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Town of Lansing
Monday, September 27, 2010 7:15PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
)*Denotes present)
* Nancy Loncto * Tom Ellis
* Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson,Chairman
Viola Miller David Hatfield
Richard Prybyl
* Jeffrey Overstrom,EIT
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt,Esq.
* Robert Cree,TB Liaison
Public Present
Andy Sciarabba
Roger Hopkins
Donald Poch
George Breuhaus
Dan Veaner
General Business
Lin Davidson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7:15 PM. Mr.
Davidson inquired if there was anyone from the Public that would like to speak
to the Board with issues other than the Agenda items.
Lansing Recreational Pathway Committee
Roger Hopkins, Spokesperson for The Lansing Recreational Pathway Committee
appeared before the Planning Board and read aloud the following prepared
statement;
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APPROVED
Comment.submitted by Lansing Recreational Pathway Committee to the Lansing
Town Planning Board on 9-27-2010
In our role as a Lansing Town citizen advisory group we have reviewed the proposal for a
grocery store on Triphammer Road and are recommending that the proposed
development include a provision for safe pedestrian and non-motorized transportation
access to the grocery store parcel along North Triphammer and Town Barn Road. We do
not believe this can be accommodated on the shoulder of the road since this pmperty lies
between two busy intersections.with heavy truck traffic.
We realize that the town is in process of constructing specifications for pedestrian
walkways and urge consideration that would accommodate 8 feet wide beyond the
shoulder in the longer term,perhaps with grass inbetween.
We have spoken with Andy Sciarabba about our recommendation and planned a meeting
to discuss ways to make this a pathway that extends to the intersection of Triphammer
and 34B for future pedestrian crossings at that busy intersection.
While the population den3ity at the current time is not gnat.this is a key intersection for
the town of Lansing and will require safe access by pedestrians and non-motorized
transport in the future.
Our recommendation this evening is in line with section#3 and#5 of the Town's
Comprehensive Plan as well as the Town's subdivision regulations.sec.801.that
designate 5%of the total area for purposes such as this.
Such access will also provide critical links to the future non-motorized connector trails
for pedestrians and non-motorized trails in Lansing as approt ed h■ the I own hoard last
week.
Nancy Loncto stated she met with Jeff Overstrom and a couple Members of that
committee last week. Ms. Loncto presented a copy of the Committee's prepared
Resolution that was presented to the Town Board at their last Meeting.
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Proposal to Town Board from the Lansing Recreational
Pathways Committee(LRPC)
September 13,2010
Submitted by the Lansing Recreational Pathways Committer.Maureen Cowen,Chair.Dale
Baker.Lawrence Cathlcs,Marcia Herrick.Ruth Hopkins.Roger Hopkins.Runic Sunsted.
Linda Westlake,members.
We want to thank the Town Board for approv ing the initial plans for our group and supporting our
group as a Lansing citizen committee. We have been working hard to prepare and priontize the tasks
required to help the town move forward with pathways.
During the past months we base continued to gather citizen input by talking with folks around the
town and M talking with folks at Harbor Fest and several Lansing public markets. We've learned
that trails are highly desired,that most citizens appreciate the value they bring to the community and
cognize the urgency of planning and securing access rights for non-motorized transportation and
recreation use trails as the town develops.
We'sc learned that towns across the country are recognizing the importance and value of footpaths
and multi use trails and are moving quickly to develop them. In fact,we've learned from other towns
that trails increase quality of life within the community and when quality of life improves,an do
propert■ satires'
We've talked about the meaning of trails.paved multi use trials,nature trails,trails for skateboards
hikes,and walkers. .411 nonmotonzed mechanises of transportation. Within our committee we've
defined pathway s to mean human powered transportation or recreational use routes of two primary
types.those that are simply footpaths and those that are more multi use trails,sometimes paved.
We have also spent many hours researching potential pathway routes.worked with the County.
Transportation Council to prepare concept pathway maps.attended Transportation Council meetings
to strengthen our ties to future transportation funding possibilities,represented Lansing in the
National Trail shy events,and met with potential grant makers as we continue to gain information on
funding possibilities.
