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Town of Lansing
Monday, February 14, 2011 7:15 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
('Denotes present)
Nancy Loncto Tom Ellis
* Larry Sharpsteen Lin Davidson, Chairman
Viola Miller David Hatfield
* Richard Prybyl
* Jeffrey Overstrom, EIT
* Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq.
* Robert Cree, TB Liaison
Public Present
Maureen Cowan Emma Harper Flames Maddens
Ruth Hopkin Lauralee Gattridge Donald Hamer
Roger Hopkin David Moore Marc Leathers
• Robin Masson Frankie Lechner Carol Bass
Dirk Galbraith Juliana Bass Mike Herbster
Michael Bryant Lisa Turner Joseph Steuer
Eric Fitzgerald Mike Duesing Todd Bittner
Michael Keller Natalia Emlen Bob Hillman
Connie Wilcox Vally Kovary Amanda Steinhardt
Max Steinhardt Margaret Keller Kate Mackenzie
Arch Mackenzie Susan Murphy Mary Ann Allbonesi
Mark Wheeler Lawrence Cathles Ron Seacord
Robert Leathers
General Business
Lin Davidson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7: 15 PM. Mr.
Davidson introduced the Board to the Public and made a change of order to the
Agenda .
Request for an Extension on Construction Completion, Cayuga
Way & Lakeview Subdivision, Grandview & Tiger Lily Lane, Tax
• Parcel # 40.-3-28.2 & 40. -3-28.1
Attorney Mark Wheeler appeared before the Board requesting a 3 year extension
on the above two Subdivisions that were previously approved in November
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III2007. Mr . Wheeler further states due to the economic crisis, lending facilities are
less likely to lend large amounts of money for project of this magnitude.
Larry Sharpsteen felt the 3 year request was too long and it would be in the best
interest of the Town to go with 18 months .
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to approve the request for an extension of 18
months commencing on May 14, 2011 and terminating on November 14, 2012 .
Richard Prybyl seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Richard Prybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
III Future Working Meeting-Workshop
Chairman Davidson expressed to the Members that he would like to schedule a
Workshop on Liability issues related to Trails and Playgrounds. Mr. Davidson
will invite an Insurance Agent, a local Attorney and a DEC Personal.
Discussion/Presentation of Waldorf School; Set Public Hearings,
Eastlake Road, Tax Parcel # 42.-1-54.1
Robert Leathers gave a brief overview of the Eastlake PDA. Mr. Leathers
indicated that he and Cheryl Nickel chose the PDA route as it is a way to have
flexibility and imaginative solutions within the zoning district. The Eastlake
Recreation Building has provided the imaginative solution to the Community by
permitting the recreational birthday parties, playground and tennis courts to the
public .
Erin Fitzgerald, Director of the Ithaca Waldorf School, gave a brief overview of
the School and their teaching philosophy. Currently the School offers grades K
through 5th with approximately 55 students, with the hopes to expand . Ms.
Fitzgerald has begun making a list of the concerns and addressing them with the
neighbors of Eastlake.
Todd Bittner, Chairman of Campus Planning Committee presented a copy of the
proposed Site Plan and explained the needs and goals of the School . The
following are items that will need to be considered;
ID1 . A new parking lot for 40 cars to include handicap ones .
2. An area for busses to pull off road and turn around .
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• 3 . Additional bathrooms ( 16 ' x 30' expansion to existing building)
4 . Emergency egress
5 . Structured and non structured playground area
6. Separation from age groups
7. Aging Septic System
8 . Stormwater Management
Mr. Bittner states the School faculty, staff and neighbors of the Community have
met with Mr. Leathers and have tried to integrate their concerns in this plan. A
wooden fence will be placed around the perimeter of the school . All uses on the
west side of the property will be diverted adjunct to the school . A second
entrance will be added to separate the age group of the children.
Chairman Davidson read the following;
The present application before the Planning Board appears to be a request,
pursuant to Lansing Land Use Ordinance Section 706. 10, for
change/ modification to a PDA. However, because the proposed modification
includes a change of land use to include educational purposes and a private
school, Section 707. 10 . 1 requires a new PDA application.
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The original application and the in-house site plan will also need to be amended
given the new information now available respecting the instant application.
Because the PDA is already in existence and the modification is the sole request
for the one change of use, the process can be expedited and the public comment
period deemed already commenced . Because of the concerns of the neighbors,
the chair has determined that public hearing is appropriate and shall be
scheduled for the Planning Board' s working meeting on February 28, 2011 .
