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Home My WebLink About2009-02-08 • Town of Lansing Planning Board Meeting February 8 , 2010 Visitors Please Sign In Below : (Please Print ) L Name Address (4-27/S4 a e f 4 j;2 3 lea Igo,tosj f / I /a .26- .7d ._ 4. / j x4 Z ,,, ,7- ,4, /.5 in us. lit ! 0 _ .. At,..... at • I 4 el - ‘ f t• S Mi r► 1a- 60tS i 7 Cao—Sa ecity / 01 e..40 , 0 c\i,geot (.2 /4/.: A /Lizo,r / r ?O GOcdnia , : _ e a , . i iii Co 9ftc) Nonk 66b 4 b• 2d http : //www . lansingtown . com/ • I :1-" P OVED • 11 • Town o • ' r. Monday, December 14, 2009 7:15PM PLANNING BOARD PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS (*Denotes present) * Nancy Loncto * Tom Ellis * Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson, Chairman Viola Miller David Hatfield * Richard Prybyl * Jeffrey Overstrom, EIT Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq . Public Present Kathy Miller Mark Wheeler Bong Sen Susan Worsell Tim Buhl Donald Worsell 11111 General Business Lin Davidson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7 : 15 PM. Mr. Davidson inquired if there was anyone from the Public that would like to speak. Public/Member Comments/Concerns There were no public comments or concerns . Minor Flag Lot(s) Three - Subdivision Review, Applicant ; Donald Worsell , Ridge & Emmons Road, Tax Parcel # 16 . - 1 -40 .22 Mr. & Mrs . Worsell appeared before the Planning Board for a Minor Subdivision consisting of 3 Flag Lots . The Worsell ' s appeared before the Town of Lansing Zoning Board of Appeals on December 7 , 2009 requesting approval of the length of two (2) of the driveways in this proposed Subdivision . The Town of Lansing Rules and Regulations state no Flag Lot driveway shall be over 500 ' long . The Zoning Board of Appeals granted Mr. Worsell ' s request with the condition that a ( 1 ) Single Family House or one ( 1 ) Duplex may be built on each lot. Discussion at the Zoning Board of Appeals level also discussed any future Subdivision of the proposed parcel (s) will require the Developer' s to develop the driveway into a Town Road, built to Town Specifications and dedicated to the Town . The Zoning Board of Appeals publicized the Public Hearing on the SEQR process and completed their review declaring a Negative Declaration . Jeff Overstrom explained to the Planning Board Members that the driveways and Flag Lots are not contiguous . • Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to accept the Subdivision as presented with the Condition noted by the Zoning Board of Appeals; 1 DRAFT • 1 . Any development on the two parcels will be limited to one ( 1 ) building for a • Single Family Residence or Duplex . In addition, the Planning Board accepts the completed SEQR Review performed by the Zoning Board of Appeals resulting in a Negative Declaration . David Hatfield seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield — Aye Nancy Loncto — Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen— Aye Lin Davidson - Abstained MOTION CARRIED David Hatfield made a motion to waive the Public Hearing on the Flag Lots as there was no objection from the Public at the Zoning Board of Appeals with regards to the proposed Subdivision. There were two residents that were concerned with loosing their hunting rights . Larry Sharpsteen seconded . • VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield — Aye Nancy Loncto — Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen— Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED Site Plan & SEOR Review-In Home Business (Wine Sales) , Applicant : Bong Sen , 737 VanOstrand Road, Tax Parcel # 19 . - 1 - 10. 1 Mr . Sen appeared before the Board requesting Site Plan Review to allow him to produce and sell homemade wine from his residence . There will be no new buildings or any additional lighting. Mr. Sen intends on selling his product mainly on the weekends, and a majority of it at the Ithaca Farmer's Market . On occasion, sales will take place during the weekend from his residence . The property has the ability to handle approximately 5- 6 customer vehicles at a time . There will be no employees, only Mr. & Mrs . Sen . Larry Sharpsteen stated for the record, this is an Agricultural Use . Lin Davidson suggested that a Tompkins County Soil Map be inserted into the files for • future reference as well as a Sketch of the property showing the current buildings on the ground . 