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Town of Lansing
Monday, September 27, 2010 7: 15PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
* Nancy Loncto * Tom Ellis
* Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson, Chairman
Viola Miller David Hatfield
Richard Prybyl
* Jeffrey Overstrom, EIT
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq .
* Robert Cree, TB Liaison
Public Present
Andy Sciarabba
Roger Hopkins
• Donald Poch
George Breuhaus
Dan Veaner
General Business
Lin Davidson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7: 15 PM . Mr .
Davidson inquired if there was anyone from the Public that would like to speak
to the Board with issues other than the Agenda items .
Lansing Recreational Pathway Committee
Roger Hopkins, Spokesperson for The Lansing Recreational Pathway Committee
appeared before the Planning Board and read aloud the following prepared
statement;
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APPROVED
• f_bmments eubmifitxf by Lansing Recreational Pathway Committee to the Lansing
'town Planning Board on 9-2.7-2010
In our role its a Lansing sin. g Ttown. citizen advisory group we have reviewed the proposal for a
grocery store on Triphammer Road and are recommending that the proposed
developmentinclude a provision ter .sale pedestrian RIOncn�tidorizeii irar spunation
:xces : to the, gmeery s1+7rr pond Iortb North Triphammer and Town Barn Road. We do
nui believe this can be accommodated on the shoulder of the mad since thisproperly it
betwccn two busy intersections, with heavy truck trsilie.
We realize that the town is in prone of constructing specifications for pafr urian
w lkwitys and urge consideration that would accormoo a.te $ feat wide beyond than
shoulder iii the k ng.:f tetra, perhaps with grass inbeitwit.
We have spoken with Andy Sciarabha shout our recommendation and &until a tweet%
to dis tts3 ways to make this a pathway that extends to the interscccautt of Trijahanmter
and 3411 for future pedestrian croS:dngs it that busy intersection.
vVleilc the population density at the currant time i• not grana, thia py u kc-y intersection for
the town of Lansing Avid will rettiiire safe access by pedestrians and nun-motorized
transport in the future.
Our recommendation this evening is in line with section #3 and 05 of the Town's
Comprehensive Plan as well as the. 4Tewn"s subdivision regulations, sec.SO.i , that
designate .5% of the total area fiirpurpt es Such as this.
Such access will also provide critical links to the ;future niitt,any,ioriz0 otator t;rttiJs
for pedtiians and rtUibtttotori7.ec'i trails in .Larising us approved by the Town Board .lati
week
• Nancy Loncto stated she met with Jeff Overstroln and a couple Members of that
committee last week . Ms . Loncto presented a copy of the Committee ' s prepared
Resolution that was presented to the Town Board at their last Meeting .
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APPROVED
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Proposal to ' own St aril from. the Lansing Recreational
Pathways Coriitn !tee ( ,. RPC]
Septi.Mtbcr 13, ,701 (F
't,hr.ninc..f h, the 1 giatitrig R.Crtr$1ional Paths\ .iis (Vim ittct'. Maureen Couort, Clio if, I,,)itl
Iia+,e, . t.asxTCatir; (..:11111e%. KIR id t Icn ck , Ranh R. ger I topkins. 11.eun.ie SunsteJ,
1 ,1ndst \Vtl:d is Z, nlCtntk rti.
WC PA ,libi to thptd. The rn r r Hoard for ripyws irn the inititd prl:uis for our grtiInp iU!t) .5upi citing. our
groins bs .t Looting citizen coinbntustie . We bate been working hard it, preptre and prkrritize plc tail x
rc ilr !reli hi leap the. Iowa inch i;SRva d with pithssi ys.
Cho din past iin'inits rue ha , c continued to tatFe ' then intron by ta&ti t air itb 10110 anaund thu
tt:n.n and by talking with futits al ll:}rI;$ ,r Y C%I arIJ SL' vent Ltitsiwy, ]/nhi!C tmutads, \t1y ,:c I tiriieij
that rails Ittt Iriyitl} d1.ir41, t14a1 111.4Ytr citizens itpirtp;.ratc the value they bring 50 the eotrnit,Init} and
rtseopnrle the I:tee-inky t.el pl.annin t' :Wit securing access ori$ti .Iilr.rtt�lt-intaitiri'Icd afloat Hata a n1id
rws;retltiion INC 1.10.1t4. ar. tit lona develops.