Preliminary review of the project can be conducted by the Planning Board on
February 14, 2011 . Final site plan review, SEQR review and vote on whether to
recommend the proposal to the Town Board is slated to be scheduled for the
February 28, 2011 Planning Board meeting. Since the Town Board is the agency
making the final approval, the Town Board shall be charged with the final SEQR
determination. The Planning Board should review the LEAF and advise the
Town Board of any areas of environmental concern.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to set the Public Hearing (s) for the following
dates and time;
• February 28, 2011
• • 7:40 PM - Public Hearing - SEQR
• 7:50 PM - Public Hearing - Overall Application for Modification to
Eastlake PDA to modify use for educational purposes
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• Thomas Ellis seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Richard Prybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt requested clarification to know if the change of use
would be a constraint to the four acre parcel (lot 19) and not the entire PDA. Ms.
Masson advised yes. The two Attorneys will work together to amend the
Application.
Joseph Steuer, Agent for The Ithaca Waldorf School indicated they are not
willing to give up their long term lake rights as this could financially impact
future sale of the property .
• Thomas Ellis questioned whether a full size school buses could get in and turn
around without any problems. Mr. Bittner advised the turning radius has been
designed for standard school buses .
Larry Sharpsteen requested that the proposed Site plan be submitted to the Fire
Department and the Highway Department for their comments prior to the Public
Hearing of February 28, 2011 .
Jeff Overstrom advised all present that the Code Enforcement Office will be
performing by-annual Safety inspections of the interior of the building. An
alarm system will be a hook in to the fire department as oppose to a sprinkler
system.
Additional comments/ concerns via Public/ emails/ letters
1 . Tot Lot areas re: noise to neighbors, buffering, septic
2. Lake use issue
3 . School fit to the neighborhood
4 . Traffic (in & out)
5 . Property values
6 . Safety (Fire & rescue)
7. Loss of tax revenue
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Mike Herbster, Tennis Coach for Lansing, Trumansburg and Ithaca College
stated buses can get in and out of the property with no problem. Mr. Herbster
feels the children in the community need this Tennis court to continue running.
The Waldrof School representatives have advised Mr. Herbster that they will
continue to rent out the tennis court space.
Mike Duesing, Representative for the Homeowners Association states they have
not taken a position for or against the Waldorf School, however, the Association
does feel there is a process issue that should be resolved first. To date there has
not been a Meeting with all three groups (Neighbors, Waldrof School and Design
Board) .
Amanda Steinhardt inquired if the Town Board approved the modifications,
would they leave the residents in Eastlake to fend for themselves with respect to
the covenants' . In addition, Ms . Steinhardt has great concerns with the
possibility of increased traffic as the result of trying to access the lakefront via the
lot owned by the homeowner's .
Ms. Moynihan Schmitt expressed that she believed the original PDA included
the covenants.
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Todd Bittner expressed to the Board that timing is an issue with respect to
enrollment for the private school . The process begins at this time of year for
recruitment of students in order to establish their budget. The school needs a
location in order to start this process.
Bob Hillman pointed out that the covenants allow for additions to the recreation
center with permission from the Design Committee . However there is a separate
covenant with respect to the use of that building which is very specific and states
recreation. Mr. Hillman has not formed an opinion on the School as of yet.
Robin Masson, Attorney for Robert Leathers states the current Design Committee
consists of Cheryl Nickel, Robert Leathers and Matthys Van Cort.
Robert Leathers expressed his disappointment with some of the neighbors of
Eastlake. Mr. Leathers states he has worked with them for the last 2 months
trying to find out and work out their concerns to find a solution.
Susan Murphy expressed concerns over who to believe when it comes to not
using the lakefront property/ dock. According to Ms . Murphy, The Waldorf
• School has assured her that they have no intentions of using it, however, their
Agent made it publicly known they will not give up their rights to it. Until such
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• time that a decision is put in writing, Ms. Murphy cannot make a decision on
whether she is in favor or not.
Thomas Ellis states the recreational building was originally a benefit to the
immediate community and therefore allowed in the PDA . Mr. Ellis has concerns
with the School expanding and the recreational facility being over taken by the
School needs . Mr. Ellis would like to see the community protected .
Larry Cathles, a Member of the Lansing Recreational Pathway Committee
presented the following
Delivered orally 2 - 14-2011 at the Lansing Planning Board meeting by Larry
Cathles, a resident of Lansing and member of the Lansing Recreational
Pathways Committee.
