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Town of Lansing
Monday, January 26, 2009 7:15 PM PLANNING BOARD
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(4 )eantc. present)
Nancy Loncto Tom Ellis
Larry Sharpsteen * Lin Davidson, Chairman
* Viola Miller David Hatfield
Marty Christopher, Town Board Liaison * Richard Prybyl
* Jeffrey Overstrom, Err David Buck, Alternate
* Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq.
Public Present
Robert Porter
Wayne Matteson Jr, . P. E.
Donald Poch
• ' ,timothy Buhl , P. E .
General Business
Lin Davidson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7:17 PM.
Public Comments/Concerns
Mr . Davidson, Chairman inquired if there were any Public Bodies present that
would like to make a statement . There were none
Other Business
Larry Sharpsteen brought to the Board' s attention that he heard on the local
radio that the Town Board is considering changing the term of the Planning
Board Members from the current seven (7) year term to a three (3) year term .
Ms . Moynihan Schmitt indicated she was not at the Meeting however, she has
been advised a discussion did take place regarding the term length, however no
action was taken . Ms . Moynihan Schmitt further indicated Supervisor Pinney
made it perfectly clear that he slid not want to put a limit on the number of terms
you can have consecutively because he felt new Members do need time to bring
them selves up to speed .
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APPROVE 01 /26/09 PEI
SALT Review- . Tempt 1. Lot Subdivision , Applicant : Patricia Porter ,
11. Auburn Road, Tax 'Parcel #
Mr Porter appeared before the Planning Board requesting an Exempt . Lot
Subdivision ,
Larry Sharpsteen inquired from Jeffrey Overstrom if the use was an allowable
one for the IR District_ Ar . Averstrom indicated there is no proposed use, Just a
Sobd.ivision. Mr . Sharpsteen further explained his point being the Board can not
create e Subdivision for en illegal use . M1Ara completing the SPQR, the Board
inert take into consideration the use of land _ l i the use is not allowed in the
District, then the Pleraing Board is creating an illegal Subdivision . It was the
consensus of the Board to document on he SFR Form that the Board is only
Looking at vacant land _
The Planning Board reviewed 'Part I of the Short Environmental Assessment
:Form completed by the Applicant and completed .bart II by the 'lazing Board
Members, It was noted on the SPQR Form that no affects dee to change of lot
lines occurred . No significant adverse eoniremnenteI impact or effects were
identified in .part II Pp the Planning Board Members .
Edarnas Elks made a motion to declare a negative declaration . David Hatfield
seconded ,
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Ayre
Nancy Lona() - Aye
Viola Miller - Ape
Richard Prybyl - Ade
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
Nancy Loncto made a motion requesting that the Tompkins County B9
recommendation with regards to enters / ingress be noted on the Survey . Larry
Sharpsteen seconded ,
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Thomas bilis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Nancy Lorick' - Aye
Viola Miller - Aye
Richard EMApl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
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Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
SEER Review - Exempt 2 Lot Subdivision , Applicant: Kyle
Stauffeneker, Goodman Road, Tax Parcel # PSD 20.-4 -8. 22
Kyle Stan ffeneker appeared before the Planning Board for a t Lot Subdivision _
Mr. Overstrain advised the Board the only issue with this particular parcel
would be the drainage . In a letter received late AM addressed to the Town
Board, the Starner Farm had concerns with future development due to drainage
irreer . Mr_ Overstrom further stated he has spoke with Mr . Stauff.eneker and Ice
]gas presented plans For e Single Family Home that will have all drainage routed
towards the back of the parcel _ There will be no additional drainage A the front
to travel along Ceebman Toad down to the Starner property _
The Planning Board reviewed Part I of the Short Environmental Assessment
:Form completed by the Applicant and completed Part l ] by the Planning Board
Members_ It was noted on the PELT Form that no affects due to change of lot
lines occurred . No significant adverse environmental impact or effects were
identified in Part II by the Plaiuming Board Members _
• Larry Sharpateen noted for the record. that this is basically just a big corn field
and is adjacent to the old abandoned Town Line Road , There are no
.dreheologicaI or Historical significance .
