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Tolcodes
From : " Dan Veaner" <dan@lansingstar.com >
To : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny. rr . com>
Sent: Friday , March 20 , 2009 1111 AM
Subject : Re : Pd Advertisment- error
Hi Rachael ,
All set and l even made it a link .
Best,
Dan
Dan Veaner
Editor , Lansing Star Online
PO Box 299
Lansing , NY 14882
( 607 ) 533 - 4567
www . LansingStar . com
Tolcodes wrote :
Good Morning Dan,
lam requesting that you correct the email address listed in the paid notice . It should be:
tolcodes@twcnv . rr.com
Thank you,
Rachel
3/20/2009
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr. com >
To : " Dan Veaner" <dan@lansingstar.com >
Sent: Friday, March 20 , 2009 8 :41 AM
Subject: Pd Advertisment- error
Good Morning Dan,
I am requesting that you correct the email address listed in the paid notice . It should be:
tolcodes© tweny . rr.com
Thank you ,
Rachel
3/2012009
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Tolcodes
From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr.com>
To : "Dan Veaner" <dan@lansingstar. com>
Sent : Wednesday , March 18 , 2009 9 : 08 AM
Attach : April 13 , 2009 Training . pdf
Subject : Town of Lansing Training
Hi Dan,
I wouldlike to have this notice printed in your upcoming issue of the Lansing Star .
Please remit bill directly to my attention . Any further questions or concerns, please contact me at 533-7054.
Thank you ,
Rachel
3 /20/2009
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Town of Lansing
New York Planning federation Training Session :
Apri113, 2009 at 6:30 p.m.. at the Lansing Town Hall.
29 Auburn Road, Lansing, New York
Mr. Scott Chatfield , from the New York State Planning Federation, will be
offering a free training seminar addressing best administrative practices and the
roles and responsibilities of the parties involved in town land use and planning:
Planning Board, .7,}311, Town Board , Planning & Zoning Department/ Engineer
and Planning Coordinator, Code Enforcement Office, and Planning & Zoning
Committee .
You may submit your specific questions in advance for Mr. Chatfield to
a.ddxess at the training session by sending them directly to the Town of Lansing
Planning Department at Tolcodes@twcny .rr.com . The questions will be
forwarded in advance of the training session to Mr. Chatfield . Questions will
also be encouraged during the training .
Members of the community at large are encouraged to attend, as well as
other officials from Towns throughout Tompkins County.
A sign in sheet will be available for those who would like this training
session to count towards their four hours of New York State required training .
You must provide the contact information for the Town you would Iike notified
of your. training .
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes©twcny . rr .com >
To : " Nancy Loncto" <njs6 © Einaudi . Cornell . edu >
Sent : Monday, March 16 , 2009 8 : 58 AM
Subject : Re: Cayuga Farm Town Houses
Yes, will do.
Rachel
Original Message
From : Nancy Loncto
To : Tolcodes
Sent : Monday , March 16, 2009 8 : 26 AM
Subject : RE : Cayuga Farm Town Houses
Dear Rachel ,
I am headed out of town on work tomorrow morning to DC .
Would it be possible for you to put my packet in the mail as I will not be returning until late on Sunday ?
Thanks for your consideration .
Nancy
This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s) . if
you are not the named recipient you should not read , distribute, copy or alter this email UNLESS
otherwise noted .
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From : "Marc A. Catone" <marc_catone@yahoo. com>
To : <tolcodes@twcny. rr.com>
Sent: Friday, March 13 , 2009 11 : 55 AM
Subject: Cayuga Farm Town Houses
Dear Planning Board Members,
I live at 25 Atwater Rd in the Town of Lansing . i was unable to attend the recent meeting about the
proposed Cayuga Farm Town Houses , and I realize another meeting Nvi11 occur in the future , but in case
I can't attend that one, I wanted to let you know my thoughts on this now .
I read the article about the meeting in the Lansing Star, and find that 1 concur with the many opinions •
expressed that there are a lot of unanswered questions about many aspects of this proposed project . I am
concerned about the environmental impact on the area, but as someone who has traveled Triphammer
Rd almost daily for over 30 years, I am most distressed over the impact this project will have on
traffic . . . particularly traffic trying to access Triphammer from l-lillcrest, Asbury Dr, Horvath , and last, but
certainly not least , Asbury Rd .
I find it amazing that the traffic study done by the builders, showing well over 6,000 vehicles traveling
on Triphammer each day, is not considered to be a major concern . Traffic is a nightmare all ready for
anyone trying to access Triphammer from the aforementioned roads, especially at the intersection of
Asbury and Triphammer . Just yesterday , there was a major accident there .
The traffic increase because of Cayuga Farm Town Houses would be an unbelievable problem for •
motorists . l do not think a bus route to and from the project would alleviate that situation . Thetnly
thing that might calm traffic down , it the Town Houses were built, is a traffic light at the intersection of
Asbury Rd and Triphammer, which you may know takes a long time to be approved .
Just wanted to share my thoughts on this .
Sincerely,
Marc Catone
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr. com >
To : " Lin Davidson" <nldl @comell . edu> ; "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt"
< LSchmitt@thalerandthaler . com>
Sent : Monday , March 09 , 2009 929 AM
Attach : 2009 PB Resolutions - Motions . xls
Subject: 2009 PB Resolutions - Motions
Lin and Lorraine,
Please update your files accordingly .
Thank you ,
Rachel
3/9/2009
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Tolcodes
From : "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt" <Ischmitt@thalerandthaler.com >
To : "' Lin Davidson"' <nldl @cornell . edu > ; "'Jeff Overstrom '" <joverstrom@twcny. rr . com>
Cc : " 'Tolcodes"' <tolcodes@twcny . rr. com>
Sent : Monday, February 23 , 2009 9 :49 AM
Attach : 2-23-09 Lansing Commons Resolution To Recommend to TB Conditional PDA Approval , doc
Lin & Jeff:
Given the amount of public we expect at tonight' s meeting, i think we will want to have hard
copies of the draft resolution available after Lin weighs in on any other proposed conditions
(e . g; walkways, . . . etc . ) - and / or an overhead slides of the resolution and the Statement of Intent
and Addendum. thereto . .
I think we will want to have some project description and maps posted for public review as
well and an easel available for the developer to answer questions . . .
I think extra effort in preparation could be extremely helpful for the board and the planning
department in the long run . Let me know what you think and howl can help .
Thanks,
Lorraine
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq.
Partner, Thaler & Thaler
309 North Tioga Street
P.O. Box 266
Ithaca, New York 14851 -0266
Telephone: (607) 272-2314
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny. rr . com>
To : "Timothy Buhl' <tcbuhl@verizon . net>
Sent: Thursday , February 12 , 2009 2 :31 PM
Subject: Cayuga Farms-Lg Drawings
Please provide us with a set of the large drawings for Cayuga Farms as requested by Jeff.
Thank you,
Rachel
2/ 12/2009
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To : "Jeff Overstrornm cjoverstrom twcny . rr_com > : " Lin Davidson ' cnld 't@cornell , edu > ; "'Nancy
Loncto" cnjse@Einaucli . ornell , edu >
Cc : "Tolcodesr'r < tolcodes twcny . rr . com >
Sent : Tuesday, February 24 , 2009 3 : 12 PM
Attach : SEQRA Notice of Intent - Cayuga Farms _doc
Subject: Cayuga Farms SEAR
Please see attached prepared Planning Board Notice of Intent to Act as Lead Agency in the
Cay >r1.ge] Farms SEQR review . this same fen: m can be used for any Future projects .
Please a-.ote that the .N I should be attached to a List of .recipients and the packet needs to
include the applicahon materials as well as the. LEAF .
'The preliminary .I dit I Agencies that I have identified are as follows :
Tompkins County Planning Department
Village of Lansing
Village of Cayuga Heights
DH
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NYSDEC
Bolton Point Sewer &z Water Districts
ISOPRHP
Lansing Housing Authority
"Tompkins County Ind ustrial Development Authority (Empire Zone)
Please let me know if you need anything else at this point
Thanks,
Lorra i ri
Lorraine Mori ikin n SCI' intiLt, Esq.
Purim Hrr 'rhprtr & Thaler
309 Norllti "I'ioga SLnu1
Pio. Bc 's 261i
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STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
(" SEQRA")
NOTICE OF INTENT
ESTABLISHMENT OF SEQRA LEAD AGENCY
• TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD
TO : Involved and Interested Agencies (see attached list)
DATED :
This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 . 6(b) of the implementing regulations pertaining
to Article 8 of the State Environmental Conservation Law ( State Environmental Quality Review
Act) .
Please take notice that the Town of Lansing Planning Board has determined that it is
willing to act as SEQRA Lead Agency for environmental review of the proposed action
described below and shall coordinate environmental review pursuant to Article 8 of the ECL and
Implementing Regulations (6 NYCRR Part 617 ) .
Name of Action : Cayuga Farms Townhomes
SEQRA Status : Type 1
Description of Action : Residential development of approximately 41 .44 acres into 138
condominium townhomes .
The Project consists of the following: •
Development of 138 condominium townhomes on 41 .44 acres of
land . Twenty-seven (27) residential buildings will be constructed
that will house 4-6 dwellings each . Approximately 600 LF of new
Town roadway and 2 ,200 LF of private internal roadway will be
constructed, along with a similar amount of new public water and
sewer mains to serve the development . A pumping station and
sewer force main will be used to connect to the Village of
Lansing/Cayuga Heights wastewater collection system .
Location : The Project Site is located in the Town of Lansing, County of
Tompkins, State of New York. The proximate Project Site
boundaries are within tax parcel numbers 37 .-6-3 . 362 and 37 . 1 -
6 . 3 . 35 located on the west side of North Triphammer Road , in the
Town of Lansing, New York.
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Contact Person : Jeff Overstrom
Engineer & Planning Coordinator
Lansing Town Hall •
29 Auburn Road
Lansing, New York 14882
(607 ) 533 -7054
Please take further notice that unless any involved agency objects to this determination
and Intent of Lead Agency status within thirty ( 30) calendar days of the above date, the Town of
Lansing Planning Board shall be deemed Lead Agency.
