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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005-09-12 3 • Town of Lansing Monday, September 12 , 2005 7 : 15 PM PLANNING BOARD PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS (*Denotes present) * Nancy Loncto, Chairperson * Tom Ellis * Larry Sharpsteen Lin Davidson Viola Miller * David Hatfield * Gregg Travis * Brian Ivery (Alt.) * Bud Shattuck, Deputy Town Supervisor * Richard Platt, Zoning and Code Enforcement Officer Public Present George Frantz Barbara Hulbert John Uber Carol Uber James Hulbert Gerald Friedman • Kevin Jacobs Gary Wood Eric Griffith Bonny Griffith V. S. Anand Janice Ormsby Gary Ormsby Philip Erik Whitney Deborah Whitney G. Khanmohammadbeigi General Business/Public Comment : Nancy Loncto Chairperson called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 7 : 17 PM. Holochuck- Public Hearing, 4 Lot Subdivision, North Triphammer Road, Parcel # 41 -1 -29.2 Erik Whitney, P .E. appeared before the Planning Board to answer further questions in the absence of Timothy Buhl. David Herrick, P .E. for The Town of Lansing offered the following comments . Holochuck Subdivision • A Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan, Stormwater Management Design Summary and drawings amended September 5, 2005 were received on September 7th but could not be sufficiently reviewed prior to the mailing deadline. • • As recommended in my June 13`h letter legal agreements should be drafted and submitted as part of the preliminary plat submission to define the person(s) or entity responsible for perpetual r 09/12/05 Planning Board Meeting maintenance of the drive. Mr. Krogh should advise on the acceptability of this proposal and any • legal planning that will follow. We had the opportunity to review the Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan and Stormwater Management Design Summary and offer the following comments: Post-Construction Stormwater Management 1 . More detail is needed regarding the contributing watershed, as well as the diversion swales . These are likely fine, but we need to know that they can carry a specific design storm, and that the 2-year storm is non-erosive. 2 . The swales serving lots 3 and 4 don't seem to have enough fall to discharge to the diversion swale. Each swale needs at least 3 .2 ' of fall, and these only have about 1 ' or 1 .5 ' . 3 . The total volume provided in the swales is more than adequate, and it may be possible to get by with the two swales at the bottom, conveying flow to these along the roadway with a grassed swale. This approach however would require additional easements between the various land owners. Erosion and Sediment Control - The ESC Plan needs more detail on the following elements : 1 . Limits of disturbance. 2 . Method of stabilizing the diversion swale. It has a 5% percent slope and captures a significant upstream drainage. 3 . Need more detail about topsoil stockpiling. 4. The silt fence is capturing about 200 ' of upstream drainage but typically can't handle more than about 100 ' . 5 . Add a sequence of construction to the plan addressing road construction, installation of erosion and sediment controls and construction of permanent post-construction controls . • Nancy Loncto shared the above comments. Mr. Whitney indicated that he had not had a chance to discuss the comments with David Herrick prior to this meeting. Mr. Whitney offered the following comments; • The basic design concept with the swales is to take the total difference in run off between the pre-developed conditions and the post-developed conditions for the 100-year storm to be able to attenuate that post developed to the pre-developed condition. The system is sized to take all the storms . The upstream Watershed was not looked at as a swale was put in around the back side of the property as well as the north and south side. The ditch lines are sized to be equivalent to two small water courses which currently comes down through existing parcel. • In the detail for the swales it shows the swale bottom ramping up at half a percent over the ditch line, and the swale getting shallower. Mr. Whitney has requested that he be given the opportunity to address and discuss further concerns directly with David Herrick. Nancy Loncto encouraged Mr. Whitney to do that. Greg Travis inquired if a swale would be installed on the uphill side of the drives as well as some culverts crossing underneath the drive. Mr. Whitney indicated that he imagined there would be a minor ditch line that would go below the driveway. • Greg Travis stated that additional swale details or topography needs to be included in the drawings. • T 09/12/05 Planning Board Meeting • Public Comments/Planning Board Response : A gentleman