With regard to the discussion about the proposed modification to the East
Lake PDA and the landscape design .
We wish to let the Planning Board know that we've talked with the applicant
• and know they are willing to consider an easement with the town for a future
safe pedestrian pathway along the busy highway. Understandably this
footpath might not be necessary unless access to a bus stop or a non-
motorized path along East Shore becomes desirable.
Such an easement meets the special criteria established by Town Ordinance
for PDA's as outlined in section 706 Namely, in the long run, this would
provide the kind of benefits possible in a PDA by giving the local
community future safe passage along East Lake.
Thomas Ellis inquired if this would become a tax exempt property.
Roger Hopkins inquired if the loss of tax revenue was really a Planning Board
issue.
Larry Sharpsteen advised Mr. Hopkins that the Planning Board has been advised
in the past by legal counsel that the protection of property values are a function
of the town.
Public Comments/ Concerns via emails :
• From : James G . Johnston/Linda Mack
109 Eastlake Road
It is our understanding that the issue of use of Lot 19, Eastlake Road is to be reviewed by the
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• Fanning Beard and Zoning Board while we will be out of country. We are aware that the
current owner, Robert Leathers, would like to convey this property to the Waldorf School for
their purposes of conducting educational programs fcr children in grades K-5 .
What seems to be in question , raised by some of the home owners of the Eastlake
Homeowners Association , is the right of Mr. Leathers to sell his property to any party whose
planned use of the site would vary from its R- 1 designation except for anything other then
recreational usage . The property is currently used as a recreational club and offices .
It appears that a variance has been given to Mr. Leathers to use this lot purposes other than
R-1 , e . g . , strictly residential . What is not dear is whether educational purposes , combined
with recreational activities for students, would vary from the existing variance already
granted .
As change usually creates tensions the change of use of Lot 19 has asked all of the residents
of Eastlake to examine their concerns of usage change . The many obvious questions have
been raised concerning traffic, safety, noise; property values and the obvious permitted use
of Lot 19 .
As members of the Eastlake community we support the proposed change of use of Lot 19
from recreational and office us : to one of elementary education for children . We feel this
change Wi ! ! be a : .w-impact solution for the use of an unusual property, which has been used
for years for other than R- 1 purposes . . Further, should this proposition not move forward as
proposed it viiil come before your body again , as surely there will be other p~oposals that wi! I
impact the local landowners because it is unlikely Lot 19 will be sought by a party vino wishes
to demolish the existing facility to construct a residential home .
• As friends of Mr. Leathers , we do have some concern for the financial hardship for him . We
feel he is choosing to convey this property to a use that is in keeping with his vision for our
Eastlake community.
We urge you to consider the use changes you have approved in the past and favorably
support the proposed change of use from the current commercial recreational and office use
to that of an educational enterprise .
Thank you for your consideration . James Johnston and Linda Mack, 109 Eastlake Road ,
itnaca , NY 14850 .
GUTTMAN & WALLAC E
ATTORNEYSATLAW
411 North Tioga Street
ITHACA, NEW YORK 14850
607-272-2102
CHARLES GUTTMAN FAC siIli t. ,
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RICHARD M . WALLACE Service oipape,t by fax not accepted.
February 7, 2011
Mir. Jeff Overstroin
Engineering & Planning Coordinator
29 Auburn Road
• Lansing, New York 1 882
Dear Mr. Overstrorn :
I am the attorney-in -fact for Osman and Ayda Yurekli , who are the
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• owners of property at 34 East Lake Road in the " own of Lansing, which
property is pari of the East Lake Development. Mr. and Mrs . Yurekli have
been advised that there is a proposal which apparently going to the Town of
Lansing Planning Board on February 14, 2011 , and to the Town Board on
February 16 , 2011 , to permit Lof 19 in the Ea.stiake Development to be used
for a school and to grant site plan approval . Mr. and Mrs . Yurekli are
currently out of the country and will be out of thc country on those dates .
They have requested that 1 f orward their concerns to the Town and
specifically request that these concerns be presented to the Planning Board
and to the Town Board .
Mr. & Mrs . Yuredi bought their property in February of 2009 . Their
house is currently right behind the recreational center r ,ter located on Lot 19.
When they were locking at this house and decided to purchase this
house, the location and the quietness of the neighborhood was a major factor
for them . They were aware of the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions
of the Eastlake Development, which had been adopted in August 1988, as
well as the First Amendment to the Declaration cfCovena.nts and
Restrictions which was adopted in lune 2007 .