2 ti DRAFT Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to approve conditionally upon receipt of approval • from The Tompkins County Health Department, The NYS Liquor Authority and that a Tompkins County Soil Map is inserted into the files for future reference as well as a Sketch of the property showing the current buildings on the ground . Richard Prybyl seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield — Aye Nancy Loncto — Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen— Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED David Hatfield made a motion to waive the Public Hearing due to no neighbors within 600' being present for this Review as they were notified on November 17, 2009 . Larry Sharpsteen seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield — Aye 4111 Nancy Loncto — Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen— Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED Larry Sharpsteen also indicated for the record that the last time they had a Site Plan Review on a Business expansion in a Business Park, the Planning Board waived that Public Hearing due to the neighbors being notified and were in favor of it. The Planning Board reviewed Part I of the Short Environmental Assessment Form completed by the Applicant and completed Part II by the Planning Board Members . No significant adverse environmental impacts or effects were identified in Part II by the Planning Board Members . Lin Davidson made a motion declaring a negative declaration . David Hatfield seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield — Aye Nancy Loncto — Aye • Richard Prybyl - Aye 3 DRAFT Larry Sharpsteen— Aye • Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED Update on Project- Cayuga Farms , North Triphammer Road, Tax Parcel # 37 . 1 -6 -3 .362 Timothy Buhl, P.E . and Mark Wheeler, Legal Counsel appeared before the Board with updates to the proposed project. An updated Site Plan Plat and Sewer Connection Maps were presented to the Planning Board . Mr. Buhl recapped what previously has occurred with the project and Planning Board . Mr . Buhl recalls being in the middle of a PB SEQR Hearing and it was tabled due to a sewer connection issue, which later turned into a sewer capacity issue . Mr. Buhl believes that issue has been resolved with the study that the Town did for the Village of Cayuga Heights . It explains there is plenty of capacity for the Warren Road Sewer, although, the Cayuga Farms project is not specifically mentioned in it. Email correspondence has taken place between Cayuga Heights (Brent Cross) and the Lansing School District Bus Garage, see attached below; • • 4 DRAFT , • alcAYUGA 'HE'IGHTS SEWAGE TREAPENTtE 'r • 4Y TimV - 'i - • . t in response to your requeSt4, fur "i nformat icsri : horst sewage creatrneilt foir'• the above ' ' referenced project , I offer% the followinII „ g : 1 . Asa result of the 2003 anteflnunic:jpai Sewer _Agreement., tlew flim€`• ofa u a ' He•icihts has. availiabTle sewage treatment capacity due to the coaastructr,pa of the Kline Road sewer interceptor , Thas project was Funded by the v��illaci , pf1. f„ansiai4. Itis is not an unlimited capacity . but there is at least enough co "covet*,. a po ject ` of this Si ( . 2 . Since the location of this project is in tke Town Of Lansing , any capacity ' available to the Town would need to be approved by the village Of Lansing ' 3' aew. needs to " reserve " capacity for projects that wi ti/have been approved An thei coi "l .ect on , - system . There are other Town projects in " competition' for t.hi . tapacity , 3 . the current village sewer ordinance , ,and contractual terms 'With' the L ansiD gi ( 'y)) 4 classifies sewage based on 1 sew,=er , unit 1 " dwelling unit . Therefore , this project:.:. . would use 138 sewer units , ' ; 4 . The village of Cayuga Heights has a connection permit fee of 1SO per setter unit . (due at the time of connection) . ,it is my underStan ing the "Town 'and Village °:of Lansing have per ,unit fees to connect . to their syste .. YOU wiIli fleed. i`d get, ; confirmation from them , 5 . ;after ccnsrruction , the village will charge the Town of Lansing annually for the cost of treatment. The " current " billing rate is $183/dwelling unit . Z dog not know how r rch the Town charges their properties , but it ii my understanding that the cost is added to the e3olton point quarterly water tsfll .. s believe that -tire village of Lansing may also ;charge an annual fee for capacity of their collection system . Again , you will need to veri fy< aw-i th them - - . • ;.; I think this covers all of the information you' will ` need . Please "cornet'.. ecce .i t .you :- • have any other questions . I am providing ' a ccpyr of this mes*arse to" the. mWp? :jt aQe " : of Lansing (Sharon ; please forward `to scott /Bud) isec. ereiy , �„ TTRENT A . CAOSS , {'k . . SUPERIKtENOEi T Or' PUBLIC WORKS . . . ' VILLAGE tGE tt GINEErt ZONING OFFICER ; SUILOING " CQ UISS/O.NER . 2 EIRE t TSPtEcToR �. sfoRmwArcR MANAGEMENT OFFICER, „, VILLAGE OF C.AYUG4 1EJGHTs 836 mannhaw Road Ithaca , NY 14650 607 - 25T- 5536 L`OICE ". 607 . 257 - 491g FAX bcrvsst?cayega -heights . ny . us . : . No virus found in ' thrs incoming messicle . checked by Avg . version : 75 . 