inquired what the minimum lot size is for the R1 District. Richard Platt advised 40,000 square feet. The same gentleman inquired if the Planning Board could put stipulations as to where the home had to be placed on the lot. Greg Travis advised the public that the developer has met the Town of Lansing requirements for set backs. Thomas Ellis suggested that language be inserted in the Driveway Agreement that clearly indicates that the Town will incur zero cost to take over this private road if for some reason the agreement does not work between neighbors . Larry Sharpsteen agreed. John Uber inquired if there is a height restriction. Larry Sharpsteen advised Mr. Uber that the Town ' s height restriction is 35 ' to the high point. Kevin Jacobs, Contractor from Collegeview Homes states that all the lots will have a Single Family residence on them with as little disturbance to the natural area as possible. Thomas Ellis brought up previous concerns regarding emergency vehicles being able to enter/exit the Subdivision. It was the consensus of the Planning Board that Mr. Platt obtain comments from The Lansing Fire Department. • Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to close the Public Hearing at 7 : 42 PM. Thomas Ellis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Gholamreza Khanmohammadbeigi, Site Plan Review — Home Health Advisory Service, 2619North Triphammer Road, Parcel #44 .- 1 -30 Mr. Khanmohammadbeigi appeared before the Planning Board for Site Plan Review with respect to using his new residence as a main address for his Health Care Advisory Company. Customers such as world wide Medical Device Companies will use this address for mailing purposes only. There will be no product manufacturing on site. This location will be used exclusively for Advisory Services. There will be no employees . Larry Sharpsteen explained if there were needs for employees or customers that the location does have ample access, in addition parking would not be visible from the road. Larry Sharpsteen completed the SEQR. Thomas Ellis made a motion to declare a negative declaration. Gregg Travis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ormsby, Janice — Site Plan Review — Expansion of Parking Lot (Review Engineer ' s Report) • • 09/12/05 Planning Board Meeting • Gary Wood, P .E . for the Ormsby' s appeared before the Planning Board with a report and maps with respect to the Parking Lot expansion at the Ormsby Dental Office. David Herrick, P .E. for The Town of Lansing offered the following comments ; Ormsby - Site Plan Review • As I understand from Mr. Platt the operation of a commercial enterprise should have triggered site plan review for the parking lot modifications that had been constructed between July 28, 2004 and May 19, 2005 . The location of the site adjacent to NYS Route 34 presumably would have generated SEQR comments from NYSDOT and Tompkins County. Of interest would be slope stability adjacent to the highway and the reservation of land area for replacement septic system. In his letter of August 17, 2005 Mr. Wood has suggested some retaining measures to halt the sloughing of soil and to stabilize those soils already pushed to the south end of the lot. I agree that these measures should be implemented immediately and that additional, more permanent retaining walls may be necessary if the slope continues to be unstable and in any way threatens the highway. I recommend that the applicant document the extent of slope failure today with photos or topographic mapping with follow-up documentation in the spring and fall of 2006. Further, a copy of the Tompkins County Health Department septic system construction permit should be submitted to confirm that any replacement area for the on-site system has not been compromised by the added parking. Mr. Wood indicated that his concerns are the steep slopes, both uphill and down. The uphill side is rock controlled which Mr. Wood indicated is not as serious. Erosion control does not seem to be a serious problem. The Septic System that is located on the property is a 12 ' x 33 ' Sand Filter with a 80 ' • dispersion Trench leading out. Mr. Wood feels that there is plenty of room below for an additional Trench if needed. Mr. Wood suggested that the Ormsby' s install concrete barriers on the uphill side, as well as additional plantings . David Hatfield was concerned with the drainage of water down to the Railroad Tracks . Larry Sharpsteen shares the same concerns with David Herrick with regards to the run off Thomas Ellis stated for the record that he did not agree with this approval from the very beginning and does not feel this business should have been allowed to expand. Larry Sharpsteen requested that David Herrick review the runoff between the parking lot