Dated : Lansing, New York
February , 2009
Town of Lansing Planning Board
By:
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created from said release of said effluent into Minneger Brook and/ or the
Quarry located on the adjacent property owned by Tom Besemer, and
final discharge into Cayuga Lake . Any identified significant negative
impacts should be mitigated to the maximum extend practicable and the
Developer must obtain all requisite effluent discharge approvals,
including SPEDEb Permits issued by die NY DEC;
A Cost of Operation of the Sewer and Water Systems shall be initially borne
by the Developer with any balance charged to the Benefit District;
3. Creation and Town Board Approval -of requisite Sewer ez Wastewater
Districts;
4. The Proposed Sewage Package Plant must be designed and built for
maximum capacity of the proposed PDA project;
. Maximum Density for the entire project must be identified by the
Applicant and approved by the Town Board in its PDA Approval;
4,
5 .
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nab it is further
RESOLVED, that the Planning Department/ Code Enforcement Office shall assist the
Town Board Sr setting public hearing(s) for Town Board consideration of the PDA and
bEQR review, said hearing(s) to be held bo the Town Board within 45 days of this
resolution pursuant to Section 706, 6 .1 of the Town of Lansing Land Use Ordinance .
Town Board conditional approval or disapproval of the PDA is to be issued bo the
Town Board within 30 days of the Town hoard public hearing pursuant to Section 706 .5
of the Town Of Lansing Land Use Ordinance.
ebruary 23, 2009
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RESOLUTION No. 09-
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING BOARD
RECOMMENDING TO TOWN BOARD CONDITIONS AND SPECIFICATIONS
UNDER WHICH LANSING COMMONS PDA APPLICATION MAY BE
CONSIDERED FOR PUN APPROVAL BY THE TOWN BOARD
WHEREAS, Applicant, Ronald J . Seeeord , has requested Town Board Approval of a
PDA Application respecting 13559 acre three (2 ) phase residential and commercial
mixed use development in the 131 District located at the south of intersection of Cayuga
Vista Drive and Woodsedge Drive in the Town of Lansing, P/ O Tan Nap Parcel 37-1 -2-
53 .22; and
WHEREAS, the Lansing Planning Board has considered and carefully reviewed the
Applicant's Statement of Intent to Comply with Conditions and Specifications of the
Planning Board, dated January 7, 2009 and Addendum thereto dated February 3, 2009,
respecting Na Lansing Commons PDT Proposal; and
WHEREAS, the Public Comment Period an the Application was commenced on
January 26, 2009 pursuant to Section 706 , 5 of the Lansing Land Use Ordinance and a
public hearing was held by the Lansing Planning Board on February 23, 2009 respecting
Planning Board consideration of the PRA Application materials and the Applicant's
Statement of Intent and Addendum , as well as consideration of whether the Planning
Board should recommend to the Town Board either ( 1 ) disapproval of the proposed
PDA development or (2) conditional approval of the EDA development subject to such
conditions set forth in the Statement of Intent to Comply and Addendum thereto
and / or any other conditions otherwise imposed by the Planning Board ; and
WHEREAS, et the public hearing held on February 23, 2009, the residents of the Town
of Lansing were given a full opportunity to be heard respecting the PDT Development
Proposal and the Planning Board reviewed said concerns of the residents, including
concerns respecting the following potential impacts of the project
; and
WHEREAS, on January 26, 2009 and February 2 , 2009, the Planning Board, pursuant to
Lansing Land Use Ordinance Section 706 .5, underwent site plan review of the proposed
PDT development, and has considered and carefully reviewed the requirements of the
Land Use Ordinance Section 701 et see ., relative to Planning Board site plan review and
the unique needs of the Town clue to the topography, the soil types and distributions,
and other natural and Irian made features upon and surrounding the area of the
proposed Site Plan, and consideration of storm water drainage, erosion control,
parking, water and sewer facilities, driveways, site lighting, off site impacts, roadways
and walkways, height regulations, landscaping, open space, and compliance with other
state, county and local agency regulations; and the Planning Board has also considered
the Town ' s Comprehensive Plan and compliance therewith; and
WHEREAS, upon due consideration and deliberation by the Town of Lansing Planning
Board, now therefore be it
RESOLVED, that pursuant to Section 706 ..5 of the Town Of Lansing Land Use
Ordinance the Planning Board is recommending to the Town Board that the Town
Board conditionally approve the PDA application subject to such conditions set forth in
the Statement of Intent to Comply and Acidenclurns thereto and also subject to the
following additional conditions recommended bv the Planning Board :
1 . The Town Board's SEQR environmental review of the project should
carefully scrutinize the Developer's proposed wastewater effluent
discharge into IVIinnegar Brook for any significant negative impacts
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr.com>
To : "J . Ronald Seacord" <excelsiorsys@yahoo . com> ; "Timothy Buhl" <tcbuhl@verizon . net> ; "Larry
Fabbroni" <Fabbroni@aol . com > ; "Wayne Matteson" <wmatteson@frontiernet . net>
Cc : "Jeff Overstrom" <joverstrom@twcny . rr , com>
Sent : Thursday , February 19 , 2009 11 :28 AM
Attach : 02 -23-09 PB Agenda .doc
Subject : Planning Board Agenda
FYI . . .
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From : "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt" <Ischmitt@thalerandthaler. com>
To : " 'Tolcodes"' <tolcodes@twcny . rr , com >
Sent : Friday , February 20 , 2009 3 : 13 PM
Subject: RE : Lansing Commons
Received and thank von !
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Fxl .
Partner, 1'liale_r, &. limier
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P.O. Box 266
Ithaca, New York 14351 -4266
Telephone: (607) 272-2314
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'From : Tolcodes Tolcodes [mailto : tolcodeseitwcny . rr. com]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11 : 51 AM
To : Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt
Cc: Jeff Overstrom
Subject: Lansing Commons
Lorraine ,
Per your request.
Thank you ,
Rachel
2/23 /2009
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If you are a Lansing citizen I urge you to attend a public meeting at 6 p . m. Tuesday , Feb . 24 in the
Lansing Town Hall . It is important for all of us to express our opinion about the highly unusual
proposed new local law #3-2009, to reduce the terms of our Planning Board members from seven to
three years and change the rules followed by the Board .
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New York state town law calls for terms of seven years for a seven -member board and five years for a •
five-member board with appointments each year. The purpose of the current state law dictating seven -
or five-year appointments is to ensure independent, informed and fair citizen oversight of the town's
development .
Our current law is part of state town law; the proposed law is not.
So, why is our Town Board taking this action ?
Under the new law, the Planning Board will no longer be an independent citizen group able to provide
consistent oversight of the town's planning and development process. They will not have the
advantage of the extensive training and knowledge base of the current planning board members and
the decisions they make will likely be less informed by our laws and practices .
A copy of the proposed law can be obtained by calling the Lansing Town Clerk at 533-4142 .
Ruth Hopkins
Lansing
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Lansing may shorten terms
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At 6 p .m . on Tuesday, Feb . 24 at the Lansing Town Hall , the Town Board will hold a public
hearing on proposed Local Law #3 of 2009 , which would change the terms of office of Planning
Board members from seven to three years and review its rules and procedures . If passed , this
law would allow the Town Board to appoint all members of the Planning Board within the term of
a town supervisor. New York State Town Law calls for terms of five or seven years "to foster
continuity on the planning board and avoid wholesale changes based on the political whims of the
party (or persons) in power at any given time." Since Local Law #3 is contrary to state town law,
the town must declare "home rule" to supersede it .
One year ago, the Town Board also invoked "home rule" in removing from the Planning Board
substantial responsibility for subdivision regulations and giving more administrative responsibility
to the town planningfcode officer who reports directly to the town supervisor, Both of these
actions reduce not only the legally mandated independence of the Planning Board , but also its
effectiveness in serving the residents of the Town of Lansing .
As a former Planning Board member who resigned last year, I urge you to attend the Town Board
meeting at 6 p . m . on Feb. 24 to "get the facts" and express your opinions before the vote . The
future of Lansing depends on your participation .
Larry Zuidema
Lansing
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From : "Jeff Overstrom" <joverstrom@twcny. rr . com>
To : "Rachel Jacobson " <tolcodes@twcny . rr . com >
Sent : Tuesday , February 1712009 9 : 57 AM
Attach : Lansing_Flyer . pdf
Subject : Fw: Important Town Board Meeting
Jeffrey L . Overstrom , .EIT
Engineering & Planning Coordinator
Town of Lansing
29 Auburn Road
Lansing, NY 14882
(607 ) 533 - 7054
(607) 533 -3507 fax
----- Original Message
From : Sharon Bowman
To : '3 Shattuck' ; 'Bud Shattuck' ; 'Connie Wilcox'. ; 'Marty_Christopher' ; ' Matt Besemer' ; Scott Pinney
Cc : Guy K Krogh ; Jeff Overstrom
Sent : Tuesday, February 17 , 2009 9 : 32 AM
Subject: FW: Important Town Board Meeting
I thought you all might be interested in this .
Sharon
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I just got this message from a neighbor on Fiddlers Green . i am concerned that the proposed Town
Board changes to the Planning Board will adversely affect the quality of life of Lansing citizens.
Bob Nagel
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• Hello , Neighbors,
On Tuesday evening, February 24, at 6 : 00 p . m . , the Lansing Town Board is holding a public hearing
putting forth its intention to revamp the Town's Planning Board . This change contradicts the intent of
New York State Town Law and will significantly reduce and/or eliminate the independence of the
Planning Board from the political influence of the Town Board and its Supervisor. As you are aware , the
Town Board proposed last year to gut many of the existing zoning protections that residential
communities now enjoy. With the changes it is now proposing to the Planning Board , the Town Board
will consolidate its influence/control of the Planning Board and be one step closer to realizing its plan to
substantially weaken our existing well -conceived zoning protections .
Please open and read the notice attached to this email and plan to attend the Lansing Town Board
meeting at e Lansing Town Hall on February 24 at 6 : 00 p . m .
Jim
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T NOTICE * * * *
Lansing Town Board Meeting
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 24 • 6PM
Come to learn and give us your opinion !
If you live in the Town of Lansing and want to see a thoughtful and
consistent approach to planing and development, then you will want to
find out about the highly unusual proposed change in our law that will
remove the independence of our Planning Board and likely result in
political appointments . This contradicts the intent of NY State Town
Law Section 271 .