524 / vi;ru Database : 269 , 24 I 6/1484 W Release Date .:,, 614 / 2008 4 : 40 RM: , PdCdey. • • 5 DRAFT • LANSING SCHOOL SUS ,ACCESS - Cayuga Fara. Tewnhor s Project Tin -i don ' t see any problem in picking students up there ' as fOny .as it will plowed in the winter . On Fri , Dec 4 , 2009 at 5 : 41 loll , LOU1s Varg;a . , lMai y.. varg 'c :lcsd k22i ny ; us> wrote. . a ood morni rig T1int sorry 1 haven " t gotten back gni th you i will :check , . • this over and ger_ back with you today . , Louie s on mon , NQV 30 , L2009 at 10: 03 Aa , Timothy $001 chtGbuhT:A+aet i ?on . et> avr tw,e >> Hi +2r- . varga : w > } , «. .•, > > .t have been asked by the tb n of Lansing Jlann;in9 Baird to sciT.icit ,You >> comments on the attached site plan . • >> we are pi anni n ' a rrrul ti tobonding tvivnhotr?e project that vri '! '1 be Lar ret r wt >z both young working couples and empty-nested iseni ors Thep air 1 $ ted ;Fainld „a ?> 26 wide private roadway to " Town rof Lansing SPeCificatiOns ttegcauttis thie > > project as shswn , but which will most likely not be tue el -owei .the. Gciwn > > Forpublic ownership , You trill note on the ,pian me have shown three:e » separate hos pull -offs for- school and TcAt . bus service: stops`, . .itif Their questions is primarily if the school District Bu's service, will /will >> not pick up students inside the project at the designated pall.ADfis . ° or i >> stops will only be made from Tr tpiarnier Road at the roadway got: ahces any a comments along these lines would be -grreat;ty aOpred. a: 'e& would ' also be >> willing to stop in and meet with you , to go over the site plan - =ih person , -i f. . • >> you chink this ;would be helpful . > , > Please give me wa call at 60744123 . J919 if you have any ~q estions on tie . > , attached Or if ;you wish to set ' up ,a ineeating time , >> 'thanks dor you ::help , • t > > » Tiro soon >,> > Timothy HU hl • ss , >> Gor rich Hill TimrtFiy C . Buhl , 4' . e . r :zRoad » Locke , riY 13Q9 . > tax : 607 . 428i 0204 r. >> ce11t , 6ft7 , w123 . 1.g1_ t . Mr. Overstrom states the Kline Road Bypass did open up capacity within the Village of Cayuga Heights Sewer. The Study for the Warren Road District was completed and determined there is capable capacity for that project and future expansion. However, as noted in Mr. Cross's email, there are other Town projects in competition for this capacity . Mr. Buhl indicated that Mr. Cross suggested the Town consider possibly expanding the Warren Road District to include this project or, do a separate no cost extension to that district . Mr. Overstrom stated there are some projects on the table that will be taking some of the capacity. Once their full build out has been looked at, other projects will be reviewed . Mr. Overstrom further suggested going through the procedure of forming another Sewer District or Sewer District Extension of the Warren Road Sewer District. Once that is formed it should include the Cayuga Fauns Project . • Larry Sharpsteen 'iquestioned if the Planning Board would need a Memorandum of Understanding in order to proceed with the Planning Board's work on the project . 6 4. DRAFT It was suggested that the Developer open dialogue with the Town . • Timothy Buhl states at this time, the Developer would like to be included in this District as an extension when it is established or they would do a separate district of their own that would tie into to get to the District . According to Mr. Wheeler' s notes, one of the questions that came up at the last Planning Board Meeting he attended was the Board would consider issuing Preliminary Site Plan Approval contingent upon final Sewer Plan and other Municipalities, if Counsel provided a written letter to that affect. Jeff Overstrom states this is the first Sewer Route Map he has seen for the proposed route . The Town ',;will need to have more details as to what exactly the Town wants to do and coordinate with David Herrick as far as the connection point along Warren Road . Lin Davidson requested to know if Mr. Buhl had contact the School District to see if they can handle the capacity . Jeff Overstrom is waiting to hear from the Fire Chief as to his opinion on the proposed project with respect to emergency vehicles being able to enter/ exit the development without any problems . Jeff Overstrom will make contact with Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt to further discuss the proposal . In addition, Mr. Overstrom will be meeting with Guy Krogh and David Herrick next week to discuss other matters, and he will bring up this proposal as well. • Approval/Denial of Minutes for November 9, 2009 David Hatfield made a motion to approve the Minutes as presented . Larry Sharpsteen seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield — Aye Nancy Loncto — Aye Richard Prybyl - Abstained Larry Sharpsteen— Aye Lin Davidson - Aye MOTION CARRIED David Hatfield made a motion to adjourn the Meeting at 8 :22 PM . Larry Sharpsteen seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis - Aye David Hatfield — Aye Nancy Loncto — Aye Richard Prybyl - Aye Larry Sharpsteen— Aye Lin Davidson - Aye 7 DRAFT • MOTION CARRIED • 8