Based on what we've learned.we bet lese trails need to be a priority pan otthe town's planning
process so that our community can reap the benefits of trails in the future. We believe that trails need
to be factored into the town designs.and trail access and rights of was need to he part of the town
planning and permitting process.
So,how do we do this'
I.We need to include trails in the land use planning and deselopment permitting processes.
2.We need to evolve over time a('ONNL t.rim set of trails and footpaths for transportation
both by working within the planning process and M working with willing landowner.
We are here this esenng to ask that the Lansing I ow rr Board take the following actions.
1 We ask the I own Board to agree that it is desirable to develop a consxptual trail network that
can guide and prioritize the acquisition of trail rights of way in the discussions the town will
have with landowners and desckopers who seek to develop land,and we ask that the Town
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Board charge the LRPC to develop such a conceptual plan and modify it on a continuing
basis as rights of was arc secured.
2. We ask the Town Board to authorize the I RP( to have initial discussions with willing
landowners when the I.KP('submits specific trails to the Town hoard and the Town Board
agrees that these trails arc desiraMc
a We request at this time that the Town Beard endorse two trails so the LRPC can
proceed to identify and begin discussions with willing landowners. these are
I a trail to connect the loan Center West to the schools and Myers
Park and fast toward XtraMart and on to the Jensen development.
and
2 a trail to connect the Town('enter South to the Skate Park.the
illage.and the City of Ithaca and North to town lands.
h We ask the town Hoard agree to he proactive in working with I.RPC in conjunction
with landowners on such ensemeots,and to supportively address future issues of
liability and maintenance should the town decide to cnstntct the trails.
3. We ask that the Town Ikvard be proactive in obtaining access and nghts of ways to pathways
in all new subdivisions(y or greater).developments,and PDA's We ask the Town to do this
by including trail consideration early in the town planning review and permitting processes.
Specifically.we ask that the LRPC is solicited for recommendations for pathways in each
development that omits before the town fix permitting. If the develpmentisubdivisiom lies
near a major connecting mute we ask that a meeting between the developer and the I.RPC be
required in order to outline the possible locations of casements for future trail development.
4.We ask the town to continue their support for grant funding when grants become available to
develop the Town Center trailhead from the Town Hall to Woodscdge.the project begun by Steve
Colt two years ago.
to facilitate the above proposals we request that the Town Board.
a) Assign a representative from the Town Board to serve as a liaison to I.RPC and to facilitate
committee efforts.
hl Instruct the town Planning Office to notify LRPC of all Planning Board packets and to make
copies of packets available to I.RPC upon request.
Create any necessary resolutions for Town Board approval that will rover(sahw■y.in
Lansing
The Town Board offered the following Resolution;
RESOLUTION APPROVING LANSING RECREATIONAL PATHWAYS
COMMITTEE REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS
AND IMPLEMENTING POLICIES REGARDING THE SAME
At a Regular Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Lansing, held in
and for the Town of Lansing at the Lansing Town Hall on 15th day of
September, 2010, the following members were present and voting
throughout:
A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor;
Robert Cree, Councilperson;
Kathy Miller, Councilperson; and
Connie Wilcox, Councilperson.
The following Town Board members were absent: Martin Christopher,
Councilperson.