The new proposed " home rule " law is available from the Lansing Town
Clerk , 607-533 -4142 .
410 The proposed new local law would reduce the terms of our Planning Board
members from 7 to 3 years and change the rules followed by the Board .
The purpose of the NYS law on planning Boards is to assure independent,
informed, and fair citizen oversight of the town 's development. However, if
this new local Law is passed , it will allow the Town Board to appoint all
members of the Planning Board within the 4-year term of our elected
Town Supervisor, and a majority within the first two years ! This means the
Planning Board will no longer be independent from political influence . Its
decisions will likely become political rather than providing independent
citizen administrative oversight as intended by NY State law.
This is an important moment for you to take part in the future of your
community. Come to the meeting ! Ask questions ! And make your
opinions count !
If you would like to dialog about Lansing in a non - partisan forum with
access to facts and information please visit http ://lansingmatters . org .
® Concerned Citizens of Lansing
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Tolcodes
From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr. com>
To : "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt" <LSchmitt@thalerandthaler . com>
Cc : "Jeff Overstrom" <joverstrom@twcny . rr.com >
Sent : Tuesday, February 10 , 2009 11 : 16 AM
Attach : NYSDEC -LFEAF - NTRIPHAMMER2 . 01 -26 -09 . pdf
Subject: Cayuga Farms -revised EAF
Lorraine,
Attached please find the revised EAF for Cayuga Farms which they are on the 23rd 's Agenda for a SEQR Public
Hearing . The Lansing Commons is on for a Public Hearing to approve w/ conditions or denial of FDA
Application . A Public 1-Learing to complete the SEQR has not been set yet.
;
Thank you ,
Rachel
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From : "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt" <Ischmitt@thalerandthaler. com>
To : " 'Tolcodes'" <tolcodes@twcny . rr. com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10 , 2009 10 : 15 AM
Subject: RE : 2009 Updated PB Motions-Resolutions
Good Morning, Rachel !
Received and thank you . Whenever you have a chance, can you send me all documents on the
environmental review for Lansing Commons and Cayuga Farms set for public hearings on the
23 '4`1 .
Thanks !
Best,
Lorraine
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt, Esq .
Partner, Thaler & Thaler
309 North Tioga Street
P.O. Box 266
Ithaca, New York 14851 -0266
Telephone; (607) 272-2314
Facsimile: (607) 272-,8466
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From : Tolcodes [mailto : tolcodes@twcny. rr . com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9 : 53 AM
To : Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt; Lin Davidson
Cc: Jeff Overstrom
Subject : 2009 Updated PB Motions- Resolutions
Good Morning,
Please update your files accordingly .
Thank coo , •
Rachel
2/ 10/2009
Save the Date ! NYPF Annual Conference Set for Sept . 13 - 15,
2009
The 2009 Annual NYPF Planning & Zoning Conference will be at the elegant High
Peaks Resort ( formerly the Hilton ) in Lake Placid from Sept . 13 - 15 . Please note that
this is both a change of venue and a change of date , due to numerous requests from
conference attendees . More information will be posted here as it becomes available .
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Tolcodes
From : "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt" <Ischmitt@thalerandthaler. com >
To : "'Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr . com >
Cc : "'Jeff Overstromt" <joverstrom@twcny. rr . com> ; "'Lin Davidson '" <nldl@cornelLedu >
Sent : Thursday , January 29 , 2009 11 : 21 AM
Subject : FW : Cayuga Farms
Rachel — please advise what was said on the tape of the 1 / 26 meeting respecting the issues Lin
raises below so we can get those points in the minutes . . . Thanks !
From : Lin Davidson [ mailto : nldl@cornelLedu ]
Sent : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2 : 39 PM
To : Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt
Subject: Re : Cayuga Farms
Would it be pertinent for the " turnover" process to outlined . The developer / owners association would
hold bond gaurentees if possible until 80% - 100% buildout/ Occupancy so the costs could be bourne
by each unit and a reserve established . Who .will pay fees if condos don 't sell is one thing. If 10 years
from now 50% are vacated what happens ? • 1 guess electricity and gross useage would decline but not
overhead . Bet other towns have a mechanism in place. I3est , lin
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1 /29/2009
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From : "Curry , Jacquelyn " <jcurry@binghamt . gannett . com >
To : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr.com>
Sent : Tuesday , January 27 , 2009 11 : 15 AM
Subject : 2 ITHACA LEGALS RUNNING 1X EACH : 1 /29 : 1AFF EACH : Town of Lansing Legal Notices
Please send all replies directly to legals@pressconnects . com .
Thank you .
J . Curry
From : Tolcodes [mailto : tolcodes@twcny . rr.com]
Sent : Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8 : 33 AM
To : Legals Ithaca Journal
Subject : 2 ITHACA LEGALS RUNNING 1X EACH : 1/ 29 : 1AFF EACH : Town of Lansing Legal Notices
Good Morning Denise,
•
Can you please have these printed ASAP. Also, I will need to have an A fadivit of Service cm these.
Thank you ,
Rachel
Planning/ Zoning/ Code Clerk
Town of Lansing
1 /27/2009
Term limits set for Victor board leaders
1 I. . 1 .
By Mike Ivlaslanik , staff writer
Daily Messenger
Posted Feb12 2009 P. 01 ' 02 PM
Victor, N . Y , —
The Victor Town Board has established two-year term limits for the chairs of the Planning , Zoning and
Conservation boards.
Thelaw will take effect in 2010 , so as not to force out established chairs this year.
The term limits were approved Monday, by a 3-2 vote . Supervisor Jack Marren and Board members
John Accorso and John Palomaki voted in favor of the law , saying that it would give more people a
chance to serve .
" It should be your responsibility as a hoard member, you should be ready to chair the board : said
Accorso, a former chairman of the Planning Board .
In voting against the measure , Deputy Supervisor Jeff Cody said that the Town Board should not
dictate how the other boards are run . Cody }previously served on the Ptenning Board with Accorso .
"We should leave it up to the individual boards ,'° Cody said ,
Board member Peter Hessney said he voted against the resolution because it did not go far enough .
" I want it to include more boards than this , " he said.
There had been no limits restricting how long a chair could serve but there are limits on the number of
years individuals may serve on the town ' s various boards .
The Planning , Zoning and Conservation Boards were included because they are the municipality' s
"major boards , " said Town Attorney Sheila Chalifoux , f=uture legislation could address the "next level "
of boards , like the Board of Ethics and the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board .
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Zoning Board of Appeals Chairwoman Jean Kyrm said she has no disagreement with the term limits.
"There are so many talented people in this town , I think it's a good idea to give other people a chance , "
Kyrm said Tuesday.
The Conservation Board is headed by Marge Elder ; the Planning Board is headed by Robert Davis .
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From : "Tolcodor " otolcodes@lwcnv . rr, enrn>
To : "Matt Besemer" Omatt_ besemerhotmnii _como
Sent: Wednesday , March 25, 2009 3 : 21 PM
Subject : Re : Planning Board Question
Well_ . _ . it goes like this . _ . . . . I was hoping to set the record straight to MB. Nancy with regards to our aOwinistradve
procedures . She mentioned at the SlF Meeting the other night that last year dirt she had made a motion
requesting that the Liaison request that the TB act on ding (appointing Ruth) to the Board , TtiAras mentioned that
possibly the message never got relayed to the TB. . I know you would have brought it up to the Ill) shortly
thereafter the P13 , l just want to let her know that we area competent htunicipa ] ity and we do follow
tt, ruon request, .
Thanks,
Rachel
From : Matt Besemer
To : Code_ Dept_ TOL
Sent : Wednesday, March 25, 2009 0 : 48 PM
Subject: RE : Planning Board Question
Rachel ,
Is this for your information or has someone requested that you Find out?? ? I honestly don 't
remember what was discussed in the executive session on 8/ 20/08 . I do know that I brought it
up more than once that we had one if not more vacancies on the FB , I do recall that with the
differences between the TB and the P8 , no one was real interested lit bringing another variable
into the mix . That is wiry it dragged on as long as it did .
Matt
From : tolcodes@twcny . rr. com
To : Matt , Besemor a hotmail . com
Subject { Planning Board Question
Date : Wed , TF Mar 2009 11 : 00 : 24 - 0400
Hi
Matt,
Got a question for pou . _ . . do you remember way back when the PB was taking Applications and Ruth applied?
The PB went into ltoorotive Session on or around 3/ TI j kb and a 3 part Resolution was voted on . 1 a long with
Lorraine'r help typed up Memo to the Supervisor and I' ll , embers with thea part Resolution For them dr take
action on which they did not. Again on 721 / bd Nancy made a motion requesting that the OB Liai, io,n take the
previous Resolution to the and request that they act on it, After reviewing the 1St Minutes , I see en $/ 20/ Sd
under your report, pen requested that tin TO go into hxecutilie Swrion (did you happen to discuss the vacant
Ansi tion on the Pitt) i do see where onTB Minutes dated 1. 1 / 5 / 08 you requested that the `I' b consider filling; the
vacant position . My real question is, did you discuss that at the 8/ 20/ 0d koeruhoe Session ?
Thank you for your help .
Rachel
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr.com>
To : "gdunn" <gdunn©cyradiogroup . com> ; "Kathie Williams" <kwilliams@ithacajournal .com > ; "Media"
<psa@cyradiogroup . com>
Sent : Tuesday , January 27 , 2009 10 : 15 AM
Attach : Tentative 2009 PB Schedule .doc ; Tentative 2009 ZBA Schedule .doc
Subject : Town of Lansing Planning & ZBA Meeting Schedules
Please take notice
Public welcomed !
Thank you ,
Rachel
1 /27/2009
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Tolcodes
From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny .rr.com>
To : " Legals Ithaca Journal" <Legals@pressconnects . com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27 , 2009 8 : 32 AM
Attach : LEGAL NOTICE OF SEQR PUBLIC HEARING 2-23-09 .doc; LEGAL NOTICE OF PUBLIC
HEARING 03 -09 -09 . doc
Subject : Town of Lansing Legal Notices
Good MorningDenise,
Can you please have these printed ASAP . Also, I will need to have an Affadivit of Service on these.