1t e— c learned tfial lawnF ncrtcxs tite eaanetti ate rvo rgt itcrig the imp inaitze olid Laine of liantf,altt5
trod .multi UM: findsand tire mo+ ; ILI 't{ncn:$ly tit deerk,r them, In fact, tears Ste .rum other tt,wns
tax truilr increase titiuliig Cif ace within floc crim auiisy" and ts'henquality of9ifp itlprcacti, co in
tr vpertt ratucal
1t c ce toIied about the Meantri` 41 trnrlt paved rvuhi use cri;rln 7fl a Ii' its„ trails for sk:itufriorils
hrk.rti. en41 r;tl i;IN. sill non-otenoti!gest itaicduinisnrs of transportation, 1A'illtiin (!AIT calbritititX7 w . '\ t!
I101110J ratltwta5 to meanfiriatai ppwet et! ' roue¢tet:talion of' recrtbde.tal us; routes ;oftwo prunn.fy
rr ]ts. thn c tll:a. a.rt, simply futtyrittlis and those that are riac'n multi lute trails. ,o uc! i.trit•, paned .
We ha r ' also spent rnllnv motors rtseanaiIng mein i tl pa:thwati, POILIC4, wC'rktsJ weih. Lite (Amnia'
I ntitlipurtit itrn t, ouneil sor itikti ur noacula. pti1hwnv rataps: amtndxi Tran cprtaliett Council lnectint'i.
;10 strvnglken out nes ler torture t` tiritipnrtatitti fnntint.ug ttttxsthillties, regnsimteJ Lansing in !hc.
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• Al icniryl ir,3f I tiny eventsand Ibitel '?with pstieniial grant make/itas we etrittnl -:itel ,t an nfonrial ion on
landing ls.s■ ibrl ILLIs.
Hated r:•n what werx learned we Mick!!cic trails m cl to be a.lartt)r>ity poli 4the town's planning
prttccs. !has <atr cImurnunnti can, ,terl]r hitt btrief I5 oittiuts bb the future, We belicvt: that ttratl;i rtea
to b fn6toted tato he born dcsigret, nittt hail bete, and tights ni w.cty ntt_>d to be pit of the (twin
plartr.,in1,!, ;!nd p trmgtnF tttt' -r s,
`so, IM/ AE dr• wr. tHr Litt. '
i . k1'v need to incl talc trail'; ii' tate land use planning and 44.etopitioitt pcJtfli:jl(;l. piste ;c5.
2. We now tai et Ire Livor ttnif, rb C.ONNht." VINO `net ttftsai13 and footpaths for teurispnrttlticlb
!NW, bs ,.tisx-tih in the pinning imitates twirl her wctirkittg Willi witting landoveiters.
tis
e :pre hen' Iki'i �stntitt ler let that the 9 Aiilsing I owls 1,3tlard dale the f .i nvui.irg itIIil tg,
t ask the I owl) isoard to .}gree that ci ati deSitablc to dcvel:sp a cenr ptit,7tt tmi I titrwcab
Win uuide and pt t:.iiib 4 anti' iwt]Vish .,n of trail rights cif way in the disc rsti}itln5 the town 'wilt
hose with IanJ. t iters and cletit3oiuo, seho %mit to tkwzt rp Rand., and we risk uta! the Town
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APPROVED
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Iti !'vt c11.ai c it x Lkl'l t:, deaulop :welt a cclnctptuul plan and motility a on it oiNtiirtuitta
& lath . ti rizrhr of timy itre S4 ootid,
We- a kthe '€ c'wn litorcl tf utrtlinrwn
#ltt i h,l't to 11fl5r, initial tlt+ctIst,ratUw with a,6ldrtrg.
