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Home My WebLink About2009-02-23 APPROVED • Town of Lansing Monday, February 23, 2009 7: 15 PM PLANNING BOARD PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS rmutohtipresent) * Nancy Londe * Tom Ellis * Larry Sharpsteen Lin Davidson, Chairman * Viola Miller David Hatfield * Marty Christopher, Town Board Liaison Richard Prybyl ' Jeffrey Overstrom, ElT David Buck, Alternate * Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq . Public Present Wayne Matteson Robert S. Miller Ron S. eacord Dan Veaner Bryan Warren Bill Demo • Connie Wilcox SusanMehr Roger Van De Poel Elisabeth Hegarty Patricia Pryor Hugh liahar Jim Eyster Ruth Hopkins Roger Hopkins Richard Wentworth Jack Young Jill Vaughan Dan Pace Ron Ronsvalle Larry Fabbroni Edward Ebersold Margaret Ebersold General Business Lin Davidson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7: 18 PM. Public Comments/Concerns Mr. Davidson, Chairman inquired if there were any Public Bodies present that would like to make a statement that is not related to any Agenda item. Public : • Jim Pester: Concerned with the proposed change in the .Planning Board term length from seven years to three . Believes there is a reason for the State Law that APPROVED is set for seven years, and the Town should abide by that . Requested to 1owm from the Planning Board Members; 1 . How long have the Members known that this change in term length is e possibility ? 2. Beyond three years , at who' s pleasure hoes the Members serve ? Marty Christopher : Explained to the Public that Mr . Eyster concerns will be addressed at the Town Board level at their next Meettng on February 2H, 2009 . In addition, Mr. Christopher stated r ehat Mt . htster said with respect to the term length is partially true . Mr . Christopher further stated the local low is merely stating e terns change to three year . No where in the Local Law does it say the Members will not be serving longer than three years . Viola Miller requested that bin minutes reflect Marty Christopher speaking as a Lansing Citizen, not as representation for the Town Board . Thomas Alis : Advised the Public that he learned about bbs possible change hh days ago . Marty Tlu•istopb.er: Expressed that finding residents to serve on the Plaiuuncg Board for e seven fear term is e big coermitinent. If the initial commitment was less, it would be easier to get people to run for bre Planning Board . doper Hopkins : inquired if the Planning board as e whole would be at the next Town Board Meeting or will iviembers seine as Individuals , home Members will be in attendance . Public Hearin ' - Lan in I Commons Cavi - a Vista Drive Tee Parcel # 37 . 1. - 2 - 3 . 222 Larry Sharpsteee made a motion to open the Public Hearing et 7:26 TM . David Hatfield seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS: Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield - Aye Nancy honcto - Aye Viola Miller - Aye Richard Prybl - Aye Larry Therpateen - The Lin Davidson - Aye • 2 APPROVED MOTION CARRIED, • 'Is . Moynihan Schmitt clarified .for the record the reason for this Public Rearing is for the Planning Board to make a determination about whether or not the Planning Board will recommend en approval at the Town Board level for the formation of the FDA with conditions set forth in the Statement of intent and Addendum or recommendation to deny the BOA . PublicComments/Concerns : :Hugh .Baher : inquired how does this proposed project fit in to the vision of the Comprehensive Plan ? Ms . Moynihan Sclityiitt advised Mr . 'Sahar that the project Engineer has included the information he is requesting in the Applicant' s Preliminary proposal on page 4 . Mr . 13ahar may obtain this information front the Clerk in the . Junin Department. Hugh Bahar: loquired if it v7iis the Developer' s intent to have the Town of Lansing take over the maintenance and operating cost of. the plant and future • capital replacement? Perryhaioste no Negatbrre . Any discussion that has recce before the Planning. Board has been discussed to he e benefit district. Elisabeth Hegartd : Inquired what happens if the project belly -ups . Connie Wilcox : Advised Ms . .Hegarty that the Developer has provided a Bond up front to rover die Town in the event this should happen . Roger Van De Poel : Concerned with increased traffic , Thomas 'Ellis ; Explained the traffic issue is on the radar for this project . Nancy Puerto : Advised Mr . Van Dei Poet that the Planning Board has