Thank you ,
Rachel
Planning/ Zoning/ Code Clerk
Town of Lansing
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The Lansing Star Online, Lansing, NY - Proposed Law Reduces Planning Board Terms Page 1 of 1 1
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Proposed :[.,acv Reduces Planning Board Terms F4 ,
by Ban venner
Lansing's Town Hoard pmpotad a law Wee<tncsday that taould reduce plaiuling bt.9ni member terms from seven years b) three. 'I'I,t• new
law would affect plaint'in; lxaard members, and alternate members to the Plaunin; hoard and the Zoning Board nfetppeals ('/. HA). drown
otlii:nts say a slimier term will rnuke it easier to at train new melt he to the breach.
" ;`- � "We just appointed a new phi nning board metuher and an alternate," exphunn�l 'Ibw stip n•fmr Sell Pinney. "In the pruns of train;;
.•• .. a/yl I i field Noble: to fill theft p0�9itk;1t5 the big4','S; tletrillion to that was the fact turn wtwn we told thititi it was a Steven year term a lit <If
"SI -,;. t-flwitii people shied atray.'
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: 4 - - r•:C I .iaising'9 Plat ming Board has sewn regular :members. Currently otte member k appointed peryir, which nukes the appointment a
sevum year tetra. t ndar the new lase tbl ee weathers or alternates -.+uufti he aptoiutcd each year in a three year cycle.
Farmer Planning Board monks Larry &uidenta m:kccl whet tier lite law wcis a Iasi: of home rile, and Town Attomey r;uy Krogh said thal it is,
"f in ntcrtand limn the training that 1 went through that the pur'prsr4 ciidhc hits- is be allow the item of pialeniing bulbi member to meets the town tam RI's,'
%ttulcrna said. 'Thal reduces the :mount of political influence over good planning deeisinri. Have :,On considered that in pitting &Award this. Ill ,;teiiail propos: Il,
Atka 1 t, oudd find to Ix rat it the interests of the residents of the yawn?'
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Lansing Town Board ( Left to lilthtl Connie Wilcox, Solt Pinney, Natty
Christopher, Mall lkseiner, Bud Shattuck
"'Nonn:d' and *mutated' are tali try, 4311 spins 2n your definition that ( don 't think are intended,” Krogh replied. "Every single local law i.: every municipality in the
State of New Y<n4< i creel ed under the nun iici pal home rail, law. 'Blit mean: yin would consider parking le uhutionC Speed limits IUIt1:ival find r that definition. I
don't thine: that's arrunate."
Krogh explained that 'supersession' is when you use a rinsthtutiam)! power that 's granted to a k:.at government to have a rule different from some genend state
late. He noted that the use nupetscssion authority by lavers is tom mon . II n noted that there alta riling~ by New York's Attorney General own sinlifur laws in fuller
communities that tie rest:arc:twit wit ik writ ing the kw, and sirtaiestect that plannimtboard mem lwrs towing a shorter term than town board it ittmiters is more ofa
pint issue Ilam a lerpi ouu.
"I will leave it IQ tux Ware.' ill address tint ieKtept to time that if the Town 1ki ir .I only has a four year tcl'n I it would aecnt to nue Ih:u cavils tcs year.>, :n so you have a
difiinrut town beard," the said. "Every two years your lance different set of potential constraints. prefereuas, biases, etc_ So put hese different people coining Aim
the planning boa id . 'lhe converse if wluit you suggest hence 4191 be. in.a1 thait %silk A IIi dor turnover in a planning board you may end II with a mot a diverse and
more rept ptrntative group"
Town Maine uhc:itbes }watt IIv4_merand Dtalty Christopher asked whether tend liatirn (Mid be included. Christopher said he would Tatar a ttiI : tc;rm
IIT ximtnti. Kn igh explained that lb.: Town I<tard may include' term Blairs at its discretion. Pinnaryl fut„n:d leaving the darn open to having members stay on the
bayed Ismer. "If we went with three tei-tw the most senior person tv illei only be there for nine +:ester! total,' he said. ' t think it's gaud to have flims` pet p eon the
boatel t lint have Int of etprlirnce."
Resident n rod Deputy I I ighwny vl.iperintende'I it Charlie Purcell sa id 1w was wnect lied that it Le. too difficult to get new members onto t I to Planning Board. 't enc
Planning 'loan' is ra prettytiglt knit group, he Said. "I l kink 5untchorty trying in ;it Ohl tate hi aid for tw gni al iif the 'lln,l129 a)irig t'• have n tomb cline doing it.
Jim !'inner' said the 'l'own Bottlyd would look a applications of existing members atl. I new applicants, consult the Planning Broad. and snake a decision.n. "t think non'
planning board is a very diverse group with it leu of ditleront ideas," lie saiit " It hri rigs a frit cd quality."
Deputy St11Y,:nisor C 'nnic ''Vily' it said that the proposed law b not a reflection of a xisting Planning Hoard members. "la tho recolutii in to srt the public hearing it
says. 'Whereas the Town Ikesrai heneln nlakt:ee do:ar that this proposed 1: w is nota i'dlcction ulnen any member of the Ptunnii lg hoard, and thin pl:uposal of a law
will rat impart the cut rent el InSI dation of 2Iu: Planning Roard, whose I n::rnhers lthtt pn;n'icicd it vlduuble service to the Town and all of whom will continue to servo
owl the planning Hoary'" she paid. "1 really w,int that to he noted "
She them mai le a Inc: hint to see the public healing fit Vela-Ion mai at 6:05pm. 7.t lidanla niched Vi Sec a eopy of the late, and Pinney hill bink it al amid he available
in ILe l'rn.•n CielieS ('i&c SUM', tulle ne,Xt w(c .:.
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hitp ://www . lansingstar. com/content/view/4473 /67/ 1 /23/2009
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr.com>
To : "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt" <Ischmitt@thalerandthaler. com>
Sent : Wednesday , January 21 , 2009 11 : 21 AM
Subject : Re : Seacord PDA Request , etc .
Thank you . I will let Jeff know .
Rachel
Original Message -----
From : Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt
To : 'Tolcodes'
Sent : Wednesday , January 21 , 2009 9 :44 AM
Subject: RE : Seacord PDA Request , etc .
I am available to attend .
Thanks ,
Lorraine •
Lorraine Moynihan Sclunitt, Esq .
Partner, Thaler 8 Thaler
309 North Tioga Street
P.O. Box 266
Ithaca, New York 14851 -0266
Telephone: (607) 272-2314
Facsimile: (607) 272-} 1 (6
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From : Tolcodes [mailto : tolcodes@twcny . rr . com]
Sent : Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10 : 24 AM
To : Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt
Subject : Fw : Seacord PDA Request, etc .
Lorraine ,
Jeff is requesting that you attend the January 26th Planning Board Meeting .
Thank you ,
Rachel
----- Original Message
From : Jeff Overstrom '
To : Rachel Jacobson
Sent : Tuesday , January 20 , 2009 9 : 51 AM
Subject: Fw : Seacord PDA Request , etc . •
1 /21 /2009
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kr-Frey L. overstronr . .FET
Engineering & Planning Coordinator
Town of Lansing
29 infect Road
Lansing, NY 14882
(607) 533 - 7024
(607) 533 - 3507 Fax
Original Message
From ; Wayne Matteson
To : Jeff Overstrom
Cc RONALD SEACORD
Sent: Thursday , January 08 , 2009 1 -08 PM
•
Subject; Seacord PSA Request , etc.
Hi Jeff, •
Packages containing hard copies of n request for the Lansing Commons project to be considered a Planned
Development Area have been sent to you , Scott Pinney , and Lin Davidson , Each package includes drawings , a
Full EAP , the PDA request letter, and the Statement of Intent to Comply . I have also attached portions of the
package to this email _ We would like to be included on the agenda for the Jan . 26th Planning Board meeting .
Please let us know if you require additional information for review or have questions _
Thanks ,
Wayne C . Matteson , Jr. , P _ 0
Environmental Professional
Matteson Engineering & Environmental Services
3898 Eatonbroak Road
Erieville , fT 13061
315 -662 -7146
wmattesonfrontiernet. net
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny- rr . com>
To : "Lyle Wadell" <Ihw1 @cornell . edu >
Sent : Wednesday , January 14 , 2009 8 : 38 AM
Subject : Site Edits
Lyle,
Can you please make the following changes to our Site ;
1 . On front page remove PB openings .
2 . Under Notices remove Duthie ( PB ) and Houghtaling (ZBA)
3 . Under Standing Committees add as a PB Member
Richard Prybyl Term- January 7 , 2009 to December 31 , 2013
David Buck (Alternate) Term January 7, 2009 to December 31 , 2015
4 . Remove Matthew Besemer as PB Liaison and add Marty Christopher • • -
5. Under Standing Commite ZBA change David Dittmans term to expire in 2013 .
Thank you .
Rachel
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr. com >
To : " Richard Prybyl " < RICHARD_PRYBYL@ml .com> ; "David Buck" <ALLBUCKS@ATT. NET>
Cc : "Marty Christopher" <brownsnolfan@hotmail . com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13 , 2009 11 : 55 AM
Attach : Tentative 2009 PB Schedule .doc
Subject : Tentative 2009 Schedule
-Gentlemen--
FYI . . . ,
Thank you,
Rachel
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1 / 13/2009
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Tolcodes
From : "Alice Miller" camiller cortland-co . org >
To : "Tolcodes" ctolcodes © tvcny , rr.com >
Cc ; 'ten Dineen" cddineen Cortland -co -org >
Sent : Monday , December 29 , 2008 10 : 42 AM
Subject : RE : 2009 Training for Local Officials
12 . 29 , 08
Good Morning Rachel
Sorry for the delay , I was out of the office last week .
No, we have nothing scheduled yet. I have been in touch with the Dept. of State and so far it's not even in their
budget. As soon as we know , we 'll set up something , but right now it's not looking too good - Thank you for your
interest.
Best regards ,
Aire R . Miller
CofIond County l}rinnT+s Dept .
37 Church St.
Cortland, NY 43045. 2838
Ph: 697r753 . 5L43
Fax: 607- 753-5751
email ; artlrfleY rortland-co, arg
From : Tolcodes [ mai !to ; tolcodes twcfly . rr.com]
Sent : Monday, December 22, 2008 10 : 59 AM
To : Alice Miller
Subject : 2009 Training for Local Officials
Good Morning ,
I was wondering if you have any 2009 Training scheduled yet? I would like to give my PB & ZBA Members a
heads up for next years required training .