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APPROVED
The following Resolution was duly presented for consideration by the
Town Board:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Recreational Pathways Committee ("LRPC") has
reviewed and developed proposals and plans to begin implementation of
the first phases of developing pathways for pedestrians, bicycles, and
other non-motorized modes of travel in and around the Town of Lansing;
and
WHEREAS, the LRPC had gathered citizen input and determined that
walking and recreational trails are highly beneficial to the Town and its
residents; and the Town Board so agrees and declares the creation of
planned pathways as being in the public interest; and
WHEREAS, the LRPC has spent many hours researching potential
pathway routes, worked with the County Transportation Council to
prepare concept pathway maps, attended Transportation Council
meetings to strengthen ties to future transportation funding possibilities,
represented Lansing in the National Trail Day events, and met with
potential grant makers relative to pathway development within the Town
of Lansing; and
WHEREAS, the LRPC has communicated and proposed policies and
procedures to integrate the consideration of pathways in the Town of
Lansing as part of the planning and other processes relating to land
development, zoning, and other areas of law; and
WHEREAS, upon review and discussion of the matter the Town Board of
the Town of Lansing has hereby
RESOLVED AND DECLARED, that the development of pathways, and the
consideration of pathways, be and hereby are deemed and held to be in
the public interests of the Town of Lansing and its citizens; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board directs that its various Department
Heads consider pathways in their projects, assess the viability and
benefits of pathways in their deliberations, and consult with the LRPC for
input and advice as to the inclusion, funding, construction, and approval
of pathways as part of their deliberations and permitting processes; and it
is further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board asks that the Planning Board consider
implementing pathways in site plan reviews, PDA reviews, subdivision
reviews, and in other applicable areas, to assess the viability and benefits
of the same in their deliberations, and consult with the LRPC for input and
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advice as to the inclusion, funding, construction, and approval of
pathways as part of their deliberations and approval processes; and it is
further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board further charges the LRPC with
developing a conceptual and interconnected trail and pathway system,
and to periodically review and update the same, by and for the Town of
Lansing, and work with the Town and its Officials and Boards to
implement and fund the same, whether through grant funding or
otherwise; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby endorses two proposed trails
and directs the LRPC to proceed to identify and begin discussions with
willing landowners and find and propose funding opportunities for the
same; such initial pathways being described generally as follows: (i) a trail
to connect the Town Center West to the schools and Myers Park and East
toward Xtra Mart and on to the Jensen development; and (ii) a trail to
connect the Town Center South to the Skate Park, the Village of Lansing
and the City of Ithaca, and North to town lands; each as shown upon the
preliminary conceptual maps submitted to the Town Board; and it is
further
RESOLVED, that the policies of the Town shall be amended and
implemented to require that the Officials and Departments of the Town
consider pathways and solicit input and opinions from the LRPC relative to
pathways in each development, permit, and project undertaken for
consideration or permitting; and the Town Board further requests that the
Planning Board assign a liaison to the LRPC (or accept a LRPC liaison to
work with the Planning Board, as an advisor), work with and consider the
recommendations of the LRPC relative to projects throughout the Town of
Lansing, particularly those projects near a major connecting route, and
consider meeting with the LRPC, and requiring developers to meet with
the LRPC, to address and discuss pathways as a part of projects and
permits within the Town of Lansing; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Planning Department notify LRPC whenever a new
project, such as a PDA, site plan, special permit, or subdivision, comes
before the Department or the Planning Board so that LRPC may review
and consider the same and make recommendations to the Town, its
Officials, and its Boards, regarding the same; and it is further
RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor, and/or the Deputy Supervisor, be
and each is hereby empowered to take such further actions to implement
this Resolution as are permitted by law.
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APPROVED
The question of the adoption of such proposed Resolution was duly
motioned by Connie Wilcox, duly seconded by Kathy Miller, and put to a
roll call vote with the following results:
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Robert Cree, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Kathy Miller, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Accordingly, the foregoing Resolution was approved, carried, and duly
adopted.
Larry Sharpsteen inquired how 250' of sidewalk out in the middle of no where,
with no other sidewalk within a mile do any good for anybody?
Nancy Loncto indicated you have to start somewhere and this is a start. If you
don't start, then you will never have it when the population, traffic and demand
require it due to dangerous conditions.
Roger Hopkins states the Town has agreed to pay $180,000 for the rights to a
piece of land across the road from the ball parks which they have indicated
would be the town center. Mr. Hopkins feels the town should start planning
now for that. The 8' that the pathway committee is requesting is only a plan, and
by no means are they requesting or demanding that a sidewalk be put in now by
the Developer. Mr. Hopkins further indicated it would be much cheaper for the
town now, then after the fact.