David Hatfield made a motion to declare a negative declaration . Nancy Loncto
seconded _
TOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Nancy Lonato - Aye
Viola Miller - Aye
Richard Crybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION TARRIED.
tatenrent of Intent to Comply -Lansing Commons. Cayuga Vista
Drive, Tac Parcel # 37. 1 -2-23. 222
'Is_ Moynihan Schmitt explained there was a discussion about the feasibility
conference having already been affected in so far as the Application had gone
through the precess up until this point and would the Planning Board entertain a
• conversion to a PDT and go right to the Statement of Intent . Jeffrey Overstrain
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stated Mr . Matteson and Mr Seacord. have done so much en the project to this
• point, that the lawn Board and Planning Office are on board with them and
asked them to proceed to Section M ,
Larry Sharpsteen stated that more than once the Planning Board felt that a P D A
would Pr inare than appropriate for this type of proposal -
Nancy Loncta made a /notinn to set a Public Hearing for Monday, February 23,
2009 at 7. 25 Phi and offered the following resolution. harry htarpsteen
seconded .
The fel Lo drp Resolution was offered ;
RESOLUTION No. 0 -08
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING BOARD
ACCEPTING REQUEST OF APPLIdAs] T, J. RONALD SEACORD, 7'D CONVERT LANSING
COMMONS SUBMVSION APPLICATION CD AN APPLICATION FOR PDA APPROVAL
AND ACCEPTING THE APPLICANT'S JANUARY 7, 2009 STATEMENT OF INTENT TO
CD MaLY WITH TI•IE CONDITIONS AND SPECIFICATIONS UNDER WHICH SAID
APPLICATION FOR PDA CONSIDERATION MAO BE APPROVED BY 'FHE PLLANNING
BOARD PURSUANT TO LANSING LAND USE ORDINANCE SECTION 706.5
• WHEREAS , Applicant, Donald .I . Seacord , has requested .Planning Board Approval to
permit conversion to a PDA of the pending application for Lansing Commons
Subdivision and Site Plan approval of a 13 . 559 acre three (3 ) phase residential and
commercial iaxed ass development in the Dl District located a the south of intersection
of Cayuga Lista Drive and i eadsedge Drive in the Town of Lansing, 7/0 Tax irlap
Parcel 37 - 1 -2 - 53 - 222 ; and
WHEREAS , the Applicant ' s Engineer, slaws Matteson , Jr . , RE . has submitted e
Preliminary PDA Proposal, dated January 7, 2009 , and a Statement of Intent to Comply
with Conditions and Specifications of the Planning Board , dated January 7, 2005 ,
respecting the Lansing Coinmear PLO Proposal ; and
DMN. RFEA , on January 00, 2009, the Planning Board considered and carefully reviewed
the Applicant ' s aforementioned Preliminary Proposal and Statement of Intent to Comply
and reserves the right to identify potential ether conditions and specifications for
recommended approval of the Lansing Commons PDA application as the public
comment pried and review period of the proposed Lansing Commons RDA progresses ;
and
'WHEREAS, upon due consideration and deliberation by the. Town of Lansing Planning
Board , now there.,fora he it
• RESDLDPI : that the Preliminary Proposal and Slatement of Intent to Comply is
accepted by the Planning Board which reserves the right to identify potential other
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conditions and specifications for approval of the Lansing Commons PDA application as
• the public comment period and review period of the proposed Lansing Cominons PDA
progresses , and is it further
RESOLVED : Oat the PDA public oonlment period be commenced, pursuant to Section
706 . 4 of the Lansing .[amend Use Ordinance and that, in accordance with Section 706 - 3 . 7
thereof, within five (5 ) days of the date of this resolution , the Applicant endior the
Planning Department shall notify landowners within 600 feet of the subject property that
a PD .C. has been submitted for consideration and that ail application documents are
available for review in the .Pansine. Planning and Code Enforcement Office ; and it is
further
RESOLVED : that a public hearing on the proposal shall be duly publicly noticed and
held by the Lansing Planning Board on February 23 , 2009 et 7 : 25 P .M. respecting the
determination of the Planning Board as to ,whether it shall recommend to the Town Board
e disapproval of the LOA development or recommend e conditional approval subject to
such conditions set forth to the Statement of Intent to Comply andlor conditions
otherwise imposed by the Planning Board and subject to completion of the required
LQR environmental review pursuant to the Lansing Land Are Ordinance Section 706 . 5 .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Nancy Lando - Aye
Villa Miller - Aye
110 Richard Pcybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpateen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED .
Further Discussion - Lansing Commons
Thomas Ellis concerns :
1 . Original proposal indicated " affordable housing" , this is not,
P. Maximum density for the proposal greeds to be sot.
3 . Package Plant designed for the maximum capacity .
4 . Amend the v riling on page 4 under Sewer and Mater Systems to clearly
state that any cost for operating this system will be handled by the
Developer first and any balance by the Benefit District .