Thank your
Rachel Jacobsen
Code/Zoning/Planning Clerk
Town of Lansing , NY
12/30/2008
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Tentative
2009 Planning Board Schedule
7 : 1. 5 PM
January 12 , 2009 j January 26 , 2009
February 9 , 2009 February 23 , 2009
March 9 , 2009 March 23 , 2009
April 13 , 2009 April 27 , 2009
May 1. 1 , 2009
June 8 , 2009 June 22 , 2009
July 13 , 2009 July 27 , 2009
August 10 , 2009 August 24 , 2009
September 14 , 2009 September 28 , 2009
October 26 , 2009
November 9 , 2009 November 23 , 2009
December 14 , 2009 December 28 , 2009
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Tentative
2009 Zoning Board of Appeals Schedule
5 : 00 PM
January 20 , 2009
February 17 , 2009
March 17 , 2009
April 21 , 2009
May 19 , 2009
June 16 , 2009
July 21 , 2009
August 18 , 2009
September 15 , 2009
October 20 , 2009
November 17 , 2009
December 15 , 2009
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny. rr . com>
To : "Matthew Besemer" < Matt. Beserner@hotmail .com >
Sent : Monday , December 08 , 2008 11 : 58 AM
Subject : PB Training
Matt,
Our last Member to complete their required training - Hatfield has fulfilled his obligation via the NY Planning
Federation 's On Line Training , The Planning Office had the pleasure of spending the morning with him !
All PB Members are set for this year.
Thanks ,
Rachel
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr.com >
To : "Nancy Loncto" <njs6@Einaudi . Cornell .edu >
Cc : "Jeff Overstrom" <joverstrom©twcny. rr . com >
Sent : Wednesday, November 26 , 2008 10 :23 AM
Subject: Re : Planning Board - December 8 , 2008 CANCELLED
Nancy ,
My procedure for cancelllations are as follows :
1 . Notify the Town Web Master for Town Site .
2 . Notify the Media , i . e . Ithaca Journal , Lite 97FM , and WVBRFM
3 . Post on the Town Board at the Road
4 . Post of Front Door of Town Hall
5 . Post on Bullentin
Thnaks ,
RJ
----- Original Message
From : Nancy Loncto
To : Tolcodes
Sent : Wednesday, November 26 , 2008 9 : 30 AM
Subject RE : Planning Board - December 8 , 2008 CANCELLED
Dear Rachel ,
I imagine that you have already considered this — but
please post to board and web as well as there may be members of the public who were planning on appearing
before the Planning Board .
N
From : Tolcodes [mailto : tolcodes©twcny . rr. com ]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9 : 34 AM
To: Viola Miller; Thomas Ellis ; Nancy Loncto; Lin Davidson; Larry Sharpsteen
Cc : Jeff Overstrom ; Matthew Besemer
Subject: Planning Board - December 8, 2008 CANCELLED
— Members—
The Planning Board Meeting scheduled for Monday, December 8 , 2008 has been CANCELLED due to lack of
Agenda items . Please note , our Rules and Regulations clearly state Applicants must provide material within 10
BUSINESS DAYS to the Planning Department for consideration . With that being said , the deadline would have
been November 20 , 2008 .
Have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving !
Rachel
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you are not the named recipient you should not read , distribute , copy or alter this email UNLESS
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From : " Nancy Loncto" <njs6@Einaudi . Cornell . edu >
To : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny . rr.com > ; "Viola Miller" <Robert-S-Miller@Verizon . Net> ; "Thomas
Ellis" <TMEIlis498@aol . com> ; 'tin Davidson" < nldl @comell . edu> ; "Larry Sharpsteen"
< Larbear@Juno .com>
Cc : "Jeff Overstrom " <joverstrom@twcny .rr.com> ; "Matthew Besemer" < Matt . Besemer@hotmail .com >
Sent: Thursday , November 20 , 2008 10 :20 AM
Subject: RE : Planning Board
Dear Rachel ,
Thanks so much . . . I was in my office and did not have access to materials at home .
N
From : Tolcodes [ mailto : tolcodes@twcny. rr . com ]
Sent : Thursday, November 20, 2008 9 : 53 AM
To : Viola Miller; Thomas Ellis ; Nancy Loncto; Lin Davidson ; Larry Sharpsteen
Cc: Jeff Overstrom; Matthew Besemer
Subject : Planning Board
—Members—
Attached you will find a copy of the Newton Application , SEAR and Ag Data Statment per Nancy's request . The
procedure for providing copies of each Applicant's entire file will most likely be changeing in the very near future .
The new "Checklist" produced shall take care of most coping issues . That "Checklist" should assure all Members
that the Planning Department has the required information on file . Files are open for inspection at any time for
Members and Public Viewing . Members may want to consider allowing additional time when picking up packets
for reviewing files and having any questions or concerns answered prior to the Meeting .
You will notice for Kirby 's that you have only received an email from Legal Counsel and a blank page 2 of the
SEQR Form . Prior to the Approval at the 9122108 Planning Board Meeting , all Members were provided with a
complete File on the Kirby project . This was an Exempt Subdivision , which only required the PB to complete the
SEQR .
Thank you ,
Rachel
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you are not the named recipient you should not read , distribute, copy or alter this email UNLESS
otherwise noted .
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny .rr.com>
To : 'Viola Miller" <Robert-S-Miller@Verizon . Net> ; "Thomas Ellis" <TMEIlis498@aol . com> ;
<njs6@is .cornell .edu > ; " Lin Davidson" <nldl@cornell . edu > ; " Larry Sharpsteen "
< Larbear@Juno . com>
Cc : "Jeff Overstrom" <joverstrom@twcny . rr.com> ; " Matthew Besemer" < Matt . Besemer@hotmail . com >
Sent : Thursday, November 20 , 2008 9 : 52 AM
Attach : Newton - App . , SEAR & AG . pdf
Subject Planning Board
-Members -
Attached you will find a copy of the Newton Application , SEQR and Ag Data Statment per Nancy's request. The
procedure for providing copies of each Applicant's entire file will most likely be changeing in the very near future.
The new "Checklist" produced shall take care of most coping issues . That "Checklist" should assure all Members
that the Planning Department has the required information on file . Files are open for inspection at any time for
Members and Public Viewing , Members may want to consider allowing additional time when picking up packets
for reviewing files and having any questions or concerns answered prior to the Meeting .
You will notice for Kirby's that you have only received an email from Legal Counsel and a blank page 2 of the
SEQR Form . Prior to the Approval at the 9122108 Planning Board Meeting , all Members were provided with a
complete File on the Kirby project . This was an Exempt Subdivision , which only required the PB to complete the
SEQR .
Thank you ,
Rachel
11 /20/2008
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From : "Nancy Loncto" <njs6@Einaudi . Cornell .edu >
To : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny. rr . com>
Cc : " Lin Davidson " < nldl@cornell .edu >
Sent : Wednesday, November 19 , 2008 4 :03 PM
Subject: Compliments and question
Dear Rachel and Jeff,
First it is very helpful to have the Checklist with notes and totally filled out . Thank you where this is made
available , I have a couple of questions :
1 . Is there an application form and SEQR form filled out for the application — Newton . . . . can you get
these to us before the meeting please
2 . There is nothing other than the e-mail from Lorraine and a SEQR for Kirby . . . .can you get the
application etc to us before the meeting please .
Thank you for your assistance.
Nancy
Nancy J . Loncto
Associate Director for Administration
Southeast Asia Program
Cornell University
180 Uris Hall
Ithaca , NY 14853
Phone (607 ) 255-8902
Fax (607) 254- 5000
http :I/www. einaudi .cornell . edulsoutheastasia/
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TOM PKINSCOU NTY � v
AGRICULTURE & FARMLAND PROTECTION BOARD ; ‘javi?
615 Willow Avenue Ithaca, New York 14850
Telephone (607) 272- 2292 Fax (607) 272- 7088 KkAncy Lio ince tit)
October 1 ; 2008
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Mr. A. Scott Pinney , Supervisor
Town of Lansing
PO Box 186
Lansing , New York 14482
Dear Mr. Pinney:
Town of Lansing farmer Daniel Starner attended the Tompkins County Agriculture and Farmland
Protection Board (AFPB ) meeting of October 22 , 2008 to seek the Board's advice and assistance in
resolving an ongoing drainage problem in his farm fields . Mr. Starner believes the problem results from
redirected storm water runoff from nearby residential development. It appears the Town of Lansing has
agreed with Mr. Starner' s position in the past, as the Town installed drainage tiles through his property as
well as a concrete retention area to try and resolve the problem . Unfortunately , residential development
in the area has continued and the drainage improvements are not sufficient to handle the additional water
redirected onto the Stamer property . •
Mr. Starner presents a compelling case as this problem impacts up to 5 of his fields . He appeared at a
recent Town of Lansing Planning Board meeting seeking assistance on this matter and he claims that the
Planning Board told him that they could do nothing to help him .
The AFPB is concerned that existing . New York State and Town of Lansing Storm Water Regulations ,
both of which prohibit increasing off-site runoff and require on-site mitigation of run-off, were not followed
when residential development occurred near the Starner farm , to the detriment of the farmer. The Board
has recommended that Mr. Starner obtain a copy of the Storm Water Regulations , talk to the Town
Engineer about the problem , and also contact the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation .
The AFPB would also like to bring this matter directly to the attention of the Town Supervisor, the Town
Board and the Town Planning Board , and urge the Town to ensure that existing Storm Water Regulations
are being followed . The Board further requests that the Town work with Mr. Starner to find a solution to
the run -off problems impacting his agricultural operation .