Iii.ndowucr. +the+! tic I R. fit ' sttlbtatit% p04.4 c Gttihttti the '1awl' Flttardhod the ror>.nn F:turrit
apnea:Rci: thin thc"rti trails! are devimltie
a. 'We tot ha:xt ;1t this !.into; lint die tt own Ward ctixlr rnha tar'o trai i sF* tMSt Ulm . aft
plf ICCUr1 tri t !wail) a11t1' tse-uitt 41. Ir `'it'a ti it id, 1vt11111 + l ti{jlR?l9"ttCt`i. I bine aii
>a Frail 10 e+,atim;t,v dti l'Aatyr# centitr "%Peri to the shoots tuid Fvl.vim
Park until F .a:i tt.ruarei \,tralviart :att;l on in the .Jensen Lin.eiopinrllt.
uattl
u UtiIC in omitted the Toni Centel South fit the Sit. Park. the
\ itIna and dic i, 1! of IU:tracA tn4 Nttrth to town Janda,
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We us/t this lout, Baud time VD t4.1 prooffaty ih +y'iit ;fins with ISA,:. in etenjuni tiin
with lhatllrr+*°Itiri Inn SUM carr,+: nas, and tc, aupportivcly addrea5 futon I'ssue/ of
huh t( Ai+ atird aw inten n e should the Mint aEct ids k 1 t n,'eingt, the !enols,
3 We an Llai the Town Hoard h,i pnmctivc ist rrhtninina a ctnsh_alid r$gIat?. of wa> s t,-r pathway's
in all neer aiihnlit i:uirris 4 in lrriliterj, dcceknctrieict:., ani( PDA 's %We a%L the Town ttr d rltis
1.zb t rtctr illg us aG c;=tai tat t„t,nrk!ttr ly tit liar! t Mena pit nniuK rnvitw mid permitting lasricc nus,
St:CO. itatli, , 44t ask that the l..li.l't id :SOliCiied Ib dtctcnruernhoirins lot poll; ways in !talc![
th tchatufrui that GXt2t1C`i Meliatse!lie tialvo '%kW potiitiitiniit, 81 tdm;.(e'yelopnt,.i;tttival (li'A'6ilkt i IIA.?.1i
Mat a major connecting tivatr. 1 t uYk t1113 tt nteeti> ie faults!l th i viditpttr* at td the I .Fklrt " he
required in ontir l' nu: line iht 01%444 Ft t tictag ,B cietc mctuki for rotate trail d`weltipnent.
4. y rr ask the tow a to otmlitauy !!tiff!' supinnrt Ibi visit funding Minh pulls 1:iccorale trnztiluplt CO
de% c loop thy 'f wn Center truilhetd i'n1in the Tinkrt flail tri irl dge, the pnaJeci begun lay Sievc
Cog tu.c y'niirs ata,,
F'*t Ott;, ilirute the Ann e preitemh, c tetizr,;tt that. Chi .Fuayn E1t7arrf.
• tel : su;gIt .t rc prenni native from IIIC Town [fool ha rskrve Its Sl liitihon 10 Irk !' awl 10 & c1 ila*
wing .iiiet a 4itatts .
ttj Fna, ut`t tltt" ttrwnt !lamming Ot e tri i€urtif) IRPC ft! ;all ilium ing Board packs am/ tri mtkke
,`spies r.f 1NcLt.4a ta% sijritiie to 1 ,13PC apom rryue-.t,
l Cream UM. rtt:e4VICt rCaidinittrl ferrkW. ti WW1/4i tWiltrOV31 tltlltwin lithri pant}ti up+. ie,
The Town Board offered the following Resolution;
RESOLUTION APPROVING LANSING RECREATIONAL PATHWAYS COMMITTEE REPORT
AND RECOMMENDATIONS
AND IMPLEMENTING POLICIES REGARDING THE SAME
At a Regular Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Lansing, held in and for the
Town of Lansing at the Lansing Town Hall on 15th day of September, 2010, the following
members were present and voting throughout :
A . Scott Pinney, Supervisor;
Robert Cree, Councilperson ;
Kathy Miller, Councilperson ; and
Connie Wilcox, Councilperson .
• The following Town Board members were absent : Martin Christopher, Councilperson .