Larry Sl orpsteen agreed with the Plant doing built from the beginning to handle
maximum capacity .
lAlayne Matteson states his understanding is they will have to return at the
• beginning of every phase before anything else can happen, The .Package Plant
they are proposing is a 15, 000 gallon a days . Basically the first phase goes to build
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Mt excluding the pnssibl.y of 4-5 unit Apartments going in to the first 2 lots. The
• .First phase will not exceed 2,000 gallons per day , Mr . Matteson states he recently
spoke with the DEC to get approval far 15,000 gallons per. day . If in the second
phase e modification. needs to be done, it will be done at that time before any
Further work can move forward .
Nancy Loncto requested from Mr, Matteson that he obtain examples from the
DECof other places that have a similar Treatment Plant.
tarry Sharpstcen inquired es to vvhat point does the Tcrmr take over ownership
of the plant? Mr. Sharpsteen felt the boards concerts are;
1. . Amend the wording on page 4 under darner and bloater Systems to clearly
state that any cost for operating this system will. be handle{ be the
Developer first and any balance by the Benefit District.
2. Maximum density established for the proposed plant
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3 . At what point does the Town take over. the Plant from the Developer.
H . date-Ca ea Farms Town Homes H. Tri - yammer Road Tan
Parcel # 37. 1 -6-3 .362
Lin Davidson, Chairman received e tetter this evening from e. resident residing
near the proposed project. Mr . Davidson read the following;
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Mr . Buhl indicated the concerns with regards to the pathways, bus pull offs and
buffers were addressed , One small change to the overall project was made due
to a boundary change conflict. A sewer layout was submitted to David Herrick
and Jeff Overstrow. Their recommendations were received and the plans revised _ •
Thomas Ellis requested that in the north rection of the proposal a bus pull off be
added to accommodate the residents of that area ,
fiddle hdiller felt the walkways presented are good only for sulrurrer, spring- and
falI walking . Els _ duller states they will not withstand winter plowing .
The project will begun with the entire road and storrnvyra ter . The actual
construction of the Units will be phased in .
A homeowners association will be formed . The road will not be e dedicated
Town hoed . Nancy 'Loncto had great concerns with not having sideways . Ms .
Loocto expressed that she reviewed the Tompkins County Walking report an
found cut that e Pb mph speed zone where walking paths are a part of, or the
dear, have incidents of death of e rate of 850 because of no sidewalks .
Mr . Buhl clearly stared each building can get to a bus pull off without walking in
or along the street_ Mr, Buhl explained the storto eater issues with regards to
sidewalks ,
Is . Loncto felt the Town should not take over the road due to liability issues
with no side walks .
Mr_ Pryb l felt the Planning Board should set a speed limit restriction on the
approval,
Concerns with regards to the public school bus being able to access the private
road were discussed _ Mr . Buhl will return with a Letter from the school
regarding this issue .
The Planning Board Members reviewed the follovving list of benefits, potentially
counseling; in favor of the sewer contingency, which were discussed by Lansing
Town Supervisor, A, Scott Pinney , the Developer ' s Engineer, Tim Buhl , the
.Engineering 8r Planning Coordinator, Jeff Overstrom , Lansing Town Legal
Counsel, Guy K. Krogh, doh , Acting Planning Board Chair, Peru Ellis and
Planning Board Member, 'Larry Sharpsteen, at a November. 26, 2008 Developer' s
Conference meeting :
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(1) Cost of installation and construction of sewer infrastructure to be bonze
entirely by the Applicant thereby effectively creating a " no cost" sewer
district for the benefit of the down ; and
(2) Construction of a new standard force pumping station at the Cherry Road
and Triphammer .Road intersection at no cost to the Town; and
(3) Construction of the proposed infrastructure will allow future public tie-
ins to the gravity portion of the newly installed sewer infrastructure at
various intervals along the pipeline route and potential for gravity main
tie -ins to the new pumping station which will facilitate future extensions
benefiting the Town; and
)d) Dedication by the Applicant/ Developer of the new sewer facilities to the
Town of 'Lansing at no cost to the Town or condition or restxictiorn to the
Town or the Town' s Sewer District to be created to manage the same, with
the district charges only to be applied to the Cayuga Farms 'Deve iopment
property _ Future eapansins to be based upon a " cast of expansion only
basis, with no recapture of infrastructure costs to be recouped by the
Appl icon t/ Developer .