and the railroad track. Gary Wood will establish survey points on the slopes and monitor them over the winter. The following will occur: 1 . Concrete Barriers 2 . Plantings (Evergreens) 3 . Survey points 110 09/12/05 Planning Board Meeting • Bud Shattuck suggested that the Planning Board Members visit the site to view for themselves. Janice Ormsby gave verbal consent to the Members . Anand, Vilffamjit & Sweetie — Site Plan Review Dental Office, 1990 East Shore Drive, Parcel # 37.1-1-10 Mr. Anand appeared before the Planning Board for Site Plan Review. The Anand ' s have purchased a residential home that will be converted into a Dental Office in the B1 Commercial Mixed Use District. The Parking area will consist of 11 spaces. Approximately 5 -6 for employees and the remaining for patients. Lighting will consistent of, one ( 1 ) pole in the parking area and two (2) lights on the building aimed inward. There will be no narcotics drugs on site. Pre treatment medication such as Antibiotics and Tylenol will be the only ones . Larry Sharpsteen completed the SEQR. Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to declare a negative declaration. Thomas Ellis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Thomas Ellis made a motion to waive a Public Hearing and accept the Site Plan. Larry • Sharpsteen seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. John A. Stevens, Preliminary Plat — 4 Lot Major Subdivision, Warren Road, Parcel # 44.-1 -5 .32 George Frantz, agent for Mr. Stevens appeared before the Planning Board with An official signed Preliminary Plat Map and Stormwater/Erosion Control Plan of the proposed 4 Lot Subdivision. David Herrick offered the following: John Stevens - Preliminary Plat • Mr. Frantz has submitted a Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan that proposes individual lot management of increases in runoff from the developed sites. In concept this approach is acceptable. A detail of the grading and soil requirements for ` water gardens ' should be reviewed by Ms. Deb Caraco, P.E. in our office prior to the Town signing a final plat. Such language should be included in any preliminary plat approval. • At some point the Preliminary Plat needs to be signed and sealed by a Licensed Land Surveyor. George Frantz presented a drawing of the "water garden". Mr. Frantz further stated that the "water gardens" are large enough to keep the existing drainage and any additional stormwater runoff to the property. If engineered properly, there should be no standing • water left in them within 24 hours of the storm event. The septic systems will be located between the water gardens and the house. - 09/12/05 Planning Board Meeting • Bud Shattuck brought to the board' s attention that in the past, a septic system location has created problems with a water garden. Also, the existing standing water issue should be looked at closely. Further concerns of the Planning Board Members were if the water gardens would be large enough for the surface water. Mr. Frantz stated yes. Bud Shattuck indicated that with the Town' s new Stormwater plans, it is the Engineers or owners responsibility to see that the plans are followed until all lots are built out. George Frantz indicated deed covenants could be placed on the landowners to include wording for the contractors that state, they shall not fill in water gardens. In addition, an easement for the Town would be written in. Richard Platt will submit a 239 to the County Planning Department. George Frantz will meet with Deb Carco and review the Engineer' s comments prior to the Public Hearing. Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to set a Public Hearing for, Monday, October 24, 2005 @ 8 : 30 PM. Thomas Ellis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUYSLY. Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9 : 35 PM . Greg Travis seconded. VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. • • • Town of Lansing Planning Board Meeting September 12 , 2005 Visitors Please Sign In Below : (Please Print) Name Address Cara \ C " 1 J v-�j r telt 1 r n naiNa /►oarcA 5 ; ?PI dv . cil, \; Mme` F-nr-LaAr a . id ( 49 to ('-%'- , 'fat vi ; ,� � e C° c 4 1 ] ;* po,51r-S inct /60-gt kr-; / cif; Rtv ifte:tod • fl e (p \Li k`,41-"( G.