received a Traffic Study on this proposed project and wilt be reviewing it . A copy is available in the Planning Office . Larry bharpsteen : Advised the 2"d Phase of this development provides 8 Ac entrance for this development on to Cayuga Vista Drive, west of the corner . Mc bharpsteen suggested that Ifiis . Van De hoe ! talk to the Town Board about adding • stop rigors between his road and the road by the elderly housing _ 3 APPROVED • Susan Mehr : Inquired as to how many new homes and apartments . Larry harpsteen: Advised. the septic system is being designed for optimum build out. The: Planning Board has received a plan showing single family homes, 2 bedroom townhouses and an area for either townhouses or professional offices may go . Ronald eacord : Advised 3d lots total , 1 homes will be built in the 14L phase , It is hard to tell as it is market driven. Thomas Eitic : Concerned with the Developer going over the ailotted number of dwelling units allowed for the density _ Mr . hilts presented the following; • I 4 APPROVED . • . :LANSING COMMONS PROJECT • } CTEC DATA &ISL.. r u 4Lir..(5 ED A4 `ir 'F'n amp Thu W11'R4WATER & SyW1EK ( I 11-114; ) s- TYM i°Raf1 POLIMULTIPLE l WEQ.i: O liklll'S (3 Ua MGRE l map d D3 .o AL-Ae. 39:A16. $Q- fl TO r' l, !haWA `!"b lP X $AFf' \Vk! = ITLIPAN 5Q. (staled hear W) lag a1/40iIF a 1 JAL .4t WATER ' t' ;, (kt3JE A Urroataka3 : YYL1 • ri: 1i 'E 024,re ._?)ti i ` I TYPE -A (937 !aim • i,cn[do:4kIl4 flarz6 tit dtc DaaFaiD ?Romer Ili .h° 3 ' I_ twa saerni [s &: LSE) • } p., p, ec Yo, 1<.98x t.§K • P4iJ+ 5 . L,!*+I)<& `.{! 4 rift Immo iv ]:(� • 346E15 , C� i 4 unit ;rpt, 4 2 -bell enc • 71111 ISI 144 N- 1 fiiffier 6 • • i8 3Yli th 1 . }AFI'. (4-unit) 21 • & Pi-MS . 1 1: 3- r#thus I .g (pita kiln) g } 3 exh • 2- AVM 91 ire rreu 1 $ ak, t rare .I- 0ara31y- bazis I +- itzEr €u t al kris 2 1 tory lrc r ) TOTALS 55 - Dli I 5$08 Jef&rev Overstrom : ExpJaiaied the inter t of the project is for phase I to have a certain density with single family homes, being a :PPA, for phase II they wouici have to return with a proposal that wiilI fit the infrastructure capacity at that time, as well as Phase ill the same . • 5 APPROVED Thomas Ellis suggested that the Plain-ling Board look at setting a bedroom limit as opposed to a gallon Pratt for this ADA . 'Elisabeth Hegarty : Inquired what the cost is for affordable housing in this area . Chris Vann : Affordable housing at the state level is around $210,000 $215,000 . Wayne Matteson: Inquired if. there is any reason why the Developer would not be able to expand the prefect beyond the 1. 5, 000 gallons per day . Larry harpsteen : Advised Mr . 'Matteson that he previously suggested that the Developer build out to his maximum capability- . Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to close the Public Pleating et d : dP RMI. Nancy Loncto seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS: Thomas EIlis - Aye David Hatfield Aye N ancy Londe - Aye ✓ iola Miller - Aye Richard Prbl - Aye Larry Bharpsteen - Aye 111 Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION ARRIED. The Planning Board felt it wes too premature to forward this proposal to the Town Board , Larry Sherpsteen made a motion to discuss the proposed project at the next Planning Board Meering . David Hatfield seconded , VOTE AS FOLLOWS: Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield - Aye N ancy Londe - Aye Viola Miller - Aye Richard Prdbyl - Aye Larry Bharpsteen - Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED . • 6 APPROVED Public Hearing- SEQR, Cayuga Farms Town Homes. N. Triphammer Road, Tax Parcel # 37. 1 -6-1. 362 David Hatfield made a motion to open the Public Hearing at 0 : ld PM . Richard Prybyl second.ed , VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield - Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED . Public TommentMvn.cerns : Edward Ebersold : Concerned with increased drainage, traffic and wildlife . 'Elisabeth Hagerty : Concerned with issues such as, pollution, traffic , length of • time to build project, wildlife issues, view sheds issues . Jill Taugfuz : Concerns of additional traffic in terms of air pollution and noise . Pat frees: Inquired as to what the impact of connecting the sewer fine to the plant mould have on property owners that the lines mil .1 go through their land . Also requested to decry if. the Developer has permission/ agreement from the owners of the plant? Tim Buhl : Stated the Developer is looking at three alternate plans _ No Formal agreements or letter of Intent has been obtained from the Cayuga Heights PIant, or permission .from private property landowners , Elisabeth He ettc : Inquired if once the sewers are complete, wouldn' t they be given back to the Town, and the Town be held responsible For the maintenance . darry Sharpsteen : A Benefit District mill be established , To this point, the Planning Board and '.