Mr. Hopkins thanked the Board for their time.
Approval/Denial of Minutes for: July 12, 2010, August 9, 2010 and
August 23, 2010
July 12, 2010
Thomas Ellis requested on page 21 under: Further Resolved, #2 the word is
should be his
Due to Nancy Loncto and Larry Sharpsteen not being in attendance for this
Meeting, they will be abstaining leaving the motion denied. It was the consensus
of the Board to place them on the next Agenda.
August 9, 2010
Thomas Ellis requested on page 15, under Lin Davidson, the word room should
read road.
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APPROVED
Thomas Ellis made a motion to approve as amended. Larry Sharpsteen
seconded.
VOTE AS FOLLOWS.
Thomas Ellis-Aye
Nancy Loncto -Aye
Larry Sharpsteen-Aye
Lin Davidson-Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
September 13,2010
Due to Nancy Loncto and Larry Sharpsteen not being in attendance for this
Meeting, they will be abstaining leaving the motion denied. It was the consensus
of the Board to place them on the next Agenda.
Site Plan & SEQR Review - Lansing Associates Independent
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Mr. Andrew Sciarabba appeared before the Board with his Architect, George
Breuhaus and presented the above site plan. Mr. Sciarabba states he intends on
building a masonry 14,000 sq. ft retail full service food market. 2,000 sq. ft of that
will be the delivery portion located in the direction of the North. The delivery
access will be made from the Town Barn Road. The customer access will be a 24
ft . wide, two lane driveway from North Triphammer Road. There will be plenty
of parking, also three-four (3-4) handicap spaces on site. There will be no parking
up next to the store. The store will be open 7 days per week from 8:00 AM to 9:00
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PM. There will be two (2) Bathrooms (1 Men& 1 Women). Two signs will be
erected. One sign will display messages regarding happenings in the Town. Mr.
Sciarabba would like the construction to begin December 1, 2010 in order for an
opening date in May or June of 2011.
Mr. Sciarabba states he spoke with a Pathway Committee Member today
regarding land for sidewalks or pathways. Mr. Sciarabba is not opposed to
allowing for this infrastructure in his plans, however, there are a lot of unknowns
at this time with respect to maintenance, compensation for the property and so
forth and he does not want that to hold up his project.
Thomas Ellis inquired if a Fire Truck could enter the driveway with no problems.
Mr. Breuhaus indicated there should be no problem. Mr. Ellis also inquired
about adding an additional fire hydrant on Triphammer Road.
Lin Davidson has great concerns with the layout of the proposed customer access
driveway due to the placement of it. Mr. Davidson feels the Developer should
consider hiring a Traffic Engineer due to the volume of traffic currently on
North Triphammer Road.
A brief discussion took place with respect to possibly adding an additional exit
to the north, coming out on Town Barn Road.
Jeff Overstrom advised the Members that a short SEQR should be fine.
The following items are required before final approval;
1. Lighting Plan
2. Fire Department Review
3. Comment from the Tompkins County Highway Division
4. Stormwater Plan
It was the consensus of the Board that they will accept any dimensional changes
with respect to the sidewalks and or pathways with out requiring the Developer
to go through the whole Site Plan Review Process again.
Nancy Loncto made a motion to set accept the above agreement and set Public
Hearing(s) on the Application and SEQR for Monday, October 25, 2010 at 7:20
PM. Larry Sharpsteen seconded.
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Thomas Ellis - Aye
Nancy Loncto -Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson- Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
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Training
Nancy Loncto suggested that all three Boards consider hiring a trainer who is
specialized in easements and other issues with respect to pathways come in and
speak.
Planning Board Alternate Position
Nancy Loncto stated she spoke with resident, Kip Kersat and he would be
interested in the Planning position. Ms. Jacobsen will send him out an
Application.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to adjourn the Meeting. Lin Davidson
seconded.
VOTE AS FOLLOWS
Thomas Ellis -Aye
Nancy Loncto -Aye
Larry Sharpsteen- Aye
Lin Davidson- Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
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