Sincerely , {„
Richard Ehrhardt, Chair
Tompkins County Agriculture and Farmland Protection Board
cc: Daniel Starrier
Lansing Town Clerk
Lansing Town Board members
Lansing Town Planning Board members •
The mission of the Tompkins County Agriculture and Farmland Protection Board shall be to
encourage farminn in the County through local initiatives which create favorable conditions that
TOMPKI NS COUNTY
AGRICULTURE & FARMLAND PROTECTION BOARD
615 Willow Avenue Ithaca, New York 14850
T elephone (607) 272- 2292 Fax (607) 272- 7088 /
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October 1 , 2008
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Mr. A . Scott Pinney , Supervisor
Town of Lansing
PO Box 186
Lansing , New York 14482
Dear Mr. Pinney:
Town of Lansing farmer Daniel Starner attended the Tompkins County Agriculture and Farmland
Protection Board (AFPB) meeting of October 22 , 2008 to seek the Board ' s advice and assistance in
resolving an ongoing drainage problem in his farm fields. Mr. Starrier believes the problem results from
redirected storm water runoff from nearby residential development. It appears the Town of Lansing has
agreed with Mr. Starner's position in the past , as the Town installed drainage tiles through his property as
well as a concrete retention area to try and resolve the problem . Unfortunately , residential development
in the area has continued and the -drainage improvements are not sufficient to handle the additional water
redirected onto the Starner property .
Mr. Starner presents a compelling case as this problem impacts up to 5 of his fields . He appeared at a
recent Town of Lansing Planning Board meeting seeking assistance on this matter and he claims that the
Planning Board told him that they could do nothing to help him .
The AFPB is concerned that 'existing New York State and Town of Lansing Storm Water Regulations ,
both of which prohibit increasing off-site runoff and require on-site mitigation of run-off, were not followed
when residential development occurred near the Starner farm , to the detriment of the farmer. The Board
has recommended that Mr. Starner obtain a copy of the Storm Water Regulations , talk to the Town
Engineer about the problem , and also contact the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation .
•
The AFPB would also like to bring this matter directly to the 'attention of the Town Supervisor, the Town . •
Board and the Town Planning Board , and urge the Town to ensure that existing Storm Water Regulations
are being followed . The Board further requests that the Town work with Mr. Starner to find a solution to
the run -off problems impacting his agricultural operation .
Sincerely , -
jai( eZL
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Richard Ehrhardt, Chair
Tompkins County Agriculture and Farmland Protection Board
cc: Daniel Starner
Lansing Town Clerk
Lansing Town Board members
Lansing Town Planning Board members
The mission of the Tompkins County Agriculture and Farmland Protection Board shall be Co
2nCOt:raCe Caranina .in the County rhrnrah local initiatives which create :avorah1e conditions that
TOWN OF LANSING CITIZEN'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE
ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING
(THE "ZONING COMMITTEE ")
MISSION STATEMENT
It is the expressed desire of the Town Board of the Town of Lansing to update •
and modernize the Comprehensive Plan and zoning laws of the Town of
Lansing . The Town Board desired to create a more flexible plan and laws that
would promote business development in business parks and along major
commercial corridors, mainly including State Routes 34 and 34-B and
Triphammer and Peruville Roads . History has shown that businesses tend to
locate where there are high vehicle counts in visible areas . The Town Board
believes that the nodal model of development is preferential for the Town as it
will create a Town Center and consolidate services in smaller areas, thus saving
costs for the Town and its constituents .
When attempting to implement these changes it became clear that there were
alternate versions of the future of planning and zoning within the Town . Even
among those who agreed with the Town Board 's vision, there were those who
disagreed with the proposed implementation plan . The Town thus referred the
matter on numerous occasions to the public and to the Planning Board and ZBA
for comment, and as most know by now , the process became broken .
Thus, with the blessing of the Planning Board and the ZBA, and with the express
authorization of the Town Board, Supervisor Pinney created this Citizens
Advisory Committee to try to find consensus about the future of planning and
zoning in the Town, and as importantly , to make recommendations to the Town
Board, the Planning Board , and the ZBA as to how to implement the vision of
this Committee.
Accordingly, the Committee is charged with achieving the following objectives
on or before January 15 , 2009:
1 . Making recommendations for updating the Town' s Comprehensive
Plan, including the specific language thereof;
2 . Identifying whether block and zone zoning is the best alternative for
zoning in the Town - is the old system of R1 , R2, R3, Bl and 132 still
viable or should more modernized categories of zones be created;
including identifying whether incentive based zoning, or more flexible
zoning rules and procedures, can improve the community and increase
business counts, while protecting residential uses, public peace, public
, r
order, the right to farm, and land values, including a consideration of
mixed -use districts, overlay districts, floating zones and PDAs;
3 . Making a recommendation as to the vision and viability of a Town
Center, including where it should be located, and what types of zoning
regulations and zones should apply;
4. Determining the means and methods for preserving open space and
the viability of agriculture in the Town;
5 . Determining whether to preserve grandfathered non-conforming uses,
or whether they should be amortized out of existence (and if so, upon
what terms);
6 . Under whatever zoning proposal the Committee recommends, where
will zoning lines be drawn - what will an updated zoning map look
like; and finally
7. The proposed language of a new zoning law to implement this vision.
The Town Board is aware that this is a huge task; but that is why each one of you
was chosen . Thanks for your past and continued service to the Town .
Sincerely yours,
A . Scott Piruley, Supervisor, Town of Lansing
August 11 , 2008
TO: THE TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD
FROM: LINDA A HIRVONEhN
I respectfully request that any comments alleged to have been said by me in a
statement submitted by Deputy Town Supervisor Connie Wilcox, not be included
in the Planning Board minutes. Whatever I may or may not have said was not
said publicly and should, therefore, not be included In a public document.
Linda A. Hirvonen
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From : "Tolcodes" <tolcodes@twcny. rr . com >
To : "Wayne Matteson" <wmatteson@frontiernet. net> ; "Viola Miller" < Robert- S- Miller@Verizon . Net> ;
"Town of Lansing - Clerk's Office" <townclrk@twcny . rr . com> ; "Timothy Buhl "
<tcbuhl@verizon . net> ; "Thomas Ellis" <TMEIlis498@aol .com > ; "Supervisor, A. Scott Pinney"
<asp243@twcny . rr.com > ; "Steve Colt" <Steve-lansingrec@twcny . rr.com > ; "Sharon Bowman"
<sbbowman@twcny . rr.com > ; "Scott Purcell , Fire Chief' <spurcell@lansingfire_ net> ; "Ruth
Hopkins" <rah27@comell . edu > ; "Ronald Bricker" <rab4@cornell . edu > ; " Richard Platt"
<DPLATT3@TWCNY . RR . COM> ; "Penny" <psloughter76@twcny . rr. com > ; " Patrick Tyrrell"
<patrick-Iansingrec@twcny . rr. com> ; "Nancy Loncto" <njs6@Einaudi. Cornell .edu> ; "Matthew
Besemer" < Matt . Besemer@hotmail .com> ; "Marty Christopher" <brownsnolfan@hotmail .com > ;
"Lynnette" <Lynnette001 @aol . com> ; "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt"
< LSchmitt@thalerandthaler. com > ; " Linda Hirvonen" <LAHirvonen@Warrenhomes . com> ; "Lin
Davidson " <nldl@cornell . edu > ; "Larry Sharpsteen" <Larbear@Juno .com> ; "John Howell"
<jch10@comell . edu> ; <jkoski@tompkins -co . org> ; "Jay Franklin" <jfranklin@tompkins-co .org> ;
"Jack French " < lanshwy@twcny. rr . com> ; " Irene Kehoe" <ikehoe@tompkins-co .org > ; "Henry
(Hurl) Sheldon" <hurf@graphics . cornell .edu > ; "Guy Krogh" <Gkrogh@ThalerandThaler.com > ;
"Gregg Travis , ZBA Chairman " < GFT1@cornell .edu > ; " Froggy" <charliepurce1120@yahoo .com > ;
" Erik Whitney" <erikw_60@yahoo.com> ; "Dittman , David" <dad19@sha . comell .edu >; "Deb
Caraco" <dsc@tgmillerpc . com> ; "Dawn Tordel " <dtordel@thalerandthaler. com> ; "David Herrick,
P . E ." < DAH@TGMILLERPC . COM> ; "Dan Veaner" <dan@lansingstar.com > ; " Dan Konowalow"
<dkonowalow@twcny . rr.com > ; "Connie Wilcox , Deputy Supervisor" <Wilcoxc@hotmail . com> ;
"Charmagne Rumgay" <charrum@twcny . rr.com> ; "Bud Shattuck"
<anticipationantiques@yahoo .com > ; "Bud Shattuck" <bshattuck@tompkins -co .org> ; "Bonny
Boles" < Bonny22@Twcny . rr . com> ; "Ben Curtis" <codeofficer@vlansing . org > ;
< MoeMug@aol .com > ; " Lynn Day" <LDAY8@TWCNY. RR.COM >
Cc : "Jeff Overstrom" <joverstrom@twcny. rr. com >
Sent : Monday , July 14 , 2008 11A9 AM
Subject: New Town of Lansing Employee
Jeff Overstrom has joined the Town of Lansing as Engineering and Planning Coordinator for the Planning
Department. Please add Jeff's email address to your address book; joverstrom@twcny rr. com
Jeff may be reached by calling 533-7054 (ext # 26 ) between the hours of 7 :00 AM to 4 : 30 PM .
Thank you ,
Rachel
7/ 14/2008
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From : "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt" VIschrnittthalerandthaler,com >
To: " Matt Besemer" <matt . besemor hotmail .com > ; "'Tolcodes" <tolcodes twcny. rr , com> ; " Larry
Fharpsteen " <lorbear juno . com > ; "Lin Davidson" <nld1 ( cornell , eho> ; <njs6 is . coroell . edu >;
" Richard Plaid" chplatt3 twcny , rr, com > ; "Thomas Ellis"' <tmetlis4bb ao1 . com > ; "Viola Miller"
< rob a rt-s-mil l e rive rizon _ net>
Sent : Wednesday , July 30 , 2008 1 : 18 PM
Subject : RE : Vote-Altemate Position
Greetings all :
Unfortunately , I would respectfully submit that both Matt and Rachel are in error on some points in their emails.
The voting membership of the planning board consists of six (6) members now , not seven (7 ) , due to Larry
Fuhdema ' s resignation and no alternate in place . Votes need to be carried by a majority of the voting membership
of the Planning Board which is how I always calculate . Here we have a 6 person voting membership, due to Larry
uidema's resignation . A majority of the VOTING MEMBERSHIP is hence four votes ,
Pursuant to Town Law § 271 ) 16) " Every motion or resolution of the planning board small require for its adoption
the affirmative vote of a majority oh the members of the planning board . " This planning board has 6 members .