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The Recreation Center Building was designed in a way that it had
• minimal impact on 'Thrall ' s house. in fact, it has served as a buffer between
their house and Last Shore give.
The Yurkelis are concerned that if the use of this lot is changed from
recreational use to a school , that there will be significant adverse affects to
their property.
:t is their understanding that the plans involve a deck being built
facing their house and, in addition, playground facilities will be constructed
facing their house. They are concerned that this will cause adverse affects
with regard to privacy and noise.
xn addition , as far as they are aware, there is nothing which would
limit the size of a school established there and having a school itself would
adversely affect their property in terms of privacy and noise.
The Yurkelis are also concerned about the intersection of Eastlake
Road and Route 34 . Putting a school there would significantly increase
traffic and potentially cause safety issues .
The lots in the development also have access to the lake. There are
concerns about what access the school would have to the lake and potential
liability issues .
The Yurkelis understood when they were purchasing the property that
the development would be limited to recreational use. A change from just
recreational use to allow a school would, in their opinion, adversely affect
• their use and enjoyment of their property and they believe would adversely
affect their property values .
February 7 , 2011
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respectfully request that these thoughts be presented to the Planning
Board and to the Town Board . if you need anything further from me, please
advise.
Very truly yours,
Chtma '
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Cc : Osman Yurelcii
1:car � r : . . .
The hour was late when i sent out the first email . This morning I realized that some
wording was incorrect . Please accept myapologies. The correspondence should have
read as follows:
Don and ! would like to go on record as supporting the pan for the new Ithaca Waldorf
school to purchase the cast Lake Recreation Center in Lansing.
We have beer following the rx cess of tl- e Waldorf planning committee. Many hours of
planning, meetings with residents to address :<n iaY : 5 and money have be invested .
Great effort has gone into the planning ; or the use ut this site so the neighbors will not be
inconvenienced . I hope that the Planning Board will keep their commitment for the
hearing scheduled for February 14th . Thanks for your time and consideration . We can be
reached for question at ( 607) 533 -4248 .
Emma and Don v re 105 Auburn Rd . , Lansing, NY .
Chairman Davidson advised the Public that Eastlake will again be on the
February 28, 2011 Agenda. Hopefully the residents can work together with Bob
Leathers & Cheryl Nickel to work out several outstanding issues .
Set Public Hearing for SEQR Review & Preliminary Plat Approval,
Lansing Commons Subdivision, Cayuga Vista Drive, Tax Parcel #
37.1 -2-53.222, T. Ronald Seacord, Applicant
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to set the following Public Hearing;
1 . Public Hearing for SEQR Review at 7: 20 PM
2. Public Hearing for SEQR determination at 7:25 PM
3. Public Hearing on Final Preliminary Plat at 7:30 PM
4. Public Hearing on overall consideration of the Lansing Commons
Subdivision at 7:35 PM .
Richard Prybyl seconded.
. VOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
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• David Hatfield - Aye
Richard Prybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
Approval /Denial Minutes of: January 24, 2011
Thomas Ellis made a motion to approve the Minutes of January 24, 2011 as
presented . David Hatfield seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Richard Prybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
• David Hatfield made a motion to adjourn the Meeting at 8 :57. Richard Prybyl
seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Richard Prybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
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Planning Board Meeting
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Agenda Amended
• Time: Agenda Topics
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7:15 P.M. Public Comments / Concerns
7:20 P.M. Proposed Modification to Eastlake PDA to Include
Educational Purposes and Private School- Preliminary
Review of Application to Amend PDA to Include
Educational Purposes and Waldorf School; Set Public
Hearings for SEQR and Site Plan Review on PDA
Modification and Waldorf School Site Plan, Proposed Ithaca
Waldorf School, Eastlake Road, Tax Parcel # 42 . - 1 -54 . 1 ;
Ithaca Waldorf School, Applicant, Joseph Steuer, Agent,
Cheryl Nickel & Robert Leathers, Owners
7:25 P. M . Set Public Hearing for SEQR Review & Preliminary Plat
Approval, Lansing Commons Subdivision, Cayuga Vista
Drive, Tax Parcel # 37. 1 -2-53 . 222, J. Ronald Seacord,
Applicant
7:30 P.M. Discussion-Request for 3 Yr . Extension, Cayuga Way
• Subdivision, Grandview & Tiger Lily Lane, Tax Parcel # 40 . -
3-28 . 2 & 40 . -3-28 . 1
7 : 35 P. M. Approval / Denial PB Minutes of: January 24, 2011