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APPROVED
• The following Resolution was duly presented for consideration by the Town Board :
WHEREAS, the Lansing Recreational Pathways Committee ( " LRPC" ) has reviewed and
developed proposals and plans to begin implementation of the first phases of
developing pathways for pedestrians, bicycles, and other non - motorized modes of travel
in and around the Town of Lansing; and
WHEREAS, the LRPC had gathered citizen input and determined that walking and
recreational trails are highly beneficial to the Town and its residents ; and the Town
Board so agrees and declares the creation of planned pathways as being in the public
interest; and
WHEREAS, the LRPC has spent many hours researching potential pathway routes,
worked with the County Transportation Council to prepare concept pathway maps,
attended Transportation Council meetings to strengthen ties to future transportation
funding possibilities, represented Lansing in the National Trail Day events, and met with
potential grant makers relative to pathway development within the Town of Lansing;
and
WHEREAS, the LRPC has communicated and proposed policies and procedures to
. integrate the consideration of pathways in the Town of Lansing as part of the planning
and other processes relating to land development, zoning, and other areas of law; and
WHEREAS, upon review and discussion of the matter the Town Board of the Town of
Lansing has hereby
RESOLVED AND DECLARED , that the development of pathways, and the consideration of
pathways, be and hereby are deemed and held to be in the public interests of the Town
of Lansing and its citizens ; and it is further
RESOLVED , that the Town Board directs that its various Department Heads consider
pathways in their projects, assess the viability and benefits of pathways in their
deliberations, and consult with the LRPC for input and advice as to the inclusion ,
funding, construction , and approval of pathways as part of their deliberations and
permitting processes ; and it is further
RESOLVED , that the Town Board asks that the Planning Board consider implementing
pathways in site plan reviews, PDA reviews, subdivision reviews, and in other applicable
areas, to assess the viability and benefits of the same in their deliberations, and consult
with the LRPC for input and advice as to the inclusion , funding, construction , and
approval of pathways as part of their deliberations and approval processes ; and it is
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• RESOLVED , that the Town Board further charges the LRPC with developing a conceptual
and interconnected trail and pathway system , and to periodically review and update the
same , by and for the Town of Lansing, and work with the Town and its Officials and
Boards to implement and fund the same , whether through grant funding or otherwise ;
and it is further
RESOLVED , that the Town Board hereby endorses two proposed trails and directs the
LRPC to proceed to identify and begin discussions with willing landowners and find and
propose funding opportunities for the same ; such initial pathways being described
generally as follows : ( i ) . a trail to connect the Town Center West to the schools and
Myers Park and East toward Xtra Mart and on to the Jensen development; and ( ii ) a trail
to connect the Town Center South to the Skate Park, the Village of Lansing and the City
of Ithaca , and North to, town lands; each as shown upon the preliminary conceptual
maps submitted to the Town Board ; and it is further
RESOLVED , that the policies of the Town shall be amended and implemented to require
that the Officials and Departments of the Town consider pathways and solicit input and
opinions from the LRPC relative to pathways in each development, permit, and project
undertaken for consideration or permitting; and the Town Board further requests that
the Planning Board assign a liaison to the LRPC ( or accept a LRPC liaison to work with the
Planning Board , as an advisor ), work with and consider the recommendations of the
• LRPC relative to projects throughout the Town of Lansing, particularly those projects
near a major connecting route, and consider meeting with the LRPC, and requiring
developers to meet with the LRPC, to address and discuss pathways as a part of projects
and permits within the Town of Lansing; and it is further
RESOLVED , that the Planning Department notify LRPC whenever a new project, such as a
PDA, site plan , special permit, or subdivision , comes before the Department or the
Planning Board so that LRPC may review and consider the same and make
recommendations to the Town , its Officials, and its Boards, regarding the same ; and it is
further
RESOLVED , that the Town Supervisor, and /or the Deputy Supervisor, be and each is
hereby empowered to take such further actions to implement this Resolution as are
permitted by law .
The question of the adoption of such proposed Resolution was duly motioned by Connie
Wilcox, duly seconded by Kathy Miller, and put to a roll call vote with the following
results :
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye ) Robert Cree, Councilperson
• Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye ) Kathy Miller, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye ) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye ) A . Scott Pinney, Supervisor
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Accordingly, the foregoing Resolution was approved , carried , and duly adopted .
Larry Sharpsteen inquired how 250 ' of sidewalk out in the middle of no where,
with no other sidewalk within a mile do any good for anybody ?
Nancy Loncto indicated you have to start somewhere and this is a start . If you
don ' t start, then you will never have it when the population, traffic and demand
require it due to dangerous conditions .