Accordingly : four votes are needed to carry any action .
Town Law § F71 ( 1 ) provides that Planning Boards shad consist of 5 or 7 members.
Town Law § 271 (8) provides that " If a vacancy shall occur otherwise than by expiration of term, the town board
shall appoint the new member for the unexpired term.
Town Low § 279 ( 7 ) provides that a Town Board may decrease a seven member board to five members by local
law or ordinance _ . . . to take effect upon the next two expirations of terms. )
hope this clarifies things somewhat . _ .
Best,
Lorraine
From : !Matt Fesemer [ mailto : matt. besemerhotrrrail . com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9 : 54 Ptd1
To: To/codes; Larry Sharpateen ; Lin Davidson ; njs6is. cornell .edu ; Richard Platt; Thomas Ellis; Viola Miller;
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt
Subject: FE : Vote-Alternate Position
It doesn 't matter how many are present, it is still a 7 member board . That means there needs to be atleant 4
ayes for the vote to pass .
Matt
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From : tolnodes@twcny . rr.com
To : Larbear@Junoroom; oldf nornell . edu ; Matt. Besemer@hotmail .com; njsF@is .cernell .edu;
FbWJ I3©T VNY , RR. COM ; TMEIIis498@aol .com; Robert- S- Miller Verionn . Net; LSchmitto@thalerandthalerrcom
Subject: Vote-Alternate Position
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 1. : 27 : 33 -EWE
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Just so everyone is on the same page, this is how the vote was for Nancy 's motion to request
that the TB act on the previous Appliction that was submitted to them for the Alternate
position opening. From my previous experience, when there is only 5 members present, the
vote should at least have 3 Aye 's which we it did have . I checked with the Deputy Town
Clerk and she agreed with me . "Lin-you may want to double check with Lorraine on this . As
far as I am aware the only time we need a supermajority is to override a Cty . 239
recommendation . Ultimately, the Town Board will make the final appointment, however, if
this did pass, the Liasion will need to take this recommendation to the Town Board . I await
your reply Lin .
VOTE AS FOLLOWS :
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield - No
Nancy Loncto - Aye
Viola Miller - Abstained.
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED .
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From : "Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt" < Ischmitt@thalerandthaler.com >
To : "'Tolcodes"' <tolcodes@twcny . rr.com >
Sent : Wednesday , July 30 , 2008 3 :25 PM
Subject : RE : Vote-Alternate Position
You are welcome ! I miss talking to you . ; -) Hope all is well .
Cheers ,
Lorraine
From : Tolcodes [mailto : tolcodes@twcny . rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1 : 53 PM
To: Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt
Subject: Re : Vote-Alternate Position
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Thank you Lorraine .
Original Message
From : Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt
To : ' Matt Besemer' ; 'Tolcodes' ; ' Larry Sharpsteen ' ; ' Lin. Davidson ' ; njs6@is. cornell. edu ; 'Richard Platt' ;
'Thomas Ellis' ; 'Viola Miller'
S ent: Wednesday , July 30 , 2008 1 : 18 PM
S ubject : RE : Vote-Alternate Position
G reetings all :
U nfortunately , I would respectfully submit that both Matt and Rachel are in error on some points in their emails .
The voting membership of the planning board consists of six (6) members now, not seven (7) , due to Larry
Zuidema 's resignation and no alternate in place . Votes need to be carried by a majority of the voting
nnembership of the Planning Board which is how I always calculate. Here we have a 6 person voting
membership, due to Larry Zuidema 's resignation . A majority of the VOTING MEMBERSHIP is hence four
votes ,
Pursuant to Town Law § 271 ( 16) " Every motion or resolution of the planning board shall require for its adoption
the affirmative vote of a major of_ the members of the planning board . " This planning board has 6 members.
Accordingly , four votes are needed to carry any action .
Town Law § 271 ( 1 ) provides that Planning Boards shall consist of 5 or 7 members .
Town Law § 271 (8) provides that " If a vacancy shall occur otherwise than by expiration of term, the town board
shall appoint the new member for the unexpired term .
Town Law § 271 (7) provides that a Town Board may decrease a seven member board to five members by local
law or ordinance . . . . to take effect upon the next two expirations of terms. )
I hope this clarifies things somewhat . .
Best,
Lorraine
7/31 /2008
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From : Matt Besemer [mailto : matt. besemer@hotmail . com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9 : 54 PM
To : Tolcodes; Larry Sharpsteen ; Lin Davidson; njs6@is. cornell . edu ; Richard Platt; Thomas Ellis; Viola Miller;
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt
Subject: RE : Vote-Alternate Position
It doesn't matter how many are present, it is still a 7 member board . That means there needs to be atleast 4
ayes for the vote to pass .
Matt
From : tolcodes@twcny . rr.com
To : Larbear@Juno . com ; nldl@cornell .edu ; Matt. Besemer@hotmail . com ; njs6@is.cornell .edu ;
DPLATT3@TWCNY. RR . COM ; TMEIlis498@aol .com; Robert-S-Miller@Verizon . Net; LSchmitt@thalerandthaler.com
Subject: Vote-Alternate Position
Date : Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11 : 27 : 33 -0400
Just so everyone is on the same page, this is how the vote was for Nancy 's motion to request
that the TB act on the previous Appliction that was submitted to them for the Alternate
position opening. From my previous experience, when there is only 5 members present, the
vote should at least have 3 Aye's which we it did have . I checked with the Deputy Town
Clerk and she agreed with me . " Lin-you may want to double check with Lorraine on this .
As far as I am aware the only time we need a supermajority is to override a Cty. 239
recommendation. Ultimately, the Town Board will make the final appointment, however, if
this did pass, the Liasion will need to take this recommendation to the Town Board . I await
your reply En.
VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
Thomas Ellis - Aye
David Hatfield. - No
Nancy Loncto - Aye
Viola Miller - Abstained
Lin Davidson - Aye
MOTION CARRIED .
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From: "Dick Platt" <dplatt3©twcny . rr. com>
To: "Tolcodes" <Tolcodes@TWCNY . rr.com>
Sent: Friday , August 01 , 2008 832 AM
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' From : Scott Pinney
To : Lin Davidson
Cc : Dick Platt ; Bud Shattuck ; Connie Wilcox ; Marty Christopher ; matt Besemer ; Jeff Overstrom
Sent: Thursday, July 31 , 2008 7: 12 PM
Subject : Fw : Planning Board Legal Counsel
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Please share this with everyone that may be interested .
Scott
Original Message
From : Guy Krogh
To : Scott Pinney
Sent: Tuesday , July 29 , 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Planning Board Legal Counsel
I' ll attempt to answer the questions presented . However, these questions actually have as their
underpinning some assumptions that make answers difficult - mainly as I do not know exactly
where these projects are procedurally with the P13. However, when applicable, I'll try to point
these issues out. There are about 1.0 questions in there, so bear with me. My answers and
comments are in blue.
Scott,
Thanks for your attention to Lorraine's concerns as they remain concerns of the Planning Board along with a
couple of other concerns - which I hope you will agree to pass along to Lorraine .
1 . Secord - the application has received some attention from the Town Board due to the fact there is no existing
sewer system Okay, but there seems to bean implied question that deserves some comments.
First, to be clear, the PB is an independent board . It is supposed to functionindependently of
Town Board control . Input and coordination are perfectly acceptable, but their deliberations
are supposed to be independently based upon their fields of expertise and operations - mainly,
zoning, planning, growth, compliance with Comprehensive Plans, zoning laws, etc . Thus, I
think the PB and the TB need to draw dear lines as to who is reviewing what, who is
approving what, and in what order. I was present when the conceptual issue of having the
Town Board be Lead Agency was presented - on account of the fact that this project required a
wastewater district, and thus the PB felt it was appropriate to have the TB do the SEQRA,
presumably as it would allow for 1 SEQRA review for both the subdivision and the
wastewater district. You may recall my confusion, and I inquired whether there would be
coordinated review given that it is generally not within the purview of the TB to do reviews of
subdivisions (almost universally, these SEQRA reviews throughout the NYS are performed by
PBs - as is true in Lansing). I was trying to be sensitive to the PBs jurisdiction, but it seems to
have become clear since then that the PB thinks they can do nothing until the TB does the
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SEQRA .
The original " action " of the TB was to approve the "concept" so that the PB could proceed with
a review . You specifically told the Developer that the PB had the jurisdiction to review at that
point, and that was at a public meeting. Now, there is some real confusion about process. It
seems clear that the Developer has not yet even submitted a preliminary plot, yet we have
scheduled a SEQRA. His last plat filing was rejected as it simply could not have been qualified
as a preliminary plat. The Developer is also unclear about his infrastructure. There might be
one and two family residences, but there might be some condominiums or apartments too . He
has gone from a "central septic discharge" concept, to a mini -sewer (though both fit within the
confines of a wastewater district). In short, after discussion with Dick Platt, Jeff Overstrom ,
Lorraine, and reviewing file materials, it is painfully clear that the SEQRA is premature. The
PB needs to perform its reviews - the PB needs to have the Developer's Conference, review and
comment upon the Sketch Plan, review and comment upon the Preliminary Plat and get the
Preliminary Plat into a condition whereby the P13 can advise the TB that they are near ready,
the final designs and infrastructure layouts are near ready, and they are ready to approve the
final Preliminary Plat, subject to the TB performing a SEQRA.. Here, there is not even a
Preliminary Plat yet, so I am quite puzzled as to why the Developer pushed to proceed , and
got his way, and why the PB, per the Developer, allegedly "cannot review it" without the
SEQRA. These statements make no sense procedurally or legally.
Additionally, the PB should not approve a preliminary plat without sewer infrastructure being
shown (the same is true for site plans as well) - so yes - they would need the SEQRA review
completed . But the " approval" I' m talking about in order for the TB to proceed with SEQRA is
not the final or formal approval - just an indication that the preliminary plat is near final form
such that there is a basis to proceed (recall that I distinguished between a " preliminary
preliminary plat" and a " final preliminary plat"). Yes, final or formal approval must await
SEQRA.
