effect to the character of the neighborhood due
to the lots being large enough that they will not crowd anybody . The land is not
well drained, therefore, it is not good for agriculture .
3 . Special circumstances is allowing the proper infill of that land
4 . Denying Variance would result in an undue hardship, and the hardship is not
necessary self imposed . There is no other way to get to the back lots
5 . This would be the minimal waiver for this land .
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion stating the Planning Board has reviewed and met the
requirements of Article 9, Section 900 (1 -5) and now considers this an approved
• Variance for a Minor 4 Lot Subdivision . Nancy Loncto seconded the motion and it was
carried by the following roll call vote :
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• Vote of PlanningBoard
. . . ( Aye ) Thomas Ellis , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) David Hatfield , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Nancy Loncto , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Richard Prybyl , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Larry Sharpsteen , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Norman L . Davidson , Chairman
Thomas Ellis moved to recommend to the Zoning Board of Appeals that the Variance
for the longer length of the driveways be granted for the reasons stated above . Larry
Sharpsteen seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote :
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Thomas Ellis , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) David Hatfield , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Nancy Loncto , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Richard Prybyl , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Larry Sharpsteen , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Norman L . Davidson , Chairman
The Board has requested Mrs . Eastman to revise a couple items on her original
Application . Those items are the Zone / District the property is located in and # 8 where
• it says exceptions, it should be written in that the Applicant would like the Article 9,
Section 900 waiver considered for this proposal .
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to postpone the scheduled Public Hearing until after
the Zoning Board of Appeals Hearing and then place it on the earliest available
Planning Board Meeting Agenda . Richard Prybyl seconded the motion and it was
carried by the following roll call vote :
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Thomas Ellis , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) David Hatfield , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Nancy Loncto , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Richard Prybyl , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Larry Sharpsteen , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Norman L . Davidson , Chairman
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt states this proposal will require a Stormwater Review and a
SWWP. Larry Sharpsteen totally disagreed with Legal Counsels determination and
feels this is over kill . Mr . Overstrom can further consult with both Attorneys with
respect to this issue .
• Ms . Moynihan Schmitt states for the record, the proper procedure for a Subdivision
Application is outlined in Section 502 .
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• SEQR Review & Site Plan Review, Applicant,pp cant, Andrew Sciarabba, Town Barn Road,
Tax Parcel # P/O 30.-1-16. 22, Erection of a 15,000 Sq. Ft. +1- Office Building
Andy Sciarabba and George Breuhaus, P. E . appeared before the Planning Board with a
proposed Site Plan for a permitted use in the B2 District . It is the Planning Board
responsibility to dictate the setbacks and complete a SEQR .
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will be approximately a 15, 000 Sq . Ft . to house a software company that currently does
business in Cayuga County, Tompkins County and Atlanta Georgia . There will be
• approximately 75 to 100 employees, which some work out of their homes .
Mr . Breuhaus states the tenants have requested privacy for the building on the 1
property, therefore, several large trees will remain to the east . The building will be an L
shaped, with a small atrium in the middle of the building to house executive office . At
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• the request of the tenant, an outside qs de patio will be designed . Access to the site can come
from two directions on Town Barn Road . Mr . Breuhaus states he has spoken with the
Town Highway Department and they are not adverse to opening a portion of the road
coming from Peruville Road . 95 parking spaces have been allotted for with space for
expansion. As for the Stormwater, Bio Swales (large ditches that hold water) will
probably be used as the DEC has changed their view on the Stormwater ponds . The
Swales will most likely drain down to the existing pond . To date they have not been
designed .
The Planning Board is requesting the following;
• A Map from the Developer showing all four parcels .
• A Stormwater Plan
• David Herrick to review the County 239 comment on Traffic
• David Herrick to review the EAF
• Letter from Jack French regarding opening the North-South end of Town Barn Rd
• Letter from Scott Purcell, Fire Chief regarding fire access
Larry Sharpsteen states the Board is putting the cart before the horse when it comes to
the SWPPP. Mr . Sharpsteen further indicated the Board reviews the SEQR before the
Stormwater Plan . The Stormwater Plan Review comes in at the Building Permit process
• level .
Ms . Moynihan Schmitt further stated that the Planning Board is responsible for
reviewing environmental impacts, which include drainage .
The Board expressed to Mr . Sciarabba that they are in favor of the proposed plan.