[ o .n Board have been eery careful in assuring that any additions ! cost will not evolve to the town or the residents other they the ones residing in the area involved . S - I APPROVED Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt: Clarified for the i:ecord that the Planning Board is reviewing the Environments ] Review tonight on the Site Plan _ There will be an additional State A-viranwenteJ Quality Review (SEQR)} at the Town Board level to look at the Sewer District formation and the build outs . Scrutiny will be heightened at that review , Ms . Moynihan Schmitt further stated to N'Cr _ Buhl that the Planning Board needs know where the tie in will be in order to complete this review anti the long Environmental Assessment Review , Connie Wilcox : Advised the Planning lard and Mr . 'Buhl that there is no connection on Cherry Road for sewer. Before die Planning Board moved forward, Ms _ Wilcox would like to see letters of agreements from the other Municipalities/ Village of Lansing and Cayuga ]-[eights. Ilan Pace: Advised Mr . BUN :f, S . and, Agent for MB Groups that he owns an existing Driving Range near the proposes[ project that has four light poles, each with 10,000 watts that can and are used every night . These Lights are very bright. Mr . Pace is requesting that the Developer advise perspective buyers of this business es he does not want complaints regarding his existing business _ Pat Pryor: Inquired about a Timeline 1110 Tim Buhl : Approximately One year away f.rom beginning of construction, 138 Units total , built in four Phases with die build. out being in 1. 2 years . Elisabeth Ibedarty : Inquires[ who would be responsible for drainage ditch issues _ Lin Davidson : Advised that Forth 'IC-ripharnmer is a County Toad . Nancy Lonc to made a motion to close the Public Hear] o.g at 8 :37 Mt David :Hatfield seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield - Aye Nancy Loncko - Aye Viola Miller - Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED . Roger Hopkins : inquired ii there are provisions for protecting die old railroad _ • 8 APPROVED Tim Buhl : Yes, provisions will be made for that and the current streams on the • property . Nancy Loncto suggested that the Planning Board request further information from the Developer such as a Traffic Study, also feedback from the Lansing School District, The Recreation Department and the Police Department with respect to the density and what impacts this may have on them. Nancy Loncto offered the following Resolution 09-19; STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT ("SEQRA ") NOTICE OF INTENT ESTABLISHMENT OF SEQRA LEAD AGENCY TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD '1'O : Involved and Interested Agencies (see attached list) • DATED : February 23 , 2009 This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 . 6 (1)) of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article S of the State Environmental Conservation Law ( State Environmental Quality Review Act) . Please take notice that the Town of Lansing Planning Board has determined that it is willing to act as SEQRA Lead Agency for environmental review of the proposed action described below and shall coordinate environmental review pursuant to Article 8 of the ECL and Implementing Regulations (6 NYCRR Part 617) . Name of Action : Cayuga Farms Townhomes SEQRA Status : 'Type I Description of Action : Residential development of approximately 41 . 44 acres into 138 condominium townhomes . The Project consists of the following : Development of 138 condominium townhomes on 41 . 44 acres of land . Twenty-seven (27) residential buildings will 110 be constructed that will house 4-6 dwellings each . Approximately 600 LE of new Town roadway and 2 , 200 9 • APPROVED LF of private internal roadway will be constructed , along with a similar amount of new public water and sewer mains to serve the development . A pumping station and sewer force main will be used to connect to the Village of Lansing/Cayuga Heights wastewater collection system . Location : The Project Site is located in the Town of Lansing, County of Tompkins , State of New York . The proximate Project Site boundaries are within tax parcel numbers 37 . -6 -3 . 