The SEQRA review supposedly came to the Town Board upon a sewerage question, but I am.
still not fully aware as to why. The formation of a wastewater district would require a
separate SEQRA review anyway, and historically, so too do water extensions, CWD boundary
changes, and drainage districts. The PB has never before came to the TB and said that since
the TB has a SEQRA function, then they should do the SEQRA for the subdivision itself. I
know a wastewater district is a new concept, but in reality it is not more complex, in terms of
organization, than forming a water district extension - the procedures are almost the
same. Thus, as my several comments have suggested consistently from day one - I remain
confused as to why this process is as it is, but since it is, the TB should not proceed with
SEQRA until the project's scope, layout, density, infrastructure, roadways, etc ., are laid out in a
proposed final form ( meaning, there is a final preliminary plat near ready for approval by the
PB) .
2. Cayuga Farms - is in the same category - no existing sewer system I think Cayuga Farms is a very
different type of project. It does not seem accurate to classify these projects similarly as
Seacord envisions a wastewater district for a collective on -site discharge and elimination
system and Cayuga Farms envisions a traditional sewer. Seacord 's plan is much simpler and
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can be fully realized within 6 months through a Town-controlled Article 12-type process,
similar to water district formation. Towards this end , the creation and approval of the Seacord
treatment plant is within the control of the Town, and the DEC and County, as well as the
Town Board , have voiced support for this plan and this type of treatment solution.
Cayuga Farms, on the other hand, will require permission from the Village of Lansing to run
trunk lines and install one or more pump stations. Access to a treatment plant, most likely
Cayuga Heights, will also need to be negotiated , as well as several rights-of- way . Then there
is the needed DOT permit, etc. This is highly speculative, and well outside of the control of
the Town. Given past experience, it seems unlikely that Cayuga Farms could get sewer
services within 5 years, if ever. However, the Developer of this project is an experienced
Developer who usually forms interlocking LLCs with NYC investors. To the extent that he is a
real estate developer, it is up to him as to what level of risk to assume. I would not counsel the
Town, the TB or the PB to approve a project of that size contingent upon sewer. How can a
site plan be approved (even though I think this may be a PDA) without essential infrastructure
being shown on the plan ? This makes no sense to me. Pd tell the Developer " tough" - go get a
MOU signed by the Villages of Lansing and Cayuga Heights that shows that you have a
likelihood of actually getting sewer services, and then the Town will be in a position to discuss
the project further. Otherwise, approvals will be limited to the feasible. Even then, however,
they still have the problem of potentially obtaining dozens of easements and a DOT permit. . . . 1
Because these are new situations coming to the Town and involve the Planning Board could you please check
with counsel on the following procedures :
Can we even consider these until the Town Board has discerned and resolved the sewer questions fully Yes,
and as a Planning Board they should per my long answer to the first point made. Unless I am
mistaken, an application comes in, then it is reviewed internally, classified, and sent to the PB
for a developer's conference/ sketch plan review . This is followed, usually, by a preliminary
plat, upon which formal comments are made, changes are suggested or needed, and as
applicable, conditions might be attached before approval of the Final Preliminary Plat. Most
often, a Developer amends the Preliminary Plat once or twice, and when it is in near
final/ status-ready format, the PB does the SEQRA and approves the Preliminary Plat. Thus,
the PB should conduct a review to get near the final preliminary plat stage so that the TB has
some idea if they are reviewing what will likely be approved , with or without conditions .
I am not a fan of huge contingencies, like "contingent upon a sewer and lawful interconnection
to a licensed treatment plant" . They may technically be legal, but in my opinion they can be
quite unwise. In contrast, a contingency that a district be formed by the Town is not too big a
deal . There is a difference between a sewer district and a wastewater district - as pointed out,
the Town has control over a wastewater district, and these types of districts are, or could be,
common contingencies, much like the creation and dedication of drainage districts and
stormwater facilities, or requirements for access to the CWD, whether by boundary change or
formal extensions. A sewer, in contrast, involves intermunicipal agreements, ratemaking
agreements, etc . Sewers are very large, very long, very contingent projects not in within the
control of the Town . This, to me, is a huge difference.
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Can we make a recommendation to the Town Board based on sketch plan that we would look at such
developments favorably if the sewer questions were resolved by the Town Board and then move forward once the
sewer questions have been fully addressed by the Town Board ? First, the language " resolved by the
Town Board " does not really apply at all . Secondly, I am not fully sure I understand this
question. "Pre-approval approvals" should not be provided . " Looking favorably " is not a good
idea either. Either a plan or proposal is supported or it is not Usually it should be supported
as submitted , with a disclaimer as to new, additional, updated or amended information. In a
sense this is sort of the Lansing Commons SEQRA question all over again - what is the Town
Board going to review if the Planning Board is still in the preliminary review stages and even
the Developer says he' s not sure what types of buildings are going in ? I suspect in the long
run that Bud , me, Lorraine, and Jeff are going to be proven right -this may actually be a PDA.
At this point I think, but do not know for sure, that the Planning Office classified this as a site
plan review project. Thus, the role of the PB is to review the application for criteria specific to
that action as set forth in the ZO - whether as a subdivision, site plan, or as a PDA . Has the
Developer submitted a final proposed plan that the PB believes will be approved as a
Preliminary Plat? I'd have to say "no", and note further that it really could not qualify as a plat
or a site plan if the sewer infrastructure is not shown . The Developer needs to supply this
information, otherwise SEQRA is indeed premature.
Of course the Developer is going to say they do not want to go through the sewer process
without knowing whether a site plan will be approved, and they may even get another
municipality to say they need an approved site plan before they' ll grant capacity so that they
can indeed measure flowage and know whether they can supply services . I do not know a
good answer to this except to ask the Developer how they intend to proceed with a Site Plan
without showing the location and design of the infrastructure, with the further caveat that
without knowing the type and location of buildings, how can they know what the cost or
effluent flow will be? There is a problem for the Developer, andmaybe the only options are
approval with a huge condition concisely written, or have the Developer proceed with some
assurance of sewer at his own risk. Obviously, as stated above, I think the better, and wiser,
course is the latter course. Let the Developer assume this risk - not the Town.
This would rely on Section 603. 0 (pg38) current Ordinance - "In districts where public water or sewers are likely to
be provided within 5 years from the date a subdivision proposal is submitted , lot regulations for area "with public
water or sewers available" , as set forth in schedule II , will be permitted in subdivision design when at least every
other lot is left vacant until municipal water or sewage disposal service is available and if the subdivider has
obtained Health department approval for such delayed development proposal. In such cases , building permits will
be issued only for alternate lots until public water or sewers have been made available .
OR
Would it be best to have the Planning Department determine at the sketch plan phase that the application fits the
criteria of a PDA because these situations do not conform to any standardized criteria in our Ordinance? I got a
bit ahead of myself, but see above. I think I've beat this point to death by now . This then puts
more responsibility on the Planning Board and the Town Board to work more closely together with much more
involvement from the citizens of the town .
This would rely on Section 706. 0 (beginning on pg . 45) whose "intent is to introduce flexibility in conventional land
use and design t . By applying performance criteria establish to encourage development, through the process of
review , discussion and ordinance amendment, insuring efficacy investment in public improvements , a more
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suitable environment, and protection of community interest. " - not contravene the objectives of the
Comprehensive Plan - this in effect is a rezoning of land by the town Board to a Planned Development
Area . Usually a PDA is supported by a zoning amendment (usually by local law ) to create
individualized zoning for the PDA area . This, of course, if a very different process from a
subdivision or a site plan review . So too is the SEQRA process as you have a local law
affecting land use regulations, and the actual nature of the proposed " site plan" to consider,
each of which triggers a mandatory review under SEQRA.
As of now, and as to Seacord, the Town Board seems to be attempting to perform. a SEQRA
review upon an sketch plan with a defective LEAF - though I understand the Developer is
trying to "get it all done" so that the SEQRA can go forward and not have to be re-done or
adjourned . I' ll try to hold my sarcasm in check when I repeatedly get to say " I told you
so" (but I doubt I'll speak up, I usually let the Developer's rant) .
Then because it seems Lorraine will not be present at our business meetings would you please ascertain for me
on behalf of the Planning Board members the following : I' m not sure this is always true, I believe you
stated that there would be meetings where she should be present - she merely need not be
there for all meetings. In fact, it was impossible to provide this analysis without Lorraine's
input - she is the PB's counsel and was more up to speed on these projects.
1 . What is the exposure of volunteer board members should we make a collective mistake are we
individually libel? - are we collectively libel? - is the town liable? Depends upon the type of claim and/ or
the type of liability . Generally there is no individual exposure, but if a plan was denied upon
the basis of race, ethnicity, religion, etc, for example, then individual liability could attach .
Similarly, if property rights are violated in a manner as could trigger a civil rights claim under
USCA Section 1.983, then again individual liability could attach. As over 80 % of municipal.
litigation relates to land use issues, my personal opinion is that, in the long run, having an
attorney present saves money . Not being an elected official, I am not responsible to weigh risk
against budgets and costs and decide what level of risk to assume. You do get that pleasure!
2 . Or some combination of the above?
3 . Does the town have adequate insurance coverage from counsel's point of view should a suit for error or
omissions or inconsistent review and determination occur I believe so, but John Bailey is the better
person to answer this question. Given changes in the law about 34 years ago, I recommended
that the Townobtain coverage for these types of claims and I believe the Town did so as John
Bailey concurred. John explained how such claims, win or lose, are very expensive to litigate,
so coverage just for the costs and defense fees was enough to have the prior Board decide "yes "
and obtain such coverage.
I had Lorraine review these answers and she clarified some issues and provided some very
helpful facts and insights. I did this as I needed that input to give full answers, and as the
actual request from Lin was for you to ask Lorraine. I believe\ the Planning Board attorney
should be in the loop on these large project determinations, especially where they are novel
and not before a type of project handled before in the Town . I also spoke with Jeff, and he
seems to be on the same page as we are. He also thinks Lansing Commons (i) should not have
a contingency as large and speculative as "sewers", and (ii) that the Lansing Commons project
is a PDA masquerading as a simple site plan review. You should speak with him about this, as
a re-classification may be in order.
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Though Jeff did not say so, and this is just my opinion, if Seacordwants variable structures
and density, then I think he too may be a PDA.
More answers than you wanted - but you asked !
Let me know if you want more comments or analysis .
Guy K. Krogh, Esq .
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