D eveloper' s Conference - Preliminary Proposal by Applicant (s) Lucente
H olding & Lucente Homes for a Planned Development Area Expansion,
Warren Road & Village Circle
At the Planning Board Meeting of June 13, 2011 the Board advised Mr . Fabbroni to
return to the Board once the Sewer issues have been worked out. Larry Fabbroni, Larry
Jr. and Stephen Lucente appeared before the Board on this night. Mr . Fabbroni again
gave a brief overview of the proposed PDA expansion as follows; 174 new units will be
built for Lucente Holdings and 138 units for Lucente Homes . Currently there are 146
units in this development . As for the sewer capacity, Mr . Fabbroni provided a work
sheet he prepared based upon the history and consumption use over the last twenty
years for the current development and to include the proposed increase . In addition, a
copy of " Intermunicipal Wastewater Agreement" dated December 31 , 2003 in which six
municipalities agreed upon was included in the paperwork . Mr . Fabbroni states he met
• with Brent Cross, P. E . for the Village of Cayuga Heights and was point blank told that it
was as simple as the Town Supervisor and Town Engineer sitting down with him and
discussing the matter .
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Legal Counsel advised Mr . Fabbroni
Ms . Moynihan Schmitt stated provision 4 in the IMA is clear that any future changes or
expansions have to be based on written consent from all the parties . The Town must
approach the Villages and request to modify the agreement . Ms . Moynihan Schmitt
recommended that the David Herrick meet with Brent Cross and discuss this . Once that
is done, Mr . Herrick can provide the Town Board with his recommendation .
Nancy Loncto made a motion requesting the following;
• David Herrick make a capacity determination regarding Sewer
• David Herrick conduct a Traffic Study
• Town Supervisor & David Herrick meet with the Village of Cayuga Height' s P. E .
• Town Board provides Town Planning Board with a Resolution amending the 2010 IMA
Agreement, also in the Resolution it should indicate the amount of sewer capacity the
Planning Board may anticipate allowing for, over the next 10 years
• David Herrick review the SWPPP
• Recommendations from David Herrick returned to Planning Board within 60 days .
Larry Sharpsteen seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call
vote :
• Vote of Planning ( Aye )Board . . . ( A y ) Thomas Ellis , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) David Hatfield , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Nancy Loncto , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Richard Prybyl , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Norman L . Davidson , Chairman
Ms . Moynihan Schmitt indicated a Developer' s Agreement is in the process and should
be presented before the Town Board next Wednesday, therefore, she may now be able
to speak directly with Mr . Fabbroni .
Lin Davidson indicated the Town will need Developer' s Agreements for two current
projects (Lucente & Sciarabba) .
Approval/Denial of Minutes for:
July 25, 2011
Richard Prybyl states on page 2, second sentence, the word answers should be answer .
• Richard Prybyl
made a motion to approve as amended . Nancy Loncto seconded the
motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote :
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Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Thomas Ellis , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) David Hatfield , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Nancy Loncto , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Richard Prybyl , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Larry Sharpsteen , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Abstain ) Norman L . Davidson , Chairman
August 8, 2011
Thomas Ellis made a motion to approve as presesnted . Richard Prybyl seconded the
motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote :
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Thomas Ellis , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) David Hatfield , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Nancy Loncto , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Richard Prybyl , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Abstain ) Larry Sharpsteen , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Norman L . Davidson , Chairman
August 22, 2011
• Thomas Ellis made a motion to approve as presented . Nancy Loncto seconded the
motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote :
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Thomas Ellis , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) David Hatfield , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Nancy Loncto , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Richard Prybyl , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Abstain ) Larry Sharpsteen , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Norman L . Davidson , Chairman
Nancy Loncto moved to ADJOURN THE September 12, 2011 PLANNING BOARD
MEETING AT 9: 00 PM. Norman L . Davidson seconded the motion and it was carried
by the following roll call vote :
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) Thomas Ellis , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . ( Aye ) David Hatfield , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Nancy Loncto , Member
✓ ote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Richard Prybyl , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye) Larry Sharpsteen , Member
Vote of Planning Board . . . (Aye ) Norman L . Davidson , Chairman
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Web : www.lansingtown.com Town of Lansing
Planning Board Meeting
September 12, 2011 at 7: 15 PM
Lansing Town Hall - Large Court Rm.
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Agenda
Time: Agenda Topics
II7:15 P. M. Public Comments/ Concerns
7:20 P. M Public Hearing - SEQR Review, Minor Subdivision (2 Flag, 1
Regular) Applicant, Carol Eastman, 359 Munson Road, Tax
Parcel # 20 . -1 -7. 111
7:25 P. M . Public Hearing- Overall Application Minor Subdivision (2
Flag, 1 Regular) Applicant, Carol Eastman, 359 Munson
Road , Tax Parcel # 20 . -1 -7 . 111
7: 35 P. M . SEQR Review & Site Plan Review, Applicant, Andrew
Sciarabba, Town Barn Road, Tax Parcel # P/ O 30 . -1 -16 . 22,
Erection of a 15, 000 Sq. Ft. + / - Office Building
7:45 P. M . Developer' s Conference - Preliminary Proposal by
Applicant(s) Lucente Holding & Lucente Homes for a
Planned Development Area Expansion, Warren Road &
Village Circle
Approval / Denial of Minutes for :
• July 25, 2011
August 8, 2011
August 22, 2011