{' ii7 409 ^/ 6r __`�` r " H- W -141 -ThiNif ( 1 / � ( �� A f A i� � p ��`:. /'/ A �,� � "/r�N� p . ,h ' 2; '�: AP1 v J J - > i 19 7 kV" P ClbC- � ` r �' Y` ' r/,atC L � 7 4 I 1,1/4_1 • 0 � �� �o tif 11r ° f Y J -7 c nci (11-€A di\ c'ur.. r � http : //www . lansingtown . com/ 30% , + aye •i RECD= ST:, Allen T . Fulkerson , L. S . David A . Herrick, P. E . L•- GIMILLE__WIRCLee Dresser, L. S . Frank L. Santelli , P. E . Engineers and Surveyors AndrewwJ . Sciarabba , P. E . September 7 , 2005 Ms . Nancy Loncto, Chair Town of Lansing Planning Board Box 186 Lansing , NY 14882 Re : September Meeting Agenda Dear Ms . Loncto , I 've reviewed the Planning Board Agenda Topics for the September 12th meeting and offer the following comments : Holochuck Subdivision • A Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan , Stormwater Management Design Summary and drawings amended September 5 , 2005 were received on September 7th but could not be sufficiently reviewed prior to the mailing deadline . • As recommended in my June 13th letter legal agreements should be drafted and submitted as part of the preliminary plat submission to define the person (s ) or entity responsible for perpetual maintenance of the drive . Mr. Krogh should advise on the acceptability of this proposal and any • legal planning that will follow. Gholamreza Khanmohammadbeigi Site Plan • No information was provided for review. Ormsby - Site Plan Review • As I understand from Mr. Platt the operation of a commercial enterprise should have triggered site plan review for the parking lot modifications that had been constructed between July 28 , 2004 and May 19 , 2005 . The location of the site adjacent to NYS Route 34 presumably would have generated SEQR comments from NYSDOT and Tompkins County. Of interest would be slope stability adjacent to the highway and the reservation of land area for replacement septic system . In his letter of August 17 , 2005 Mr. Wood has suggested some retaining measures to halt the sloughing of soil and to stabilize those soils already pushed to the south end of the lot. I agree that these measures should be implemented immediately and that additional , more permanent retaining walls may be necessary if the slope continues to be unstable and in any way threatens the highway. I recommend that the applicant document the extent of slope failure today with photos or topographic mapping with follow-up documentation in the spring and fall of 2006 . Further, a copy of the Tompkins County Health Department septic system construction permit should be submitted to confirm that any replacement area for the on-site system has not been compromised by the added parking . Anand , Sweetie - Site Plan Review • No information was provided for review. John Stevens - Preliminary Plat 203 North Aurora Street • P.O. Box 777 • Ithaca, New York 14851 • (607) 272-6477 4 . • 4. • Mr. Frantz has submitted a Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan that proposes individual lot • management of increases in runoff from the developed sites . In concept this approach is acceptable . A detail of the grading and soil requirements for 'water gardens' should be reviewed by Ms . Deb Caraco , P . E . in our office prior to the Town signing a .final plat. Such language should be included in any preliminary plat approval . • At some point the Preliminary Plat needs to be signed and sealed by a Licensed Land Surveyor. Feel free to contact me with any questions . Thank you . Sincerely, Dere_74_047067 ft David A. Herrick , P . E . Cc: S . Farkas D . Platt G . Krogh • • Allen T. Fulkerson , L. S . rLIGIIJVL[L:LE]IIP:Ci David A . Herrick, P. E . Lee Dresser, L. S . • Engineers and Surveyors Frank L. Santelli , P. E . Andrew J . Sciarabba , P. E . September 12 , 2005 Ms . Nancy Loncto , Chair Town of Lansing Planning Board Box 186 Lansing , NY 14882 Re : Holochuck Subdivision Dear Ms . Loncto , We had the opportunity to review the Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan and Stormwater Management Design Summary and offer the following comments : Post-Construction Stormwater Management 1 . More detail is needed regarding the contributing watershed , as well as the diversion swales . These are likely fine , but we need to know that they can carry a specific design storm , and that the 2-year storm is non-erosive . 2 . The swales serving lots 3 and 4 don 't seem to have enough fall to discharge to the diversion swale . Each swale needs at least 3 . 2' of fall , and these only have about 1 ' or 1 . 5' . 3 . The total volume provided in the swales is more than adequate , and it may be possible to get by with the two swales at the bottom , conveying flow to these along the roadway with a grassed swale . This approach however would require additional easements between the various land owners . • Erosion and Sediment Control - The ESC Plan needs more detail on the following elements : 1 . Limits of disturbance . 2 . Method of stabilizing the diversion swale . It has a 5% percent slope and captures a significant upstream drainage . 3 . Need more detail about topsoil stockpiling . 4 . The silt fence is capturing about 200' of upstream drainage but typically can 't handle more than about 100' . 