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�, •_ „.. r° , Al .. n T. Fulkerson , L. S.
_ _ 1 _ �� David A. Herrick, P. E .
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T n y • , Lee Dresser, L. S.
! 1__• _ _• �_ Y .L IL_E��_, P �.. v� / ' Frank L. Santelli , P. E .
• rew J. Sciarabba, P. E .
• Engineers and Surveyors Darrin A. Brock, L. S.
June 21 , 2006
Ms . Nancy Loncto , Chair
Town of Lansing Planning Board
Box 186
Lansing , NY 14882
Re : June nth Meeting Agenda
Dear Ms . Loncto ,
We've reviewed the following two projects that are expected to be on the Planning Board Agenda for the
June 26th meeting and offer the following comments :
Cayuga Way Subdivision — Sketch Plan
1 . Highway and Water System :
a . The proposed road configuration requires centerline slopes in excess of 10% . Refer to the
centerline profile for Road A. The Engineer must indicate how the grading can be modified to
mitigate this condition .
b. The Engineer should contact us to coordinate the temporary use of the Town 's booster station
constructed in Pheasant Meadow and future connections to a higher pressure tank grid . As
mentioned in previous correspondence the Town- is interested 'in aconnection from the tahk site
• to the main proposed on. Grandview Drive .
c. The re-configured lot layout along Placid Terrace in the Lakeview Subdivision will require ' .
agreements that are likely critical to completing a through street. It recommended that-these
agreements bedrafted now and executed by all parties . We discourage adding the completion of
this step as a condition to any Planning Board approval .
d . A copy of a sealed boundary and topographic survey must be submitted with any subsequent
plans .
e . The alterations within the Lakeview Subdivision may require additional Planning Board action on
previous approvals granted that project.
2 . Stormwater Management:
a . Hydrologic Calculations :
P The drainage areas provided in the report donot include off-site runoff, and It is unclear
from the plans provided how much area this may include .
• The drainage analysis includes tufo design points ( Design points 1 and 2) . Although off-site
runoff needs to be included , the drainage boundaries for the Post-Developed condition
appear to be otherwise correct. However, in the Pre- Developed condition , the drainage
area to Design Point 2 is incorrect, as much of this drainage area actually appears to flow to
the east, with at least some runoff flowing toward the swale behind lot 32 of the adjoining
property.
b . Site Layout and Grading :
• Ina few areas , the site grading is not very clear. An example is the swale between lots 17
and 18 , where the .contours do not appear to tie in to existing contours . Another is the 18"
culvert that crosses " New Road B". where the , invert in,and outdo not match upwith`the
contours shown on the .plan .
• The proposed road `grades are steep in some 'locations (on the order"of 12 % ) . As designed ,
• the road is directly perpendicular to the existing site contours in these areas : `
• • The septic sizing provided assumes 8% natural slope , but many of the lots exceed this
slope .
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c . Permanent Stormwater Management Practices :
• • The proposed stormwater management pond does not meet the following criteria set forth
in the New York State Storwmater Management Design Manual :
Minimum Length to Width Ratio of 1 . 5 : 1 ( Required )
Long Flow path (design guidance)
Irregular Geometry ( Design Guidance)
Pond Buffer ( Required )
• The dry swale proposed does not meet state standards due to the shallow depth of material
above the underdrain . This practice only treats a few lots , and a traditional grassed
channel " may provide sufficient treatment. Regardless of which option is used , a "60-day"
DEC review period will be required .
• A more detailed long-term maintenance is required for both the pond and dry swales .
d . Erosion and Sediment Control :
• The plan calls for rock check dams on rock-line channels , which is unnecessary.
• The construction sequence is not of sufficient detail . It is unclear when the road will be
constructed relative to individual lots .
• There are no ESC or grading plans for individual lots . A generic plan would typically be
sufficient to cover these lots . In this case no generic plans are included , and more detail
will be required due to the steep slopes of some lots (5-7 and 10- 14) .
e . General Format:
• Some referenced documents are currently out of date including :
The 1997 "Guidelines for Erosion and Sediment Control" and TOG 5 . 1 . 10 have been
replaced with a 2006 document available on DEC's web site .
The "Reducing the Impacts . . . " document is also out of date .
Drake Road Subdivision — Sketch Plan
• 1 . Stormwater Management:
a . Grading - As portrayed , the swale capturing runoff from lots 6 and 7 is immediately at the top of
a very steep slope . It would be preferable to capture only rooftop and driveway runoff than to
risk disturbing this slope during construction , or introducing concentrated runoff to it in the long
term .
b . Hydrology/ Hydraulics - We received no updated hydrologic report, so we cannot evaluate if the
practice identified provides sufficient controls .
c . Erosion and Sediment Control :
• Provide more detail on construction sequencing .
• If the houses will be developed separately, they will need a stand-alone sequence .
• Will the stormwater pond be used during construction as a sediment trap , and if so when
will sediment be removed?
d . Permanent Stormwater Management:
• Insufficient design information is available regarding retention area sizing and routing .
• The contours provided suggest that the pond does not conform to the geometry guidelines
and requirements set forth in the " New York State Stormwater Management Design
Manual" as follows :
Minimum Length to Width Ratio of 1 . 5 : 1 ( Required )
Long Flow path (design guidance)
Irregular Geometry ( Design Guidance)
Pond Buffer ( Required )
e . General Format :
• Some referenced documents are currently out of date including :
The 1997 "Guidelines for Erosion and Sediment Control" and TOG 5 . 1 . 10 have been
replaced with a 2006 document available on DEC 's web site .
• The " Reducing the Impacts . . . " document is also out of date .
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Feel free to contact me with any questions . Thank you .
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a44 ,• A. Herrick , - . E .
Cc : S . Farkas
D . Platt
J . French
G . Krogh
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