Roger Hopkins states the Town has agreed to pay $ 180,000 for the rights to a
piece of land across the road from the ball parks which they have indicated
would be the town center . Mr . Hopkins feels the town should start planning
now for that . The 8 ' that the pathway committee is requesting is only a plan, and
by no means are they requesting or demanding that a sidewalk be put in now by
the Developer . Mr . Hopkins further indicated it would be much cheaper for the
town now, then after the fact .
Mr . Hopkins thanked the Board for their time .
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Approval /Denial of Minutes for: July 12, 2010, August 9, 2010 and
August 23, 2010
July 12, 2010
Thomas Ellis requested on page 21 under : Further Resolved , # 2 the word is
should be his
Due to Nancy Loncto and Larry Sharpsteen not being in attendance for this
Meeting, they will be abstaining leaving the motion denied . It was the consensus
of the Board to place them on the next Agenda .
August 9, 2010
Thomas Ellis requested on page 15 , under Lin Davidson, the word room should
read road .
Thomas Ellis made a motion to approve as amended . Larry Sharpsteen
seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
Nancy Loncto - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
• Lin Davidson - Aye
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APPROVED
• MOTION CARRIED .
September 13, 2010
Due to Nancy Loncto and Larry Sharpsteen not being in attendance for this
Meeting, they will be abstaining leaving the motion denied . It was the consensus
of the Board to place them on the next Agenda .
Site Plan & SEQR Review — Lansing Associates Independent
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Mr . Andrew Sciarabba appeared before the Board with his Architect, George
Breuhaus and presented the above site plan. Mr . Sciarabba states he intends on
building a masonry 14,000 sq . ft retail full service food market . 2,000 sq. ft of that
will be the delivery portion located in the direction of the North . The delivery
access will be made from the Town Barn Road . The customer access will be a 24
ft . wide, two lane driveway from North Triphammer Road . There will be plenty
of parking, also three-four (3-4) handicap spaces on site . There will be no parking
up next to the store . The store will be open 7 days per week from 8 : 00 AM to 9 : 00
PM. There will be two (2) Bathrooms ( 1 Men & 1 Women) . Two signs will be
erected . One sign will display messages regarding happenings in the Town . Mr .
Sciarabba would like the construction to begin December 1 , 2010 in order for an
opening date in May or June of 2011 .
Mr . Sciarabba states he spoke with a Pathway Committee Member today
• regarding land for sidewalks or pathways . Mr . Sciarabba is not opposed to
allowing for this infrastructure in his plans, however, there are a lot of unknowns
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• at this time with respect to maintenance, compensation for the property and so
forth and he does not want that to hold up his project .
Thomas Ellis inquired if a Fire Truck could enter the driveway with no problems .
Mr . Breuhaus indicated there should be no problem . Mr . Ellis also inquired
about adding an additional fire hydrant on Triphammer Road .
Lin Davidson has great concerns with the layout of the proposed customer access
driveway due to the placement of it . Mr . Davidson feels the Developer should
consider hiring a Traffic Engineer due to the volume of traffic currently on
North Triphammer Road .
A brief discussion took place with respect to possibly adding an additional exit
to the north, coming out on Town Barn Road .
Jeff Overstrom advised the Members that a short SEQR should be fine .
The following items are required before final approval ;
1 . Lighting Plan
2 . Fire Department Review
3. Comment from the Tompkins County Highway Division
4 . Stormwater Plan
It was the consensus of the Board that they will accept any dimensional changes
with respect to the sidewalks and or pathways with out requiring the Developer
to go through the whole Site Plan Review Process again .
Nancy Loncto made a motion to daccept the above agreement and set Public
Hearing(s) on the Application and SEQR for Monday, October 25 , 2010 at 7: 20
PM . Larry Sharpsteen seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
Nancy Loncto - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED .
Training
Nancy Loncto suggested that all three Boards consider hiring a trainer who is
specialized in easements and other issues with respect to pathways come in and
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• Planning Board Alternate Position
Nancy Loncto stated she spoke with resident, Kip Kersat and he would be
interested in the Planning position. Ms . Jacobsen will send him out an
Application .
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to adjourn the Meeting . Lin Davidson
seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS : .
Thomas Ellis - Aye
Nancy Loncto - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED .
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