5 . Add a sequence of construction to the plan addressing road construction , installation of erosion and sediment controls and construction of permanent post-construction controls . If you have any questions regarding this review feel free to contact Ms . Deb Caraco or me . Thank you . Sincerely, David A. Herrick , P. E . Cc : D . Platt • • • 203 North Aurora Street • P. O.O. Box 777 ■ Ithaca, New York 14851 • (607) 272-6477 9 - 12 - 05 ; 2 : 46PM ; MILLER ENGINEERING 072736322 # 1 / y ‘41.11- � ',bra "" e... "' • h Allen T. Fulkerson L. S . 1` ..titY.,'! y ..h.5.�. .'7 i[ 'h r':\\t: ® i :.(• n :P: iFy.`' David A. Herrick P. E. • Lee Dresser, L. S . Engineers and Surveyors Frank L. Santelli , P. E . Andrew J . Sciarabba, P. E . September 12 , 2005 Ms. Nancy Loncto, Chair Town of Lansing Planning Board Box 186 Lansing , NY 14882 Re : Holochuck Subdivision Dear Ms. Loncto , We had the opportunity to review the Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan and Stormwater Management Design Summary and offer the following comments: Post-Construction Stormwater Management 1 . More detail is needed regarding the contributing watershed , as well as the diversion swales . These are likely fine, but we need to know that they can carry a specific design storm , and that the 2-year storm is non-erosive . 2. The swales serving lots 3 and 4 don 't seem to have enough fall to discharge to the diversion swale. Each swale needs at least 3 .2' of fall , and these only have about 1 ' or 1 . 5' . 3 . The total volume provided in the swales is more than adequate, and it may be possible to get by with the two swales at the bottom , conveying flow to these along the roadway with a grassed swale. This • approach however would require additional easements between the various land owners . Erosion and Sediment Control - The ESC Plan needs more detail on the following elements: , 1 . Limits of disturbance . 2 . Method of stabilizing the diversion swale. It has a 5% percent slope and captures a significant upstream drainage. 3. Need more detail about topsoil stockpiling . 4 . The silt fence is capturing about 200' of upstream drainage but typically can't handle more than about 100' . 5 . Add a sequence of construction to the plan addressing road construction , installation of erosion and sediment controls and construction of permanent post-construction controls . If you have any questions regarding this review feel free to contact Ms . Deb Caraco or me. Thank you . Sincerely, .efre--142V David A. Herrick, P. E . Cc: D . Platt • 203 North Aurora Street • P.O. Box 777 a Ithaca, New York 14851 • (607) 272-6477 1i111 TOWN o LANSING Home of Industry, Agriculture and Scenic Beauty " � ZONING, PLANNING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT 1t op Box 186 `, ��� Lansing, NY 14882 ,l` � II E-mail: tolcodes@twcny. rr. com Town of Lansing Planning Board Meeting September 12 , 2005 7 : 15 PM Lansing Town Hall — Large Court Room http://www. lansingtown .com/ Agenda Time: Agenda Topics 7: 15 PM Any Other Business To Come Before The Board • 7:20 PM Holochuck, Public Hearing - Preliminary Plat, 4 Lot Subdivision, North Triphammer Road, Parcel # 41 .-1 -29.2 7:30 PM Gholamreza Khanmohammadbeigi, Site Plan Review - Home Health Advisory Service, 2619 North Triphammer Road, Parcel #44.-1 -30 7:45 PM Ormsby, Janice - Site Plan Review - Expansion of Parking Lot (Review Engineers Report) 8:00 PM Anand, Sweetie - Site Plan Review -Dental Office, 1990 East Shore Drive, Parcel # 37. 1 -1 -10 8: 15 PM Stevens, John - Preliminary Plat to include Stormwater Plan, 4 Lot Subdivision Warren Road, Parcel # 44.-1 -5.32 Page 1 of 1 • Tolcodes From : "Tolcodes" <Tolcodes@TWCNY. rr. com > To : "Thomas Ellis" <TMEIlis498@aol .com> ; "Steve White" <smwhite1952@yahoo .com> ; " Ronald Bricker" <rab4@cornell .edu> ; "Linda Hirvonen" <LAHirvonen@Warrenhomes . com> ; "Lin Davidson" <nldl @cornell .edu> ; "Larry Sharpsteen" < Larbear@Juno . com> ; "Gregg Travis" <GFT1 @cornell . edu > ; "David Dittman " <DAD19@cornell . edu > ; "Dan Konowalow" <danKonowalow@hotmail . com> Cc : "Tolcodes" <Tolcodes@TWCNY. rr. com> ; <njs6@is .cornell . edu > ; "Guy Krogh" <Gkrogh@ThalerandThaler.com> ; "Bud Shattuck" < bshattuck@tompkins-co .org> Sent: Wednesday, September 07 , 2005 12 :27 PM Subject: New York Planning Federation-Saratoga — Members— This years Planning Federation Conference will be held in Saratoga Springs NY , October 9- 12th . The deadline for early registration is approaching . If you have not received information directly from The Planning Federation , please visit the below web site for further information . http : //www . nypt. ofgl *Sharon Bowman will be willing to assist you with registration and hotel • accomendations once your forms have been completed . Thank you . Rachel • 9/7/2005