• At the November 26 MN Development Conference, the aforementioned
individuals discussed the above benefits and determined that they weighed in
favor of granting the preliminary site plan approval with proposed sewer
contingencies _ The Planning 'Board was advised that, because of these extensive
benefits to the Town of Lansing, the Town would be in favor of a contingency
approval if the Planning Board deemed such an approval appropriate, upon full
review of the Preliminary Site Plan with the preliminary sewer specifications
required by the Town Engineer, including but not limited to engineering plans
sdawiirg the proposer/ sewer design at full build out and at a tvventy (Pb) year
projection depicting proposed location of pipes and pumping station, and
depicting requisite flow rates, calibrations, and other specifications .
.Nancy Loncto stated that the above benefits are appropriate for the Town Board
to consider but that, in the preliminary site plan review process, the Planning
Board can only weigh the above benefits in the context of a determination of
whether these benefits further the objectives of the Lansing Comprehensive Plan
governing the ]..arnd Use Ordinance .
The Planning Board members also discussed the requisite for additions [ agency
• approvals, such that a potential targe contingency approval for sewer could be
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approved only if the applicant/ developer obtains all of He required agency
• sewer approvals including, but not limited to the Village of Lansing, Village of
Cayuga Heights, New York State Department of Environmental Conservation,
Hew York State Department of Transportation and Town of Lansing sewer
district approvals and Consolidated Water. Extension approvals_
The Pla acing kee rk members requested a time Line /rano the Devel.oper' s
Engineer, Tiny Buhl , outlining time frames for sewer construction., district
formation, and approvals from. the other involved municipalities including the
Village of Cayuga Heights and ICa Village of Lansing_
Nancy Loncta made a motion to set a SEC Part II Public ]=searing for, 'Monday,
February 23, 2009 at CdO CCI . Thomas Ellis seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Nancy Luncto - Aye
Viola Miller - Aye
Richard Prybyl - Aye
Larry Shupsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED.
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Nancy Loncto made to set a Public Hearing on the Preliminary Site Plan Review
for, Monday , March 9, 2009 at 7 : 32 PIM , Thomas Ellis seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Nancy Lando a Aye
Viola Miller - Aye
Richard krybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED .
Approv41/D vial of December 10 2007 & d nuary 12 , 2009 Minutes
December 10, 2007 flinuter
Nancy Concto male a motion to approve the Minutes of December 10, 2007 as
• submitted . Thomas Ellis seconded ,
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VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Thomas EIlis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Nancy Loneto - Aye
Viola Miller - Aye
Richard hrybyl y Abstained
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
bin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED .
January 12 , 2909 Minutes
Thomas Ellis stated on page 3 , ander Larry Sharpsteen that it be
reworded to
rash as follows :
• Larry Sharpsteen made a motion acknowlarlging the extension as being
within the original Site Clan as it does not chi nye the plan from the
original presentation which included access, lighting, drainage, parking
and safety .
Thomas Ellis stated on page 7, fourth paragraph should read as follows;
• • jell Overstrain stated as the result of the December Meeting, he believed
the overall consensus was Mr . Bahl was asking the Town to provide
.Preliminary approval with the cc.mtingency to provide sewer. lie then
would. go ahead with lis sewer plans . What the Town is asking for
before considering a contingency, is inure details _ The Aaron needs to
know exactly what infrastructure is proposed .
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt states on page 3, under Marl< wheeler, she was not
at that Meeting_
Thomas Ellis made a motion to accept as amended . Larry bhatpsteen seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Nancy Lando - Aye
Viola Miller - Aye
Richard drybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson Aye
• MOTION CARRIED.
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Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to adjourn the Meeting . David Hatfield
• seconded .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - Aye
Nancy Loncto - Aye
Viola Miller - Aye
Richard Prybyl - Aye
Larry Sharpsteen - Aye
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED .
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Agenda
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Time: Agenda Topics
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7 : 15 P.M . Public Comments/Concerns
7 : 20 P. M . SEQR Review - Exempt 1 Lot Subdivision , Applicant : Patricia
Porter, Auburn Road , Tax Parcel # 31 . - 1 - 15 . 2
7 : 30 PM SEQR Review — Exempt 1 Lot Subdivision , Applicant : Kyle
Stauffeneker, Goodman Road , Tax Parcel # P/0 20 . - 1 - 5 . 22
7 : 40 PM Approval of Statement of Intent to Comply -Lansing Commons .
Cayuga Vista Drive , Tax Parcel # 37 . 1 - 2 -53 . 222
5 : 00 PM Update- Cayuga Farms Town Homes, N . Triphammer Road , Tax
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