362 and 37 . 1 -6 . 3 . 35 located on the west side of North Triphammer Road, in the Town of Lansing, New York . Contact Person : Jeff Overstrom Engineer & Planning Coordinator Lansina Town Hall 29 Auburn Road Lansing, New York t4882 (607 ) 533 - 7054 Please take further notice that unless any involved agency objects to this determination and Intent of Lead Agency status within thirty (30) calendar days of the above date, the Town of Lansing Planning Board shall be deemed Lead Agency . • Dated : Lansing, New York February 23 , 2009 Town of Lansing Planning Board Larry Sharpsteen seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield - Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller - Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED. it was requested by the Planning Board that Mr. Buhl provide the Board with a letter of interest from the other Agencies involved with respect to the sewer • issue . Final Plat Approval — Cardamone, 4 Lot Minor Subdivision , IO L a APPROVED Teeter Aaa.d, Tax Parcel P 87.1 -i-18 Larry 'Fabbroni, Engineer appeared before the Board requesting Final Subdivision approval . Mr . Pa bbroni indicated a modification to the plat was made with respect to the .Rin Gardens _ in the Preliminary Plat approval stage, a water we originally going to be used , however, due to neighbor concerns, Rain. Gardens were used in thoir place . Mr . Fabbrani states each Iot owner will be .responsible for their own garden. A Mater District has been formed , Larry dharpsteeu requested that e deed restriction be included in the filing of the Final Plat indicating ii the down has to perform maintenance on the gardens, the town must have access to the property . Thomas Ellis wade a motion to waive the Public Hearing on the minor oradifrcation _ darn/ dharpsteaa seconded . VOTE A S FOLLOWS: Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield - Aye Nancy Loncte - Aye Able Miller - Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye • Larry Sharpsteen - Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED. Thomas Ells made a motion to approve the Final Plat with the modification discussed above, to include e deed restriction on the Final Map, and final approval .from Engineering and Legal Counsel with respect to the modificat.inns .trade . Larry dharpstaco seconded _ VOTE AS FOLLOWS: Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield - Aye Nancy Lvncto - Aye Viola Miller - Aye Richard .f'rybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED. S 11 APPROVED Approval/Denial of January 26, 2009 Minutes Larry Sharpsteen requested the word : perceptions corrected to read : misperceptions . Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt requested on page 9, last paragraph that Jeff Overstrom' s Title be corrected to read : Engineering and Planning Coordinator. Thomas Ellis made a motion to approve as amended . Nancy Loncto seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield - Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller - Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED . Larry Sharpsteen requested the Lansing Commons project be placed on the • Agenda for the next regularly scheduled Meeting to be held on, Monday , March 9, 2009 for further discussion of the proposed project. Thomas Ellis requested examples of other areas that are using the proposed package plant. Connie Wilcox stated she has picked up information on these plants and will leave them in the Planning Department for Ms . Ellis to pick up . Nancy Loncto made a motion to adjourn the Regular Meeting at 9: 06 PM . Thomas Ellis seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : • Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield - Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller - Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED. • I. 2 F Town of Lansing Planning Board Meeting February 23 , 2009 Visitors Please Sign In Below : (Please Print) pine, Address Ott) z e 7 gg-tatQf e ; I ,. . crber6- S Let/ 'Most/ &„, kierecv,vi- f Perna ( 7 to ., r G✓ Aiern ecii) - La I Lc of. 8-34 ale eLF coRAN ( 1 . L LAS or / arm. 2.. cakffe-c- vet ve-- Lisii ayi4 led-sek ,egri a- AseuiCH L ,e - ) c /q1/4 Aiy e. ? ,„ r N,C,o Lid red, 11:-% Se-fie Ye, 70‘ gat - , c5Zitçj / �e -. h--1; a I In' t--C-(2-S Gpro,.\ http : //www . lansin town . com/ l . 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