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Home My WebLink About2006-01-09 Please read and initial : LWDobai RAJ RGP 12T1• FCF Town of Lansing Monday, January 09 , 2006 7 : 15 PM PLANNING BOARD PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS (•Denotes present) * Nancy Loncto, Chairperson * Tom Ellis Lan Sha Steen * Y � Lin Davidson * Viola Miller * David Hatfield * Brian Ivery • * Matthew Besemer, Town Board Liaison * Richard Platt, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer David Herrick, P.E. Town of Lansing Engineer Public Present Kevin Jacobs Mark Holochuck Deborah Whitney • Erik Whitney, P . E. James Hulbert Kyle Stauffeneker General Business Nancy Loncto called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7 : 15 PM. Ms. Loncto opened the floor for Public comments/concerns of a general nature . There were no comments or concerns . Holochuck —Public Hearing, Final Plat, 4 Lot Subdivision, North Triphammer Road, Parcel 41 -1 -29.2 Ms . Lontco read the Legal Notice published in The Ithaca Journal, and opened the Public Hearing at 7 : 17 PM. Nancy Loncto shared the following comments offered by David Herrick, P . E . for the Town. January 9, 2006 Ms. Nancy Loncto, Chair Town of Lansing Planning Board • Box 186 Lansing, NY 14882 ` 01 /09/06 Planning Board Meeting Re: Holochuck Subdivision • N. Triphammer Road Dear Ms. Loncto, We have reviewed the December 28, 2005 set of drawings (Sheet S'1'- 1 through ST-O and subsequent drawings ST- I and ST-4 received on January 4`,'. With respect to stonmwater management the proposed plan meets the intent of the stormwatcr ordinance. There are several construction related details that still remain and we request that they be resolved prior to issuance of any building permits. Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan A . Submit an updated NOT and SWPPP that reflects the proposed Town road layout. B. Post-Construction Stormwater Management : e The outlet of the retention swales ponds water to 4" below the top of embankment, requiring even very large storms to pass through the underdrain system. This is likely to create problems in the long term. As an alternative, consider using a staged. outlet (e. g. , V-weir) to control storms greater than the 1 -year event, rather than allowing diem to flow entirely through the soil and underdrain system. o It appears on the site plan that some slopes adjacent to the proposed roadways are relatively steep (2 : 1slopes with a 6 foot drop at the entrance, and other areas on-site with 1 : 1 slopes and a 3 foot drop ). Consider re- grading these areas to lessen the severity of the slopes. • C . Erosion and Sediment Control : o Vegetative cover should be 85 % to complete construction, rather than the 75 % presented in plans. D. Long Term Maintenance: a The original SWPPP suggests that maintenance of the retention swales would be performed by individual lot owners. This is still acceptable; however, the Town should have the ability to access the land for emergency maintenance purposes. The site plan identifies easements for both swales but must clarify to whom they are •• granted . If the easements will be to the Town then the form and content of the legal description must be acceptable to the Town Attorney. Town Road Extension E. Future Road Extension : a At the .December 21 '` Town Board meeting it was the consensus of the Boardto require a right-of-way reservation from the proposed Town road to the lands of Stevens. This is reflected in the current site plan. T can recommend final approval of the proposed subdivision subject to a condition that requires resolution of Items A, C.:, D and E prior to issuance of any building permits. If you have any questions regarding this review feel free to contact me. Thank you. Sincerely, David A . Herrick, P . E. Cc: S . Farkas • D. Platt J . French CL Krogh Erik Whitney, P . E stated he has reviewed Mr. Herrick ' s comment. The issues are minor, and will be dealt with prior to the construction phase. • Richard Platt further stated a reply is required on the #239 from The County Planning Department. In addition, David Herrick will be reviewing the Long SEQR Form and . • 01 /09/06 Planning Board Meeting offering further comments/concerns with regard to it at the Working Meeting on January • 23 , 2006 . Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to close the Public Hearing at 7 : 48 PM. Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Lin Davidson - Aye Thomas Ellis — Aye David Hatfield — Aye Brian Ivery — Aye Nancy Loncto —Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen — Aye Further discussion/decision will be made at the January 23 , 2006 meeting. Approval of Minutes for 2005, October 24th, November 14 , November 28th & December 12th Lin Davidson made a motion to accept the minutes of October 24 , 2005 and as submitted . Larry Sharpsteen seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Lin Davidson - Aye Thomas Ellis — Aye • David Hatfield — Aye Brian Ivery — Aye Nancy Loncto -Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen — Aye MOTION CARRIED . Lin Davidson made a motion to accept the remaining minutes of: November 14, 2005 , November 28 , 2005 and December 12 , 2005 as submitted. Larry Sharpsteen seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Lin Davidson - Aye Thomas Ellis — Aye David Hatfield — Aye Brian Ivery — Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen Aye MOTION CARRIED . Babcock, Lillian, Site Plan Review — L1 - New Cottage on existing footprint, Parcel # 33 .4 -58 • Jason Demarest, Architect for the Applicant appeared before the Planning Board with a Site Plan presentation for the erection of a new residential cottage, replacing an existing , • 01 /09/06 Planning Board Meeting one. . On July 20, 2004 Ms . Babcock appeared before the Zoning Board of Appeals for an Area Variance . The following is an excerpt from the Zoning Minutes dated 7/2/04 : Wayne Lucas made an amended motion as follows : to approve construction on the existing footprint.. Any additional structure outside of the existing footprint will be consistentwith the current Zoning Regulations. Ground level will riot be altered and drainage will be reviewed by the Town of Lansing's Engineer at the applicant' s expense . Ronald Bricker- seconded. VOTE : Ronald .Bricker-Aye, Wayne Lucas-.Aye, Stephen White-Aye, Linda H.irvoneti-Opposed. .MOTION CARRIED . . Wayne Lucas made a motion stating, the minimum open space required is 85 % . The proposed minimum open space was approximately 78%, which will be approximately 80% with the reduction required to meet Zoning Regulations . Linda Hirvone.n seconded . VOTE : Ronald Bricker.-Aye, Wayne Lucas-Aye, Stephen White-Aye, Linda ..Hi.rvonen-Opposed . MOTION CARRIED . Mr. Demarest presented a Survey Map showing pending boundary changes . Agreements between landowners are in the processing stage and will be completed prior to the construction stage. Ms. Babcock will also be purchasing an additional 100 ' of land/swamp in the back of her property. The following is a Preliminary Construction Plan. (Blue is the existing footprint, black bold is the proposed.) • I TMNLL ... Q9 , jr :OM • .. . ♦ I , • 0••iIS• ✓ys ei:i • • •0 Iva Ass••• x + Footprint A o�4'.'.;o; — '—, Lv.• Newh::•'a -, •; Footprint MS' r 11IP I A Op..•4 Xv •: .4 • 01 /09/06 Planning Board Meeting Variance must be obtained for any part (s) of the building that exceed the setbacks that are not part of the existing footprint. It was the consensus of the Planning Board Members to move forward to the Zoning Board of Appeals and set a Public Hearing date for the Planning Board ' s first meeting in February. Lin Davidson made a motion to hold the Public Hearing on Monday, February 27, 2006 at 7 : 20 PM. Larry Sharpsteen seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Lin Davidson - Aye Thomas Ellis — Aye David Hatfield — Aye Brian Ivery — Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye Larry Sharpsteen made a motion requesting that a letter of recommendation be sent to the Zoning Board of Appeals indicating the Planning Board is in favor of the proposed plan and highly recommend the Zoning Board look favorably on the request for a Variance . Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : • Lin Davidson - Aye Thomas Ellis — Aye David Hatfield — Aye Brian Ivery — Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye MOTION CARRIED . Richard Platt inquired if the Planning Board had a problem with the Code Office issuing a Building Permit for just the house. Mr. Platt was advised he must wait until after the Public Hearing. Larry Sharpsteen stated for the records that The Zoning Board of Appeals does not have to follow any of the Planning Board ' s suggestions, however, the proposal really makes sense. Lin Davidson agreed. • • • 01 /09/06 Planning Board Meeting Stauffeneker, Kyle & Stacy, 1 Lot Subdivision — Buck Road, Parcel # P/O 28.-1-28.21 Kyle Stan ffeneker appeared before the Planning Board requesting a 1 lot Subdivision. Due to the lots being 1 1/2 acre, Mr. Stauffeneker has completed a NOI at the request of the Code Enforcement Office as well as a Stormwater Plan . Lin Davidson completed the SEQR. Lin Davidson made a motion to declare a negative declaration. Larry Sharpsteen seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis — Aye David Hatfield — Aye Brian Ivery — Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen — Aye MOTION CARRIED . Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to accept the proposal as presented, also waive the Public Hearing. Lin Davidson seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis — Aye David Hatfield — Aye • Brian Ivery — Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye Other Business Ms . Loncto advised the Members that the Board has accepted Gregg Travis ' s resignation from the Planning Board and he will now hold the position, Chairman of the Zoning Board of Appeals . Brian Ivery has been appointed to the permanent position replacing Gregg Travis . Vacancy notices have been sent to several sources for recruitment of new members . Nomination and Elections of Officers Viola Miller presented the slate of Officers for the coming year. "2006" Planning Board Officers Nancy Loncto Chairperson Lin Davidson Vice Chairperson Thomas Ellis Secretary David Hatfield Treasurer • - r • 01 /09/06 Planning Board Meeting Larry Sharpsteen, existing Secretary moved to cast one vote in favor of the slate of Officers announced . Lin Davidson seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis — Aye David Hatfield — Aye Brian Ivery — Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen — Aye MOTION CARRIED . Committees Viola Miller suggested that all Standing Committees be reviewed for possible change in the near future . Comprehensive Plan David Herrick will be at the working meeting on January 23 , 2006 to present the Transportation portion of the Comprehensive Plan that he has been working on. Nancy Loncto requested to know from the Board if they would be interested in an expedition around the South part of Town. It was the consensus of the Planning Board to decline . • Update/Sewer Route Mathew Besemer, Town Board Liaison advised the Board that Stephen Farkas, Town Supervisor and Mayor Hartill will be meeting with the D . O . T . in Syracuse on Thursday January 12 , 2006 to discuss the proposed Sewer route . The Village of Lansing would like to close down NYS route 34 for three (3 ) months . Richard Thaler, Whispering Pines Subdivison , Phase V- Final Platz Parcel # 40 .-3 -2 . 1 Ms . Loncto shared a letter she received from Richard Thaler requesting a Variance from the Planning Board with regards to late filing. Mr. Thaler' s Engineer under went medical surgery and Mr. Thaler was unable to obtain his final documents . The following is the timeline of events : Planning Board Final Approval — 8/22/05 John Anderson & Nancy Loncto Signature on Mylar — 11 /28/05 Lin Davidson made a motion to accept the Timeline as presented. Thomas Ellis seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis — Aye • David Hatfield — " Aye Brian Ivery — Aye V'.' . - % 01 /09/06 Planning Board Meeting • Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen — Aye MOTION CARRIED . Ordinance Richard Platt requested approval from the Planning Board to allow Attorney Guy Krogh to organize the Ordinance . It was the consensus of the Planning Board to go ahead and allow Mr. Krogh to take on that task. Incoming Planning Submittals Nancy Loncto and David Herrick feel that the Town is out of step when it comes to Planning Submittals . Mr. Herrick is requesting to have his paperwork in his office 10 days prior to the Wednesday before the meeting. Ms . Loncto requested that Mr. Platt return to the Board with an exact number of days that he would like to see the Ordinance/Subdivision changed to in the near future. Lin Davidson made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8 :40 PM. Brian Ivery seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Thomas Ellis — Aye • David Hatfield — Aye Brian Ivery — Aye Nancy Loncto - Aye Viola Miller — Aye Larry Sharpsteen - Aye MOTION CARRIED . Town of Lansing Planning Board Meeting January 09, 2006 Visitors Please Sign In Below : (Please Print) Name Address /r- Vis-//n, o/di/teit-e <<y/P Vv 1-t l -r- �.�y #v is vrtir , Z'�r ti4 �t/V / 4Y s o /Met 02 / Sic" �,� kJ , 1114 `t e if , A// /54S)J v Kivir. nok 41€-Ld- J6101 41 4I_AthAzitz anaf http : //www. lansingtown . corn/ • 1 - 9 - 06 ; 2 : 4SPM ; MILLER ENGINEERING ; 6072736322 # 2 / 3 ' i5 f"' EC �) Allen T. Fulkerson , L. S . T. G . i : I LLE R % P• C 3�� I David A . Herrick, P . E . Lee Dresser, L. S . Engineers and Surveyors Frank L. Santelli , P . E . Andrew J . Sciarabba, P . E . January 9 , 2006 Ms . Nancy Loncto, Chair Town of Lansing Planning Board Box 186 Lansing , NY 14882 Re: Holochuck Subdivision N . Triphammer Road Dear Ms . Loncto, We have reviewed the December 28, 2005 set of drawings (Sheet ST-1 through ST-6) and subsequent drawings ST- 1 and ST-4 received on January 4'h . With respect to stormwater management the proposed plan meets the intent of the stormwater ordinance. There are several construction related details that still remain and we request that they be resolved prior to issuance of any building, permits. Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan • A. Submit an updated NOI and SWPPP that reflects the proposed Town road layout. B . Post-Construction Stormwater Management: • The outlet of the retention swales ponds water to 4" below the top of embankment, requiring even very large storms to pass through the underdrain system . This is likely to create problems in the long term . As an alternative, consider using a staged outlet (e.g . , V-weir) to control storms greater than the 1 -year event, rather than allowing them to flow entirely through the soil and underdrain system ; • It appears on the site plan that some slopes adjacent to the proposed roadways are relatively steep (2: 1 slopes with a 6 foot drop at the entrance, and other areas on-site with 1 : 1 slopes and a 3 foot drop). Consider re-grading these areas to lessen the severity of the slopes . C . Erosion and Sediment Control : • Vegetative cover should be 85% to complete construction , rather than the 75% presented in plans . D . Long Term Maintenance : • The original SWPPP suggests that maintenance of the retention swales would be performed by individual lot owners . This is still acceptable; however, the Town should have the ability to access the land for emergency maintenance purposes . The site plan identifies easements for both swales but must clarify to whom they are granted . If the easements will be to the Town then the form and content of the legal description must be acceptable to the Town Attorney. • 203 North Aurora Street ■ P.O. Box 777 • Ithaca, New York 14851 ■ (607) 272-6477 1 - 9 - 06 ; 2 : 48PM ; MILLER ENGINEERING ; 6072736322 # 3 / 3 c. • Town Road Extension • E. Future Road Extension : • At the December 21 St Town Board meeting it was the consensus of the Board to require a right-of-way reservation from the proposed Town road to the lands of Stevens . This is reflected in the current site plan . I can recommend final approval of the proposed subdivision subject to a condition that requires resolution of Items A, C, D and E prior to issuance of any building permits . If you have any questions regarding this review feel free to contact me. Thank you . Sincerely, David A. Herrick, P . E. Cc: S . Farkas D . Platt J . French G . Krogh • • I 1 — 9 - 06 ; 2 : 48PM ; MILLER ENGINEERING ; 6072736322 # 1 / 3 s • T. G. MILLER PO \J a Allen Fulkerson, L.S. • Davidid A. Herrick , P. E. Lee Dresser, L.S. E' ngineers and Surveyors Frank L. Santelli, RE. Andrew J. Sciarabba, P.E. 203 North Aurora Street , Ithaca , New York. 14850 Website: www.tgmillerpc.com DATE : January 9, 2006 Number of Pages: 3 (including cover sheet) TO : Nancy Loncto, Chair FROM: David A. Herrick, P.E. Company: Town of Lansing T. G. Miller, P .C . Phone Number (607) 533-8819 Phone Number: (607) 272-6477 Fax Number: (607) 533 -3507 Fax Number: (607) 273 -6322 RE : Holochuck Subdivision N. Triphammer Road • REMARKS : Please see attached. Please Reply _ For your use X For review and comment 11# 11TOWN of LANSING "Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " ZONING, PLANNING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT c'te 1 Box 186 11111 Lansing, NY 14882 11 \ 11 II E-mail: tolcodesCQ3twcny. rr. com Town of Lansing Planning Board Meeting January 09 , 2006 7 : 15 PM Lansing Town Hall — Large Court Room http://www. lansingtown . com/ Agenda Time: Agenda Topics 7: 15 PM Holochuck, Matthew & Mark, Public Hear - Final • Approval of 4 Lot Subdivision, N. Triphammer Rd. Parcel # 41 .-1 -29.2 7:30 PM Approval of Minutes for: 1 . October 24, 2005 2. November 14, 2005 3. November 28, 2005 4. December 12, 2005 7:45 PM Stauffeneker, Kyle & Stacy, 1 Lot Subdivision - Buck Road, Parcel # P/O 28:1 -28.21 8:00 PM Babcock, Lillian, Site Plan Review - L1 District -New Cottage on existing footprint, Parcel # 33:1 -58 TOWN of LANSING A. e "Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " • G9. I i ZONING, PLANNING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT Box 186 ��`, Lansing, NY 14882 IE-mail: tolcodes@twcny. rr. com MEMO To : Planning Board / Zoning Board Members From : Rachel Jacobsen/Code Enforcement Office Date : January 4, 2006 • Re : Town of Lansing Education Policy * * * Just a Reminder* * * The Town of Lansing adopted a Continuing Education Policy requiring that all members attend a minimum of one training session or seminar per year. Please keep me posted of any "2006" training you undertake. Thank you. Rachel • • Memorandum To: Town of Lansing Planning Board Members CC: Matthew Besemer, Town Board Liaison From: Rachel Jacobsen Date: 1 /5/2006 Re : Planning Board Mailings --Members— Please be advised that as a result of reviewing the 2005 costs for mailing Planning Board Members the materials prior to the scheduled meetings, we have determined that a change is needed in an effort to find a more cost effective way of providing this information to you . We would like to offer the following options to you: 1. You may pick up your packet from The Code. Enforcement Office by the close of business on the • Wednesday prior to the meeting . 2. You may request that your packet be left in the front lobby (between doors) for pick-up by you at your convenience. 3. You may request that a packet be placed at the Planning Table for you to view 30 minutes prior to the start of the meeting. The material for the upcoming January 9, 2006 meeting will not be mailed out. Please contact me to make arrangements for pick-up. Please think about which option might work best for you , and let me know for future meetings. •